HE RAGE QUITS AGAIN! | Dave vs Jake & Sarah
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The MYTH of the consensual poly relationship
Jake: I consent
Sarah: I consent
Man who will never be involved: I DONT
Isn’t there someone you forgot to ask?
"I don't have a problem with ignorance. We are all ignorant about a variety of subjects we are not currently aware of. The real problem is when that ignorance is wilful, intentional and used as a weapon against anyone who disagrees with you, or anyone who has the nerve to present facts you don't want to accept."
- anyone who actually cares about verifiable reality
It's completely insane, I like when my boyfriend comes home with a guy. He is likely to think I am also hot because my boyfriend has talked about me. But let's say worst-case scenario, he does not like me... okay well my boyfriend's opinion of the guy is gonna dip cuz we are in love and so that is a red flag he does not like something about my boyfriend.
We have done this before. Some guy we have slept with has a problem with one of us and we see this will be an issue, so we depart from being sexual partners or normally even friends.
They forgot to ask Jesus. 😂
"poly relationships dont work" only counter argument is a celebrity where one party wasnt really on board, while he has to counter examples where it works right there. then prceeds to tell it doesnt work because both parties arent into it. yeah well pretty close to nothing between two people works if one party isnt into it. amazing logic
“When men make the mistake of falling in love” - it always turns out to be “who hurt you bro” with these guys
I feel like it's not that as often as we'd think. Rather, guys like this constantly got rejected at the get go by women (for obvious reasons), and sank into Reddit thread after Reddit thread of how women are bitchy, greedy, malicious, the worst people alive, blah blah blah.
Tbh though the answer is still usually themself and they're still continuing to hurt themselves.
He was jerking off and caught his reflection in his neighbor's bathroom mirror. He thinks of her scream everytime he passes a similar enough rosebush.
For me the answer is simple:
Me
The answer is always "themselves"...
Never underestimate a narcissists burning lust to manufacture oppression for themselves when faced with even the most reasonable and minor criticism.
“so let’s say you were at the bar”
“I don’t go to the bar, ever”
“You’re at the club”
“I don’t-“
“You’re at the GROCERY STORE >:( “
Hearing this man unironically scream about being a “sigma male” in his Squidward voice was hands down the funniest part of this conversation.
I'm a ligma male
"I just told you how your DICK WORKS!!" fucking murdered me. I'm dead now, and I'm typing this from the afterlife.
absolute best part of the whole vid no contest
Holy crap. I didn't think I would black out my full "not an alchololic" bingo card half way through Sarah's cross examination.
I was honestly losing it
@@legndofphoenix hi Sarah! You did awesome against that sloppy sad blob.
I think Dave thinks too highly of the "neuclear familly." Just because a relationship ends, doesn't make it a failure. Just because a relationship is still going, doesn't mean it's successful. Any bond between people that is trustworthy and unbroken, is successful. Friendships, family, lovers, etc. Maybe he should try therapy. I think he has an unhealthy expectation of being with someone.
_"Just because a relationship ends, doesn't make it a failure."_ Exatly! The fact our society can not see this is completely bonkers. I have had lovers that I split with, I had a guy that I had a relationship with a guy on a vacation. I was visiting New York, we had a relationship and I had to leave one day and we did not see him for five years and we did it again.
Poor Dave just wants someone to love him but he instantly repels everyone capable of doing so with his toxic beliefs and attitude.
He is quite possibly the saddest human in existence. I don't even think he has other men that he hangs out with. Just a sad lonely alcoholic. I'd feel bad for him if it were not his fault and he genuinely wanted to improve himself
Dave is a cactus that just wants to be hugged.
@@zenbear9952 He’d be absolutely tragic if he weren’t so fucking committed to it, but the man’s in love with misery. He’s a terminal one-strapper. If he tries, he can’t keep telling himself he’s too cool to care. Might have to take a risk at some point. Dude is terrified to live his life.
@@Kropothead he's still pretty tragic to me. The good Lord didn't bless the man with a highly functional brain and just set him loose in this cruel world, basically defenseless.
He even bragged about that. I forget the exact wording, but it was something like "I tell people like it is" when he was describing what him being a sigma meant.
Dave has three responses:
1. I don’t care
2. Evil laugh
3. Yell
4. "I would rather have a urethra"
😂
5. Its human nature
Bruh what is this bugged bethesda dialogue tree?
