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Daniel I bought a coin from them when I first started it was my first Morgan and I was so upset by the quality I returned it that was 4 years ago and I promise I still don't have my money back oh well lesson was learned now I have a couple of lcs that I transact with or I'll buy from you or rft
How out your explain how you have almost 200,000 subscribers and 14 likes on your last community section post. The coin could be made of tin............and it would be less FAKE than your channel. You are NOT a Good Man. You are a P.O.S
I bought one of my first morgans from them 2.5 years ago and i was so disappointed when i opened the package. Thanks for doing these videos Daniel @phillipharmon2887 @CoinHELPu
Man, this seller gave Lady Liberty a great face-lift. She looks 100 years younger in his pictures! He should stop selling coins and get into the glamour shot business.
Can you imagine how much money Morgan Dealer has made over the years via misleading photography? I'm glad to have gotten educated before falling prey to this seller, amongst others. Thank you, David.
I bought one coin from MorganDealer in 2023. The coin was falsely advertised through deliberate smudging and blurring of defects. I kept it as a lesson to myself to never buy Morgans on eBay again. I use Photoshop professionally and, like you, i can replicate MorganDealer's phony-photo manipulation techniques. Thank you, Daniel, for getting the word out.
Bunk editing seems to fool so many people. I don’t get it. With respect, we all have to be more diligent, even when we are new to purchasing coins or even jewelry. I have gotten beat over carbon spots on coins because I just didn’t look hard enough or ask enough questions. I’m talking about to the point of corrosion spots that were hidden.
@@fifteenbyfive No, it is not eBay's doing that Morgan Dealer alters the images of his coins with photoshop. My only bad decision was thinking that he had an inferior camera set-up. Now i know he is deliberately messing with the images.
@@ulexite-tv The difference between how the photo looks and how the coin actually looks is the only thing that should matter. I'd never buy another coin again if that happened to me, thinking its bad photography. I'd hit him with a bad review for that too because that's a part of the business.
When you scroll through the Morgans on eBay, his images stand out like a sore thumb. Seems like people would just avoid his coins because the manipulation is so obvious, but every coin sells. Sad.
I really appreciate this! I still haven't bought from eBay, yet. But when I do I'm not purchasing anything from this guy. You are really helping the hobby and saving people a lot of heartache and trouble! I appreciate everything you do bud!
I run an ebay store just on the premise of the way that he sells coins if you want somebody who's uploading the front and the back of the coin the way that it looks on my camera and being as honest and cost effective for YOU & ME😊❤ Stay safe my friend
Ebay is fine but watch what you're doing. Make sure they have ultra clear photos and many positive reviews saying that the coin was exactly as described. Many of them have brick and mortar stores behind eBay. Do some googling. It'll save you money over eBay too by dealing directly with them.
Oh and no less than a 30-day, no questions asked, return policy. That's an absolute must. I don't care how good the deal is. Any honest dealer would invite a 30-day inspection of the coin. It's only fair that a buyer gets to hold the coin in his hand before he makes the absolute final decision on keeping it.
Daniel, can I ask how you take your pictures for when you yourself list.....is it a Microscope with your phone attached? Or do you have an actual camera setup? The only argument I'd say for Morgan Dealar is this.....although the pics are altered, the customers must be happy overall if they are NOT returning the coins and actually leaving good comments with a 99.7% Positive reviews. I've read the reviews of the negative/nuetral ones of Morgan Dealer and those all say he immedietly refunded their money when they complained. I'm not saying what MorganDealer is doing is right....but clearly there isn't enough people upset for a 40 dollar coin to leave them unhappy enough to return it and then leave a bad comment......the customers seem pretty happy. Just my 2 cents, Thanks for the videos. I watch all of them!
In retail only about 20% complain or return items they're not happy with, so that's the answer on that, most just don't say anything and the rest are ignorant until they find out the truth.
That first image of the Morgan obverse reminded me of Barbara Stanwyck in the "Big Valley" TV series. She was a great beauty in early movies, and was still quite attractive in her 50s on the TV series, but she was showing her age a bit. So when the camera was on her, they would use bright and diffuse lighting, and maybe they put Vaseline on the camera lens. Then when the camera switched to one of the men, the lighting would be harsh and you could see the guy's pores and 5 o'clock shadow. I guess the same principle was used when photographing this coin. But still: let the buyer beware. If a coin looks MS67+ in an image, ain't NOBODY going to sell that coin raw.
My first thought was why would your customer want to buy $40 raw common date Au Morgan’s that say cleaned in the title ? I think it was a great idea for you to do this for a video for everyone and I appreciate that Another point id like to make is that many of these high volume sellers hide behind a 100 percent free return policy and just bank on the fact that 3/4 of people won’t utilize that so it’s a numbers game. Even when they do get negative feedback they’re able to have eBay take it down for them so their 98%-99.9% seller ratings are very misleading
When I first started buying coins from Ebay, I bought a few coins from this seller. I found the same thing to be true about his coins. Several years back he was selling coins that had no mentioned of being cleaned but obviously were. Later he added to the description that some coins may have been cleaned. I stopped buying from the seller and kept the few I bought just for their silver content.
I would of returned it if I was you. You can't let these bad Ebay coin sellers get away with it because there just going to keep doing it to other people that purchase off of them. And you know what they do it to the wrong person that person is going to come down hard on that bad seller.
I had just won an auction from Morgan Dealer when I saw this video and sure enough when the coin came today, it does not look like what it looked like in the listing photos! I spent nearly $400 on an 1884 CC. He listed it as PL and MS+++. Completely misleading! Thank you for the information! I will report to eBay and complain to FTC.
