In 1999 I was in college and constantly wondering why nobody did a remix of the Lazy Jones soundtrack, and I was so happy that Zombie Nation suddenly appeared and became so popular; it's like they read my mind.
@@martinDoesTrash It's no secret Zombie Nation enjoyed this little tune from the game. Most tunes in the game are licensed covers, but some are original songs by David Whittaker, including this tune. So ZN called David Whittaker, told him they really like the song, that they wanted to remix it or whatever and that they like to buy it. They didn't offer much but instead let Whittaker know he'd definitely lose if he take the case to court. So now the remix is played around the world, Zombie Nation has a major hit in their hands and no one knows about David Whittaker. OR Zombie Nation broke in to his home and stole the song in the middle of the night. ...
no lol. ZN copied it plain and simple. David heard it and called ZN, he said he wanted about 8000 deutsche marks (3-4000 euros) or he would sue them. They agreed and it was settled. So yea ZN "stole" a tune from a video game and called their own.
I remember playing the game back then! And now I know why something sounded familiar when listening to the remix by Zombie Nation. The scheme behind all things is now clearer. :D
The Zombie Nation sample is good for sure, but I'm even more intrigued by the first 21 seconds. Would make a fantastic sample too. Very impressive what they managed to create within the 8-bit limitations.
It's a bit counter-intuitive really. A lot of the classic and widely-recognized videogame themes came from the '80s and '90s, the reason being that there were many limitations like you said, so they had to make whatever they had work. Hence, you'd hear lots more memorable melodies from that era. Modern videogame music has more instruments to work with so they may often sound impressive but they just don't hit that sweet spot you'd see with older games.
Just reading some comments. Yes, ZN paid for the rights to use the tune... AFTER he was threatened with court action by David Whittaker. David was happy enough for it to be used, but not without attribution. I like the tune, instantly recognising its origin the first time I heard it, but he really did steal it and was caught out so had to pay.
This Name Was Available It's much softer in that, hardly recognisable. This was, however, an excellent find, I'm always on the lookout for what these old chiptunes were based on :D
+This Name Was Available The difference between Kernkraft 400 and Stardust is like the difference between Sam Smith's "Stay With Me" and Tom Petty's "I Won't Back Down", i.e. they're the exact same thing melodically. The difference between Stardust and Electronic Ensemble's "It Happened Then" is like the difference between Robin Thicke's "Blurred Lines" and Marvin Gaye's "Got to Give It Up": The latter clearly influenced the former in a big way, but it's not plagiarism, even if a court says so.
@@zorrothebug OMG! I’m still trying to piece my mind back together… From Electric Ensemble, to Lazy Jones, ending up with Kernkraft 400 - Everything’s a copy of a copy of a copy…
I was always wanting to see a techno remake of the Lazy Jones soundtrack, and was thrilled when it finally happened. Frankly any of those tunes could be made into something just as popular as Zombie Nation.
I didn't even knew it from Zombie Nation, but when Topic, A7S - Kernkraft 400 (A Better Day) came out I instantly thought in my head "I know this tune..." I then was pointed to Zombie Nation, but took me years to find out I knew it from Lazy Jones. Which then had me find out the very origin is from 'It Happened Then' by Electronic Ensemble from 1980.
Lorenzo Genito Purchased the rights ? YEAH SURE !!! Was that before or after publishing it ? Look at the "similiar cases" paragraph in this article: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timbaland_plagiarism_controversy
Lorenzo Genito He haven't purchased anything. He payed a lot of money after David Whittaker sued him, to avoid legal fees. Lot of djs and producers(and many serious composers too) think they can rip off music from everyone...
***** Ahahahahah. Are you serious? ahahahahahah German laws about copyright doesn't allow that at all!!! To cover a Song and recording it you need to ask permissions to the original label anyway and register the new song as cover. Kernkraft registered his music as an his original piece...