6. Statistics he randomly pulls out of his ass
@@dontuserachelslurs The best part is he smugly laughs saying "You do not know what that is do you?" Dave, you, myself, and Jake are all "getting a urethra" right now, we have been our for our entire life.
I'm genuinely worried by a person who says mushrooms are bad and alcohol is good, and I used to be a highly functional alcoholic myself.
Dave says most poly relationships end in disaster. Dave, most relationships end in a bad way! Have you seen what so many of us straights do during break ups?!
Ya, Dave seems to only want to count marriages for some reason too, forgetting 1- how many marriages end in divorce and 2- how many relationships most people have prior to a marriage. He is counting every poly break up while ignoring 99% of straight ones.
@@__Andrew yes, the confirmation bias and motivated reasoning is staggering
Getting a urethra was my favorite part of this.
I just got to this part and I'm fucking dying.
Send help
I wish I had a urethra, I've been holding my pee for so long 😢
@@TheDoggyGIR you're in luck! I have an extra from watching this video.
I wish I had a urethra - a man who needs to piss
@@SeverelyGlitchy Socialism means that’s The People’s Urethra! Comrade to Comrade! 🎖
"But you didn't share those memories with anyone, you're lonely" -- DAMN SARAH
Sarah was ice cold for that one, and I love her for it.
Hello, 9-1-1? I just witnessed a murder.
Absolutely savage. Like damn!! 😂😂
Honestly, I have memories I share with a woman I loved for two years, and it was the worst decision I ever made.
Now I have to spend the rest of my life remembering this shit.
Ok, I have to give it to Dave. He is an absolute laugh riot without even trying. I fucking lost it at "Cause I'm the only Sigma male you've ever met?". Goddamn that was funny for all the wrong reasons. 😂
I mean his clock rant probably had me laughing harder than anything in my life so I have to agree
@@EvanKashvi knowing how he cooks, it makes sense why the clocks were all wrong because he doesn’t even know how to use google
@@DemoWarlock tbf, using google is hard as
Lol I love how early on in the stream Dave said that poly relationships don't "work" meaning that they don't last for a long time, but then rage quits after admitting that he's never had any long term relationships. *Chefs kiss*
He doesn't even have any friends, what do you expect?
How did he go from "polyamory bad" to "slavery not so bad" wtf
I also love how he was screaming about how the constitution of the revolution had nothing to do with slavery. Like bro, has he never heard of the 13th amendment?
I mean when he said he's not an alcoholic and then described the most "functional alcoholic" shit on earth, we knew that all his points were beyond stupid 😂
How insane does his worldview have to be in order for THE AMERICAN CIVIL WAR to not qualify as political violence?
“10 beers a day.”
I’m legitimately concerned. Dave needs help… badly. And he doesn’t even know he needs it. He’s likely doing serious damage to his liver and maybe even his hippocampus
That...actually explains a lot.
My brother got into drinking too hard... its really rough to watch someone 'fall off their game' while still trying to do the business of life. He started a transport company one month before covid and we all went bust together... but me, I LOVE downtime, slack philosophy etc... he's too OCD not to have something to do all day.
He's doing ok now, I think... has a new job to keep him busy, money/confidence again. Its rough seeing a loved one break tho, and alcohol, well... not my favorite
yeah i'm a recovered alcoholic. the worst part is that if he hasn't already attempted to stop, he likely has no clue how severe the physical aspect of the addiction is. Even at only 10 beers a day, the withdrawal can be extremely dangerous and occasionally fatal.
I doubt it's only 10, tbh.
Shit if 10 beers a day is serious Im not due long
Those Franzia 1.5 liter boxes of wine?? One a day.
38:36 "The person who is brutally honest enjoys the brutality quite as much as the honesty. Possibly more." - Richard J. Needham
Dave and Jake are love hate besties
it's like joker and batman 🤣
Gonna tell my kids this is Big Boss and Revolver Ocelot
Hey fyi next time you're asked to give an example of a famous poly relationship that worked, you can use Professor William Marston, his wife Elizabeth Marston, and their partner Olive Byrne. They invented the comics character of Wonder Woman, and also raised children together.
Ooh, good call. I love that story.
Popped in to say this. It's very well documented.
That is awesome!!!!
