Canon EOS M50 Mark II Webcam Utility versus Elgato Cam Link 4K Comparison
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- Опубликовано: 1 авг 2024
- I wanted to create a video that compares the quality of the EOS M50 Mark II using both an Elgato Cam Link 4K capture card and the free Canon EOS Webcam Utility software that connects over USB.
Canon EOS Webcam Utility Software :
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Elgato Cam Link 4K:
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Canon M50 Mark II:
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Canon EOS M50 Mark II + Elgato Cam Link 4K: (0:00)
Canon EOS M50 Mark II + USB Webcam Utility software: (1:33)
Surface Laptop 3 Built in Camera: (2:17)
Canon EOS M50 Mark II + Elgato Cam Link 4K: (2:40) 
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Great short video. answered the exact question I had about setting up my new M50 mk2
Glad you found it helpful!
This video was so incredibly helpful, Steve! Exactly what I needed to see. Thank you! 👍😁
Glad you found it helpful!
Good info, straight to the point useable side by side comparison. Thanks.
Thank you. Glad you enjoyed it!
Very interesting difference. The biggest change was certainly the lag in the audio vs video once you switched to the Webcam utility. Thanks so much for sharing, I was looking at the M50 as it seemed a cleaner set-up than others (using the webcam utility) but this is a significant eye opener.
Glad this was helpful! If you are only doing live streaming the difference is probably not as noticeable. If you are planning on doing recordings to post to RUclips like this it’s a pretty big difference.
Thank you. Very interesting video.
Thank you.
Ok this is exactly the video I needed to see! I just got the m50 mark 2 with the Elgato cam link 4k and the sigma 16mm lens. And I’ve been confused why one should use the capture card over the webcam utility but now it all makes sense - the quality!
If you check out my most recent videos you can see the quality with the same sigma 16 mm lens you got. I’m using the Elgato cam link 4K. This video I only used the stock kit lens and didn’t have any lighting setup.
@@SteveWinward awesome! I’ll check it out! Do you have any reccos for live streaming settings with the m50 mark 2 + the sigma 16mm lens?
I don't have anything specific to live streaming. I've used mine primarily for Teams calls/live events and various other meeting software (Zoom, Google, etc). The biggest quality gain I got was when I setup proper lighting. I got two Elgato Air Lights and then I use the Canon EOS Utility software with a white balance card to correct the color. After doing that, the quality was significantly better.
Gracias
Glad you enjoyed it.
So after 30min of streaming the video feed cuts off until I hit the button to take a picture and the feed comes back. I have both the hdmi and usb connect at the same time with utility open and cam link running in OBS. Any idea on how to make sure in 30min the feed doesn’t turn off? This is the max in the setting as well no way I’ve really seen to turn it off. Any ideas? Thanks
Thank you for making this video. I'm also new to photography and don't feel the need to hate on the Mark II. I picked up the BlueAVS sub $20 dollar one and would like to see how it stacks up. Also, what lights are you using?
I’m using two Elgato Key Light Airs for my current setup. This particular video I didn’t have any lighting setup. If you watch any of my recent videos you can see the improvement the lighting makes.
Good comparison. I have a question though, how did you eliminate the eye tracking image from the clean hdmi output?
Because the M50 Mark II has clean HDMI it removes all of the eye tracking and focus information from the video image. The previous model, the original M50 did not have this feature and you needed to use software like Sparkocam to remove the eye tracking.
Great video - exactly what I was looking for! I decided to go with the same set up at home with the Elgato Cam Link 4K capture card and am also newish to the M50 Mark II. I have found that I have to keep the camera on manual focus to avoid the white box (for autofocus) being displayed on zoom et al meetings. Have you found a way around this, or are you also leaving it on manual focus?
Hey Jenna. A couple of things you should try.
First without the camera connected to your laptop, change the video settings to Clean HDMI out. You can set this to 1080p 60 fps or 4K 30fps. Under the menu its on page 9 under HDMI info disp.
Once you do this, the video feed from Elgato should have none of the information settings from the camera. Also when I use my setup I have both the micro HDMI connected to the elgato as well as the USB.
@@SteveWinward Perfect - and so easy! Thanks a million.
I need help with what you guys recommend me to fix my Canon EOS M50 or Shall I buy Elgato Web cam because I heard there is webcam like Logitech can remove background without using chroma key. but I want very clear because I want to use to stream for gaming 🙏
Nice :) Could you tell me what cables will i need to connect the Canon EOS M50 ii to Elgato HD60 + to my pc. Do I need to plug the HDMI cable in the back of my graphics card HDMI port? And if you dont use the Utility setup by Canon, but use the dummy battery can the Auto shut off be turned OFF on the Cameras own menu? Or do we need the Utility? Thank you
You need to use a micro hdmi to hdmi to connect the camera to your Elgato capture card. You also need to connect your camera to your computer with a USB Micro-B cable to enable it to work with the canon utility software.
