I have a CX9 and love it. It has been the most reliable vehicle out of the thirty vehicles we've owned in the household over the years. We've had an Audi, BMW's, MBZ's, Acura, Lincoln, Honda and a few Toyota's and the CX9 in my opinion has topped them all. I'm looking forward to the CX90.
We have a '22 CX5 and I don't mind the lack of touch screen. The controller does what I need it to do and you do get used to it. I agree that the 2.5 engine which I believe is at least similar in the CX-5 and the PHEV CX90 can be buzzy. Our CX5 handles way better than it should. I'm more interested in the CX70 but the CX90 looks nice and glad to hear it drives like a Mazda.
My #1 absolute favorite thing about my older CX-9 Signature was the ability to run Regular Unleaded gas with NO PENATLTY in torque rating (310 lb-ft of torque on either premuim OR regular). So now Mazda has totally impressed with the same option to the owner in the Turbo S... premium gets you 340hp, 369tq...Regular Unleaded gets you 319hp, 369tq. This is a HUGE PLUS for owners. The minus 20hp is ONLY going to become apparent above 100mph and you tell me how many people drive their 7pax SUV that way? Torque gets you up to 60mph...horsepower gets your from 80mph - 100mph. I will be smiling every time I fill up on Regular (for $1.20 LESS per gallon) in my new CX-90 Turbo S PP...ya hoo.
@@OtisSpringerpilot Exactly! I love that Mazda gives you the choice unlike other premium brands where it's "premium only". The fact that you can decide what fuel to use without potentially harming the engine is fantastic.
Fair and nice critique because she was so clear about the likes and dislikes that I could think about them for my own situation. Looking forward to test driving the phev
Fair criticism but as far as electric mode, I don't think this was intended to have a lot of power boost in ev mode. In the end its a plug-in so expectations have to be reasonable. I do think pressing hard on the pedal which then engages the gas is a fantastic way to do it. Instead of fiddling with buttons to disengage ev mode you just put your foot all the way down and all the power (gas and electric) is available immediately.
@@Quinton0520 just in hp and torque does that you mentioned dont come even close in horse power and torque and lets not talk about the suspension system.
I think the seat configuration can be discussed by the the dealership what the costumers suggest on the next iteration maybe. I also favor other comments that the 8 seater should be available on all engine configuration. Those 6/7 seater should just be an option to the upper trim.
Nah, I had a Kia that ran without issue for 145k miles on regular. No issue. One of my friends is a retired automotive engineer who drives Acuras and never puts in premium and has never had a problem.
My two biggest disappointments are that the number of seat options are only available on the lower trims, and that the PHEV doesn't have the top trim options of the S. I want more options if I pay more money, not less. I also think you should be able to pay for all the luxury offerings, such as ventilated back seats, on the PHEV. This car is still probably my top pick right now for SUVs in this segment.
Totally understand your concerns. I also ordered the CX-90 PHEV GT two weeks ago. The most disappointment I have is that the Cruising & Traffic Support is only available on the top 2 trims of the turbo s model. I have been using Lane Centering Assist for years with my Subaru, just cannot believe Mazda doesn't provide this feature as standard.
When you consider the price, luxury levels and performance, the CX-90 literally has no negatives. It destroys everything in the mainstream categories and will absolutely deserve to steal business from potential MDX customers as it’ll have similar performance and luxury for a lot less money.
Not really lol. Telluride is still king of delivering the luxury at the target price point. CX90 is nice but for a lot of families it’ll be too cramped
@@impaul41 no one compares a Telluride to MDX because they’re not even close. This new CX-90 destroys the Telluride in every category that matters and will give Volvo and Acura and run for the money in top level trim.
@@reecetbobby5347 it doesn’t destroy it in every category. The cX90 isn’t luxury labeled so it’s in the telluride market where things like cargo volume, passenger volume, price, and standard features matter. Where the telluride wins
@@impaul41 funny that pretty much every automotive journalist who has had a chance to drive the CX-90 says it’s now the gold standard and best in class. But what would they know….
