Are Your Coins Cleaned? Identify Cleaned Coins - How To Tell If A Coin Is Cleaned
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How to tell if a coin is cleaned. Cleaned coins come in different appearances and it is important to know what that looks like.
Refraction: the fact or phenomenon of light, radio waves, etc., being deflected in passing obliquely through the interface between one medium and another or through a medium of varying density.
Translucency: is a superset of transparency: it allows light to pass through, but does not necessarily (again, on the macroscopic scale) follow Snell's law; the photons can be scattered at either of the two interfaces, or internally, where there is a change in index of refraction. 
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Thin-film interference is where the refraction comes into play. If a coin doesn't have any refractive qualities then it is usually cleaned at one time.
Refraction: the fact or phenomenon of light, radio waves, etc., being deflected in passing obliquely through the interface between one medium and another or through a medium of varying density.
Translucency: is a superset of transparency: it allows light to pass through, but does not necessarily (again, on the macroscopic scale) follow Snell's law; the photons can be scattered at either of the two interfaces, or internally, where there is a change in index of refraction.
Thank u very much for that it's really an awesome helpful..
But If u don't mind can I send u a pictures of some coins & Help me to know if it cleaned or not ?
all coins have been cleaned by the banks or by dealers, they all lie
and if you store them in plastic like you are they will have a chemical reaction and scorn, so store them in glass or learn the hard way
Thanks for this vid. Excellent analysis!
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When you pay someone else, it's "restored".. when YOU do it, it's "cleaned" :D
Not restored, conserved.
Indeed!
Big fees! LOL
It is all about money.
I'm all new to this coin collecting and the information about. I totally agree with your post. So it's some big secret on how the "coin restoring professionals" clean a coin? And no one can properly clean a coin, unless you spend money for someone else to do it for you, for them to make a prophet for their hours of work. I say it's a total BS con.
I've been collecting for thirty years and never heard it explained so well.
Thank you
Wow! I haven’t ever heard any other coin videos go into the depth on cleaned coins as yourself! Very impressed! Will keep watching your videos!😊👍🏼Lots of Love Bobbi 😊
Thanks for making videos like this one. I have been collecting for over 50 years and still have a hard time spotting cleaned coins. I like to think I am better at it than I use to be. After getting burned too many times over the years, I only buy slabbed coins today and even then very carefully ! I enjoy your channel. 😀
Same here! I started collecting over 60 years ago and am at the point that I'd rather have the coin in a plastic tomb than be fooled that it's a valuable coin. While this video is a great into to spotting cleaned coins, I could still get fooled. Cheers!
This is one of the best videos on this topic I’ve ever seen! Even though those coins have cartwheeling luster, they were still cleaned. Thanks for the useful info! You just gained a new subscriber!
Thank you for the positive comment.
I'm new to coin collecting I really appreciate the info. People that share their experience like yourself is truly a gem to the hobby.
I love your videos! The other coin channels are entertaining and serve a purpose for what their mission may be. With that said if I want knowledge, information or just an honest no bs approach to something coin related this is the place I look to! Keep up the good work it’s not unnoticed!
Thank you
Exceptional video, Daniel! This can apply to any coin/composition, but now I've got to inspect my grandfather's Morgans for cleaning. My Pop Pop never would have cleaned them, but my MOTHER will polish anything silver that can't run away! 😳Have learned so much from you! Thanks for all you do! 🤗🪙💰🪙💚
This is a very helpful video, especially for understanding the "frosting" effect. You were actually able to show it, which I'm sure isn't easy.
Probably one of the MOST educational videos I have watched about cleaned coins! Thanks =)
Thank you!
Lol love the save of the refrection to refraction. Well done. Thanks for this. I bought 6 almost bu peace dollars from an lcs. An guys at the club said 2 were cleaned. The shop owner said they weren't
I dont believe they are. You gave me the things to look for. Thanks bud, you're the most helpful channel
Awesome video, i’ve been trying to learn the basics of identifying cleaned coins and this was a huge help. After watching this vid, I don’t believe that my prize coins were ever cleaned and that is amazing for obvious reasons. Learning about how that outer layer changes after cleaning was a huge help.