Also Schrodinger ( the one with a cat ) had a wife and a partner . He and his wife refuse to get out of Nazi Germany until there partner gets out as well ( which is why I don't like when people call her his mistress because I would not have stayed in Nazi Germany for somebody my partner is cheating on me with). All 3 lived in Dublin where he got to work because it was the only place thet would not judge them
This would actually be a good example cause these terminally online chuds only understand comics and pop culture so having the example tied to wonder woman makes it more effective for them I think.
Dave screams about definitions but literally couldn’t set clocks to be accurate
Facts. And those clocks, let's not forget, were hilariously wrong.
I'm not sure who this Dave guy is, but damn. He just sounds overall bitter about everything.
It's a very long saga with many arcs
Thats because he is
Jeez.
Yeah that’s… pretty much it.
Welp. I hope he finds happiness, because his nihilism was extremely sad.
Oh my God, he's 41??? Somehow I feel like I knew this but I forget every time. Boy, if that's not a man that blows up my theory that media saturation has destroyed our ability to gauge people's age accurately. Holy fuck, Dave having the balls to tell Sarah what she wants _as a woman_ . Love her on Twitter, love her even more here.
Huh, finding out Dave is an ultra capitalist is really interesting. There's something very cold about the way he looks at it all that makes me both perplexed and very sad. Jesus, this is the dark night of Dave's soul.
This got incredibly sad in the latter half. Dave is a completely broken man
100% just an alcoholic. Very sad.
I’m an alcoholic and I felt bad. Like holy shit
@@someonerandom8552 I know a couple alcoholics and they aren't as sad as Dave.
Having known and speaking to addicts, Dave ticks every single box.
if you had told me at the beginning that, by the end, i would actually feel terrible for that guy, I would have laughed...but, holy shit...he needs help.
sweet fuck, this turned into just the absolute saddest thing imaginable at breakneck speeds
“Nobody creates art for art’s sake”
Welp… I guess the drawings I made don’t exist
Never heard of fanart! Most fan artista do it for free.
For reference Dave's stated habit is $455 a month assuming he drinks exclusively Coors light and buys in bulk. $5,460 a year.
Dave should switch to smoking. It's less expensive and he'd hopefully be able to function much better, plus he'd (hopefully anyway) go outside every two hours or so so he could touch some fucking grass
@@blomharetreshagen2498 He does, but it's those cheap gas station cigars
Damn I’m an alcoholic
But I don’t spend that much all the same
Rookie numbers
“I’d be fine if a virus destroyed all coffee”!? God damn it Jake. Now I have no choice but to buy into Dave’s entire belief system!
Can I just say, I sort of feel for Dave. All this disdain for "getting cucked" reveals an insecuritt, a fear of not being seen as interesting enough, or useless, or boring, a fear of getting cheated and dumped. I feel the same way. I am crying to the heavens, desperate for a partner that will not leave me and will put up with my quirks and issues. Still tho, I had enough respect for myself to not became a chud over it.
First time encountering Dave? I feel like if you haven't seen the other content of his Jake has covered, you are missing some context. Non of it good, though. Pretty much reinforces what you've said here.
@@SeverelyGlitchy no I've seen at least the gloop saga and some other sht tho it was some time ago. He's an awful person all around, but I can at least get some of the reason why he actsike that abt relationships.
I like someone but because of my history of constant rejection, I'm afraid of following through and telling him. My friends say he definitely likes me back but I'm too afraid to commit to my own feelings in fear of being abandoned again. Him and I have been friends for almost a year and he always checks in on me every morning. I just have no hope for myself ever having a lasting and healthy relationship that I'm not going to tell him at all. I'm not a chud, luckily
Dave has big "My girlfriend lives in Canada, you wouldn't know her" vibes.
jakes energy while shit talking, giving play-by-plays & highlights in a fit of hysterical laughter like an announcer for the most unhinged competition of all time is an absolute gift
I can see why he avoids doing too many of these... its low-key bullying and VERY fun... only ok because Dave asked for it but ooooh does it make my pity war with my sadism.
It really never fails... Every time some guy starts a debate with "Women are more emotional than men" they inevitably end up screaming through the entire thing, then rage quitting.
Edit: Man, now that I'm almost done with the video it's kinda sad. I'm actually feeling a tiny bit sorry for this guy. His whole world view regarding love, friendship, and selflessness (which he bizarrely confuses for selfishness) is so fundamentally broken. It sounds like this man has never had a kindness done for him his entire life without someone wanting something in return, and it's messed him up so badly that he needs to drink ten beers a day and keep up this edgy boi front in order to deal with the pain.
