Elden Ring DLC - Count Ymir talks about Marika and Miquella
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- Опубликовано: 22 авг 2024
- I got this dialogue about Miquella and Marika after going to the wrong bell and talking to Count Ymir. I presume it will also play if you go to the correct bell first. Enjoy!
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Meanwhile Godwyn just liked lizards:
There is a reason he was called the "Golden" it's because he was the dragons golden boy
@@somebodyoncetoldme5203 He was also one of the least incestuous demigods, coincidence? I think not
Hes the Scion of the Golden Lineage because hes literally just the perfect person, he’s the only demigod to have been wholly good. Shame he was the only who who ended up actually dying.
@@somebodyoncetoldme5203 🤡💩
Bestiality
I hadnt noticed before he's holding in his hands a baby fingercreeper like its a kitty
If you get his armor set it mentions the gown hides all the wriggling underneath, and when you fight him he releases little fingercreepers out of his torso.
I wonder if he’s actually made of them or just controls them… he’s a super weird character attached to some really crazy lore revelations.
He became the finger mother after the death of metyr@@The.Nasty.
That same fingercreeper is named after a deceased child named yuri. You can find his gravestone just outside the cathedral. Ymir is sometimes standing next to it
Gold Mask was right!
He's always been right hence his ending being the best
Frenzy was right
The dung eater was right also 👀
@@d7im65nah get help 💀
@@somebodyoncetoldme5203 But the thing he is saying 'right' here is the same as Ranni and Frenzy. In fact his is barely a departure from the gods
Considering Ymir’s quest line- him calling someone else unhinged is funny.
But also ironic
Dudes a literal old man and he wants to become the “mother” of fingers…
What’s more, after doing what he asks of us, he gets offended and tries to kill us.
@@Cobaltblues4 right? I bet the way we dressed offended him.
Gold mask did say the gods are fickle
And the fly in the ointment. Personal ambition.
Well uhh his entire point is that Marika and Radagon possess human fickleness that does not befit a god.
@collindouglas8188 but also that Marika was able to be corrupted in the first place. Metyr looks to be true problem. She wanted the greater will so bad that she faked it's guidance
@Bbmag23 IMO, the Age of Stars is just the true ending.
She picks a god defined by its unknowableness and separation from its worshippers, becomes the God of the Lands Between, and leaves them to choose their own fate instead of ruling over them.
Alternatively you can let everyone know just how much you love this setting by burning it down.
@collindouglas8188 I agree. I've always felt Rannis Way was the most akin to the world we live in.
No need to fake connections to gods. They're not there. Just live and try to figure it out. ranni is starting a dark age that will usher in a rennaisance. Let people dream and wonder and see where it takes them.
*“And the blame lays squarely with the mother.”*
Morgott, Mohg, Ranni, Melina, Messmer… it’s always been Marika. It all starts and leads back to Marika. It’s been Marika from the very fucking beginning.
Ymir is talking about Metyr, The Mother Fingers
actually most of it starts and leads back to miquella himself lmfao
@@brunooliveira-jx5ucHe is directly talking about Marika and how the bloodline is completely insane and rotten from all the tragedy and horror.
@@mrct592 Because the bloodline from Marika was guided by Metyr the Mother of Fingers. Metyr, who is NOT EVEN IN COMMUNION WITH THE GREATER WILL. A sham from the start. It starts to make sense how Marika decides to tear it all down in the end; mayhaps she discovered Metyr's lie.
@@mrct592yes but he says her mother was crazy too, we all need a mother.
"No matter how tender, how exquisite, a lie will remain a lie!"
By the way marikas homeland is in the scadu hinterlands. There a spell there called Minor Erdtree: " Marika bathed the village of her home and gold, knowing full well that there was no one heal".
The village is called Shaman Village.
Also further up on the hill u see a tree with Marikas Grandmother mummified to it. An item there is called Golden Braid" " what was her prayer? Her wish, her confession? There is no one left to answer, and Marika never returned home again. "
Yeah and it seems like her people were abducted and stuffed into pots in bonny village lol
@@thorneto2742 No wonder she sent Messmer there to set everything on fire.
You can align the camera so that the face of your character will be exactly inside the hole in Ymir hat.
The way his quest ends is just a joke. He's the only character who speaks about the nature of the world objectively without crazy fanaticism and unhealthy devotion. He deserved a better ending. He and Miriel
Turtle Pope for God and Count Ymir for Elden Lord. New canon ending.
Nah he’s actually pretty crazy in his own right.
Mild spoilers for him:
A staff you get from him implies he wanted to become a Mother of Fingers like Metyr…
His staff resembles Metyrs tail, and he releases fingercreepers from his body like Metyr.
