Hi Abbie, I have camped for nearly 50 night on 5 National Trails using the Enam, but only suffered with condensation if I pitched in longish grass. I do have a footprint. I keep the inner door open and leave the outer zip around 10cm opened.i don’t cook inside the tent. I love this tent. I can pitch it in 4 mins, it’s lightweight and it held up on what seemed, near hurricane winds in February on my Ridgeway trail. I paid £450 for the tent from Taunton Leisure during a sales promotion.
I have a similar tent, the Terra Nova laser and it also has bad condensations issue's. Recently brought a cheap Chinese tent called a Lanshan 1. A trecking pole tent. Less than £100 and weighs much less than any of these more expensive tents even with it's footprint. I used it on my recent hike on the Wainwright Coast to Coast. It handled all conditions like a boss. Minimal condensation, Plenty of space for a sub 6ft person, Good vestibule, very stable in windy conditions. I don't know how Hilleberg can justify their prices. Adventures are for everyone but not everyone can afford Hilleberg prices. Thanks for the honest review Abbie. Take care Sandy
I have Lanshan 2. Brilliant tent. Last 2 years served me well in 3 different countries, mainly UK. It won’t survive what Hilleberg can, but I am not using my tent on Alaskan trails, so Lanshan2 suits me.
I have that tent as well. I have been using it only this year so my opinion on it is preliminary. But I will keep using it for a while. I agree with the verdict on condensation. Got it before the lanshan tents were as known. I have dd tarps tarptent. Seems to be very good for a single wall tent, except for the crappy zipper design. Ants can get trough my zipper. Weightwise it does approach ul doublewall designs as most of the weight is in pegs or the trekking poles. I have got the impression the dd tarptent might handle condensation better than the photon perhaps due to better vents and beign more openish in the vestibule. Not totally sure. I really like the terra nova / wild country zephyros 2 tent. Reasonably priced for something not from a chinese website. It handles condensation very good for one person. As good as one can expect a tent like to handle it. I remember they increased the ventilation at some point and I guess I have the newer one. From that brand I consider the helm as someone recommended that. I am less impressed with the laser compared to the zephyros 1 or 2. If they get the weight down I am buying. I consider the 3f and others as well
Wiltshire Man- Sorry Sandy, I disagree with your Hilleberg comment. I am not a Hilleberg fanatic but as you know I do have a few Hilleberg tents, Anjan, Akto and Soulo. Each tent is sown by a single seamstress using top notch materials and followed up with a vigorous quality control process. Each tent has the makers name sown into it and takes ownership of their workmanship. Shocked you don’t think a think a hand built high quality item that should last many years if not a lifetime is not worth it 😕 Different stokes for different folks. I would rather have one high quality tent than several cheeper items. You can only use one tent at a time! And yes, I have 3. Maybe I am a snob!!! I still love you WW 😉
People often forget that Hilleberg does nothing but tents, they have a lifetime warranty, lifetime spare parts to buy, most tent manufactorer nowdays make a tent and stop selling parts after few years. You can buy parts for your 20 year old akto at the hilleberg site.
Abbie, There is nothing I can tell you that you probably don’t already know. However I believe this model is pronounced E-Nan. The footprint would massively improve the damp/wet issue but only if you don’t leave the tent fully open. Most people zip the whole thing up and even close of the vented ends then the tent has no airflow at all and as a non breathable tent it is bound to get soaked. I suspect having the tent fully open, bedroom door too is that you are letting dew into the tent, especially this time of year. I have used the Enan too and on warm nights I would keep the outer door open but close the mesh door as this did stop the dew getting into the inner/bedroom. A footprint is little over 200g and keeps out the damp wet ground as well as protecting the floor of the inner. You must allow airflow and on my Akto both end zips are permanently half open even in poor weather. The Akto’s door has a vent (again for airflow) but love how you see this as a kinda window. I rarely get a damp tent even on the wettest of days. Keep up the good work. ATB Ant 👍🏻😉
I have the hubba hubba nx 2 person, love it plenty of vents so no condensation, used it in high wind ,alpine rain storms ,etc its never let me down and i feel so confident when it ,after watching this i am so glad a bought it now
I got an Enan and although I only used it 8 nights in the Abisko/Keb-Area I don't share your problems with condensation. I always put the tent up with the feet towards the wind and that contributes to a constant flow through the tent wich helped even during the rainy nights on that trip. With that said, all tents suffer from condensation in some conditions. If it is a lot of moisture in the air and no wind, you will have some condensation in any tent including the Enan. Overall I think the Enan is a really good tent but it is a bit cramped.
@@melloncollie5401 I would say so! A lot of people use Enan in the Swedish mountains and I have not heard of anyone having any issues. I unfortunately sold my Enan when I bought a Niak so I don't have it anymore, It was a really good tent and I miss it so I try not to think about it too often!
I often have some on the inside of the fly. Nothing to worry about. And the inner tent was allways dry. I'm glad I went for the Enan instead of the Akto.
Thanks for another honest review, although reviewing a tent seems to really irk people like few other things. Bought an akto after seeing, amongst others, your review. Still happy with it although I have now got a laser competition 1 as a lighter 3 season option. Very happy with that, but much more fragile than the akto. People banging on about the price tag are, hopefully, unaware that Hillebergs are hand finished in Estonia with the name of the person who finished it on a tag inside the tent and that the outer material is second to none. With the correct care the tent should see many years of use, in the harshest conditions.
My Akto doesn't have the door upper rain hood , because it's s pre-2000 model. I use an 'original space blanket' as a footprint (reflective side up) and it helps .
I'm going for a new Akto, saving hard and can't wait to have it. Yes they are expensive but I know it is very well made and will last me a long time. Nothing wrong with buying cheaper tents at all but I have set my sights on a Hilleberg now. Happy camping folks. :)
Hi Abby I have the Soulo and it far better for condensation problems. I've been camping with a mate with a akto where his tent was soaked and mine was dry. Yes it is heavier and way stronger. I wouldn't swap it for anything else.
I have many Hilleberg tents Abbie, including the Enan and Akto and I've never had condensation problems. The footprint is only 200grams so I always use one and it makes all the difference. I never cook or boil water in the vestibule as it is a sure way to cause condensation which becomes apparent in the night and I always sleep with the inner and outer zip open a couple of inches. I probably have the lighter version than the one you discuss here. They made an earlier one which has 600 Kerlon which is the one I was able to source in preference to the new 1000 Kerlon and heavier version which you seemingly have. Try the footprint, it's worth a bit more weight. I respect what you are doing Abbie as I've just checked out your website and I agree you are awesome. Best wishes and never stop the adventures.
Hello Abbie. I got an Enan this spring and although I only used it 7 nights this summer in different conditions in northern Norway, I never had problems with condensation...maybe I’m just lucky. Have an Nallo gt 2 for arctic winter nights, both great tents. Paid £440 for the Enan during a sales promotion, great videos by the way🙂👍🏻
I had an Enan not so long ago and I was soaked on the first nights use, I got rid of it shortly after that. I wanted to try it as I had an Akto years ago which I didn't get on with due to the design of the inner and the Enan has a far far better inner. The footprint makes very little difference IME, I mainly use single skin tarp style tents and have never woken up soaked or with any condensation that gave me concern on my quilt or bag. Every shelter will suffer from condensation but I was not putting up with the amount in the Enan. Hillibergs are great strong tents but they are expensive and heavy. There are far far lighter options with more space that cost a lot less out there. ATB, Dave
I use the Soulo red label with a groundsheet year-round all over Europe in all seasons. Never had problems. The angles of the wall are so steep that if there is a bit of condensation, it goes directly to the ground. It won't even reach the groundsheet since there is a gap. Best tent, hands down. Compared to the Akto and Enan, you can even stay a day inside the tent since it is much roomier
If you want that shape of tent and for it to be light weight with brilliant ventilation then just get a wild country zephros 1 Or the terra nova laser photon 1 of the terra nova laser competition 1. Have owned and used all these before and had very little to no condensation. That is because of the brilliant new design with vents at both ends of the tent and the tent inner. And they are a fraction of the price.
Having an Enan too, I can confirm the condensation issue, even though I do use a footprint. I ran a series of test nights, all with little wind. Every night I did not sleep well due to cold feet because the condensation got in the foot box of my sleeping bag. I use a comfy Thermarest NeoAir Xlite with a fluffy down sleeping bag, which is a bulky set-up. So it is likely to touch the inner tent, or worse make the inner touch the outer. Not only the outer fly suffers from condensation, even the inner tent can get moist on the inside. This did surprise me with the all mesh door. The sleeping bag is a Western Mountaineering from the Extreme Light series, and the outer fabric easily absorbs moisture. The next experiment will use a plastic bag over the foot end of the sleeping bag (and mattress, in order to keep it in position). I also used the tent with the inner removed completely. This creates much more room, so you are unlikely to touch the outer tent. Still I slept bad, with cold feet due to a moist sleeping bag. Why, I don't know yet. Plus you are no longer protected against insects. About the touching of the inner and outer tent: it helps when the tent is pitched really taut. However, the nylon Kerlon fabric elongates when wet. So it is really usefull to use strong camping elastics at the two longitudinal guy lines. Originally, these guy lines form a loop: they pull at both ends of the small vertical poles. The bottom end is not important, it is the upper end that has to be at serious tension. So I did split these guy line in two, and only the upper part (the part at an angle) has the elastic. This modification works well. It also eliminates the risk of tearing the outer tent fabric when drying and over-tensioning due to shrinking. We experienced this with a Nallo 2GT, ripping cross-wise above the ventilation at the back. OK, it was an old tent, which had taken a lot of UV, but still. One other annoying issue is the door. In the morning, with the wet outer fly, there is just no way how to open the door without getting wet. I guess the only option is to wipe it dry before you open the door. All in all, it is a cumbersome experience. I want it to work, as I need its small pack size.
Which direction do you pitch it to the wind? It seems that some people have a condensation issue and others not so and it is hard to understand what the difference is. I've spent two nights in mine so far. Night one was very windy (40 mph) and relatively warm (14 C) and the fly was bone dry. Second night was less windy (20-30 mph) and sheltered and cooler (10 C) and I got only the slightest sheen of condensation. I was aware of the potential issue, so I've been using a clothes peg to keep the door vent open at the top and either I respire less water (possible) or this works.
