The neck pickup sounds very strat like if you listen to the Boston Blues album on "If you Let me Love you", or "Before The Beginning" on Shrine 69! Glorious tone even before hitting that middle position! It's like that SRV Tube Screamer tone everyone hankers after, without the need of a Tube Screamer, just a f**king loud Fender Dual Showman ;o)
Those pics of Peter playing the guitar in the '80s are very charming. I wasn't aware he'd ever really picked it up again after selling it. But yeah with all his changes he obviously no longer fancied that guitar. But it's nice that he had a little moment of reconnection with a guitar he must have played on hundreds and hundreds of shows. Killer Jumping At Shadows, Ramón. I think it's one of the most powerful examples of Peter's absolutely unparalleled touch for blues improv.
It definitely has quite a unique sound and many are trying to recreate that sound. It seems it's mostly to do with the thicker strat wire that the pickup was wound with although of course it being out of phase helps get that tone.
I hate to be that guy but I have a small correction ....Peter's neck pickup was rewound in the incorrect type of wire, not the incorrect gauge it was 42 awg (American Wire Gauge) Heavy Formvar (strat) wire instead of Plain Enamel wire. Formvar has a heavier coat of insulation reducing eddy currents and also had to be lower wind because the thicker insulation means you can't fit as much wire in the bobbins. That pup has a bit more clarity than a standard PAF
Paul Kosoff used to work in Selmer's. So when he owned it was it clean and in working order, I wonder how the guitar needed repair in Selmers in the first place? ...G...
lol most humbuckers these days use plastic shielded wire so not totally wrong for a humbucker and as for the winder more suited for Fender pickups, a winder is a winder! You said he wound it in the wrong gauge wire, so what wire did he use and what wire was it originally wound with? Also if he underwound it, what DC resistance did it start and end up with? Now this is the big question, if he put the magnet north polarity rather than south, did he wind the pickup clockwise or anti clockwise because that will also make a huge difference? My guess he wound the pickup clockwise and that's why he made it north polarity, making a mistake putting the magnet in wrong is extremely unlikely for a pickup tech.
I heard that the wire was both the wrong gauge, and wrong material- formvar, not plain enamel. Which also would make sense with the more Fender orientation.
Doesent look like it says Gibson. What kind of git are you playing? P. S. Bought a J&D Les Paul Deluxe for $199.00 usd a couple of weeks ago and it is absolutely incredible. It just goes to show, there are many variables in getting a great guitar. Another plus is it is beautiful. No truss rod cover, nice gold hardware and smoking humbuckers. Just bought a $700.00 used PRS before that that I don't like playing at all except it is nice looking. It helps so much to try them out.
I love my Epiphone Les Paul it's my favourite Guitar but I love the my vintage SG copy to and Fender Sartcaster and my Dark Blue Ibanez as well in short I love them all.
hamer guitars examined it.....they believe that the magnet was put in wrong from the factory.....only thing changed was pickup flipped...wrong from the factory
That doesn't explain the changed leader wire. And it's now known that the pickup winds don't use the usual wire used for PAFs. So it's clearly been disassembled and rewound. So it therefore seems much more likely that Hamer were mistaken and that the magnet was accidentally flipped during the rewind.
Yep can vouch for that, magnet flips always drop too much volume when the middles on and level on the pots….. there are 2 era’s of the greeny guitar….. Peters era and Gary’s era. The insides were set different….. ;-) I just got Alan’s set of PG spirits and my suspicions from a while ago are correct. Flip that which ever way you want ha!
The neck pickup sounds very strat like if you listen to the Boston Blues album on "If you Let me Love you", or "Before The Beginning" on Shrine 69! Glorious tone even before hitting that middle position! It's like that SRV Tube Screamer tone everyone hankers after, without the need of a Tube Screamer, just a f**king loud Fender Dual Showman ;o)
Great comment thanks
As a Peter Green appreciator, I think you summed it all up prettty concisely there. Thanks ... 🙂
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Never heard the story of the Selmer tech being responsible for the neck pickup. Very interesting. Great research
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That’s a perfect recreation of Jumping in the Shadows. Sounds like it was right off Live in Boston.
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Love that song!
Thank you Kelly
Incredible video
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Those pics of Peter playing the guitar in the '80s are very charming. I wasn't aware he'd ever really picked it up again after selling it. But yeah with all his changes he obviously no longer fancied that guitar. But it's nice that he had a little moment of reconnection with a guitar he must have played on hundreds and hundreds of shows.
