MTA fare evasion pilot program
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- Опубликовано: 28 янв 2024
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Imagine making an EMERGENCY EXIT with 15 sec delay
shit is crazy
They adding lag to what can be needed in case of you know an emergency this surely won't back fire! classic MTA L!
You have the turnstiles you aren’t supposed to be exiting through that gate anyway, and plus you can get more people through the exit turnstiles faster than the emergency exit, since there’s multiple turnstiles and only 1 gate
@@frrrfrrr9177i think u misunderstood the word “EMERGENCY” 😂😂😂😂
@@realtaim3759 again if, there was a mass emergency, you can only fit so many people through that door at once, vs the 5-10 turnstiles they have at the stations, giving more output than a narrow door.
Here's a crazy idea... Hire back the MTA employees who used to be in every station and controlled the locking and unlocking of the gates. It worked like a charm back then, and it can work again. I don't think their payroll was equal to the $1.6 billion lost over the last 2 years to fare evasion.
They are old or dead
They didn't do nothing but sit in the booth. That door has been automatic since like year 2000
@@JuanJDumeP Tell me you know how entry door buzzers work. Not to mention, when you have an MTA employee right in front of the fare turnstile, only the most common of common denominator are most likely not to care and bypass paying a fare.
@@mc1993 oh believe me I know how an electromagnet works bud, not sure if you watched the video but these rats are hopping in front of the police.... You think a booth person who's probably going to be too busy playing candy crush on their phone is going to change anything? Funny guy
@@JuanJDumeP No need for 50 to do anything. The clock ticks down. Up next, get ready for AI facial recognition. Trailblazed off the back of license plate cameras at ez pass toll booths.
These are the fools that want to steal $15 from a daily toll below 60th and all within lower Manhattan from all of us that drive here.
SO NO EMERGENCY EXIT IF EVERYONE HAS TO RUSH OUT GREAT
Not safe to delay the emergency exit
Subway in New York is the most inclusive place on earth. You will see homeless, brokens, and ppl making 200k evading the fare together.
They all can agree on one thing that 2.75 ain’t worth it
@@GamingWithMB $2.90
@@GamingWithMBthey can walk.
And they all get what they pay for
Blame the law makers who allowed refugees into new York and cut hours for city and state workers to support the refugees.... Smfh
Now I will sue MTA for making emergency exit hard to use.
You won’t get anywhere fast with that
@@glamslamcamlol when there's another shooter on the train like last year mta will get more lawsuits 😂 15 secs in an emergency is literally life vs death
@@weaveandwelfaretookblackme and there are turnstiles they can use to run from the situation.
Try to use turnstiles when people run in panic. It's a chaos. @@glamslamcam
Or they can go back to pre 2002 emergency doors and buzz in and out
Those were the days.
i dont think it is a good idea. Its an emergency exit, it needs to be quick.
Not only that. Mothers with strollers, people in wheelchairs??! It’s an emergency exit! There people are slow!!!
Now all you gotta do is come up with a “brilliant” idea to make your riders feel SAFE😒
Preventing fare evasion is one of the big ways to do just that.
@@glamslamcamit's actually not 😂
@@weaveandwelfaretookblackme and how do you know this?
Imagine a mass shooting happening and theirs a 15 sec delay for the emergency exit
You guys, they wait 15 second to open..
But they are stupid to not know that when it's open, it can stay open for more than 15seconds.
So you’re telling me an emergency gate won’t be able to be opened in an emergency all to save a few dollars? MTA can find new ways to stop fare evasion but can’t find ways to install platform screen doors or improve delays. They’re gonna have to pay up even more than what they’re losing when that 15 second delay becomes a liability in an emergency situation. All in the name of the dollars.
A few dollars? More like $600 million annually which can be used for safety upgrades and accessibility.
@@jz3430 compared to the MTAs operating budget of $19B and the money they receive annually from taxpayers and the tolls they collect from multiple bridges and tunnels, yes “a few dollars”. Thanks for backing a multibillion dollar corporation that builds fences as “platform screen doors”, has yet to renovate the infamous Chambers St station and yet this cash strapped agency still complains about not having enough money. Toodeloo.