Summer of 2021 I used the Enan at the Colle Sommeiller in Italy, camping near the Rifugio Scarfiotti. Late in the evening it started to rain heavily, so hard that I used ear plugs to cope with the noise. This lasted around one hour, enough to cause the rain to flood the camp site. The Enan coped with this surprisingly well! OK, the inner is really small, so storing all the gear inside the inner isn't easy, but the bathtub floor kept the inner competely dry. It made me think about using a footprint though. The extra fabric just meant more cleaning afterwards, as everything was muddy. Two conclusions: the Enan is more capable than expected (OK, I use a 10 mm pole from a Nammatj 2) and pick the camping spot with more care to avoid floodings.
Its a crazy price for a 3 season shelter! I have the Akto which I hardly use due to the condinsation issues. I favour the SMD Gatewood which is only £130 and has worked well in heavy rain and wind on Dartmoor. With the Gatewood and serinity net it is only around 550grams, Abbie. Worth considering if you're trying to shred the weight, or an MLD duo mid?? I know 2 people who bought the Enan and sold it after one use as they got soaked in it.
Crazy is paying 1000€ for a true 3 season tent. The Enan can handle everything beside snow. I just came back from a two-days hike. It works fine, even at -11°C. I just slept a total of 6 nights in it and I never woke up wet. Not even after a foggy autumn night. I was afraid of condensation because of Abbys videos but there wasn't more condensation than in any other tent I've used so far.
A good, much cheaper alternative is the Vango F10 Helium UL 1 ( 1person) or UL 2 (2 person) tents. These are Vango's mountain tents. The UL2 trail weight is around 1.2kg or 1.4kg if you carry it all. The designi s very similar to the Hiiliberg and retails around £185 - £200.
I must be the luckiest person to own an Akto, condensation has never been an issue. Though I do hear so many complaints. On another note don't sleep with the door open on Dartmoor at the moment. Tents are being attacked by foxes. I woke to find one on me the other night, which then promptly took a nip at my foot.
You going on about foxes and Sandy going on about his coast to coast walk... 😜 I am a tad shocked that you don’t get condensations as you have no footprint and you do go on some silly wet camps with me. That said you are sensible and let the tent breath. Too many people zip the whole thing up!
Thankyou so much for such an honest and objective review (as always). Could I just ask how you find the tent copes in wet ground in the rain, with the low bath tub and whether you find it too breezy and cold with the all mesh door! Many thanks
HUGE TRICK - #1 TIP If you want to easily gain access to either of the flaps that cover/uncover the ventilation ends, simply disconnect 2 toggles that connect the inner to the outer ROOF, then easily reach over to open/close the flap, easy peasy. No one not even Hilleberg mentions/shows this TRICK Warm Regards from Reno, Nevada
Typical dank and humid UK conditions, in northern hills challenging at times to reduce condensation build up. Where you pitch of course is a factor, tents such as Hilleberg, other than the Niak, the fly is firmly down at ground level, trapping moisture. I had an Akto, as good as this tent is, I had encountered the full condensation experience when backpacking in Scotland. Now use tents by Tarptent with good venting systems, fly venting much more innovative and partial upper inner door mesh through venting between double porches. Since using a Scarp 1, I have never had a problem with a wet sleeping bag.
Well. Firstly thank you for your review. I have to say I'm shocked regarding the condensation problem on this enan review. I read a review into the Enan from a very well respected independent reviewer who said that that had been really thought through by HB and alot of the condensation issues from the akto had been dealt with. I had been eager to buy the Enan but now I'm not so sure. Could I ask if after more years of use have seen the same condensation issues or have you found a way to improve the situation? I'm left wondering do I really want to spend that much money on a tent when in the morning everything is soaked due to condensation. I'm thinking I might look at the cheaper MSR hubba solo for review comparison? Any advice on how you feel about the enan now? And was the akto as bad for condensation? Thanks
Great review Abbie, I looked at the Enan but got a Niak instead, I absolutely love it with loads of space and only 1.70kg. Maybe you should see if you can get your hands on one of those to try next.
I have read of someone returning their Niak because it is too short for them: the ends slope a lot so that with a thick pad the length is not as much as an Akto (which has vertical ends).
@@petergilbert72 A year on I’ve just seen your comment but that’s so obviously incorrect. I own one and I’m six foot tall and it’s fine but you can look at the dimensions on Hilleberg site. With regard to it sloping, I’m not sure what you mean as it’s a symmetrical dome unlike the Akto and Soulo.
@@BTurner. I think the person who returned it was several inches taller. The Hilleberg site only gives dimensions at ground level. If you’ve got a thick sleeping pad plus a pillow and a head on top (!) the effective length is at a height perhaps 30cm above ground level. If the ends slope in (as with dome tents) the useful length is reduced. The Akto ends slope outwards at the top so the effective length at that height is longer than the dimensions at ground level and quoted in the Hilleberg site. Does that make sense? Hilleberg do a video on choosing a tent for tall people and Tom Heaney Adventure makes the same point in his comparison videos.
Thank you for being honest been a active camper myself from my discovery there is no perfect tent. I have used a four season, a set of marmot, canvas tarp, cheap tarps, military rain poncho, snugpak and some good old fashion dirt napping with out even a sleeping bag this works best with alcohol. After I broke a pole on my snugpak I had some new ones custom made for me. They were pre bent and this made set up so much better even did the same for a eureka solitaire. Your condesation can be battle with using the wind in your favor try setting up lying parallel with the wind and open the door so the breeze comes through. Remember to watch the wind does often change one hundred and eighty degrees when the sun goes down.
You can buy these at the moment for just over £500 in the UK through certain retailers but the condensation is a deal breaker for me. Thanks for your honest review! Akto for me I think. 👍
HI Abbie, I think condensation is a common problem with light weight tents, lets face it essentially they are a waterproof plastic bag! I have been using Vangos F10 Helium UL 2 tent for trail walking. It is half the price of the Enan but is a little heavier. What I like about it is, it is a two man tent so there is plenty of space for me and it has two doors either side, so it is possible to create a through air flow at night which helps with the condensation problem. Clive
I’ve picked a Vaude tent as three season not just because it was cheaper , but for me , one of the main reasons is in my opinion they are the most ethical and eco based companies currently selling camping/hiking equipment even their clothing is ethically and sustainably sourced.
I know an Enan user who finds that compared to his Akto it's much noisier in the wind. They have used the lightest possible fabric, and the large panels stretch and flap.
Hilleberg makes good winter tents from what I hear. This problem with condensation is the lack of mesh. That inner tent needs to be partial mesh at least, in real hot and humid conditions, full mesh is the way to go. Apex vent would be good
Bit too expensive for me, think I'll stick with my Lanshan 2, the colour is black, weighs about 1kg and uses 2 walking poles, it is around £100 and it has tons of room. Good review of the tent, nice one. 👍👍👍
Lanshans are giant killers great tents at great price people poo poo them but best 3 season one man tent i have ever used ( and i have used a ton of tents from nearly every maker)
Jeah..I was just wondering the mindset of this place. Crying over some water. They should carry an aggregat with a heater in their backpack and I bet the problem of condensation ends immediately.
As a seasoned long distance hiker' would be interested in your view on these new Dyneema fabric tents that are becoming popular with the ultra-light crowd ? ..With them being easy erected with 2 trekking poles, and the tent body itself weighing next-to-nothing, along with the fabric purported to be extra durable - seems a step forward in tent evolution..
GingerActive 87 Just spent a month camping in the Lake District with a Helm 1 Superb tent Held up to very heavy rains and was bone dry 1.7 kg so a reasonable weight There is condensation but the top of the inner is mesh and there is such a gap space between the inner and outer that it is not an issue of getting wet A wipe down takes care of it
Hello! Thank you for your review :) Could you give as an example a tent which is better about condensation, from your experience. And which tent that you've used has the best ventilation?
Hi i myself use the Soulo RL with a groundsheet since a Year now in Snow, Sandy beaches in Italy, France, corse, Germany, forests, on top of Switzerlands biggest mountains. Never had any condensation problems so far. If you use it in forests there is a bit condensation on the outer tent layer, but not so much that it forms a drop. Anyhow, thats my experience so far and it some circumstances even a flat tarp can have it.
I don't own a hill berg enan but I know they sell a mesh inner which can be replaced with th inner that comes with the tent. Would be interesting to see how this performs ie. condensation
Great review Abbie. I was concidering Enan but went for an Akto this spring. I've not had problem with condensation yet, even in rain. But i've not pitched the Akto on green grass yet only on grey moss and dry forest soil. Both, vents fully open and inner tent closed but with midget/mosquito window open, oeter tent door closed with a 20cm gap open on top. I have not cooked inside the tent. No footprint for the same reasons as You. On the Allak i have a footprint though since i'm often not concerned about weight when using that. Better vents on the Allakt though with it's different design, but on the otherhand on the far heavy side for solo hiking. What do you dry out your condensation with? i took a small fibre towel with me in case. Whats your tip about that?
...about the price tag, It's a well made tent and last for generations mostly for normal use, but still on the pricey side. Would imagine that this was required when Hilleberg had a lower production volume, but today i could imagine that the volume is higher.
@@Braapncamp Skaling effect doesn't kick in as long as one single person makes one single tent. The tents are worth the price, that's not the question. But do you need a Hilleberg? It's your money.
@@kobold90 since i allteady have two Hillebergs i allready made that descision without doubt. Sounds reasonable about the scale not effecting though, except regarding materials and office headcounts maybe.
Even tarp has condensation "problem". Unfortunately I have not used my Enan so much, but I had one night without condensation - it was very light wind , but tent was staying in the right way - ventilation in front of the wind. This way wind blows thru and brings out moisture. It seems that it is in thend to talk about condensation. Does one knows some some good tent, which doesn't has "condensation" problem?
Morning hope you are well all good here been out on various bits of the pennine way , the best and most lightweight tent is a bothy just kidding tenting and sleeping on the floor is hard no matter what keep your chin up hun
Check out the Robens starlight 1 , amazing venting options good quality loads of features, down sides the pack ability, upside its 125quid with more features than the Enan and in a storm would give a hillerberg a run for its money! Just to say I love hillerberg they’re awesome but scary expensive
You're selling the Kerlon 1000 way short. You make it sound weak and fragile. It is Hilleberg's least tough material but it is far more durable and tear resistant than pretty much any of the silnylon/silpoly tents out there. There is almost no circumstance that this could get shredded to pieces. Unless maybe you took a knife to it and went Psycho on it.
