SMS, Business Strike or Proof? Do You Know Which Your Coin Is?
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Do you have a rare SMS Special Mint Set? Is it the rare 1964 SMS? Do you know how to tell the difference between an SMS set and a regular business strike coin.
In this video you will learn to identify a 1964 SMS Kennedy Half dollar. You will also learn how to identify the difference between an SMS (SP) coin versus a business strike coin you spend.
1965 SMS sets came in a white envelope with a 40% silver Kennedy Half Dollar and the 1966 and 1967 came in a plastic snap case and box. No proof sets issued for 1965, 1966 or 1967.
I learn so much from you Dan. Your knowledge and experience is priceless.
I have a 1964 half dollar that my father had in a special case. He used to work in a government job back in the day. So far, everything you are saying in this video is matching up. I am thinking I'll have to take this somewhere to get looked at.
I don't know about just 1 coin...they go in a set...
I been collecting since I was 8 and I am still learning thing s every day, thanks again.
This is why I watch Mr. Malone. Always learning. Thank you sir.
This has helped me a great bit on the 1964. Thanks for Sharing my friend
You're welcome my friend!
Thank you. As an old guy who recently took up collecting, your videos are excellent!
Your only as old as you BELIEVE. And guess what? It's never to late to learn.SMILE
Thank you for the information on SMS coins!
Once again another awesome video for us newbie coin folks! Thanks for all the great information you put out! 👍👍😎
Thank you and you're welcome.
Thanks Daniel love those sets
Hey my DEAR Daniel. Thank YOU. Once again...knowledge is power. I have LEARNED so MUCH from my COIN ENTHUSIASTS. 💗
You're welcome.
Thank you for the explanations and comparisons. I really like the SMS packaging - very compact and attractive, too bad they stopped it.
Thank you for your intense, in depth review of the 1964 sms qualities to look for. You've brought the issue straight down to earth for me and made collecting this coin more realistic! Thanks again for such a valuable and credible lesson...Good looking out for all of us out there!!
It is not possible to find one in the wild. Sorry you got that impression but no one has found one despite hundreds of people making the claim they did.
Yes, I do know that this is an exclusive coin held by a previous Mint Director! I Just love your honesty about it all. My favorite Kennedy half dollar is the 1964 coin. I enjoy finding mint coins of that year! Thanks again!!
Thanks for the share Daniel, That's great Information for one to have..
Another great Video Daniel, I always feel like I am in school. awesome.
Thank you, great information!!
Just as you describe there is a clear difference between proof and uncirculated. Had sets just like the ones you showed. My Mom ordered them every year. Had the hard sets as well. Sold all of them years ago.
I have 1 usa dime no mint mark want to know d value
Great video. I like listening to what you have to say. Educational. Thank you D.
Thank you
Thanks for the education. Good luck in West Virginia this weekend. Enjoy the show.
Another great video lots of help again thanks.....
You are very correct when you said the SMS sets actually are in snap plastic cases...I own a complete set.
Thanks, just what I was looking for!
Thank you Daniel, even though this is an older video I just learned so much I had no idea. Thank you again.
Glad it was helpful!
Great video. Always curious about this
Great recap. Thank you
I have the complete 1964 SMS Deep Cameo Set. I had for about 10 years didn't no what I had until I watched your Video. Amazing Beautiful Coins. Jackpot
1964 SMS are not deep cameo, they're not proofs and was not issued to collectors. You can't just find them.
Thanks for the visuals
Speacial SMS-Set -Interesting here thanks.Double Dies! I want to thank you for time & good information!🎈👍👍👍
You're welcome and thank you for watching and supporting me!
Keep up the good work,you make it easier to understand
Thank you
Very good Daniel as usual
Wow, how timely - on Friday I saw a 64 set on ebay that had a suspicious looking quarter. I had to get it just to see. If I hit the 1-in-a-million jackpot I'll definitely let everyone know! if not, I still got a nice 64 set in a cool holder.
Good to hear.
Hey there. How did you make out on this?
Thank you for information 👍👍👍👍👍
Thank you Daniel awesome video I can't look at my 1967 mint said I got!
Thanks Dan, your AWESOME!
I have learned a lot from you
You have done a great vid here showing the differences. In hand is a lot easier IMO.
