Transmasculine vs. Trans Male

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  • Опубликовано: 5 янв 2021
  • Hey guys I wanted to share my experience with going back and forth the transmasculine and trans male identities. Please leave a comment if you had similar experience or other thoughts on this 😁

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  • @kindbloodedArlanna
    @kindbloodedArlanna 3 года назад +78

    I also feel the same! I'm identifying as transmasculine because sometimes I feel masculine-aligned but other times I feel like a "blob" that's just existing.

  • @danadess
    @danadess Год назад +14

    I can relate to this so much. Even though my identity is super masculine, I balk away from calling myself a man because I find toxic masculinity so offensive and I don't want to associate with that. Instead, I connect with what I consider real masculinity, which is about protectiveness, selflessness, bravery, providing for others, and being respectful and humble around women. Ironically, I feel a lot of cis men don't "get" masculinity.

  • @Z5Z5Z5
    @Z5Z5Z5 2 года назад +17

    I feel transmasc but definitely not a trans man. I don't mind people thinking I'm a guy but I go by she/her

  • @singsongdiva3896
    @singsongdiva3896 2 года назад +31

    As a non-binary gender fluid person I have been feeling more trans 🏳️‍⚧️ and wanting to be more Masculine but the fluid part of me also still likes Some feminine things but I don’t like she/ her and idk if I’m trans man but I do feel vibes from trans masculine while keeping my other Labels cuz I feel if I go full trans man I wouldn’t be able to be gender fluid or wouldn’t know how to be more fluid with myself

  • @carterscott2314
    @carterscott2314 3 года назад +46

    I feel the same way. It’s hard for me to identify as “male” or “a man” when that’s not the way I was raised or socialized. Also I don’t really want to or feel the need to identify with the binary that’s caused so much harm/dissonance for us of trans experience.

    • @roxywyndham
      @roxywyndham 2 года назад +1

      Yes!

    • @MADOUT_VPS
      @MADOUT_VPS Год назад

      U can’t identify as what I’m born u can only assume and overthink

  • @sylvanwho176
    @sylvanwho176 2 года назад +15

    Love this--thank you so much for sharing! I relate to that feeling of being transmasc but not necessarily identifying as a transman. It has been very confusing for me to want to be transmasculine... but not feel like I am transitioning to be a Man.

  • @goldfishcrackers9419
    @goldfishcrackers9419 3 года назад +16

    I feel exactly the same way. Thanks for putting it into words for me.

  • @manuelalandi5819
    @manuelalandi5819 2 года назад +7

    Elliot i''m feeling the SAME, when you talk about your situation i can completly understand btw i hope u figured out and thank u so so much for this video now i feel less alone

  • @rmill4109
    @rmill4109 2 года назад +22

    I’m pre t and I hear a lot of gender identity and gender expression things. And i know i want to express looking like a male but I don’t know if I want to identify as one, yet I wouldn’t care if people around me identified me as one. But for myself I’d still have in the back of my head I’m not a actual male. So I get worried that because I feel that way maybe I shouldn’t transition incase it offends trans men.

    • @ellioterickson4326
      @ellioterickson4326  2 года назад +7

      You can always experiment trying names/pronouns and have people you trust use them to see how you really feel about it. Gender is a complex thing to figure out so take your time figuring out what works best for you :)

  • @alexisrivera1933
    @alexisrivera1933 4 месяца назад +1

    this is so refreshing to hear and know that there’s other people who feel this way, wish i had friends that were going through this so we could get through it together

  • @mycahsmithson2900
    @mycahsmithson2900 3 года назад +10

    You make perfect sense and I feel very similar.

  • @XercinVex
    @XercinVex 2 года назад +6

    I feel you on the “living 23 years as” part. I often wonder how much different my life would have been if I had the words, and the resources that younger generations have now. I know I’m not “old” by any means, I’m almost 33, and I came out as trans around 25 because I finally had the vocabulary and courage to explain my feelings. Is there any point for us to dwell on the hypotheticals? We are who we are partly because of when we are. That’s why different generations have different terminology and different experiences even within identity groups. Someone who identifies as a trans who was alive in the 1970s would have a totally different experience than a trans person born in 1990 or even 2000.

    • @ellioterickson4326
      @ellioterickson4326  2 года назад +1

      I definitely agree. I often think too how my childhood/teenage years would’ve been like if I had the same resources as kids today. There was such a small definition and little representation of being trans back when we were kids

  • @chrismasalaseg
    @chrismasalaseg 2 года назад +8

    I feel the same, I don't consider myself transman but I do identify as transmasc and I'm still agender, but prefer people to see me as a man or Gender-less. It's complicated. But you are not alone.