You been had. I bought recently on 8/27/24 from Morgan Dealer off ebay too. I purchased a Morgan 1884-CC $480 and 1883-CC $511 both BU+++ and 10 other supposedly high grade uncirculated Morgan silver dollars. Each of them were all auction bids and I won them all. I racked up a bill of $1644 which is left on my ebay cart awaiting payment. It says in the listing that payment is due after 7 days of winning so I didn't pay and kept shopping for more coins to bid from this seller. Then I had to triple think what I was doing I was wandering Why are all the pictures of all the coins on this sellers ebay store look so good and brand new compared to other ebay sellers pictures selling Morgan silver dollars. I thought about google searching about this seller and search on RUclips. I was lucky I came to this RUclips video and I put a halt of paying Morgan Dealer and opened a dispute with Ebay customer service. Ebay says don't worry about it, they found it on my favor that I don't have to pay this seller and Morgan Dealer will be investigated.
Thanks for doing this video, I bought a few from morgan dealer and all of them had altered photos… I only paid a bit over 50 bucks for the coins so lesson learned, I still have silver but not the coins pictured
I've sold coins on the flebay for over a decade. I've never manipulate my images for anything I've sold. It's just not worth the trouble of returns. Good pictures also protect the seller to prove any issues a buyer may raise, are existing. What this seller is doing is despicable, and possibly criminal. Everyone with an eBay account should report this seller. This seller has over 1300 listings and every single listing I've seen is manipulated in the same way. I've reported a dozen listings. Only 1290 to go... Everyone watching this video should report all listings with manipulated images. A return policy does not negate the need for accurate listings. It certainly does not remove liability from fraudulently presenting an item through manipulation of the images.
@@acousticshadow4032 Yeah that's true, but once that trust is broken it's hard to get it back. Nothing really beats holding the coin in hand to make a decision.
@@acousticshadow4032 I agree. I've gotten some fantastic deals on eBay. More often than not because the seller took a crappy picture of the coin. My most recent purchase netted me a Morgan silver dollar worth three times+ my purchase price - a 1900-O in BU condition (MS-64?) with a large die crack. And though the photo was bad, I could see enough details that I took a leap of faith and purchased the coin. It helped that the seller had 100% positive feedback and 30-day money back guarantee.
Thank you Sir. I ironically was looking at the photos from that same person tonight. It seemed as a altered image in the photo. I'm watching the sales on the 1880. But, I had a major problem when I saw it. Too much luster and shine. Wild how this video came up when I was looking at them prior to seeing this. Algorithm FTW!
At 3:19 I would say it's not even the same coin. In the photo it has staining over U in UNUM but not in your sample. Different scratch mark patterns, too.
Hi Daniel, I subscribed to your channel and watched all your videos. I bought quite a few Morgan Silver Dollar Coins from Morgan Dealer on ebay, I was not paying attention then to the detailed authencity of those items I bought, except just look at it and make sure it is the same coin upon receiving it. I did not scrutinized the full detail then, and just now I realized that you made your point. Photos on ebay when items are on sale were manipulated, I received the same coin as described and some of them were not near to the quality as to the photo shown on ebay when it was on sale. Any legal actions you might or anyone you will be known to file a lawsuit against this Dealer as to the misleading photos, count me in and I would like to join the band. Thanks, and have a great day and a great year ahead!
When I order from Ebay I sometimes find that I get ripped off with shipping fees. You buy a coin at what seems to be a reasonable price, then you forgot to look at the shipping costs....woops.
My favorite ever. “They offer $$ back guarantee. That’s not what I’m here for, I’m not interested in that”. Awesome Sir. Thank you as always for what you do
We as a group should buy everything that morgandesler has up and then use the not as described return button and send the crap back. The image is part of the description. What the seller says is irrelevant if the picture doesn’t represent the actual coin.
Good video . I wish everyone one took detailed pictures of there coins . I buy a lot coins and it's a crap shoot . Thx Daniel appreciate you . Anyway you could do video on the new pennies 2004 2006 2015 . There alot on them but none really show what to look for .
I have taken pictures of a coin & when I looked at it, it looked like it had an error on it just from the light disturbed you gotta be careful taking pictures of Coins.
Not only is this fraud. Go look at all the repetitive BOT comments. No way he has a 99.6% positive feedback otherwise. So the real question is, why is this allowed to happen?
Thank you for posting this. I really hope this seller loses sales from this video. They are definitely not going to stop doing this since they have been doing it for years. This is the reason why I don't buy coins off Ebay. I will only buy from reputable brick and mortar dealers.
Thank you for this Daniel. I have recently started (carefully) with numismatics, evolving from just stacking and awareness videos like yours are invaluable. 👍 . EBay remains a minefield for all of us.
well yes your probably right on all counts. yet i know that many ebay sellers will respond right away if you give them a neutral feedback. maybe the smaller seller is more concerned about reputation than these larger ones. anyway the video was helpful. thanks@@acousticshadow4032
This reminds me of my my first wife. She was beautiful, I married her, got her on the honeymoon and when she woke up the first day without makeup I had to ask, "Who are you? What happened to the girl I married?" Photo editing is a lot like makeup.
The answer to "why mess with the images" is obvious. Money. Anyone that has handled silver dollars would know immediately the images are doctored. I won't buy coins with images that are tilted/angled either. It's more important that the text in the advertisement is mostly correct. This boils down to: does ebay allow photo manipulation and misrepresentation of appearance. This seller obviously believes in the PT Barnum adage.
Morgan Dealer think they can get away with it and think there are people are stupid that they won't understand the difference and just accept it as it is.
Just looked. He's doing the same this still. I made a mistake and bought a couple from MorganDealer. Never again. There's another M______ named dealer that was doing the same thing. Got a coin album from him and the whole front cover had pulled away from the pages. Of course that picture wasn't included in the listing. I'm sure it was not included on purpose. Returned it.. Thanks for the video. Wish I had seen this a while ago
People can sell coins honestly, borderline or be blatantly dishonest. Using the "same person" excuse on a dating app where your muscles and chin line are photo shopped would certainly be noticed in person and these coin sellers are no different. Dishonest because the manipulation of images if clearly purposeful. What absolutely blows my mind is the seller calling the second coin "AU". They move Morgans in tonnage and they seriously believe this is AU?? No way in heck. Thank you for posting this and keep calling these guys out, Daniel!
