@@mrbtapir thanks my friend, I love Revocation and literally all of their albums. I live in Costa Rica and we get many south American tours, but none with them yet :(
Since you count 16ths as "1 e an da" and quintuplets as "1 e an da ga" count your septuplets (7) as "1 e an da ga da da" it can kinda be a tongue twister when you count fast but try counting that slow to get the septuplet feel.
Since i saw Anika and Gergo getting crazy on 5 and 7 th3 first things i did once at home has been to play quintuplets and 7tuplets with my bassdrum and after 6 months i can say that my approach is totally changed, 100% with u man, u r great one, thanks for the video
I do a variation of this that I found about a year ago.. the snare hits on the 3, instead of 2 & 4. I usually start at 120bpm and work up to 260bpm - 280bpm within a 5-min stretch before I start playing. And it's an absolutely phenomenal warm-up, as is this one.
Hey Ash, nice video , well appreciated. I'm 69 yo, recreational , resurrected, drummer . I returned to playing as a retirement pleasure after a 50 year hiatus. I played in a Garage Band with HS buddies, in 1966 to 1969, we played and learned together. I recently got "caught up" in trying to play a DB pedal (just bought a Mapex 500TW), for a fun attempt to play a DB pedal. I don't play Metal , but predominately to My Music . So far, i encounter lots of difficulty to transition my left foot from the Hi Hat to the Slave bass pedal? Unfortunately, i am strictly a heel down player. Always were. And now with some spinal / arthritic conditions which limits my mobility, I def can't move my foot over quickly. I probably should give up the Ghost and just practice faster doubles and maybe triples on the single bass pedal. Its funny how i can play with feet quickly sitting at my kitchen table, yet not able to replicate that sitting at the kit. It's difficult to teach An Old Dog New Tricks.... be well all and appreciate any tips
For me, the "pyramid" has always been playing each note value for only one beat of the click. So single quarter note, followed by two 8th notes, followed by three 8th note triplets, and so on up to eight 32nd notes, and then straight back down again. I think this is a very challenging exercise, and one must master switching between arbitrary note values like he mentions before even really making any notable effort on this "pyramid" i describe.
Since I am early, I would request drumeo to make a video on the slide technique with much more details and the tips how to develop control in it. Thank you! :)
This video was really helpful! This exercise is really easy to remember and easy to do at and away from the kit. I specifically struggle with 5's and 7's so I see myself using this one a lot going forward. Thanks!
Thank you so much for an amazing drum lesson. Been a drummer for a long time and never heard of 5s and 7s this I feel is going to open my drumming up alot
Great video. This concept is also known as "rhythmic modulation" You hear bands like Tool use this idea. Techno music uses this a lot too with snare parts.
I've been playing flat foot technique on the bass but to play double bass I have to learn heel-toe for speed but I'm just not getting the speed or control right what do I do ? and also I can't get much control from flat foot technique on single pedal please help me out sir I don't know where to start my single pedal is also small for my foot.what can i do to improve and please do reply or make a video about it should i change my pedal to a bigger one and is there a bigger pedal ?
How much do pedals have to do with it? I swear at tried some pedals at Namm show by Tama and I was able to do almost everything I wanted to do and at home I have these heavy ass pear pedals and I can’t even hold clean syncopated 16ths for too long without fucking up and I usually have a strong pocket with a metronome with doing double bass work
Is it any harder for double bass drums Vs the single bass drum with the double pedals? Seems like nobody uses double bass drums anymore except a few people now.
I use 2 bass drums, 3 mounted and 1 floor.The problem isn't in the playing, it's when the sound person is an asshole and doesn't have enough mics to mike your whole kit. I've only run into one guy that's like that...........luckily. I even spent $400.00 on triggers for my bass drums and the same asshole didn't want me to use them. Basically, it's just like anything music related..........the music part is easy , the personnel is the hard part...........be it , the band members or the sound person, club management, whatever...........when you add the human element to anything, it can all go to shit. 😂😂😂😂😂😂 (When I say the music is easy, I mean, if you put in the practice time, it's easy.)
