Hilleberg Enan vs Hilleberg Akto | Tent Review
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- Опубликовано: 29 авг 2024
- Ever wondered what the differences re between the Hilleberg Enan and Akto? In this video I delve into just that!
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The Enan is only "flimsy" compared to other Hillebergs and four season shelters. Compared to most "3 season" backpacking tents (especially American brands) it's a bomb shelter.
You've got the RIGHT. Plus the Enan can easy peasy be pitched by one person in strong gusty windy conditions because it is designed/engineered so that you pitch the inner & fly simultaneously. There is nothing being sold in America that pitches as easily as a Hilleberg.
@@azclaimjumper look at the Vango F10 tents. They're cheaper but still great. They're actually the ones that originally invented the pitch inner and out together :)
@@supernoodles908 I'll "look" at the Vango F10 tents for my own edification. I know Hilleberg rates their Enan a 3-Season Tent. Compared to other brands, the Enan, in my mind is a 4-season tent for the places I'll be overnighting here in America. I have Hilleberg's footprint for my Enan which is probably overkill in addition to the 70D floor. My Enan has the same floor material as the Akto as of Feb 2020 is when Hilleberg made the switch from a 50D fabric to the 70D fabric on Enan's.
You probably know this Abbie, but the Enan has hidden triangular rain flaps tucked away into a pocket on the apex of the flysheet mesh head/foot ends that unfold & clip to the base of the mesh to rain-seal the mesh to give full weather protection. The guylines are 2mm and 3mm respectively (I clearly need to get out more?! : ). I like the four extra guy line attachment loops at the ends of the Enan which I added lines to. Seeing as I always carry a couple of spare pegs anyway, doing so only requires a further two pegs and shortish lightweight guylines. The Enan's inner mesh door is great for looking out at the moon and stars and just makes it feel more spacious. The Enan's my fave over the Akto - for me anyway!
Excellent review as always Abbie. I've had an Akto for a while now. I used it earlier this year for a couple of nights at 1500 feet in the Scottish Highlands. On the second night the wind was so strong you could barely stay on your feet. The Akto survived with no problem. Glad I bought it.
These reviews are really helpful. Thank you for doing them, Abbie. 👍🙂
I bought an Akto after reading your original review some years ago.
It really is the best and most reliable backpacking tent out there.
Not the lightest but well built and reliable.
Having experienced the tail end of a hurricane in it on an exposed mountainside I can vouch for its strength.
I have upgraded the pegs to Hilleberg Y pegs and have fitted fine mesh screens to the zipped vents at each end to keep the dreaded scottish midge from entering the outer tent.
I have also fitted a footprint groundsheet which provides extra protection to the floor ,a dry floor to the storage area and reduces condensation when pitched on damp ground.
Nice idea with the mesh screens 👍 The lack of this was one of the most important reasons for buying the Enan
Hi Abbie. You can close the vents at the Enan. There are little pockets from the inside with Kerlon to close them
I second this
Id like to mention how closing the Aktos inner tent up completely, using the yellow inner fabric here seen open and rolled up, makes a huge difference when camping in winter. The temperature in the tent stays at a comfortable level, rather than being cold as it would be with just the mesh.
Great to see the two tents side by side! Thanks for a great overview
Hi Abbie! Nice comparison! Two important details you forgot to mention - flaps on the mesh screens sides, for extem weather conditions. And considering about the distance from the head up to fabric, Enan is higher, some people have problems with this.
Is it really higher? Hilleberg says both are 93cm high at the middle of the tent. At the apex of each triangular end the Enan is 35cm. Across the whole width of the rectangular ends the Akto is 30cm high, but it is a longer tent so it is possible to position your head further from the end of the tent where the height is almost the same as the Enan (plus the height is the full width of the tent, whereas the Enan only has the height under the ridge).
I love both of these shelters, and am currently still unsure which one I need more than the other. But love the unique features of both of them, the lightness of the enan, and the robustness, and the rain/vent cover of the akto with the additional strength. I have to be practical though, having just turned 55 years of age with a couple of health issues, I am definitely leaning more towards the enan, just because shaving off that extra 500gms would make a huge difference for me. Trying to find one for sale online now in the UK is the next mission! : (
As of today April 2024, the retail price for the enan is now £790.00 and the akto is around £710.00 so not cheap.
Thank you for reviewing them both : )
Very well and clearly explained. I use the Hilleberg Unna, but the Akto and the Enan certainly are quite interesting tents as well.