Somehow my reply got deleted, must’ve pissed off an MTA big wig so I’m posting it again.
Compared to the MTA’s operating budget of $19B and the money they receive annually from taxpayers and the tolls they collect from multiple bridges and tunnels, yes "a few dollars".
Thanks for backing a multibillion dollar corporation that builds fences as
"platform screen doors", they have yet to renovate the infamous Chambers St station and this cash strapped agency still complains about not having enough money. Toodeloo.
Screen doors are unable to be placed because the older trains have different doors trains than the new techs
No they are not telling you that. The stations where this is being implemented have turnstiles next to the gate where you can quickly exit
Not gonna make a difference. After the 15 second delay, gate fly open and 50 people rush in
I refuse to (consistently)pay the fare when there's constant homeless people in the station, taking up seats on the train and Constant delays with busses and trains. They make bullsh*t improvements to the stations. I dont see where the money that NYers pay to help improve the MTA to service us.
THOSE ARE HS STUDENTS THEY HAVE A PASS
They even have the student mta card. Why are they even using the emergency exit.
Okay, so how does delaying work for anyone except inconveniencing those who are paying? Do they even realize that they're busy stations you can't leave by the turnstile and have to use the emergency exit just to get out during peak hours.
Paying twice cause our taxes fund the mta then we have to pay to actually travel too
I was been double charged by MTA one ride at lees 5 minutes and my money still doesn’t comeback to my bank account yet😊
This is unacceptable
That always happens
WIth all the taxes I pay and it's all going towards the migrants and other countries like Ukraine the transit system should at least be free.
Don’t forget 🇮🇱
If the migrants ran the transit system, that would sound perfectly reasonable.
you right! @@SincereRz
How about MTA anti-corruption program?
uhh aren't emergency exits for emergencies??? so you're telling me you gotta wait 15 seconds in an emergency? someone gonna get hurt. regardless if being misused as an exit all the time.
All this does is harm people in wheelchairs who are already struggling to get through those doors... And are technically who those doors are for in the first place
Smh so make it harder for strollers and handicap
This incompetent the people who are doing the fare invasion are on the otherside of the gate and have no problem waiting for the door open
I BET they get sued when something happens like a person being attacked cant get away ffrom a criminal lol...
Just enforce the LAW, it costs nothing and actually makes money
I use to pay but now I'm playing an illegal Alien and jumping until I get my money's worth for delays and the games played letting the machines go out of service except single rides sales that cost more than a regular ticket.
Yeah sounds GREAT KEEP ON STEALING. WALK PAST THE BUS OPERATOR ALSO WITH "I NEED A RIDE". DID YOU KNOW BAD THINGS HAPPEN TO PEOPLE WHO SIN?
TRUE.
@@livenykeep crying
I see someone's been paying attention 💯
@@livenyjee what a crybaby how long you been working for the mta?
@@liveny you simple-minded, one finger all caps typing biblical jkachass.. MTA owes me. And I said what I meant, and I meant what I said. And the fact I was exposed to toxic smoke from a brake fire trapped in a car when the idiot stopped the train in a tunnel less than a football field from the station instead allowing and emergency evac timely, MTA about to get some papers forwarded to them.
I’m actually thankful that the Mta only has jurisdiction in the New York area as well as the New York City area because they are so corrupt and I am thankful that they are nowhere else in the country at this point seriously
I believe Overtime abuse need to Stop in MTA weather it's Subway or Commuter rail. Folks who do theft of Service are being given tickets and when MTA employee abuse their Time sheet they are being written up not even firing the employee for abusing the Timesheet.
MTA = MONEY TAKING AGENCY
😝
😂😂😂 Good one!
Most tracking agency as well
So now people are aware cause they geniuses announced it. So now people are just going to wait the 10-15 seconds for the gates to open. Another brilliant idea from the MTA 🙄
most of the ppl going through the emergency exit are young ppl who don’t have to pay anyway….