I accidentally cleaned a BU peace dollar that look like the two peace dollars you show in the video. I only had a few BU coins and thought the “blast white” finish needed to be wiped off with a cloth, so that’s what I did, but no chemicals or other cleaners were used.
I wish I had seen this video first.
This video has lots of quite helpful information. Well done my friend.
This has helped me so much! I debate whether or not a coin I'm interested in is cleaned or not. It is sometimes really difficult to tell. Your tutorial has really informed me on how to better spot a cleaned coin! Thanks for this!
Thank you. I’ve been collecting for 7 years and I’ve leaned quite a bit from this
This guy is undoubtedly the best on you tube!..I've seen so many of his videos that I should have a PhD on it
Have seen over a dozen of CH videos and this one belongs in the Top 10% folks. It is a lot to get on the first run, so save this link. Main takeaways, abridged: 1. NEVER clean a coin
2. Restorations if needed can be done by PCGS/NGC. 3. Look at coins from different ANGLES [e.g. dark frosty layer] and get several pics from several angles before buying and TYVM Daniel!
Thank you!
I wanted to take a moment to thank you so very
Much for taking the time to help us or at least me to learn so much about coins and how to care for them and how to look for keepers and non-keepers. Thanks so much for saving me from making some serious mistakes. Have a great week.
You're welcome
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Glad you are pointing these differences between cleaned and non. Very informative. Keep it up!
Beginners like myself are very appreciative of you devotion to teaching us. It is very easy to get in above our heads. Thank you!!!
Wow nice job i have learned more from you out of one video than watchin certain other youtubers careers. Thanks i am a father of 2 young girls just started getting them in to this and it is a blessing to have someone lile you to learn from. Thanks.
Thank you. I appreciate you compliment.
Great video! No one on you tube that I know goes into the details of coin grading and the bad apple's like you have! Keep up the great work and info!
Go Buck's!
Thank you!
You did a good video! It's so hard for me to see some of the things your talking about sometimes though cause I guess I just need more experience. Thanks for the great video! I've subscribed to your channel. Keep making these great videos! Thanks much!
Nice work on this video. Always educational Daniel. Keep the good stuff coming
Thank you!
Man,! you do put the good information out about about coins and the care you need to protect them. Thank you!.
Thank you
I know you have seen a little of everything, when it comes to coins and the knowledge is greatly appreciated by many ! I was going through some pennies and found quite a few that had different colors of paint, and colors of grit along with shiny ,like nickel cobwebs all over them . Well the grit tastes salty, and they are stamp marks on the substance, along with letters etc etc !!! From the 60s thru 2004 so far . Thanks for any info .
Thanks for some basic education on coin cleaning and what it means/causes. New to coin collecting - and this has been the most helpful video so far.
You are doing a great public service!!! Thanks..
I really appreciate the information you give on your channel.. you cover things we actually deal with day to day in our collecting.
Thank you
He does an amazing job on his channel I really appreciate him and his videos. I have personally learned so much from him.
I just watched the toms gold dirt 99 dollar grab bag! That was awesome!!!! Ive been subbed for a while but I was just coming by to let tom know he has our support!
Would love to see another video or a few on the nuances of different types of cleaned coins. Specific targets to look for maybe on mercury dimes, buffalo nickels, any other coins that may have different tricks or specific warning sighns specific to them. Thanks Dan!!
Some pretty high-level content here. Thanks Daniel - excellent video as usual.
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for making these videos, I try not to ms70 clean nor dip any of my coins however I have. As only being 3 years into learning how to grade and judge wear/details of coins your videos are extremely helpful. Thanks 😊
New subscriber. Been looking for actual explanation on cleaning. Awesome job. Will definatly be watching more. Thanks
Thank you
Outstanding video. Should be required viewing for all coin collectors.