The one area the press seems to attack is the lack of a touch screen on Mazda's. There is hard science to why they chose NOT to have a touch screen. Many studies have been done that show when a driver attempts to use the touch feature they tend to move out of their lanes and it can become a safety issue. Remember you drive where you look, so taking your eyes off the road to manipulate the screen can cause you to veer right. So in the interest of safety they decided to remove that feature. After using the wheel to make the adjustments you will see it becomes second nature and easy to move around and get to most of the things easily. Just takes a bit or practice sitting in the driveway to see how it works, and it works very well.
Agree on the wireless charger. I have a 22 Mazda CX5 Turbo and the wireless charger is junk! I just disabled it. My wife’s Cadillac CT4 wireless charger, zero issues. The phone can move around and still keep charging. Does not overheat.
It depends what family needs it. The pilot is 8 seater for there top trim convert to 7 seater and the one that I like is the S-AWD. But the Mazda is direct Japan made and Toyota is my favorite car manufacturer. 😊
I don't think I would look at the Turbo S model. For what this car does the standard HP and torque seem appreciate. The preferred plus seems to be the best price to value choice for me. And I prefer smaller wheels bigger tires (19 v 21") and the smaller moonroof on the preferred.
The Mazda PHEV can only travel 25 miles in EV mode and all versions get 25 mpg combined. So the PHEV only saves you one gallon of gas per charge and in my area it costs as much to charge that massive battery as 1 gallon of gas. $4,000 to carry around a 700lb battery that saves you no money......no thanks. The Mazda PHEV is the most inefficient PHEV sold today.
Went test driving 3 row SUV’s today. Started with Mazda CX90. Good drive, average third row but nice amenities in it, average pickup, excellent gas mileage, average road noise. May consider electric. Next Lincoln Aviator. Powerful, comfortable, third row is average, lots of amenities, like driving a boat, average gas mileage, average road noise (surprising). Buick Enclave was a good boring SUV. It had a good 3rd row. I laughed when the drive modes were normal and towing. No excite mode here. Somewhat good power. Clean? Lincoln and Buick is also available used and there haven’t been many changes going back to even 2019. Last vehicle we saw but were unable to drive was the Volkswagen Atlas. Simple interior. Very, very, very nice third row. Heard the engine is lackluster but will have to try it out.
Don't understand why you like seating configurations that Mazda offers? Mazda should offer way more options there. The fact that you can not get a three 3rd row seat in the 2 top trims is shameful.
1. Almost everyone uses the same charger-not a con. 2. A touchscreen is unsafe-not a con. 3. Hybrid EV's don't have boost because the motor is smaller-not a con. 4. Realtime traffic not correct? really?-not a con. 5. Of course you lose HP with different octanes-not a con.
@@akhere07 Everything. The powertrain, the chassis, the driving dynamics, the interior materials, you name it. The fact alone that it's a RWD platform puts it into the premium segment above a VW. Not to mention Mazda has a far superior reputation for reliability. A VW will literally start having problems the moment the warranty runs out.
@@sunnygirl9691Car Care Nut is horribly biased. What he comments on is only relevant if the vehicle isn’t reliable. Saying it handles badly and the doors don’t feel solid is a joke.
Scans your eyes? Like, as in biometric tracking and denial of service if you miss a mortgage(car) payment or if the government doesnt like a comment made on a particular youtube channel? No thanks!
@@DaveInCanada081this isn’t China. Where if you make complaints to their company, product, or their government. China forces you to make confessions, send you to labor camps, and the worst case scenario they harvest your organs while your alive. Japan and the U.S. doesn’t do that. I get security for your personal privacy moments are important, but these companies won’t come to your place and demand you for an apology. If this was China yes I would be concerned.
@@DaveInCanada081 when has the last time America stole anyone’s organs like the CCP did? I don’t hear Trump or Biden doing that when I have clearly expressed my opinions on both of them. Japan hasn’t done that either. If your so paranoid get inefficient gas cars from the 50s and 60s if that makes you feel much better.
The Mazda PHEV can only travel 25 miles in EV mode (that is what reviewers get not the EPA rating )and all versions get 25 mpg combined. So the PHEV only saves you one gallon of gas per charge and in my area it costs as much to charge that massive battery as 1 gallon of gas. $4,000 to carry around a 700lb battery that saves you no money......no thanks. The Mazda PHEV is the most inefficient PHEV sold today.
That's for more of the top trims and the average car price in the US in now $50K. A top end Yukon is pushing $100k. Compare the price to a BMX X5 or X7.