Yeah Dave has practically become something of a personal project Jake has taken on. He's legitimately tried to give Dave advice and tasks to help him improve his life, because clearly the guy isn't happy and I'm pretty sure even has admitted as much. But he also doesn't want to listen, even though what he's been doing hasn't been working.
All gloves are off when it comes to the food, though. Lord of Gloop and all that.
“It sounds like this man has never had a kindness done for him his entire life without someone wanting something in return” that’s probably NOT the case, he’s just terminally online. And/or he could have some depression, which he’s managing badly w/ alcohol.
@@JackgarPrime I still can not believe that he thinks he can cook better than Jake... I mean he is not Cooking with Jack bad, his food likely does taste good, but it is all college dorm room stoner food good. It is the kind of food I was making at thirteen. Granted I think I found the throughline, it is the kind of food I make when I am depressed.
Like I have a dish called antidepressants and it is "Braindead Chili" over an entire party-size bag of Fritos, topped with 1.5 pounds of cheese. It tastes good, but is it good food? No, no it is very bad food, it takes no effort or skill.
I work with some religious fundamentalists who described their childhoods to me, a lot of "belt and the Bible" stuff, and it was CLEARLY child abuse... and they don't even realize it because they have nothing else to compare it to. Most of their friends had the hell beat out of them and suffered a bunch of emotional cruelty, too, so they think that's "normal." I'm thinking Dave was raised miserably by miserable people and he thinks that's "normal." He can't face it that he's badly messed up and not dealing with it well at all, so he rages at everyone happier because he thinks they're "pretending." I'm not sure Dave is a sociopath -- he's not charming or skilled enough - but it's the same way sociopaths think everyone else is running a scam on everyone else, too. Whenever THEY'RE nice, it's because they have ulterior motives, so they think EVERYONE is like that. It's like how conservative are always labeling virtuous behavior as "virtue-signaling" -- they think anything anyone does to help anyone else is some kind of con... because that's the only reason THEY do it.
Dave rages against the idea that there's a better way to live than the only one he seems capable of.
Don't give these guys that much credit, he just has low empathy and can't conceive that other people don't think and feel the same way he does.
Dave is a guy who watched 2012 Amazing Athiest on repeat and thought he could repeat TJ's success by sounding like him and blindly saying offensive things.
There was even a running joke on The Drunken Peasants back in the day that Dave is one of TJ’s botched clones 😂
Listening to Dave speak is so exhausting, but it’s worth enduring due to how funny it is seeing jake have to explain things like a baby to this grown ass man.
It doesn't matter how old you are if your brain never got past toddler.
I just take breaks
I've had 5 relationships, 4 mono and 1 poly.
In my experience, monogamy doesn't work 😂😂😂
"So it didn't work out with the person you made up the last time we talked?"
"Nope"
GOATED MOMENT
I've never heard someone be so wrong about literally everything they talked about
And be so confident at the same time
Dave views the world through the SparkNotes of 'Atlas Shrugged'
the raw meat in a cold pan man strikes again
He's impervious to texture.
If you think Dave's cooking is bad, I have 2 words for you: Jack Scalfani
Omg, Jake and Sarah are so wholesome. Love beats hate❤
Learning Dave paints solely for profit is probably the most depressing thing I've heard. I hate the grind mindset where you have to monetize every single aspect of your life. Is his only hobby drinking?
Dave really is just a raw nerve of a human being. Anything anyone says he just has to lash out about, and compulsively get the last word in. It's really sad
"Name a successful polyamorous relationship!"
William Moulton Marston, his wife Elizabeth, and their girlfriend Olive all raised a family together and each had successful careers in their own right. Dr. Marston, in addition to pioneering technology for the first lie-detector tests, is most well-known for creating Wonder Woman with the help of his wife and their partner.
That's right, Nerds. You wouldn't have Wonder Woman without polyamory!
This is why I kind of think it's kind of a shame that no one's ever tried to write Diana in a poly relationship. Obviously, her relationships aren't required to mirror her creator's, but it would be neat.
