Mans hit literally nothing but dirt. Full auto on a DMR/battle rifle is dumb. You can't change my mind. Either drop caliber to an AR for FA, or employ the mighty MG.
Holy shit . They can keep them for that$$$$. I'll buy 4 Ruger sfar instead. Some guys had issues but I figured it out. There awesome and super reliable,once the factory gas block is removed and replaced. Those just run n run.
I had two MR223 14.5" and I wanted my next rifle to be a 20" MR308. Then a new delivery from HK came into the gun store and I bought MR223 in 16.5". Now I wish I bought the MR308 in 20" but I guess that will be my next purchase.
I have Windham Weaponry SRC .308. Has a surprisingly light profile for a 308 and is chrome lined. It's not a target gun, it's a battle rifle, fun range blaster. No illusions about precision shooting.
Dude your timing on this is hilarious as I realized like today how I still don’t have this itch for the mr762 scratched yet.. literally a today thing. Damn dude you’d already sold me a Mk23 😂
4K man. That’s what they go for now. Hadn’t seen one in years and it was a grail piece for me so I jumped when I saw it. Painful but worth it. Snagged mine in April.
I got a Tavor 7 for my 7.62x51 option, and I love it. It shoots very comfortably. I don't have a long range to go to to test out long distance shooting, but I know it's more battle rifle focused than DMR focused. I do wish Geissele made a trigger/trigger pack for it though.
Several things I want to touch on bases off this video. I own one and it’s like yours is extremely accurate by far more accurate then I am. Mine is a newer model date code CB and the finish although great has definitely chipped pretty bad on the deflector. The front pin is a pain to put back in… as for the internal components being proprietary isn’t much of a concern. Sure parts maybe harder to come by and not interchangeable but why would you want to interchange them to begin with. HK parts are ages ahead of 99.9% of competitors not only that but the internals will out live whatever round count you can put through this thing….
Man I was so happy to hear you say that about the Geissele trigger because I could not tell if I was tweakin or not but I didn’t feel much difference in the pull weight. It’s a much cleaner break but I wasn’t satisfied because I have other Geissele triggers and was comparing it to those. I called Geissele twice asking if there was some way they could improve it but all they could come up with was a $12 spring kit which I installed but a still didn’t get the results I was looking for. My problem is at 700yds I felt the trigger was not light enough for me to hit a torso almost everytime I was hitting about 40%
Hey now I forgot to mention I am 40% on a torso sized target @ 700yds but that is using the cheapest ammo I can find which is 147gr Armscore and the misses are me not the rifles fault for sure. The MR762A1 is extremely accurate definitely more accurate than me.
@@mariotorano3781 That Armscor seems more like near-distance (100yds and in) training ammo. Never shot it myself but my .308 bolt gun has run a lot of different commercial loads, just out of curiosity. With a single rare exception the 147gr and 150gr loads aren't dependable even at 300yds for me. But good to learn the trigger pull, etc. Do yourself a favor and get some 168gr or 175gr of the kinds NAVYMAN suggested if you want to reach out 300+.
You tuber Mountains,Mullets,Merica was shooting the MR762 out to eleven hundred yards in high wind. I believe 185 juggernauts. He did a review of this rifle as well.
Wish they would do an mr65, some old timers at HK. Hopefully one day I’ll get one, it would be the cherry on top of my HK collection. Great review btw, probably the best on RUclips
Why would those be the only 3 AR10s worth having? Theres a whole bunch of them like the ADM. Heck, the old Sig 716 piston version is definitely worth having and i know that for sure because I have one and its quite accurate. Its extremely similar to the HK 417 honestly. Supposedly it was designed by one of the guys who designed the 417. Love your content but I think a more accurate statement would be those are the only 3 AR10s worth having if you want to flex. I think at a certain point we get to a place where we're just spending money for the sake of it.
There are other good ones out there for sure. I've heard the old SIGs are good to go. Not sure about what they're turning out now. I haven't been able to run an ADM or seen one in the wild. I know they use Criterion barrels. I'll see if I can shoot one.
I’ve heard/seen the LWRC AR10’s are legit. I’ve got about 0.01% experience with AR10’s, let alone LWRC’s, but I do have two LWRC rifles, my SIX8 Razorback II, and my M6 IC-E which has been absolutely amazing and phenomenal with only a couple “failures” in just about 3500 rounds, which isn’t a lot I know, but was all ammunition related i.e. the ammunitions fault. So the LWRC AR10’s are definitely cheaper than H&K and Knights, but probably closer to LMT’s AR10 prices I imagine. Anyways, good stuff once again my eventual fellow Veteran, I appreciate your videos and content my friend. God bless~
I am very happy I was able to do it, but it's definitely more the rifle than it is me. I had to dial deep into 9 mils to do it. I need to switch over to 175gr for sure.
@@navyman8903 For 16” 175 is pretty much minimum grain. You can run also 165 but very high quality round. No less then that. Try out also 180 match grade ones. Btw 700 is walk in the park with this weapon with good ammo. The best possible ammo for precision is Swiss Ruag P target. Just animal round.
@@silentfog6924 I will check it out. I'm in the process of changing over to all 175gr now. I also want to give some 175gr Black Hills tipped match kings a try.
Tactical Kitty. Guest appearance! Tactical Kitty, however, did step on snek. Not cool, TK. Not cool. Awesome video, Navy dude. Thank you for your service, and thank you for making this informative review. All the more reasons to own a firearm made by HK.
You're not kidding about the price. I've been slowly building mine over the past 4 years after a friend gave me a BRN7 lower. Everything else has been HK parts, and its been quite the exercise in patience in collect and constantly budget and scan for parts. Hopefully it'll be done by the end of the year. Im excited to finish it and shoot it.
@@navyman8903 Will do. Not gonna lie, almost sold it all for parts just due to how long it was taking, but your video made me reconsider. So I appreciate it. Just seeing it partially put together has already given me some satisfaction, and being built after such a long time will be that much better.