Do you know how much my 1964 uncirculated set is worth ??? Plz help
Got 2 1966 sms sets and a 1965 Kennedy thats sms.Cool info im going to check mine right away for the ddo.👍
Let us ENTHUSIASTS know how you made out with your SMS sets.THANK YOU
Great Video. Very informative. Thanks :)
You're welcome
Thanks for the video.
You're welcome
Great video
Thanks for the great video
You're welcome
I have seen many people take them out of the package and make their own so called sms sets. I have never done that and I never will. Awesome content and very informative video. Thanks Daniel for sharing this for us. All the Best ~ Shirl
Thank you
@@CoinHELPu Your so very welcome. :-)
I was curious to see if I ever found any SMS coins in rolls of 65 through 67 and I think that I have not based on your criteria. I have found 2 64 Proof Kennedys. It was somewhat hard to tell on these until you showed me the difference. Thanks for sharing really helpful.
Had quite a few mint sets long ago. Know what mint coins look like. I have gone thru so many boxes of pennies a few mint strikes get put in bank boxes. They look not only uncirculated but also struck very well. Red plus very clean features.
Great job taking care of them.
I think it's funny people argue with you over a rare find. I stack for the spot price, if I find a rare coin, great. I don't expect to find any rare minted coins. I am happy when there is no silver loss.
What do you use to view the coins in such detail as I'm looking to buy something for myself
Is there a video on the Lincoln cents in comparing as this video? I have a 42D and it's not normal business strike,
I first collected the Franklin half dollars and have moved on to the Kennedy half dollars. I wasn't sure what a SMS coin should look like. Thanks for explaining. I have all of the Clads from 1964 to 2019. I am starting to collect the proofs and I just bought a set off of ebay that is suppose to have a 64 proof, a 65, 66, 67 SMS and a 68 and 69 proof. So I am excited to see if I got what I paid for or did I get ripped off.
I have 5, 1964 proof sets (yellow flat packs). Would it add value if I send them to NGC?
It is appalling the messages people send you.They do not listen, but hear only what they want to hear.must be frustrating at times Daniel. Thanks for the video.Your friend Harry.
I have a 1944 Jefferson nickel that appears to be close to mint condition with what looks to be a small RPM D on right side of Monticello. It doesn’t have Henning’s signature R in “pluribus”. Can you tell me if it’s rare ?
I have a 1964 Kennedy half dollar that has a shiny finish,,my father inlaw had it in a safety deposit box since the 1980s,he gave me his coin collection. its very smooth and reflective with light has an even finish shine? Im pretty new at this so any help is greatly appreciated,,i dont wanna be taken advantage of if i decide to sell
The business strike coins look (on my tiny screen) like they have the satin finish. While the actual SMS coins appear to have a more mirrored silver look! 🤔
Danny.? Do you think they might have a SMS SPLIT SET OUT THERE IF YOU HAVE THOSE STRUCK MINT MARKS ON IT. ? JUST WANDERING?
No none of these are out there.
I have this one 1964 Kennedy.
Morning Daniel. Thank you for the referal it helped a bunch. Have been deeply researching the sms. But still leaves me confused because past auctions on the 64 shows broken rays & straight g but 65 & up shows solid rays & flaired g. I have examples of both on the 64's i have. Michelle confirmed a straight g on one of them. Seriously debating on going to the chicago show coming the 24th this month. Have you talked to her lately? Have a gr8 day my friend & TYSVM for everything
Yes I have talked to her and you're welcome. Have a good one too.
Striatum marks?
Another top notch video my man,youve hit your stride and the vids show it.quick question,collecting is a whole new animal with all the clad crap modern coinage so strategies are constantly evolving.do you think we collectors are faced with a reset button if you will,where for investment sake sitting on bu rolls of the lowest mintages,which todays low mintages are in the crazy millions range,and just wait for the coin carnage with use and wear to bring back the numbers and implant the new stage setting prices?almost like stacking rolls and waiting for the lotto numbers to show the winners and loosers and then hope ya picked these up 30 years prior. Seems individual coins are just a waste of capitol.cant see someone saying "picked a key date 2015d jefferson" in the same manner as "picked me a 16 merc" or "22 no date lincoln".strange but intriguing times ahead !anyway great vid, keep em rolling,your info level has caught the attention of "the tube" and good times are coming your way.peace!!!
