My dad installed a 1962 KitchenAid dishwasher (Hobart made) in our house. My parents have passed away, and my nephew bought the house and still lives there. That KitcheAid is still going strong. Today KitchenAid is owned by Whirlpool and no longer very good.
@@lklpalka That's of course because Hobart makes commercial restaurant equipment. At an organization I volunteer at, we have a 1976 Hobart AM 12 commercial dishwasher, it still runs and washes like the day it was brand new. Oil the motor once a year, clean the spray arms, wash tank and strainer bucket out every time you use the machine and it will last forever. The only thing that was replaced was 10 years ago the Hatco booster heater went bad so we replaced that but other than that the machine is Original to the building.
I wish I’d of taken my old Maytag with me to my new house. That thing could clean plates with dried on pasta. It was a HAAS! We moved into our current home 15 years ago. The dishwasher sucks!
Been a third party installation tech for 4 years now and the dishwasher I had the least amount of issues with was by far Bosch. Quietest on the market, reliable, and cleans great
@@Tackla77you could say that about any appliance though. Would rather go with the trusted brand that would take a lot longer to break down. All depends on how you take care of your stuff as well
@@michaelchilders2012 unless you buy from a small appliance shop then no, with the contracts we have with Best Buy, Lowe’s and Home Depot were the ones who have to deal with the whole process. From pick up to delivery/ haul aways and a lot of the times troubleshooting/repairs because whatever we install it’s our problem if something goes wrong. That’s why I said from my experience I hardly have to go back to a customers home with a bosch dw. More of Samsung, kitchen aid etc.
As a repair tech I've worked on tons of LGs, Whirlpool brands, Samsung, Beko, etc. The crappiest by far is Samsung. The dealer I work for sells a decent amount of Bosch dishwashers, and I almost never had to work on them. I've replace a water valve on one and a UI board on one, and that's it. I don't have to work on them, because they just work. That's why they're more expensive. LG and GE are prone to UI and control board failures, Whirlpool brands are prone to diverter leaks and main motor failures (both result in replacing the sump/motor assembly (expensive)) and Samsung is just generally garbage. Outside of phones and TVs, Samsung has no business in the appliance market and should be banned. Spend the extra money and get the Bosch. You'll thank yourself later.
Our current dishwasher is a Bosch, and we love it. We bought it to replace the one that came with the house because its controls are accessible to my wife, who is blind. It has real buttons rather than a touchpad, but most importantly, it has a button for each cycle, rather than two buttons to rotate among the cycles, with lights to indicate which cycle is currently selected. But it's quiet, does a great job, and has a third silverware/utensil rack on top that turns out to be really useful. In the early '90s, we bought a KitchenAid portable dishwasher with a scratch-and-dent discount. We loved that dishwasher, used it in three rented homes, and eventually installed it as a built-in dishwasher to replace the cheap one that came with our townhome in 2003. It did a great job too, although after more than 20 years, the racks were starting to rust in places.
Yeah, I was wondering why he was pulling records out of the dishwasher. Then I got the joke when he said about the dishwasher having so much really good metal in it.
I have a 3 year old Bosch 800. Was getting an error code that the Zeolite container was leaking. (After being quoted at the tune of 3/4 of the price of what I paid for the dishwasher to fix, I am hesitant to buy another Bosch.) The container rusted through the bottom screws which caused the leak. And why did it rust? Long story short: The water tube cracked on the side (a very well known issue) and it was forcing excessive water into the Zeolite container. The water that didn't evaporate through the cycle caused the screws to rust and eventually break. So Bosch dishwasher buyer beware!!! The spray tube has a well known issue with cracking. Check WEEKLY that it isn't cracked (mine cracked on the side closest to the drain and on the side facing the Zeolite container).
I have an ancient Magic Chef (GE) with a plastic tub. Bought it at a garage sale more than 30 yrs. ago. Works very well and doesn't have the ridiculously long cycles of new units. The pump finally died 2 yrs. ago. No problem, just ordered one on line, installed it (not hard at all) and all is well once more. When you consider how little there is to a DW, the prices charged for those machines are obscene.
I’ve been an appliance service tech and installer for 29 years and the best hands down dishwasher on the market is Asko it uses the fewest amount of plastic parts of anybody in the industry, the whole dishwasher, including the water connection, sits over a steel galvanized pan with a float trigger switch in the bottom of it, so if it gets any leaks even in the water supply, it were tripped the dishwasher into a drain cycle and did nothing but drain until you can do something about it. They’re also tested and built for 15 to 20 years worth of service. It’s what I own. It’s the only thing I would own. It is a better built Bosch if you’re familiar with what Bosch is. It even dries extremely well and the only place that carries them or places that service what they sell. And if they do have to be serviced parts are readily available for them.
Similar here, I’ve been repairing, installing dishwashers for 37 years now. But, sorry , id have to disagree completely with you. Since the past 6 years ASKO as a company have changed completely from the exceptional Swedish brand they once were, now it is owned by Gorenje Group which is a part of Chinese major appliances manufacturer Hisense. The product quality is worse than second rate, yet very expensive. They have also introduced a range of cooking products (ovens and cooktops) all complete Chinese garbage. I’ve had loads of firsthand experience as I was a warranty repair contractor for ASKO . I’d rate all ASKO products in the bottom 30% of all products on the shelf.
This hasn’t been my experience at all, they’re last two models I’ve worked on more than the previous, yes I know about the change but far less than anyone else and I service whirlpool, Electrolux, Bosch, Viking, Bloomberg, GE, Sub-Zero’s Cove and quit servicing Miele, Samsung and Lg. Asko still uses fewer plastic parts as well as the most all the same components with the exception of electronics. Again our analytics In our computer system show all of the percentages sales to Service show of everything that we sell there still percentage, wise or lowest serviced dishwasher
@@bensappliancesandjunk so true (so sad) their washing machines and dishwashers USED to be the benchmark for quality, now sadly they are the prime example of mutton dressed up as lamb, (unless you are an Aussie that means it looks expensive , it is expensive,,,, but is poor quality). Same goes with their recent addition to their range of ovens and cooktops, absolutely rubbish quality. I saw it first hand as we were warranty repairs for ASKO for a while, the product was so bad, the customers so disappointed because they spent $$ thousands on their purchase, we told asko that we wouldn’t do work for them anymore. (It was too embarrassing for our technicians)
I hate y’all are seeing this because neither myself or our computer program statistics are, it’s still one of our best selling dishwashers and our lowest serviced.
I just built a new house and had a Kitchenaid dishwasher put in. It’s actually quieter than the then the mini fridge I have in place of my regular fridge until it gets in. I’m impressed I believe it’s advertised as 39DB
Totally agree with Bosch! I have two of them in my house and they have both been used alot in the 10 or more years we've had them. Neither have ever had any issues
I bought a Ascenta® Dishwasher by Bosch less than 2 years ago and it now takes 2-3 cycles to clean dishes. Their warranty is 1 year. Figures...I had a Series 600 unit that totally died on August 9 in one of my rental houses and the needed part to repair was not available until end October! Had to move on to a different brand. Done with Bosch.
I bought my house 15 years ago so the Whirlpool dishwasher is now over 20 years old and still works well in spite of the rusting racks. It's rare to have any single item that isn't completely cleaned. As far as refrigerators, over the past 20 years, I've owned 2 side by side with ice and water in the door with no issue. One was Whirlpool and the one I'm still using is a Kitchenaid
got a Bosch 7 yrs ago...thing that impressed me the most was the little guys inside it with the pressure washers that cleaned off the dishes while we moved or slept away in the house...they were so quiet, the red light on the floor or lack of, told us when the load wash finished
Same here, we bought a Bosch to replace the 20 year old dishwasher that was already there. Our house is an open floorplan and you barley hear it when it's running. Much better at actual cleaning as well.
I got the KDFE204 with three racks (I did not want the rack that dipped down like the one he shows in the video), incredibly quiet, during most of the wash cycle I cannot even tell it is running. Had it for 8 months and so far I am very happy with it.
I sell Danby from time to time,good company,they are serviceable(slow),customer care is ok.That countertop model works well for what it is. Bosch & Kitchenaid are sold in my store almost 50/50. Thanks for the video, I really enjoy watching them. These really help me sell. Keep up the amazing work....