Well if the Kahles k18i is anything like the Kahles k16i I can say it's has the best hlass clarity. If you do go Kahles they are coming out with their K18i Gen 2 with a 150ft FOV at 1x in September
@Redbusser40 yeah it's still a 24mm objective lense and 30mm tube to my knowledge. I dont know the specifics of what ever Kraut space magic their using to pull it off, but it's going to be lit. I'm just super happy I didn't buy the K18i 3 weeks ago and went with the k16i
Awesome video man. Very informative and a solid take on the MR as precision rifle vs BR that I totally agree with. Personally I love the mayflower triple magazine shingle they used to make for the 417. Tough to find but the best option for a carrier out of everything I’ve tried. As for suppressor use, I run a RC2 and added a waffenburke AGB and it runs really well. Could be worth checking out if your still trying to tune your Mr for your suppressor. Usually there’s guys on Pro selling them for MSRP (500ish USD).
Fun Fact: Battle rifles don't need to be full auto. Rifles that are chambered in a full powered cartridge and have a detachable box magazine are classified as battle rifles and are capable of being DMRs . I don't know if the Canadian FAL meets this definition because its a integrated mag fed by clips but there's an exception to every rule so the HK417 is a battle rifle that can be placed in different roles such as a DMR based on the model. The HK G28 was designed for the DMR role and although it meets the criteria for being a battle rifle, it most likely won't be classified as one because of it design purpose, weight and the precision instruments used with it.
You think a 1;11 is much of an upgrade? I bought the mr762 before i heard the LRP had a faster twist rate, kinda wish i would have gotten that and tried to recoup some money by selling the shit optic.
The optic is definitely shit and I'm not sure at this point since I haven't fired one. But I would still like to get one and try it out. There's a forum thread on the 1:12 twist vs the 1:11 for the MR762. The barrel length kinda makes it a moot point from what the guy was saying. But that said, I would still like to get one to have a backup and test it out. Might only be apparent with the heaviest bullets or the furthest distances.
Geco bulk has done well in Europe. For precision any sierra load will do, but test few different weights. Dunno about self-defense, it is a 308, pretty much any bullet with 3000J will drop a man. However, for 223 sierras do have expansion but it is not as reliable as gold dot or others alike.
I used the same ammo for defense as I do for practice. Which is expensive. Currently I'm using 168gr SMK Federal Gold Medal Match. I also used Black Hills 168gr SMK when I could find it. But now I'm going to start using Federal Gold Medal Match 175gr SMKs and Black Hills as well. Maybe some 175gr TMK if I'm feeling like I hate money and can find it.
The stock trigger on my MR felt like it was 7-8 lbs. Terrible. Dropped in the Geisle and it shoots like a dream. Then put a Schmidt 5-20 up top and a OSS 762 TI out front. Ka-ching. Hitting steel at 1K yards easy. And loading the mags is oddly satisfying. They are works of art.
Cool review. I like the idea of messing with full power rifles, but they just cost too much to mess with imo. On another random note: Ever thought about doing some competitions?
I used to shoot FDCC here, but so did my whore ex wife. So.....not trying to run into that crowd. I did post one of my matches. I came in right at the upper 1/3 . I could have done better if someone didn't spin my turrets. I am eager to do it. But time and the social circles are a barrier at the moment.
@@navyman8903 I'm using a Surefire RC2 full size 7.62 on both. Surprisingly little backpressure. Didn't even need to use the suppressor setting on the DD5. In fact it didn't have enough gas to run so I just left it on normal setting. RC2 is designed with reduced backpressure I found out later.
Navy, I’ve mentioned before I have an older LWRC REPR and it is a 16 inch heavy barrel that has been ultra reliable and I’m getting about the same accuracy as you with 168 grain, side note I lose a little accuracy when I move up to 175 grain. My gun likes the 168 the best so that’s what I use when I’m shooting for ultimate accuracy. Like you it’s the most expensive rifle I own and I use it to mostly hunt with. Thanks for the info on your HK and I’d like to know how your rifle likes the 175 grain when you start using it. Thanks Rick Rick
@@navyman8903 yeah I’d have paid more for a better scope and had it as part of the package- the good news is I was able to give the scope and mount to a buddy who needed it but doesn’t have the cash for it. Good guy and struggling a bit.
@@navyman8903yep. I just bought one but since I don’t have any scopes for higher end shit I’ll keep it and upgrade and not be as pissed off about the bundle. If I already had budget scopes I’d be annoyed however
I've been seeing these pop up occasionally around $3k. I have a SCAR17, but don't shoot it very much. It's setup as a battle rifle with a light and ACOG, but I agree with your point about 308 platforms. I think 308 semi auto in general are more suited for a DMR role than a "run and gun." If I have to move with the gun, I'm choosing between my SP5 and SCAR16. No one wants to run with a big heavy battle rifle. I guess what I'm trying to say is the time may be coming that I dump my beloved SCAR17 and pick up one of these to build out for a true DMR role... I'm lucky to have access to a family farm where we can shoot just over 800yd, so I would get to stretch the legs on this.
I put together my AR-10 precision using Noveske 16" 308 barrel with headspaced bolt, ZEV billet receiver set, Veltor A5 buffer system, and the PRI carbon fiber handguard. Optic, I went with the N.F. atacr 1-8 and I have taken it out to 800 yds with no problem. If I had the money I'd go the same route you did great video.
Tactical tailor makes double 20rnd soft pouches. I can fit 6 mags on my carrier. And criterion was the only manufacturer I could find with a chrome lined LR-308 barrel. It was worth it though.
the 762 trigger is superior to the 556. i think both of mine are from 2012 0r 2013 id have to dig out the receipts. i like the stock trigger and quad rail. im a real sicko. forgot to mention i practice at 1000yards with my 762 i use smk175 and ppu175match. the ppu isnt bad for the money try a box. i shoot at a few types of paper targets and steel reactive plates. i use the police training silhouettes 21x24in and the slow pistol 50yard paper targets also 21x24in. im not going to go into numbers and brag or tell fish stories but i will say this. i keep all the rounds on paper i usually do 40rds a target and value each shot at a score of 2.5%. on the silhouettes. or add up the score of the numbers with a max score of 400points with 10 being the most points x40rds. the slow fire is a bullseye type target and i try to keep every thing in the black 8in circle. The rifles amazing.