Thanks
I've learned several key points here. This knowledge is going to help me out in deciding how to buy coins now. This knowledge is very valuable.
I probably have a bunch of cleaned Morgans. Thank you for these videos. So much to learn.
Thank you for explaining why you should NOT ever clean a coin! I finally understand the importance of leaving it be.
Always great to watch you teach! Thank you!
Im learning more and more watching your informative Shows. Thanks.
You're welcome
Dear Daniel. I will be trying to have my coins graded in the next month or 2. I will only hold myself accountable if I do not get the grading I thought. I am trying so rediciousally hard to choose my favorite errors and also what I believe is a meticulous coin. Thank YOU And all the coin dealers, helpers,and just the whole audiences THAT have ONE THING in common. Thank YOU we all love coins.Thank YOU
You're welcome and thank you.
Thanks for putting all of these vids together...I have learned a lot!
You're welcome and thanks for watching.
I always wanted to see how you can tell if a coin was cleaned. Thanks for the informative video. When I go to a coin show next time. I can look for any coins look like they have been cleaned.
Glad it helped
Thanks so much. I just started a Morgan/ Peace dollar collection 6 so far The 1st one i purchased from JM Bullion is a 1928 Peace dollar. I think its a low mintage year. Great video I subscribed to your channel today Looking forward to more Thanks again
Ive just started collecting. Morgans are my favorites. My Morgans appear original and mostly no mint marks. For now Im buying coins I like and no intention to sell. Thank you for all your viseos! I am learning a lot!
No mint marks mean Philly.
Thanks Dan I almost cleaned my coins .Again another good video . I noticed how you tried to talk slower Thanks . You trying shows that you care about what you do. I think you are #1 as far as coins.Thanks.
Thank you
Thank you for the education! Gave a thumbs-up!
Really good informational video. A wealth of knowledge shared with us all. Thank you.
I recommend anyone to this class ..Very good job...
Thanks
This is my first time to see your video. I was referred from a video from Spegtacular. I enjoyed your video and subscribed!
Thank you
Very informative, thank you so much for your wisdom sir!
Once again great Info, Ithe difference between the cleaned and uncleaned dollar was strikiing -no pun intended -thanks for sharing your expertise.
What an amazing video. Very informative! Thank you!
Excellent Video very informative and concise. I learn a lot from the video I didn't know. Thanks much.
You're welcome
I learned a lot on this. Thank you for your video!
Great vid on a complex topic. I've had the opposite happen to me with a coin that looked like someone ran a wire brush across the surface. Then someone on a coin forum pointed out that they were polishing lines and not cleaned. That would be a good follow up to this vid. Cheers! Bob
(I just saw vid thumbnail next to your vid, entitled "How to Clean Coins Using MS70 silver restorer) LOL
Great Video with lots of good info. Thanks
Wow I learned so much from this video! Thank you for the knowledge!!!
You're welcome and thanks for watching.
Excellent content and top quality. Thanks
Excellent educational video thanks much Daniel
You have got good eyes. If anyone buys coins on line always make sure the photos are in focus and from multiple directions. Make sure the dealer will take returns prior to ordering. Also then make sure any hairlines match up in the on-line photos and details of the coin received. Even then know sellers often have poor lighting or multi-source lighting that can make seeing details troublesome. I have been collecting for many years and absolutely can not afford high end coins, but even on lower value coins all collectors need to know how to grade or you will overpay and never get your value back out of a coin. Also everyone needs to know and research PVC residue and how to identify it. PVC is like a cancer to coins and the PVC cancer will only get worse with time. So many coins have PVC and once you own a coin that PVC needs to come off the coin because leaving it on will absolutely destroy the coins value whereas a cleaned coin will lose value, there are many people who will settle for properly light cleaned coin for a discount. A harshly cleaned coin will usually be worth no more than its metal or face value and the same is true for coins with PVC pitting. Everything this man said was gold for spotting cleaned coins!