I keep our two 1984 high-end potscrubbers running. They are absolutely better at cleaning than anything on the market, today. 1) We have well water, so don't anybody lecture me on wasting water. 2) We re-cycle our gray water, see (1). 3) We have a water softener. 4) We run our hot water aat 140F. If I were forced to buy a new dishwasher, today (not happening, GE made a billion of those and there will be repair parts forever), I'd follow Ben's advice.
Your advice has become invaluable! I've been researching to replace our entire kitchen, and I found a Bosch 100 series under 600 at Lowes and it's cheaper than the Samsung that we were looking at.
We bought a second hand Bosch. Ran it regularly and normal for 4 years and the electric connection fried. Easy fix but we're lazy. Been running it on pots and pans for another 3 years with no issues.
Great recommendations and breakdown. We bought a Bosch 500 series eight years ago. Zero issues or repairs. And best of all, it washes the dishes for me!
An easily removable filter is the main thing I’m looking for in my next dishwasher. I have a 6 year old Maytag that runs beautifully, but I have to completely disassemble the insides to get to that filter. Leaning over that open door, trying to take everything apart is tough on my old bones.
I watched your previous ranking videos but had to buy blindly on our dishwasher. Based on previous comments you made, we made our best judgement. All to find out you listed the exact unit we bought! Love the information and keep up the great work!
Another excellent video Ben. I still have the pre-Whirlpool Maytag I bought new ages ago. Porcelain over steel tub. The machine has never been touched for repairs. Cleaning quality is excellent.
@@bensappliancesandjunk I will NEVER buy Maytag again. My ex won the Maytag washer & dryer I had and loved, I replaced them with Maytag which both were junk. Also bought a Maytag fridge and had it fixed so many times I paid for it twice. I was looking for good information on replacing the four-year old 18" GE dishwasher that has failed again. GE seems to be going down the Maytag path unfortunately.
We got the MDB49 last summer for a great sale price ($549), we didn't need it until December so we stored it in my parent's garage. Let's just say it became a scratch and dent. It got backed into. Very glad the damage was to the back of the tub (2x4 and a sledgehammer were needed), but it works great and is SUPER quiet!
The recommendation of a surge protector makes a lot of sense. I bought a fairly expensive one when we got our refrigerator years ago - for the very reason you mentioned. I have a VERY expensive one that all of our living room video and audio equipment runs through - for that same reason. P. S. I try to keep my old albums as clean as possible, also.
I had a Kitchen Aid top of the line (over 1800.00) and had nothing but trouble over the 6 years I had it i replaced the heater, the detergent dispenser, the pump, t the filter, now the motor went, also had to replace parts of the upper rack that just fell apart. Not the performance I expected from Kitchen Aid top of the line i just purchased a new LG
I bought the Kitchen Aid a couple of years ago and love it. Previously had a Miele which I also loved but couldn't get one because of the pandemic. Kitchen Aid dries better.
My parents bought a Maytag about 4 years ago and it is great. Steel tub inside and cleans very well. I think they paid about $600 for it. The only thing I don't like is the utensil basket where you have to slot each utensil into its own hole. Gah, I hate that! But solved easily enough by sliding that off the basket and then just putting the utensils how and where you like in the basket compartments. Will probably buy one of those when I can get my own place again.
This is my thought every video of his I watch. Top of the line fridge recommendation is different brand than stove, dishwasher is different brand than both the fridge and stove, and so is the washer and dryer......I want the best appliances, but I also want all of my appliances to match. So I'm very conflicted 😕
Got a metal tub Maytag at Lowes for around $550 or so...so far its been great. Our old GE that was cheaper lasted almost 9 years. The Maytag is way quiter also. Hopefully it last 9 or 10 years if so ill be happy. Sort of regret just not getting a Bosch. Maybe ill look for a lightly used one and swap out.
I've owned the Farberware portable unit for nearly three years and haven't felt like I needed to retrofit my kitchen with a built-in. It definitely doesn't have the capacity that a family would need but a single individual or a couple could get by easily with it. The pods will overload the unit with too much detergent so I ended up trying the cascade complete powder detergent and that combination honestly cleans better then my grandmothers built-in bosch. It even has a fruit cycle. Honestly one of my better recent purchases. 5 stars and highly recommend the Farberware portable dishwasher.
I have one of those Danby countertops (although a different model) and they honestly work fine. In fact, they do an excellent job, even with nasty pots and pans. They're inexpensive enough where if they break and are out of warranty they're easy enough to replace.
Me too I have the newer model but I've heard of people having like an older model of our brand they last a long time mine was built 3\2020 I got mine for free in September a family was moving to Texas and put it out to the road I snatched that sucker up and plummed the third hole in the sink with a bathroom faucet and plummed in hot and cold You're right they are beautiful they're quiet The only thing is I noticed I use 7th generation liquid detergent non-bleach! It's like seven bucks at Lowe's Your machine will last for years and years and years
I'm a repairman and install many dishwashers, disposers, washers, dryers, and refrigerators. Lately, I'm replacing a lot of two and three year old appliances that were top-of-the-line. There's a lot of instant junk that's being sold to the general public through the big box stores, almost all of the failed components (control boards and pumps) are Chinese. Within two years my neighbor's Samsung developed a leaking seal that destroyed the motor and leaked through the ceiling in the floor below. It was replaced with a new, all stainless Kitchenaide. My niece's top of the line LG lasted just 3 years before it was replaced with a Kitchenaide. I personally own a 23 year old all stainless Kitchenaide that was a hand me down. I replaced some of the moving interior parts and it works perfectly. I especially like the soft food disposer that many of the new dishwashers don't offer. It's fast, quiet, and was a gift because a friend bought a Miele with a kitchen remodel. At one point the owner wanted the old Kitchenaide back because she's unhappy with the Miele. Another friend has a new Bosch and complains about odor. He keeps the filter clean, but there's an odor that Bosch service can't eliminate. He talks about replacing the new Bosch with something else, and sometimes wished he still had his old top of the line Frigidaire.
The tyranny of control electronics. Electro-mechanical all the way. When you start thinking about a dishwasher costing upwards of $800 to $1000 dollars and only lasting 5 years, plus the cost of the detergent packs? That's a pretty bad deal.
🤣 I thought about swapping out and moving with my beloved, year-old Bosch 800 DW when I sold my house, but I decided to buy a new one for my new house. I hope I find a good deal like you did! If not, no worries. Worth every penny. Never thought I'd love a DW so much.
+1 for looking for scratch and dent deals. We found a 7366 model Miele for $1100 because it had a scratch and a slight dent on the front panel. We don’t care, because it’s barely noticeable.
My fave is a kitchen aid we paid a little over 800.00 for. Virtually silent, 3rd rack in the top for big utensils, great looking, cleans EVERUTHING we have put in it, including pans. We LOVE it. Our realtor got a Bosch and is not happy with it. Noisier and he said when you open the door, it smells strongly of rubber like burning tires.
Frigidaire plastic basin over here: there is a hole on the bottom from a warped heating element and it ruined my floor. When your first recommendation was to get metal, it didn't take much more. I'll go without a dishwasher for a bit until we can grab one.
EVERYONE (here, and otherwise!) speaks very highly of Bosch. I purchased one of the 800 series, and when I open the door after a cycle, the inside stinks! Everytime. And I don't always wash stuff with garlic residue. I've had several dishwashers over time, and never had this problem! I recently read something that this is somewhat of a known issue with Bisch, related the the pump not draining completely. I ignore the golen rule of not rinsing - so doubtful this is causing the issue. Plus, again, no problems, ever, with other brands. Ant thoughts = suggestions before I swap this out, please? Thanks!
When I bought my home, the inspector commented on my Samsung dishwasher saying that he had the same model and when it broke, he had a very hard time finding someone who was willing to work on Samsungs, at least in our area. He said that appliance techs don't really like them because they have a history of breaking down not too long after repairs. He said that when they work they're fine, but if it breaks I should probably just replace it instead of paying a few hundred dollars to essentially put it on life support. I'm tempted to replace it now and sell it while it still works. When I was growing up our dishwasher failed and started flooding our kitchen and I don't really feel like dealing with that. I think that modern dishwashers don't tend to flood kitchens too often, especially since they use less water than those in the early 90's, but I still wouldn't want to go without my dishwasher for more than a week or so.