Seems like he wants us to kill Metyr because she can’t hear the Greater Will anymore, he intends to try an replace her.
Dudes a loon.
@@The.Nasty. dangit everything loon in elden ring
@@raynaldo9894 it’s loony turtles, all the way down.
Miriel never dies and just gets to live within his Church. As long as you don't kill him he does get a happy ending.
Ymir cradling Yuri like Mr. boss cradles his son in Smiling Friends
If the Rrroots arrre Rrrrotten
then we have little Rrrrecourse.
The craziest lore drop out of nowhere, mom lost contact with god so mom starting making shit up to tell the demigods.
It’s evident that the best ending is and always was the Goldmask ending.
It depends on how you interpret it. To me, Goldmask's ending is a theocracy without a head priest. You have a god either issuing commands directly without human intermediaries, which is terrifying, or a ridiculous amount of schisms as everyone interprets the god's dictates in their own way.
@@tibot4228as I understand it's more of a world with immutable laws of reality, with no "inner" gods to change them at their whim.
No it's the Lord of frenzy ending. Just fucking end it all
Based and "..."pilled
Doesn't this dialogue precisely go against that? We might've fixed the flaws in the golden order with the goldmask ending, but we can still make mistakes. It's selfish to think that we could do better. After all, continuing to rule in the same way Marika did will lead to the same problems, even with the golden order rid of flaws.
This is why I like the Ranni ending, it's a fundamentally different route. Fuck the golden order, greater will and all that. Yeah, mistakes are still possible, and likely. The gods, are, too, people, and so is Ranni. Yet just by trying something different, other than restoring the golden order, I already think it's a better course of action.
Not even gonna mention flame of frenzy. If you hate your life and want to die, there's a way to fix that. But, as Melina herself says, even in the current state of the lands between, there's still birth, there's still life, life clings to the slightest bit of hope there is. Ending it all because of the horrors you see is stupid. They still suffered, and now, you also rid of life those that weren't suffering. We can't do that.
Is he basically saying that you could never overcome your nature? The past is what makes you?
For 99% of living beings yes. Stereotypes are for a reason.
The whole idea of fromsoft games is how everything made eventually deteriorates, and you can either sacrifice to preserve what's left or burn it all down and start from the beginning, or some other alternative usually involving changing things and starting a new cycle with a different flavor. In every case, you are not judged for picking either, because each game portrays a cycle, save for Elden Ring, where no cycle is implied. Instead the theme is more centered around how little you actually know about what you chose, and nothing is elaborated on afterwards, no extended ending, because you too will create something that will eventually fail, or not, but you can't see past the short term as a human, but you can make nice choices in the short term.
You start off as a dude with no knowledge of the world, and detached from it's conflicts. Ymir spells the themes of it out for you in case you miss what they're trying to imply.
This dialogue precedes a boss fight with an actual mother of all the fingers who were calling the shots. Who is revealed to have never been in contact with the "Greater will" and neither were here children. So the meaning is literal. They entire time Marika and her children and the people of the world were being led by a big fat liar.
No, but he is saying that Marika's line was tainted
@@bloodyidit4506Oh Elden Ring is definitely a cycle as well, a cycle of Orders
Kunt Ymir
Peoples who think Ranni ending makes the world normal are tripping MAD hard.
You cannot stop the outergods, only slow them down , they don’t give a shot about the Elden ring in general as you see in the DLC.
-Metyr is older than the fucking Elden ring
-The flame of frenzy influence on the land between is predate Marika golden Order and the Edtree itself since even the hornsents are AFRAID of it soo much that they will brutally execute or torture anyone who meddle with it ( as the sword of damnation even mocks them by saying they aren’t different from the Golden Order )
- The Order of Rot always pollute stuff and even the horsent are implied to not like them
The hornsent are a civilization that is said and shown to not be so different from the golden Order when it comes to religious practice and treating people they view as lesser them ( people without horns, Criminals etc)
Ancient Dragons too have their own share of mutual hatred against drakes due to them being direct descendants of Bayle the Tyrants, and they went out of their way to invent dragon communion just to basically exterminate them.
The hornsents cannot stop the outergods, neither can Marika as a god, so what on earth can Ranni do when the Outer gods already fuck around in the land between BEFORE the Elden ring was even a thing?
All Ranni did was basically dismantle the religious group known as the Golden Order, but sadly it doesn’t fix shit, you don’t need to be god to oppress people, you just need to have enough POWER, which is exactly what the hornsents did even so they didn’t have a god.