Just so everyone knows, Kernkraft 400 used this song WITH PERMISSION. The creator of this game only asked to be given credit. The band didn't even do that so the creator won a hefty lawsuit.
@ Given how popular the song is, the backdate of royalties would suffice! Let's also remember he sued them in the late 90's, way back when money was worth more.
The "Star Dust" track was actually inspired by "Electronic Ensemble - It happened then" (you can hear it if you listen closely). I guess David Whittaker's 8-bit SID interpretation was different enough to avoid any legal issues
I know David Whittaker sued Zombie Nation, but I am not completely aware about this, but the one game in this game called 99 Red Balloons uses the same beat as the song...I dont know if Nena sued Whittaker or if he got permission. If he didnt, it would be poetic justice.
Anyone know if there's a sort of "de-make" of the Kernkraft 400 song that has the drum and bass and cymbals and all that but with with this sawtooth melody instead of the synthesized melody that's in the song? The sawtooth wave just gives me way more satisfaction.
@BurningRambo THIS is the original, Zombie Nation covered their song Kernkraft 400 from this one. This game is from 1984 the song you think of is from 1999... So dont ever say again that Zombie Nation has the original... This song was composed by David Whittaker!!! Zombie Nation are the thieves here...
Came here to listen to Kernkraft 400. Was not disappointed.
XD me
This is the better version
@@nathan7061 No
@@nathan7061 the classic version
I wonder if the composer of this song thought he was creating the greatest sports songs of all time without knowing it
David Whitaker knows.
Well he sued the creator of kerncraft
@@mr.brenman2132 ruclips.net/video/Hgf82hF3qj8/видео.html
@@denis_26 He should be sued himself ruclips.net/video/Hgf82hF3qj8/видео.html
@@denis_26 And got a hefty sum and credits for it.
More time has passed between the song coming out and now than between the song and the game it sampled.
Getting old...
I genuinely never knew Kernkraft 400 was based on an already existing melody. So cool!
Kernkraft 400 is the band, not the song.
@@dboozer4 lol I always screw that up. Thank you for the correction!
@@dboozer4 Oh yeah and Zombie Nation was of course the name of the song. Not Kernkraft 400
Of course the band isn’t called Kernkraft 400. That would be such a stupid name for a band in German 😂
Yeee... It is... And there was a big lawsuit about it... XD
In 1999 I was in college and constantly wondering why nobody did a remix of the Lazy Jones soundtrack, and I was so happy that Zombie Nation suddenly appeared and became so popular; it's like they read my mind.
Well, Zombie Nation stole the song from David Whittaker.
I wonder how Zombie Nation broke into Whittaker's home in order to steal this song.
@@martinDoesTrash It's no secret Zombie Nation enjoyed this little tune from the game. Most tunes in the game are licensed covers, but some are original songs by David Whittaker, including this tune. So ZN called David Whittaker, told him they really like the song, that they wanted to remix it or whatever and that they like to buy it. They didn't offer much but instead let Whittaker know he'd definitely lose if he take the case to court. So now the remix is played around the world, Zombie Nation has a major hit in their hands and no one knows about David Whittaker. OR Zombie Nation broke in to his home and stole the song in the middle of the night. ...
I prefer the second theory!
no lol. ZN copied it plain and simple. David heard it and called ZN, he said he wanted about 8000 deutsche marks (3-4000 euros) or he would sue them. They agreed and it was settled. So yea ZN "stole" a tune from a video game and called their own.
It took me 22 seconds to realise that Zombie nation was a remix of this.
+Neddyfram ™ Zombie Nation did the Remix... Kernkraft 400 is the actual remix of this xD
+DÆRØ is correct. www.discogs.com/Zombie-Nation-Kernkraft-400/master/129178
Mind will be blown when you realise Lazy Jones was based on It Happened Then by Electronic Ensemble ^^
and DJ Gius did the best know remix
I remember playing the game back then! And now I know why something sounded familiar when listening to the remix by Zombie Nation. The scheme behind all things is now clearer. :D
being an 80s kid & stumbling across this banger
This track needs more recognition!
