We all hated Woolsey, but he was one of the SGC's best allies. He kept many wolves from the door and kept recommending the SGC continued to receive funding. He wasn't on the front lines, he was always behind the scenes, he crossed paths and butted heads with the SGC again and again, but he was never vindictive, he never pushed his own agenda or played favorites, he stuck to his principles and never once broke them, even when it meant he made enemies
You didn't always agree with the decisions he made, but there are times when you can tell that he's just someone trying to do what he thinks is right and just needs more info to make a better decision.
One day the Stargate will have to be revealed to the public. Woolsey’s objective POV would only benefit its reveal, as he took the SGC and star gate programme,and held it up to proper scrutiny outside of a military and political framework. He may have said things people didn’t like, but he never overstated a case. He analysed, assessed, and formed a conclusion that he would back because his investigation made him think his conclusions were right… and considering he had a broad POV, stating the people should know what they funding, that they aren’t getting benefits from the programme, the risks, and even when he spoke to the president that SHc members who underwent extreme stress weren’t even offered a few sick days… his concern is well hidden, his calculus cold. But he was always concerned about the people whose voices he thought were not heard.
@@davidlewis5312 At the time with the information available it was the right choice to make. Remember SGC constantly kept him out of the loop so he had to make choices based on the limited data he had. As such he won't be 100% of the time correct. It's easy for us to judge with hindsight
In this Episode, the whole SG Center behaves like naive Kids, just dodging the Question of Secrets and Reveals. So dump! We should just have Gotten this Movie about the Reveal of the Stargate. That's what 'we' lack!
Each doing their best to get across their own views/opinions of the case. Both doing a good job. Richard Picardo does a great job at being as big a bad guy as one can be.
Woolsey, the IOA man we loved to hate up until he realized the NID were bad guys and became a man we disliked up until he was placed in command of Atlantis and we all fell in love with him.
Woolsey certainly gets a lot of character development, especially for a character who only appeared a handful of times throughout the show at least until he was turned into a main character for Atlantis. Unlike Senator Kinsey who only ever wanted to gain political power, Woolsey had legitimate concerns about the Stargate program. We learn over time that despite coming off as an abrasive jerk, he was a man of principle. Even if you didn't like him you could still respect him.
He's no wimp that's for sure. He stood right up to Hammond and told him off to his face while looking him in the eye. At least he's not in it for a power grab.
This is one of the many reasons I love SG-1. Woolsey was written to be a one-off minor antagonist for this episode, and not only did Robert Picardo knock it out of the park (as usual), but then the writers doubled down on the quality acting by bringing him back, allying him with the heroes (though his motives never *actually* change because Woolsey's heart was always in the right place) and making him almost a main character. Superb show in every respect.
The thing about Woolsey that I liked is that even when he was one of the "asshole humans" on this show (see Maybourne, Kinsey, Simmons, ect), you could actually see where Woolsey is coming from. Yeah, he's a bit of a hardliner but at the same time the things he's arguing for are not bad things. Greater government transparency, weighing the value of war, making reasoned decisions based upon cost-benefit rather than personal agendas, these are not inherently bad things. While the likes of Kinsey and Simmons were looking purely for their self interests, you kind of get the feeling that Woolsey genuinely believes in the ideals he talks about. And I think it's best exemplified here at 0:59. After he's made his case for why he's doing what he does, Woolsey stands up to Hammonds level. He doesn't shy away or cower or try to stand above Hammond in position of power, he comes to Hammond's level as an equal, albeit opposed to him. That I think was our first sign this was not just "another asshole human" but a character who actually has ground to stand on despite at first standing opposite our heroes. And while he eventually came around to team Stargate Command (heck, he was eventually put in charge of the entire Atlantis operation), it's interesting to note he never fully lost his pragmatic attitude. But over time he also got a chance to flesh out his view on the value of human life, the seed of which we see here. Yeah, you may want to save one person but is it worth it to endanger ten people to try to save the one. The answer isn't necessarily always "no," but it's still a question you need to weigh for yourself depending on the situation. Which frankly made him pretty good as a politician/commander character, and I can see why he was such a long lasting recurring character.
The 'trolley car' experiment... Have a look at Vsause, he did an episode where they recreated that experiment. I think if I'd been one of the subjects, I may have punched him in the face at the end. For me, it was a really difficult video to watch.
Well that's the mark of a good villain. You can see where they're coming from and they think that they are right. Woolsey started out as thoroughly unlikeable a bit-villain to play opposite Davis. And slowly, over several recurring guest spots, they redeemed his character to the point where they could credibly put him in charge of Atlantis without causing a mass mutiny. Acting out that redemption arc takes skill and good writing, Picardo and the writers pulled it off in spades.
@@imofage3947 Woolsey was an antagonist but never a villain. The worst that Woolsey does to any of the protagonists is be rude to them. Certainly he disagreed with them in many instances but his characterization as a threat to the SGC is mostly in how General Hammond sees Woolsey rather the reality of who Woolsey is and what he believes. Which I think doubles down on how interesting the episodes with Woolsey are. Hammond (and the military-types) see Woolsey as a threat, and an enemy, but Woolsey does not see Hammond as an enemy. Which always raised the question in my mind, which one of them was really the bad guy? In many ways Hammond was really the villain in his interactions with Woolsey...
I'm surprised he hasn't seen the cost benefit of the advance ships that help protect earth as well as future colonization as well as massive resources of hundreds of discovered planets along with ancient tech from many species as well as getting new technology from currently alive races.
@@deltaboy2011 Based on some of his dialogue, I think he's looking only at direct benefits that civilians will see and recognize. At this point in his character arc, he's mostly a snooty bean counter.
SPOILER ALERT: Woolsey was among the most interesting minor characters of the series. The next episode he was in with Hammond was where he came to Hammond looking for evidence against Kinsey. Hammond gave him a tape saying "I didn't know who I could trust. I still don't." Woolsey slowly became an ally of the Stargate program, eventually becoming a leader at odds against the IOA and risking himself to rescue Atlantis team members and even Earth itself. This is a well-written character and credit to the writers as well as the top talent actor they were lucky enough to land for it.
I think the long term investment into the Stargate program payed off. I mean, Hyperdrive technology was good. But the entire knowledge base of the Asgard and the secrets of Atlantis? Priceless.
@@Kayoss13212 Lost two good ones though - the Tolans by Tannis and the Asgard by blowing themselves up rather than slowly wither away. Of the original 4 Races, there are only 2 - the Nox and the Furlings ( which we have never seen ).