Very nice. Do you know what twist you have? I got people telling me mine is 1:11 because it's the thick barrel. I'm not sure now. You know that thing where people say something enough to make you doubt yourself?
@@navyman8903 lol indeed. if my memory serves me right i called hk and asked because i think the manual says 1x12. Hk told me 1x11 twist to stabilize 168 and 175
You have to get your triggers on black Friday i usually try to get two. My wifes niece i knew always carried and i always thought that was cool untul i found out she had hk 556 , i was so jealous im the guy un the family that has all the guns . I guess quality over quantity wins i still think shes pretty cool .
"If it doesn't have the slant cut... it's not as good." Like buying a Ferrari... but in puke green, not red. Nice work on the bad rest, no rear bag, no bipod, 168gr long shots. Backpack full of mags, mildly more conforming than some whole & broken bricks. You can say it's all the rifle, but anyone who shoots half-regularly knows better.
Also, you have the 1:11 twist barrel. All the heavy barrels were 1:11 twist, regardless if they were LRP packages or not. Only the new 2021+ medium countour barrels have 1:12 twist.
I would get the NF 4-16. I got out to 800ish yards easily with 15x, and could have gone further. I could see clearly out to 1200 yards, I'm sure if I looked further I could have done it. I wouldn't take a shot further than 1k anyway. 36x would amplify movements quite a bit and might be more of a hindrance honestly.
Just got mine and put myself on the email list for the Geissele 417 charging handle restock alert was curious if you ever got yours or is this an unobtanium item and I should just expect to run the factory one?
I had a Sig 716- 16" DMR set up for years.....same engineers blah blah blah as the HK guns, you know the story. I had a Leupold 3-10 mil dot on it like the scopes on the knights O.G. in the GWOT. I shot it out to about 550YDS. in shitty conditions time and time again. It had three gas settings and I ran a Sico hybrid on it. H3 buffer red spring. It was a pussy cat to shoot. It broke my heart after about 5000 rds. when the gas block sheered off two positions one day, I don't know if someone twisted it without the D-tent pressed in while I was busy with something or what happened, but I was left only with the largest gas setting. Sig said they would try to make it right even though they were no longer being sold, but I just traded it to a buddy with an FFL and let him deal with them. They would have probably tried to give me their new gas driven "716Di" and I did not want that anyway. One day if all the stars align I WILL have an HK 417/MR762, because I love my my MR556. I have a shorty 10.4 HK barrel and a Brownells 14.5 heavy for it and it is my favorite gun by a damn big stretch. The hype is real folks. If you DEMAND performance and can afford it, HK is the way.
Me personally, for a precision application MR762. For a battle rifle, the SCAR 17.....with a torx torque wrench handy. They love to shake themselves apart on the sides.
What? I never saw a single hk 45 in this video! Shame bro lol. Priorities Also the Canadian version of this the mr308 has a (in my opinion) nicer sleeker handguard and but stock cuts nearly a pound. Barrel is identical. These are the coolest, most accurate 308 semis out there.
I took MR to 1km with Sellier bulk. The man silhuet dropped on third shot. But with scenars it is a lot better. A lot. I tested it to within minute and sellier was around 1.5. And very soft to shoot. The guy who has it now had it shoot PMC sierra load excellent, ofc lapua etc also works.
16 vs 18 is quite neglible, since if you look at wind values, they are exact same. Just more drop which is easy to compensate nowdays with rangefinders
Another friend of mine replaced his barrel after 10K of shots with Lothar barrel and it is SICK. He was doing 3.5cm to 7.5cm 5rnd groups with scenars at 300m. His tripod groups were 5cm to 9.5cm
I shot the 1km on a beach towards the sea and little downhill, like 20-30feet. So spotting hit was really fun. I say stick to one or 2 precision cartridges and stack them deep of one lot, so you can create and maintain a reliable dope. The cool gagdety bullets (bergers, tmks) are not good unless you can really justify them. You are not the only one fighting the urge to load / shoot them. But in reality, just building a dope requires quite many shots and so you better be OK with shooting a few.
My LGS had one of these used recently, a MR762 AND a MR556 came in at the same time! Still over $3k new, I NEARLY pulled the trigger on this but after some research I decided no I don't actually really need a 308 for a while, I don't hunt and I don't do long range stuff, do I still want one? Absolutely. They are bomb proof. Also, the MR556 and this are actually quite a bit heavier than I'd like as well, very thick and chonky forend on these guys, I can tell they are built to take a beating but do I want to be hauling one through the woods for miles, heck no lol. The proprietary mags probably helped sway me in the other direction too....which I ended up just getting a PS90 of all guns so I went totally the opposite direction of a 308 haha! Oh well...My brain is all over the place these days lol.
@@ryaniam22 I was on the fence for so long about the practicality of the round, kept thinking oh I'll have to stock yet another caliber. Honestly though I see the appeal now after shooting it a bit. So flat, it's like a spicy 22 but I know the ballistics aren't even close. I can nail a 2/3rd ipsc all day at 100 yards with nothing but a pistol red dot on this thing it's crazy accurate and fast follow ups, not that 556 is a ton of recoil to begin with but I get it now. And the gun itself is so light, the ammo doesn't weigh much either. I can carry 150 rounds of 5.7 in a backpack and almost forget it's there. Not even close to the same when comparing 9mm, if you're going to be hiking or carrying a lot for a long distance, I see this as a great shtf type rig if you wanna stay fast and light but it's easy to stuff is a bag and it is easy to conceal if you don't need it. Only thing that comes close to taking up a similar size footprint is a pcc or a folding AR. Ammo is coming down in price a lot now too since it's gaining in popularity. I'm sold on the thing lol.