If anyone played DS3, you would know about Pontiff sulyvan and Aldrich, the former is a tyrannical sorcerer while the later is a cannibalistic priest that gets stronger the more people he eats ( ironically worshipped as a god of an incoming age) , both of them despises anything related to gods aka Gywn lineage, yet even so they have no power related to the first flame, they had horrific influence in a good portion of DS3 lore that they did deliberately
Nope. I’m leaving everything with Ranni.
Yeah, and with how people explains it? she gives everyone the will to do as they want in her new kingdom. No eldritch entities above dictating who and who should not be exterminated due to them being a possible threat to there grand design.
Based
@@cadenboissineau4604 Yeah, and a bunch of eldritch abominations get free reign to do whatever they want when society is shattered and no powerful entities to stop them. Worse yet, Death Root will continue to spread and destroy what is left.
Thanks Ranni. What a hero.
@@stephenjenkins7971 Either case or any ending we choose... the lands between is fucked. The rot will inevitably leek into from caelid, the death root will come from below, and then the possible return of the Godskin with the rune of death now taken from Malekith. Lots uuuh... lots of problems. But at least free will is a good start? Not saying Golden order isnt an "EVIL" Ending, but jeeze... lots of blood on that front.
@@cadenboissineau4604 If a strong Elden Lord like the PC is around, then stuff like the Rot and other Outer Gods can be stopped or limited. The only issue is the Death Root, but even that issue can be stymied somewhat as long as there is a strong society left behind to deal with it.
What Ranni's ending leaves behind is...nothing. No powerful characters, or powerful entities to stop the horror. Just a black hole of anarchy.
"Free will" is a lie in the Ranni ending. The Golden Order is no more tyrannical than a typical monarchy, and what will emerge in the Lands Between after the Ranni ending will likely be no better than the Golden Order.
TLDR; the Ranni ending leaves the most problems and is led by the one that created most of those problems to start with.
So basically every single child of marika/radagon has mommy issues is what i'm getting at here.
i'm not a mom but dam thats really heavy to here poor marika.
Marika is the ultimate villain of elden ring. She uses everyone to her advantage and discards them after.
@@spas6433so, basic mom? 😂. My mom knows each of her children's weakest part of our ego, oftenly triggers it, we debate her, then playing victim, cursing us for raising our voice to her, lol. It's almost our daily routine, especially me, now that i'm the one who take care of her, i need to deal with her BS daily
@@chakravartin3356”Basic mom.”
not "basic" more like "ur mom" lol@@chakravartin3356
@@chakravartin3356 Dude, just because your mother was like that doesn't mean everyone else's mothers were like that to. Stop projecting your negative experience onto other people.
I’m confused, if everything Marika did was because the fingers, who really couldn’t commune with the Greater Will, told her to do, then what about the Elden Ring and the Elden Beast?
The fingers presumably did at one point but eventually the greater will stopped for some reason it tends to do that
@@azeria1 not really it stated by Ymir that they where "defective" from the very start, so yeah im also quite confused on this one
Presumably, the Greater Will sent the Elden Beast at a later date when Marika somehow became the bearer of the Elden Ring. Perhaps she made contact with it with Metyr’s guidance.
The only decent questline in the game, but still extraordinarily vague even by From's story telling standards. Dlc is so fucking light on dialogue it's insane
Is it though? I felt like the story and characters' intention were made a lot more clear this time.
Well then........... frenzy it is
But it wasn't Marika! It was Radagon!
Just this dialogue is better than the main story of the dlc in it's entirety (bar ansbach, which is also neat for calling out the "folly" of it all)
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The lore is a demonstration of fatherless activities.
That’s cool and all dude, but……why is your robe wiggling like that?
Lol Miquella was not so inoccent either just look at what he did to (spolier)
Im still very confused with what miquella did. He brought radahn back into mohgs body so he could make him his consort, therefore that allowed him to ascend to godhood right? But then we killed them and then now what?
@@romdom9406nothing, we had to kill them because there can only be one Lord
@@trustee8503 Elden Ring is just complicated Highlander with magic. "Born to be kings! Princes of the universe!"
@@trustee8503if only they added a new alternate age ending
@@romdom9406 Yes and yes. We killed them because we are the Elden Lord. There's a reason only Ranni survives and it's because she is willing to work with us
I choose ranni.
Ranni seems to realize how flawed the vision of gods in charge is doomed to be and even how flawed herself as God-Queen replacement would be. Thus, her choice to leave the world behind and bring with her the Elden Ring so it cannot be tampered with makes sense. It's crazy how I didn't really understand any of this when I first played.