Hilleberg tents are expensive but they do have a lifetime guarantee and excellent after-sales support. I have had both o these tents and prefer the Enan personally. Nice vid Abbie very helpful for the undecided.
They dont have a lifetime warranty in the UK. Beware!
Why do you prefer the Enan?
@@PatrickPierceBateman Several reasons including; It's lighter, the inner materials are lighter and less flappy, the ends of the tent have more headroom, fast and easy to pitch.
@@MintOutdoors Interesting. Thanks!
Thanks so much for taking the time to do this! i've been contemplating on which one to buy.
Hey Abbie, thanks for the side by side comparison. It’s a tough call. I guess it depends on what you can live with. Lighter but less robust and more condensation or heavier but with practical features. Myself, I just got an MSR Hubba one person. Just under three pounds weight and not as much space as the Acto, just enough to sleep in but with a decent porch for keeping your gear out of the rain. Cheers from really, really hot Arkansas where my backpacking season is over until at least mid October.
There is a relevant difference between the two tents: The Enan has on both ends just one pole, where the Akto has two poles on each end. When sleeping in the akto in windy circumstances the fabric will constantly touch your face. The distance between your face and the fabric is bigger in the Enan, because both poles are a bit longer and in the middle. This is one of the new redesigned features of the successor of the Akto. Apart from the lesser weight, this was the other reason for me to buy the Enan instead of the Akto. I think both tents are aqually durable. I consider the slightly higher price of the Enan not of great importance, regarding the life expectancy and resell value of both tents.
Another fantastic video abbie.
I've just ordered the enan for my upcoming week long visit to the brecon beacons/black mountains.
I read a lot of comments about the price and different brands if they all keep the rain and wind of great but if the condensation makes your kit wet inside then I may go back to the tarp and a separate ground sheet and bug net all less then 1.9lb at a guess which I used for 5years 😎😎 love the nature
Nice one Abbie , I love my Akto especially for those winter camps and only Paid £475 new inc footprint !!! a bargain a todays prices lol
Always a happy positive space Abbie! 🙂
Hey Abbie, love your vibe! Makes it really fun to watch :) What I missed is way more of your personal experiences with the tents and how they subjectively compare for you (I can still make up my own mind). This is the main reason I'm watching such a video. I'm less interested in plain stats (I can read up on them).
another quality video Abbie, thanks for the in depth and thorough review. I did look at the akto but just couldnt justify the price tag. Went foe the alpkit kangri in the end and i love it, though quite a bit heavier than the two on show here. Thanks again for all your efforts, its very much appreciated. Stay wild!
Hi Abbie, you mentioned the end of the Enan being open. There is a flap of fabric that folds across each vent inside to close it off if needed.
After mulling it over and now having a bit of experience I’ve decided that for backpacking without a base I’d use a tarp-for base camp I’m saving for a nammatj 3. It’ll be a long save! The latter because as well as being very comfortable and relatively light for its size its the one almost everyone says has the best ventilation. Tarping because its a cheap way of being light and also-hugely roomy. Face mask for midges. Being in a little claustrophobic space was fine for a day but when I went in the ionosphere to skye it really was a bit much after a few days. These videos got me thinking so thanks.
I think you missed one feature on the Enan. There is a way of closing the vents in both ends. There is a piece of fabric in a pocket that can close the vents.
hi abbie... ive had / abused my akto 20 yars of personal and instructing work ... great tent! ive also used it with 4 pegs, well.. i lost the pegs so used spoon fork spare pole and a stick. they hold up the tent from the corner guy lines not the corner rings and actually works a treat
got some of your gear akto, thermarest, exos 58 tried it for a spin, but im confident after all the youtube reseach to go out and stay away for extended times or bug out and survive in it.
everything is the bang for the buck or a general standard the way i see it.
Thanks for the advice.
A fistfull of tentbag and a kinda handfull of tentbag. :)
Wow, knew they were expensive ... but not that expensive.
Those prices do put the Zpacks tent prices into perspective.
Thanks for sharing.
I wonder how many Zpacks have been taken on Arctic expeditions?
@@affalaffaa you misunderstand me here. I'm not disputing the 4 seasons capabilities of the Hilleberg gear here. Merely, this is a backpacking channel and from a backpacking perspective most people's expensive dream tent is a Zpacks at £400/£500. My comment was purely referencing that it makes that seem affordable by using a Hilleberg as a backpacking tent.
@@jasonhearne1174 Nah, I understand. Just being a bit facetious is all.
Totally!