What are your views on the MARS-H? They make no promises but I've seen and heard comparisons to the SR-25 with the LMT coming up as good if not better in some cases
I am considering the rifle possibly being the best option, yet being proprietary, the mags, bolt, barrel gas system means that finding parts could be impossible or even more expensive if production stopped. Possibly becoming more valuable if you think of it, but I think it would be a poor choice for survival.
Which is a fair and important series of checks to ensure you have what you need. I still recommend the rifle and getting parts while you cab. But it has to fit your requirements, not mine.
also, just wondering, is there going to be a Navyman Block II M4 "klone" build video review? I kinda need another guntuber to give me a reason to justify dropping $5-7k on a rifle + accessories and sights build.
I really want to get into an ar10 but can't justify the price before selling off my 6.5 bolt build. I have been looking into wilson combat barrels but might just hold out for 6 months to get a criterion hybrid.
I got a mr762 a couple months ago. I'm presently trying to figure out what optic and optic mount to put on it. There's a range a little over an hour from me that goes out to 1000 yards and I`m needing something to reach out that far.
First you will need a 1.54 20moa base mount for whatever you choose. Then the second thing I would recommend is the T6Xi 3-18 or a NF ATACR F1 4-16 to see out to 1000 yards.
Remember, H&K parts are overpriced, and allot of the AR308/AR15 parts are not compatible, because H&K go out of their way to make it incompatible/dimension problems. H&K really hate their own customers. So poor parts catalogue/options, and the little that are, is to be considered overpriced. And this is from Europe, where we actually can buy the German made MR223/MR308.
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Good lookin out. Thank you.
Mans hit literally nothing but dirt. Full auto on a DMR/battle rifle is dumb. You can't change my mind. Either drop caliber to an AR for FA, or employ the mighty MG.
Also for those interested in price, these go for about 4K these days, but in 2016, SR25’s we’re $3600 and today they are 6k plus
Holy shit . They can keep them for that$$$$. I'll buy 4 Ruger sfar instead. Some guys had issues but I figured it out. There awesome and super reliable,once the factory gas block is removed and replaced. Those just run n run.
SR25=overrated.
@@thepracticalriflemanmore like Severely-Overrated Rifle 25 lol
For anyone looking at AR10’s, make sure you look at the Seekins SP10 as well. Sub 3k, adjustable gas, lifetime warranty
In sniping competitions people carry these with joy for miles. Rather 16" MR than 24" bolt gun with a can.
The HK is excellent and used a lot.
Congrats to your MR762, very nice setup! I Appreciate the content.
Thanks so much, I appreciate yours. Thanks for dropping in.
I had two MR223 14.5" and I wanted my next rifle to be a 20" MR308. Then a new delivery from HK came into the gun store and I bought MR223 in 16.5". Now I wish I bought the MR308 in 20" but I guess that will be my next purchase.
I have Windham Weaponry SRC .308. Has a surprisingly light profile for a 308 and is chrome lined. It's not a target gun, it's a battle rifle, fun range blaster. No illusions about precision shooting.
For what this rifle cost, this dude should be able to shoot the dick off a hummingbird
Dude your timing on this is hilarious as I realized like today how I still don’t have this itch for the mr762 scratched yet.. literally a today thing. Damn dude you’d already sold me a Mk23 😂
Glad I could help lol.
4K man. That’s what they go for now. Hadn’t seen one in years and it was a grail piece for me so I jumped when I saw it. Painful but worth it. Snagged mine in April.
Smart, and they're creeping up for sure. Not as bad as SR25's. I want a second one. We'll see what happens.
I bought the LRP package with the G28 stock for $7000
Great video on an amazing rifle!
I went with an LMT LM8 in 308 and I couldn't be happier. I plan on getting a 6.5 Creedmoor barrel for it soon.
I definitely want one myself.
I got a Tavor 7 for my 7.62x51 option, and I love it. It shoots very comfortably. I don't have a long range to go to to test out long distance shooting, but I know it's more battle rifle focused than DMR focused. I do wish Geissele made a trigger/trigger pack for it though.
I like how h&k includes "unlined barrel", as if it were an added feature when really is the lack of one
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I’ve always been back and forth between this or the LMT MWS. But both my heart and brain say HK.
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Several things I want to touch on bases off this video. I own one and it’s like yours is extremely accurate by far more accurate then I am. Mine is a newer model date code CB and the finish although great has definitely chipped pretty bad on the deflector. The front pin is a pain to put back in… as for the internal components being proprietary isn’t much of a concern. Sure parts maybe harder to come by and not interchangeable but why would you want to interchange them to begin with. HK parts are ages ahead of 99.9% of competitors not only that but the internals will out live whatever round count you can put through this thing….
I’m obligated to mention the DD5 series because no one else has mentioned it, and it is superb value for money, while not skimping on capability.
Agreed. I just haven't had the opportunity to run one/speak on it.
Man I was so happy to hear you say that about the Geissele trigger because I could not tell if I was tweakin or not but I didn’t feel much difference in the pull weight. It’s a much cleaner break but I wasn’t satisfied because I have other Geissele triggers and was comparing it to those. I called Geissele twice asking if there was some way they could improve it but all they could come up with was a $12 spring kit which I installed but a still didn’t get the results I was looking for. My problem is at 700yds I felt the trigger was not light enough for me to hit a torso almost everytime I was hitting about 40%
Hey now I forgot to mention I am 40% on a torso sized target @ 700yds but that is using the cheapest ammo I can find which is 147gr Armscore and the misses are me not the rifles fault for sure. The MR762A1 is extremely accurate definitely more accurate than me.