The Zombie Nation sample is good for sure, but I'm even more intrigued by the first 21 seconds. Would make a fantastic sample too. Very impressive what they managed to create within the 8-bit limitations.
It's a bit counter-intuitive really. A lot of the classic and widely-recognized videogame themes came from the '80s and '90s, the reason being that there were many limitations like you said, so they had to make whatever they had work. Hence, you'd hear lots more memorable melodies from that era. Modern videogame music has more instruments to work with so they may often sound impressive but they just don't hit that sweet spot you'd see with older games.
@@BiggusNickus I'll never consider orchestral tracks in games true video game music.
Marble Madness is and always will be the best.
@@SpecialEDyMarble Madness is great but my favorite was The Master of Magic theme by Rob Hubbard.
simcity 3000 and 4 is decently complex but pretty good@@BiggusNickus
Thank you Zombie Nation for making a great use of this amazing melody ❤❤❤
Guy that composed this had no idea stadiums across the United States would be chanting this melody for decades to come. Absolute madlad.
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What an absolute banger
I can almost hear the chanting from sports stadiums all across the world
Just reading some comments.
Yes, ZN paid for the rights to use the tune...
AFTER he was threatened with court action by David Whittaker.
David was happy enough for it to be used, but not without attribution. I like the tune, instantly recognising its origin the first time I heard it, but he really did steal it and was caught out so had to pay.
Colin Jones But the tune was from Electronic Ensemble - It Happened Then
This Name Was Available It's much softer in that, hardly recognisable. This was, however, an excellent find, I'm always on the lookout for what these old chiptunes were based on :D
Colin Jones The last note arrives slightly later on the original but it is clearly and irrefutably the source material.
Oh definitely, I had to listen twice to pick it out, but there is no doubt :)
+This Name Was Available The difference between Kernkraft 400 and Stardust is like the difference between Sam Smith's "Stay With Me" and Tom Petty's "I Won't Back Down", i.e. they're the exact same thing melodically.
The difference between Stardust and Electronic Ensemble's "It Happened Then" is like the difference between Robin Thicke's "Blurred Lines" and Marvin Gaye's "Got to Give It Up": The latter clearly influenced the former in a big way, but it's not plagiarism, even if a court says so.
Ah, so this is where it all began. Time-travel is nice
You're still one step away. The very original is 'It Happened Then' by Electronic Ensemble from 1980
Who'd have thought that this would go on to be the greatest song of all time
Ah, that game and that tune really bring back memories :')
at first i was like "i can see how they sound similar but idk about it being outright stolen"
then i was like "O LAWD"
I'm gonna strut my way into every room I enter like that while playing Kernkraft 400 from now on
Absolute Masterpiece of a Melody.
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OMG...this is the most amazing find ever. The original Kernkraft 400.
nope, ruclips.net/video/Hgf82hF3qj8/видео.html
Wait, has anyone remixed 0:00 - 0:22?
Something tells me it could be a smash hit.
DoomKid it is now
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This one is pretty good.
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It amazes me on how many other songs out there have been resampled in it’s own song.
It was ripped from Electronic Ensemble track called It Happened Then. Changed two notes and called it a new...
Thank you!!! That song is great! I didn't know about it.
...So David Whittaker is in-fact one of the top DJ’s of all-times, essentially?
Producer, not dj but yeah
Well, go and look out for 'It Happened Then' by Electronic Ensemble from 1980
@@zorrothebug OMG! I’m still trying to piece my mind back together… From Electric Ensemble, to Lazy Jones, ending up with Kernkraft 400 - Everything’s a copy of a copy of a copy…
One of my favourite games on the c64
I remember the first time I heard this tune... they used to play it every time a goal was scored in 8-bit hockey back in the day.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
It happened then! It happened then. Why don't it happen then to me?
