I bought a Bosch. It ran good for about 3 years. But around the 3 year mark it started having LOTS of problems. After multiple service visits, the technician wrote it off as unfixable. I have found that Bosch is not that good. Not buying Bosch again.
Thanks, this confirmed my decsion to go with a Bosch. Question: Is the door popping open for the dry cycle a problem for wood butcher block countertops?
The butcher block should be sealed. And to maintain it, you need to keep up on the seal every so often. I would just touch up around the lip where the dishwasher opens if you are worried, its easy to get food safe sealer at most big box stores or other online shops. Just rub it on, and done.
I can say that the Miele doesn’t pop open, it has a definite mechanism that opens it only after the steam has been converted to water. Some humidity is obviously released, but not anything excessive. It makes the dishes perfectly dry and room temperature by the time the cycle is over. A portion of the cycle time is still the drying phase as the excess moisture is condensed. Don’t buy anything but the best Miele. You will be glad you did every time you go in the kitchen.
In my last home I replaced a 6mo old Samsung (couldn’t be repaired) with the kitchen-aid 604 series which I loved except that right around the recall for leaking heating elements, mine started leaking. Thankfully whirlpool covered it but it took several weeks for the repair. In my new home, I selected the Miele 7176(with AutoDos). I really miss the kitchen-aid. The Miele is awesome to load several place settings but anything else doesn’t fit well in the machine. I’ve tried several different ways to load it and followed Miele’s videos on how to load the dishwasher but any pots/pans/casserole dishes are always covered in water inside. The ProDry feature was better than my Miele on extra dry. As another commenter pointed out, the cycle times on the Miele are insanely long. The quick intense wash estimates 2h33m. It’s advertised as a 58m wash. Then I usually wait at least 30m before unloading because of the lackluster drying.
See for me I was always deterred by Miele because they focus way too much on water saving and electric thus making there wash times way longer, Thermador (can’t stand them But the sapphire dishwasher is a champion) also being a Bosh company it has that zeolite drying feature and it works!
Miele has a “quick intense” cycle that takes 56 minutes. It works perfectly. It uses more water and power, but very litttle more. After having a Miele since 1997 I knew I would never be satisfied with anything else. I love it. Even the quick intense cycle only uses about 5 gallons. When you are going to be living with something every day it’s worth it to get the best.
@@jw77019 Bosch dishwashers have also a quick intense cycle, but they have an eco cycle which is meant to save water and energy and in brilliant. Bosch dishwashers are superior to Miele because they have better wash cycles and fewer problems. Miele quality is going down the hill and is slowly its quality aura.
![An up close look at the BOSCH 800 Series dishwashers!!! [Featuring the Bosch SHP78CM5N]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/JMu0-raaYbs/mqdefault.jpg)
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Thank you for this great video. What models do you both have at home?
I have 2 Bosch diswashers in my home that we've had for the last 15 years. Both have performed flawlessly and had no repairs. I highly recommend Bosch
I bought a Bosch. It ran good for about 3 years. But around the 3 year mark it started having LOTS of problems. After multiple service visits, the technician wrote it off as unfixable. I have found that Bosch is not that good. Not buying Bosch again.
Thanks, this confirmed my decsion to go with a Bosch. Question: Is the door popping open for the dry cycle a problem for wood butcher block countertops?
The butcher block should be sealed. And to maintain it, you need to keep up on the seal every so often. I would just touch up around the lip where the dishwasher opens if you are worried, its easy to get food safe sealer at most big box stores or other online shops. Just rub it on, and done.
I can say that the Miele doesn’t pop open, it has a definite mechanism that opens it only after the steam has been converted to water. Some humidity is obviously released, but not anything excessive. It makes the dishes perfectly dry and room temperature by the time the cycle is over. A portion of the cycle time is still the drying phase as the excess moisture is condensed. Don’t buy anything but the best Miele. You will be glad you did every time you go in the kitchen.
In my last home I replaced a 6mo old Samsung (couldn’t be repaired) with the kitchen-aid 604 series which I loved except that right around the recall for leaking heating elements, mine started leaking. Thankfully whirlpool covered it but it took several weeks for the repair.
In my new home, I selected the Miele 7176(with AutoDos). I really miss the kitchen-aid. The Miele is awesome to load several place settings but anything else doesn’t fit well in the machine. I’ve tried several different ways to load it and followed Miele’s videos on how to load the dishwasher but any pots/pans/casserole dishes are always covered in water inside. The ProDry feature was better than my Miele on extra dry.
As another commenter pointed out, the cycle times on the Miele are insanely long. The quick intense wash estimates 2h33m. It’s advertised as a 58m wash. Then I usually wait at least 30m before unloading because of the lackluster drying.
See for me I was always deterred by Miele because they focus way too much on water saving and electric thus making there wash times way longer, Thermador (can’t stand them But the sapphire dishwasher is a champion) also being a Bosh company it has that zeolite drying feature and it works!
Miele has a “quick intense” cycle that takes 56 minutes. It works perfectly. It uses more water and power, but very litttle more. After having a Miele since 1997 I knew I would never be satisfied with anything else. I love it. Even the quick intense cycle only uses about 5 gallons. When you are going to be living with something every day it’s worth it to get the best.
@@jw77019 Bosch dishwashers have also a quick intense cycle, but they have an eco cycle which is meant to save water and energy and in brilliant. Bosch dishwashers are superior to Miele because they have better wash cycles and fewer problems. Miele quality is going down the hill and is slowly its quality aura.
Which 800 model doesn’t have a bar handle?