@@thebeavpercabethftw9604 The comic incels could never, EVER stomach it. Dave would be at the front as the leader and sigma he is in protest
Dave is so bitter, but he’s bitter to the point where I almost don’t feel bad anymore, and he’s one of those people who cracks me up just by talking.
This started out funny. Like he's such a fucking stereotype of toxic masculinity nonsense. I was laughing my ass off for the first hour.
But, honestly, the more it went on, the more sad it got. Hopefully, he just felt backed into a corner and just started spouting off bullshit, but the alternative... If he really believes half the stuff he's spouting than I can honestly say I don't think I've ever pitied someone more than him. I can't imagine living a life where the only drive was money, regardless of who or what you ended up damaging in the process. It's pathetic in a literal sense and I really hope he gets some help
I wasn't expecting this to turn into one of Jake's cooking videos, because it sounds like Dave got fricaseed.
"Are you a curious person Dave?"
"...yeah?"
God bless Sarah, she has to be the first woman to speak to Dave in millennium. Sending much love towards her 💕.
Also..”Men Aren’t Driven By Emotions” said the guy who screams out of anger by the slightest agitation.
Edit: ALSO - Somebody should tell Dave that grieving isn’t a human-exclusive thing. It’s seen in thousands of different animals, _including certain species of fish._ To give examples: Swans and geese, like many other animals, mate for life, meaning they stay together forever once they have chosen each other. If one of them dies, the other will never mate again, and spend the rest of their lives mourning. There have been numerous reports and observations of animals going as far as committing suicide after losing a mate or a baby. Many mother elephants and gorillas have been reported to purposely starve themselves to death after they saw their own offspring die.
To add to your many points, elephants have been recorded on video crying when a herd member dies
Their whole bodies are dusty dry, except wet streaks that start at their lower eyelids... No way they aren't crying
Also, just a note: idk if anyone goes to Dave's streams on occasion (I myself can only handle him in 10-20 minute bursts), but here's a bit of cognitive dissonance from him I found hilarious: He regularly screams about how bad soda is for you (true), and claims it's even worse than beer (not true). He also says beer is actually healthy for you in moderation.
Dave drinks a 12 pack a day.
"Alcohol and women have very bad consequences". I don't think Dave actually has any experience with both of those things, I believe he has plenty of experience with alcohol, its the women part I doubt.
As someone who is poly, when I see my partner being happy with another person in a romantic way, it makes me happy. Just like seeing any loved one, being happy with a romantic partner makes me happy.
You still need a lot of communication skills so that if strong emotions do pop up, you work it out with them. But that's true with any romantic relationship. Having a couple therapist is good at the start of a relationship, so that you can learn how to communicate with your partner the best. Doesn't matter if it's Monogamous or polygamous.
It seems like there’s a level of selfless love that is required and I definitely could never manage. It’s really interesting though and I’m all for people being themselves so I definitely admire you all for your ability to love in that sort of way.
“All political violence is fascism”
Does Dave not know how America was founded? It wasn’t exactly peaceful
I’m sure a certain group of Red Coated individuals would agreed with Dave
Dave has already made it very clear in previous streams of his that he works overnight stocking shelves. I can't recall if it was for a place like Costco or if it was for Walmart, but I do recall that it was a large inventory kind of store with potential warehouse influences. His saying that he merchandises products is hilarious to me because it either means that he's trying to glorify overnight stocking of shelves as being something other than doing that, or he's moved into a more dedicated role as a merchandiser, which in a lot of outfits for those that do not know means you are an extension of a vendor Who is responsible for their own stock within a series of stores. The most common of these that I'm aware of within the grocery industry, which I'm pretty sure he's attached to,
are companies like Coca-Cola, Budweiser, Bimbo Bread (There are actually several bread companies that have a similar structure) and quite a few others. However, I have a very hard time believing that he's actually working as a vendor extension/merchandiser because that often requires strategic planning, inventory management that requires negotiation and promotion of things like sale prices, and would mean at least a portion of his income was based on networking and commissions. Considering the fact that the first time I heard him talking about this was several months ago and knowing that these commission-based roles can be pretty demanding as well as an income sink if you're not good at it, people who suck at those functions don't usually last very long.
All things considered, I still think that he works overnight in a warehouse based store like Sam's Club or Costco. He specifically works overnight because he does not have people skills and he drinks during the day, and this would also positively contribute to the type of cooking that he usually does since he uses a ton of condensed soups and other canned goods, as these are typically sold in bulk in these big warehouse stores.