@@jakobrenner2230 I always felt like Ranni ending is the best outcome for the lands in between it’s like the dark souls 3 ending to put out the first flame. We seen the gods in the games are flawed how they rule the world how it became a mess due to their influence. Sure the age of stars isn’t bright as the last order but at least it’s clear with the greater will influence left the world the people in land between decides their own fate having the stars and moon to guide them like the people in ancient time.
@@jaieregilmore971There’s no GW’s influence, it’s all mortal things justifying their actions. All gods fighting is all man-made conflicts. Rot, Formless Mother, Frenzied Flame, all were born from the people’s suffering from wars. GW left the LBs for eons and never wants anything from us or any contact.
@@MK-xj5by that explains Metyr the mother of fingers.
@@jakobrenner2230 Why do you say that Ranni will take away the influence of the other gods? The greater will together with the Elden ring was unable to do this, why will it be able to? In my opinion, she only destroyed or hid the Elden ring
Is it okay if I lift this audio for a project? I'll make sure to give credit
Sure, go ahead. No need to give me any credit.
@@StratekYT That's very kind. I'd still like to credit you if you're okay with it!
@@Glimby_ I do appreciate that and I can't stop you from crediting me, I'm just saying you don't have to 😄
Flame of frenzy is seeming like the best ending more and more.
Ranni’s is way better than the flame of frenzy ending
Perfect Order
The perfect order you give total control to the greater will. I don’t think it is the best. The gold mask thinks the order is imperfect because Marika was once a mortal so he wants to give all the control to the outer god
@@jdiona Goldmask saw imperfections in the golden order and its laws, so he made a rune, that would make it impossible for anything to break said laws.
@@cantaro5958 ok. I thought that because the gold mask gets so surprised when he discovered that Radagon is Marika and Radagon is not treated as a god instead of Marika.
I always knew Frenzied Flame was the right option. Gotta burn those roots.
MAY CHAOS TAKE THE WORLD!
Why is Frenzied Flame the right option? How is a world of nothing but ash a better one that a world where the people in charge suck but life goes on?
@@Epistolary8 Because its one where the world is filled with monsters and gods who create more monsters because their insane. It's like the choice between dying and lying in a zombie apocalypse where there is no hope of anything getting better. And hey who knows maybe once the roots are burned out something new can take its place. Worth a shot.
@@SuperPal-tr3go It's made pretty clear that the frenzied flame ending is not a "reset" where things have a chance to take root after and a new order can appear. It's literally ending the world in chaos and flame, that's it. There is no after.
@@webkid4567and.........
What's the problem with this guy? I did what he asked and then he attacked me.
We killed his god
Okay, his name's Ymir, really? Norse Mythology much GRRM?
Each of them are UNHINGED. LMAO. Frenzy flame is canonically the best ending now.
genocidal nihilism is def not the best ending to elden ring
So everyone burns to death? Ranni will always be the best waifu.
@@dadevi their solution is to burn down the world. Ranni solution is move out of the world with all the Order BS, to space, to infinity and beyond.
@@funnymanhaha7899 i swear these nihilists just saw pretty yellow flames and said “i want that!” It’s not a reset, it literally set the world in eternal flame bfr lol
@@Siureivax And? Maybe no more births is better than the alternative..
Do we know who Melina is now?
Messmer's sister who 'dreams of flames'
Makes me think Marikas dad might be the lord of frenzy flame boss, madness runs in the family line just brings that to my mind
@@HoboPrincess I still dont know much about the lore of Midra. All I know is that he tried to become Lord of Frenzy but failed. Who the heck is Nanaya? What happened to her baby? Why the hell is their manor placed down in the deep down dark deep, what a terrible real estate.
@@apolloisnotashirt he's def a fav for me! The hornsent also are responsible for his umm head thing lol and they're the ones that where stuffing Marikas ppl in jars..
@@HoboPrincess So in this DLC, the hornsent are the evil ones... Kinda reminiscent of how The Golden Order are also considered the evil ones in the current era of Elden RIng.
So that's a guy huh.
A pregnant guy, but yeah.
@@dadevi they are like seahorses, probably why marika could become a man (radgon) and a woman (herself).
He's the lord-lady of hands.
You never see an Asian before? 😂
More and more it looks like Radahn was the only good god. Shame.
Godwyn seemed good as well, from what little we knew about him, hence why his death and transformation was particularly tragic.
Both Radahn and Godwyn is the poster boy for golden order. Certainly not good for a lot of people.
A warmonger who worked for the Golden Order. Yeah, what a good guy. /s
It seems like Godwyn was the only good demigod and thats more because we barely know anything about him.
godwyn died and knowing from he's prolly not entirely good despite appearances(literally did the same with miquella).. while radahn is a war addict.. not good.