Wow breezed right over the Lazy Jones song that ended up becoming the biggest sports anthem ever. Damn really wish you would hav mentioned it
This song is most notable for being sampled in “Kernkraft 400” by Zombie Nation in 1999.
zombie nation is the song and kernkraft 400 is the band
@@whatthegriddlesticksimagine being so wrong and confident at the same time 💀
The first part, before the mini-game is actually more addictive
I was always wanting to see a techno remake of the Lazy Jones soundtrack, and was thrilled when it finally happened. Frankly any of those tunes could be made into something just as popular as Zombie Nation.
Nice to meet you Original Zombie Nation ;)
Go have a look for 'It Happened Then' by Electronic Ensemble from 1980
Am I the only one who thinks that this original version sounds way more impactfull and overall on a higher level than the zombie nation remix?
the original ruclips.net/video/Hgf82hF3qj8/видео.html
There be a serious gamer out there, so when zombie nation came out they just knew the song
I didn't even knew it from Zombie Nation, but when Topic, A7S - Kernkraft 400 (A Better Day) came out I instantly thought in my head "I know this tune..." I then was pointed to Zombie Nation, but took me years to find out I knew it from Lazy Jones.
Which then had me find out the very origin is from 'It Happened Then' by Electronic Ensemble from 1980.
@@zorrothebugi never even heard of this game before
Woah-oh-oh-OH-oh, woah-oh-oh-OH-OH-OH-oh-Oh, woah-OH, WOAH-oh.
Wow the true true original mix
re-mix. go find 'It Happened Then' by Electronic Ensemble from 1980
BOSTON BRUINS!!
So this is why Kernkraft 400 sound so familiar to me....
Man this goes hard, someone should make it into a real song.
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Steeds zo veel fascinatie gehad voor dit lied, blijkt nu dat deze sound al bijna 2 decennia daarvoor reeds bestond....
Hahaha mooi hè ;-)
I like this better, honestly.
Thumps up if you played the game before you knew that Zombie Nation made a remix of that song.
So cool they put kernkraft into a c64 game
Oh whoa oh uh oh. Oh whoa oh uh ah oh uh oh, uh whoa uh oh!! :-D
Who knew a chiptune track would become a sports chant? Sweetness!
RUclips comments never change
Thumbs up if Zombie Nation brought you here
PlatinumEagleStudio's a comment who said this brought me here
Yah 'pejnismiggle' told me about it
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I'm here from the comment as well...
My life is a lie.
Immer wieder Austria Wien!
Forza Viola!
Ohohoh ohohoh ohoh oh
hahah thats crazy thank you for posting this
I think it's a bit unfair to say that when most of the Lazy Jones soundtrack is covers of other songs.
Kernkraft 400 stole this...damn
***** It's not stealing if you buy it.
Lorenzo Genito Purchased the rights ? YEAH SURE !!!
Was that before or after publishing it ?
Look at the "similiar cases" paragraph in this article:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timbaland_plagiarism_controversy
Lorenzo Genito He haven't purchased anything. He payed a lot of money after David Whittaker sued him, to avoid legal fees. Lot of djs and producers(and many serious composers too) think they can rip off music from everyone...
***** Ahahahahah. Are you serious? ahahahahahah German laws about copyright doesn't allow that at all!!! To cover a Song and recording it you need to ask permissions to the original label anyway and register the new song as cover. Kernkraft registered his music as an his original piece...
Kernkraft 400 is the name of the tune, Zombie Nation is the producer.
AC Milan goaltune❤️🖤❤️🖤
Ore e ore davanti a questo videogioco! E poi il tipo, IDENTICO al mio compagno di classe, che di pulizia personale era a zero!
This sounds better than Zombie Nation and Grendel remixes :D!
Jethro Paris No. But it's just my opinion!
Ye I kinda like this more
GRENDEL?
“Ah, you were by my side all along. My true mentor, my guiding moonlight.”
Kernkraft made an excellent sample out of this in my opinion.
it wasn't sampled.