Killer Jumping At Shadows, Ramón. I think it's one of the most powerful examples of Peter's absolutely unparalleled touch for blues improv.
What a fantastic video have a wonderful day
Many thanks indeed
Bro such amazing playing wonderful in depth talk …. You bring all the good info on the table
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It definitely has quite a unique sound and many are trying to recreate that sound.
It seems it's mostly to do with the thicker strat wire that the pickup was wound with although of course it being out of phase helps get that tone.
If you listen to the Boston Blues Live album, that Neck pickup howls like SRV on his strats neck pickup through a Tube Screamer!
Great stuff. Thanks. 👍
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Like the Jumping at Shadows entry Ramon, well played my man. Sam stuffed it up completely from the get go..........so it goes.
What an intro, ❤
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I hate to be that guy but I have a small correction ....Peter's neck pickup was rewound in the incorrect type of wire, not the incorrect gauge it was 42 awg (American Wire Gauge) Heavy Formvar (strat) wire instead of Plain Enamel wire. Formvar has a heavier coat of insulation reducing eddy currents and also had to be lower wind because the thicker insulation means you can't fit as much wire in the bobbins. That pup has a bit more clarity than a standard PAF
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And now kirk hamit owns it
Paul Kosoff used to work in Selmer's. So when he owned it was it clean and in working order, I wonder how the guitar needed repair in Selmers in the first place? ...G...
Peter Green broke it whilst in John Mayalls there’s a photo with the guitar without a neck pickup you can see it on my Peter green history video
@@TheGuitarShow I'll be watching that tonight Ramon. Thanks mate ...G...
@@TheGmcFilms pleasure bro
I wonder if the headstock pitch was changed during one of the neck repairs .
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lol most humbuckers these days use plastic shielded wire so not totally wrong for a humbucker and as for the winder more suited for Fender pickups, a winder is a winder! You said he wound it in the wrong gauge wire, so what wire did he use and what wire was it originally wound with? Also if he underwound it, what DC resistance did it start and end up with? Now this is the big question, if he put the magnet north polarity rather than south, did he wind the pickup clockwise or anti clockwise because that will also make a huge difference? My guess he wound the pickup clockwise and that's why he made it north polarity, making a mistake putting the magnet in wrong is extremely unlikely for a pickup tech.
I heard that the wire was both the wrong gauge, and wrong material- formvar, not plain enamel. Which also would make sense with the more Fender orientation.
It was the correct gauge but wrong type (formvar)
@@murrayguitarpickups9545 You might be right. Perhaps it was 42 gauge Formvar
@@mattthrun-nowicki8641 that's how I make my reproductions and the tone is pretty much spot on
Doesent look like it says Gibson. What kind of git are you playing? P. S. Bought a J&D Les Paul Deluxe for $199.00 usd a couple of weeks ago and it is absolutely incredible. It just goes to show, there are many variables in getting a great guitar. Another plus is it is beautiful. No truss rod cover, nice gold hardware and smoking humbuckers. Just bought a $700.00 used PRS before that that I don't like playing at all except it is nice looking. It helps so much to try them out.
Nice Les Paul
Thanks William
I love my Epiphone Les Paul it's my favourite Guitar but I love the my vintage SG copy to and Fender Sartcaster and my Dark Blue Ibanez as well in short I love them all.
@@williampayne7678 Sounds so cool William
@@TheGuitarShow is that a epiphone u are playing?
hamer guitars examined it.....they believe that the magnet was put in wrong from the factory.....only thing changed was pickup flipped...wrong from the factory
That doesn't explain the changed leader wire. And it's now known that the pickup winds don't use the usual wire used for PAFs. So it's clearly been disassembled and rewound. So it therefore seems much more likely that Hamer were mistaken and that the magnet was accidentally flipped during the rewind.
Completely not true , the neck pickup died and Peter had it rewound by Sam Li who rewound it in reverse by accident .
electric phase reversal works just as well.
I guess you are tone deaf,it doesn’t sound the same at all
Hey-oh Ramon...
Do you get a very noticeable volume drop when you're in the middle position?
Not with this set Jonny
Yep can vouch for that, magnet flips always drop too much volume when the middles on and level on the pots….. there are 2 era’s of the greeny guitar….. Peters era and Gary’s era. The insides were set different….. ;-) I just got Alan’s set of PG spirits and my suspicions from a while ago are correct. Flip that which ever way you want ha!
What made Gary get rid of that beautiful guitar and of all people Kirk hammet what a waste of a beautiful guitar