As someone who does photoshop and illustrator a lot I could already tell in half a second that the photo in the ebay listing was badly altered. I get suspicious of ebay coins in general. Not something I would take a risk on. I'd rather see it in person before I consider buying it.
I bought a 1921 from Morgandealer, and then started seeing a bunch of videos of fake Morgan's. I knew my when I bought it the picture had to be manipulated cuz let's be honest, looks like it was just minted in most all his pics. Made me wonder if the coin I received is real. Can you confirm the coins you received are in fact real?
Wow! That's a big difference in quality. I'm not just a coin collector since I was 9-10 (and I'm 76)... it I've been a photographer since then also. I can say I honestly believe the seller had somebody sllightly Blur the surface to make it appear clean and smooth in Photoshop. Total manipulation. Also...China has been reproducing American coins that ARE sold as replicas really cheap. A couple bucks. Look very real! I would not be surprised if the con artists are having Chinese coin replica manufacturers making them illegally for underground dealers who con amateur collectors. Just for the heck of it I bought a couple. And they look and weigh the same as the real coins. Unreal. I bought a few out of curiosity legally and I was impressed.
Yeah, I've seen those fakes too, they call them "album fillers" but they're just flat out counterfeits. They don't have any markings on them to indicate they're fake, so I reckon those sellers are breaking the law against counterfeiting. I wonder how many buy them & then resell them as real coins on Ebay? What a scam.
There is a silky translucent in the fields, which you never see on a genuine Morgan. I would just assume when you see this Milke white glow throughout the fields of the coin that it’s being manipulated.
I buy a lot of Morgans from eBay. I learned right from the beginning to ignore any Morgan Dealer listings. Every coin looks unnatural, like they've been tooled to begin with. Based on your video, the actual coins you purchased look better than the fake polished photos. I'm amazed at the number of people who get defrauded by that seller. The seller readily allows returns to avoid negative comments. It's a numbers game. Most people won't bother to return, or complain if they get their money back.
But he already racked up over hundred negative feedbacks within the 6 month and 12 month period in his past history of selling on ebay. There's a chart of all feedbacks showing positive, neutral and negative feedbacks that people left.
a lady sued because the face on the pkg wasnt on the actual candy search for "Hershey is sued for selling Reese’s Peanut Butter cups without ‘cute pumpkin faces"
There are a lot of scoundrels and scammers out there. Heard when now posting on Facebook Marketplace scammers immediately swoop in. These "markets" and "auctions" are such huge money machines that they don't seem to care. 💩 Cheers 🤠
The seller is probably using what is named Neural filter in the new Photoshop. It is typically used to smooth skin tones. It is basically a one-click operation.
Wow Daniel...some real shady stuff going on there. I'm so thankful and grateful for your time and effort on this video. Great educational stuff here. It's just so unnecessary. It happens. And clearly it happens more than we know. Thanks again.
Only buy from ebay stores that have 100% positive feedback. PERIOD. 99.6% positive, for this seller, is 106 neutral and 126 negative feedback in the past 12 months. Don't be stupid, people.
Online you win some you lose some. I rolled the dice and bought a 1938 proof. And a 1940 proof nickel for $40 each last week and they were absolute gems
Depends on what coin dealer your purchasing from. Not all of them are bad. You just gotta do your homework and know who to go to before making a coin purchase.
The seller's description may be a little misleading but have you tried to buy any Morgans or American silver eagles from CHINA...? HOLY CRAP IF YOU DIDN'T HAVE A SCALE OR A MAGNET YOU'D NEVER BE ABLE TO TELL THEY'RE COUNTERFEIT!!! How can they sell them here? E Bay doesn't mind
No way ? Seriously ? Wow. Nope. I'd be asking for a refund, real quick.. That is bad business all the way around. I bought a Morgan last year that was 'naturally' toned.. When it arrived, I could tell this was not the same coin I bought. My receipt stated 'artificial' toned Morgan. I asked for my money back with a prepaid FEDEX label, to no avail. I sent it back on my own with a signature required tracking and disputed it with eBay. I finally got a refund after 3 months. Sad world we live in these days...
FTC Federal Trade Commission. Call your US Representative's office and ask them to assist you in contacting the FTC. Don't expect them to do all the work. They have much more to do than babysit people who jumped into collecting coins without the proper caution.
This seller has many items online. I've never purchased from them because I knew 1st time I saw his listings that they was photo manipulation. It's so horrible that they do this! Potentially new collectors will be disappointed by these type of sellers and gives the hobby a very bad look. Auction kings/Toliver James are even WORSE of photo manipulation. Thanks for exposing them.
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Thank you for the continued information. I saw these guys on eBay and took the pictures as manipulated as well. Buy with caution from them for sure
I bought from Morgan dealer several years ago. The coin came and was not as pictured. I returned it. But, ... next time I tried to buy from him I was blocked from bidding. That's how he works. Find new suckers to sell to. Scammer.
This dealer is still on Ebay as of 7-23-24, and you can clearly see all their listings have altered photos and not much of a good track record either.Stay away from this seller!!!
I learn from you every time I see yer video . These coins were a Rip- Off fer sure . They just didn't look right at all ( too good ) . Best too go to a dealer and see fer yer self just what yer buying . It's a bloody shame people do this . If and when I order coins I get them from JM Bullion , or 1/ 2 others I've bought from before . Thanks again for the great info . Tom Daytona Beach , FL. 1, March 2024 .
