Why would you transition if you're nonbinary?
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- Опубликовано: 26 авг 2024
- Easily this was the most asked topic on my last video about this, and if I'm being honest it was also a question I had to ask myself many times over while I was deciding if HRT and transiting was right for me. I think it's a very normal question for us to ask ourselves and I hope by talking about my own experiences (and doubts and worries) I can help others who may be having the same internal debate.
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As a non-binary person you really captured my feelings and thoughts and were able to speak them in a way I’ve been struggling to. I brought up using HRT at the beginning of the year and I felt like I had to shove myself into a strictly masculine box to do so and that’s not what I wanted.. so thank you so much for sharing your experience with the world, I really really appreciate it♥️
Haven’t watched the video yet, but I’m non binary and transitioning as well!! I also consider socially transitioning to be part of my transition as well as the medical aspects.
This just seems like total confusion...
I hope you get the help you Really need
Wanting to look feminine in a masculine way is the exact way I describe how I feel. I plan to go on T and to get top surgery, but I want to have a more overall feminine frame of my body. I’m agender and I want to look more androgynous in the face, but I definitely do feel like in terms of my gender expression I lean more feminine. The biggest change I’m looking forward to when I eventually go on T is for my voice to get deeper, not to the point where it’s a super dramatic difference, but a more in between point. And also some facial hair. I feel the same about not wanting to be on T for the rest of my life. Thank you so much for sharing your experience as a non-binary person taking T, it really helps to make me feel more validated cuz I definitely had some points where I wondered if I was faking it since I don’t want to fully transition
I came out as gender fluid in high school, then as agender and started hrt in 2018. I've been on it since and have gone through so many beautiful changes and I've never been happier. Everyone is different and so are our journeys
As a mama of transfolk, and a body piercer I really was excited to watch this. I've been a transhumanist for much of my life. My brother was born with a genetic illness and has since deceased, but his life heavily influenced my desire to see people have an ability to change their physical reality in ways that benefit their lives. Your explanation of your transition and your outlook on your experience so far has been affirming to my lifelong pursuit. I'm sharing this with my oldest who has really shifted between fem/masc since he/they was little, because I feel like it's a loving space for their expression. Thank you!
Its great to hear your perspective, Just Cis male myself but trying to get a better understanding of topics such as gender. This was an enlightening experience. Really enjoy your videos!
I always LOVE hearing other nonbinary folks talk about their experience within being nonbinary - you said your experience with it is that of fluidity/fusion between genders. I love that, I love that for you and I love that you're exploring and talking about what that is for you! Meanwhile mine is that of being outside gender like you mentioned - I'm very comfy underneath the umbrella of agender, and I have been utilizing body mods (and more recently heavier mods) to achieve my feelings "otherness" which I really revel in. I enjoy the idea of being ethereal, otherworldly, etc...and yet, piercings/body modifications have been INTEGRAL to us both. Super fucking love that. Thanks for this video Lynn.
Piercings and heavy mods can be SO otherworldly. And there’s something magical about crafting our own bodies with metal and skin that’s super rad. Even though we have different relationships with gender I think we both explore piercings and body mods from a similar place of intentionality and transformation. That’s so rad and I hope you continue on your journey through them!
Honestly what held me back from coming out for a long time was that I wasn’t a binary man or woman and felt like I was faking it or wasn’t trans enough because other people had different looking transitions than me or had it harder. I relate to a lot of what you said. Because I do want to go on testosterone and have body hair, a deep voice, bottom growth, muscles, etc, but I don’t want any surgery either. I suppressed my true feelings for a while and just tried to convince myself that I’m cis since I don’t fit into this idea of a completely binary transition. But after seeing other non binary people taking testosterone and estrogen, online and in my real life, I feel like I finally saw that that was something I could be “allowed” to do.