Very interesting man you have skill and wisdom
IDK Dan, I agree with u. What your saying is spot on. This is also why I would never buy anything of value online & it's like u say. The only way to really get a good look at what ur buying is to hold it in ur hand & move it around to better see the angles & what they produce.
Haris Pilton silver snivler I've always been afraid too buy on line. Good luck friend.
Thank you! I've got an eye for details and the ones that have been cleaned stick out to me. My Mom gave me one that is maybe the same age as the ones you had graded and I saw right away that it looked different.
I have been buying 90% in bulk, all common dates all have been picked through. I find coins like Washington quarters that are brilliant, with no wear, you still see the breast feathers. I find great value in that coin even if it is only worth melt. I like the cull morgans, they are a great coin. I can't find anything wrong if I want to clean them. I will practice on them. I have seen damaged coins, good video.
Thanks for the wonderful knowledge. Makes perfect sense.
I enjoy your informative videos Daniel even though I still make mistakes on my local coin purchases I am learning . I keep my mistake purchases and label them as learning experiences on some they were both cleaned and polished to death the loss of details is enough to make you ask why did they destroy a beautiful coin.
Thank you sooo much for teaching and sharing!♡
Very good video! I am learning from you! I know a lot however if I can learn one more thing extra from your videos, then it is a win!
Thanks. It means a lot hearing that from an experienced numismatist.
Im getting really good at spotting cleaned coins coin roll hunting since alot of people were cleaning there change because of C. Hate to see people done that, but glad I'm picking up on that. Thanks for the video Daniel!
This is an interesting subject and would be worth further discussion for sure
DANIEL I LOVED THIS VIDEO. IT HELPED ME ALOT. THANK YOU
Great information Sir Daniel. Have a good day
Thanks for this video. I was wondering myself and now I feel almost confident some of the foreign coins I have are cleaned.
Wow I found that out myself yesterday. I cleaned a penny that had a very brilliant shine to it and luster ,but I thought that it could be brought out more but after I clean the coin it was a different color the luster that it first had was not there so I guess it lost that first thin layer of color that you were talking about. Thanks for the advice.
Thank you!! That was VERY informative!
You're welcome and thanks for watching.
Wow! Awesome info! Very stand up dude to be putting out this information! Thank you!!!!!
You're welcome
Great information. I am sure many can appreciate this teaching video :-)
Thank you!
Thanks for the great insights, knowledge is everything 👍
Good info here, appreciate it, Thank you!🙏🏽
Thank you for the information great video and examples sir 10/10
3 generations back my grand father taught me how to clean coins. He used a large pink eraser VERY GENTLY to just clean the very highlights or to show the date better BUT he always told the new owners what he had done. Me I prefer to use a glasses cleaning chamois BUT AGAIN very gently and only enough to slightly brighten the high lights NEVER enough to scratch or mar the coin and I also always tell the new owner what I have done (though to the really average eye and often the collector you can not tell BUT I know). I do not like using chemicals of any kind since that does eat away at the coin and over the years it will start to stain the coin no matter how careful you are and how well you dry it off.
By the way when I do use a red rubber eraser (if I have to) I always use cotton tipped tweezers and ONLY use enough pressure to hold the coin I also ALWAYS set the coin on a terry cloth towel so as to not scratch the reverse side. And when I look at coin that looks to good to be real I look to see of it has been cleaned and how the reverse side looks as off someone had set it on a hard surface. Finally INVEST in a jewelers loop or a really quality magnifying examine the coin (As well as a pair or two of cotton gloves about $5.50 at your local costume shop or tux shop) IF THE SELLER DOES NOT WANT TO LET YOU EXAMINE THE COIN UNDER LIGHT WITH A GLASS RUN DO NOT WALK BUT RUN TO THE FRONT DOOR. You are about to get screwed and likely not get kissed
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Hi🤪You have enlightened me on coin collecting in so many areas I didn't even know existed or should be something I should be watching for. I'm very grateful that I ran across your site. Your detail is so much more than anything I've watched so far. Never even heard "plating blisters" before.