You and I have discussed this before, but neither you nor I would ever buy a coin from a seller who posted images like that. He made that thing look like one of the modern Morgans. People need to learn that well before the Internet and digital photography, Miss November didn't even really look IRL like Miss November in the porn mags... Used car dealers used to put sawdust in worn out transmissions to muffle the noise for awhile, and they still use bondo to fill rust holes and then paint them over, which bubbles up and falls off six months later. Buyers need to be educated to recognize this obvious fraud. You're doing a good thing to help with that.
Yes, you did get ripped off. Thank you for revealing this suspicious activity. Now, that I know what to look for, i can scroll down the list of morgan dollars on ebay and easily pick out the ones listed by this dealer. I just did this, and at this moment in time, there are 8 listings from this dealer. As I said, they are easy to pick out from the other listings. That is because in all 8 listings, the coins each have the same smooth, flawless surface tone as your example. Anyone who is familiar with morgans and stops to think about it, would realize they dont normally look this way! Have you reported them to ebay as suspected fraudulent activity because they are manipulating the images?
I've bought from the same seller. Same deal. Image manipulation. Also auction kings also image manipulation big time. All their images look the same for each coin. Also North East auction. NEA doesn't manipulate the photos but he cleans, polishes, messes with a lot of them. Beware folks.
Not good! Bad practices such as this will catch up with them. They could easily sell the coin with non manipulated images and increase their chances for long term customer satisfaction. The feedback could be coming from people with poor eyesight.
I always thought something was wrong with his pictures. I have never bought any coins from him, but his pictures do not look normal, I can’t understand why his feedback is so high.
When reporting sellers like this, would you or have you included links to your videos, like this one, in the report, as supporting proof of accusations? Thanks for sharing videos like this. These fraudsters need to be stopped, at least banned from big sites like eBay. Of course, people need to do some due diligence prior to purchasing. Aloha
The photos of the First 1889 are not the same coin….The Scratch of Original is Horizontal but the one you showed what you say you received the scratch is Vertical… how can you say they’re both the same coin when the scratch next to the ear is in different directions?
Lord, I've watched this guy for ages. He is probably the biggest offender (at least in the Morgan world) of anybody, but there are dozens more doing exactly the same thing. His auctions always have a ton of bidders, and it is a mystery to me how he can continue on and on and on and people still line up to bid and bid and bid. Sometimes there are legitimate people selling coins that can't take very good pictures, but when you see someone who has hundreds or thousands of sales and all their pictures look the same, and there's no detail, you have to think there are some shenanigans going on.
Unfortunately he must take advantage of people that don't know what a Morgan Dollar looks like,his images are beyond ridiculous and the color alone is just disreputable to what a true morgan dollar looks like,great video and information.
This ebay seller has stuff that are so bad and lots of cleaning and them pictures are fixed up. I don't know how others can give this person who sells these crap with positive rating. Over grade and over price for junks
How on earth does the seller have a 99.6 % positive rating ? You simply Must contact this seller and give him hell and a Big negative. WOMAN do this with makeup on a day. 😅
Talk about manipulated photos! I've seen various sellers 'smooth' out the photos so that the coins look fabulous. This seller should be banned from selling on eBay if they don't post unaltered photographs.
Pretty easy to tell how he did it as you cartwheel the coin and the automatic EV compensation goes up and down on the video. It's not easy getting a good picture of something like this, and is very similar to taking good pictures of jewelry to sell online. Still not an excuse.
It is insane that ebay allows these types of dealers to continue using their platform. Such obvious manipulated images it's shameful. There should be a strict prohibition of altered photos in the ebay terms of service if there isn't already.
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Daniel I bought a coin from them when I first started it was my first Morgan and I was so upset by the quality I returned it that was 4 years ago and I promise I still don't have my money back oh well lesson was learned now I have a couple of lcs that I transact with or I'll buy from you or rft
How out your explain how you have almost 200,000 subscribers and 14 likes on your last community section post.
The coin could be made of tin............and it would be less FAKE than your channel.
You are NOT a Good Man.
You are a P.O.S
Scumbag
I bought one of my first morgans from them 2.5 years ago and i was so disappointed when i opened the package. Thanks for doing these videos Daniel @phillipharmon2887 @CoinHELPu
Take them back to lcs you'll get 20$ maybe for those coins 😮
Man, this seller gave Lady Liberty a great face-lift. She looks 100 years younger in his pictures! He should stop selling coins and get into the glamour shot business.
100 years younger.....😂😂😂
lmao
This seller might be one of the testimonials on those beauty creams in the commercials.
LOL
Some politicians could definitely use his skills! I'm thinking of one in particular who resembles a corpse, and acts like one much of the time!
I think that guy should be locked up for fraud. I'd be pissed off if I bought one of those coins. Thanks for sharing and have a Great Day.
Total scam! Instant refund! The seller has big walnuts for scamming his customers. Dang it!
I have bought from the same dealer and know exactly what you're talking about. Not anymore! Good video Daniel!!
Didn't you at least provide negative feedback?
Can you imagine how much money Morgan Dealer has made over the years via misleading photography? I'm glad to have gotten educated before falling prey to this seller, amongst others. Thank you, David.
he also received over hundred negative feedbacks on ebay within the 6 and 12 month period, Can't believe they are still in business.
I bought one coin from MorganDealer in 2023. The coin was falsely advertised through deliberate smudging and blurring of defects. I kept it as a lesson to myself to never buy Morgans on eBay again. I use Photoshop professionally and, like you, i can replicate MorganDealer's phony-photo manipulation techniques. Thank you, Daniel, for getting the word out.
I would be more concerned that the coin was actually 90% silver !
Bunk editing seems to fool so many people. I don’t get it. With respect, we all have to be more diligent, even when we are new to purchasing coins or even jewelry. I have gotten beat over carbon spots on coins because I just didn’t look hard enough or ask enough questions. I’m talking about to the point of corrosion spots that were hidden.
Never bought a bad Morgan on eBay. It's not eBay's fault for your bad decisions.