The little girl is the only one who can't pay but the grown teens have to pay I was around that age in 2011 and 2012 some school's didn't give school passes and most of us had to pay
Doesn’t mean they shouldn’t use their Student Metrocards anyway.
@@glamslamcamthey parents take it from them to use it.
The MTA have a FLOOD OF MONEY to SPEND ON NONSENSE!!
Well done,Keep raising the fairs it’s ok
lol
NOT SAFE AT ALL!!!! HOW YOU GONNA MAKE AN EXIT OPEN WITH A TIME DELAY... EMERGENCY EXIT THEY SAID... YA'LL DON'T KNOW HOW TO RUN SHIT. THAT'S WHY WE AIN'T PAYING
More ways to take everybody's money.
Time delay on emergency exit is hazardous and puts the public at risk.
Lmao everyone does it huh
It’s New York bro😂
No. Only assholes evade the fare. Are you in that category?
Does this violate some kind of FDNY statute?
With the trains being so delayed, NYers don't mind waiting extra 15seconds to save nearly $3
ha-ha-ha
The trains are delayed, because the system is old, but people fair evading isn’t going to allow the system to expand and be better and make the system safer.
RIGHT HERE THEY NEED TO PUT N.Y.P.D. POLICE TRANSIT 🚇🚇🚇 DISTRICT COPS 👮♀️ 👮♂️ 🚔 INSIDE THE SUBWAY TRAIN 🚇🚇🚇 STATION CAB 🚇 CARS NOT AT THE TURNSTYLES WHERE YOU SCAN & $$$ PAY 2.90 CENTS WITH YOUR OMNY SCANNER CARD PASS AND.
And how this supposed to stop fare evasion?🤔
Why dont you just station someone at the exit?
This is lunacy!! If there’s a real emergency that 15 seconds can be life or death.. imagine the fire department conducts a rescue operation and have to wait 15 seconds to get the person out or worst if there’s an attack of any kind on the subway that flood of people can’t get though the turn style that fast and that 15 second delay could cause a stampede.. The MTA isn’t losing money.. it’s already expensive for NYers to live here.. regular everyday NYers should ride the train and subway for free or $1 and tourists and visitors pay regular price.
Let the cops profile the Jordan Neely type who are known to jump the turnstile.
This racism is what causes the spiral of abuse
I like how I usually see hundreds of illegal immigrants evading fares daily and in this clip they decided to show black school kids.
How is it an emergency exit if it takes 15 seconds to open? How the fuck did that get approved? Oh, of course, payoffs.
Wow . Great idea guys.
I'm from Germany (no gates) and I would never use the subway here without a ticket because they inspect really often and you have to pay 60€ and leave the train if caught evading the fare. It's just very awkward to get caught. When I'm in NYC I usually just go through the emergency exit door, really no one cares, even if this very loud alarm sounds. I would say that fare gates actually lead to more fare evasion if they are that easy to beat.
Yeah ok, NYorker will wait 15 seconds then proceed
But what about riders with shopping carts and strollers 🤦🏽♂️
This will do little, but it will inconvenience your paying customers. As long as a society has people in it who think it is ok to steal, they will steal. And further if the thieves go unpunished they will become a glaring advertisement for others to start stealing (crime pays if there is no punishment).
Scary ass
America was stolen 😮😮😮😮😮😮 shut up all steal even you
I agree the mta full of thieves
You're still going to lose money. But you know how to recoup by raising fares and congestion pricing.
They'll go to any length to avoid actual enforcement.
It’s a matter of integrity. Either your honest or your a thief. I have pride in my life and the things I have accomplished being an honest person.
So true!!! I have worked very hard for decades and everything I own I worked for and I’m proud of it!
In NYC, you are a part of the 'other 1%' Glad to know others are out there.
YOUR NOT STEALING IF YOU ALREADY PAID FOR IT THROUGH TAXES.