Well, suburban is roughly 70k and dont talk about yukon or... Denali. Its not the same range... Ppl who eat McDonald for dinner shouldn't even mind it, just buy your traverse and escape... Dont buy too much cx 90 so I can buy it 🤣
I will never buy any vehicle which deactivates the engine whenever I take my foot off the accelerator, when I'm coasting or at a full stop. It doesn't matter to me how quickly the engine can re-engage. The starter/generator is just another piece of electronics removing the driver from controlling his own vehicle, which will break and which will not be covered under warranty. I don't care how advanced this tech is. Just as I will never buy a vehicle with non-defeatable cylinder deactivation, this Mazda will never make my list of potential purchases. This includes the 2023-24 BMWs. I own a 2018 X3 M40i. It appears that this will be the last vehicle I will ever own, unfortunately. It seems only the Koreans are building fun vehicles which do not need interfering electronic equipment I didn't ask for, and don't want. I won't buy EVs either. I can't work on them in my garage. Most EV "mechanics" don't know how to work on them , either.
The Mazda PHEV can only travel 25 miles in EV mode and all versions get 25 mpg combined. So the PHEV only saves you one gallon of gas per charge and in my area it costs as much to charge that massive battery as 1 gallon of gas. $4,000 to carry around a 700lb battery that saves you no money......no thanks. The Mazda PHEV is the most inefficient PHEV sold today.
touch inputs are enabled with apple carplay/android auto, but a non-touch interface has nothing to do with whether or not a system is dated, especially when it’s an intentional thing. touch screens in cars are 💯 form over function anyway, considering they don’t really add much functionality.
I have a CX9 and love it. It has been the most reliable vehicle out of the thirty vehicles we've owned in the household over the years. We've had an Audi, BMW's, MBZ's, Acura, Lincoln, Honda and a few Toyota's and the CX9 in my opinion has topped them all. I'm looking forward to the CX90.
THIRTY CARS??!! Congratulations.
We have a '22 CX5 and I don't mind the lack of touch screen. The controller does what I need it to do and you do get used to it. I agree that the 2.5 engine which I believe is at least similar in the CX-5 and the PHEV CX90 can be buzzy. Our CX5 handles way better than it should. I'm more interested in the CX70 but the CX90 looks nice and glad to hear it drives like a Mazda.
The CX5 is a dated small uncomfortable hatchback.
@@m-cw7er i guess the competition is slacking when a dated small hatchback is given them a run for their money 🤷🏾♂️
the cx-70 is where i’d spend my money. i really have no use for a third row.
@@m-cw7er do you just troll people or do you sometimes have something constructive to say?
@@redracerproductions he's paid by Hyundai, probably.
Like: Mazda gives you the choice to fill with premium or regular. Cannot understand how that is a negative.
Losing horsepower. 🤷🏻♀️
@@jillciminillo that’s the trade off and it’s not a negative since it’s expected. For the average person the power loss isn’t a big deal.
My #1 absolute favorite thing about my older CX-9 Signature was the ability to run Regular Unleaded gas with NO PENATLTY in torque rating (310 lb-ft of torque on either premuim OR regular). So now Mazda has totally impressed with the same option to the owner in the Turbo S... premium gets you 340hp, 369tq...Regular Unleaded gets you 319hp, 369tq. This is a HUGE PLUS for owners. The minus 20hp is ONLY going to become apparent above 100mph and you tell me how many people drive their 7pax SUV that way? Torque gets you up to 60mph...horsepower gets your from 80mph - 100mph. I will be smiling every time I fill up on Regular (for $1.20 LESS per gallon) in my new CX-90 Turbo S PP...ya hoo.
@@OtisSpringerpilot Exactly! I love that Mazda gives you the choice unlike other premium brands where it's "premium only". The fact that you can decide what fuel to use without potentially harming the engine is fantastic.
Fair and nice critique because she was so clear about the likes and dislikes that I could think about them for my own situation. Looking forward to test driving the phev
Fair criticism but as far as electric mode, I don't think this was intended to have a lot of power boost in ev mode. In the end its a plug-in so expectations have to be reasonable.
I do think pressing hard on the pedal which then engages the gas is a fantastic way to do it.