It's so lovely to see your journey, and hear you talking about your experience!
thank you so much for sharing this lynn! you are such a huge inspiration, and you helped me realize i’m non-binary because i didn’t see a lot of representation of how i feel about gender, which is similar to yours. i never felt non-binary enough. anyway, thank you, you are helping so many people ♥️
I think everyone of us people who watch your videos here and on tik tok is so proud of you. Thank you for sharing with us such a personal journey! I really wish you the best.❤️
Im so glad you talked about this! People dont realise that hrt is really for everyone! Unrelated not you should do a plug collection tour, all ur plugs are so pretty id love to see them !!!
thank you so much for sharing this. it's been difficult to find other nonbinary people who have similar feelings as me and similar potential goals for hrt. I don't know if I'll try it, but hearing that it can be affirming from someone whose gender identity is similar to mine is really encouraging.
I thought I was going to be on low dose T and go off fairly early and I’ve realized that I want a lot more than that. But if I hadn’t given myself the opportunity to try it slower I may not have realized it for much longer
Do you have an end goal, is there something particular you want to transition to or are you more going with the flow.
I hope you achieve whatever you want to become. X
I think it’s really ignorant for these allies to say you can only be on HRT if you are transitioning from one binary to another. It literally defeats the purpose of gender affirming care. I’m glad you made this follow up video on your journey because I been debating on starting T to help with my voice and muscle growth!
all of your videos are so insightful thanks so much!
I’m nonbinary and I’ve been wanting to to start a low dose of T but I can’t do it right now 😞
when i heard u mention, feeling as though it makes sense to go on hrt if you present more trans masc, my brain thought you can dress fem and be on T! Do whatever makes u happy you dont have to go by rules or go by what others think is the right way to do something
u can def wear makeup and dress fem and be on T! ive seen enby trans ppl dress fem all the time! fr its whatever makes you happy
Honestly as someone who has gone by genderfluid and even has gone to say transmasc, I concluded a little bit ago that nonbinary felt right for me. I feel similarly about gender in the way you do, where I usually feel stronger about one or the other depending on the day, but the word genderfluid had people asking me questions and making a lot of unwanted assumptions about me. Feeling that you want to exist outside of one singular gender box, that's still valid as nonbinary! I completely understand why you'd want to go on T- everyone's different in how they want to present themselves as nonbinary. Personally I wouldn't want to go on T, but I would love to get top surgery. That's why it's such a special community to be a part of :)
Also- I totally relate to when you spoke of not finding many nonbinary transitioning online. When I went to look up top surgery results, I saw a lot of very masculine trans men, which is great... But I wanted to see an example of an androgynous/feminine person with top surgery as well, to better display what I feel inside.
You literally are like me exactly but the opposite way, im amab, I'm fluid but slightly Transfemme/androgynous don't want bottom surgery would get a small boob job if it was the right fit like a max B cup.
I also thinking about low dose hrt like just low end of men range T mostly just higher E, without infertility tbh. Probably just low dose estradiol I think.
I've been on dht blockers the strong 90%+ type been better a bit I feel, I got rid of body hair but I keep a bit of a beared with almost waist length hair.
And yes I want to keep getting more fem but not all the way girly girl lol
Very interesting about not knowing where the endpoint is you'll just know it when you get there I think I feel the same
Thanks im also non binary wanting to go on hormones but I didn't know about the different doses you can go on so I just said I'll wait some more since doctors here always say I have to either be a woman or in order to transition be a manly man wanting all the manly testosterone for the rest of my life. Getting top surgery soon then I'll look into T more with that information.
I feel like we need to think about doctors that would tell a patient that you have to basically be a patient for life if you get these surgeries and take these hormones. Hospital administrators have admitted that the main reason for these surgeries is because they are money makers. The fact is there are no long term studies on what these hormones and surgeries can do to people in the long run. We need to protect our bodies and the health of our minds. I truly believe that we are seeing mass mental illness in this country due to social media. We need to protect children. I’m not trying to be disrespectful. I like watching people who think differently than me. I truly think people need to be more open to conversation.