Hmm, the thing with the condensation is one of the main reasons why I was thinking long about buying it or not and I decided not to buy, even because I already have with the Akto a tent suchlike the Enan only with the differenz in weight. I guess also because you can not open up the Head- and footendparts of the tent (Mesh down) it has this condensation problems. One of the most important things that I already miss at tents from Hilleberg is the two verstibul version of such a tent. Have a good day and hike on
Ah, just in case you don`t already have the information about a new upcoming tent from hilleberg for spring next year. Because I have seen your Hilleberg Enan - Akto comparison video I remembered that even because in your last videos you were quite often out there in hot sun and you mentioned about that it`s now too hot for beeing inside of the tents. But before giving you two links for possible more airy alternatives I must request you not to make me responsible because I have laid you such an pricy egg into your nest. 😳😁 ruclips.net/video/iowngkp3C2w/видео.html The tent I am actually flirting with is: lightheartgear.com/collections/tents/products/lightheart-duo-tent It`s a little bit lighter than the Enan tent, has two vestibules to open in good weather conditions. When it rains without heavy wind you could also fit the air circulation for your needs. And don`t be confused about the colours. Beside the red they also have steel blue and other colours. I guess the most interesting one to both of us would be simply the camouflage one`s right? I also don`t like it so much when my tent looks like a beacon.🤣 Greets from Germany
Seemed to me you struggled to find ' positives ' about this tent , but at least it was a sunny day and you seemed happy =-) , just a quick question from someone who knows nothing lol , What's a " Footprint " that was mentioned you could get for the tent?
I am using £80 Lanshan 2 tent from aliexpress. I am using it in 🇬🇧. Dartmoor, Snowdonis etc. It is amazing tent for the price. No condensation issues at all. For colder weather you can buy different inner tent with less mesh. Weight only 1.3kg. I will recommend it all day long.
NickOnDartmoor Mine is still fine. In Dartmoor my tent handled 40 miles/h wind, no problem. I wouldn’t take it for more or if I have always weather like this. But who has 40miles/h wind everyday, in UK?
Thank for the review. Don't know if you realise that you've uploaded at 60fps, you only need to use 24fps for this kind of video, 24fps will save you a ton of disk space and be smoother to edit.
Thanks for this. Thats because I shoot 60fps on my GoPro. I tried the 24fps but have been having endless issues with my go pros (7) regardless of what I shoot in, so just default with the 60!!
@@AbbieBarnesWILD Gopros can be a nightmare although my 7 black seems ok so far. Would def look into getting 24fps working as many of your viewers won't be able to view at 60fps and it may step down to the 480p version.
I agree with the footprint, can’t see the point in them. If the tent floor isn’t robust enough, then the manufacturer should beef that up rather than selling footprints!!
Get a lead pencil. Carrying a half or 3rd of a capenters pemcil is good, to lubricate Zippers, of any king steel alloy plastic thick YKK types. Just run pencil along zip and it wont stick.
Seems funny to me that a lot of people seem to be having a pop at Abbie for spending that much on a tent. I doubt very much that many of us spend as much time in the tent as Abbie. Camping is obviously a big part of her life and hilleberg still make some of the best tents in the world. Also I spent 1000 pounds on my tent but only 900 on my car I feel it’s a matter of priorities.
Looking for advice on improving the pitch of my Hilleberg Enan. I use my Hilleberg Enan when I am planning on pitching above the tree line and expecting foul weather such as high winds and significant rain. I am hoping someone might be able to provide some advice on reducing the outer fabric from flapping excessively.
I’ve seen blogs by others who fit four extra guys (two either side of the triangular ends). With these fitted the tent looks really tight. These extra guys are at 45 degrees.
@@petergilbert72 thanks Peter. I recently added the guys, it was easy as there is already a guy attachment points where you point out.I have a theory that th surface both outer and inner skin of the tent is acting like a wing and generating high low pressure flux as the wind both through and over the tent. Next time out I plan to close the windward vent and see if I can get the wind to work in my favor and generate lift pulling the fabric out and making it flap less.
@@martinclennon4640 interesting; that makes sense, lower pressure where the air is moving faster through a constrained space. What I find odd is that Hilleberg isn’t advising how to get the best out of their tents in different circumstances. It all seems a bit hit or miss, with bits of anecdotes about what works. Anyway, maybe there’s a result!
@@petergilbert72 I will take a video of how the tent behaves in different wind conditions and with various techniques to reduce buffeting. I sent a message to Hilleburg asking for their thoughts on improving the pitch but never received a reply. I thought that was a bit odd seeing I own several of their tents and always buy directly from the store in Oregon. I have never asked anything from Hilleburg this was the only request I ever made. will post what I find after my next outing which will probably be in May. nice chatting with you Peter
I think for £640 we should be getting carbon fibre polls twice the strength and I’ve never ever had a tent pole fail on me on anything I bought at a fraction of that price please quote weight in pounds and ounces as well as KG half the world are still in pounds and ounces. Overall I like your reviews and you’re very honest keep it up👍
you must be like a mermaid or something, had an akto for donkey's years and nowt's ever got wet in it from condensation...maybe try one of those american tents where the outer doesn't touch the ground like a zpacks or six moons designs, they are light and popular, but draughty in our conditions.
@@glidezilla But Abbie referred to Akto that she used before the Enan, regarding the same issue for her. I have not had condensation problems either so far, but i have never pitched my Akto (similar design as Enan) in green grass either so far.
@@Braapncamp The difference between the Enan and the Akto is the roof ventilation which for sure does make a difference since warm air goes up. Actually, that's the only reason I think about going for the Akto instead of the Enan.
I would prefer a mortgage for a house not a tent. Have used Hilleberg tents and they are outstanding but I can get as much quality for half Rhea price from other manufacturers. It is a great tent but just extortionately priced.
They're priced that way due to production cost. It's obviously more expensive to produce tents in Europe than in an Asian factory with abhorrent working conditions and cheap labour. I myself find supporting European industry and companies with ethical practices in terms of workers' rights to be valuable in itself. Having that said, I'd never look down on people for being fixated on price tags as I understand that not everyone is in the same financial situation.
qwrtyz You missed the point and using ethical labour practices of European businesses does fall along way short. These tents are made in Estonia where the average factory worker earns less than €4 per hour and the cost of living is driven up by businesses exploiting this. I had a Hilleberg Allak and it was a great tent. The point was the cost is excessive no matter how you try to justify it and there are manufacturers in Western Europe that produce equipment of the same quality at half the price. The same can be said for any expensive high end product. You are buying a brand, and that brand is a low volume producer that needs to turn a profit. And to suggest that other manufacturers are using unethical practices in Asia to make their products is somewhat arrogant and condescending to everyone else that can’t afford a Hilleberg. So please continue to comment on your Asian made phone, tv and computer. It would be a shame for you to look down at all those people doing the same. In the mean time take a trip to Estonia and see how well Europe’s ethical values are being exploited. It’s a beautiful country with a lot of poor factory workers wearing Asian made clothing.
@@humanafterall2076 I think it's fairly safe to say that Hilleberg's factory workers are not exploited, which the video tour of their production facilities on RUclips is a testament to. Now, I obviously don't know what they make an hour, but I do know that many workers in Asia would be lucky to make €4 a day. I think that it's you who missed my point as I never stated that all European companies manufacturing in Europe are ethical, and I'm not ignorant of the fact that brand reputation and volume affect their pricing. Though, there are obviously many factors that make production in developing countries highly profitable, like real estate and taxes (or lack thereof through corruption). Above all, buying high quality, European made products when possible that will last a lifetime instead of buying several products of the same kind made in the third world throughout one's life is beneficial for our European economies, the European working class and the environment. Many electronic consumer goods are practically exclusively made in Asia, so I unfortunately don't really feel like a hypocrite.
There is nothing you can do about condensation because it comes from the ground up into your tent and if you have the doors open and all that it is not the tent Any tent we do the same thing
Al & Alex - Breath is only an issue if the tent is fully zipped up. Abbie has the tent and inner door open. I would suggest this is dew, especially this time of year. The footprint will help massively reduce condensation but the vented ends MUST not be closed and the outer door always needs to be unzipped a few inches at the top and double that on the bottom to create air flow. I see too many people complaining that Hilleberg tents get condensation, too many people do not use them correctly. If you sit/sleep inside a non breathable fabric without airflow it is bound to get damp/wet inside. You may as well use a black bin bag as a bivy bag. Ta chaps, Ant 😉
@@mountains_and_moors And a black bin bag is a tiny fraction of the cost of this ridiculously priced tent that has so many faults. More money than sense comes to mind, or you're given it for free. Even then I wouldn't use it.
@@alexmorgan3435 The moisture in your breath plays the smallest role in a condensation "problem". It's just a few ml of water you're breathing out during the night. That's enough to get a thin film of water at the outer tent but that's it. Everything above that comes from the earth or the air (fog, for example). The actual reason for condensation is the temperature difference between the inside and the outside of the fabric. The better a tent protects you against the elements, the warmer it is at the inside and the more moisture will cool out right at the inside of the fabric (because the outside is cooler, of course). If you open the vents, the temperature in the tent goes down and that's the main effect of venting.
Tent certainly not worth £640 when it doesn't come with a waterproof guarantee outside 12 months. Similar to MSR tents, if they were that reliable teh companies should endorse them and put their warranties where their mouths are and warrant the tents to be waterproof for at least 15 years.