I have a 1967 sms set, and the quarter has a CAM on the reverse. Would it be worth getting it graded?
I can't answer that question.
@CoinHELPu sorry about that. I misunderstood the information given to me. I dug a little more, and whala! Thank you very much for your time to help us out here. Take care, and God bless you amigo.
I have a 1964 packaged proof mint set silver coins, odd thing is the nickel is of a gold toned thru and thru...and thepenny isn't that pretty, yet it's a rarity..as well as it is fully missing it's fg initials on the back?! So what's it's value looking like?
Until it’s graded and attributed as you say then there’s no value for an appraisal.
I can’t believe it
mine are in the pressed sleeves like on those 1965 but mine are 1964s satin finish most beautiful nickel quarters I’ve seen I will send you a picture if you want to see I’m wondering who should I send them to be graded.
I have The Americana AHS Presidents collection put together in 1998 All 64 coins but the Nickle is a 51 for some reason . The Half and Quarter in the Set Look Exactly like the coins shown Here in this Video to the T . I have a few shoes in my area where the guys are specializing in Numismatics . I guess I'll have it looked at .
I have 2 of these sms Kennedy's.
If you have all silver eagle graded MS70 are they hard to sell Daniel?
Depends on what you want to sell them for and what years.
Were the sms sets typically in a plastic case with penny, nickle, dime, quarter and half dollar?
I watched your video and think I may have a set.
Only found in Eva Adams estate, she was a former mint director, so you couldn't have one.
@@CoinHELPu see attached photo.
My 1954 are like that
So how much is my 1964 set worth there not circulated
I have a Cameo Kennedy half and a frosted one and also a rose gold tone silver one. Are these worth more and 1 1964 that's looks really nice, not very circulated. Thank you .
Unless they're graded a high grade they don't have much premium.
Rut row.Hi....rose gold one probably copper coated or dipped.When you BELIEVE you MAY have found a coin that is worth something PLEASE take it to a local coin dealer and ask them to show YOU something similar to YOUR coin. A LOT of times the tiniest mark on a coin MAY make the coin worth less than the actual grading cost. GOOD LUCK TO YOU MY friend.
I have a 19 74/4 that is out of round. Is that a mint error?
1974 quarter out of round.
I have a doozy of a coin. Can anyone verify if the 90% silver quarter from 1964 sms is supposed to be partially reflective of images? I have watched dozens of videos and read all the internet articles I could find about the the sms 64s vs the business strikes or the special strikes and I haven't found anything that talked about reflectivity. Also are there any special strike 64s known to have originated in the Denver mint? All the research I've done says that special strikes have no mint mark but like I said this coin I have is a real doozy to pin down because nobody talks about reflectivity in any of the articles or videos. So do I have a reflective d mint coin that is a 64 silver or did I just uncover Moby Dick?
Thanks Daniel, you no
"for bringing the (64-SMS
Halfdollar) into perspective" i completely understand what a (Kennedy Half-64-SMS) must look like' Plus now and after I've watched your Video
(The 1964-SMS-101)
witch was very well putrid by the way) i can honestly say because
"with the imfo you gave, and with my 1964/ Nickel in hand, that (i found in the wild) it is in fact-a 1964-SMS Coin. I was fairly certain that it was the frist moment i layed eye's on it, because it doesn't look like any other 1964 nickels that I've ever seen, and brother I've looked at millions. I see why the SMS-64's are so sout after, they are "absolutely beautiful" with a half Gold, half Silver look that stands out inside a high rem, they have no ment mark, a Satt Finish, pinkish trailing in all letters/words, also but underneath front and back in all words date included, there's blackish/brown righting/numbers ? But it doesn't take away from the true beauty in anyway.
I'm very fortunate to have found this Coin and i no that. I don't take Coin Collecting for Granted (Never Have/Never Will)
Thank you for your truest knowledge my friend, and may the search be with you.
BOYFRIEND...why ARE their heads smaller Mr. Malone? Little CONFUSED about the SMS sets.SMILE BOYFRIEND ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤I missed your videos....l-ve stalker
HEY YOU....NEVER STOP SMILING!