    • @4sh451
      @4sh451 Месяц назад

      Me too !!!

  • @tyedie723
    @tyedie723 2 года назад +4

    It's so validating to see this video and all these comments. I feel this exact thing. Thank you for putting this into words!

  • @feec4900
    @feec4900 3 года назад +3

    Have felt the exact same way for a number of years, thanks for expressing this all so well!

  • @mycahsmithson2900
    @mycahsmithson2900 3 года назад +23

    I think I don’t align with males because healthy masculine isn’t a norm and I don’t feel connected to the tonix traits. I agree that I do like to be seen as male. Thanks for the video!

  • @amyn3262
    @amyn3262 Год назад +1

    This has helped me so much today thanks for sharing your story!

  • @deanobanino4525
    @deanobanino4525 Год назад

    Needed this today thank you for sharing your process ♡

  • @sofieeifertingerofficial
    @sofieeifertingerofficial 2 месяца назад

    Thank You for sharing Elliot!

  • @cgray9964
    @cgray9964 3 года назад +15

    I once asked a masculine female who had no plans to take T or to have her chestage altered what it is that makes her masculine. She told me she had no problem with her female "bits" but that she just feels masculine, not feminine and that she never wanted to become a man.

    • @trystensilver6434
      @trystensilver6434 3 года назад +11

      That’s gender expression, not gender identity. They aren’t the same thing. Any gender can PRESENT as any other gender. Presentation doesn’t change your gender. Gender is what you see yourself as so that individual you just described is a masculine presenting cis-gender female. Being a trans person or non-binary is different.

    • @saggguy7
      @saggguy7 2 года назад +5

      it’s not really for any of us to say exactly what it is that makes this person masculine. But whether or not you have a problem with your “bits” isn’t what determines your gender identity.

  • @tysunambres3160
    @tysunambres3160 2 года назад +4

    I identify as Two-Spirited (Indigenous Lineage) and TransMasculine

  • @roxywyndham
    @roxywyndham 2 года назад +2

    I'm genderfluid and I identify as transmasculine because i don't see myself as a male or man but i want to be more masculine. Thats why i started T.

  • @tris.safi0414
    @tris.safi0414 11 месяцев назад +2

    Here's the thing. I'm afab, and I've identified as nb in the past, then a girl again, but I'm confused now. I feel fine with being a woman, and being called she/her, but I also like they/them pronouns. He/him is ok too I guess. I want to have a masculine body, and present very masculine, but I want to be masculine feminine, if that makes sense. I'm envious of guys like Kurtis Conner who are masculine but can still present femenity. Ugh dude, my gender is so confusing.

  • @purplekitten6637
    @purplekitten6637 2 года назад

    I feel the same way. I always prefer to present masculine, but I have moments when I feel very gender-neutral, when I feel this state of being in-between, and other moments when I align myself more with maleness. I do see myself as being closer to a guy than to a girl but I don't fully identify as either. I also have fluctuating dysphoria; sometimes I absolutely hate my chest and other times I'm more indifferent to it. Some days I'm more concerned with passing as a guy than other days. Some days I wish I were seen as myself rather than as any gender and wish to ditch all labels, while on other days nothing would validate me more than being seen and addressed as a guy.

  • @poisonedpaints5509
    @poisonedpaints5509 3 года назад +4

    similar experience to this

  • @kuuderecrackers1339
    @kuuderecrackers1339 4 месяца назад

    I've had a difficult road with gender identity because I didn't mind being perceived or referred as female but I feel so much euphoria when I get called he/they I was always extremely apathetic towards my sex but I heavily disliked being feminine, and that's how I found out I'm Transmasc non binary w/o gender dysphoria

  • @ibdora05
    @ibdora05 2 года назад +1

    I FEEL THE EXACT SAME WAY

  • @samuelforesta
    @samuelforesta 3 года назад +6

    What is the difference between the two? I've heard both terms, but I never understood what the difference was between them.

    • @ellioterickson4326
      @ellioterickson4326  3 года назад +12

      I really wish I mentioned the difference in this video lol Trans Male means someone assigned female at birth identifies as binary male whereas trans masculine is more of an umbrella term for those assigned female at birth to identify more with the masculine side of the gender spectrum but may not necessarily identify as binary male.

    • @happinesspridejoy7394
      @happinesspridejoy7394 3 года назад +1

      I was confused about this too because I’m ftm but also (atm at least) nb as well. So is that transmasc or can you be NB and a transman?