Instead of fiddling with buttons to disengage ev mode you just put your foot all the way down and all the power (gas and electric) is available immediately.
There is no 3 rows suv driving like cx90 not highlander and not Pilot! Cx90 up against the luxury brands like BMW, Mercedes, Lexus, Acura….
Mazda is not luxury! The cx90 competes with pilot, palisade, telluride
@@Quinton0520 just in hp and torque does that you mentioned dont come even close in horse power and torque and lets not talk about the suspension system.
It's not quite as luxurious, but it's definitely nice and blows those others out of the water in reliability.
@@richardnguyen1520 HOW would you know? It’s a brand new car with a brand new engine.
Real buttons! Praise God for his mercy endureth forever.🖐
I think the seat configuration can be discussed by the the dealership what the costumers suggest on the next iteration maybe. I also favor other comments that the 8 seater should be available on all engine configuration. Those 6/7 seater should just be an option to the upper trim.
always always always use premium gas with a turbo engine, even if the manufacturer states you can use regular, still use premium.
Nah, I had a Kia that ran without issue for 145k miles on regular. No issue. One of my friends is a retired automotive engineer who drives Acuras and never puts in premium and has never had a problem.
Compression ratio is 12:1. It'd be a good idea to use premium fuel.
My two biggest disappointments are that the number of seat options are only available on the lower trims, and that the PHEV doesn't have the top trim options of the S.
I want more options if I pay more money, not less. I also think you should be able to pay for all the luxury offerings, such as ventilated back seats, on the PHEV.
This car is still probably my top pick right now for SUVs in this segment.
Totally understand your concerns. I also ordered the CX-90 PHEV GT two weeks ago. The most disappointment I have is that the Cruising & Traffic Support is only available on the top 2 trims of the turbo s model. I have been using Lane Centering Assist for years with my Subaru, just cannot believe Mazda doesn't provide this feature as standard.
When you consider the price, luxury levels and performance, the CX-90 literally has no negatives. It destroys everything in the mainstream categories and will absolutely deserve to steal business from potential MDX customers as it’ll have similar performance and luxury for a lot less money.
Not really lol. Telluride is still king of delivering the luxury at the target price point. CX90 is nice but for a lot of families it’ll be too cramped
@@impaul41 no one compares a Telluride to MDX because they’re not even close. This new CX-90 destroys the Telluride in every category that matters and will give Volvo and Acura and run for the money in top level trim.
@@reecetbobby5347 okay jan
@@reecetbobby5347 it doesn’t destroy it in every category. The cX90 isn’t luxury labeled so it’s in the telluride market where things like cargo volume, passenger volume, price, and standard features matter. Where the telluride wins
@@impaul41 funny that pretty much every automotive journalist who has had a chance to drive the CX-90 says it’s now the gold standard and best in class. But what would they know….
The issue with mazda infotainment screens is the screen is too short. Everything from maps but especially camera views need a taller screen.
The one area the press seems to attack is the lack of a touch screen on Mazda's. There is hard science to why they chose NOT to have a touch screen. Many studies have been done that show when a driver attempts to use the touch feature they tend to move out of their lanes and it can become a safety issue. Remember you drive where you look, so taking your eyes off the road to manipulate the screen can cause you to veer right. So in the interest of safety they decided to remove that feature. After using the wheel to make the adjustments you will see it becomes second nature and easy to move around and get to most of the things easily. Just takes a bit or practice sitting in the driveway to see how it works, and it works very well.
I’m waiting for the Mazda cx70 👍
thanks for the review . nice review .
Agree on the wireless charger. I have a 22 Mazda CX5 Turbo and the wireless charger is junk! I just disabled it. My wife’s Cadillac CT4 wireless charger, zero issues. The phone can move around and still keep charging. Does not overheat.
It is a touch screen. There is a menu setting that enables it.
Only for car play usage
@@EscapeFPsNo, you can dig into the menu and enable touch.
@@JackSmith-qi7dr That's what I heard also.
I asked Mazda directly. It’s only a touch screen for Auto & CarPlay
@@jillciminillo I sold Mazdas for 6 months I know
This cx90 compare with luxury brands. The highlander and Pilot below cx90. I will take cx90 over highlander and Pilot everyday!