I'm not sure why he would be hesitant to give more detail than what he gave here, it seems like he's relying on the ignorance of his audience in a way that is completely unwarranted... After all, people who are attracted to his content in a genuine fashion are probably also lower income earners and likely have extensive experience working at these multi-department stores or grocery since it's one of the most common jobs a person with just a high school diploma (or even not having completed a high school diploma) will ultimately end up working. People usually fall into a few specific categories, and people of our age had a couple of categories that you don't really see anymore... But these tracks are usually retail / grocery, fast food, care facilities, and for people of Dave and my age, a common high school starting point was telemarketing. If anything, I take his skirting around the details to be not so much a protection of his relationship with his employer so much as not wanting to admit that he is 45 years old and still relegated to the backstock room overnight at a Walmart. The truth of the matter is though, I think he would gain more respect from people if he didn't tacitly devalue those kinds of jobs.
No shame to the poverty of shitty jobs and broken careers... if only we could convince Dave to feel the same, and maybe start supporting basic workers' rights.
But yeah... it IS sad, especially when you add what a rude crude dude he wants to be.
Well said. I understand the lack of pride in telling people your shitty job, but acting this abrasive and having a general goal of making everyone around you feel as shitty as you ALWAYS feel/are is a terrible way to be
@@MrEboxez thanks! I suspect that his co-dependency with his audience is one pretty similar to in-to-the-cel bros. The whole concept of misery loves company can certainly spread from a central point outwards, but it also attracts people who are in similar misery circumstances. There are usually two veins of thought, and he represents the opposite to what I might put out there... Because on some level, we're both focused on giving a voice to thoughts most people just carry around in their head and experience and very isolated and private ways, a voice that is important because it generates community. I suppose Jake does this similarly, depending on when you hear him talk at least, but people gravitate towards figures that seem familiar or don't represent a humongous pile of challenge necessarily. We might watch people we have some fundamental disagreements with, but even if you held opposite politics, the gravity is simply heavily waited in other familiarity spaces I think. The big difference, however, is people like Dave speak the nihilism out into the world as a default, there's no belief that things can be better, there's a strategic denial of the existence of things like happiness and love. While I can understand how somebody might look at this guy and conclude he is a psychopath because of what he says, he's very clearly not emotionless or even low empathy. Nobody drinks that many beers a day who enjoys the way that they feel as a person, and nobody who desires such a significant suppression of emotional sharpness can also get away with claiming that they don't experience grief as he did here. He has what little community he has because his voice has called other bundles of hopelessness to commiserate and they feel justified because an older guy is telling them that life isn't worth a shit.
There are people on the polar opposite of that that can also identify there's no default reason for us being here but find value in reducing the amount of misery they must live through while they exist. I will never claim that people like Jake or other streaming personas or myself or just about anybody that represents for a positive spin is a person that has never known sadness... And I'm certain that the majority of those people have also experienced profound hopelessness, I really do it very strongly right now cuz it's exactly where I am personally at as I watch things fall apart and me racing towards losing my home and all of that stuff... But the biggest difference is that the positive spin side is simply willing to represent and put a voice to those fears and those experiences, no matter how vulnerable it makes them, because on some level they understand that in order for an infected wound to heal, it must be rewounded, it must be cut open so it can drain and be cleaned. That can be so painful and bloody and scary for some people that they come to think it must not be a reality that can happen and therefore they're justified in their own inaction, because to believe that that is a possibility and that they are smart people making good choices, who are fully capable of achieving if it's truly something that could happen, to believe that but do nothing to compel it forward is a pretty significant personal introspection cross to bear. I'd like to thank the majority of us will sooner or later find the bravery to face our own infections, but I also recognize that there's a non-zero percent of the population that will never get there.
One of the things I found very particular in this discussion was him saying that he didn't believe he would die because of the advancements going on in medical and science realms... It speaks to a feeling I think about from time to time, that this isn't a game and there's no reset button or save point, that every choice is one you're stuck with unlike when you make a mistake in a game and choose to revert to the last save. He still believes a reset button is going to be there. I don't know if he believes it by choice like he chooses actively to be ignorant, or if he just hasn't had the personal realization of it yet, though I suspect it's the first and not the last... But to think that immortality is a possibility means that he either believes his body will not die as a result of his alcoholism, or he has his sights set on the day neuralink is a thing and he can upload into a computer and be whatever he wants to be and in essence live forever. I think that the concept of uploading a consciousness into a computer for indefinite existence is an interesting one but it is sad to me that he might be looking at that as a viable option while he's drinking so significantly and clearly not taken care of himself... I understand why people might watch him because it's funny to an extent, but it's so tragically sad at the same time.