The original sounds much better in my opinion
LMAO Kernkraft 400 - I had no idea.
Zombie nation made the first vgm
i think i like the original better than the remix
OMG I CAN FEEL MY CHILDHOOD IN MEE!!
do you still feel it?
Makes me think about how that Hot Buttered Popcorn song is from the 70's
Just so everyone knows, Kernkraft 400 used this song WITH PERMISSION. The creator of this game only asked to be given credit.
The band didn't even do that so the creator won a hefty lawsuit.
wow ive never known this!! zombie nation sampled from it!
Zombie... zombie.. zombie nation! Y'know, this song is a perfect soundtrack for Terraria
God - I loved that Game!
It's called "having no ideas of their own" and "conveniently keeping quiet what source their influence came from".
in classical music it's called a quotation
in hip hop it's called sampling
in vaporwave it's called vaporwave
@@heartache5742 What has that to do with original ideas?
@@McLarenMercedes nobody is original. let people make music they want to make
Viele Stunden habe ich das gedaddelt.
Oh oh oh oh oh! Ohohohohohohohoh! Oh oh! Oh oh!
And was then sued for a few thousand by David Whittaker.
@ Given how popular the song is, the backdate of royalties would suffice! Let's also remember he sued them in the late 90's, way back when money was worth more.
@@CircuitBird it wasn't worth THAT much more, zoomer.
@@33LB ...except I was born way before the zoomer generation began. Your insult is void.
Lazy Nation
who would have known the commodore would inspire human chanting at gathering for decades
The "Star Dust" track was actually inspired by "Electronic Ensemble - It happened then" (you can hear it if you listen closely).
I guess David Whittaker's 8-bit SID interpretation was different enough to avoid any legal issues
Haha! The beginning of the end was Lazy Jones!
Now this
is epic
0:23 this beat would be a good inspiration for a hit...ohh, wait !...already was done!
Rumour has it there is a parody call kenkraft 400
Wow! Too damn hard!
A video game about a dude playing video games ❤
this brought me to KERNKRAFT 400
On this edition of TIL 😩
I know David Whittaker sued Zombie Nation, but I am not completely aware about this, but the one game in this game called 99 Red Balloons uses the same beat as the song...I dont know if Nena sued Whittaker or if he got permission. If he didnt, it would be poetic justice.
Wasn't it Luftballons?
So this is where Darude got the sample for "Sandstorm" from. Mind blown....
Didn't She Bangs by Ricky Martin use a similar chant (to the melody of this) near the end?
Quite interesting! Reminds me a little of Sweet Dreams (are made of this) intro.
Definitely a very similar bassline
same pwm synth sound
I’ve never played this game, did people like it? Does it still hold up?
Shit slaps
Bergeron...to MARCHAND...HE SCORES! BRUINS 1, MAPLE LEAFS 0
Anyone know if there's a sort of "de-make" of the Kernkraft 400 song that has the drum and bass and cymbals and all that but with with this sawtooth melody instead of the synthesized melody that's in the song? The sawtooth wave just gives me way more satisfaction.
i was today years old when i found that zombie nation took the melody from this game.
this vid just got me 50$!!! nobody believed me when i said zombie nation stole that song 'kernkraft 400!'
OOOOHOOOOHHOOOOOHOOOH
OOOOOHOOOOOHOOOOOOHOOOOOOOH
Shame this sone will always be the “one of the hockey goals” song, also thanks Vargskelethor Joel for showing me this
GO BRUINS GO!!!
Zombie [boom, boom], Zombie [boom, boom], Zombie Nation!
@BurningRambo
THIS is the original, Zombie Nation covered their song Kernkraft 400 from this one. This game is from 1984 the song you think of is from 1999... So dont ever say again that Zombie Nation has the original... This song was composed by David Whittaker!!!
Zombie Nation are the thieves here...
Section 8!
ZOMBIE NATION
Fun Fact: This is the Boston Bruins' Goal Song
Hell yeah
Long live underground house