I’ll bravely jump straight in and make a bold statement: I think Hilleberg are conceptually antiquated. I’ll make another bold statement: I think that if they don’t understand that they are conceptually antiquated they will lose the large majority of their customers over the next 5-10 years. In my eyes, they are starting to look like very old gear (like something from WW2) that while constructed like a tank is nonetheless misplaced in today’s world. I compare it to oiled canvas, tin-cloth, wool blankets, and things along that line. There are now lighter, stronger, more waterproof fabrics such as DCF which is significantly lighter than Kerlon, far more waterproof than Kerlon and in some ways (though not all) stronger than Kerlon. Hilleberg has their place, for sure, but in my opinion they are largely misused because they are largely misunderstood. Let me explain why: People consider most of their products as 4-seasons. This is in fact, inaccurate. In reality while you can use them in all seasons (the word to notice here is ‘can’) they are in fact built for half-season and that is deep winter (meaning, not even “just” winter but rather deep deep winter). None of their tents are flexible (as I will explain in a second) and frankly none of them are made for summer - including the Enan (again, I’ll explain why in a second). This is fairly easy to understand by the lack of height-control as the fly gets all the way to the ground (which is fantastic for snow but utterly terrible for anything other than snow - which is why I said it’s a 1-season tent if not half season). With the fly always inclosing the whole tent all the way to the ground, condensation will always be a huge problem due to the lack of air-flow. To make it worse, Kerlon is an absolute condensation magnet. It’s horrendous. And to make that even worse - it takes hours to fully dry once soaked! I mean… freaking hours! Absolutely horrible for backpacking (fine for base camping though). Their poles are seriously overrated - as you noted. I have an old Eureka with far thicker, far stronger, nigh on impossible to bend aluminum poles that can sustain 50kg of weight. Yep, you can literally half lean half sit on the tent and it won’t budge. I honestly have no idea why so many people consider DAC to be “the best”. They are really not. Not even remotely. Also, for what ever reason Hilleberg seem to have issues with their zippers. I’m not claiming to know why but I have my guesses… construction might be too demanding for what zippers are. So my point here is that something like the Enan, which is designated for 3-season use is in fact in a very problematic place. It’s clearly not for winter. It’s clearly not for summer (again, lack of height control). So what we are left with is autumn and spring and probably calm-winter. For those it’s a great tent. Now, consider this before you deem me a “Hilleberg hater”… I actually own the Staika and while in many ways it’s “the best tent in the world” I basically never use it. It’s too heavy, too difficult to dry, it’s a condensation abomination and frankly for the alleged two-people it’s designed for it’s not very comfortable. I will not sell it though because for wild camping at deep winter on snowy peaks it’s basically unmatched. Absolutely the best tent ever for that singular purpose. However, absolutely terrible for anything other that that very specific purpose. I do think they have some models that are very good choices (specifically the Soulo) but if I am to conclude my point(s): I think you are simply choosing the wrong kind of tents. In your case a combination of the Duomid with the half-inner would be ideal. Or perhaps a Zpacks tent or one of the UK small makers of DCF tents. If you think 1.2kg is low, the ones I mentioned are 450g - 700g and they have an HH of 20,000 whereas the Enan is only 5,000 for the fly and 15,000 for the floor. Like I said - Hilleberg are simply getting antiquated. Look at this video: ruclips.net/video/vc4DG5foAUQ/видео.html Also, I can’t remember in which video I saw it but Paul Wilcocks has a video where his DCF tent is wet so he allows it to wind dry… ten minutes and it was bone dry (because DCF doesn’t absorb water, at all, period). Try doing that with a Hilleberg and if you’re in luck it’ll be dry in 1-2 hours. If you’re unlucky expect half a day. To be absolutely brutally honest: I’d prefer the Chinese Lanshan 1 to most Hilleberg tents at this point and if I were you I’d actually consider it as a 3-season tent. It’s cheap. It’s flexible. It’s only 800g and its reputation seems to grow every day by UK users. Anyway… just my two cents.
Not all hillebergs have their flysheet to the ground. The anjan uses a capillary pattern to allow through flow of air as it is a summer tent. Some of your points make sense but for others it's clear you don't know what you're talking about. The Chinese tent you mention may be good for sheltered camping locations but the point of the Enan is that it is a mountain tent - I would never use your ul Chinese tent in the mountains. Never had an issue with the zips either.
@@alexandermajor6467 I don't like it for a different reason. The best example as to why is seen in a video (though I can't recall which) by garn fora ratch where due to lack of guy point the middle section basically folds half way into the tent during strong winds. That it might hold up is a point but the lack of sleep you'll have is another. That aside, with respect, I have not read anything by you to explain what it is that: "I don't know what I'm talking about". As for the Enan being a mountain tent... Hilleberg specifically says that it's not meant for mountain peaks so unless you're referring to sheltered spots it seems I'm not the one who doesn't know what he's talking about. Also, per the Lanshan, you can find videos by many using it in north England (such as Lake District and Peak District) as well as many who use it in Scotland. If you can find me an example of realistically worse conditions than Scotland and Skye that isn't Mt Everest then I'll consider that a technical loss... but I can't see that you can. I even seen videos of people using various different configurations of a single mid-pole tent in Scafell Pike. Suffice it to say - they're doing fine. Look at the video I linked in the initial post and you'll see a Scottish guy who uses those tents in Scottish winter. If you don't understand the implications of that then I suggest you should address your own comment to yourself. With regards to the zippers, again, Hilleberg themselves admitted it's an issue they haven't fully solved. I never had issues with the zippers in my Staika, that doesn't mean Hilleberg doesn't get issues in general. There are plenty more points I haven't even went into including the ability to self repair DCF due to its zero stretch and the chemical reaction making the patch a fully bonded piece. This is something you simply can't do with any nylon based material including Kerlon. You'll have to send it to the company for repair. To each his own. If you're happy with Hilleberg that's great. In my opinion anyone who can't see they're antiquated amongst new technology and new fabrics is simply lacking information.
That might go some way towards explaining the high price. Whether it justifies it is entirely subjective. Who wants to pay £600 to get soaking wet in their sleep? From Abbie’s description the tent sounds like it would only work well in quite warm dry and arid weather. I have an old Coleman Rigel X2 (single skin) that has as much space and that I would class in the same category. It weighs less than 1kg and cost about 1/10 of the price ten years ago.
Yeah, it is quite low in height, but theres enough floor space to sleep and fit a decent size pack. Whatever, it’s as good as useless in most Northern European weather because of condensation. It sounds like the one reviewed here is too.
Ridiculous price, so many serious flaws as well. Condensation is all your breath vapour. Get an MSR Hubba NX for 1/3 of the price and have enough change for a nice holiday. Always thought Hilleberg tents are way over priced. There are much better tents out there.
The poles from the Akto and the Enan are the same. Just another question. Did you just compare a high-end tent to a festival tent? Another question: Would you carry your pop up tent on a 1000 miles-hike?
@@kobold90 You clearly own one and don't want to be the fool who bought one. Well you could have kept it quiet but you decided to go public on the internet. Doh!
Not a good tent. Damp and easy to damage. I own this tend and have regretted it from the first day I woke up with a wet sleeping bag and heavy wet tent inside and out.
"Gotta love capitalism & consumerism". The biggest reason Hillebergs are pricier than your average tent maker out on the market is that they are made in Europe as opposed to some factory in Asia with abhorrent working conditions and cheap labour. They're a family run company with solid ethical commitments towards the people who make their products, unlike big multi-national conglomerates who solely care about the bottom line and luring in customers in the never-ending price wars. _That_ is the dark side of capitalism and consumerism. Hilleberg has even published a video tour of their factory on their RUclips channel, something you'll never see many other tent makers do.
Yes, because in physics the change of a substance from the gaseous (vapor) to the liquide state and the intermolecular forces pulling them together to droplets are in relation to how much you pay for a tent! ;)
what was wrong with the Akto that you already have and is also very expensive You gave it a rave review You saving 0.5 kg for the cost of 600 pounds Perhaps a bit too tied into consumerism
Hi Abbie, I have camped for nearly 50 night on 5 National Trails using the Enam, but only suffered with condensation if I pitched in longish grass. I do have a footprint. I keep the inner door open and leave the outer zip around 10cm opened.i don’t cook inside the tent. I love this tent. I can pitch it in 4 mins, it’s lightweight and it held up on what seemed, near hurricane winds in February on my Ridgeway trail. I paid £450 for the tent from Taunton Leisure during a sales promotion.
I have a similar tent, the Terra Nova laser and it also has bad condensations issue's. Recently brought a cheap Chinese tent called a Lanshan 1. A trecking pole tent. Less than £100 and weighs much less than any of these more expensive tents even with it's footprint. I used it on my recent hike on the Wainwright Coast to Coast. It handled all conditions like a boss. Minimal condensation, Plenty of space for a sub 6ft person, Good vestibule, very stable in windy conditions. I don't know how Hilleberg can justify their prices. Adventures are for everyone but not everyone can afford Hilleberg prices.
Thanks for the honest review Abbie.
Take care
Sandy
I have Lanshan 2. Brilliant tent. Last 2 years served me well in 3 different countries, mainly UK. It won’t survive what Hilleberg can, but I am not using my tent on Alaskan trails, so Lanshan2 suits me.
I have that tent as well. I have been using it only this year so my opinion on it is preliminary. But I will keep using it for a while. I agree with the verdict on condensation. Got it before the lanshan tents were as known. I have dd tarps tarptent. Seems to be very good for a single wall tent, except for the crappy zipper design. Ants can get trough my zipper. Weightwise it does approach ul doublewall designs as most of the weight is in pegs or the trekking poles. I have got the impression the dd tarptent might handle condensation better than the photon perhaps due to better vents and beign more openish in the vestibule. Not totally sure.
I really like the terra nova / wild country zephyros 2 tent. Reasonably priced for something not from a chinese website. It handles condensation very good for one person. As good as one can expect a tent like to handle it. I remember they increased the ventilation at some point and I guess I have the newer one. From that brand I consider the helm as someone recommended that. I am less impressed with the laser compared to the zephyros 1 or 2. If they get the weight down I am buying. I consider the 3f and others as well
Wiltshire Man- Sorry Sandy, I disagree with your Hilleberg comment. I am not a Hilleberg fanatic but as you know I do have a few Hilleberg tents, Anjan, Akto and Soulo. Each tent is sown by a single seamstress using top notch materials and followed up with a vigorous quality control process. Each tent has the makers name sown into it and takes ownership of their workmanship. Shocked you don’t think a think a hand built high quality item that should last many years if not a lifetime is not worth it 😕
Different stokes for different folks. I would rather have one high quality tent than several cheeper items. You can only use one tent at a time! And yes, I have 3. Maybe I am a snob!!!
I still love you WW 😉
People often forget that Hilleberg does nothing but tents, they have a lifetime warranty, lifetime spare parts to buy, most tent manufactorer nowdays make a tent and stop selling parts after few years. You can buy parts for your 20 year old akto at the hilleberg site.
Abbie, There is nothing I can tell you that you probably don’t already know. However I believe this model is pronounced E-Nan.