Thanks for this video. I'm thinking of upgrading to the M50 Mk II from my 100D (no clean HDMI out so I have to use Webcam Utility) but I just wondered if you could confirm before I buy:
1) Does the M50 Mk II provide clean HDMI out with the autofocus still on? I've seen conflicting things online about this and some say it has to be in manual focus to get the focus box to disappear.
2) Can you use the M50 for an unlimited time without it shutting off? I've seen some people saying you can only use it for 30 mins before it shuts off and the only work around is to have it plugged in via USB with EOS Utility running in the background.
Thanks in advance
Yes to both. The M50 Mark II allows you to output clean HDMI. If you install the EOS utility on your computer you can use the usb connection to allow the camera to run as long as you need to. I have a dummy battery to keep the camera powered on, but I have had meetings for several hours with my setup and never had an issue.
Thank you for this video! I have a Canon M50, Camlink and a Macbook Air. You mentioned in another comment to use Sparkocam with the older model of the M50 that I have but Sparkocam is not compatible with Mac. Do you know of alternative that would work just as good as Sparkocam? Or will I just have to switch to using the Canon EOS Webcam Utility now that they work with Mac. I wish the M50 older version came with clean HDMI :(
I am live streaming for Facebook Lives and recording video to upload to my Facebook and LinkedIn pages.
Great question, I'm not as familiar with using the camera with a Mac OS. However, I do know that the Canon M50 Mark II does provide the clean HDMI out. I believe I've seen some videos of folks trying to eliminate the on screen information by putting the camera into manual autofocus etc., but I think those are also really finicky solutions.
Hi, may I ask if you managed to get pass the 30min limit using the camlink? Would I require to open up Eos utility 3 In order to "force" the camera to not sleep after 30mins of recording?
Yes. I have the usb cable connected from the camera to my laptop. Whenever I turn my camera on the EOS utility app automatically launches on my PC. My understanding is that this is what tells the camera to bypass the 30 min limit.
In addition to the usb cable I also have a hdmi cable connected to the capture card. I also have a dummy battery plugged into the camera.
I’ve used this setup for work over the last few months and it’s worked out great!
Usb 2.0 transfers only 480 mbps so it can only do 576p and 30fps with the webcam utility. The camlink uses the hdmi which is much faster so you get 1080p and 60 fps. I had to learn this the hard way. My question is, are you using sparkocam to remove the display? Or are you getting clean hdmi with the capture card? I have the m50 and If I want clean hdmi with the camlink, I have to use sparkocam to get clean hdmi
No, so this was with the Canon EOS M50 Mark II which introduced the ability to output clean HDMI. So I can get clean output without using sparkocam and record directly with OBS. This was actually one of my first every RUclips videos and I have learned a lot since then. I used zero lighting in this video and it makes a huge difference if you see any of my more recent tech videos.
also voice was so out of sync with the usb.. so clearly the cam link fixes this. and thats all i needed to know :)
Glad you found this video helpful.
I have mark ii m50 and i use it for livestream via obs with eos utility - usb connection and dummer battery. If i buy camlink will i have better quality and better performance or its the same? And what you suggest me ? Camlink or elgato capture card hd60s?
Yes, using a capture card will give you much higher video resolution. The EOS USB method limits you to around 720p. With an Elgato capture card you can stream to 1080p. I haven't used the HD60S, but I have been really happy with the Elgato Camlink 4K.
Good comparison. Curious on the quality of the Elgato Cam Link 4K vs a cheap capture card with the same camera. Is the higher cost justified?
That's a great question. If I decide to get a cheap alternative capture card I will make another video and share the results!
@@SteveWinward Yea, the Elgato looks great... but that's also another $100+ bucks.
@@VastOceanCommuter I just published a video comparing a $30 capture card to the Elgato Cam Link 4k. Let me know what you think!
ruclips.net/video/n8RBlm-0ZcU/видео.html
Can you use the camera screen while connected to HDMI as well?
Yes you can. I have it turned towards me so I can see myself when recording. One thing I have noticed is that the screen itself sometimes will turn off when using the Elgato cam link. It doesn’t affect the recording but it feels like after about 30 min or so it will turn off. I have run Teams meetings for hours an never had an issue with the video feed itself stopping.
Hey Steve. Firstly. Thank you so much for the video.