Honestly what turned my opinion of Woolsey around was the episode inauguration when he explains to hammond's how he picks a side and gathers data to build a case without any agenda whatsoever
Yeah he knew that Kinsey was playing the political game with shadow figures funding his moves. ;) Like Stannis, he was working in the shadows to get what he wanted and little by little he became better. Carter explained in the Scourge that they are not here to babysit or comfort them, they are there to protect them no matter what. That is their job, and in SGA The Seer, he asked how she knew the hives would fire at each other and she said, "I didn't." That is what it is. Luck. Of course that depends on how you define it.
@@BlackDiamond2718 In inauguration when he is trying to get hammond to hand over the files on Kinsey and he says how he meticulously researched it I truly expected him to say he was wrong which he probably would have in a lesser show. But he surprised me when he said that he stood by his case. But where his biggest concern was whether to people he promised his allegiance were like him. I have a lot in common with Woolsey so I understood him just a bit. Especially when he hands the info to the president hoping he would be seen as a patriot. He may have been a stickler for rules and bureaucracy but he was trying to do the right thing.
The writing of the entirety of the Stargate continuity (excluding SGU) was amazing. Both SG-1 and SGA were filled with excellent actors, and characters that we loved to hate...and then some who we hated to love. Woolsey was one of the latter. And Hammond? We just loved to love him. Godspeed, Hammond of Texas.
Albiet SGU was different to SGA/SG1 but it still had the stargate vibe to it, and it stuck to continuity. Though I didn't really like any of the characters.
@@Meerkat040 Exactly. SGU followed the continuity quite well. I mean, they even went to Jonas's planet because it was established already in season 5 of SG1 that its core consists of naquadria and they had McKay working on the mathematical solution with Eli while Woolsey was with Young trying to convince the Langarans to let them use their gate. Also in the very first episode Carter is piloting her new ship which was already established in season 4 of SGA. So there was plenty of continuity.
It's a pretty fair argument that the US public should probably know about the massive interstellar war their government is involved in, and it's pretty relevant to current events that there should be ways to run investigations on internal affairs of government branches to see if funds are being misused or embezzled.
Considering that 90% of our tax dollars goes into the pentagon, and the sandbox doesent really have a chance against the weapons that we DO KNOW about. It makes you wonder where all that money goes................................................... perhaps the SGC really does exist.......................
Robert Picardo is such a great actor. Loved him on Voyager, but he’s so different on Stargate that I don’t even see the actor, just the character. Really glad they gave him something of a “redemption arc” on SGA.
i would like to see a more expansive universe that doesn't just focus on one team or set of people i wanna know what all the other teams are doing and i want to know more about other races and alliances ect.
You know what's meta is the fact that the star trek franchise has been acknowledged as existing multiple times in the sg1 universe and voyager ended only a few years before this episode.
@@alexanderzack3720 Has nothing to do with Star Trek; it's because, at the time of that episode taking place, there already was ship named Enterprise commissioned in the United States military.
I see he picked up his way with words later. 1:15 "if this would be public, you would be fucked" "Wanna make it public?" 1:52 "if you say only one word you will be put into a dark cold place forever" Woolsey, you gonna stand your ground and not change your stance on the fly.
I do think that is adorable. Woolsey: public perception and accountability Hammond: why don't we show them your callous report? Woolsey: that's classified
I always liked Woolsey. He may not behave like sg1 or the General but he kept his morals and integrity, he warned them about the possibility of a presidential assassination for that very reason. It didn't matter about the money or if he got away from it scot free, it was about what mattered to him, what he believed. His threat to Hammond in this scene is simply him stating a cold hard fact! Hammond had information he wasn't legally privy to and was threatening what could essentially be treason if he couldn't get his way, Woolsey was just pointing out where his loyalties lay and what actions he was willing to take to ensure he stood by his own rulebook regardless of if he agreed with Hammond
"it is reprehensible that the taxpayers of this country are paying enormous sums of money to wage a war they know nothing about and are getting little if anything in return" How unfortunately topical for America as a country.
@@DarkNexarius Atomizing a body is an effective way of hiding it which I'm sure is what the creation of the event horizon of the wormhole does. At least in terms of Stargate logic.
Don't forget Hammond of Texas can make a person disappear even easier by just dialing a star gate address, throwing Woosley through and then closing it for good. Hammond could always be rescued by any and all SG teams, who would come to Woosley's rescue?
@@GoranXII A major national operation that doesn't exist except for a line item in a black budget. There are any number of ways to get rid of Woolsey without arousing suspicion.
As much as Woolsey had a point, I feel like the long term investment was worth it. I mean, just think of the advancements they’ve made. They’ve got spaceships and freaking Atlantis. Not only that, but also the allies that they’ve gained alone, simply on good faith.
Once declassified, the SGC will provide the Earth with: Several Colonies in the former Alpha Sites Galaxy jumping FTL drives Allies across 2 galaxies medical technologies decades to centuries ahead of regular earth medicine Scientific discoveries that will put the Nobel Prizes of the last century to shame I'd say that's a long term payoff.
At this point, however, they had a war, two doomsday scenarios and some fancy sticks with a really good battery. There was no reason to trust that it'd all be better eventually. Sure, they lucked out, but they might've just been shot to bits before they so much as built a functional interceptor
@@Knowbody42 They did similar with Maybourne, too. It's good storytelling, honestly. Sometimes the adversary isn't really that bad, but instead misguided and can come around. It's a valuable lesson on keeping on open mind, as not doing that is why they were adversaries and the fact that some people can change with a new perspective which is often something people forget these days.
@@InfernosReaper Maybourne never turned out to be a good anything though? He's a bad King with many Wifes now. He's a bad Person. Was and will ever be.
"Heroes" was a great two-parter with many memorable scenes. This is one of them; both sides have valid points, even though they stand in opposition to each other. Same goes for the documentary film crew. Both them and Woolsey get in the way and disrupt the SGC in various ways, but their actions are entirely justified, well argued, and most importantly, honest.
In general, I wonder if Don S. Davis ever acted like General Georg Hammond in real life. I've watched several interviews with him but it would have been an honor to meet him. Rest In Peace Hammond of Texas.
As much as I disliked Woolsey in the beginning I never hated him; as much as I loath to admit it he did make a lot of valid points and made an effort to learn and grow over time. His failing in the beginning was to approach things from a cold, detatched and bureaucratic perspective and not look at things from the other side. In the end, he showed that he was a good man underneath it all and did the right thing when it came down to the wire
Crazy to see how Woolsey evolved over this and Atlantis. He went from sniveling little weasel we couldn't stand to sniveling little weasel we all cheered for.