@@fifteenbyfive No, it is not eBay's doing that Morgan Dealer alters the images of his coins with photoshop. My only bad decision was thinking that he had an inferior camera set-up. Now i know he is deliberately messing with the images.
@@ulexite-tv The difference between how the photo looks and how the coin actually looks is the only thing that should matter. I'd never buy another coin again if that happened to me, thinking its bad photography. I'd hit him with a bad review for that too because that's a part of the business.
Yup. I've learned my lesson when I was a rookie buyer. The picture looks good but what you get is a different story
Same thing happened to me. Learned the hard way for sure!
When you scroll through the Morgans on eBay, his images stand out like a sore thumb. Seems like people would just avoid his coins because the manipulation is so obvious, but every coin sells. Sad.
But yet they get a lot of bids and sells on every coin he puts up on the listing. This dude is making money no matter what for years now.
I really appreciate this! I still haven't bought from eBay, yet. But when I do I'm not purchasing anything from this guy. You are really helping the hobby and saving people a lot of heartache and trouble! I appreciate everything you do bud!
I run an ebay store just on the premise of the way that he sells coins if you want somebody who's uploading the front and the back of the coin the way that it looks on my camera and being as honest and cost effective for YOU & ME😊❤ Stay safe my friend
Ebay is fine but watch what you're doing. Make sure they have ultra clear photos and many positive reviews saying that the coin was exactly as described. Many of them have brick and mortar stores behind eBay. Do some googling. It'll save you money over eBay too by dealing directly with them.
Oh and no less than a 30-day, no questions asked, return policy. That's an absolute must. I don't care how good the deal is. Any honest dealer would invite a 30-day inspection of the coin. It's only fair that a buyer gets to hold the coin in his hand before he makes the absolute final decision on keeping it.
eBay is a resource, but be careful and use good judgement.
@@robertcook5201 Best resource, if, most ppl just purchase. I just look.
Those coins are cleaned to within an inch of their lives. Very excellent fact finding video. Much appreciated.
Daniel, can I ask how you take your pictures for when you yourself list.....is it a Microscope with your phone attached? Or do you have an actual camera setup?
The only argument I'd say for Morgan Dealar is this.....although the pics are altered, the customers must be happy overall if they are NOT returning the coins and actually leaving good comments with a 99.7% Positive reviews. I've read the reviews of the negative/nuetral ones of Morgan Dealer and those all say he immedietly refunded their money when they complained. I'm not saying what MorganDealer is doing is right....but clearly there isn't enough people upset for a 40 dollar coin to leave them unhappy enough to return it and then leave a bad comment......the customers seem pretty happy.
Just my 2 cents,
Thanks for the videos. I watch all of them!
In retail only about 20% complain or return items they're not happy with, so that's the answer on that, most just don't say anything and the rest are ignorant until they find out the truth.
Thank you Daniel another excellent video I appreciate your efforts to educate others and improve the hobby in general!
Fraud is fraud .great video
So take them to court and prove it. Just throwing accusations around isn't going to stop them. It might even be libelous.
@@fifteenbyfivehey 🤡, it's in the works.
I've ordered from them and they are never as pictured
so that's ok with you? why not contest it?
I saw those listings and thought "oh hell no". Thanks for satisfying my morbid curiosity
Fake, no real Morgan Silver Dollars look as good as the fake picture.
That first image of the Morgan obverse reminded me of Barbara Stanwyck in the "Big Valley" TV series. She was a great beauty in early movies, and was still quite attractive in her 50s on the TV series, but she was showing her age a bit. So when the camera was on her, they would use bright and diffuse lighting, and maybe they put Vaseline on the camera lens. Then when the camera switched to one of the men, the lighting would be harsh and you could see the guy's pores and 5 o'clock shadow.
I guess the same principle was used when photographing this coin. But still: let the buyer beware. If a coin looks MS67+ in an image, ain't NOBODY going to sell that coin raw.
I like this post! Made my night brother😂
@@acousticshadow4032how bout the vaso and Linda Evans dinked hub😂😂😂😂😂
Oh Daniel, you are a good coin guy. Thanks again.
It's hard to believe that after looking at those doctored up photos why anyone would buy from this seller
I agree.
My first thought was why would your customer want to buy $40 raw common date Au Morgan’s that say cleaned in the title ?
I think it was a great idea for you to do this for a video for everyone and I appreciate that
Another point id like to make is that many of these high volume sellers hide behind a 100 percent free return policy and just bank on the fact that 3/4 of people won’t utilize that so it’s a numbers game.
Even when they do get negative feedback they’re able to have eBay take it down for them so their 98%-99.9% seller ratings are very misleading
He wanted me to do the video.
When I first started buying coins from Ebay, I bought a few coins from this seller. I found the same thing to be true about his coins. Several years back he was selling coins that had no mentioned of being cleaned but obviously were. Later he added to the description that some coins may have been cleaned. I stopped buying from the seller and kept the few I bought just for their silver content.
I would of returned it if I was you. You can't let these bad Ebay coin sellers get away with it because there just going to keep doing it to other people that purchase off of them. And you know what they do it to the wrong person that person is going to come down hard on that bad seller.
I had just won an auction from Morgan Dealer when I saw this video and sure enough when the coin came today, it does not look like what it looked like in the listing photos! I spent nearly $400 on an 1884 CC. He listed it as PL and MS+++. Completely misleading! Thank you for the information! I will report to eBay and complain to FTC.