The problem with this exercise is that you learn to, for example (using numbers to represent the different note values), play 1 to 2 , then 2 to 3, then 3 to 4 and so on. What you don't learn for example is jumping from 1 to 6, or 2 to 5 To do that start a 1 and do 1 to 2 1 to 3 1 to 4 ...... To 8 Next start at 2 2 to 3 2 to 4 Etc Go back an forth between each and make the change perfect. Don't stop that combination till it is.
I would say it doesn't matter too much if you're still a beginner. The level of control it takes to do either whenever you think it's necessary is what really matters, and that takes pure dexterity built through hours upon hours of practice
Blast Beast very hard to tell. There’s only one shot of it from the side. It’s definitely a piccolo snare, maybe about 4” in depth? Was hoping to be able to confirm from the hardware but all I can make out is the die cast hoops. I would venture to say it’s some kind of metal Tama snare? I could be wrong?
I'm not a dbl bd player. However, I am a cyclist. As such, I've always wondered. Has anybody ever applied cyclist clip on shoes to a bd pedal? I've never needed to playing Jazz and "wedding" rock music. Just a thought. Would love to see a video if someone has.
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Great exercise. I have always struggled with the 7 the most. Ash is a killer drummer, hope to see him play live someday
Not sure where you live but Revocation just put a new album out and may be on tour for a fair bit of time. E.g. UK in December.
@@mrbtapir thanks my friend, I love Revocation and literally all of their albums. I live in Costa Rica and we get many south American tours, but none with them yet :(
@@mathcoreable ah preaching to the converted I see :-) hope you get to see them one day. In a small sweaty venue.
I've seen him play live more times than I can count.
Since you count 16ths as "1 e an da"
and quintuplets as "1 e an da ga"
count your septuplets (7) as "1 e an da ga da da" it can kinda be a tongue twister when you count fast but try counting that slow to get the septuplet feel.
Since i saw Anika and Gergo getting crazy on 5 and 7 th3 first things i did once at home has been to play quintuplets and 7tuplets with my bassdrum and after 6 months i can say that my approach is totally changed, 100% with u man, u r great one, thanks for the video
I do a variation of this that I found about a year ago.. the snare hits on the 3, instead of 2 & 4. I usually start at 120bpm and work up to 260bpm - 280bpm within a 5-min stretch before I start playing. And it's an absolutely phenomenal warm-up, as is this one.
This dude always teaches the simplest, yet most useful stuff! Great teacher!
Hey Ash, nice video , well appreciated. I'm 69 yo, recreational , resurrected, drummer . I returned to playing as a retirement pleasure after a 50 year hiatus. I played in a Garage Band with HS buddies, in 1966 to 1969, we played and learned together. I recently got "caught up" in trying to play a DB pedal (just bought a Mapex 500TW), for a fun attempt to play a DB pedal. I don't play Metal , but predominately to My Music . So far, i encounter lots of difficulty to transition my left foot from the Hi Hat to the Slave bass pedal? Unfortunately, i am strictly a heel down player. Always were. And now with some spinal / arthritic conditions which limits my mobility, I def can't move my foot over quickly. I probably should give up the Ghost and just practice faster doubles and maybe triples on the single bass pedal. Its funny how i can play with feet quickly sitting at my kitchen table, yet not able to replicate that sitting at the kit. It's difficult to teach An Old Dog New Tricks.... be well all and appreciate any tips
Cool!! Back in the 80's I was in drum corps and we played a lot of rhythmic scale exercises. I never thought to ad it do my double bass playing!!
Great lesson! I would recommend throwing in quarter note triplets right before the eighth notes if you want to add one more level to it.
For me, the "pyramid" has always been playing each note value for only one beat of the click.
So single quarter note, followed by two 8th notes, followed by three 8th note triplets, and so on up to eight 32nd notes, and then straight back down again.
I think this is a very challenging exercise, and one must master switching between arbitrary note values like he mentions before even really making any notable effort on this "pyramid" i describe.