    • @happinesspridejoy7394
      @happinesspridejoy7394 2 года назад +1

      @Xochitl Fuchs thanks fam! I’ve since been identifying as genderfluid between NB and trans guy 👍🏼

  • @sj187
    @sj187 8 месяцев назад

    I'm transmasculine. Because I trees like a guy and intend to attract straight female, as a masculine role in a relationship.
    Would you say I'm lesbian?

  • @merielacsamana7252
    @merielacsamana7252 2 года назад +3

    hey, ive been confused ever since. and i identify myself as trans man. but also have a feeling of being a genderfluid. i dont know if i act feminine sometimes because of my soroundings and how i want to blend in and feel normal. but at the same time i experience gender dysphoria and i feel like a guy thats in the wrong body. i use he they pronoune for now. ive thought abt transitioning but since now im not the person i want to b yet. i tend to act feminine towards people. im just really confused because im not really sure if i really am a trans man since i tend to act feminine some times. but i really feel like a guy in me

    • @merielacsamana7252
      @merielacsamana7252 2 года назад +1

      i see myself as male and i want to b seen to others as male. but i also have this femine side of me that just somehow comes out but im not really sure if its how i really am or its just because its how people see me so i act that way.

    • @ellioterickson4326
      @ellioterickson4326  2 года назад +1

      @@merielacsamana7252 You don't need to act masculine in order to be a guy. There are plenty of trans and cis men that act what society considers to be feminine. Figuring out if you should transition can be confusing and there shouldn't be any rush to decide. At the end of the day, only you can make the best judgment whether or not transitioning is right for you.

  • @Haferkoko
    @Haferkoko 10 месяцев назад

    This really made me question whether I really identify as a binary man... I don't dress like any of the cis guys I see and I don't submit to the idea of being the classic image of a man, despite wanting to be seen as a guy and using he him pronouns. Thank you for this video!

  • @Sumppluvme
    @Sumppluvme 2 года назад +4

    I feel like it is apart of the trans experience tbh. The fact you lived as a female and are changing that May cause an imbalance mentally

  • @danadess
    @danadess Год назад

    For the record, it is not in your head. These pressures and stereotypes are very real.

  • @SummerYazz85
    @SummerYazz85 2 года назад +1

    😻😻😻👍💜

  • @Forevermattel
    @Forevermattel Год назад

    I do sometimes feel like a male and nonbinary

  • @worryingis4losers
    @worryingis4losers Год назад

    BRUH I fir into a masculine gender role and when I introduce myself as a girl the social steryopes gets to me. Cuz Im gender fluid

  • @klousmacgregor3835
    @klousmacgregor3835 2 года назад +1

    what you described sounds like your a demiboy. sometimes nonbinary sometimes a man, sometimes a mixture of the 2. for me I use he/they pronouns but I know some people prefer to sometimes be refered to as he/him and other times they/them.

  • @Humannbeing
    @Humannbeing 2 года назад +5

    I think maybe you are focussing too much on becoming a guy, and having others see you as a guy. Just become you, and have people receive you as you. Once you just let go of trying to become someone you will become who you are. Because who you are is just who you are; without reaching for a goal (to a certain extent, there are very much healthy ways to actively change as a person). If it's any constellation; to me, you sound like a non binary person
    . But when you focus too much on the labels you start to strive to become something rather than being yourself so keep that in mind. I wish you luck in finding yourself and hope my comment helps.

  • @Zak-tk8wv
    @Zak-tk8wv Месяц назад

    Americans and their obbession with gender

  • @michaellippard6107
    @michaellippard6107 Год назад

    I knew instantly your biological sex instantly. I asked myself how, and the first thing that came to mind was the look in your eyes. That's as vague as can be, but that's where it started. Also, there is something in the manner of facial expressions that's at work there: The best way to think of all of this is from the point of view of a gestalt; here I reference the definition of the term as "symptom-picture." The word "symptom" is, perhaps, better rendered as "characteristic" for the purposes of this post.
    So think of gestalt as "characteristic-picture." The idea is that there is an overall impression comprised of MANY tiny pieces, any one of which is insignificant, but which, when taken as a whole, result in masculine or feminine expression.
    I am a heterosexual man; my chromosomal type is XY, if that helps. My question to you would be, "Why do you want to be a man?" This isn't a mean-spirited question. I wonder where the desire comes from; that's all.
    I assume that you prefer sex with homosexual women with an XX-chromosomal type. I've listened to some testimonies of persons such as yourself, and there seems to be something of a theme of expectation vs reality when it comes to being a man. If you feel inclined to answer here, that would be welcomed.

  • @MADOUT_VPS
    @MADOUT_VPS Год назад

    Wtf wtf wtf wtf