You been had. I bought recently on 8/27/24 from Morgan Dealer off ebay too. I purchased a Morgan 1884-CC $480 and 1883-CC $511 both BU+++ and 10 other supposedly high grade uncirculated Morgan silver dollars. Each of them were all auction bids and I won them all. I racked up a bill of $1644 which is left on my ebay cart awaiting payment. It says in the listing that payment is due after 7 days of winning so I didn't pay and kept shopping for more coins to bid from this seller. Then I had to triple think what I was doing I was wandering Why are all the pictures of all the coins on this sellers ebay store look so good and brand new compared to other ebay sellers pictures selling Morgan silver dollars. I thought about google searching about this seller and search on RUclips. I was lucky I came to this RUclips video and I put a halt of paying Morgan Dealer and opened a dispute with Ebay customer service. Ebay says don't worry about it, they found it on my favor that I don't have to pay this seller and Morgan Dealer will be investigated.
Thanks Daniel, always great info here.
Awesome video. Great information. Thank you again for doing this.
Thanks for doing this video, I bought a few from morgan dealer and all of them had altered photos… I only paid a bit over 50 bucks for the coins so lesson learned, I still have silver but not the coins pictured
I've been seeing those altered Morgans on ebay for a while. They stick out like a sore thumb and I scroll right past them!
Good for you for calling this seller out. I hope they'll be turned on to your video. People that lack integrity make me lose hope in humanity.
I've sold coins on the flebay for over a decade. I've never manipulate my images for anything I've sold. It's just not worth the trouble of returns. Good pictures also protect the seller to prove any issues a buyer may raise, are existing.
What this seller is doing is despicable, and possibly criminal. Everyone with an eBay account should report this seller.
This seller has over 1300 listings and every single listing I've seen is manipulated in the same way. I've reported a dozen listings. Only 1290 to go...
Everyone watching this video should report all listings with manipulated images. A return policy does not negate the need for accurate listings. It certainly does not remove liability from fraudulently presenting an item through manipulation of the images.
Listings like that are the reason I will NEVER buy a coin from a photo.
@@acousticshadow4032 Yeah that's true, but once that trust is broken it's hard to get it back. Nothing really beats holding the coin in hand to make a decision.
@@acousticshadow4032 I agree. I've gotten some fantastic deals on eBay. More often than not because the seller took a crappy picture of the coin. My most recent purchase netted me a Morgan silver dollar worth three times+ my purchase price - a 1900-O in BU condition (MS-64?) with a large die crack. And though the photo was bad, I could see enough details that I took a leap of faith and purchased the coin. It helped that the seller had 100% positive feedback and 30-day money back guarantee.
Thank you Sir. I ironically was looking at the photos from that same person tonight. It seemed as a altered image in the photo. I'm watching the sales on the 1880. But, I had a major problem when I saw it. Too much luster and shine. Wild how this video came up when I was looking at them prior to seeing this. Algorithm FTW!
At 3:19 I would say it's not even the same coin. In the photo it has staining over U in UNUM but not in your sample. Different scratch mark patterns, too.
Excellent presentation Daniel! Thank you very much for sharing. As far as I'm concerned this particular seller is ripping people off on purpose.
Hi Daniel, I subscribed to your channel and watched all your videos. I bought quite a few Morgan Silver Dollar Coins from Morgan Dealer on ebay, I was not paying attention then to the detailed authencity of those items I bought, except just look at it and make sure it is the same coin upon receiving it. I did not scrutinized the full detail then, and just now I realized that you made your point. Photos on ebay when items are on sale were manipulated, I received the same coin as described and some of them were not near to the quality as to the photo shown on ebay when it was on sale. Any legal actions you might or anyone you will be known to file a lawsuit against this Dealer as to the misleading photos, count me in and I would like to join the band. Thanks, and have a great day and a great year ahead!
He drastically softened Liberty’s features. Not a lighting adjustment, but actual manipulation. Disgusting.
When I order from Ebay I sometimes find that I get ripped off with shipping fees. You buy a coin at what seems to be a reasonable price, then you forgot to look at the shipping costs....woops.
My favorite ever. “They offer $$ back guarantee. That’s not what I’m here for, I’m not interested in that”. Awesome Sir. Thank you as always for what you do
We as a group should buy everything that morgandesler has up and then use the not as described return button and send the crap back. The image is part of the description. What the seller says is irrelevant if the picture doesn’t represent the actual coin.
Good video . I wish everyone one took detailed pictures of there coins . I buy a lot coins and it's a crap shoot . Thx Daniel appreciate you . Anyway you could do video on the new pennies 2004 2006 2015 . There alot on them but none really show what to look for .
Keep these educational vids coming. They help a lot of people and save them the money and headache of getting taken by these scammers.
I have taken pictures of a coin & when I looked at it, it looked like it had an error on it just from the light disturbed you gotta be careful taking pictures of Coins.
Maybe there needs to be a class action lawsuit against the sellers and ebay for letting this fraudulent practice to go on!
Not only is this fraud. Go look at all the repetitive BOT comments. No way he has a 99.6% positive feedback otherwise. So the real question is, why is this allowed to happen?
Thank you for posting this. I really hope this seller loses sales from this video. They are definitely not going to stop doing this since they have been doing it for years. This is the reason why I don't buy coins off Ebay. I will only buy from reputable brick and mortar dealers.
Thank you for this Daniel. I have recently started (carefully) with numismatics, evolving from just stacking and awareness videos like yours are invaluable. 👍 . EBay remains a minefield for all of us.
great video daniel, you should let us know if this company contacts you about this video. It would be interesting to hear thier take. thanks
well yes your probably right on all counts. yet i know that many ebay sellers will respond right away if you give them a neutral feedback. maybe the smaller seller is more concerned about reputation than these larger ones. anyway the video was helpful. thanks@@acousticshadow4032
Yea that dealer definitely gave those Morgans the photographic Botox treatment. He's a crook for sure.
This reminds me of my my first wife. She was beautiful, I married her, got her on the honeymoon and when she woke up the first day without makeup I had to ask, "Who are you? What happened to the girl I married?" Photo editing is a lot like makeup.
Wow! I never even thought that someone would do any editing on photos of their coins. That's awful!
These people manipulate the pictures of the coin, bought one and i return it back bitcoin was really bad.