The footprint would massively improve the damp/wet issue but only if you don’t leave the tent fully open. Most people zip the whole thing up and even close of the vented ends then the tent has no airflow at all and as a non breathable tent it is bound to get soaked.
I suspect having the tent fully open, bedroom door too is that you are letting dew into the tent, especially this time of year. I have used the Enan too and on warm nights I would keep the outer door open but close the mesh door as this did stop the dew getting into the inner/bedroom.
A footprint is little over 200g and keeps out the damp wet ground as well as protecting the floor of the inner. You must allow airflow and on my Akto both end zips are permanently half open even in poor weather. The Akto’s door has a vent (again for airflow) but love how you see this as a kinda window. I rarely get a damp tent even on the wettest of days.
Keep up the good work. ATB Ant 👍🏻😉
I have the hubba hubba nx 2 person, love it plenty of vents so no condensation, used it in high wind ,alpine rain storms ,etc its never let me down and i feel so confident when it ,after watching this i am so glad a bought it now
I got an Enan and although I only used it 8 nights in the Abisko/Keb-Area I don't share your problems with condensation. I always put the tent up with the feet towards the wind and that contributes to a constant flow through the tent wich helped even during the rainy nights on that trip.
With that said, all tents suffer from condensation in some conditions. If it is a lot of moisture in the air and no wind, you will have some condensation in any tent including the Enan.
Overall I think the Enan is a really good tent but it is a bit cramped.
so can you say that the enan is fjelll approved? thinking about getting the enan for my solo trip on the complete southern kungsleden in september.
@@melloncollie5401 I would say so! A lot of people use Enan in the Swedish mountains and I have not heard of anyone having any issues.
I unfortunately sold my Enan when I bought a Niak so I don't have it anymore, It was a really good tent and I miss it so I try not to think about it too often!
Absolutely worth the money. I have suffered no condensation issues whatsoever.
I often have some on the inside of the fly. Nothing to worry about. And the inner tent was allways dry. I'm glad I went for the Enan instead of the Akto.
Thanks for another honest review, although reviewing a tent seems to really irk people like few other things.
Bought an akto after seeing, amongst others, your review. Still happy with it although I have now got a laser competition 1 as a lighter 3 season option. Very happy with that, but much more fragile than the akto.
People banging on about the price tag are, hopefully, unaware that Hillebergs are hand finished in Estonia with the name of the person who finished it on a tag inside the tent and that the outer material is second to none. With the correct care the tent should see many years of use, in the harshest conditions.
I've got a soulo.its expensive but u know you ain't getting blown away or wet!
My Akto doesn't have the door upper rain hood , because it's s pre-2000 model. I use an 'original space blanket' as a footprint (reflective side up) and it helps .
I'm going for a new Akto, saving hard and can't wait to have it. Yes they are expensive but I know it is very well made and will last me a long time. Nothing wrong with buying cheaper tents at all but I have set my sights on a Hilleberg now. Happy camping folks. :)
How u getting on with it
@@lewisjones7153 Not pulled the trigger yet on a new tent but will buy a Soulo when I do. Akto is too small!
@@Bereit18 I can never find hilleberg in stock anymore
Hi Abby I have the Soulo and it far better for condensation problems. I've been camping with a mate with a akto where his tent was soaked and mine was dry. Yes it is heavier and way stronger. I wouldn't swap it for anything else.
Reviews like this make me even happier with my Berghaus Peak 3.1 Pro! 1.7 kg, zero condensation issues so far and under £110.
I have many Hilleberg tents Abbie, including the Enan and Akto and I've never had condensation problems. The footprint is only 200grams so I always use one and it makes all the difference.
I never cook or boil water in the vestibule as it is a sure way to cause condensation which becomes apparent in the night and I always sleep with the inner and outer zip open a couple of inches. I probably have the lighter version than the one you discuss here. They made an earlier one which has 600 Kerlon which is the one I was able to source in preference to the new 1000 Kerlon and heavier version which you seemingly have. Try the footprint, it's worth a bit more weight. I respect what you are doing Abbie as I've just checked out your website and I agree you are awesome. Best wishes and never stop the adventures.
Hello Abbie. I got an Enan this spring and although I only used it 7 nights this summer in different conditions in northern Norway, I never had problems with condensation...maybe I’m just lucky. Have an Nallo gt 2 for arctic winter nights, both great tents. Paid £440 for the Enan during a sales promotion, great videos by the way🙂👍🏻
I had an Enan not so long ago and I was soaked on the first nights use, I got rid of it shortly after that. I wanted to try it as I had an Akto years ago which I didn't get on with due to the design of the inner and the Enan has a far far better inner.
The footprint makes very little difference IME, I mainly use single skin tarp style tents and have never woken up soaked or with any condensation that gave me concern on my quilt or bag. Every shelter will suffer from condensation but I was not putting up with the amount in the Enan.
Hillibergs are great strong tents but they are expensive and heavy. There are far far lighter options with more space that cost a lot less out there.
ATB, Dave
thanks for the review. Was looking for a more breathable less condensation tent, so good to know this is not it
I use the Soulo red label with a groundsheet year-round all over Europe in all seasons. Never had problems. The angles of the wall are so steep that if there is a bit of condensation, it goes directly to the ground. It won't even reach the groundsheet since there is a gap.
Best tent, hands down. Compared to the Akto and Enan, you can even stay a day inside the tent since it is much roomier
If you want that shape of tent and for it to be light weight with brilliant ventilation then just get a wild country zephros 1
Or the terra nova laser photon 1 of the terra nova laser competition 1. Have owned and used all these before and had very little to no condensation. That is because of the brilliant new design with vents at both ends of the tent and the tent inner. And they are a fraction of the price.
I have enan and I havent notice bad condensation. Usually use footprint. Some people say that they have that problem and some they dont. Interesting.
Condensation heavily depends on the place at which you pitch your tent. And Great Britain is in the middle of a warm sea. Where do you live?
Having an Enan too, I can confirm the condensation issue, even though I do use a footprint. I ran a series of test nights, all with little wind. Every night I did not sleep well due to cold feet because the condensation got in the foot box of my sleeping bag. I use a comfy Thermarest NeoAir Xlite with a fluffy down sleeping bag, which is a bulky set-up. So it is likely to touch the inner tent, or worse make the inner touch the outer. Not only the outer fly suffers from condensation, even the inner tent can get moist on the inside. This did surprise me with the all mesh door. The sleeping bag is a Western Mountaineering from the Extreme Light series, and the outer fabric easily absorbs moisture. The next experiment will use a plastic bag over the foot end of the sleeping bag (and mattress, in order to keep it in position).
I also used the tent with the inner removed completely. This creates much more room, so you are unlikely to touch the outer tent. Still I slept bad, with cold feet due to a moist sleeping bag. Why, I don't know yet. Plus you are no longer protected against insects.
About the touching of the inner and outer tent: it helps when the tent is pitched really taut. However, the nylon Kerlon fabric elongates when wet. So it is really usefull to use strong camping elastics at the two longitudinal guy lines. Originally, these guy lines form a loop: they pull at both ends of the small vertical poles. The bottom end is not important, it is the upper end that has to be at serious tension. So I did split these guy line in two, and only the upper part (the part at an angle) has the elastic. This modification works well. It also eliminates the risk of tearing the outer tent fabric when drying and over-tensioning due to shrinking. We experienced this with a Nallo 2GT, ripping cross-wise above the ventilation at the back. OK, it was an old tent, which had taken a lot of UV, but still.
One other annoying issue is the door. In the morning, with the wet outer fly, there is just no way how to open the door without getting wet. I guess the only option is to wipe it dry before you open the door.
All in all, it is a cumbersome experience. I want it to work, as I need its small pack size.
Which direction do you pitch it to the wind? It seems that some people have a condensation issue and others not so and it is hard to understand what the difference is. I've spent two nights in mine so far. Night one was very windy (40 mph) and relatively warm (14 C) and the fly was bone dry. Second night was less windy (20-30 mph) and sheltered and cooler (10 C) and I got only the slightest sheen of condensation. I was aware of the potential issue, so I've been using a clothes peg to keep the door vent open at the top and either I respire less water (possible) or this works.
Summer of 2021 I used the Enan at the Colle Sommeiller in Italy, camping near the Rifugio Scarfiotti. Late in the evening it started to rain heavily, so hard that I used ear plugs to cope with the noise. This lasted around one hour, enough to cause the rain to flood the camp site. The Enan coped with this surprisingly well! OK, the inner is really small, so storing all the gear inside the inner isn't easy, but the bathtub floor kept the inner competely dry. It made me think about using a footprint though. The extra fabric just meant more cleaning afterwards, as everything was muddy. Two conclusions: the Enan is more capable than expected (OK, I use a 10 mm pole from a Nammatj 2) and pick the camping spot with more care to avoid floodings.
Informative and entertaining! I don't know what else one can ask of a review. More please!
Its a crazy price for a 3 season shelter! I have the Akto which I hardly use due to the condinsation issues. I favour the SMD Gatewood which is only £130 and has worked well in heavy rain and wind on Dartmoor. With the Gatewood and serinity net it is only around 550grams, Abbie. Worth considering if you're trying to shred the weight, or an MLD duo mid?? I know 2 people who bought the Enan and sold it after one use as they got soaked in it.
Crazy is paying 1000€ for a true 3 season tent. The Enan can handle everything beside snow. I just came back from a two-days hike. It works fine, even at -11°C. I just slept a total of 6 nights in it and I never woke up wet. Not even after a foggy autumn night. I was afraid of condensation because of Abbys videos but there wasn't more condensation than in any other tent I've used so far.
A good, much cheaper alternative is the Vango F10 Helium UL 1 ( 1person) or UL 2 (2 person) tents. These are Vango's mountain tents. The UL2 trail weight is around 1.2kg or 1.4kg if you carry it all. The designi s very similar to the Hiiliberg and retails around £185 - £200.
You stole my thunder, the vango also has ventilation on the inner at both ends
I must be the luckiest person to own an Akto, condensation has never been an issue. Though I do hear so many complaints.
On another note don't sleep with the door open on Dartmoor at the moment. Tents are being attacked by foxes. I woke to find one on me the other night, which then promptly took a nip at my foot.