Best example comes a little later. Like when he's sitting in on Kinsey ranting about the SGC to the newly sworn-in president, and in particular attacks O'Neill and Carter. Woolsey is visibly uncomfortable by pure proxy about having to hear that kind of slander thrown about. And obviously later on, when Kinsey is straight up about his willingness to have the president offed, he goes back to Hammond for evidence to take Kinsey down. Carter later summaries him nicely in an episode of Atlantis. "Of the sharks in the pool, he's the one least likely to actually bite."
@@Jokie155 actually, it was Dr. Weir and she said, "Of all the Wolves in the pack, he's the one least likely to actually bite. He might even get the others to back off."
does woolsey not realise that if the SGC is being documented than classified isnt as strong a protection as he thinks it is when it comes to that document.
0:32 "I won't bother asking how you got that." Uhh, he's a two star general in charge of the black budget project that you wrote the memo about. How did you not think he'd find out about it?
I know he's painted as the antagonist here, but Woolsey wasn't necessarily wrong, especially about how insanely unethical it was for the US to be waging a shadow war its citizens knew nothing about. But of course this show couldn't dare put military personnel in a bad light or else they'd lose a big chunk of propaganda money they were getting from the USAF.
Indeed he does, i mean there is a reason all these politician villains are trying to shut down SGC, its because from their prespective, its a huge money sink, they only know what is said in the report, in their eyes, U.S has gained barely anything from SG program. Of course once USAF got themself some space ships, SG program became worth it.
Woolsey is right to point out that Stargate Command is an expensive proposition. Be interesting to see if the technologies being developed at Area 51 justify the cost. (I think they would).
Imagine if general industry of the entire planet would have access to the mighty alien tech that the various government know exist, never the entire goa'uld or wraith fleet would stop Terran thirst for conquest.
I feel like the follow up to the "I'll be sure to bury you in a cold dark place." should have been "at least I'll go there with my dignity intact, better yet I'll take you with me."
I really don't dislike Woolsey's actions. He's asking the hard questions to keep the SGC honest. With the amount of cowboy diplomacy being done by SGC officers with little to no oversight for the first few years in the name of the US and eventually the world, transperancy is absolutely essential. The consequences of SGC fuckups or someone with less of a moral compass than the NID or the Trust going rogue could lead to the death of Earth. As long as there is transparency Woolsey would support them but he is a necessary evil that has to ask the hard questions.
What Woolsey doesn't realize with the threat that he told MG Hammond is that if Major General Hammond snapped his finger, he could make Mr Woolsey disappear for the rest of his life.
Say if circumstances did came to Hammond being put a way in a cold dark place, then say the Stargate Program was blown out tot the public, Would they release him or still keep Hammond secretly locked up?
It's not weird. As I've grown up, I have come to realize that the idea of a military monopoly on a secret *taxpayer funded program* that has the potential to wipe out all life on Earth is absurd.
And besides it isn’t like they could just bury their heads in the sand with the threats out there and their capabilities Pandora’s box was opened and we have to reap the consequences
@@demontooth0428 Yeah I would hope they tried to recover him, but us military doctrine is we don't leave anyone behind even guys who died in wars long ago we still try to get them back
Am I the only SG fan that never grew to like Woolsey? Later when Daniel was a prior Woolsey suggests that they either kill or freeze Daniel, but he wanted to keep the clone of Anubis. I can't like SGA season 5 because of Woolsey
@@slevinchannel7589 But his motives are everything. He wasn't going outside of the system, and it could have been more of a warning to remind him to not break the rules. It's not like he knows Hammond the way the viewers do. Also, Hammond and O'Neill have made more questionable comments and decisions before and we still love them.
The secretecy of the sgc program is absolutely unsustainable even in the Stargate universe, if they disclosure everything in one of the first series they would have earned so much more in every terms
Kinsey probably kept that way so it could still be under his thumb via the NID. Of course, Kinsey never expected the unmovable rocks that were the morals of Hammond and SG1.
There is a lot of stuff implied to have happened behind the scenes, more than a few of the ones who Knew about the SGp wanted it kept secret so that just the Americans or just the higher-ups benefited.
I am still shocked it stayed secret after the battle of Antarctica. That many ships in orbit would be noticeable to every backyard telescope and Anubis flagship, going by its stats, is big enough to be seen in orbit. And they wiped a carrier group! How the hell did they keep it a secret and at that point, why try?
Everyone looks to Star Trek for examples of _Life Imitating Art_ But everyone's missing the *scary* truth... Stargate SG1 and Atlantis ARE *"Art imitating Life"* And every time something new gets dropped by the pentagon or there is a new "disclosure moment"... I find the need to revisit some of these Stargate moments... Especially the ones with *Woolsey* (There really is a Woolsey that headed up both CIA and then DHS.)
There's also an *asteroid* due for near earth flyby in 2039 (or something close) ... A potential world killer... Guess what's its called? I'll give you a clue, HE tries to kill everyone on the show and enslave humanity (again)...
I hated Woolsey at first but I understood his opinion. The SGC was expensive and it could be argued is it even worth it? Earth got put on the map of the galaxy and there were a lot of nasty enemies like the Goa'uld and the Replicators at this point. The gains? Maybe some allies and friendships an X303 that barely worked and maybe 20-30 F-302s. He was right the public wasn't seeing any benefits and there were a lot of dangers. Earth almost got conquered or destroyed several times by now and Anubis didn't even show up yet with his fleet. Woolsey wasn't being political he was being honest. But in the long run humanity benefited and gained technology and let's face it the Goa'uld would have shown up eventually. But with the stargate the planet was better prepared. When put in command of Atlantis he realized that it wasn't just numbers and sometimes its just about doing the right thing. In the long run the Milkyway was freed from the Goa'uld empire the jaffa were free and established a government, the replictors were wiped out. The ori destroyed and a crusade stopped. The wraith were crippled and entered into a treaty with the Tauri to divide Pegasus more than the ancients could achieve.
I think this is the one time that Woolsey is a bit hypocritical. He boast about how the taxpayers are getting nothing in return for the secret war they know nothing about, but as soon as General Hammond suggest that they inform the public he becomes concerned with keeping it top secret.