@@madisonealy2281 im in a whole different country and I know it's because of laws for teenagers. I'm over 18 now so I can look into more stuff now. Before there was a certain order to do hormones(for the rest of your life or you at least have to tell your doctor that) then top surgery then bottom surgery. Basically being told non binary people exist and all but at the same time needing to transition all or nothing. I think that's really harmful to teenagers because you have to squeeze in that box you shouldn't even be in with no doctor telling you about other options. There really are other options but no one tells you about it. Now with being over 18 there are more unique options but you still have to lie about wanting T for the rest of your life.
I'm also nonbinary and have thought about lose dose HRT as well. For now I'll wait a bit and see if I still want it in a while and I also have to wait until my country has finally figured out how to actually handle people like us so I can do things like change my gender marker to a neutral one and not have to do things I can't do like presenting as the gender I want to be for x amount of time to even get HRT or any kind of surgery. Like damn I'm already living in the gender I am I'm not in the binary so this will never look how these people think it should.
Also thinking about once I can do it maybe changing my name but that'll have to wait too and I hope it won't be that much longer.
For me I feel a lot of the same way and I went from identifying as a trans man for almost 5 years and just being a feminine man I want to be a feminine guy who uses he/they pronouns and has a bit of a chest I am not the binary version of a man I want testosterone and surgery for the same reasons but I'm so scared to ask for they them pronouns I'm just really scared of how people will respond to it bc I present so femininely I was looking into voice masculinization surgery bc I did not want a lot of the changes now I feel so much more seen thank you
I would consider myself either non binary or gender fluid( I haven’t decided yet) and I want to transition so bad. When I’m older I will do t hopefully. I really want facial hair.
As someone who is trans I’m really curious and fascinated in your journey especially when I’ve never seen or known any non binary person to do it. I understand you want your anatomy to change but does that mean you plan on continuing T permanently? Just cause as far as I’m aware if you discontinue T reverse affects would begin when it comes to your body anatomy? Hope the question is okay 🙏🏻
Some effects often become permanent! Such a bottom growth and vocal changes, as well as some hair growth and body recomp. But many changes do go away with T when you stop.
I’m taking very, very low doses and also combining other medication to make it a slower transition. This allows me to have a bit more control over how my body is changing but also what changes seem to remain permanent and which don’t.
My current plan is some stops/starts with low does medication. I’m planning to take T low dose till I feel like I’m at a comfortable level with it and then stop. See how long it takes for changes to reverse and what does or doesn’t reverse. Then probably start taking T again! And do that till I feel comfortable. :)
I’m also considering other surgical transition steps, and I’ve already gotten two gender affirming surgeries so. There may be more forms of medical transition in my future!
🥰 you look amazing and happy.
Much love
From the Netherlands
Que es binario????
Would you be open to putting your hormones in a wishlist and asking your fans to support you?
I am VERY fortunate to be partnering with plume so my hormone costs are greatly reduced. While I’ve considered opening avenues for fans to help support my transition and health I think there are a lot of other people who need it more then me? I’m not well off by any means but I’m not struggling as much as many others so I would encourage folks to donate to others who are more in need. And my venmo and ko-fi are both public for anyone who would like to support me. 🥰
@@Lynn_Loheide Fair enough. There's no harm in setting one up and listing what you need. If people are willing to support you, then theres no downside.
Also, there are some lgbt folk that are less fortunate than you? They would probably appreciate you sharing the concept with them. Similar to your Plume deal, you could earn money as an affiliate by doing so.
@@Lynn_Loheide I won't push the issue if you say no. I'll respect your decision.
I think with whole empathy, to be comfortable with the body you are born with, you are not assigned your sex, it is the body you have and there is nothing wrong with the body we are born with. Transsexual people go through the transition to be the desire gender. I get from your experience is that being a biological woman, has not been comfortable for you, but you may not be a transsexual at all or maybe yes, that is something as an adult to be decided, with your past child knowing, you may want to be a man, but in this video you mention you don't want to be a man. My transsexual friends have to pass through the transition that takes time, to be perceived as their medical dysphoria.
I wish you the best in your transition. Regardless if you are a transsexual or a biological woman, lesbian or heterosexual or pansexual or asexual. There is no more than being a man or a woman, that is the end goal for transsexual people.