Want a cookie
that 15 second delay will cause someone with a disability who is in danger to not reach safety
MTA should FREE 4 WHO LIVING IN NYC 🎉😂
Free as in other people paying for you ?
If Poor/Low-income Nyers get the fair fares program
MTA needs to be audited and then the government needs to take full control of it instead of letting these morons run it. You dont see these problems in places like japan and the fare is even lower there.
They didn't have slavery on the scale that we did.
Japan is a monocultural country. 98.5% are Japanese who are not trying to usher in socialism.
Fire hazard. 😂
All Walk to work, in streets... have 0 cars in City. ...
And Take out all Trap Gates in subways.
Freedom the People.
Those doors going to end up closing on my fingers while I'm using it the right way.
So what about people in wheel chairs, walkers, shopping carts etc?
doing anything to these emergency gates is gonna be a disaster when an actual emergency happens.
Based on this video .....By enacting this new program, the emergency door is no longer an "emergency door." This imposes a serious risk and exposes the city to more liability (liability that New Yorkers will have to pay for in the long run). Imagine trying to leave through the "emergency door," but it won't open because it's on a timer. It certainly defeats the purpose of the door and leaves one fleeing an actual emergency with limited options.
just by this video it's mostly by one demographic. just bring back stop and frisk.
@@Gravesend83all New Yorkers skip on paying the fare if the opportunity is there. Poor people who live in Gravesend should get stop and frisked for being a danger to the well off Manhattanites though…/s
Agree; putting a timer on the emergency door is a dumb idea. What if you are being pursued? By a criminal? Or what if you need the extra time bc you are in a wheelchair or have lots of children? Or a child in a stroller with two more in tandem? I think it’s a dumb idea. And a waste of time. For everyone.
Maybe if people didn’t do the wrong thing with the Emergency Doors, we wouldn’t have to be talking about this in the first place.
@@glamslamcam yes, wouldn't it be wonderful with no crime and a perfect world..../s
NEW YORKERS SHOULD NOT HAVE TO PAY, WE PAY ENOUGH TAXES AND YOU GIVE IT AWAY TO OTHER COUNTRIES...
When a terrorist attack happens and those gates are locked, MTA is going to be forced to go back to IRT & BMT
Exactly
can't believe we even have to pay for PUBLIC transportation
Want us to pay but them machines taking our money. And take months to get a MetroCard back
What they don't tell you is, during the 15 sec delay, subway staff is buzzing the cops to alert them, then they will bust your azz.
Spoken like someone who doesn't ride the train. If you had any clue, you would know cops aren't concerned with fare evaders. Matter of fact, they'll open the gate for you if you ask. Do you work for the MTA? Cause you're as clueless as them
@@DTA-dh5rk ha-ha pretending you know something about a stranger on the internet, what they do or don't do. You sound desperate for attention, and moreover, you're a waste of air.
is this still happening till today? such evaders in NYC
This obviously the biggest Joke of the night will thank you transit I needed this laugh 😂😂😂😂 meanwhile they complaining about losing money but won’t step to make the bus service better, and they not doing enough to stop all these derailments, and people keep jumping the damn tracks, which disrupts service, and more other B.S. that going in the subway I don’t see them tackling too much on those problems, but when they looking bad, they have to find a way to bounce back and look good what a joke of the night, I’m going bed so peace ✌️
THEY BETTER MAKE THE TURNSTILES A PERMANENT POST FOR AN ARMED GUARD BECAUSE US NEWYORKERS IS NOT PLAYING OR PAYING.... FROM MY OBSERVATION........ REMODEL THE TRAIN STATION THEN PPl might pay!!!
THEY BETTER MAKE THE TURNSTILES A PERMANENT POST FOR AN ARMED GUARD BECAUSE US NEWYORKERS IS NOT PLAYING OR PAYING.... FROM MY OBSERVATION........ REMODEL THE TRAIN STATION THEN PPl might pay!!!