Nice video! One super important metric I see missing from pretty much EVERY dishwasher review video is interior space. Between brands this can be massive. I originally wanted a Bosch for my new house, until I saw how pathetically small they are inside, and went with a Kitchenaid, which are noticeably larger. Bosch are great units, for sure, but capacity means a lot too. Better yet, my wife groaned at many of your weird jokes in this video. Bravo!
have a Kenmore elite that's 22 years old, still cleaning fine, a couple labels on buttons came off but still works, wifey wants a new one, I'm sad sears no long around LOL
I had a Mayatg W10632072A in 2015. Crapped out after 13 months (1 month after warranty) because of the electrical board, which apparently was designed to not be be sealed. steam would leave the dishwasher, and affect the board. Got a new dishwasher from someone else. No idea if this is a problem anymore, but something to look out for.
I had a Whirlpool (eg. Kenmore Elite) for 15 years, and it finally fried itself. I replaced it with a German made Bosch 800 and that thing is amazing. Only two Bosch models available in the US are actually made in Germany. It was a little different in that all of the install videos on RUclips are for the kinds not made in Germany. So far so good as this thing is absolutely silent and cleans like nothing else. I have to put my ear to it to even see that it is running, except for the LED spotlight on the floor.
I had budgeted a set amount for the purchase of a dishwasher... then my wife took charge, after that model was on back order, and upped the ante by $700.00. So we ended up with the best of the best of the best. (MIB reference) It hurt a bit financially, but after almost a year of operation, we're happy with our Bosch.
I have the Bosche 800 series and it is quiet, but the buttons seem to get confused at times and if this one is supposed to have good drying, I'd not like to see a modern dishwasher with bad drying. My ancient Hobart (Kitchen Aid) and the one I grew up with in the 70's were noisier, but they really dried the dishes and the porcelain tub was way better than what passes for steel these days. And reliability? When I moved into my old house and lived there for 15 years, the already very old Hobart kept running the entire time with zero issues. And . . . DRY DISHES. No amount of rinse aids or always instantly very hot water or open doors after the cycle will dry the dishes like the old Hobart.
You are absolutely right, the Bosch 800 series dishwasher is the best. When I had remodel done in my kitchen, I went with the 800 series and its very quite. I forget sometimes the dishwasher is even running until I hear the dishwasher start to drain.
I bought a Danby for my tiny apartment. The same exact machine is sold under multiple brand names, so I have a theory whoever OEMs it actually has a solid design. And indeed it works well. Knock on wood.
I subscribed to your channel. I love your videos. You are quite informative snd know your stuff. I definitely recommend the total stainless steel interior as we have. We have the high end Kitchenaid wirh the three racks snd love it. Its understood that the plastic interiors tend to grow bacteria if not properly taken care of. We had a kitchenaid Superba IV midel prior and it did a fantastic job of cleaning in a much shorter time than alot of the new dishwashers. Not to put LG down, but Kitchenaid had the quad wash system long before LG. The wash arm on the LG quadwash has a little bit of a different shape. I don't believe the newer Kitchenaid dishwasher has that system anymore. Please continue to keep us well informed. You do a great job!!!
Every person I know who complained about appliances breaking down within the first few months or years of owning, had one thing in common. All the appliances were LG. My bosses LG refrigerator died within 2 years, and his LG dishwasher died at 2 1/2 years. The fridge compressor has been replaced, but the dishwasher wasn’t worth repairing, with the estimate that was given. Another person had a repair person over multiple times for a wash machine leak. She is lucky she has tile floors, another lady I know has wood floors that were damaged from an unseen leak.
I sold and heard complaints for 8 years and Bosch comes miles ahead,I have the 300 model with stainless tub,also no open heater coil for stuff to fall on and burn out.3rd rack is amazing for cleaning small stuff.Also maintenance is key I run a cleaner every month,and clean filter,use rinse aid and Finish tablets,live in Vegas have no softener and my dishes come out spot less.Also my unit has a built in check valve so if the water feed line bursts it will turn water off to unit, which is smart because unit won't burn up,downside valve is another possible failure point.Also look for scratches dents return units,i picked my unit up 6 years ago for 150$,my step sons LG a couple years ago for less then 400$
The "Issue" with Bosch horror stories is that they are probably the #1 brand for dishwashers, sales/volume wise, so you're going to hear more horror stories just due to sheer volume. Where things get dicey are say LG/Samsung/GE where their market share is way lower, and still have tons of horror stories...
@@bensappliancesandjunk not to mention what the sales person sells can add to the problem, originally my Unit came with a pigtail and a junction box to mount to wall ,but kept burning out ,after reaching out to Bosch they didn't have answers, until I found it myself a cord that plugged directly into unit without pigtail or junction box, haven't had issues since.But Lowe's at the time was always selling pigtails I can only imagine how many people had the same issue and gave up.I ask the Bosch Rep to remedy issue with corporate, but naturally no one cares 1 Year is all you get and I don't care how much you spent 😂
@@bensappliancesandjunk I bought a brand new Bosch series 8 today. Interface is on the outside and beautifully done. Well lit. Dishes bone dry and hot and cleaning was also immaculate. I’m not exaggerating. Perhaps I’d put the high end Miele 2nd. Cheers NZ.
I have had 2 Bosch dishwashers. No complaints, replaced the first one because we went with all stainless steel appliances. Sold the first and heard it is still going good. They are a very quiet dishwasher. I Have had the last one over 6 years. I am sold on the Bosch. I also had a Modern Maid and Maytag I really didn’t have any problem with them. They were just not as nice as the Bosch. They get old and we think we need to replace them
Used dishwashers are also a very good option. I’ve bought a few of them before and I’ve had the best experience. Be picky, look for clean dishwashers with what you personally want. We went for a two year old Maytag from 2019 which uses a different wash system that isn’t offered anymore, and it cleans effortlessly & is also very quiet. It’s built extremely well, and has become my favorite dishwasher I’ve had before. Older Bosch models are excellent too my grandparents still have one from 2009 still running flawlessly.
Love your videos and Humor!!! Unloading the Records and paper plates was the best... That chat with the Wife on washing the dishes was pure win!! Thank you
We had old appliances, pretty much never broke down. When they did, I fixed it pretty easy. Then my wife wanted new. So new dishwasher, oven, fridge, washer and dryer. Everything but oven broke down and replaced within 6 years. On my 3rd dishwasher!!! GE broke. Got another GE, broke. Now I’m trying a Bosch 800 🤷♂️ so far so good.
That Denby tabletop is also pretty ubiquitous over here in Europe too (I assume it is made by Haier?). Over here they are are rebadged by Electrolux under the Zanussi (freestanding) and AEG (built in) brands, and the likes of Candy and Indesit have also rebadged them in the past. They are also commonly sold under private label brands such as Russell Hobbs and electriQ too.
Our KitchenAid KUDR24SE is 26-1/2 yrs old, runs great, and never required service. Racks started rusting several years ago -we replaced the lower one with a rack from a DW a neighbor was discarding, but upper rack is getting pretty bad and now there's some rust in other areas. Racks are crazy expensive, so time to shop. This KitchenAid doesn't owe us anything!
Great presentation, congratulations on the house! I’m interested in your thoughts on the new countertop inset style of top loads. Also, what are your thoughts on a smaller commercial unit for home use?
My dishwasher , countertop stove and wall oven have since 91 jenn-air brand looks so classic and kind of looks retro and cool still working and killing it
My house came with a dishwasher when I moved in 2003. A few years later the bottom had a small crack and I stopped using it. I found used on Craigslist a 11 year old dishwasher that was replaced by a family that remodeled their kitchen and had money. I paid $65.00 for it and it lasted me about 15 years I think? Just tonight it started making strange noises and wasn’t filled with water. I think I got my moneys worth? I can live without one until I find a good deal again on a used. Or if I find a great deal on a new but I’m not spending $500 bucks on one! I can’t afford it right now!
Just bought a used KitchenAid by Hobart KD-16. The only drawback seems to be the sound, but the wattage on the heater is about the same as modern units (1400W), and it seems we don't need to pre-rinse before adding any dishes, so any inefficiencies in water usage pretty much compensate for themselves (assuming 1-2 gpm, 5 minutes of rinsing; 3-6 gal on a new vs 13.5 on the old).