You going on about foxes and Sandy going on about his coast to coast walk... 😜
I am a tad shocked that you don’t get condensations as you have no footprint and you do go on some silly wet camps with me. That said you are sensible and let the tent breath. Too many people zip the whole thing up!
@@mountains_and_moors Where'd you come from? Thought I'd finally lost you on the moor...
That's the big plus of the Enan. The ventilation openings are closed with mesh so no foxes can attack.
Thankyou so much for such an honest and objective review (as always). Could I just ask how you find the tent copes in wet ground in the rain, with the low bath tub and whether you find it too breezy and cold with the all mesh door! Many thanks
HUGE TRICK - #1 TIP
If you want to easily gain access to either of the flaps that cover/uncover the ventilation ends, simply disconnect 2 toggles that connect the inner to the outer ROOF, then easily reach over to open/close the flap, easy peasy.
No one not even Hilleberg mentions/shows this TRICK
Warm Regards from Reno, Nevada
Typical dank and humid UK conditions, in northern hills challenging at times to reduce condensation build up. Where you pitch of course is a factor, tents such as Hilleberg, other than the Niak, the fly is firmly down at ground level, trapping moisture. I had an Akto, as good as this tent is, I had encountered the full condensation experience when backpacking in Scotland. Now use tents by Tarptent with good venting systems, fly venting much more innovative and partial upper inner door mesh through venting between double porches. Since using a Scarp 1, I have never had a problem with a wet sleeping bag.
Nice review Abbie, I've got a couple of 4 season Hilles but haven't taken the 3 season plunge yet. Good to see some info on this. Cheers.
Well. Firstly thank you for your review. I have to say I'm shocked regarding the condensation problem on this enan review. I read a review into the Enan from a very well respected independent reviewer who said that that had been really thought through by HB and alot of the condensation issues from the akto had been dealt with. I had been eager to buy the Enan but now I'm not so sure. Could I ask if after more years of use have seen the same condensation issues or have you found a way to improve the situation? I'm left wondering do I really want to spend that much money on a tent when in the morning everything is soaked due to condensation. I'm thinking I might look at the cheaper MSR hubba solo for review comparison? Any advice on how you feel about the enan now? And was the akto as bad for condensation? Thanks
Great review Abbie, I looked at the Enan but got a Niak instead, I absolutely love it with loads of space and only 1.70kg. Maybe you should see if you can get your hands on one of those to try next.
+1 for the Niak - same weight as the Akto but more space and no condensation issue for me in three years of usage
I have read of someone returning their Niak because it is too short for them: the ends slope a lot so that with a thick pad the length is not as much as an Akto (which has vertical ends).
Strange how other well known tents of almost identical design don’t appear to have similar condensation problems
@@petergilbert72 A year on I’ve just seen your comment but that’s so obviously incorrect. I own one and I’m six foot tall and it’s fine but you can look at the dimensions on Hilleberg site.
With regard to it sloping, I’m not sure what you mean as it’s a symmetrical dome unlike the Akto and Soulo.
@@BTurner. I think the person who returned it was several inches taller. The Hilleberg site only gives dimensions at ground level. If you’ve got a thick sleeping pad plus a pillow and a head on top (!) the effective length is at a height perhaps 30cm above ground level. If the ends slope in (as with dome tents) the useful length is reduced. The Akto ends slope outwards at the top so the effective length at that height is longer than the dimensions at ground level and quoted in the Hilleberg site. Does that make sense? Hilleberg do a video on choosing a tent for tall people and Tom Heaney Adventure makes the same point in his comparison videos.
Looks a really nice tent for bike packing definitely on my list.
Thank you for being honest been a active camper myself from my discovery there is no perfect tent. I have used a four season, a set of marmot, canvas tarp, cheap tarps, military rain poncho, snugpak and some good old fashion dirt napping with out even a sleeping bag this works best with alcohol. After I broke a pole on my snugpak I had some new ones custom made for me. They were pre bent and this made set up so much better even did the same for a eureka solitaire. Your condesation can be battle with using the wind in your favor try setting up lying parallel with the wind and open the door so the breeze comes through. Remember to watch the wind does often change one hundred and eighty degrees when the sun goes down.
You can buy these at the moment for just over £500 in the UK through certain retailers but the condensation is a deal breaker for me. Thanks for your honest review! Akto for me I think. 👍
HI Abbie, I think condensation is a common problem with light weight tents, lets face it essentially they are a waterproof plastic bag! I have been using Vangos F10 Helium UL 2 tent for trail walking. It is half the price of the Enan but is a little heavier. What I like about it is, it is a two man tent so there is plenty of space for me and it has two doors either side, so it is possible to create a through air flow at night which helps with the condensation problem.
Clive
I’ve picked a Vaude tent as three season not just because it was cheaper , but for me , one of the main reasons is in my opinion they are the most ethical and eco based companies currently selling camping/hiking equipment even their clothing is ethically and sustainably sourced.
Good honest review Abbie.
I know an Enan user who finds that compared to his Akto it's much noisier in the wind. They have used the lightest possible fabric, and the large panels stretch and flap.
Hilleberg makes good winter tents from what I hear. This problem with condensation is the lack of mesh. That inner tent needs to be partial mesh at least, in real hot and humid conditions, full mesh is the way to go. Apex vent would be good
Full mesh inner tents are available for most of the models. Combined with a footprint, you still save some weight and you have a summer tent.
Thanks for the tent info.....bit of an eye opener.
Bit too expensive for me, think I'll stick with my Lanshan 2, the colour is black, weighs about 1kg and uses 2 walking poles, it is around £100 and it has tons of room. Good review of the tent, nice one. 👍👍👍
Rich It is a lot less faffing around than putting poles into sleeves when it's raining and windy.
Lanshans are giant killers great tents at great price people poo poo them but best 3 season one man tent i have ever used ( and i have used a ton of tents from nearly every maker)
The red is sporty and fun. Swedes like the red, too. N you won’t be lost with the red one!
A great video Abbie Regarding the condensation could you not carry a cheap absorbent sponge just to wipe it down in the morning. Just a suggestion
Jeah..I was just wondering the mindset of this place. Crying over some water. They should carry an aggregat with a heater in their backpack and I bet the problem of condensation ends immediately.
As a seasoned long distance hiker' would be interested in your view on these new Dyneema fabric tents that are becoming popular with the ultra-light crowd ? ..With them being easy erected with 2 trekking poles, and the tent body itself weighing next-to-nothing, along with the fabric purported to be extra durable - seems a step forward in tent evolution..
Your review is much appreciated. However, please use a tall model with broad shoulders in the future to demonstrate spaciousness.
Wild country helm 1, game changer.
GingerActive 87
Just spent a month camping in the Lake District with a Helm 1
Superb tent
Held up to very heavy rains and was bone dry
1.7 kg so a reasonable weight
There is condensation
but the top of the inner is mesh
and there is such a gap space between the inner and outer that it is not an issue of getting wet
A wipe down takes care of it
Yep I love my helm 2! Better now Iv modded it some what, Just bought a Robens starlight 1 as I fancy a solo tent and a change of scenery
Wish they made a right handed version. I'd buy that.
Should look at 1 man lite fighter tent
Great review. Nice tent.
Hello! Thank you for your review :) Could you give as an example a tent which is better about condensation, from your experience. And which tent that you've used has the best ventilation?
Hi i myself use the Soulo RL with a groundsheet since a Year now in Snow, Sandy beaches in Italy, France, corse, Germany, forests, on top of Switzerlands biggest mountains. Never had any condensation problems so far.
If you use it in forests there is a bit condensation on the outer tent layer, but not so much that it forms a drop.
Anyhow, thats my experience so far and it some circumstances even a flat tarp can have it.
@@IIISentorIII Thank you! :)
I don't own a hill berg enan but I know they sell a mesh inner which can be replaced with th inner that comes with the tent. Would be interesting to see how this performs ie. condensation
Great review Abbie. I was concidering Enan but went for an Akto this spring. I've not had problem with condensation yet, even in rain. But i've not pitched the Akto on green grass yet only on grey moss and dry forest soil. Both, vents fully open and inner tent closed but with midget/mosquito window open, oeter tent door closed with a 20cm gap open on top. I have not cooked inside the tent. No footprint for the same reasons as You. On the Allak i have a footprint though since i'm often not concerned about weight when using that. Better vents on the Allakt though with it's different design, but on the otherhand on the far heavy side for solo hiking. What do you dry out your condensation with? i took a small fibre towel with me in case. Whats your tip about that?
...about the price tag, It's a well made tent and last for generations mostly for normal use, but still on the pricey side. Would imagine that this was required when Hilleberg had a lower production volume, but today i could imagine that the volume is higher.
@@Braapncamp Skaling effect doesn't kick in as long as one single person makes one single tent. The tents are worth the price, that's not the question. But do you need a Hilleberg? It's your money.
@@kobold90 since i allteady have two Hillebergs i allready made that descision without doubt. Sounds reasonable about the scale not effecting though, except regarding materials and office headcounts maybe.
Even tarp has condensation "problem". Unfortunately I have not used my Enan so much, but I had one night without condensation - it was very light wind , but tent was staying in the right way - ventilation in front of the wind. This way wind blows thru and brings out moisture.
It seems that it is in thend to talk about condensation. Does one knows some some good tent, which doesn't has "condensation" problem?
There is no tent without condensation. Especially not in Great Britian where the air is warm and wet because of the sea.
Morning hope you are well all good here been out on various bits of the pennine way , the best and most lightweight tent is a bothy just kidding tenting and sleeping on the floor is hard no matter what keep your chin up hun
Nice review. Not sure about the price and the condensation problem.
Check out the Robens starlight 1 , amazing venting options good quality loads of features, down sides the pack ability, upside its 125quid with more features than the Enan and in a storm would give a hillerberg a run for its money!
Just to say I love hillerberg they’re awesome but scary expensive
A ultra light tarp, light camp bed and a very good sleeping bag
Still no good waking up in a swimming pool.ive got the soulo quite good on ventilation.but twice as heavy!.
You're selling the Kerlon 1000 way short. You make it sound weak and fragile. It is Hilleberg's least tough material but it is far more durable and tear resistant than pretty much any of the silnylon/silpoly tents out there. There is almost no circumstance that this could get shredded to pieces. Unless maybe you took a knife to it and went Psycho on it.