If he thinks the money spent on the SGC is any big deal he knows nothing about the military-industrial complex .. The DOD can't account for well over $10 trillion and some estimate as much as $21 trillion .. What's a few million.. Billions in CASH disappear in Iraq
@@EsquilaxM a drop in the bucket for the DOD ..they make trillions disappear ever yr.. It is estimated the DOD can't account for at least 10 trillion to 20 trillion dollars...as one representative said the DOD is why the government can't balance the checkbook ...the $710+ billion budget is more than EVERY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD spends on defense...so a couple billion is chump change to the DOD
Don't forget the unfunded liabilities - $122 trillion in payments the government owes and has promised its citizens, this far surpasses what the Military has squandered and lost.
One has to sort of ask the question: would we have been better off NOT opening the Stargate? I would have to agree that what we have gained out weighs the costs. Now, how many people do you know could handle being informed that hey, guess what? We are not alone in the Galaxy! There are others out there! And not only that but there are empires and wars being fought out there! And humanity are just cattle to them! Insignificant! Yeah... I love Stargate, it is lots of fun and adventure ☺️
Well for one thing, we spend billions on our military so even then it is already bad business to go to war. But we still go to war nonetheless. In terms of making the program public, this is not star trek. People will panic and try to interfere as people have with previous wars. This is not about some war for resources or religion, this is survival and freedom. That is why it is classified.
So in the end Earth ended up getting all the knowledge and history of the Asgard. The most advanced race in the universe, besides the ancients. Yeah i would say that no matter how much it cost to run the Stargate program, it paid off.
I think Woolsey has a great point, although it was perhaps not that greatly articulated here. Stargate Command costs resources, public resources, which are finite. So one *has* to ask the question wether these resources are effectively allocated. Saving one person's life is a good and honorable thing to do. However, how many more lifes could be saved if that money would went elsewhere? How many schools could be build, children be fed or medical bills be paid with the that same amount of money? This is *not* a "trolley problem" scenario where you would purposefully throw one person *that would otherwise be safe* under the bus in order to save another. The bus is coming for everyone, regardless of what you do. You can save one person, or you can save ten other people. *This* is the question how much good you could do with the limited amount of resources that you have.
please state the nature of the economic emergency
I like that.
Computer, activate the emergency economic holographic program.
Damn it George, I'm an economist, not a doctor!
Haha gold comment xD
The E.E.H.?
We all hated Woolsey, but he was one of the SGC's best allies. He kept many wolves from the door and kept recommending the SGC continued to receive funding.
He wasn't on the front lines, he was always behind the scenes, he crossed paths and butted heads with the SGC again and again, but he was never vindictive, he never pushed his own agenda or played favorites, he stuck to his principles and never once broke them, even when it meant he made enemies
You didn't always agree with the decisions he made, but there are times when you can tell that he's just someone trying to do what he thinks is right and just needs more info to make a better decision.
Yeah, another art long forgotten - to create meaningful, almost emphatic antagonist, not cartoonish villain.
One day the Stargate will have to be revealed to the public. Woolsey’s objective POV would only benefit its reveal, as he took the SGC and star gate programme,and held it up to proper scrutiny outside of a military and political framework.
He may have said things people didn’t like, but he never overstated a case. He analysed, assessed, and formed a conclusion that he would back because his investigation made him think his conclusions were right… and considering he had a broad POV, stating the people should know what they funding, that they aren’t getting benefits from the programme, the risks, and even when he spoke to the president that SHc members who underwent extreme stress weren’t even offered a few sick days… his concern is well hidden, his calculus cold. But he was always concerned about the people whose voices he thought were not heard.
@@davfree9732 he also wanted to execute Daniel and make friends with Anubis's demon spawn
@@davidlewis5312 At the time with the information available it was the right choice to make. Remember SGC constantly kept him out of the loop so he had to make choices based on the limited data he had. As such he won't be 100% of the time correct. It's easy for us to judge with hindsight
Two great actors, just acting.
No fancy effects. Just acting.
In this Episode, the whole SG Center behaves like naive Kids, just dodging the Question of Secrets and Reveals. So dump!
We should just have Gotten this Movie about the Reveal of the Stargate. That's what 'we' lack!
Each doing their best to get across their own views/opinions of the case. Both doing a good job. Richard Picardo does a great job at being as big a bad guy as one can be.
@@55Quirll Robert Picardo, but agreed otherwise
@@BFCrusader Thanks for the correction. Take care now.
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Wish I was as cool as you.
Woolsey, the IOA man we loved to hate up until he realized the NID were bad guys and became a man we disliked up until he was placed in command of Atlantis and we all fell in love with him.
Isn't that the truth lol
Woolsey certainly gets a lot of character development, especially for a character who only appeared a handful of times throughout the show at least until he was turned into a main character for Atlantis. Unlike Senator Kinsey who only ever wanted to gain political power, Woolsey had legitimate concerns about the Stargate program. We learn over time that despite coming off as an abrasive jerk, he was a man of principle. Even if you didn't like him you could still respect him.
He's no wimp that's for sure. He stood right up to Hammond and told him off to his face while looking him in the eye. At least he's not in it for a power grab.
Hammond was 10x the man he ever was
@@vertie2090 yeah, he eat to much :D
This is one of the many reasons I love SG-1. Woolsey was written to be a one-off minor antagonist for this episode, and not only did Robert Picardo knock it out of the park (as usual), but then the writers doubled down on the quality acting by bringing him back, allying him with the heroes (though his motives never *actually* change because Woolsey's heart was always in the right place) and making him almost a main character. Superb show in every respect.
There is a reason why he "turned" on Kinsey. Woolsey never changed, his beliefs stayed the same.
Woolsey has one hell of a character arc over the course of the 2 shows he is in.
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Yeah, he was in one episode of Universe.
The thing about Woolsey that I liked is that even when he was one of the "asshole humans" on this show (see Maybourne, Kinsey, Simmons, ect), you could actually see where Woolsey is coming from. Yeah, he's a bit of a hardliner but at the same time the things he's arguing for are not bad things. Greater government transparency, weighing the value of war, making reasoned decisions based upon cost-benefit rather than personal agendas, these are not inherently bad things. While the likes of Kinsey and Simmons were looking purely for their self interests, you kind of get the feeling that Woolsey genuinely believes in the ideals he talks about.
And I think it's best exemplified here at 0:59. After he's made his case for why he's doing what he does, Woolsey stands up to Hammonds level. He doesn't shy away or cower or try to stand above Hammond in position of power, he comes to Hammond's level as an equal, albeit opposed to him. That I think was our first sign this was not just "another asshole human" but a character who actually has ground to stand on despite at first standing opposite our heroes.