Anyway, I've been saving all sorts of coine since I was a kid, that looked abnormal in my eye or stood out for some reason. At this point my question to you is is there any kind of a cloth to use just to brighten them up or are you not supposed to do anything?
Nice video! I agree with you on that 1902. The devices on look too polished for me. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks and you're welcome!
Hey Daniel, I (did) learn something from this video, Thank you. Now it's (your) turn to learn something....the (s) in debris, is Silent..lol😅 But seriously, Thanks for the vid, I had been wondering how to tell if one had been cleaned..appreciate it very much!
Brian S.
I'm getting a lot better at this, but you're right, it takes experience. I can spot a cleaned Morgan or Peace dollar a mile away, no matter how many filters the eBay seller uses. ;)
Thanks man for sharing that informative video keep em comming
You're welcome!
Would like to see a video that shows slight pvc damage vs tonning. How to tell the difference. Awesome video by the way!
Thank you for your priceless knowledge!!!
Yes please do more, I think I kinda see it, but not really certain and not enough coins looked at.
Thanks for this beautiful information
This was really helpful. Thank you.
You're welcome.
Good content. I learned a lot from this. I'm very pedantic about coins and particularly allergic to any kind of abrasive cleaning that's obvious when you meet the coin in person which wasn't visible in the auction photos. I've actually thrown such coins IN THE GARBAGE in a fit of rage. It's actually a good thing to do so you don't come across it later and be RE-enraged by it. The only cleaning I've ever done was non-oxidising chemical cleaning using solvents like benzene, acetone, and alcohol. I've bought large lots where the guy sent it to me wrapped in a baseball-sized lump with 200 layers of cellophane tape. After spending 45 minutes getting the tape off this, it naturally required the use of benzene to get the adhesives off. In the 1800s some collectors would coat their coins in shellac, and the only thing that dissolves that is alcohol. I've also used alcohol to disinfect coins which I suspected may have been contaminated with infectious biological material, like when the seller sent them to me wrapped in a VERY used bathroom carpet, or another case where she had placed the coin inside a cardboard toilet paper roll and folded over where the roll was obviously contaminated.
Sun Rabbit I have only been roll searching for between 3 and 4 year's and only being able to get quarters lately due to lires or the lie or the deceptive nature of people who say it is only their job I have found a semi rare quarter error. I have a pretty ugly coin that most likely would look much better cleaned. As such I dare not attempt cleaning even putting it in dishwater might spoil any value a 2009 Duke Wellington DDR with the ELL clearly visible using a loop even with my sight being poor due to my age. For over a week I have resisted the urge to send it to PCGS.
It's scratch on the obverse is long and on the neck of George. It is pretty bright otherwise and I have been trying to imagine what it would look like were cleaned up and graded. Not having learned to make good pictures of coins put brake's on listing it on ebay so I am sure in a pickle having no idea what the best route to take is. I'd spend a hundred bucks on it if I thought it would bring two or more times than that. I forget but recently I saw something in which one had brought like 3k. Knowing my coin probably is just a fair circulated example how
@@decoy2636 In your case I would suggest taking it to a coin dealer in person. The only other type of non-destructive coin cleaning technique I know of is using ULTRASOUND, and most dealers who specialise in ancient coins will have one. These are usually not the typical ultrasound cleaners you can buy for cleaning glasses or jewelry but high-powered ones costing a lot of money. I completely understand your situation with your eyesight getting weak with age, since I myself was diagnosed with cataracts which I was supposed to have had an operation for 15 years ago but chickened out. The solution for that (at least for me) was buying a DIGITAL MICROSCOPE. This is the best thing for checking huge quantities of coins, something I do myself, and it's very comfortable on your eyes. Beginning of this year I bought 10,000 US Cents at a flea market here in Germany for just 100 Euros and spent 3 months going through it. Result? TWO Wide AMs!! (I forget the date but I believe 1992) and about half were Wheats. The digital microscope is great because you see the whole coin as big as your computer screen. Just make sure it has a good light source. Regarding professional coin cleaning I'd suggest finding all the coin dealers in your area and calling them up, and asking them if they'd do it for you.