Bought the Canon EOS M50 Mark II (along with a Camlink) off this video and ran into trouble.
As soon as I plug in the micro HDMI to HDMI cable into the Camlink my Canon goes back and getting no output...
Off Camlink's website:
• Disable Eco Mode in settings.
• Disable Auto Power Off in settings.
• Disable Auto-Focus
I've done all three. Only possible option is I read in a comment that when you had the Camlink in a docking station you had similar problems...
So perhaps I need to go directly into my Mac. Wondering if you had any ideas.
One question I have - When you connect the camera to the Camlink (without being connected to your mac) does the camera screen turn off straight away?
Mine currently does. Which makes me think it's not a docking problem but a camlink to canon problem.
Any help massively appreciated.
Hey Harry. Sorry you are dealing with issues. You want to make sure you set your camera to movie mode on the dial. Also make sure that you set the HDMI out settings to clean HDMI.
Do you have an expierience how long thhe cam is usable in an MS Teams session? Is it possible to strem i.e. for 2 hours without interruption? Or did the cam overheat an shut down?
I’ve gone hours and never had an issue with the camera overheating or shutting down. I’ve been using this setup for a few months now and still loving the setup.
I just bought the EOS M50 and want to use it to stream Buddhist teachings over Zoom. Do I need to download and update the Canon EOS Utility to use a capture card? I already downloaded and used the Webcam Utility but didn't like the latency. Will I get better results with the Canon M50 Mark ll?
You don’t need to update the EOS Utility software. You need to get a mini HDMI to HDMI cable and connect that from your camera to the capture card. Then you can use the capture cards video as input into your laptop. Note that if you use the M50 and not the M50 Mark II you do not get clean HDMI out which means you need to use something to remove the display information from the output. SparkoCam is software that can do that for you.
I just recently purchased the m50 mark ii and have been struggling to be able to connect using the canon usb webcam utility software. With this elgato cam link, will i still need to have the canon software downloaded to my laptop or once I connect the hdmi to the capture card to the laptop, then it should connect on its own?
The setup I run on Windows 10 is this. I have the camera connected with a micro usb to my laptop. I also have the EOS Utility software installed and this is what keeps the camera running for more than 30 minutes. I also have a micro HDMI to HDMI connected to the capture card. The EOS utility software also lets you configure things like the focus, the white balance, etc.
@@SteveWinward ahh okay perfect! Is there any specific settings I need the camera in? When I connect mine to my laptop it always shows a big red x that’s say eos webcam utility so I am not sure what I am doing wrong
The camera itself needs to be on movie mode and turned on. You also need to configure it to have clean HDMI output enabled. You can do that through the settings on the camera itself.
Hello, do you know how to make it so that the camera does not turn off when the battery runs out? some kind of compatible adapter
have you been able to record for several hours?
Yes. You need to install the Canon EOS Utility software and connect your camera over USB to your computer. Once you do that, the camera will stay on as long as you need. I have done several hours of web calls and never had an issue. You also need a dummy battery so that you can keep it powered on. Here's the dummy battery I use with my setup: amzn.to/3oq69IH
Hi Steve, nice video buddy. I just have a question, when you connect using the HDMI does the screen goes off after a certain time or you can turn that option off to not going off if that makes sense. The reason I am asking is because I just got the Mark1 and the problem is that, of course, is not clean HDMI and second after 30 minutes maximum the screen goes off, the camera can stay on for a long period of time but when is about the screen, there is the problem. I don't want to be streaming and after 30 minutes no one will see me at all aha. Would you answer that to me, please? Thank you
When using the Elgato Camlink 4K the video feed never stops. I’ve had Microsoft Teams meetings for several hours and never had any issues with the video turning off. The only thing that does happen and I’m not sure if there is a setting is that the video feed on the cameras screen does turn off around 30 minutes after being on. This does not affect the video feed sent to the computer though.
Hope this helps!
@@SteveWinward thanks for the quick reply, I really appreciate it. For sure it answers my question because unfortunately with Mark 1 when the video on the camera screen turns off, it completely freezes the video and that was the problem. So I believe the Mark 2 not just changed to have the HMDI clean output but as well to not turn off when the screen goes off. I have the Elgato Cam Link, which is what I have been using for a while already to record my videos and livestream. Thank you once again and good luck with your channel :), you deserve more subscribers for sure.
I should have mentioned. I think the key to the camera not turning off is I also have the EOS Utility software installed and the usb connected to your lap tip. So anytime I turn my camera on the EOS Utility automatically launches and I believe that is what disables the camera from turning off.