Might have to give Kitchen another look. After 9 years our Maytag fell apart. The top rack glider wheel cracked (warranty), the top sprayer arm no longer oscillated, the board malfunctioned to the point that it never cycled past the wash cycle causing the motor to fail. I went with a Bosch 300 as a replacement, and against my better judgement I wish that I had at least kept my utensil holder as the one provided is so small that it goes flying around the tub which will likely damage the top sprayer arm. This unit also lacks choppers and a heating element in favor of a filter and condensation drying. The latter is unacceptable. The unit needs a standalone drying cycle. I’ve read reviews of people being upset about the smart features being that the app requires remote start button confirmation on the unit itself. What’s not explained is for true remote starting the unit requires a hub device. I use an Echo, but I can see why people wouldn’t want one in their home. I liken this to a BMW or Mercedes in that I’m sure German engineering used plastics where in the U.S. metal used to be preferred for durability sans gaskets, hoses, fluid containers. I assume that repair costs will follow the same trend of being labor extensive.
I have a Whirlpool "Four Forty" SXU440-1. Made in the early 1970's. It has worked well for a long time with a few repairs. Right now it needs a replacement pump but parts availability is a problem.
Entertaining and informative. Personally, we have replaced all of our original GE large appliances with LG, except for the gas range, which is Samsung, since that was what was a REALLY good deal at Lowe's, when I needed to replace. I have had good service from it, except for the lettering around the knobs. My LG dishwasher has performed very well, in the past five years of ownership. Keep up the great work you do...Rip
Great video can you explain your recommendation of a surge protector? Where do you install it? Excellent idea to save the motherboard of a dishwasher? We have an old dishwasher given to us. How do you check for issues before install? After seeing your videos and reading the comments.I think stuff was made way better 20 years ago. Enjoy your content you really save me a lot of money I was going to buy a Samsung electric stove and washer not anymore. Thank you.
Surge protector: Usually the DW used an electrical plug under the sink. Plug a surge protector into that plug, and the DW into the surge protector. Since there is water under the sink, you need to mount the surge protector where it can't get wet like a side wall away from the drains, faucets and water lines.
I have a Frigidaire from 2019. Failures were the items that cost more than the most basic model, control board and a fancy style spray arm. Next model will be either no dishwasher or the most basic model
Bought an LG 4 years ago and it only worked for two weeks! I was lucky the store took it back and bought a Bosch and have had not a single issue in 4 years! From what I've read LG is not good for Dishwashers but they are great for Washers/Dryers. My advice to everybody for Dishwasher is to buy a Bosch.
surge protector story: A cheap plug in surge protector. In 2005 I bought a duet FL washer. In 2007 the control board went out...after multiple service calls trying to figure out what was wrong...the board was replaced. From that day after the board was replaced... I plugged it into a surge protector and here was are almost 19 years and it still works.... is that why? I don't know... But to be fair, my dishwasher is NOT plugged into one and it still works... but it's 10 yrs old...
I don't have a whole house surge protector but I sure bought one for the outlet in which my new clothes washer is plugged. There's one for the microwave, too.
When replacing my dishwasher I really wanted a Bosch 800 series but it was during covid shortages and no one had any idea when I would be able to get one. I ended up getting a Whirlpool that had similar features. We really like it but long term the Bosch would probably have been better.
If you're buying an 18" dishwasher for a small kitchen, you really won't have much choice. I ended up getting the GE one that matches my range, and it's fine.
I loved the Dixie plate and buying a house, but not "this one"... ROFL. Thank you for the chuckle today. Happy Thanksgiving and Merry Christmas. I bought a Whirlpool 4+ yrs ago and its still going strong, stainless steel tub.
Thank you so much for your informative and with humor video! Our 24 years old dishwasher Kenmore by whirlpool doesn’t work anymore. My husband changed ones control board and it worked very well for so long… time to replace:) Bosh what we will be looking for.
blomberg is the same brand as beko btw, they just have a longer warranty but usually are identical models, occasionally they have an extra feature or 2.
Ben I usually agree with you 100% and thank you as usual for all your content, especially the repairs. When I bought a dishwasher, I was looking for one that heated the wash water in the machine. And also had an upper arm. Don't think they make them any more without these two very important features. So about 8+ years ago, bought a Kenmore, not the very basic, but the one next to it. 250.00 delivered and installed. I have had a plastic tub with this new one for 8 years, there is no downside, and it is very quiet, To the point that you don't think you turned it on. Metal tubs IMHO, are a delusion to make you think you have a better machine. Wash and rinse cycles are scalding hot but I don't use "sani", and never have. Never use heated drying. But maybe rinse aid, if it is really humid. Forget the dispenser, just add to the final rinse, sometimes. Then open and let it all air dry. I live in Tampa, so try to cut down on extra heat and humidity. Maintenance: I clean the filters almost every week, =/-, about every 6 months take both arms off to make sure there is nothing blocking the jets, sometimes there is. Use strong straight citric acid about every 2 months on the longest cycle. This removes every bit of calcium build up and since it is non-toxic, I will run my glasses and flatware with it as well. Followed by "quick rinse", just to be sure. Walmart detergent very bad, Aldi's is good. I have never used any other of the cycles, always, "normal". I have never had a dirty dish and am confident that the dishes are sanitized. Cute kid BTW. Thanks again.
I love the way you clean it. I have a four-year old GE 18" which has failed twice now. Have a VERY small kitchen so looking for a better quality 18" or considering a single drawer DW which are still fairly new. I was looking for information before I buy again and appreciate the comments from real people.
Great videos! I was wondering: you mentioned that it is a good idea to use a surge protector for your dishwasher? Is there a GFCI surge protector set up you recommend?
Fisher & Paykel is one that I have had great experience with. With only 2 people in the house and not wanting to wait an entire week to wash dishes the 2 drawers have worked great. Now I bought mine back in 2012 and it was still working in 2022 when I sold the house. I do appreciate all the good information provided by Ben.
i bought my one back in the 80s and it was a load of crap, it broke down under warranty and after 3 years i replaced it with an aeg. it was 3 times the price but lasted 6 times longer and was a hell of a lot quieter and washed better. like their smart washing machines the first ones were rubbish but they learnt from there mistakes. but l have heard bad things about the haier brand they now sell
@@jonkvh i only ever use the 30 minute wash in my aeg, works well on glasses plates and pots, but plastic always needs a going over with the tea towel to dry off. you can never have too big a dishwasher, fridge oven or washing machine, you will never ever say l wish l could fit less into it
Thank you. Based on your recommendation I have bought the paper plates and haven't looked back. Definitely my best dishwasher purchase.
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You can still use the sink to wash dishes. Sheesh, this generation
@@AtomSquirrel 'tis a joke
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“I told my dishwasher that she was hot and that’s probably why I have 3 kids that look exactly like me” - this is gold 😂😂😂
Lol :) !
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Can someone explain the joke to me
@@ColocasiaCorm he's calling his wife his dishwasher
@@Karboooo but what does the fact they look exactly like him have to do with it. That she was faithful to him?
My dad installed a 1962 KitchenAid dishwasher (Hobart made) in our house. My parents have passed away, and my nephew bought the house and still lives there. That KitcheAid is still going strong. Today KitchenAid is owned by Whirlpool and no longer very good.
I have everything kitchenaid in my kitchen and it’s fantastic stuff. Better than the old stuff I replaced by a mile.
Those Hobart's were America prime.
@@lklpalka That's of course because Hobart makes commercial restaurant equipment. At an organization I volunteer at, we have a 1976 Hobart AM 12 commercial dishwasher, it still runs and washes like the day it was brand new. Oil the motor once a year, clean the spray arms, wash tank and strainer bucket out every time you use the machine and it will last forever. The only thing that was replaced was 10 years ago the Hatco booster heater went bad so we replaced that but other than that the machine is Original to the building.
I wish I’d of taken my old Maytag with me to my new house. That thing could clean plates with dried on pasta. It was a HAAS! We moved into our current home 15 years ago. The dishwasher sucks!
My uncle in law is a Hobart repair man
"If you are looking for a dishwasher made with metal under $500 I suggest paper plates" 😂😂😂😂😂 You made my day!
Just look for open box
Hands-down, the most informative and humorous review of dishwashers on RUclips. Thank you!
Been a third party installation tech for 4 years now and the dishwasher I had the least amount of issues with was by far Bosch. Quietest on the market, reliable, and cleans great
Until it breaks down
@@Tackla77you could say that about any appliance though. Would rather go with the trusted brand that would take a lot longer to break down. All depends on how you take care of your stuff as well
Installation tech doesn't have to work on dishwashers. They just create service tickets for us repair techs
@@michaelchilders2012 unless you buy from a small appliance shop then no, with the contracts we have with Best Buy, Lowe’s and Home Depot were the ones who have to deal with the whole process. From pick up to delivery/ haul aways and a lot of the times troubleshooting/repairs because whatever we install it’s our problem if something goes wrong. That’s why I said from my experience I hardly have to go back to a customers home with a bosch dw. More of Samsung, kitchen aid etc.