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Thank you for your kind words and response. I am wet behind the ears on this and have struggled to remain grounded although I don't know how many exist this one has been making rounds for a good decade and would have been written off if it was a deductible item on taxes.
I'm sorry to hear about your cataracts as I only use a 325 magnifying cheater to weld. My eyes were my best asset under the hood working as a Boilermaker in my past life. She is gone now but I was sure proud to find a coin that anyone else might be interested in. I have a Kennedy half, and a California quarter both of which have places the clad has turned loose and resulted in bubbles. Having welded quite a bit of clad in my career I'm fully aware that they're probably just coins that had concentrated heat applied at some point. I have fought that trying to get tied into the thicker inferior metal. It's a bit.. to make look decent once it turns loose and then a nightmare sometimes getting it sealed and intact so it passes a dye check test. It's useful to allow wear surfaces more life and cheaper inside smoke stacks or tanks as a liner. I appreciate your advice and I will drive to the next town and see if the shop I have dealt with on silver is still in business. I have hid from it and local gun and pawn shops since my 38 year marriage failed. I refused to let her come back home and had to pony up so to avoid temptation I have avoided those places where it's hard to stay "sober" or solvent. Maybe that guy with the temptations of silver can help me, you have and have my thanks. I just hesitated since sending it away only to learn that due to condition it's worth less than the cost. I can see how the rush you get could cause a reaction like hitting a lick shooting craps does. Thank you for the words coming from calm and reason.
You're the first person that explained what I've been up against arguing for the last half a century plus I started in the 60s but not doing it every day but I've argued that what about contaminants hygienic and things that you can get off of it and people go you don't want to clean it I'm not talking about using a wire wheel I'm talking about using a disinfectant chemical cuz you're going to find all kinds of stuff on there and then you're going to touch yourself and people would argue no don't ever clean it well there's also stuff underneath the contaminant that you can't see that is an error and I would only do it like acetone or alcohol and that's been my argument with people say don't clean it but then you get a sticky film on your fingers what is it? But then again certain contaminants are on their biological contaminants and that has been the argument so you can't tell me that a coin Grading Company doesn't remove something?
@@brantardrey7360 For removing infectious contaminants, the best way is 97% denatured alcohol. They sell it here for 2 Euros a liter, so super cheap because it's not drinkable. That gets rid of nearly everything on the surface and will dissolve shellac. It won't damage the coin in any way, and unless it's on your skin for hours on end, it's gentle on the skin too. That sticky dark film you get on your hands from handling large amounts of old coins is hand grease plus dust particles. These dust particles can include bacteria, viruses, spores, and atmospheric contaminants. Depending on the lot, you can get rid of that using regular dishwashing detergent, acetone, or benzene (lighter fluid) by placing the coins in a jar with the solvent and moving it around sufficiently to expose all the coins to it, then rinsing in pure water and drying them out.
Great eye Daniel. Great video!
Your videos are very helpful
Great video man.
Good info, I'm slowly learning, 👍
Dear Daniel...i know how you love the Morgan.I have to agree with the grading. YOU bring us meticulous pups to learn and study.Take a deep breath and the h-ck with them. I SIMPLY do not understand it. I see penny's and other denominations of coins GRADED by them and I just shake my head.Alot of viewers from different sites ((coin teachers)) are not even want to invest in the time LET alone the money.Your Morgan ...and I am not PCGS.
Is BEAUTIFUL and that darlin of a coin should have GRADED higher.I am more afraid people are backing out of PCGS because it's an inside matter. Well...Good for NGC then. When ( let me CALL myself a peon here for a moment) I think it's who you KNOW ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Thanks for your knowledge it's much appreciated!
I found an error state quarter, it has a circle going around the head, and the head of George Washington is enlongated, it's the salt river bay 2020,is it worth anything
I also just found a 1959 proof penny in almost mint condition could you please tell me if it's worth anything thanks a million!