Hmm, the thing with the condensation is one of the main reasons why I was thinking long about buying it or not and I decided not to buy, even because I already have with the Akto a tent suchlike the Enan only with the differenz in weight. I guess also because you can not open up the Head- and footendparts of the tent (Mesh down) it has this condensation problems. One of the most important things that I already miss at tents from Hilleberg is the two verstibul version of such a tent.
Have a good day and hike on
Ah, just in case you don`t already have the information about a new upcoming tent from hilleberg for spring next year. Because I have seen your Hilleberg Enan - Akto comparison video I remembered that even because in your last videos you were quite often out there in hot sun and you mentioned about that it`s now too hot for beeing inside of the tents.
But before giving you two links for possible more airy alternatives I must request you not to make me responsible because I have laid you such an pricy egg into your nest. 😳😁
ruclips.net/video/iowngkp3C2w/видео.html
The tent I am actually flirting with is:
lightheartgear.com/collections/tents/products/lightheart-duo-tent
It`s a little bit lighter than the Enan tent, has two vestibules to open in good weather conditions. When it rains without heavy wind you could also fit the air circulation for your needs. And don`t be confused about the colours. Beside the red they also have steel blue and other colours. I guess the most interesting one to both of us would be simply the camouflage one`s right? I also don`t like it so much when my tent looks like a beacon.🤣 Greets from Germany
Seemed to me you struggled to find ' positives ' about this tent , but at least it was a sunny day and you seemed happy =-) , just a quick question from someone who knows nothing lol , What's a " Footprint " that was mentioned you could get for the tent?
a ground sheet that covers the grassy area inside the tent or the whole pitch area giving extra protection under the tent
Ok thank you =-)
£600+ seems like a lot of money for a tent with weak poles, fragile outer and tons of condensation.
Better off with a six moons lunar solo
I am using £80 Lanshan 2 tent from aliexpress. I am using it in 🇬🇧. Dartmoor, Snowdonis etc. It is amazing tent for the price. No condensation issues at all. For colder weather you can buy different inner tent with less mesh. Weight only 1.3kg.
I will recommend it all day long.
@@jbradshaw4236 Agree, I use a SMD Gatewood. Brilliant
@Armpitjam 4 I wouldn't, their ripstop nylon is terrible.
NickOnDartmoor
Mine is still fine. In Dartmoor my tent handled 40 miles/h wind, no problem. I wouldn’t take it for more or if I have always weather like this. But who has 40miles/h wind everyday, in UK?
My friend enan has no problem with condensation. But he sleeps with the fly door rolled up
Thank for the review. Don't know if you realise that you've uploaded at 60fps, you only need to use 24fps for this kind of video, 24fps will save you a ton of disk space and be smoother to edit.
Thanks for this. Thats because I shoot 60fps on my GoPro. I tried the 24fps but have been having endless issues with my go pros (7) regardless of what I shoot in, so just default with the 60!!
@@AbbieBarnesWILD Gopros can be a nightmare although my 7 black seems ok so far. Would def look into getting 24fps working as many of your viewers won't be able to view at 60fps and it may step down to the 480p version.
Hi Abbie, the tent sounds wonderful, but you are even more! If only we could have met 40 years ago!
lol Thats Totally Not Creepy At All
좋은 리뷰 감사합니다 ^^♡
I agree with the footprint, can’t see the point in them. If the tent floor isn’t robust enough, then the manufacturer should beef that up rather than selling footprints!!
Get a lead pencil. Carrying a half or 3rd of a capenters pemcil is good, to lubricate Zippers, of any king steel alloy plastic thick YKK types. Just run pencil along zip and it wont stick.
Seems funny to me that a lot of people seem to be having a pop at Abbie for spending that much on a tent. I doubt very much that many of us spend as much time in the tent as Abbie. Camping is obviously a big part of her life and hilleberg still make some of the best tents in the world. Also I spent 1000 pounds on my tent but only 900 on my car I feel it’s a matter of priorities.
This is RUclips. People "take pops" at others merely for existing. (In fairness, Twitter is arguably worse).
If you were cooking in the tent, that could have a serious impact on condensation.
lol...
Abbie you need a Lux Peak trust me!
More Enan videos Abbie!!!!!
Have you tried MSR 1 person tents ?
Looking for advice on improving the pitch of my Hilleberg Enan. I use my Hilleberg Enan when I am planning on pitching above the tree line and expecting foul weather such as high winds and significant rain. I am hoping someone might be able to provide some advice on reducing the outer fabric from flapping excessively.
I’ve seen blogs by others who fit four extra guys (two either side of the triangular ends). With these fitted the tent looks really tight. These extra guys are at 45 degrees.
@@petergilbert72 thanks Peter. I recently added the guys, it was easy as there is already a guy attachment points where you point out.I have a theory that th surface both outer and inner skin of the tent is acting like a wing and generating high low pressure flux as the wind both through and over the tent. Next time out I plan to close the windward vent and see if I can get the wind to work in my favor and generate lift pulling the fabric out and making it flap less.
@@martinclennon4640 interesting; that makes sense, lower pressure where the air is moving faster through a constrained space. What I find odd is that Hilleberg isn’t advising how to get the best out of their tents in different circumstances. It all seems a bit hit or miss, with bits of anecdotes about what works. Anyway, maybe there’s a result!
@@petergilbert72 I will take a video of how the tent behaves in different wind conditions and with various techniques to reduce buffeting. I sent a message to Hilleburg asking for their thoughts on improving the pitch but never received a reply. I thought that was a bit odd seeing I own several of their tents and always buy directly from the store in Oregon. I have never asked anything from Hilleburg this was the only request I ever made. will post what I find after my next outing which will probably be in May.
nice chatting with you Peter
@@martinclennon4640 thanks Martin.
What do you mean by a “footprint “?
Mark Evans:
It's a separate groundsheet that the tent can be pitched on top of to protect the floor of the tent from wear and dirt.
And....NO velcro. Yes!
I think for £640 we should be getting carbon fibre polls twice the strength and I’ve never ever had a tent pole fail on me on anything I bought at a fraction of that price please quote weight in pounds and ounces as well as KG half the world are still in pounds and ounces. Overall I like your reviews and you’re very honest keep it up👍
Carbon fibre poles are just used in cheap tents since they're way heavier and break instead of bend. Nod a good idea.
you must be like a mermaid or something, had an akto for donkey's years and nowt's ever got wet in it from condensation...maybe try one of those american tents where the outer doesn't touch the ground like a zpacks or six moons designs, they are light and popular, but draughty in our conditions.
That is not an Akto.
@@glidezilla But Abbie referred to Akto that she used before the Enan, regarding the same issue for her. I have not had condensation problems either so far, but i have never pitched my Akto (similar design as Enan) in green grass either so far.
@@Braapncamp The difference between the Enan and the Akto is the roof ventilation which for sure does make a difference since warm air goes up. Actually, that's the only reason I think about going for the Akto instead of the Enan.
If Hilleberg makes a DCF version of this tent, it will probably cost $6,000.
And the emotional intelligence is most important and I love your video
I would prefer a mortgage for a house not a tent. Have used Hilleberg tents and they are outstanding but I can get as much quality for half Rhea price from other manufacturers. It is a great tent but just extortionately priced.
They're priced that way due to production cost. It's obviously more expensive to produce tents in Europe than in an Asian factory with abhorrent working conditions and cheap labour. I myself find supporting European industry and companies with ethical practices in terms of workers' rights to be valuable in itself. Having that said, I'd never look down on people for being fixated on price tags as I understand that not everyone is in the same financial situation.
qwrtyz
You missed the point and using ethical labour practices of European businesses does fall along way short. These tents are made in Estonia where the average factory worker earns less than €4 per hour and the cost of living is driven up by businesses exploiting this.
I had a Hilleberg Allak and it was a great tent. The point was the cost is excessive no matter how you try to justify it and there are manufacturers in Western Europe that produce equipment of the same quality at half the price. The same can be said for any expensive high end product. You are buying a brand, and that brand is a low volume producer that needs to turn a profit.
And to suggest that other manufacturers are using unethical practices in Asia to make their products is somewhat arrogant and condescending to everyone else that can’t afford a Hilleberg. So please continue to comment on your Asian made phone, tv and computer. It would be a shame for you to look down at all those people doing the same.
In the mean time take a trip to Estonia and see how well Europe’s ethical values are being exploited. It’s a beautiful country with a lot of poor factory workers wearing Asian made clothing.
@@humanafterall2076 I think it's fairly safe to say that Hilleberg's factory workers are not exploited, which the video tour of their production facilities on RUclips is a testament to. Now, I obviously don't know what they make an hour, but I do know that many workers in Asia would be lucky to make €4 a day. I think that it's you who missed my point as I never stated that all European companies manufacturing in Europe are ethical, and I'm not ignorant of the fact that brand reputation and volume affect their pricing. Though, there are obviously many factors that make production in developing countries highly profitable, like real estate and taxes (or lack thereof through corruption). Above all, buying high quality, European made products when possible that will last a lifetime instead of buying several products of the same kind made in the third world throughout one's life is beneficial for our European economies, the European working class and the environment. Many electronic consumer goods are practically exclusively made in Asia, so I unfortunately don't really feel like a hypocrite.
There is nothing you can do about condensation because it comes from the ground up into your tent and if you have the doors open and all that it is not the tent Any tent we do the same thing
Comes from moisture in your breath.
Al & Alex - Breath is only an issue if the tent is fully zipped up. Abbie has the tent and inner door open. I would suggest this is dew, especially this time of year.
The footprint will help massively reduce condensation but the vented ends MUST not be closed and the outer door always needs to be unzipped a few inches at the top and double that on the bottom to create air flow. I see too many people complaining that Hilleberg tents get condensation, too many people do not use them correctly. If you sit/sleep inside a non breathable fabric without airflow it is bound to get damp/wet inside. You may as well use a black bin bag as a bivy bag. Ta chaps, Ant 😉
@@mountains_and_moors And a black bin bag is a tiny fraction of the cost of this ridiculously priced tent that has so many faults. More money than sense comes to mind, or you're given it for free. Even then I wouldn't use it.
@@alexmorgan3435 And moisture from your breath comes from your urinary bladder..