And to add a counter balance to the other commenter: ZPacks tents are perfect for the right conditions and so are Hilleberg tents! If you take a ZPacks Plexamid to the Arctic in January you'll be toast. Likewise, if you take a Hilleberg Akto to Death Valley in July you'll also be toast (both carrying the thing and trying to sleep in it!). Horses for courses!
Yup! We're lucky to have the choice.
Thank you very much for the comparison👍🏻👍🏻
Great review. Looks warm outside.
That's a great review. I have the Akto and really like it - though it is on the heavy side for lightweight backpacking. Having just finished The Ridgeway I'm wondering about single skin tents made of dyneema (?) to cut the weight even more for future trips. All the best & Thanks.
Thank you for the great comparison! Two excellent tents from a trusted brand.
Just to say that the Terra Nova Laser Competition 1 is another tent to be considered in this category. It's a time-honoured design (first iteration in 2004) from a UK company. It's 200g lighter and £200 cheaper than the Enan and has more interior height and length in the sleeping area. The porch is narrower but I can get a 60L pack and my footwear in there and still have space to cook. I've had mine for over 10 years and, although I've moved to the other side of the world now and mostly use a bigger and even lighter Zpacks tent these days, I still love my old Laser Comp!
Thanks for the review, Abbie, always been curious about Hilleberg, well respected brand indeed.
However, I also have one of the origional Terra Nova Laser 2's, I am 6'8" and it is good for me, as well as cheaper. I have yet to get wet in it even in Scottish conditions. It does flap around a bit in strong/gale force winds, but I have used it hard for 15 years. Even with a footprint and wet it is still well under 1.75kg. Replaced the strange carbon fibre pegs, which looked like biros, with titanium. The makers have updated the design several times as a result of feedback from users, cost now about £350 plus, new.
Terra Nova have a less expensive range called Wild Country, similar but slightly heavier and less well detailed, but also between 30-50% cheaper.
If I need a 4 season tent, or something with more space I use a Terra Nova Quasar, oddly slightly less waterproof, but fully geodesic, self supporting and can stand up to real gales, second hand Ebay about £170, but I did have to replace one of the 4 poles, heavier at about 4.8 kg.
@@simonholley4110 I've still got an original Wild Country Quasar and can't bear to part with it. Mad heavy though for solo use.
Excellent comparison video. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks Abbie ,I can't afford these but you doing this ,shows me what to look for in a tent when getting my own , and out of all the flaps and ropes and fabrics , the best thing to look out for is the ' Rain peep hole ' on the roof lol , loved it ....Keep it up =-)
Hi Abbie not sure if you’ve tried it but they are designed so you can double up on your poles for extra strength
Nice Video, thanks for that. Greeting from Hamburg
How interesting and well filmed!
Akto is probably overkill unless you're in really snowy or challenging conditions. Had the Enan been available at the time, I would have bought that one. But, I certainly have not been disappointed in the Akto in any way. I like the more simple end pitching on the Enan with the sewn in glass pole sections, but the Akto has a wider foot box if that is important to you. Both can be fitted with an inner mesh tent. No idea why the Enan would be more expensive than the Akto - the Akto is the more robust and stronger tent (Enan isn't weak by any means - plenty strong for a 3 season tent.).
Hillebergs yellow line has it's heavy drawbacks because of the light weight. First of all, the ventilation is fix installed. It does a good job, if you like that or not. It's like a house with allways opened windows. You have to keep yourself warm when it's getting colder. A lesson I learned during the first night in that tent. The next thing I bought was a better sleeping bag. That's the comfort you sacrifice for weight. And the second risk (already adapted and improved but the risk is still there) is the possibility of water, sand and air getting through the ventilation gaps into the tent. And water is something I'm worrying about when it comes to really heavy rains and heavy wind. Let's see if the bathtube floor is high enough for that. These are issues you don't have to deal with the red line. And Hilleberg doesn't do price discrimination. You pay the costs of the tent production, that's it. A red line tent doesn't necessarily mean more working hours (the most important price factor in this tent production). The material is similar expensive. The yellow line isn't worse (and therefore cheaper) than the red or black line. It's just made for other situations.
@@kobold90 Poles, threads, fabric, & zippers are what separate Hilleberg lines. Thicker poles, threads, fabric, & zippers are more expensive than thinner/smaller.
@@azclaimjumper Hilleberg says the Kerlon1000 costs more and is more difficult to sew which is why the Enan costs more.
HI Abbie, I don't know of any other brand of tents that use stronger fabrics? Kerlon is SO STRONG! Can you explain what you meant by that and which tents materials are stronger? Fjallraven? Thanks! Love the vids!