@@SteveWinward oh thank you Steve, great, I was trying what you said and didn’t went off at all, perfect. That was a big help. Much appreciated once again
Hi Steve, thank you for the video - super informative and I also got the very same setup after i’v watched it. The only thing I now can’t overcome is that when i plug in micro HDMI into the camera, there is no enough room for USB to be plugged into the camera as well - is there a specific usb cable that you use that is a little slimmer than generally? I was trying to find such USB but couldn’t find it, neither I found a slimmer microHDMI, as they all look to be square-ish at the point of connection and thus, block the usb to be plugged. Anyway, thank you again for a detailed video!
hey steve, for some reason during recordings with my elgato cam link to my canon mark II webcam, i will continuously lose signal between the two and im not sure why. Any thoughts?
That’s really odd. Does the video feed cut out when that happens? What kind of cable are you using to connect the camera to the Elgato? Also, are you using a dummy battery? I did have some weird issues when I had the Elgato connected to a usb hub off of my docking station. I switched to have the Elgato plugged directly to my laptop and didn’t have any issues after that.
@@SteveWinward i just fixed it, i had to turn off eco mode , apparently it messed up the signal somehow, i appreciate the help tho
Good to know. Thanks for sharing your solution so others might be able to benefit from it too!
Are you using an extremal mic for the audio with your canon m50? I am debating about getting this same camera. And what is the most noticable difference for me is how much of a delay there is in the audio with the usb free utility. That makes it almost worse then the cam that comes stock on your surface. Did you have it plugged into the usb 3.0 port? Not sure if that makes a difference with that utility.
So I’m using a Surface Laptop 3. And I have a Surface Dock that I plug the usb into. I have tried plugging the usb directly into the USB 3.0 port on the laptop itself and I get the same result. I have not tried different usb cables but the capture card to the same laptop USB port is so much better.
Forgot to answer your question about the mic. Yea I’m using a Blue Yeti X USB microphone to record the audio. I don’t get the audio lag when I use the capture card. I really think the issue is the frame rate of the webcam software is slow because it can only go up to USB 2.0.
@@SteveWinward aww that makes a lot of sense. And i kind of figured as much. I had seen others saying to get the old canon m50 instead of the mark ii but i feel the clean hdmi is a huge difference if you intend on making videos, live streaming and zoom calls. Thanks a lot fof the fast reply!
@@misterliquidcity I would not have gotten this camera if it didn't have clean HDMI out!
@@SteveWinward well some people have videos on just using the eos software with a usb cable and said there are no noticable differences. But you can clearly see the delay in the audio. And you can only stream 526 p.
does the new mark 2 has a CLEAN HDMI out WITH AUDIO included?
Yes you get both the audio and the visual. In this case I am using a separate microphone over USB for the video so I just muted the audio from the camera with OBS to record this.
@@SteveWinward nice :-D and does the mark 2 turns off after 30 minutes while you using the hdmi out for streaming? because this happened to the m50 1
@@siskoDE yes, it will not turn off after 30 minutes as long as you connect the camera with the micro USB to your laptop and have the EOS Utility software installed on your computer. On my PC once I turn my camera on, the EOS Utility software launches automatically. I have done meetings over Teams that go for hours and never had it turn off on me.
@@SteveWinward so you are using it over hdmi out to the capture card?
@@siskoDE correct. I have both the micro usb and the hdmi connected to the camera. The video is captured with an elgato capture card from the hdmi output of the camera.
i have 2 ports in m50 mark ii . hdmi and one more. what we use for livestream in obs?
You have two options. If you have a capture card like an Elgato, you can go mini hdmi from the camera to the capture card to your laptop. If you don’t have a capture card you will have to use the Canon EOS Webcam Utility software and connect with the micro USB port to your laptop. Hope this helps.
@@SteveWinward Yeah but utility software take a lot cpu usage cause need to run in background. I thought that mark ii with clean hdmi means no third party and just connect the camera and automatically recognise it as webcamera....
Clean HDMI means you don’t see any of the camera settings in the HDMI output. You still need a capture card to convert the HDMI signal to your laptop to use it as a video feed.
@@SteveWinward ok thanx very much!!!!
@@SteveWinward Ty i found a canon webcam utility that no need capturecard and work perfect via usb only andwithout any programm run. What about this? You have any idea?
1:32 switch from capture card to EOS utility
Thank you, I just updated my video description to include the specific times that I use the different video configurations.
I think M50 MkII only has USB 2.0 while Cam Link 4k uses USB 3.0. So Cam Link looks far better and with almost no lag between audio and video
Yea you are right. I just didn't realize how big of a difference the quality of the video would be until I watched it side by side.