The answer to "why mess with the images" is obvious. Money. Anyone that has handled silver dollars would know immediately the images are doctored. I won't buy coins with images that are tilted/angled either. It's more important that the text in the advertisement is mostly correct. This boils down to: does ebay allow photo manipulation and misrepresentation of appearance. This seller obviously believes in the PT Barnum adage.
Morgan Dealer think they can get away with it and think there are people are stupid that they won't understand the difference and just accept it as it is.
Report them to the FTC and include a link to this video!
Just looked. He's doing the same this still. I made a mistake and bought a couple from MorganDealer. Never again. There's another M______ named dealer that was doing the same thing. Got a coin album from him and the whole front cover had pulled away from the pages. Of course that picture wasn't included in the listing. I'm sure it was not included on purpose. Returned it.. Thanks for the video. Wish I had seen this a while ago
Enjoyed the video. Great job as usual! Thank you.
I see them all the time on ebay, you can tell they are fixed up, thanks for the video Dan. what a scam job. shame on the seller.
I must be doing something wrong on my eBay, guess i need Photo shop 101 LOL!!! Seems to make more work then a good photo
And Ebay gives him a "Top Rated Plus" designation! Geeze
People can sell coins honestly, borderline or be blatantly dishonest. Using the "same person" excuse on a dating app where your muscles and chin line are photo shopped would certainly be noticed in person and these coin sellers are no different. Dishonest because the manipulation of images if clearly purposeful. What absolutely blows my mind is the seller calling the second coin "AU". They move Morgans in tonnage and they seriously believe this is AU?? No way in heck. Thank you for posting this and keep calling these guys out, Daniel!
As someone who does photoshop and illustrator a lot I could already tell in half a second that the photo in the ebay listing was badly altered. I get suspicious of ebay coins in general. Not something I would take a risk on. I'd rather see it in person before I consider buying it.
I bought a 1921 from Morgandealer, and then started seeing a bunch of videos of fake Morgan's. I knew my when I bought it the picture had to be manipulated cuz let's be honest, looks like it was just minted in most all his pics. Made me wonder if the coin I received is real. Can you confirm the coins you received are in fact real?
Wow! That's a big difference in quality. I'm not just a coin collector since I was 9-10 (and I'm 76)... it I've been a photographer since then also. I can say I honestly believe the seller had somebody sllightly
Blur the surface to make it appear clean and smooth in Photoshop. Total manipulation. Also...China has been reproducing American coins that ARE sold as replicas really cheap. A couple bucks. Look very real! I would not be surprised if the con artists are having Chinese coin replica manufacturers making them illegally for underground dealers who con amateur collectors. Just for the heck of it I bought a couple. And they look and weigh the same as the real coins. Unreal. I bought a few out of curiosity legally and I was impressed.
Yeah, I've seen those fakes too, they call them "album fillers" but they're just flat out counterfeits. They don't have any markings on them to indicate they're fake, so I reckon those sellers are breaking the law against counterfeiting. I wonder how many buy them & then resell them as real coins on Ebay? What a scam.
Great educational video; thanks for sharing this information.
Ebay is almost always a scam when buying anything in PM's . they sell a lot of Chinese items also.
Great Video! Brings real attention to the Company in China! Ripoff Company! Ron
There is a silky translucent in the fields, which you never see on a genuine Morgan. I would just assume when you see this Milke white glow throughout the fields of the coin that it’s being manipulated.
I buy a lot of Morgans from eBay. I learned right from the beginning to ignore any Morgan Dealer listings. Every coin looks unnatural, like they've been tooled to begin with. Based on your video, the actual coins you purchased look better than the fake polished photos. I'm amazed at the number of people who get defrauded by that seller. The seller readily allows returns to avoid negative comments. It's a numbers game. Most people won't bother to return, or complain if they get their money back.
But he already racked up over hundred negative feedbacks within the 6 month and 12 month period in his past history of selling on ebay. There's a chart of all feedbacks showing positive, neutral and negative feedbacks that people left.
Thanks 👍👍👍👍👍
For decades fast food has given us commercials of food that never looks exactly like the food we receive. We should all sue for deceptive images!
a lady sued because the face on the pkg wasnt on the actual candy search for "Hershey is sued for selling Reese’s Peanut Butter cups without ‘cute pumpkin faces"
There are a lot of scoundrels and scammers out there. Heard when now posting on Facebook Marketplace scammers immediately swoop in. These "markets" and "auctions" are such huge money machines that they don't seem to care. 💩 Cheers 🤠
I have also bought from this dealer. I'll just say I won't be a future buyer. Thanks for sharing!
The seller is probably using what is named Neural filter in the new Photoshop. It is typically used to smooth skin tones. It is basically a one-click operation.
Wow Daniel...some real shady stuff going on there. I'm so thankful and grateful for your time and effort on this video. Great educational stuff here. It's just so unnecessary. It happens. And clearly it happens more than we know. Thanks again.
Only buy from ebay stores that have 100% positive feedback. PERIOD. 99.6% positive, for this seller, is 106 neutral and 126 negative feedback in the past 12 months. Don't be stupid, people.
I’ve seen this on eBay
Obviously photo edited!
Looks like they used the surface blur filter in Photoshop
I agree. I got to playing around more after the video.
Online you win some you lose some. I rolled the dice and bought a 1938 proof. And a 1940 proof nickel for $40 each last week and they were absolute gems
Depends on what coin dealer your purchasing from. Not all of them are bad. You just gotta do your homework and know who to go to before making a coin purchase.
The seller's description may be a little misleading but have you tried to buy any Morgans or American silver eagles from CHINA...? HOLY CRAP IF YOU DIDN'T HAVE A SCALE OR A MAGNET YOU'D NEVER BE ABLE TO TELL THEY'RE COUNTERFEIT!!! How can they sell them here? E Bay doesn't mind
False advertising, fraud....demand repayment. Make the needed posted bad reviews.....and sue. Gotta protect the hobby!