I don't see that, they're the same size.
@@CoinHELPu not quite sure BOYFRIEND?❤ummm it is a deep cam
I have two nickel quarter sets SMS sets
I just bought a 1964 U.C. in an envelope
Great info, finally someone did a video on this. I bought 3 unopened boxes of the 65,66,67 SMS sets. But they all look like they have the SMS strike not the business strike. This video is going to be very helpful. So the business strikes come in the SMS sets as well? Or just put in circulation?
I understand you saying the 1964 doesn’t have special packaging is that correct
The thing is I have 2 sets of 1964 mint set in packaging one from Denver one for Philadelphia
I’am a bit confused I will post the pictures on the community coin help
Those are normal mint sets, they come like that. SMS sets are not mint sets.
Late die state SMS halfs are hard to distinguish from gem business strikes.
I mentioned die stages in the video.
Tengo una de plata 1965
I believe I may have a 1964 SMS Quarter. Is there a way that I can contact you to send you some images? I would love to have you take a look at it and tell me what you think. It would be greatly appreciated.
You're not going to find one like this, sorry. I am not the person to contact, an expert needs to see it in person. Only way you could have one is if you had personal ties with a former mint director Eva Adams. These where not released to the public.
Hola Daniel! Tengo el set especial de 1964 de Philadelphia sin la línea Azul o Roja que distingue a la Casa de Moneda. En el Half dólar Kennedy tiene la serifa de la I de liberty del lado izquierdo y un reverso como la moneda del pelo acentuado. Me gustaría compartir una imágenes contigo para tu observación. Saludos. 🇦🇷
I believe that you mentioned that the 1964 SMS coins didn't come in the packaging for the public. I have two sets each from the Treasury from 1963 and 1964. Could this be a fluke?
Those are not SMS, so no it's not some fluke.
Thank you.
How and who can I text or call about my 1964 special
Strike coin with very sharp detail... very confident it's a rare halve...
I don't help with those. I am not your guy.
I have so many error coins and double die coins but can't sale any on eBay 🙃 please tell me how I can sale my coins, thanks.
Did they make any sms sets with IKE dollars?
Yes. 1976 in the red envelope. They're not the same finish but get the SP on the label grade.
@@CoinHELPu are you KIDDING?
@@CoinHELPu and it's CONSIDERED a SMS SET?
I have a sweet looking 64 penny that might be from a mint set. If I could or dare to send it to pcgs for grading, it may be worth something. Thanks for the info.
It is normal for a 1964 cent to come from a mint set.
@@CoinHELPu Do you think it has value?
@@troylong9143 6.5 billion pennies struck in 64, 2.7 B of those Philadelphia minted. Not even close to rare. Only the cream of the crop of uncirculated 64s will be worth something and we're talking coins impossible to find in rolls, i.e MS67 and up.
I just found some 1964 sertten finish very shiny looks new penny also dime & quarter , my question is how do know that it’s SMS , please ripply , thanks
It's not an SMS they were not released to collectors or in any sets at all.
Hey CoinHELPu...if Iheard you correctly,you said that the 1964 sms came more than likely in a hard plastic holder?
Well just so happens that I just went to an Estate Sale,where I bid on a small box of coins and got them,well in this box of coins I found some walkers,Benji's,and Kennedy coins as well
at the bottom of the box under some paper like miterial,there was a hard plastic case with a 64 half,quater,dime,nickel,and penny.I have been studing coins for some time now,and I do belive I have one of the orginal 64 sms.It's not in a case like the 65,66,67 sms this one is in the same type of hard case,but the only thing the case say's on it is "WHITMAN" at the bottom and they are business struck coins,not the shinny proof type but a satian type finish.Could I possibily have a orginal 64 sms?
It has all of the features that you had mentioned.Would love to hear your feed back.
Thanks...New Coin
People cut out mint sets and placed them in hard plastic holders made by Whitman so this isn't a SMS set. I have several 1964 mint sets in these plastic holders.
That is the packaging.Sometimes people take out original coins though and put others in. By the way...good eye my friend.