@@mariotorano3781 That Armscor seems more like near-distance (100yds and in) training ammo. Never shot it myself but my .308 bolt gun has run a lot of different commercial loads, just out of curiosity. With a single rare exception the 147gr and 150gr loads aren't dependable even at 300yds for me. But good to learn the trigger pull, etc. Do yourself a favor and get some 168gr or 175gr of the kinds NAVYMAN suggested if you want to reach out 300+.
I have the lrp and like you mentioned, only shoot 168gr. Awesome review and thank you for all your knowledge!!!
Thanks for watching.
You tuber Mountains,Mullets,Merica was shooting the MR762 out to eleven hundred yards in high wind. I believe 185 juggernauts. He did a review of this rifle as well.
Wish they would do an mr65, some old timers at HK. Hopefully one day I’ll get one, it would be the cherry on top of my HK collection. Great review btw, probably the best on RUclips
Why would those be the only 3 AR10s worth having? Theres a whole bunch of them like the ADM. Heck, the old Sig 716 piston version is definitely worth having and i know that for sure because I have one and its quite accurate. Its extremely similar to the HK 417 honestly. Supposedly it was designed by one of the guys who designed the 417.
Love your content but I think a more accurate statement would be those are the only 3 AR10s worth having if you want to flex. I think at a certain point we get to a place where we're just spending money for the sake of it.
There are other good ones out there for sure. I've heard the old SIGs are good to go. Not sure about what they're turning out now. I haven't been able to run an ADM or seen one in the wild. I know they use Criterion barrels. I'll see if I can shoot one.
I’ve heard/seen the LWRC AR10’s are legit. I’ve got about 0.01% experience with AR10’s, let alone LWRC’s, but I do have two LWRC rifles, my SIX8 Razorback II, and my M6 IC-E which has been absolutely amazing and phenomenal with only a couple “failures” in just about 3500 rounds, which isn’t a lot I know, but was all ammunition related i.e. the ammunitions fault. So the LWRC AR10’s are definitely cheaper than H&K and Knights, but probably closer to LMT’s AR10 prices I imagine.
Anyways, good stuff once again my eventual fellow Veteran, I appreciate your videos and content my friend.
God bless~
I've heard good things about the lwrc AR10. But I haven't shot one. I've fired everything else, just never an LWRC.
791 yds from a 16" gun is incredible.
I am very happy I was able to do it, but it's definitely more the rifle than it is me. I had to dial deep into 9 mils to do it. I need to switch over to 175gr for sure.
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For 16” 175 is pretty much minimum grain. You can run also 165 but very high quality round. No less then that. Try out also 180 match grade ones. Btw 700 is walk in the park with this weapon with good ammo. The best possible ammo for precision is Swiss Ruag P target. Just animal round.
@@silentfog6924 I will check it out. I'm in the process of changing over to all 175gr now. I also want to give some 175gr Black Hills tipped match kings a try.
Tactical Kitty. Guest appearance!
Tactical Kitty, however, did step on snek. Not cool, TK. Not cool.
Awesome video, Navy dude. Thank you for your service, and thank you for making this informative review. All the more reasons to own a firearm made by HK.
You're not kidding about the price. I've been slowly building mine over the past 4 years after a friend gave me a BRN7 lower. Everything else has been HK parts, and its been quite the exercise in patience in collect and constantly budget and scan for parts. Hopefully it'll be done by the end of the year. Im excited to finish it and shoot it.
It's a great rifle, I hope you can get it done soon. Let me know how you like it once you get it up and running.
@@navyman8903 Will do. Not gonna lie, almost sold it all for parts just due to how long it was taking, but your video made me reconsider. So I appreciate it. Just seeing it partially put together has already given me some satisfaction, and being built after such a long time will be that much better.
Navyman: "Almost 4.25 inches, which is very long..."
Hah, that's not what she said 😭🤣
That’s why the Marines turned him down. So he joined the Navy. 😅
Big boy rifle. ❤
Henry with the big dunk..
Been eyeballing an AR10 build, but my range only go's to 550m.
My back hurts thinking of how heavy that thiiiccccccc Boi is
My back always hurts.
Come home to a new NAVYMAN video. Good times.
Can’t decide between the kahles 1-8 g3 or the Nightforce atacr for my mr762. Thanks for the review!
Well if the Kahles k18i is anything like the Kahles k16i I can say it's has the best hlass clarity. If you do go Kahles they are coming out with their K18i Gen 2 with a 150ft FOV at 1x in September
@@AlexS-zr2nbThanks for the info! Are they sticking with 30mm?
@Redbusser40 yeah it's still a 24mm objective lense and 30mm tube to my knowledge. I dont know the specifics of what ever Kraut space magic their using to pull it off, but it's going to be lit. I'm just super happy I didn't buy the K18i 3 weeks ago and went with the k16i
Personally I would go with the ATACR. For the FFP, 34mm tube, bomb proof ruggedness and DMX reticle. But that's for me.
I choose the Atacr for mine. Couldn’t be happier, best scope I’ve ever had. Clarity is insane and the red dot is very very bright.
Awesome video man. Very informative and a solid take on the MR as precision rifle vs BR that I totally agree with. Personally I love the mayflower triple magazine shingle they used to make for the 417. Tough to find but the best option for a carrier out of everything I’ve tried. As for suppressor use, I run a RC2 and added a waffenburke AGB and it runs really well. Could be worth checking out if your still trying to tune your Mr for your suppressor. Usually there’s guys on Pro selling them for MSRP (500ish USD).
Fun Fact: Battle rifles don't need to be full auto. Rifles that are chambered in a full powered cartridge and have a detachable box magazine are classified as battle rifles and are capable of being DMRs . I don't know if the Canadian FAL meets this definition because its a integrated mag fed by clips but there's an exception to every rule so the HK417 is a battle rifle that can be placed in different roles such as a DMR based on the model. The HK G28 was designed for the DMR role and although it meets the criteria for being a battle rifle, it most likely won't be classified as one because of it design purpose, weight and the precision instruments used with it.