Both nice tents shame about the price. Only thing I would say is for a wild camp alot time you want a small footprint due to some times hard find a large enough camping spot. I my self use a much cheaper smaller jack wolfskin tent good in big storms had in 60moh gusts strong rain and hold out fine. For four season tent I got the mamot grid tent sadly these tents not made any more but still can get them second hand. Richard
You would expect a much stronger pole set for the price they charge ...what's the customer service like if you need replacement etc ? Great reviews Abby
Surely the main reason the Akto is considered four season is that some of its.ventilation is at the top (above the snow) whereas the three season Enan vents would be under the snow?
Hi Abbie, great review! Btw, I'm seeing a used Akto here sold by a local buyer, he's bought it 8 years ago and says has used only for 3 trips. But the flysheet fabric seems quite crumpled. I know this doesn't give a real sense of it's usage. I'd like to know, what should i look to estimate what's the real usage of the tent ? I will check the seams, and if there are deep creases and leaks etc.
A really good perspective video, thank you. Just wondered, what were your reasons for buying the Enan? If the Acto was your favourite tent, what persuaded you to "flash the cash" for a similar, but less spec. product?
Very good review! Thanks from Germany
Hello nice video once again Abbie they only get better but here my problem I borrowed a enan for a few days been light and easy to set up I would put it up there but the condensation was very problematic in fact by the third night I decided to use my gortex bivy bag just so my sleeping bag would stay dry ventilation seems to be the problem I think as it is so low set in the tent so would I spend my money on this tent or look for something like it with better ventilation o the great tent debate😎😎
I literally do the same - bivy in a tent. It's madness!!
Thanks a lot for this nice comparison!
Great review, thank you so much! 2 questions: 1) What do you think, which one is better for taller people especially on a not-so-superthin pad? 2) Is the Akto ok in hot nights or is the enan much better because of the bigger mesh part?
Do you touch the inner tent with your feet when in winter sleeping bag? Seems so little space down there?
Hi Thank you for a very good video. Do they have the same condensation amount, when you have used them?
I would say the Enan is worse actually...!!!
Thank you
Fantastic review
Hi Abbie, love your posts, always. :) I also struggle with mental health issues, and being outdoors 'In The Wild' always helps an incredible amount. I owned a Soulo for a while, which I loved (Hilleberg - the best), but do you think that the Akto can cope with extreme conditions in the way that the Soulo was designed for (even if you haven't owned a Soulo)? What has been your experience of 4 season use with the Akto? Keep posting please - you don't realise how much your positivity in the face of your own struggles helps others. :) x
Abbie can you say more about the rain flap thingy in the Akto? You said you love it, and miss it on the Enan. It would be great to see it in action!
Great video and an in depth review based on experience. I personally use a Hilleberg Soulo as I am not backpacking but bicycle touring so I can afford the extra bit of weight. Chose the Soulo because of the added tolerance to wind. I am from Iceland and its the wind that gets most tents here, so the tents I prefer need to be stable in high winds. Have experienced 60kph wind in the tent and felt completely safe. Think my Soulo can handle a lot more based on how secure it was in that small storm.
Are you aware you can close the mesh on either side of the Enan? from the inside you can take out some fabric and fasten it in the corners
Smashing it abby
Thankyou excellent comparo!
im really tempted to get the enan for this summer. I have a Tarra and a Tarp 5. The tarra is just to heavy for summer use, so i want to combine the enan and tarp 5. so my dog can sleep under the tarp 5 , sort of like a GT enan model. Have you ever tried adding a tarp to the tent ?
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Thanks again that was awesome to see keep up the good work,,, i, love auto,,
I, love,, akto,,,
Had a good look at both these tents but both seem a bit flappy and a wee bit heavy for bike packing. I could imagine you'd be all night trying to stiffen up the Enan and in the Akto I'd just be putting in ear plugs in a gale be pointless trying to quieten it down. Both would probably be fine for backpacking if you are just wandering about even the Enan is really too heavy to race with. On the bike it's all about weight and the lack of it shame cos the quality of both seem outstanding. Thanks for this review though I think I know where I 'm going now.
Apparently "weight" is your primary consideration with absolutely no consideration as to whether or not it will last more than a year before needing to be replaced. Are you replacing a lightweight tent you already have because it failed?
Yes, there numerous tents that are lighter than the Enan; however, in in-in climate weather, where you are dependent on shelter that will stay in place & not get blown apart then the Enan is a bargain because it will provide you shelter for a decade of hard use.