@@alexmorgan3435 The moisture in your breath plays the smallest role in a condensation "problem". It's just a few ml of water you're breathing out during the night. That's enough to get a thin film of water at the outer tent but that's it. Everything above that comes from the earth or the air (fog, for example). The actual reason for condensation is the temperature difference between the inside and the outside of the fabric. The better a tent protects you against the elements, the warmer it is at the inside and the more moisture will cool out right at the inside of the fabric (because the outside is cooler, of course). If you open the vents, the temperature in the tent goes down and that's the main effect of venting.
Tent certainly not worth £640 when it doesn't come with a waterproof guarantee outside 12 months. Similar to MSR tents, if they were that reliable teh companies should endorse them and put their warranties where their mouths are and warrant the tents to be waterproof for at least 15 years.
I’ll bravely jump straight in and make a bold statement: I think Hilleberg are conceptually antiquated.
I’ll make another bold statement: I think that if they don’t understand that they are conceptually antiquated they will lose the large majority of their customers over the next 5-10 years.
In my eyes, they are starting to look like very old gear (like something from WW2) that while constructed like a tank is nonetheless misplaced in today’s world.
I compare it to oiled canvas, tin-cloth, wool blankets, and things along that line.
There are now lighter, stronger, more waterproof fabrics such as DCF which is significantly lighter than Kerlon, far more waterproof than Kerlon and in some ways (though not all) stronger than Kerlon.
Hilleberg has their place, for sure, but in my opinion they are largely misused because they are largely misunderstood.
Let me explain why:
People consider most of their products as 4-seasons. This is in fact, inaccurate.
In reality while you can use them in all seasons (the word to notice here is ‘can’) they are in fact built for half-season and that is deep winter (meaning, not even “just” winter but rather deep deep winter).
None of their tents are flexible (as I will explain in a second) and frankly none of them are made for summer - including the Enan (again, I’ll explain why in a second).
This is fairly easy to understand by the lack of height-control as the fly gets all the way to the ground (which is fantastic for snow but utterly terrible for anything other than snow - which is why I said it’s a 1-season tent if not half season).
With the fly always inclosing the whole tent all the way to the ground, condensation will always be a huge problem due to the lack of air-flow. To make it worse, Kerlon is an absolute condensation magnet. It’s horrendous. And to make that even worse - it takes hours to fully dry once soaked! I mean… freaking hours! Absolutely horrible for backpacking (fine for base camping though).
Their poles are seriously overrated - as you noted.
I have an old Eureka with far thicker, far stronger, nigh on impossible to bend aluminum poles that can sustain 50kg of weight. Yep, you can literally half lean half sit on the tent and it won’t budge. I honestly have no idea why so many people consider DAC to be “the best”. They are really not. Not even remotely.
Also, for what ever reason Hilleberg seem to have issues with their zippers. I’m not claiming to know why but I have my guesses… construction might be too demanding for what zippers are.
So my point here is that something like the Enan, which is designated for 3-season use is in fact in a very problematic place. It’s clearly not for winter. It’s clearly not for summer (again, lack of height control). So what we are left with is autumn and spring and probably calm-winter. For those it’s a great tent.
Now, consider this before you deem me a “Hilleberg hater”… I actually own the Staika and while in many ways it’s “the best tent in the world” I basically never use it.
It’s too heavy, too difficult to dry, it’s a condensation abomination and frankly for the alleged two-people it’s designed for it’s not very comfortable.
I will not sell it though because for wild camping at deep winter on snowy peaks it’s basically unmatched. Absolutely the best tent ever for that singular purpose. However, absolutely terrible for anything other that that very specific purpose.
I do think they have some models that are very good choices (specifically the Soulo) but if I am to conclude my point(s): I think you are simply choosing the wrong kind of tents.
In your case a combination of the Duomid with the half-inner would be ideal. Or perhaps a Zpacks tent or one of the UK small makers of DCF tents.
If you think 1.2kg is low, the ones I mentioned are 450g - 700g and they have an HH of 20,000 whereas the Enan is only 5,000 for the fly and 15,000 for the floor.
Like I said - Hilleberg are simply getting antiquated.
Look at this video:
ruclips.net/video/vc4DG5foAUQ/видео.html
Also, I can’t remember in which video I saw it but Paul Wilcocks has a video where his DCF tent is wet so he allows it to wind dry… ten minutes and it was bone dry (because DCF doesn’t absorb water, at all, period). Try doing that with a Hilleberg and if you’re in luck it’ll be dry in 1-2 hours. If you’re unlucky expect half a day.
To be absolutely brutally honest: I’d prefer the Chinese Lanshan 1 to most Hilleberg tents at this point and if I were you I’d actually consider it as a 3-season tent. It’s cheap. It’s flexible. It’s only 800g and its reputation seems to grow every day by UK users.
Anyway… just my two cents.
hilleburg is making a Lanshan 2 variant in 2020. Also 3F UL lanshan 2 PRO expected, instagram.com/p/By8TlMAgzxg/
Not all hillebergs have their flysheet to the ground. The anjan uses a capillary pattern to allow through flow of air as it is a summer tent. Some of your points make sense but for others it's clear you don't know what you're talking about. The Chinese tent you mention may be good for sheltered camping locations but the point of the Enan is that it is a mountain tent - I would never use your ul Chinese tent in the mountains. Never had an issue with the zips either.
@@oldunion I've seen that but it's not going to be very light weight imo
@@alexandermajor6467 I don't like it for a different reason. The best example as to why is seen in a video (though I can't recall which) by garn fora ratch where due to lack of guy point the middle section basically folds half way into the tent during strong winds. That it might hold up is a point but the lack of sleep you'll have is another.
That aside, with respect, I have not read anything by you to explain what it is that: "I don't know what I'm talking about".
As for the Enan being a mountain tent... Hilleberg specifically says that it's not meant for mountain peaks so unless you're referring to sheltered spots it seems I'm not the one who doesn't know what he's talking about.
Also, per the Lanshan, you can find videos by many using it in north England (such as Lake District and Peak District) as well as many who use it in Scotland. If you can find me an example of realistically worse conditions than Scotland and Skye that isn't Mt Everest then I'll consider that a technical loss... but I can't see that you can.
I even seen videos of people using various different configurations of a single mid-pole tent in Scafell Pike. Suffice it to say - they're doing fine.
Look at the video I linked in the initial post and you'll see a Scottish guy who uses those tents in Scottish winter. If you don't understand the implications of that then I suggest you should address your own comment to yourself.
With regards to the zippers, again, Hilleberg themselves admitted it's an issue they haven't fully solved. I never had issues with the zippers in my Staika, that doesn't mean Hilleberg doesn't get issues in general.
There are plenty more points I haven't even went into including the ability to self repair DCF due to its zero stretch and the chemical reaction making the patch a fully bonded piece. This is something you simply can't do with any nylon based material including Kerlon. You'll have to send it to the company for repair.
To each his own. If you're happy with Hilleberg that's great. In my opinion anyone who can't see they're antiquated amongst new technology and new fabrics is simply lacking information.
The Hilleberg Niak works perfectly fine for me during summer.
Too pricey for me. Nice review , honest
That’s a hell of a lot of money for something you’ve found to be so flawed. It would have to be perfect in every way to justify the price tag.
That might go some way towards explaining the high price. Whether it justifies it is entirely subjective. Who wants to pay £600 to get soaking wet in their sleep? From Abbie’s description the tent sounds like it would only work well in quite warm dry and arid weather. I have an old Coleman Rigel X2 (single skin) that has as much space and that I would class in the same category. It weighs less than 1kg and cost about 1/10 of the price ten years ago.
Yeah, it is quite low in height, but theres enough floor space to sleep and fit a decent size pack. Whatever, it’s as good as useless in most Northern European weather because of condensation. It sounds like the one reviewed here is too.
Ridiculous price, so many serious flaws as well. Condensation is all your breath vapour. Get an MSR Hubba NX for 1/3 of the price and have enough change for a nice holiday. Always thought Hilleberg tents are way over priced. There are much better tents out there.
£645 !!! Yikee. Hilleberg make nice tents but they're a tad overpriced methinks.
£600 and you say the poles are weak and can snap easily.... think I’ll stick with my £20 Yellowstone pop up tent which has never let me down.
The poles from the Akto and the Enan are the same. Just another question. Did you just compare a high-end tent to a festival tent? Another question: Would you carry your pop up tent on a 1000 miles-hike?
Hexpeak. That is all.
Mad expensive for what it is.
I’d rather get a old canvas tent...I guess there heavier to carry.
But wouldn’t pay that for a that tbh.
Great tent but the price is ridiculous.£550 to much!
But it's not a great tent. Ventilation is rubbish and the poles are weak. I wouldn't even buy one if it was £25. It just doesn't deliver.
@@alexmorgan3435 The poles of a Hubba NX are weaker, what are you talking about? The whole Hubba NX is weaker than the Enan.
@@kobold90 You clearly own one and don't want to be the fool who bought one. Well you could have kept it quiet but you decided to go public on the internet. Doh!
@@alexmorgan3435 I don't own an Enan. I just compared the numbers.
snug pak
Not a good tent. Damp and easy to damage. I own this tend and have regretted it from the first day I woke up with a wet sleeping bag and heavy wet tent inside and out.
£600!!!!! OMG, No way in a million years is it worth anywhere near that. Gotta love capitalism & consumerism.
"Gotta love capitalism & consumerism".
The biggest reason Hillebergs are pricier than your average tent maker out on the market is that they are made in Europe as opposed to some factory in Asia with abhorrent working conditions and cheap labour. They're a family run company with solid ethical commitments towards the people who make their products, unlike big multi-national conglomerates who solely care about the bottom line and luring in customers in the never-ending price wars. _That_ is the dark side of capitalism and consumerism. Hilleberg has even published a video tour of their factory on their RUclips channel, something you'll never see many other tent makers do.
Love all the kit name dropping.lol. 600 for condensation. You have too much money.
It's so that people can check out the reviews. I am not sponsored by any of the companies I share (Y)
After reviewing your review, it is a waste of money no matter how you big it up.
condinsation issues to that price, it must be a joke
Yes, because in physics the change of a substance from the gaseous (vapor) to the liquide state and the intermolecular forces pulling them together to droplets are in relation to how much you pay for a tent! ;)
what was wrong with the Akto that you already have and is also very expensive
You gave it a rave review
You saving 0.5 kg for the cost of 600 pounds
Perhaps a bit too tied into consumerism
The atko will probably sell for 3-400 and cover a decent chunk of that