THEY BETTER MAKE THE TURNSTILES A PERMANENT POST FOR AN ARMED GUARD BECAUSE US NEWYORKERS IS NOT PLAYING OR PAYING.... FROM MY OBSERVATION........ REMODEL THE TRAIN STATION THEN PPl might pay!!!
THEY BETTER MAKE THE TURNSTILES A PERMANENT POST FOR AN ARMED GUARD BECAUSE US NEWYORKERS IS NOT PLAYING OR PAYING.... FROM MY OBSERVATION........ REMODEL THE TRAIN STATION THEN PPl might pay!!!
THEY BETTER MAKE THE TURNSTILES A PERMANENT POST FOR AN ARMED GUARD BECAUSE US NEWYORKERS IS NOT PLAYING OR PAYING.... FROM MY OBSERVATION........ REMODEL THE TRAIN STATION THEN PPl might pay!!!
Fulton has hundreds of them every single day from early morning to evening and they are not doing anything. They just look at them while we are paying
Sounds like your problem
Yes we have all seen it
So if there is a REAL EMERGENCY, Imma be stuck trying to get out!!! Money surely cant buy intelligence. That means, I can sue the MTA now. The EMERGENCY door no longer functions as an EMERGENCY door.
1:50 did that female go back out to pay because she thought maybe the footage was taken and she was gonna get arrested ?😂😂
Yes they need to pay their fare
Something tells me this is not going to work.
Emergency Exit with a 15 sec delay in a real life emergency like terror is good, I see lawsuits coming
There losing money because they let migrants ride the bus for free they need to work on better transportation services
Facts they do need to make it better!!!
Fare evasion has no effect on the city. So deplorable to pay millions of dollars for a system to make traveling harder for NYC residents
People will move faster to jump 🦘 this is NYC hot messsssssss
The code was easier than anticipated 😅
This is not gonna change a thing .... Life always finds a way
Great. More inconvenience. Good job, MTA
No matter what the New York metropolitan transportation authorities do, somebody in New York city is obviously gonna jump turnstile and get on the bus for free. That's just a matter of fact of life. Over 8 million people live in New York City whatever tactics that they're gonna be using It still will be broken as a damn broken deal.
Now people will just put something to prop the door open so it doesn't close. Stop with the band-aids and lip service. Just fix the problem
How about using the NY national guard to monitor subway fare evasion. It would be cheaper than police officers and net more revenue. If you control the fare evasion I have no doubt you will also control the shoplifting.
Seems like they're always spending more effort & money on this than actually making better service
Until someone dies from the 15 seconds delay.
It’s emergency exits! If it’s an emergency 15 sec is life or death … ppl getting trampled
This reminds me of the booke 'The Republic' by Plato. Two main questions in the book are 'What is justice?' & would people be just if they knew they could get away with it?
Here's your answer.
Well the paying customers are opening the gate for everyone.
Stop calling us customers. Call us by riders, passengers, commuters. By calling us customers, you're basically saying all you care about and want is OUR money. Which yall already do anyway- MAKE TRANSIT FREE
The fair is too high
Because of the fare evaders and mismanagement.
It's not like people will need emergency exit..
This New York where you'll to wait 15 seconds to exit as a crazy person run around with a knife... 😒
Clean the subway like you did with COVID-19 make sure the homeless isn't sleeping in the seats as a bed ,keep people off the train with mental problems keep at least two police in every other train cart not two on a train two every other train cart leave the people hustling food etc there be shit on the seats and the smell is no joke give NYC free trains you can afford it cause it's going to SHIT ❤️💚💛 praying for we need better we deserve better
Another waste od my tax dollars. Where is my vote? Where is the people’s choice not a ceo or president. We use the system not their asses
In an emergency this whole cost human lives. The MTA is putting profit over safety again.
And what if yoyre trying to run from a robber or rapist? Or fire???
Go through the turnstile
This is dumb for several reasons picture an emergency and you need that gate to be open instantly, 15 seconds can cause someone they life but I guess it’s more about saving a dollar versus a life. I see a big lawsuit coming MTA