It depends what family needs it. The pilot is 8 seater for there top trim convert to 7 seater and the one that I like is the S-AWD. But the Mazda is direct Japan made and Toyota is my favorite car manufacturer. 😊
No it doesnt mazda is not luxury! They don’t even have luxury sound system like Mercedes or Volvo
Don't forget Acura MDX...
I don't think I would look at the Turbo S model. For what this car does the standard HP and torque seem appreciate. The preferred plus seems to be the best price to value choice for me. And I prefer smaller wheels bigger tires (19 v 21") and the smaller moonroof on the preferred.
i'm leaning PHEV but now, hmm now wanting the MHEV :)
The Mazda PHEV can only travel 25 miles in EV mode and all versions get 25 mpg combined. So the PHEV only saves you one gallon of gas per charge and in my area it costs as much to charge that massive battery as 1 gallon of gas. $4,000 to carry around a 700lb battery that saves you no money......no thanks. The Mazda PHEV is the most inefficient PHEV sold today.
First time viewer. Great job!!
Went test driving 3 row SUV’s today. Started with Mazda CX90. Good drive, average third row but nice amenities in it, average pickup, excellent gas mileage, average road noise. May consider electric. Next Lincoln Aviator. Powerful, comfortable, third row is average, lots of amenities, like driving a boat, average gas mileage, average road noise (surprising). Buick Enclave was a good boring SUV. It had a good 3rd row. I laughed when the drive modes were normal and towing. No excite mode here. Somewhat good power. Clean? Lincoln and Buick is also available used and there haven’t been many changes going back to even 2019. Last vehicle we saw but were unable to drive was the Volkswagen Atlas. Simple interior. Very, very, very nice third row. Heard the engine is lackluster but will have to try it out.
so your research you cant do bench on PHEV
Id like to see that inline 6 in a CX5
For the EV mode section, you should understand where the motor is placed first.
Don't understand why you like seating configurations that Mazda offers? Mazda should offer way more options there. The fact that you can not get a three 3rd row seat in the 2 top trims is shameful.
This is the 3rd youtube on this car this morning - all are good advertisements!!!
Only 3rd.. i have seen already more than 10
if we need a second row bench seat.. .we have to choose lower trims with not a lot of luxury tech...that's stupid IMO...
Genesis GV80 has an actual cooler that keeps ya phone cool while charging. But that’s also $15k more than this roughly
1. Almost everyone uses the same charger-not a con. 2. A touchscreen is unsafe-not a con. 3. Hybrid EV's don't have boost because the motor is smaller-not a con. 4. Realtime traffic not correct? really?-not a con. 5. Of course you lose HP with different octanes-not a con.
You are the best.
Just love the way Jill puts it out there. Plain and simple, likes dislikes. Great job, Jill
Thank you!
Keep going, you are doing much better than Sofian and Raitis!
❤
How is this vs 2023 VW Atlas?
You can’t put the CX-90 in the same league with that unreliable garbage called Atlas.
Haven’t driven it yet, but CX-90 has a lot nicer finishing touches
Absolutely demolishes the Atlas in every way. They're not even close.
@@reecetbobby5347 wow really.. like what main features are better than atlas?
@@akhere07 Everything. The powertrain, the chassis, the driving dynamics, the interior materials, you name it. The fact alone that it's a RWD platform puts it into the premium segment above a VW. Not to mention Mazda has a far superior reputation for reliability. A VW will literally start having problems the moment the warranty runs out.
Love your reviews...😍
Love to see all the negatives,. I love the fact that u r giving all facts,. Good video
P-HEV is correct
Design is the main issue. The rear end looks like a minivan. I prefer the looks of a Cx-9. Also $61k for this?
Still missing a reviewer that's going to review the overall of the vehicle including putting it up on the lift.
That’s going to be a long while until that review comes out.
Car Care Nut has a more thorough dissection of this car.
@@sunnygirl9691Car Care Nut is horribly biased. What he comments on is only relevant if the vehicle isn’t reliable.
Saying it handles badly and the doors don’t feel solid is a joke.
My Hyundai Tucson wireless charger works flawlessly even with a case on. I have a samsung if that matters.
It’s doesn’t seem like a bad buy. I think the lack of a Touchscreen is going to cost them buyers.
If it’s going to cost buyers like you, then I don’t think Mazda caters to knuckleheads like you that thinks a car is all about touchscreens.