@@CoinHELPu settle this score for me BOYFRIEND please.Now I gotta dig them DARN SMS SETS OUT AGAIN
AND THE COINS ARE PRISTINE
I am trying to determine if my 1964 " D " half dollar that has a very shinny surface and a couple marks on it, if it is worth anything of great value....the coin looks as if you just went to the bank in 1964 and picked it up...could you, or anyone else help me out here ( I'm not a coin collector ).
It's worth around $13 to $15
@@CoinHELPu Thanks...
I'm sorry to bother you, but I trust your opinion's....What about a 1963 Benjamin Franklin half dollar that was stuck 4 times?
@@tyus1932 please go to error-ref.com and look up double struck and multiple struck coins.
I have one
I have seen that regular quarters from 1965 are worth $1 is this true for all quarters?
Where have you seen that?
Can these kinds of coins be found in circulation?
No, you can't find them at all.
No, you can't find them at all.
I got one of those I would like u to look at
I don't look at supposed 1964 SMS coins, you can't find them and they where not released to the public or circulation.
There is 1 known example without the "tear drop".
The year drop doesn’t matter, it’s an SMS finish, it’s the finish that people are overlooking and focusing on the die marks. Without the finish the coin is a normal proof or business strike, anything else is wishful thinking.
i have that coin can i send a picture if my coin have a high value
I have one coin i want to sell it?where can i sell my coin im from philipppines
What about your 1971Eisenhower SMS.
No such thing.
I finally found the 1964 sms set a month ago. After watching this video it took me only one week to find it . It just got delivered and now I wanna have them graded. now I’m confused how am I supposed to tell them how much they are worth and have to pay more on insurance and variety. Is sms considered a variety and why are those fees there aren’t they supposed to tell me what the coins are isn’t that the main reason for them to tell me everything about the coin
You didn't get an SMS set, you can't buy them nor find them, they don't exist outside of collections of people who bought them at auction.
@@CoinHELPu it was an Estate auction I have compared to other sms I came to conclusion why people couldn’t noticed them. In white lights they have a mirror finish to them the Kennedy would look nickel plated when you take a picture of it. The cent would look orange the quarter and dime bluish tint. But on normal natural light quarter nickel and dime will look smoke frost and the Kennedy would look Matte. I used a magnifying app with different filters to make sure the coin was ms70 state. I’m just not sure if the strikes is all there. Pictures I took with a iPhone 12 Pro Max. Makes the coin extremely life like so to the point the Lincoln looks like a fake rendition being too clean.
@@JONJon-COD it’s a proof set and they’re not MS70 just because they in the package.
The collection had everything ungraded and recognized some of the coins at a recent heritage auction recognized the green coin roll wraps, Morgan CC holders and the cent errors 1995 1966 1982
@@JONJon-COD estate sale or not, you bought a proof set. If the estate was from a former mint director I would take notice but these sales happen every week. I would not buy into anything they claim. Let coin experts guide you, they prey on people who don't know more than they do.
I have 1pcs of this coins any 1964 . You have interested i well sale it how much.
Why is it these originally were with a mint employee? Seems kinda like ehhhh insider trading so to speak
We see this a lot.
@@CoinHELPu thanks for the reply, i enjoy the videos man!
Yeah...i feel like you do.
I have 1965 dollar liberty United States of America!
The 64 sms Kennedy is Not identical with the /65 -67. 64sms are like a Kennedy from the Denver Mint but more reflective and cleaner..
The he SMS are not reflective at all.
Could speak a bit faster... just more to your normal speed.
Great explanation 🙂
Oh my God I just sold one of those Kennedys for freaking $80 with the couple of more cuz I thought it was a regular coin. I remember seeing those exact marks on the neck of Kennedy. What a freaking idiot I am. So I guess that means I have the dime the nickel and the quarter at least right? they all came from the same package. I feel sick to my gut.
You didn't have an SMS 1964, so don't worry. They've only been found in Eva Adams estate and she was a former mint director, look it up. Marks on the coin don't matter without the finish. You had a proof not an SMS, big difference.
I hope so . All of the coins that I have are my neighbors who passed away and he left everything to me. And he has had some very rare coins. A lot of people have offered me a lot of money for these coins already. I don't think I need to be selling anymore just in case.
@@robcoronado7479 it's not what people offer you it's what the coins are actually worth that matters. Here's how to appraise them ruclips.net/video/dCAAMp_wsF0/видео.html