And while he eventually came around to team Stargate Command (heck, he was eventually put in charge of the entire Atlantis operation), it's interesting to note he never fully lost his pragmatic attitude. But over time he also got a chance to flesh out his view on the value of human life, the seed of which we see here. Yeah, you may want to save one person but is it worth it to endanger ten people to try to save the one. The answer isn't necessarily always "no," but it's still a question you need to weigh for yourself depending on the situation. Which frankly made him pretty good as a politician/commander character, and I can see why he was such a long lasting recurring character.
The 'trolley car' experiment... Have a look at Vsause, he did an episode where they recreated that experiment. I think if I'd been one of the subjects, I may have punched him in the face at the end. For me, it was a really difficult video to watch.
Well that's the mark of a good villain. You can see where they're coming from and they think that they are right. Woolsey started out as thoroughly unlikeable a bit-villain to play opposite Davis. And slowly, over several recurring guest spots, they redeemed his character to the point where they could credibly put him in charge of Atlantis without causing a mass mutiny. Acting out that redemption arc takes skill and good writing, Picardo and the writers pulled it off in spades.
@@imofage3947 Woolsey was an antagonist but never a villain. The worst that Woolsey does to any of the protagonists is be rude to them. Certainly he disagreed with them in many instances but his characterization as a threat to the SGC is mostly in how General Hammond sees Woolsey rather the reality of who Woolsey is and what he believes. Which I think doubles down on how interesting the episodes with Woolsey are. Hammond (and the military-types) see Woolsey as a threat, and an enemy, but Woolsey does not see Hammond as an enemy. Which always raised the question in my mind, which one of them was really the bad guy? In many ways Hammond was really the villain in his interactions with Woolsey...
I'm surprised he hasn't seen the cost benefit of the advance ships that help protect earth as well as future colonization as well as massive resources of hundreds of discovered planets along with ancient tech from many species as well as getting new technology from currently alive races.
@@deltaboy2011 Based on some of his dialogue, I think he's looking only at direct benefits that civilians will see and recognize. At this point in his character arc, he's mostly a snooty bean counter.
SPOILER ALERT: Woolsey was among the most interesting minor characters of the series. The next episode he was in with Hammond was where he came to Hammond looking for evidence against Kinsey. Hammond gave him a tape saying "I didn't know who I could trust. I still don't." Woolsey slowly became an ally of the Stargate program, eventually becoming a leader at odds against the IOA and risking himself to rescue Atlantis team members and even Earth itself. This is a well-written character and credit to the writers as well as the top talent actor they were lucky enough to land for it.
He also argued they should execute Daniel at one point
Well you have to hand it to him, Woolsey isn't a wimp. He looked Hammond right in the eye and told him off.
Don S. Davis was a goddamn legend.
Yes sir. I wanted to smack Woolsey when he threatened Hammond of Texas.
I think the long term investment into the Stargate program payed off. I mean, Hyperdrive technology was good. But the entire knowledge base of the Asgard and the secrets of Atlantis? Priceless.
And let’s also not forget the allies that they’ve gained, simply on good faith.
@@Kayoss13212 "We need them more than we need their technology." -paraphrased from Jack O'Neill
I think thats why at the last seasons, there werent anymore politicians opposing SG program, it simply started showing signs that it is worth it
@@user-ch1qv4qk4z Well, all those politicians got themselves taken over by the Goa'uld and then destroyed by Prometheus.
@@Kayoss13212 Lost two good ones though - the Tolans by Tannis and the Asgard by blowing themselves up rather than slowly wither away. Of the original 4 Races, there are only 2 - the Nox and the Furlings ( which we have never seen ).
Honestly what turned my opinion of Woolsey around was the episode inauguration when he explains to hammond's how he picks a side and gathers data to build a case without any agenda whatsoever
Yeah he knew that Kinsey was playing the political game with shadow figures funding his moves. ;) Like Stannis, he was working in the shadows to get what he wanted and little by little he became better. Carter explained in the Scourge that they are not here to babysit or comfort them, they are there to protect them no matter what. That is their job, and in SGA The Seer, he asked how she knew the hives would fire at each other and she said, "I didn't." That is what it is. Luck. Of course that depends on how you define it.
@@BlackDiamond2718 In inauguration when he is trying to get hammond to hand over the files on Kinsey and he says how he meticulously researched it I truly expected him to say he was wrong which he probably would have in a lesser show. But he surprised me when he said that he stood by his case. But where his biggest concern was whether to people he promised his allegiance were like him. I have a lot in common with Woolsey so I understood him just a bit. Especially when he hands the info to the president hoping he would be seen as a patriot. He may have been a stickler for rules and bureaucracy but he was trying to do the right thing.
Gathers Data (!), because he's from Star Trek 🤣
That's a lie. People always have an agenda.
@@fjccommish Everyone might "have an agenda": but not all agendas are malevolent or self serving
The writing of the entirety of the Stargate continuity (excluding SGU) was amazing. Both SG-1 and SGA were filled with excellent actors, and characters that we loved to hate...and then some who we hated to love. Woolsey was one of the latter. And Hammond? We just loved to love him.
Godspeed, Hammond of Texas.
No, you can include SGU. It was real good.
Albiet SGU was different to SGA/SG1 but it still had the stargate vibe to it, and it stuck to continuity. Though I didn't really like any of the characters.
@@Meerkat040 Exactly. SGU followed the continuity quite well. I mean, they even went to Jonas's planet because it was established already in season 5 of SG1 that its core consists of naquadria and they had McKay working on the mathematical solution with Eli while Woolsey was with Young trying to convince the Langarans to let them use their gate.
Also in the very first episode Carter is piloting her new ship which was already established in season 4 of SGA.
So there was plenty of continuity.
It's a pretty fair argument that the US public should probably know about the massive interstellar war their government is involved in, and it's pretty relevant to current events that there should be ways to run investigations on internal affairs of government branches to see if funds are being misused or embezzled.
Considering that 90% of our tax dollars goes into the pentagon, and the sandbox doesent really have a chance against the weapons that we DO KNOW about. It makes you wonder where all that money goes................................................... perhaps the SGC really does exist.......................
@@HighmageDerin It all gets sucked up by contractors double billing and over inflating costs.
@@magusyilie that's what they want you to think.....................
@@HighmageDerin
We wish that wasn't what it was, but unfortunately it probably is just overbilling
@@HighmageDerin You can find The Pentagon Games on RUclips. or maybe it was Pentagon Wars..
This show man. So good. This two parter in particular.