About Time Navyman.Great review bro.Keep it up
You think a 1;11 is much of an upgrade? I bought the mr762 before i heard the LRP had a faster twist rate, kinda wish i would have gotten that and tried to recoup some money by selling the shit optic.
The optic is definitely shit and I'm not sure at this point since I haven't fired one. But I would still like to get one and try it out. There's a forum thread on the 1:12 twist vs the 1:11 for the MR762. The barrel length kinda makes it a moot point from what the guy was saying. But that said, I would still like to get one to have a backup and test it out. Might only be apparent with the heaviest bullets or the furthest distances.
What’s your preferred 7.62 ammo? What do you prefer for plinking, and what would you use for defense?
Geco bulk has done well in Europe. For precision any sierra load will do, but test few different weights. Dunno about self-defense, it is a 308, pretty much any bullet with 3000J will drop a man. However, for 223 sierras do have expansion but it is not as reliable as gold dot or others alike.
I used the same ammo for defense as I do for practice. Which is expensive. Currently I'm using 168gr SMK Federal Gold Medal Match. I also used Black Hills 168gr SMK when I could find it. But now I'm going to start using Federal Gold Medal Match 175gr SMKs and Black Hills as well. Maybe some 175gr TMK if I'm feeling like I hate money and can find it.
The stock trigger on my MR felt like it was 7-8 lbs. Terrible. Dropped in the Geisle and it shoots like a dream. Then put a Schmidt 5-20 up top and a OSS 762 TI out front. Ka-ching. Hitting steel at 1K yards easy. And loading the mags is oddly satisfying. They are works of art.
Found you from jang-gun. Good vid. Thanks for more info to decide on how to build my .308.
Thanks for watching and I appreciate it.
Cool review. I like the idea of messing with full power rifles, but they just cost too much to mess with imo.
On another random note: Ever thought about doing some competitions?
I used to shoot FDCC here, but so did my whore ex wife. So.....not trying to run into that crowd. I did post one of my matches. I came in right at the upper 1/3 . I could have done better if someone didn't spin my turrets. I am eager to do it. But time and the social circles are a barrier at the moment.
@@navyman8903 😬 My bad.
@SnapD24 lol you're fine man. Don't expect you to know that. Happy 4th by the way.
@@navyman8903 Happy freedom day!
"the ejectors and extractors are very well sprung and are guaranteed to pull out"
~Navyman.
there are some cool pics of cag using 417's with an eotech and g33 from earlier in gwot
Thank you so much for this.
I have MR762 and DD5 and love both. DD5 is extremely accurate and has a CL barrel. Both shoot great suppressed.
Excellent. I might get a DD to use as a BR.
@@navyman8903 I'm using a Surefire RC2 full size 7.62 on both. Surprisingly little backpressure. Didn't even need to use the suppressor setting on the DD5. In fact it didn't have enough gas to run so I just left it on normal setting. RC2 is designed with reduced backpressure I found out later.
Great video Navy Man. Is this the long range version of the 762? Thanks and keep up the good work?
Standard model, but I'm hearing the old thick barrels have the 1:11 twist. Same as the LRP.
Navy,
I’ve mentioned before I have an older LWRC REPR and it is a 16 inch heavy barrel that has been ultra reliable and I’m getting about the same accuracy as you with 168 grain, side note I lose a little accuracy when I move up to 175 grain. My gun likes the 168 the best so that’s what I use when I’m shooting for ultimate accuracy. Like you it’s the most expensive rifle I own and I use it to mostly hunt with. Thanks for the info on your HK and I’d like to know how your rifle likes the 175 grain when you start using it.
Thanks
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Nice. I haven't been able to mess with one. I'm hoping to get the chance. Thanks for letting me know.
The rock n roll music playing while being still and shooting kills me everytime 😂😂😂😂😂
Yeah, the footage isn't really all that cool unfortunately.
@@navyman8903 it's cool bro it's just a meme you reminded that we had way back in the day the gun RUclipsrs did and one of it was playing hard music
@Egnatius lol yeah, I know what you're getting at.
Stop it, like I need another HK....great review.
Lol. Thanks I appreciate it.
HARAMBE IS ALIVE!
I put the ATACR 1-8 on my LRP III I couldn't take the Vortex man. Love this rifle...
Excellent decision. The Vortex is an awful pairing.
@@navyman8903 yeah I’d have paid more for a better scope and had it as part of the package- the good news is I was able to give the scope and mount to a buddy who needed it but doesn’t have the cash for it. Good guy and struggling a bit.
791 yards??? You sure it wasn't 790.5 yards??? Lol good video man, just F'n with you...
Another good one, thank you.
Thanks for watching as always.
The bolt tension is the result of firing pin being under the spring tension.
I'm kinda assmad the LRPs try to bundle you into a specific optic. I'm kinda surprised they're offered like that when the base rifle is different too.
Yeah.....They're charging you premium outfitter money and giving you a poortex. Unacceptable.
@@navyman8903yep. I just bought one but since I don’t have any scopes for higher end shit I’ll keep it and upgrade and not be as pissed off about the bundle. If I already had budget scopes I’d be annoyed however
I've been seeing these pop up occasionally around $3k. I have a SCAR17, but don't shoot it very much. It's setup as a battle rifle with a light and ACOG, but I agree with your point about 308 platforms. I think 308 semi auto in general are more suited for a DMR role than a "run and gun." If I have to move with the gun, I'm choosing between my SP5 and SCAR16. No one wants to run with a big heavy battle rifle. I guess what I'm trying to say is the time may be coming that I dump my beloved SCAR17 and pick up one of these to build out for a true DMR role... I'm lucky to have access to a family farm where we can shoot just over 800yd, so I would get to stretch the legs on this.
Miss’s navy man. Glad to see a recent upload. Well hello there!
I put together my AR-10 precision using Noveske 16" 308 barrel with headspaced bolt, ZEV billet receiver set, Veltor A5 buffer system, and the PRI carbon fiber handguard. Optic, I went with the N.F. atacr 1-8 and I have taken it out to 800 yds with no problem. If I had the money I'd go the same route you did great video.