As a repair tech I've worked on tons of LGs, Whirlpool brands, Samsung, Beko, etc. The crappiest by far is Samsung. The dealer I work for sells a decent amount of Bosch dishwashers, and I almost never had to work on them. I've replace a water valve on one and a UI board on one, and that's it. I don't have to work on them, because they just work. That's why they're more expensive. LG and GE are prone to UI and control board failures, Whirlpool brands are prone to diverter leaks and main motor failures (both result in replacing the sump/motor assembly (expensive)) and Samsung is just generally garbage. Outside of phones and TVs, Samsung has no business in the appliance market and should be banned. Spend the extra money and get the Bosch. You'll thank yourself later.
Our current dishwasher is a Bosch, and we love it. We bought it to replace the one that came with the house because its controls are accessible to my wife, who is blind. It has real buttons rather than a touchpad, but most importantly, it has a button for each cycle, rather than two buttons to rotate among the cycles, with lights to indicate which cycle is currently selected. But it's quiet, does a great job, and has a third silverware/utensil rack on top that turns out to be really useful.
In the early '90s, we bought a KitchenAid portable dishwasher with a scratch-and-dent discount. We loved that dishwasher, used it in three rented homes, and eventually installed it as a built-in dishwasher to replace the cheap one that came with our townhome in 2003. It did a great job too, although after more than 20 years, the racks were starting to rust in places.
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Nice way to underscore the point of metal washers by pulling out the (heavy) metal records from the dishwasher.
Glad you noticed!
Yeah, I was wondering why he was pulling records out of the dishwasher. Then I got the joke when he said about the dishwasher having so much really good metal in it.
How about an E1 error on a Fisher Paykel
I am interested Olinda how to fix my dishwasher it isn't 1 year old. I have not esed it in 6 months.
Thanks for pointing that out. I’m not into metal and could NOT figure that out.
I have a 3 year old Bosch 800. Was getting an error code that the Zeolite container was leaking. (After being quoted at the tune of 3/4 of the price of what I paid for the dishwasher to fix, I am hesitant to buy another Bosch.) The container rusted through the bottom screws which caused the leak.
And why did it rust? Long story short: The water tube cracked on the side (a very well known issue) and it was forcing excessive water into the Zeolite container. The water that didn't evaporate through the cycle caused the screws to rust and eventually break.
So Bosch dishwasher buyer beware!!! The spray tube has a well known issue with cracking. Check WEEKLY that it isn't cracked (mine cracked on the side closest to the drain and on the side facing the Zeolite container).
You’ll find a trend with German engineering where performance is the priority.
Next level commitment to the bit with the black eye!
I have an ancient Magic Chef (GE) with a plastic tub. Bought it at a garage sale more than 30 yrs. ago. Works very well and doesn't have the ridiculously long cycles of new units.
The pump finally died 2 yrs. ago. No problem, just ordered one on line, installed it (not hard at all) and all is well once more. When you consider how little there is to a DW, the prices charged for those machines are obscene.
"Not only is metal a better form of music..." Nicely done
I like that the models are in the description, but I was looking for the records ha
For real lol
I’ve been an appliance service tech and installer for 29 years and the best hands down dishwasher on the market is Asko it uses the fewest amount of plastic parts of anybody in the industry, the whole dishwasher, including the water connection, sits over a steel galvanized pan with a float trigger switch in the bottom of it, so if it gets any leaks even in the water supply, it were tripped the dishwasher into a drain cycle and did nothing but drain until you can do something about it. They’re also tested and built for 15 to 20 years worth of service. It’s what I own. It’s the only thing I would own. It is a better built Bosch if you’re familiar with what Bosch is. It even dries extremely well and the only place that carries them or places that service what they sell. And if they do have to be serviced parts are readily available for them.
Similar here, I’ve been repairing, installing dishwashers for 37 years now. But, sorry , id have to disagree completely with you. Since the past 6 years ASKO as a company have changed completely from the exceptional Swedish brand they once were, now it is owned by Gorenje Group which is a part of Chinese major appliances manufacturer Hisense. The product quality is worse than second rate, yet very expensive. They have also introduced a range of cooking products (ovens and cooktops) all complete Chinese garbage. I’ve had loads of firsthand experience as I was a warranty repair contractor for ASKO . I’d rate all ASKO products in the bottom 30% of all products on the shelf.
This hasn’t been my experience at all, they’re last two models I’ve worked on more than the previous, yes I know about the change but far less than anyone else and I service whirlpool, Electrolux, Bosch, Viking, Bloomberg, GE, Sub-Zero’s Cove and quit servicing Miele, Samsung and Lg. Asko still uses fewer plastic parts as well as the most all the same components with the exception of electronics. Again our analytics In our computer system show all of the percentages sales to Service show of everything that we sell there still percentage, wise or lowest serviced dishwasher
that's exactly why I didn't reccomend them, @spinnymathingy. As far as I knew, ASKO went downhill HARD.
@@bensappliancesandjunk so true (so sad) their washing machines and dishwashers USED to be the benchmark for quality, now sadly they are the prime example of mutton dressed up as lamb, (unless you are an Aussie that means it looks expensive , it is expensive,,,, but is poor quality). Same goes with their recent addition to their range of ovens and cooktops, absolutely rubbish quality. I saw it first hand as we were warranty repairs for ASKO for a while, the product was so bad, the customers so disappointed because they spent $$ thousands on their purchase, we told asko that we wouldn’t do work for them anymore. (It was too embarrassing for our technicians)
I hate y’all are seeing this because neither myself or our computer program statistics are, it’s still one of our best selling dishwashers and our lowest serviced.
I just built a new house and had a Kitchenaid dishwasher put in. It’s actually quieter than the then the mini fridge I have in place of my regular fridge until it gets in. I’m impressed I believe it’s advertised as 39DB
I had a Kitchenaid and it kept breaking down 24/7
Wait until the screen shreds. Problems mount after that.
Totally agree with Bosch! I have two of them in my house and they have both been used alot in the 10 or more years we've had them. Neither have ever had any issues
I bought my washer based on this man's recommendation and I am very happy
I bought a Ascenta® Dishwasher by Bosch less than 2 years ago and it now takes 2-3 cycles to clean dishes. Their warranty is 1 year. Figures...I had a Series 600 unit that totally died on August 9 in one of my rental houses and the needed part to repair was not available until end October! Had to move on to a different brand. Done with Bosch.
Have you ever cleaned the filter on the bottom of the tub?
I bought my house 15 years ago so the Whirlpool dishwasher is now over 20 years old and still works well in spite of the rusting racks. It's rare to have any single item that isn't completely cleaned. As far as refrigerators, over the past 20 years, I've owned 2 side by side with ice and water in the door with no issue. One was Whirlpool and the one I'm still using is a Kitchenaid
Refrigerator: Old is good.
Dishwasher: New is good.
Vinyl rack repair coating is available, if you want to cover the rust.
got a Bosch 7 yrs ago...thing that impressed me the most was the little guys inside it with the pressure washers that cleaned off the dishes while we moved or slept away in the house...they were so quiet, the red light on the floor or lack of, told us when the load wash finished
Same here, we bought a Bosch to replace the 20 year old dishwasher that was already there. Our house is an open floorplan and you barley hear it when it's running. Much better at actual cleaning as well.
Your humor on this one was over the top we’re still rolling around on the floor laughing 😂thanks for the video you do good for all
I got the KDFE204 with three racks (I did not want the rack that dipped down like the one he shows in the video), incredibly quiet, during most of the wash cycle I cannot even tell it is running. Had it for 8 months and so far I am very happy with it.
I sell Danby from time to time,good company,they are serviceable(slow),customer care is ok.That countertop model works well for what it is. Bosch & Kitchenaid are sold in my store almost 50/50. Thanks for the video, I really enjoy watching them. These really help me sell. Keep up the amazing work....
I keep our two 1984 high-end potscrubbers running. They are absolutely better at cleaning than anything on the market, today.
1) We have well water, so don't anybody lecture me on wasting water.
2) We re-cycle our gray water, see (1).
3) We have a water softener.
4) We run our hot water aat 140F.
If I were forced to buy a new dishwasher, today (not happening, GE made a billion of those and there will be repair parts forever), I'd follow Ben's advice.