Robert Picardo is such a great actor. Loved him on Voyager, but he’s so different on Stargate that I don’t even see the actor, just the character. Really glad they gave him something of a “redemption arc” on SGA.
I liked Woolsey in this scene, it's where he started to become likeable
They should never do a reboot of this show. It's perfect.
I dunno about that mushroom people episode...
@@Rikard_Nilsson THE SHOW IS PERFECT
i would like to see a more expansive universe that doesn't just focus on one team or set of people i wanna know what all the other teams are doing and i want to know more about other races and alliances ect.
I think a new SGC sequel. Love to see what this earth looks like in 2025
General Hammond, repeat after me: "Computer, deactivate the EMH."
What?
You know what's meta is the fact that the star trek franchise has been acknowledged as existing multiple times in the sg1 universe and voyager ended only a few years before this episode.
@@Jarsia carter: "no sir! we can not name it enterprise."
o´neill: "why not?"
@@Jarsia so the ancients are the Q continuum
@@alexanderzack3720 Has nothing to do with Star Trek; it's because, at the time of that episode taking place, there already was ship named Enterprise commissioned in the United States military.
I just started another re-watch of the whole franchise. You DO NOT mess with Hammond in HIS HOUSE.
Damn! I miss him! Don S Davies as General Hammond was a master stroke in casting.
Wolsey was basically never a villain. An antagonist to be sure but he always had a point. A good one. And stuck to his morals at every turn.
This was some fenomenal acting on both ends.
I see he picked up his way with words later.
1:15 "if this would be public, you would be fucked"
"Wanna make it public?"
1:52 "if you say only one word you will be put into a dark cold place forever"
Woolsey, you gonna stand your ground and not change your stance on the fly.
I do think that is adorable.
Woolsey: public perception and accountability
Hammond: why don't we show them your callous report?
Woolsey: that's classified
It shows how good this episode is. Even the scenes I forgot about are excellent.
I always liked Woolsey. He may not behave like sg1 or the General but he kept his morals and integrity, he warned them about the possibility of a presidential assassination for that very reason. It didn't matter about the money or if he got away from it scot free, it was about what mattered to him, what he believed.
His threat to Hammond in this scene is simply him stating a cold hard fact! Hammond had information he wasn't legally privy to and was threatening what could essentially be treason if he couldn't get his way, Woolsey was just pointing out where his loyalties lay and what actions he was willing to take to ensure he stood by his own rulebook regardless of if he agreed with Hammond
man, you gotta love Hammond!
"it is reprehensible that the taxpayers of this country are paying enormous sums of money to wage a war they know nothing about and are getting little if anything in return" How unfortunately topical for America as a country.
It was topical even at the time. Its allegorical nature is one of the things I admire most about science fiction.
Imagine the balls it takes to threaten the a guy who CAN hide the body where it'll never be found.
The stargate kawoosh can just "remove" the body you don't have to hide it.
@@DarkNexarius Atomizing a body is an effective way of hiding it which I'm sure is what the creation of the event horizon of the wormhole does. At least in terms of Stargate logic.
Don't forget Hammond of Texas can make a person disappear even easier by just dialing a star gate address, throwing Woosley through and then closing it for good. Hammond could always be rescued by any and all SG teams, who would come to Woosley's rescue?
Woolsey is a government employee investigating a major national operation. Killing him will lead to a much deeper investigation.
@@GoranXII A major national operation that doesn't exist except for a line item in a black budget. There are any number of ways to get rid of Woolsey without arousing suspicion.
I'm a Doctor, not a politician.
Dammit Man. I'm a Doctor, not an Accountant
Well actually there he was a politician and a lawyer. I don't think it was possible not to hate that combination.
@@Kalenz1234 political represent people that elect them, so you basically hate yourself
@@FedoReds88 Don't make it so obvious if you try to troll. Learn to be more subtle little kid.
@@Kalenz1234 not trolling, it's a fact.
I only watched "Heroes" once, I never could bare to view it more than that.
I watched it and told my wife she should never watch it and I never went back. It's been 15 years or so.
As much as Woolsey had a point, I feel like the long term investment was worth it. I mean, just think of the advancements they’ve made. They’ve got spaceships and freaking Atlantis. Not only that, but also the allies that they’ve gained alone, simply on good faith.
Once declassified, the SGC will provide the Earth with:
Several Colonies in the former Alpha Sites
Galaxy jumping FTL drives
Allies across 2 galaxies
medical technologies decades to centuries ahead of regular earth medicine
Scientific discoveries that will put the Nobel Prizes of the last century to shame
I'd say that's a long term payoff.
@@danielhaire6677 imagine finding out that your country is centuries ahead of what it looked like to you for the last few years.
At this point, however, they had a war, two doomsday scenarios and some fancy sticks with a really good battery. There was no reason to trust that it'd all be better eventually. Sure, they lucked out, but they might've just been shot to bits before they so much as built a functional interceptor
I loved that they reversed Woolsey's role by SGA. Of course he was, ultimately, a hero.
He was force-fed humble pie, and learned the hard way.
yep. Hammond was 10x the man though regardless of what Woolsey turned out to be
@@Knowbody42 They did similar with Maybourne, too. It's good storytelling, honestly. Sometimes the adversary isn't really that bad, but instead misguided and can come around. It's a valuable lesson on keeping on open mind, as not doing that is why they were adversaries and the fact that some people can change with a new perspective which is often something people forget these days.
Haha, no, he was never a Hero. You're really exaregating him. Calling him a Hero... what Nonsense.
@@InfernosReaper Maybourne never turned out to be a good anything though? He's a bad King with many Wifes now. He's a bad Person. Was and will ever be.
love how much Woolsey's character grew, hell the General grew as well over the years.
Watching Woolsey's first episode again after Atlantis is an experience, isn't it?
"Heroes" was a great two-parter with many memorable scenes. This is one of them; both sides have valid points, even though they stand in opposition to each other. Same goes for the documentary film crew. Both them and Woolsey get in the way and disrupt the SGC in various ways, but their actions are entirely justified, well argued, and most importantly, honest.
In general, I wonder if Don S. Davis ever acted like General Georg Hammond in real life. I've watched several interviews with him but it would have been an honor to meet him. Rest In Peace Hammond of Texas.
As much as I disliked Woolsey in the beginning I never hated him; as much as I loath to admit it he did make a lot of valid points and made an effort to learn and grow over time. His failing in the beginning was to approach things from a cold, detatched and bureaucratic perspective and not look at things from the other side. In the end, he showed that he was a good man underneath it all and did the right thing when it came down to the wire
"Computer, deactivate Woosley hologram."