Sounds like a solid build. Thanks for watching.
Tactical tailor makes double 20rnd soft pouches. I can fit 6 mags on my carrier. And criterion was the only manufacturer I could find with a chrome lined LR-308 barrel. It was worth it though.
Good looking out. I'll take a look at it.
@@navyman8903 returning the favor
the 762 trigger is superior to the 556. i think both of mine are from 2012 0r 2013 id have to dig out the receipts. i like the stock trigger and quad rail. im a real sicko. forgot to mention i practice at 1000yards with my 762 i use smk175 and ppu175match. the ppu isnt bad for the money try a box. i shoot at a few types of paper targets and steel reactive plates. i use the police training silhouettes 21x24in and the slow pistol 50yard paper targets also 21x24in. im not going to go into numbers and brag or tell fish stories but i will say this. i keep all the rounds on paper i usually do 40rds a target and value each shot at a score of 2.5%. on the silhouettes. or add up the score of the numbers with a max score of 400points with 10 being the most points x40rds. the slow fire is a bullseye type target and i try to keep every thing in the black 8in circle. The rifles amazing.
Very nice. Do you know what twist you have? I got people telling me mine is 1:11 because it's the thick barrel. I'm not sure now. You know that thing where people say something enough to make you doubt yourself?
@@navyman8903 lol indeed. if my memory serves me right i called hk and asked because i think the manual says 1x12. Hk told me 1x11 twist to stabilize 168 and 175
Spent all my money on 556 builds, guess if I want to chunk 308 Ill have to freshen up my 1993 M1-a.. nice gun though.
POF usa makes a piston 308 that uses some ar15 parts
You have to get your triggers on black Friday i usually try to get two. My wifes niece i knew always carried and i always thought that was cool untul i found out she had hk 556 , i was so jealous im the guy un the family that has all the guns . I guess quality over quantity wins i still think shes pretty cool .
Oh I absolutely take advantage of sales.
Very nice setup.
Thanks, I'm very happy with it.
I’m a big fan of LaRue offerings. It seems to get forgotten about. They are outstanding. But yeah you’ve gotta wait awhile for one.
They do indeed and I haven't seen one in the wild yet.
THE WEST HAS RISEN WE ARE SO BACK
Have you reviewed the XCR? I'm looking to get one and I respect your opinion.
"If it doesn't have the slant cut... it's not as good."
Like buying a Ferrari... but in puke green, not red.
Nice work on the bad rest, no rear bag, no bipod, 168gr long shots. Backpack full of mags, mildly more conforming than some whole & broken bricks. You can say it's all the rifle, but anyone who shoots half-regularly knows better.
Were you running TAP ELD AR or TAP ELD Precision? I've had significantly different results running these two different rounds from a HB MR762.
Also, you have the 1:11 twist barrel. All the heavy barrels were 1:11 twist, regardless if they were LRP packages or not. Only the new 2021+ medium countour barrels have 1:12 twist.
DMR and sniping is definitely not a poorman's game.
I'll wait till I can afford Scar 20s or something to really jump-in
I just read somewhere that beyond 16.5 you don’t really gain accuracy. I’m curious about if that’s true
Do you think a Vortex 6-36x56 is too much optic for this rifle? Not sure if I want it or if I should get a NF 4-16x or something else
I would get the NF 4-16. I got out to 800ish yards easily with 15x, and could have gone further. I could see clearly out to 1200 yards, I'm sure if I looked further I could have done it. I wouldn't take a shot further than 1k anyway. 36x would amplify movements quite a bit and might be more of a hindrance honestly.
Just got mine and put myself on the email list for the Geissele 417 charging handle restock alert was curious if you ever got yours or is this an unobtanium item and I should just expect to run the factory one?
I too am on the list.
I had a Sig 716- 16" DMR set up for years.....same engineers blah blah blah as the HK guns, you know the story. I had a Leupold 3-10 mil dot on it like the scopes on the knights O.G. in the GWOT. I shot it out to about 550YDS. in shitty conditions time and time again. It had three gas settings and I ran a Sico hybrid on it. H3 buffer red spring. It was a pussy cat to shoot. It broke my heart after about 5000 rds. when the gas block sheered off two positions one day, I don't know if someone twisted it without the D-tent pressed in while I was busy with something or what happened, but I was left only with the largest gas setting. Sig said they would try to make it right even though they were no longer being sold, but I just traded it to a buddy with an FFL and let him deal with them. They would have probably tried to give me their new gas driven "716Di" and I did not want that anyway. One day if all the stars align I WILL have an HK 417/MR762, because I love my my MR556. I have a shorty 10.4 HK barrel and a Brownells 14.5 heavy for it and it is my favorite gun by a damn big stretch. The hype is real folks. If you DEMAND performance and can afford it, HK is the way.
I legit struggle with going back and forth between this and the SCAR 17S
Me personally, for a precision application MR762. For a battle rifle, the SCAR 17.....with a torx torque wrench handy. They love to shake themselves apart on the sides.
Also suppressed use, NOT a SCAR 17.
Interesting. Why do you say so on suppressed? The SF SOCOM RC seems to be alright.
Also, green loctite on those torque screws 😉
@@navyman8903my 17 purrs like a kitten suppressed but I went to a 1.3 gas jet, stock gas jet not so much 😂
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I learned a lot thanks.
Thanks for watching.
RIP Harambe
The weight on the SFAR has me looking at an AR10 for the first time, though.
What? I never saw a single hk 45 in this video! Shame bro lol. Priorities
Also the Canadian version of this the mr308 has a (in my opinion) nicer sleeker handguard and but stock cuts nearly a pound. Barrel is identical. These are the coolest, most accurate 308 semis out there.