I've accidentally came up with the same concept myself, but for the right hand, and it is really fun to go up and down the pyramid!
Since I am early, I would request drumeo to make a video on the slide technique with much more details and the tips how to develop control in it. Thank you! :)
They also have the Bass Drum 2.0 module available. It explains, the slide, heel toe, and other techniques in depth!
This video was really helpful! This exercise is really easy to remember and easy to do at and away from the kit. I specifically struggle with 5's and 7's so I see myself using this one a lot going forward. Thanks!
Same here man.
I think most drummers would say the same. you don't see many 5 and 7 counts in mainstream music. its more common in jazz/progressive music
Thank you so much for an amazing drum lesson. Been a drummer for a long time and never heard of 5s and 7s this I feel is going to open my drumming up alot
Awesome... Just started drumming a year ago & now trying my skills @ Double Bassing.. Thax So Much For The Help Ash.. Spooner 🤘🥁💜🌹
The Rhythmic Scale is the last great exercise (all limbs independently doing different sets of rhythms - truly a crazy exercise!)
Awesome! Thank you for sharing this with us! Very well explained, especially at a tempo that's easy to follow! :)
Man this is awesome! I was literally doing this without knowing the techniques and names behind it. I just did it. Great to see this.
I would also recommend playing the backbeat on 3 after you master the 2 and 4.
A version of this worth checking out is in Gary Chaffee's Rhythm & Meter Pattern book pages 16 & 17.
hello, ash very good, thanks for the class
Great video. This concept is also known as "rhythmic modulation" You hear bands like Tool use this idea. Techno music uses this a lot too with snare parts.
I’m definitely going to apply this exercise. I’m just recently starting double bass.
Great lesson!! 👏👍👏👍
Great exercise ! Hope drumeo sooon releases double bass shuffle lesson like he did in the intro of the video !! ❤️❤️ much love from nepal !!
These few number of dislikes are pure jealousy.
You’re right. People come here to learn how to play drums better and hey dislike it solely on the fact of jealousy. You’re fucking brilliant! 🤣🤣🤣
It’s like to can’t always please everyone!
A portion of this is used in Tool - the Grudge, which is awesome. But it’s also over a 5/4 meter which is sick as ballsssssss
This was a very helpful video. Great post!
Can we all appreciate the sound of that bass drum?
Thumbnail looks like Mac was about to show me how to double bass. Lmao (It’s always Sunny in Philadelphia)
Packin on some mass!
Great exercise
Love this! I use it all the time ❤😃😃😃🤘
Thomas Lang featured this exercise on his Creative Control DVD from 15 years ago or so.
That is so creative. Thank you for the video
Such a sick lesson!!
*what a drummer what a class god gifted boy*
Excellent exercise!!
Thank you : )
Can you do the left foot without doing the right foot on the floor?
Great video thanks man!!
Really wish there was a print out for this!
I've been playing flat foot technique on the bass but to play double bass I have to learn heel-toe for speed but I'm just not getting the speed or control right what do I do ? and also I can't get much control from flat foot technique on single pedal please help me out sir I don't know where to start my single pedal is also small for my foot.what can i do to improve and please do reply or make a video about it should i change my pedal to a bigger one and is there a bigger pedal ?
This is nutty tough
thanks..... dude..... I learn a lot....
your super awesome....!!!
Great lesson
Cool... Tip 🔝 😃
On the left side there was an edit that threw the swing of the pulse off. It almost seems as if it was sped up 1bpm.
Wait drumeo headquarters is in Abbotsford? That's like a half hour away from where I live..
Hey when are y’all gonna have CARTER BEAUFORD on drumeo
that is a great idea.
Those 5 and 7 subdivisions are hard to do. You don't hear them used very much either. Well done.
hmmmmm
I did encounter it,
never thought about developing that.
thx for sharing that man,
awesome !