Hold on to them !
Good for you! Hope they keep running for many more years!
Thanks this is something I've been looking into. Bosch 300 series is where i have settled..
Your advice has become invaluable! I've been researching to replace our entire kitchen, and I found a Bosch 100 series under 600 at Lowes and it's cheaper than the Samsung that we were looking at.
Nice!
We bought a second hand Bosch. Ran it regularly and normal for 4 years and the electric connection fried. Easy fix but we're lazy. Been running it on pots and pans for another 3 years with no issues.
Great recommendations and breakdown. We bought a Bosch 500 series eight years ago. Zero issues or repairs. And best of all, it washes the dishes for me!
An easily removable filter is the main thing I’m looking for in my next dishwasher. I have a 6 year old Maytag that runs beautifully, but I have to completely disassemble the insides to get to that filter. Leaning over that open door, trying to take everything apart is tough on my old bones.
I agree, I have a heart condition, and bending forward makes it difficult to breathe.
I watched your previous ranking videos but had to buy blindly on our dishwasher. Based on previous comments you made, we made our best judgement. All to find out you listed the exact unit we bought! Love the information and keep up the great work!
Another excellent video Ben. I still have the pre-Whirlpool Maytag I bought new ages ago. Porcelain over steel tub. The machine has never been touched for repairs. Cleaning quality is excellent.
NICE!
@@bensappliancesandjunk I will NEVER buy Maytag again. My ex won the Maytag washer & dryer I had and loved, I replaced them with Maytag which both were junk. Also bought a Maytag fridge and had it fixed so many times I paid for it twice. I was looking for good information on replacing the four-year old 18" GE dishwasher that has failed again. GE seems to be going down the Maytag path unfortunately.
We got the MDB49 last summer for a great sale price ($549), we didn't need it until December so we stored it in my parent's garage. Let's just say it became a scratch and dent. It got backed into. Very glad the damage was to the back of the tub (2x4 and a sledgehammer were needed), but it works great and is SUPER quiet!
The recommendation of a surge protector makes a lot of sense. I bought a fairly expensive one when we got our refrigerator years ago - for the very reason you mentioned. I have a VERY expensive one that all of our living room video and audio equipment runs through - for that same reason.
P. S. I try to keep my old albums as clean as possible, also.
I had a Kitchen Aid top of the line (over 1800.00) and had nothing but trouble over the 6 years I had it i replaced the heater, the detergent dispenser, the pump, t the filter, now the motor went, also had to replace parts of the upper rack that just fell apart. Not the performance I expected from Kitchen Aid top of the line i just purchased a new LG
Your wife is super lucky to have you. Happy holidays!!
And probably v.s. too. behind every good man is usually a better woman
That wasn't his wife, it was a squatter!!!! 😂😂😂
Ok around 1:37, ROCK ON to having that Power Slave METAL record on top by Iron Maiden :) One of the best ever!
I bought the Kitchen Aid a couple of years ago and love it. Previously had a Miele which I also loved but couldn't get one because of the pandemic. Kitchen Aid dries better.
My parents bought a Maytag about 4 years ago and it is great. Steel tub inside and cleans very well. I think they paid about $600 for it. The only thing I don't like is the utensil basket where you have to slot each utensil into its own hole. Gah, I hate that! But solved easily enough by sliding that off the basket and then just putting the utensils how and where you like in the basket compartments. Will probably buy one of those when I can get my own place again.
My 4 year old Maytag needs a new circulation pump...good times.
@@KD-fu8ob Sorry to hear that. Theirs is still great, but they only use it once a week.
I'd be very interested in what kitchen set you would recommend. People like to have their appliances match.
This is my thought every video of his I watch. Top of the line fridge recommendation is different brand than stove, dishwasher is different brand than both the fridge and stove, and so is the washer and dryer......I want the best appliances, but I also want all of my appliances to match. So I'm very conflicted 😕
Got a metal tub Maytag at Lowes for around $550 or so...so far its been great. Our old GE that was cheaper lasted almost 9 years. The Maytag is way quiter also. Hopefully it last 9 or 10 years if so ill be happy. Sort of regret just not getting a Bosch. Maybe ill look for a lightly used one and swap out.
I've owned the Farberware portable unit for nearly three years and haven't felt like I needed to retrofit my kitchen with a built-in. It definitely doesn't have the capacity that a family would need but a single individual or a couple could get by easily with it. The pods will overload the unit with too much detergent so I ended up trying the cascade complete powder detergent and that combination honestly cleans better then my grandmothers built-in bosch. It even has a fruit cycle. Honestly one of my better recent purchases. 5 stars and highly recommend the Farberware portable dishwasher.
I have one of those Danby countertops (although a different model) and they honestly work fine. In fact, they do an excellent job, even with nasty pots and pans.
They're inexpensive enough where if they break and are out of warranty they're easy enough to replace.
Me too I have the newer model but I've heard of people having like an older model of our brand they last a long time mine was built 3\2020 I got mine for free in September a family was moving to Texas and put it out to the road I snatched that sucker up and plummed the third hole in the sink with a bathroom faucet and plummed in hot and cold You're right they are beautiful they're quiet The only thing is I noticed I use 7th generation liquid detergent non-bleach! It's like seven bucks at Lowe's Your machine will last for years and years and years
I'm a repairman and install many dishwashers, disposers, washers, dryers, and refrigerators. Lately, I'm replacing a lot of two and three year old appliances that were top-of-the-line. There's a lot of instant junk that's being sold to the general public through the big box stores, almost all of the failed components (control boards and pumps) are Chinese.
Within two years my neighbor's Samsung developed a leaking seal that destroyed the motor and leaked through the ceiling in the floor below. It was replaced with a new, all stainless Kitchenaide. My niece's top of the line LG lasted just 3 years before it was replaced with a Kitchenaide.
I personally own a 23 year old all stainless Kitchenaide that was a hand me down. I replaced some of the moving interior parts and it works perfectly. I especially like the soft food disposer that many of the new dishwashers don't offer. It's fast, quiet, and was a gift because a friend bought a Miele with a kitchen remodel. At one point the owner wanted the old Kitchenaide back because she's unhappy with the Miele.
Another friend has a new Bosch and complains about odor. He keeps the filter clean, but there's an odor that Bosch service can't eliminate. He talks about replacing the new Bosch with something else, and sometimes wished he still had his old top of the line Frigidaire.
The tyranny of control electronics. Electro-mechanical all the way. When you start thinking about a dishwasher costing upwards of $800 to $1000 dollars and only lasting 5 years, plus the cost of the detergent packs? That's a pretty bad deal.
🤣 I thought about swapping out and moving with my beloved, year-old Bosch 800 DW when I sold my house, but I decided to buy a new one for my new house. I hope I find a good deal like you did! If not, no worries. Worth every penny. Never thought I'd love a DW so much.
+1 for looking for scratch and dent deals. We found a 7366 model Miele for $1100 because it had a scratch and a slight dent on the front panel. We don’t care, because it’s barely noticeable.
My fave is a kitchen aid we paid a little over 800.00 for. Virtually silent, 3rd rack in the top for big utensils, great looking, cleans EVERUTHING we have put in it, including pans. We LOVE it. Our realtor got a Bosch and is not happy with it. Noisier and he said when you open the door, it smells strongly of rubber like burning tires.
Which KitchenAid model did you get ?
Frigidaire plastic basin over here: there is a hole on the bottom from a warped heating element and it ruined my floor. When your first recommendation was to get metal, it didn't take much more. I'll go without a dishwasher for a bit until we can grab one.
EVERYONE (here, and otherwise!) speaks very highly of Bosch.
I purchased one of the 800 series, and when I open the door after a cycle, the inside stinks! Everytime. And I don't always wash stuff with garlic residue.
I've had several dishwashers over time, and never had this problem!
I recently read something that this is somewhat of a known issue with Bisch, related the the pump not draining completely. I ignore the golen rule of not rinsing - so doubtful this is causing the issue.
Plus, again, no problems, ever, with other brands.
Ant thoughts = suggestions before I swap this out, please?
Thanks!
When I bought my home, the inspector commented on my Samsung dishwasher saying that he had the same model and when it broke, he had a very hard time finding someone who was willing to work on Samsungs, at least in our area. He said that appliance techs don't really like them because they have a history of breaking down not too long after repairs. He said that when they work they're fine, but if it breaks I should probably just replace it instead of paying a few hundred dollars to essentially put it on life support. I'm tempted to replace it now and sell it while it still works.