I took MR to 1km with Sellier bulk. The man silhuet dropped on third shot. But with scenars it is a lot better. A lot. I tested it to within minute and sellier was around 1.5. And very soft to shoot. The guy who has it now had it shoot PMC sierra load excellent, ofc lapua etc also works.
16 vs 18 is quite neglible, since if you look at wind values, they are exact same. Just more drop which is easy to compensate nowdays with rangefinders
That's incredible shooting. I hope to do that one day. I'm going to need 175gr TMK I think. My glass can see it, I just need to get out there.
Another friend of mine replaced his barrel after 10K of shots with Lothar barrel and it is SICK.
He was doing 3.5cm to 7.5cm 5rnd groups with scenars at 300m. His tripod groups were 5cm to 9.5cm
I shot the 1km on a beach towards the sea and little downhill, like 20-30feet. So spotting hit was really fun.
I say stick to one or 2 precision cartridges and stack them deep of one lot, so you can create and maintain a reliable dope. The cool gagdety bullets (bergers, tmks) are not good unless you can really justify them. You are not the only one fighting the urge to load / shoot them. But in reality, just building a dope requires quite many shots and so you better be OK with shooting a few.
My LGS had one of these used recently, a MR762 AND a MR556 came in at the same time! Still over $3k new, I NEARLY pulled the trigger on this but after some research I decided no I don't actually really need a 308 for a while, I don't hunt and I don't do long range stuff, do I still want one? Absolutely. They are bomb proof. Also, the MR556 and this are actually quite a bit heavier than I'd like as well, very thick and chonky forend on these guys, I can tell they are built to take a beating but do I want to be hauling one through the woods for miles, heck no lol. The proprietary mags probably helped sway me in the other direction too....which I ended up just getting a PS90 of all guns so I went totally the opposite direction of a 308 haha! Oh well...My brain is all over the place these days lol.
PS90'S are the bomb bro! I wish it was made in 556 and then it'd be my favorite rifle ever. As is it is super cool.
@@ryaniam22 I was on the fence for so long about the practicality of the round, kept thinking oh I'll have to stock yet another caliber. Honestly though I see the appeal now after shooting it a bit. So flat, it's like a spicy 22 but I know the ballistics aren't even close. I can nail a 2/3rd ipsc all day at 100 yards with nothing but a pistol red dot on this thing it's crazy accurate and fast follow ups, not that 556 is a ton of recoil to begin with but I get it now. And the gun itself is so light, the ammo doesn't weigh much either. I can carry 150 rounds of 5.7 in a backpack and almost forget it's there. Not even close to the same when comparing 9mm, if you're going to be hiking or carrying a lot for a long distance, I see this as a great shtf type rig if you wanna stay fast and light but it's easy to stuff is a bag and it is easy to conceal if you don't need it. Only thing that comes close to taking up a similar size footprint is a pcc or a folding AR. Ammo is coming down in price a lot now too since it's gaining in popularity. I'm sold on the thing lol.
so dedicating one to a supply chain management system, which parts are commonly replacement parts for MR762?
Wouldn't say common, but I would have a spare bolt and buffer spring. Also a firing pin/firing pin spring.
What are your views on the MARS-H? They make no promises but I've seen and heard comparisons to the SR-25 with the LMT coming up as good if not better in some cases
I am considering the rifle possibly being the best option, yet being proprietary, the mags, bolt, barrel gas system means that finding parts could be impossible or even more expensive if production stopped. Possibly becoming more valuable if you think of it, but I think it would be a poor choice for survival.
Which is a fair and important series of checks to ensure you have what you need. I still recommend the rifle and getting parts while you cab. But it has to fit your requirements, not mine.
also, just wondering, is there going to be a Navyman Block II M4 "klone" build video review? I kinda need another guntuber to give me a reason to justify dropping $5-7k on a rifle + accessories and sights build.
One day, but it's going to be a while.
Just snagged one from PSA on sale for $3300 in 2024 money, can't beat that price.
Excellent work. Well done!!!!
I really want to get into an ar10 but can't justify the price before selling off my 6.5 bolt build. I have been looking into wilson combat barrels but might just hold out for 6 months to get a criterion hybrid.
The ADM might be the way forward for you. They use Criterion barrels.
Have you tried the old Mak 90 AK or SKS
magazine carriers for the MR762 magazines?
No, but that's a good idea.
Is it true that putting a suppressor on it voids the warranty?
Yes, but it's up to HK if they're going to warranty it or not at that point.
@@navyman8903 HK really does hate us
Dang. I could have removed the watermark in that harambe art for you if you asked.
You're good man, I didn't want to bother you.
Good video. What about the ZEV rifle for a 7.62 platform?
I love JTAC
Me too. It's a great facility with a good group of people.
@@navyman8903 ask Eric to tell you how to say “RIS 3 “ rail lol
I got a mr762 a couple months ago. I'm presently trying to figure out what optic and optic mount to put on it. There's a range a little over an hour from me that goes out to 1000 yards and I`m needing something to reach out that far.
First you will need a 1.54 20moa base mount for whatever you choose. Then the second thing I would recommend is the T6Xi 3-18 or a NF ATACR F1 4-16 to see out to 1000 yards.
@@navyman8903 thanks for the reply, I`ll check those out.
I'd say JP and LaRue are top of line, and you can buy them more then once a year
780 with my Sig 716 and 175s is easy hits all day
Remember, H&K parts are overpriced, and allot of the AR308/AR15 parts are not compatible, because H&K go out of their way to make it incompatible/dimension problems. H&K really hate their own customers.
So poor parts catalogue/options, and the little that are, is to be considered overpriced. And this is from Europe, where we actually can buy the German made MR223/MR308.
Has anyone had trouble with the HK Mags not going into lock position ?
I want the LRP so badly
Me too. I want a second MR762.
I bought one and cried dearly. Gets here Thursday
Shoot a LaRue… “only 3 worth having” there are many worth having my man lmao
This or the LMT MARS-H?
HK for precision. LMT for battle rifle or 6.5cm.