No way ? Seriously ? Wow.
Nope. I'd be asking for a refund, real quick.. That is bad business all the way around.
I bought a Morgan last year that was 'naturally' toned.. When it arrived, I could tell this was not the same coin I bought. My receipt stated 'artificial' toned Morgan. I asked for my money back with a prepaid FEDEX label, to no avail. I sent it back on my own with a signature required tracking and disputed it with eBay. I finally got a refund after 3 months.
Sad world we live in these days...
This is horrible......I would never pay that much. I'm sorry. I would have to send these back. SMH
FTC Federal Trade Commission. Call your US Representative's office and ask them to assist you in contacting the FTC. Don't expect them to do all the work. They have much more to do than babysit people who jumped into collecting coins without the proper caution.
This seller has many items online. I've never purchased from them because I knew 1st time I saw his listings that they was photo manipulation. It's so horrible that they do this! Potentially new collectors will be disappointed by these type of sellers and gives the hobby a very bad look. Auction kings/Toliver James are even WORSE of photo manipulation. Thanks for exposing them.
Thank you for the continued information. I saw these guys on eBay and took the pictures as manipulated as well. Buy with caution from them for sure
I bought from Morgan dealer several years ago. The coin came and was not as pictured. I returned it. But, ... next time I tried to buy from him I was blocked from bidding. That's how he works. Find new suckers to sell to. Scammer.
This dealer is still on Ebay as of 7-23-24, and you can clearly see all their listings have altered photos and not much of a good track record either.Stay away from this seller!!!
I learn from you every time I see yer video . These coins were a Rip- Off fer sure . They just didn't look right at all ( too good ) . Best too go to a dealer and see fer yer self just what yer buying . It's a bloody shame people do this . If and when I order coins I get them from JM Bullion , or 1/ 2 others I've bought from before . Thanks again for the great info . Tom Daytona Beach , FL. 1, March 2024 .
You and I have discussed this before, but neither you nor I would ever buy a coin from a seller who posted images like that. He made that thing look like one of the modern Morgans.
People need to learn that well before the Internet and digital photography, Miss November didn't even really look IRL like Miss November in the porn mags...
Used car dealers used to put sawdust in worn out transmissions to muffle the noise for awhile, and they still use bondo to fill rust holes and then paint them over, which bubbles up and falls off six months later.
Buyers need to be educated to recognize this obvious fraud. You're doing a good thing to help with that.
Yes, you did get ripped off.
Thank you for revealing this suspicious activity.
Now, that I know what to look for, i can scroll down the list of morgan dollars on ebay and easily pick out the ones listed by this dealer.
I just did this, and at this moment in time, there are 8 listings from this dealer. As I said, they are easy to pick out from the other listings. That is because in all 8 listings, the coins each have the same smooth, flawless surface tone as your example.
Anyone who is familiar with morgans and stops to think about it, would realize they dont normally look this way!
Have you reported them to ebay as suspected fraudulent activity because they are manipulating the images?
I've bought from the same seller. Same deal. Image manipulation. Also auction kings also image manipulation big time. All their images look the same for each coin. Also North East auction. NEA doesn't manipulate the photos but he cleans, polishes, messes with a lot of them. Beware folks.
It looks like Morgandealer is using Photoshop to add a surface blur to his coins.
Not good! Bad practices such as this will catch up with them. They could easily sell the coin with non manipulated images and increase their chances for long term customer satisfaction. The feedback could be coming from people with poor eyesight.
I always thought something was wrong with his pictures. I have never bought any coins from him, but his pictures do not look normal, I can’t understand why his feedback is so high.
When reporting sellers like this, would you or have you included links to your videos, like this one, in the report, as supporting proof of accusations? Thanks for sharing videos like this. These fraudsters need to be stopped, at least banned from big sites like eBay. Of course, people need to do some due diligence prior to purchasing. Aloha
The photos of the First 1889 are not the same coin….The Scratch
of Original is Horizontal but the one you showed what you say you received the scratch is Vertical… how can you say they’re both the same coin when the scratch next to the ear is in different directions?
Lord, I've watched this guy for ages. He is probably the biggest offender (at least in the Morgan world) of anybody, but there are dozens more doing exactly the same thing. His auctions always have a ton of bidders, and it is a mystery to me how he can continue on and on and on and people still line up to bid and bid and bid. Sometimes there are legitimate people selling coins that can't take very good pictures, but when you see someone who has hundreds or thousands of sales and all their pictures look the same, and there's no detail, you have to think there are some shenanigans going on.
Unfortunately he must take advantage of people that don't know what a Morgan Dollar looks like,his images are beyond ridiculous and the color alone is just disreputable to what a true morgan dollar looks like,great video and information.
To me the photo manipulation and mis-grading is fraud. He obviously sells to uneducated coin individuals. Ebay should really be notified.
This ebay seller has stuff that are so bad and lots of cleaning and them pictures are fixed up. I don't know how others can give this person who sells these crap with positive rating. Over grade and over price for junks
How on earth does the seller have a 99.6 % positive rating ? You simply Must contact this seller and give him hell and a Big negative. WOMAN do this with makeup on a day. 😅
Talk about manipulated photos! I've seen various sellers 'smooth' out the photos so that the coins look fabulous. This seller should be banned from selling on eBay if they don't post unaltered photographs.
Pretty easy to tell how he did it as you cartwheel the coin and the automatic EV compensation goes up and down on the video. It's not easy getting a good picture of something like this, and is very similar to taking good pictures of jewelry to sell online. Still not an excuse.
I've been ripped off by EBAY sellers of coins enough I will NEVER by from any of them.
It is insane that ebay allows these types of dealers to continue using their platform. Such obvious manipulated images it's shameful. There should be a strict prohibition of altered photos in the ebay terms of service if there isn't already.