Today I learned that a single anecdote can be solid evidence if the people involved are famous.
Hold shit, the "I am the Guy" monologue is wild. Dave is out here talking like an anime villain.
Dave's right wing cuz he thinks alcohol is better than mushrooms
ngl I’m nostalgic of the days when Dave would proudly wear a stained Yoshi t-shirt to epic dunk on Anita Sarkeesian. What a king.
It always seems that right as Dave starts to realize he's in a vulnerable place and you're not gonna rise to his bait he just flees. I find myself rocketing between pity and disgust for him. He's a failed person, with anger and alcoholism filling in for a personality.
“Because it just is!” is just the worst argument.
He's so incapable of understanding love I'm honestly so sad for him
Don't
6:26 is when the debate starts.
53:44 is when Sarah joins in.
Thanks
The way Dave sounded genuinely embarrassed when you asked if he was curious and he was like, "... yeah, generally..."
THAT!
Jesus Christ, and here I thought I was riddled with self-hatred. This is just depressing. Dave, for the love of God, get some therapy.
"we're like fighters in a cage!" What I wouldn't give to see David trapped in an octagon lmao
holy crap Dave is so uncomfortable talking to a woman, kinda feel bad for him. You can tell he isn't used to playing the role he has built for himself.
Low key wishing they would talk to him about kink dynamics/relationships. It would have been horrible, but also it would have broke his brain. Possibly even more then Sarah not leaving Jake for a hypothetical rich guy did lmao
He said he'd protect you and sarah in the apocalypse with his guns :O
I know an example. The creator of Wonder Woman was married and they had a girlfriend. His wife even still dated her after his death.
My best friends are polyamourous and they have been married for years and have been together over a decade
i wander how much of what little Dave shares about his past is genuine. His behavior and attitude is so fascinating because it screams of someone who is maybe suppressing something? Maybe has undergone some sort of trauma? Maybe has some neurodivergence? I dunno if anybody ever hurt Dave or whether he is his own enemy.
Holy shit he is actualy so sad. No real friends, drinks 10 Beers a day and his take on greeve sounds like he just given up on other people.
This guy's brain is just broken, I had to stop at points and recover from just how unbelievably insane his perspective is.
i feel like dave is just a drunk angry dad who doesnt even know what he's saying he's just saying the words to make the peoples go away, how many times he doubles back and tells Jake THE OPPOSITE opinion of what he said earlier because Jake will throw it back at him for longer than 3 seconds and his goldfish memory resets
Clock Man got rid of his clocks? Man, what am I going to do now when I want to know the time?
1:14:14 i literally happily choose to pay a higher price from my friends personal business than i would pay for the same products from other, more accessible and convenient businesses because supporting my friends important endeavors in their lives brings more happiness & joy to my mental, emotional and soul than running a soul crushing business that brings nothing to my life other than unneeded monetary excess. making enough money to survive in a dignified manner is obviously important, but toiling away your life in a never-ending pursuit of more profit than you will ever need or use is an overwhelming sad and empty way to spend a life
The lack of empathy was genuinely pretty discomforting. I can not imagine subscribing so strongly to both apathy and self-centeredness
Immediately: "well hey, it'll be easier to share examples of successful relationships if you define what you mean by successful"
"Buh, buh, you gotta tell me"
Mans can't even tell you the rules of the game before trying to make you play.
It's completely unfair that Dave is getting double teamed by Sarah and Jake... obviously someone nicer would deserve that treatment much more.
dave has dialogue trees that don't make any sense and thats just how the world has to be because he memorized a quip about it.
If the dialogue trees were only good or courteous or true, it would be great. It's kinda like how Temple Grandin describes her experience with autism, being called "tape recorder" or "broken record" by her classmates. Only Dave's repertoire is exclusively composed of vitriol instead of animal psychology and neurodiversity anecdotes.