❤❤
How much do pedals have to do with it? I swear at tried some pedals at Namm show by Tama and I was able to do almost everything I wanted to do and at home I have these heavy ass pear pedals and I can’t even hold clean syncopated 16ths for too long without fucking up and I usually have a strong pocket with a metronome with doing double bass work
Thank you sir
ILLUMINATY CONFIRMED
Lol
Is it any harder for double bass drums Vs the single bass drum with the double pedals? Seems like nobody uses double bass drums anymore except a few people now.
I use 2 bass drums, 3 mounted and 1 floor.The problem isn't in the playing, it's when the sound person is an asshole and doesn't have enough mics to mike your whole kit. I've only run into one guy that's like that...........luckily.
I even spent $400.00 on triggers for my bass drums and the same asshole didn't want me to use them.
Basically, it's just like anything music related..........the music part is easy , the personnel is the hard part...........be it , the band members or the sound person, club management, whatever...........when you add the human element to anything, it can all go to shit. 😂😂😂😂😂😂
(When I say the music is easy, I mean, if you put in the practice time, it's easy.)
@@troymartinez3923 well said. I totally agree. 👍
Really curious on how much time you have to spend on practicing this exercise to be proficient.
When are you getting Steve Gadd on the show? Would be super awesome!
The problem with this exercise is that you learn to, for example (using numbers to represent the different note values), play 1 to 2 , then 2 to 3, then 3 to 4 and so on.
What you don't learn for example is jumping from 1 to 6, or 2 to 5
To do that start a 1 and do
1 to 2
1 to 3
1 to 4
...... To 8
Next start at 2
2 to 3
2 to 4
Etc
Go back an forth between each and make the change perfect. Don't stop that combination till it is.
Hey Ash will there ever be an Angelgrinder reunion show?
Badass Ash
The question is: do you keep the beaters on the head after each hit or not?
I would say it doesn't matter too much if you're still a beginner. The level of control it takes to do either whenever you think it's necessary is what really matters, and that takes pure dexterity built through hours upon hours of practice
If your putting alot of time into double pedal, dont forget to rest dude! =)
@@DINGDONGDANIEL3 I was trying double bass but I found it hard to keep my balance if I play heel-up not burying the beater.
@@viktor.ozerov I'm the same
I can do this with the video but when it comes to memorizing it on my own for the 5 and 7s I'm lost
thanks!!
Cool exercise...but what about single pedal drummer?
A cheeky bit of Profanum Vulgus right at the beginning there?
what snare is he playing?
Blast Beast very hard to tell. There’s only one shot of it from the side. It’s definitely a piccolo snare, maybe about 4” in depth? Was hoping to be able to confirm from the hardware but all I can make out is the die cast hoops. I would venture to say it’s some kind of metal Tama snare? I could be wrong?
@@drumfanatik316 yeah first i thought its a tama metalworks 14x4 but the lugs look different
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Muy buen ejercicio
How much for that drum set man
questo esercizio lo spiegava Thomas Lang anni fa!!!
Sheet music PDF download?
What's an Ostanato
It's an Italian car.
It's just a word for a repeating pattern.
It's not a pyramid. It's a reverse funnel!
I always screw up on 3s, 5s, and 7s
I'm not a dbl bd player. However, I am a cyclist. As such, I've always wondered. Has anybody ever applied cyclist clip on shoes to a bd pedal? I've never needed to playing Jazz and "wedding" rock music. Just a thought. Would love to see a video if someone has.
I thought you gonna say that you saw it there LOL
I actually prefer the slower tempos some of the best music has been made around using slower tempos the speed metal thing has been overdone
Quarter note triplets when?
Why no tab
I also go to learn jazz sir
Dude reminds me of mac from it's always sunny 😂 ...good drummer though 👍
I just can't get into my leeggsss, please helpp :(
Why is it that you look very similar to actor Paul Rudd? Haha
Tah-mah....
Finally,,he got rid off those awful puma ripped off shoes..
Damn I'm early
Wait his name is Ass Peircin? What the f 😆😆😆
do you even know what your explaining. sorry cause your said alot of the word soooooooo and its not a good thing