Woolsey is a good mix of weasely with a backbone and a moral compass. Looks like a 1 dimensional character at a glance, but he has depth to him
Crazy to see how Woolsey evolved over this and Atlantis. He went from sniveling little weasel we couldn't stand to sniveling little weasel we all cheered for.
He was never a sniveling weasel, he actually had principles, which requires a backbone.
Best example comes a little later. Like when he's sitting in on Kinsey ranting about the SGC to the newly sworn-in president, and in particular attacks O'Neill and Carter. Woolsey is visibly uncomfortable by pure proxy about having to hear that kind of slander thrown about. And obviously later on, when Kinsey is straight up about his willingness to have the president offed, he goes back to Hammond for evidence to take Kinsey down.
Carter later summaries him nicely in an episode of Atlantis.
"Of the sharks in the pool, he's the one least likely to actually bite."
@@Jokie155 actually, it was Dr. Weir and she said, "Of all the Wolves in the pack, he's the one least likely to actually bite. He might even get the others to back off."
Bloody good Sean
I knew the guy that played general Hammond when I was a kid, I was guessing they're home for a while. Him and his wife are good people
Beautiful. Did they had kids?
does woolsey not realise that if the SGC is being documented than classified isnt as strong a protection as he thinks it is when it comes to that document.
RIP Hammond and Don. He was awesome.
0:32 "I won't bother asking how you got that." Uhh, he's a two star general in charge of the black budget project that you wrote the memo about. How did you not think he'd find out about it?
Its interesting that the biggest enemy of SGC weren’t the Goauld or wraith. The biggest enemy were the bureaucrats
That's why MIB decided to keep things a secret even from the government, so stuff like this wouldn't happen.
I know he's painted as the antagonist here, but Woolsey wasn't necessarily wrong, especially about how insanely unethical it was for the US to be waging a shadow war its citizens knew nothing about. But of course this show couldn't dare put military personnel in a bad light or else they'd lose a big chunk of propaganda money they were getting from the USAF.
That's my biggest problem with this show despite loving it: the clear (real world) US military influence.
Great antagonist is always great and necessary!
You know as hardless as it may seem Woolsey does have a point
Indeed he does, i mean there is a reason all these politician villains are trying to shut down SGC, its because from their prespective, its a huge money sink, they only know what is said in the report, in their eyes, U.S has gained barely anything from SG program.
Of course once USAF got themself some space ships, SG program became worth it.
That's what makes a great antagonist though.
Woolsey is actually principled.
You don’t leave a man behind we send tier one teams worth millions to risk their lives and rescue people All the time civilians military any American
"Computer; deactivate emergency government lackey hologram"
I never seen this scene before 😮😮😮😮
Hammond is a beast, the epitome of a leader
Woolsey is right to point out that Stargate Command is an expensive proposition. Be interesting to see if the technologies being developed at Area 51 justify the cost. (I think they would).
Ethical subroutines - disabled...
"It's quite disconcerting to know that all someone has to do is flick a switch to turn me into Mr. Hyde."
He's right. The Stargate always should've been public.
Imagine if general industry of the entire planet would have access to the mighty alien tech that the various government know exist, never the entire goa'uld or wraith fleet would stop Terran thirst for conquest.
Especially after getting the Asgard upgrades....mmmm the galaxy would beg for mercy by the many capital ships. XD
The religious right alone would probably have heart attacks en masse.
@@JnEricsonx narrow minded much?
@@stevecollins5487 Realistic and former Catholic.
Wow how True Woolsey's words are
If the Stargate exist. I would be proud having my tax paying money to fund this command. The Truth!
I remember watching this for the first time when it aired and after this scene aired I thought Who the hell would threaten a two-star general?
I feel like the follow up to the "I'll be sure to bury you in a cold dark place." should have been "at least I'll go there with my dignity intact, better yet I'll take you with me."
Talks about the court of public opinion, shuts up when he’s reminded he’d let someone die for budgeting purposes
I really don't dislike Woolsey's actions. He's asking the hard questions to keep the SGC honest. With the amount of cowboy diplomacy being done by SGC officers with little to no oversight for the first few years in the name of the US and eventually the world, transperancy is absolutely essential. The consequences of SGC fuckups or someone with less of a moral compass than the NID or the Trust going rogue could lead to the death of Earth. As long as there is transparency Woolsey would support them but he is a necessary evil that has to ask the hard questions.
What Woolsey doesn't realize with the threat that he told MG Hammond is that if Major General Hammond snapped his finger, he could make Mr Woolsey disappear for the rest of his life.
I would love to see a young general hammond in action
we did......in the episode 1969.
Cold dark place? Hammond should have told him to look around.
This makes me really miss Don S. Davis.
Cutting down on unnecessary - not to mention secretive - military spending? Nowadays, Woolsey would be considered a hero of the people.
Say if circumstances did came to Hammond being put a way in a cold dark place, then say the Stargate Program was blown out tot the public, Would they release him or still keep Hammond secretly locked up?
The wooz aint wrong.
You got space battlecruisers with lazorbeamz. WORTH.
Whos the man you ask lol. Hammonds the man
He's from Texas so...he is always a badass.
It's weird that years later I now side with Woolsey on this.
It's not weird. As I've grown up, I have come to realize that the idea of a military monopoly on a secret *taxpayer funded program* that has the potential to wipe out all life on Earth is absurd.
We don’t leave people behind plain and simple that’s what makes America different
And besides it isn’t like they could just bury their heads in the sand with the threats out there and their capabilities Pandora’s box was opened and we have to reap the consequences
@@Utubesuperstar except for the ambassador on the planet against the aschen.
@@demontooth0428 Yeah I would hope they tried to recover him, but us military doctrine is we don't leave anyone behind even guys who died in wars long ago we still try to get them back
Am I the only SG fan that never grew to like Woolsey? Later when Daniel was a prior Woolsey suggests that they either kill or freeze Daniel, but he wanted to keep the clone of Anubis. I can't like SGA season 5 because of Woolsey
at first, we was not my favorite character, but then later through the franchise he was ok
I could never forget his Threatening Words to Hammon. Never. So i never warmed up with him.
@@slevinchannel7589 But his motives are everything. He wasn't going outside of the system, and it could have been more of a warning to remind him to not break the rules. It's not like he knows Hammond the way the viewers do. Also, Hammond and O'Neill have made more questionable comments and decisions before and we still love them.