I drink occasionally, and I have a history of alcoholism in my family, and I kind of relate to Dave. for me, getting tipsy or drunk is a break from my anxiety and my anger issues. I can finally just be light and be happy. I know that's not healthy which is why I've barely drank this month (so it doesn't become an issue) but I kind of understand what Dave is saying. my only criticism of yours and Sarah's was the digging at his obvious alcohol problem. alcoholism is still very stigmatized and teasing people who have those issues isn't helping anything.
I struggle with alcoholism and the stigma and embarrassment behind it are what kept me too afraid to admit my problem to myself and, eventually, to others, for soooo long. All addiction issues are difficult and embarrassing, not just alcoholism, not even just drug addictions in general. But it seems to be so frequently that when someone opens up about a drug addiction or their drug addiction is found out (ie they get arrested), people are so very quick to mock that person, say they want nothing to do with that person, say that person doesn't deserve anything because they're a "lowlife", etc, etc, etc. My home town has one of those "Busted" Fb pages, and every time someone gets arrested, their mug shot is posted on Fb, along with a link to their charges. My home town only has like 70K people, so many people at least know of many other people, and the comments that get made are awful. Then all of the "laughing" reactions. I can't imagine how some of these people must feel when they are released and see all of the terrible things people have said, and how many people find the situation funny. It's terribly sad all-around.
This is the same type of dude who is *extremely* quiet in social situations
He came back for more!?
God, when he says "I understand and I'm sorry.", but his description of "why are you sorry" was "it's a nice thing to say."
That was so sad and sociopathic.
I've listened to this like 4 times now because I find it absolutely FASCINATING. Dave is... the most interesting chud I've ever seen. It's not just the "Polyamory doesn't work... I have a family member in a successful polyamorous relationship, but it doesn't work" thing. It's not just the "I only care about money" thing. It's the whole all of it. He has this bizarre worldview where he literally has to be right even when a fifth grader knows more about something than he does, but he also has to "tell the truth" and to him, the truth is whatever people disagree with.
Dave is so exhausting. I'm only 10 minutes in and I need a breather from his voice
It took me twenty more minutes to make it another ten minutes
OMG he's still mad that TJ Kirk made fun of him like 8 years ago 🤣
He uses the same logic as religious people, but his religion is being an asshole that almost no one likes 🤣
Dave could really turn his life around and it's sad he doesn't: give up the beer, shave his head, lose more weight, drop all the misogynistic bullshit, become a sympathetic listener, care about what's actually true, etc.
"Selfless is at least I break even" Sent me straight to hell.
I had fond memories of me playing gauntlet with my friend for 4 days straight. Trying to see if there was a end to it. I'm 42 and paint Warhammer miniatures an play table top games.
He's very lonely I hope he finds someone to talk to about whatever is bothering him and not drowning it out in alcohol.
How is Dave confusing Jake for an Elite?????????????? Dude, that has nothing to do with social media status. When Jake says he's not a 1% he's CLEARLY not referring to Twitch and RUclips as "Elite"
I’m willing to bet that if we observed Dave’s parents interact with him and each other we would understand the origin of all of his toxicity and self-hate directed outwardly.
I feel both pity and apathy for Dave. He is beyond saving at this point. Knowing he believes in the incel astrology stuff is hilarious, though. Jake, you continue to have way too much patience, but it's one of the reasons I keep watching you.
I genuinely think this debate is a work of art, talking about the meaning of love with a blackout drunk got very real very quickly. I would frame this if I could
"it doesn't have to be a debate you lose" omg
I stumbled into this live.. was like walking into a party or the bar at the perfect time..
Im back for 2nds
watching this stoned was an experience. my jaw was hanging open half the time.
I can’t. I can’t do it, Papa Bird. I want to give Dave a chance, given that we share a name, but Jesus Tapdancing Christ on a Bicycle, I just can’t do it.
4:30 Dave… you can buy a paternity test at a Walgreens. I’ve seen them. Come on bro.
14:15 iah
The whole Dahmer example being misunderstood for sooo long was my first real what the fuck.
"Men are ruled by logic, women are ruled by emotion", Dave said, emotionally.
Love is a series of decisions you make to prioritize a persons well-being and happiness above other things.
Christ, Dave is like a Christian's caricature of an atheist!
I shan’t commit brain damage by watching this, I saw enough live but Jake and Sarah are dope and as a fellow Dave he’s stinky and I don’t claim him
I'm sorry you have to share a name with this guy