The touchscreen only works when you’re using Apple CarPlay for some odd reason, I don’t know why but Raiti’s Rides showed that.
Well, You are not supposed to reach over the touchscreen while driving. You can use it at a stop which is fair for me
I take this Mazda over highlander and Pilot!
never needed the touchscreen when driving ... best and safest methode for all functions....
Scans your eyes? Like, as in biometric tracking and denial of service if you miss a mortgage(car) payment or if the government doesnt like a comment made on a particular youtube channel? No thanks!
Scans eye placement… like a lot of cars do for driver attention notifications
@@jillciminillo and for positively identifying the driver for tracking purposes.
@@DaveInCanada081this isn’t China. Where if you make complaints to their company, product, or their government. China forces you to make confessions, send you to labor camps, and the worst case scenario they harvest your organs while your alive. Japan and the U.S. doesn’t do that. I get security for your personal privacy moments are important, but these companies won’t come to your place and demand you for an apology. If this was China yes I would be concerned.
@@toshitanaka1550 we shall see, eh?
@@DaveInCanada081 when has the last time America stole anyone’s organs like the CCP did? I don’t hear Trump or Biden doing that when I have clearly expressed my opinions on both of them. Japan hasn’t done that either. If your so paranoid get inefficient gas cars from the 50s and 60s if that makes you feel much better.
The Mazda PHEV can only travel 25 miles in EV mode (that is what reviewers get not the EPA rating )and all versions get 25 mpg combined. So the PHEV only saves you one gallon of gas per charge and in my area it costs as much to charge that massive battery as 1 gallon of gas. $4,000 to carry around a 700lb battery that saves you no money......no thanks. The Mazda PHEV is the most inefficient PHEV sold today.
Wow, $60k is getting up there! Many families would opt for a Yukon/Suburban for a little more cash…
I mean it starts at $40k USD, I’d go for the third trim up from base, anything above at least $55k is absurd for a Mazda imo.
That's for more of the top trims and the average car price in the US in now $50K. A top end Yukon is pushing $100k. Compare the price to a BMX X5 or X7.
Better add 40k more for one of those.
Well, suburban is roughly 70k and dont talk about yukon or... Denali. Its not the same range... Ppl who eat McDonald for dinner shouldn't even mind it, just buy your traverse and escape... Dont buy too much cx 90 so I can buy it 🤣
Not for a Madza. I’d rather have a Lexus.
Why do you spit out so much!!! 😂
You must be tiny
I will never buy any vehicle which deactivates the engine whenever I take my foot off the accelerator, when I'm coasting or at a full stop. It doesn't matter to me how quickly the engine can re-engage. The starter/generator is just another piece of electronics removing the driver from controlling his own vehicle, which will break and which will not be covered under warranty. I don't care how advanced this tech is. Just as I will never buy a vehicle with non-defeatable cylinder deactivation, this Mazda will never make my list of potential purchases. This includes the 2023-24 BMWs. I own a 2018 X3 M40i. It appears that this will be the last vehicle I will ever own, unfortunately. It seems only the Koreans are building fun vehicles which do not need interfering electronic equipment I didn't ask for, and don't want. I won't buy EVs either. I can't work on them in my garage. Most EV "mechanics" don't know how to work on them , either.
The Mazda PHEV can only travel 25 miles in EV mode and all versions get 25 mpg combined. So the PHEV only saves you one gallon of gas per charge and in my area it costs as much to charge that massive battery as 1 gallon of gas. $4,000 to carry around a 700lb battery that saves you no money......no thanks. The Mazda PHEV is the most inefficient PHEV sold today.
No way am I spending 60k on a Madza. If I’m paying 60k I’ll get a true luxury SUV like Lexus. No touch screen. Dated.
touch inputs are enabled with apple carplay/android auto, but a non-touch interface has nothing to do with whether or not a system is dated, especially when it’s an intentional thing. touch screens in cars are 💯 form over function anyway, considering they don’t really add much functionality.
Lexus luxury 😂
It starts at $40k
Ah yes, Toyota luxury.
@@kurtgrundel4045 which Madza will never be
Ditch the electric engine garbage
The touchscreen only for cheap and low brands not luxury brands cx90 above level of highlander and Pilot. I don’t think this car for guys like you!