Try pitching those lighter tents in strong gusty winds by yourself. Try pitching the fly on top of a lightweight tent in strong winds; whereas the Enan can easily be pitched by one person in strong gusty windy weather, easy peasy because they are designed so you pitch the inner & fly simultaneously.
Very good review, thx 🙌
Great video, thanks for sharing.
I’m thinking of getting an Akto. Does it need to be seam sealed? It would nice to know before I make a purchase, thanks in advance.
Unfortunately, I can't afford either of these tents. So, would you recommend the Helm Compact 1 or Pioneer 2 ??
I'm not worried about camping in the snow etc
Wow Hilleberg Enan £640 and Hilleberg Akto £585 need a sponsorship...the Force Ten Helium UL 2 man tent is almost the same as these tents and half the price!!
That's like saying my Ford is almost the same as a Ferrari !Very different cars and very different tents
@Pootling along true - all depends on use and I've seen vangos shredded whilst the hilleberg has been undamaged in high winds. My personal use is high mountain camps in Scotland so can be a fairly tough environment which is why I use the Akto - low level summer camps obv wouldn't require the same strength. As for bin bags I expect the level of condensation would see you up and out before the night was through.
Abbie the Enan has a weather proof flap tucked up in each end of the tent that can be dropped down if things get rough.
I have both tents and Akto is far superior and well worth the extra weight. Enan is lighter yes BUT it is NOISY! Any wind at all and you need to be a heavy sleeper, it's like a crisp poke. And as you mentioned price... defo overpriced compared to Akto. If you have one hilliberg tent Akto is the one to have for backpacking all year round. Its windy in summer too ;-)
How do you find condensation and ventilation in the Akto, it does not appear to have much for such a small tent.
How do you find condensation and ventilation in the Akto, it does not appear to have much for such a small tent.
Did she mention the vents of the Enan can be closed?
If feels like a flower petal. 🤠
How about the damp, is it diffrent in the tents?
Hi abbie great video review tnx for sharing, im like yourself I hate experiencing really bad condensation and in my experience it's more common on higher end tents like hilliberg I bought a lightwave tent not cheapest tent in the world but the condensation is a nightmare 😠😠 ironically the cheapest tent I have doesn't suffer any or certainly not bad condensation but weighs a ton and lacks the durability it seems no matter what tent you buy there's a trade off atb Sammy
The door is completely mess 🤣🤣
poncho and bivvy bag and maybe a hammock spring summer and for winter a British army arctic tent( BEST BIT OF KIT EVER HAVE USED ONE IN NORWAY AT -30) then the 2 dag sleep system is great can get the 2 bags and bivvy bag for around £100 its is all you need you don,t need £500+ tents or £200 sleeping bags. and the 120l berghaus cyclops crusader is the best bergan ever made
There is no height on the floor, this is harmful. There must be at least five centimeters above zero.If the door is open all the bugs inside no protection..
... but there is a bathtub floor for the inner tent so there is protection from water and bugs (unless they climb like a slug and then if the inner door is zipped they cannot enter)!
ever considered the naik?
There is a video put out by a Swedish retailer who jokes: If your confused about whether to get an Enan or an Akto-Get a Naik.
"sorry plant"
B-17 flying fortress flow over
7:17 haha ^^
My alto weighs 1.6 kilos
I feel bad for the plant, so unnecessary thing to do
Tarp tent scarp 1 is worth the money and so much better, hillebergs mare taking the p%#@ with there prices now
You must be the owner or a Tarptent employee to attempt to compare a Tarptent to a Hilleberg. Hilleberg tents are REAL shelters for in-climate weather whereas the Tarptents are strictly fair weather wannabeeeees..
Totally overpriced. So many options out there will do the job at half the price
Not as well though, you get what you pay for.
For me, its the 'liveability' of the designs that you're paying top dollar for, not just the quality materials. They are what I call 'invisible gear', as in the amount of times I've pitched either the Enan or Akto at the end of a very long day when completely exhausted and I've barely had to engage my brain, yet I know they're super functional/dependable when I crash.
Compared to Hilleberg, almost any other brand is overpriced. Overpriced means you pay way more than the product actually costs. And that's for sure not the case in Hilleberg tents. If your job is half the action a Hilleberg can deal it, of course you can go for a tent which costs half of a Hilleberg. If you don't need it, don't buy it. Unlike a BMW, a Hilleberg tent doesn't impress anyone. It's something you buy for your comfort, for your safety and for your inner peace. For normal hikes on normal days in normal areas, you're right. There are cheaper and lighter tents.
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