When I was growing up our dishwasher failed and started flooding our kitchen and I don't really feel like dealing with that. I think that modern dishwashers don't tend to flood kitchens too often, especially since they use less water than those in the early 90's, but I still wouldn't want to go without my dishwasher for more than a week or so.
Nice video! One super important metric I see missing from pretty much EVERY dishwasher review video is interior space. Between brands this can be massive. I originally wanted a Bosch for my new house, until I saw how pathetically small they are inside, and went with a Kitchenaid, which are noticeably larger. Bosch are great units, for sure, but capacity means a lot too.
Better yet, my wife groaned at many of your weird jokes in this video. Bravo!
Ben I truly thank you for all of your wisdom and knowledge you continuously give
have a Kenmore elite that's 22 years old, still cleaning fine, a couple labels on buttons came off but still works, wifey wants a new one, I'm sad sears no long around LOL
I had a Mayatg W10632072A in 2015. Crapped out after 13 months (1 month after warranty) because of the electrical board, which apparently was designed to not be be sealed. steam would leave the dishwasher, and affect the board. Got a new dishwasher from someone else. No idea if this is a problem anymore, but something to look out for.
I had a Whirlpool (eg. Kenmore Elite) for 15 years, and it finally fried itself. I replaced it with a German made Bosch 800 and that thing is amazing. Only two Bosch models available in the US are actually made in Germany. It was a little different in that all of the install videos on RUclips are for the kinds not made in Germany. So far so good as this thing is absolutely silent and cleans like nothing else. I have to put my ear to it to even see that it is running, except for the LED spotlight on the floor.
I had budgeted a set amount for the purchase of a dishwasher... then my wife took charge, after that model was on back order, and upped the ante by $700.00. So we ended up with the best of the best of the best. (MIB reference) It hurt a bit financially, but after almost a year of operation, we're happy with our Bosch.
With honors! Sir!
@@BrianBourgeois- "Captain America, here..." LOL Best W.S. movie.
I have the Bosche 800 series and it is quiet, but the buttons seem to get confused at times and if this one is supposed to have good drying, I'd not like to see a modern dishwasher with bad drying. My ancient Hobart (Kitchen Aid) and the one I grew up with in the 70's were noisier, but they really dried the dishes and the porcelain tub was way better than what passes for steel these days. And reliability? When I moved into my old house and lived there for 15 years, the already very old Hobart kept running the entire time with zero issues. And . . . DRY DISHES. No amount of rinse aids or always instantly very hot water or open doors after the cycle will dry the dishes like the old Hobart.
You are absolutely right, the Bosch 800 series dishwasher is the best. When I had remodel done in my kitchen, I went with the 800 series and its very quite. I forget sometimes the dishwasher is even running until I hear the dishwasher start to drain.
Your content is both helpful and entertaining, well done!
I bought a Danby for my tiny apartment. The same exact machine is sold under multiple brand names, so I have a theory whoever OEMs it actually has a solid design. And indeed it works well. Knock on wood.
My Frigidaire from 2002, white plastic builder grade still going strong. Reminds me of this one in appearance.
I subscribed to your channel. I love your videos. You are quite informative snd know your stuff. I definitely recommend the total stainless steel interior as we have. We have the high end Kitchenaid wirh the three racks snd love it. Its understood that the plastic interiors tend to grow bacteria if not properly taken care of. We had a kitchenaid Superba IV midel prior and it did a fantastic job of cleaning in a much shorter time than alot of the new dishwashers. Not to put LG down, but Kitchenaid had the quad wash system long before LG. The wash arm on the LG quadwash has a little bit of a different shape. I don't believe the newer Kitchenaid dishwasher has that system anymore. Please continue to keep us well informed. You do a great job!!!
Every person I know who complained about appliances breaking down within the first few months or years of owning, had one thing in common. All the appliances were LG. My bosses LG refrigerator died within 2 years, and his LG dishwasher died at 2 1/2 years. The fridge compressor has been replaced, but the dishwasher wasn’t worth repairing, with the estimate that was given. Another person had a repair person over multiple times for a wash machine leak. She is lucky she has tile floors, another lady I know has wood floors that were damaged from an unseen leak.
I sold and heard complaints for 8 years and Bosch comes miles ahead,I have the 300 model with stainless tub,also no open heater coil for stuff to fall on and burn out.3rd rack is amazing for cleaning small stuff.Also maintenance is key I run a cleaner every month,and clean filter,use rinse aid and Finish tablets,live in Vegas have no softener and my dishes come out spot less.Also my unit has a built in check valve so if the water feed line bursts it will turn water off to unit, which is smart because unit won't burn up,downside valve is another possible failure point.Also look for scratches dents return units,i picked my unit up 6 years ago for 150$,my step sons LG a couple years ago for less then 400$
The "Issue" with Bosch horror stories is that they are probably the #1 brand for dishwashers, sales/volume wise, so you're going to hear more horror stories just due to sheer volume. Where things get dicey are say LG/Samsung/GE where their market share is way lower, and still have tons of horror stories...
@@bensappliancesandjunk not to mention what the sales person sells can add to the problem, originally my Unit came with a pigtail and a junction box to mount to wall ,but kept burning out ,after reaching out to Bosch they didn't have answers, until I found it myself a cord that plugged directly into unit without pigtail or junction box, haven't had issues since.But Lowe's at the time was always selling pigtails I can only imagine how many people had the same issue and gave up.I ask the Bosch Rep to remedy issue with corporate, but naturally no one cares 1 Year is all you get and I don't care how much you spent 😂
@@bensappliancesandjunk I bought a brand new Bosch series 8 today. Interface is on the outside and beautifully done. Well lit. Dishes bone dry and hot and cleaning was also immaculate. I’m not exaggerating. Perhaps I’d put the high end Miele 2nd.
Cheers NZ.
im still rocking a whirlpool that was in my house in 2015 when i bought it.. the owners manual has a 1998 date on it and its still running strongish
I have had 2 Bosch dishwashers. No complaints, replaced the first one because we went with all stainless steel appliances. Sold the first and heard it is still going good. They are a very quiet dishwasher. I Have had the last one over 6 years. I am sold on the Bosch. I also had a Modern Maid and Maytag I really didn’t have any problem with them. They were just not as nice as the Bosch. They get old and we think we need to replace them
What Model did you get ?
Used dishwashers are also a very good option. I’ve bought a few of them before and I’ve had the best experience. Be picky, look for clean dishwashers with what you personally want. We went for a two year old Maytag from 2019 which uses a different wash system that isn’t offered anymore, and it cleans effortlessly & is also very quiet. It’s built extremely well, and has become my favorite dishwasher I’ve had before. Older Bosch models are excellent too my grandparents still have one from 2009 still running flawlessly.
Love your videos and Humor!!! Unloading the Records and paper plates was the best... That chat with the Wife on washing the dishes was pure win!! Thank you
Glad you enjoyed it!
We had old appliances, pretty much never broke down. When they did, I fixed it pretty easy. Then my wife wanted new. So new dishwasher, oven, fridge, washer and dryer. Everything but oven broke down and replaced within 6 years. On my 3rd dishwasher!!! GE broke. Got another GE, broke. Now I’m trying a Bosch 800 🤷♂️ so far so good.
The chart at 15:20 has Cafe and Frigidaire swapped on the left. Which one is lower satisfaction?
More than likely the Frigidaire is higher rated. Ge machines are hot garbage.
That Denby tabletop is also pretty ubiquitous over here in Europe too (I assume it is made by Haier?). Over here they are are rebadged by Electrolux under the Zanussi (freestanding) and AEG (built in) brands, and the likes of Candy and Indesit have also rebadged them in the past. They are also commonly sold under private label brands such as Russell Hobbs and electriQ too.
the one 𝗕𝗜𝗚 thing I prefer with the Maytag/KitchenAid dishwashers is the self cleaning food disposal/filter.
Love the nod to your metal albums in all your videos.
thanks to you're advice. I just bought a 2023 new bosh 500-series. Thanks Ben!
Our KitchenAid KUDR24SE is 26-1/2 yrs old, runs great, and never required service. Racks started rusting several years ago -we replaced the lower one with a rack from a DW a neighbor was discarding, but upper rack is getting pretty bad and now there's some rust in other areas. Racks are crazy expensive, so time to shop. This KitchenAid doesn't owe us anything!