The secretecy of the sgc program is absolutely unsustainable even in the Stargate universe, if they disclosure everything in one of the first series they would have earned so much more in every terms
Kinsey probably kept that way so it could still be under his thumb via the NID. Of course, Kinsey never expected the unmovable rocks that were the morals of Hammond and SG1.
There is a lot of stuff implied to have happened behind the scenes, more than a few of the ones who Knew about the SGp wanted it kept secret so that just the Americans or just the higher-ups benefited.
I am still shocked it stayed secret after the battle of Antarctica. That many ships in orbit would be noticeable to every backyard telescope and Anubis flagship, going by its stats, is big enough to be seen in orbit. And they wiped a carrier group!
How the hell did they keep it a secret and at that point, why try?
@@davidlewis5312 realistically unbelievable
Everyone looks to Star Trek for examples of _Life Imitating Art_
But everyone's missing the *scary* truth...
Stargate SG1 and Atlantis ARE *"Art imitating Life"*
And every time something new gets dropped by the pentagon or there is a new "disclosure moment"... I find the need to revisit some of these Stargate moments...
Especially the ones with *Woolsey* (There really is a Woolsey that headed up both CIA and then DHS.)
There's also an *asteroid* due for near earth flyby in 2039 (or something close) ... A potential world killer...
Guess what's its called?
I'll give you a clue, HE tries to kill everyone on the show and enslave humanity (again)...
@@Anon-xd3cf Apophis? Anubis?
There is or was captain James Kirk in command of Zumwalt class warship...
I hated Woolsey at first but I understood his opinion. The SGC was expensive and it could be argued is it even worth it? Earth got put on the map of the galaxy and there were a lot of nasty enemies like the Goa'uld and the Replicators at this point. The gains? Maybe some allies and friendships an X303 that barely worked and maybe 20-30 F-302s. He was right the public wasn't seeing any benefits and there were a lot of dangers. Earth almost got conquered or destroyed several times by now and Anubis didn't even show up yet with his fleet. Woolsey wasn't being political he was being honest. But in the long run humanity benefited and gained technology and let's face it the Goa'uld would have shown up eventually. But with the stargate the planet was better prepared. When put in command of Atlantis he realized that it wasn't just numbers and sometimes its just about doing the right thing. In the long run the Milkyway was freed from the Goa'uld empire the jaffa were free and established a government, the replictors were wiped out. The ori destroyed and a crusade stopped. The wraith were crippled and entered into a treaty with the Tauri to divide Pegasus more than the ancients could achieve.
Like Hammond 🥰
I like Robert Picardo better as the doctor on Voyager.
He gets better. Plus as a zombie killer in Five. ;)
When Stargate becomes one of The Doctor's holotape programs.
That would be a hell of a twist if Stargate was The Doctors holo family program gone astray.
why is in youtube humm
I wish americas bloated military's budget was going to something like the stargate from this show, rather than corporation consulting fees.
I think this is the one time that Woolsey is a bit hypocritical. He boast about how the taxpayers are getting nothing in return for the secret war they know nothing about, but as soon as General Hammond suggest that they inform the public he becomes concerned with keeping it top secret.
Any time money is spent one or more will try to affix a cost.
Why did he ask how he saw the report? Top sgc have highest clearance
Not if it was classified for the president's eyes only, then the only person who should be seeing it is the POTUS
clearance is one thing. Need to know is another
Would have been hilarious if Hammond replied, 'the president showed me, he wanted me to know what I was dealing with'
i like woolsey see stargate program is wasting.
but other year is see that program is many benefit to all human kind.
Damn. Hammond is still awesome.
If he thinks the money spent on the SGC is any big deal he knows nothing about the military-industrial complex .. The DOD can't account for well over $10 trillion and some estimate as much as $21 trillion .. What's a few million.. Billions in CASH disappear in Iraq
The SGC took up billions, iirc
@@EsquilaxM a drop in the bucket for the DOD ..they make trillions disappear ever yr.. It is estimated the DOD can't account for at least 10 trillion to 20 trillion dollars...as one representative said the DOD is why the government can't balance the checkbook ...the $710+ billion budget is more than EVERY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD spends on defense...so a couple billion is chump change to the DOD
Don't forget the unfunded liabilities - $122 trillion in payments the government owes and has promised its citizens, this far surpasses what the Military has squandered and lost.
One has to sort of ask the question: would we have been better off NOT opening the Stargate? I would have to agree that what we have gained out weighs the costs.
Now, how many people do you know could handle being informed that hey, guess what? We are not alone in the Galaxy! There are others out there! And not only that but there are empires and wars being fought out there! And humanity are just cattle to them! Insignificant!
Yeah...
I love Stargate, it is lots of fun and adventure ☺️
Also don't forget that this isn't the only galaxy with life and civilization in it.
I had 5 bucks on Hammond from when he walked in the room.
can't deactivate the EMH, not this time!
angry hammond is scary as fuck
Go Hammond of Texas!
Wow politics, I can dig into your information, but you can’t dig into ours.
It actually takes 30 to 50 million to train a professional soldier
Inflation
General Hammond would kick his arse. KO
Well for one thing, we spend billions on our military so even then it is already bad business to go to war. But we still go to war nonetheless. In terms of making the program public, this is not star trek. People will panic and try to interfere as people have with previous wars. This is not about some war for resources or religion, this is survival and freedom. That is why it is classified.
It's bad business for average citizens and politicians. It's great business for profiteers including media
Eventually, a program like the SGC would have to be disclosed to the public.
So in the end Earth ended up getting all the knowledge and history of the Asgard. The most advanced race in the universe, besides the ancients. Yeah i would say that no matter how much it cost to run the Stargate program, it paid off.
Paying millions of dollars in taxes to get little or nothing in return. That's the US today.
Proof the Stargate program exists 😂😂
Please, take my like ❤❤😂😂
Not one single person in the main cast has did and not been brought back to life. What the heck is this guy taking about?
Unless you are a doctor, then you are toast.
I think Woolsey has a great point, although it was perhaps not that greatly articulated here.
Stargate Command costs resources, public resources, which are finite. So one *has* to ask the question wether these resources are effectively allocated.
Saving one person's life is a good and honorable thing to do. However, how many more lifes could be saved if that money would went elsewhere? How many schools could be build, children be fed or medical bills be paid with the that same amount of money?
This is *not* a "trolley problem" scenario where you would purposefully throw one person *that would otherwise be safe* under the bus in order to save another.
The bus is coming for everyone, regardless of what you do. You can save one person, or you can save ten other people.
*This* is the question how much good you could do with the limited amount of resources that you have.