Great presentation, congratulations on the house!
I’m interested in your thoughts on the new countertop inset style of top loads.
Also, what are your thoughts on a smaller commercial unit for home use?
My dishwasher , countertop stove and wall oven have since 91 jenn-air brand looks so classic and kind of looks retro and cool still working and killing it
Hey!
I love your videos! They’re very informative. I was curious to know wat your thoughts were on the Bosch 300 series dishwasher?
My house came with a dishwasher when I moved in 2003. A few years later the bottom had a small crack and I stopped using it. I found used on Craigslist a 11 year old dishwasher that was replaced by a family that remodeled their kitchen and had money. I paid $65.00 for it and it lasted me about 15 years I think? Just tonight it started making strange noises and wasn’t filled with water. I think I got my moneys worth? I can live without one until I find a good deal again on a used. Or if I find a great deal on a new but I’m not spending $500 bucks on one! I can’t afford it right now!
Just bought a used KitchenAid by Hobart KD-16. The only drawback seems to be the sound, but the wattage on the heater is about the same as modern units (1400W), and it seems we don't need to pre-rinse before adding any dishes, so any inefficiencies in water usage pretty much compensate for themselves (assuming 1-2 gpm, 5 minutes of rinsing; 3-6 gal on a new vs 13.5 on the old).
Might have to give Kitchen another look. After 9 years our Maytag fell apart. The top rack glider wheel cracked (warranty), the top sprayer arm no longer oscillated, the board malfunctioned to the point that it never cycled past the wash cycle causing the motor to fail.
I went with a Bosch 300 as a replacement, and against my better judgement I wish that I had at least kept my utensil holder as the one provided is so small that it goes flying around the tub which will likely damage the top sprayer arm. This unit also lacks choppers and a heating element in favor of a filter and condensation drying. The latter is unacceptable. The unit needs a standalone drying cycle.
I’ve read reviews of people being upset about the smart features being that the app requires remote start button confirmation on the unit itself. What’s not explained is for true remote starting the unit requires a hub device. I use an Echo, but I can see why people wouldn’t want one in their home.
I liken this to a BMW or Mercedes in that I’m sure German engineering used plastics where in the U.S. metal used to be preferred for durability sans gaskets, hoses, fluid containers. I assume that repair costs will follow the same trend of being labor extensive.
I have a Whirlpool "Four Forty" SXU440-1. Made in the early 1970's. It has worked well for a long time with a few repairs. Right now it needs a replacement pump but parts availability is a problem.
Entertaining and informative. Personally, we have replaced all of our original GE large appliances with LG, except for the gas range, which is Samsung, since that was what was a REALLY good deal at Lowe's, when I needed to replace. I have had good service from it, except for the lettering around the knobs. My LG dishwasher has performed very well, in the past five years of ownership. Keep up the great work you do...Rip
Another fantastic review from Ben! Thank you so much for these detailed reviews and assessments. Excellent!
We had a Fisher Paykel cabinet-style dishwasher installed, loved it. No issues. Sold the house about 4 years after the install.
Great video can you explain your recommendation of a surge protector? Where do you install it?
Excellent idea to save the motherboard of a dishwasher?
We have an old dishwasher given to us. How do you check for issues before install? After seeing your videos and reading the comments.I think stuff was made way better 20 years ago. Enjoy your content you really save me a lot of money I was going to buy a Samsung electric stove and washer not anymore. Thank you.
Surge protector: Usually the DW used an electrical plug under the sink. Plug a surge protector into that plug, and the DW into the surge protector. Since there is water under the sink, you need to mount the surge protector where it can't get wet like a side wall away from the drains, faucets and water lines.
I have a Frigidaire from 2019. Failures were the items that cost more than the most basic model, control board and a fancy style spray arm. Next model will be either no dishwasher or the most basic model
Bought an LG 4 years ago and it only worked for two weeks! I was lucky the store took it back and bought a Bosch and have had not a single issue in 4 years! From what I've read LG is not good for Dishwashers but they are great for Washers/Dryers. My advice to everybody for Dishwasher is to buy a Bosch.
surge protector story: A cheap plug in surge protector. In 2005 I bought a duet FL washer. In 2007 the control board went out...after multiple service calls trying to figure out what was wrong...the board was replaced. From that day after the board was replaced... I plugged it into a surge protector and here was are almost 19 years and it still works.... is that why? I don't know... But to be fair, my dishwasher is NOT plugged into one and it still works... but it's 10 yrs old...
Thanks!
I bought a GE discontinued floor model from Lowe’s. $1,099 retail. $330 out the door!
NICE!
So far, gotta say my Danby countertop diswasher I have in my RV outperforms the whirlpool one for the house
I don't have a whole house surge protector but I sure bought one for the outlet in which my new clothes washer is plugged. There's one for the microwave, too.
When replacing my dishwasher I really wanted a Bosch 800 series but it was during covid shortages and no one had any idea when I would be able to get one. I ended up getting a Whirlpool that had similar features. We really like it but long term the Bosch would probably have been better.
Very informative. Love the comedy element with the black eye.
If you're buying an 18" dishwasher for a small kitchen, you really won't have much choice. I ended up getting the GE one that matches my range, and it's fine.
I noticed that. 18"s are hard to find
I loved the Dixie plate and buying a house, but not "this one"...
ROFL.
Thank you for the chuckle today.
Happy Thanksgiving and Merry Christmas.
I bought a Whirlpool 4+ yrs ago and its still going strong, stainless steel tub.
Thank you so much for your informative and with humor video! Our 24 years old dishwasher Kenmore by whirlpool doesn’t work anymore. My husband changed ones control board and it worked very well for so long… time to replace:) Bosh what we will be looking for.
blomberg is the same brand as beko btw, they just have a longer warranty but usually are identical models, occasionally they have an extra feature or 2.
Ben I usually agree with you 100% and thank you as usual for all your content, especially the repairs.
When I bought a dishwasher, I was looking for one that heated the wash water in the machine. And also had an upper arm. Don't think they make them any more without these two very important features. So about 8+ years ago, bought a Kenmore, not the very basic, but the one next to it. 250.00 delivered and installed.
I have had a plastic tub with this new one for 8 years, there is no downside, and it is very quiet, To the point that you don't think you turned it on. Metal tubs IMHO, are a delusion to make you think you have a better machine. Wash and rinse cycles are scalding hot but I don't use "sani", and never have. Never use heated drying. But maybe rinse aid, if it is really humid. Forget the dispenser, just add to the final rinse, sometimes. Then open and let it all air dry.
I live in Tampa, so try to cut down on extra heat and humidity.
Maintenance: I clean the filters almost every week, =/-, about every 6 months take both arms off to make sure there is nothing blocking the jets, sometimes there is. Use strong straight citric acid about every 2 months on the longest cycle. This removes every bit of calcium build up and since it is non-toxic, I will run my glasses and flatware with it as well. Followed by "quick rinse", just to be sure. Walmart detergent very bad, Aldi's is good.
I have never used any other of the cycles, always, "normal". I have never had a dirty dish and am confident that the dishes are sanitized.
Cute kid BTW. Thanks again.
I love the way you clean it. I have a four-year old GE 18" which has failed twice now. Have a VERY small kitchen so looking for a better quality 18" or considering a single drawer DW which are still fairly new. I was looking for information before I buy again and appreciate the comments from real people.
Great videos! I was wondering: you mentioned that it is a good idea to use a surge protector for your dishwasher? Is there a GFCI surge protector set up you recommend?
Fisher & Paykel is one that I have had great experience with. With only 2 people in the house and not wanting to wait an entire week to wash dishes the 2 drawers have worked great. Now I bought mine back in 2012 and it was still working in 2022 when I sold the house.
I do appreciate all the good information provided by Ben.
i bought my one back in the 80s and it was a load of crap, it broke down under warranty and after 3 years i replaced it with an aeg. it was 3 times the price but lasted 6 times longer and was a hell of a lot quieter and washed better. like their smart washing machines the first ones were rubbish but they learnt from there mistakes. but l have heard bad things about the haier brand they now sell
I've got the single drawer F&P, washes at 60 degrees Celsius. Wouldn't ever bother with a full-size dishwasher again.
@@jonkvh i only ever use the 30 minute wash in my aeg, works well on glasses plates and pots, but plastic always needs a going over with the tea towel to dry off. you can never have too big a dishwasher, fridge oven or washing machine, you will never ever say l wish l could fit less into it