Objectively, transsexual people are biological woman transitioning to be trans man and vice versa. Transsexual people have a medical condition, called gender dysphoria. Nonbinary is a very new term that lacks objective meaning, even causing harm to people with no medical help and taking hormones have a long-lasting effect on the body and should be looked thoroughly by medical personnel, have to be super careful with taking hormones just because one day you feel masc or fem. Woman and man have the qualities of being fem and masc, but that doesn't make them transsexual. Just preoccupied for you. Hope you live a healthy existence without any harm you may regret. Best regards.
You have all these piercings, tattoos and body mods, why would you draw such a hard line at changing your body to your liking through hormones really, it's way less invasive than anything else really.
Have you considered the risk of sterilization that people watching have while taking your advice to experiment? This is gross negligence. And I DO support your transition if that’s what you want. This confusing Bs preaching is a crime
For many of us sterilization isn’t a risk at all. I have also spoken openly about my surgery to be medically sterilized online. For me it’s not a concern at all, and rather a benefit. Plenty of people do not want biological children and have no interest in pregnancy.
@@Lynn_Loheide I would love it if you could see that your videos don’t give any of the negatives. We shouldn’t be teaching children something so life changing through rose coloured glasses. I think your heart and intentions are pure. I do however think your account is dangerous.
@@Kindred_37 I have made entire videos about negative side effects- I talk very very openly about how HRT has effected my skin and my struggle with that. I have a number of videos on the various ways HRT impact piercings and body modifications.
But- you’ll notice a lot of videos about my transition don’t have much negative. Because there hasn’t been much. Aside from the effects on my skin and my piercings HRT has been incredible. It’s been life changing and more importantly life saving. My videos are an honest reflection of -my- transition and my experience- which is an overwhelmingly positive one. I’m not a doctor or a medical professional. I’m just a trans person talking about their life and their transition online. If my transition is a positive thing for me- then I’m going talk about that.
@@Lynn_Loheide you must realize that people don’t watch your videos in chronological order. You should honestly be concerned about the legal implications in the future of your careless narrative.
@@Kindred_37 I’ve produced the content. I’m open and honest about most factors of my transition. There’s just honestly very few negative ones. I don’t consider being honest about my lived experiences to be careless. 🤷🏼♀️
I’m non-binary and I have no intention of transitioning. I’m not trans, I don’t identify with being trans in any way, shape, form, or fashion. Trans and nonbinary are two entirely different things and just because you can be both doesn’t mean everyone who’s nonbinary wants to be called trans or forced under a trans umbrella when nonbinary is NOT under a trans umbrella and that’s a common misconception born of complete misunderstanding and conflation. Sorry, I’m not screaming at anyone, just screaming into the void in general.
(I am a gender studies student) Below I will list correct and founded facts about the nonbinary experience/misconceptions.
Non-binary Misconceptions
1. “Non-binary people are all trans or non-binary as a whole falls under a trans umbrella.”
Response: This idea is born of trans-medicalism at best (the belief that transition has to take place in order for a person who doesn’t identify with their assigned sex at birth to be valid -regardless of gender identity) and pure conflation of the two identities due to ignorance at worst. The Oxford dictionary recognizes Non-binary to be defined as: “ADJECTIVE: (of a person) choosing not to be identified as either
male or female”, and Transgender to mean “ADJECTIVE: relating to, or being a person whose gender identity is opposite the sex the person had or was identified as having at birth. Non-binary and Transgender generally are their own separate identities with the medical consensus being that the only common denominator recognized is the occurrence of gender dysphoria -which in every case, is case specific. Some may experience it, some may not. While you can transition to non-binary due to a case specific need of transition, being trans is not an inherent factor nor occurrence within the non-binary identity.
According to Healthline.net Nonbinary: What Does It Mean? - Healthline Non-binary also doesn’t fall under a “Trans umbrella” as the term is its own umbrella, -categorized as an umbrella for all gender identities that don't fit into the gender binary of "female" or "male."
2. “Non-binary people are all gender fluid.”
Response: According to Harvard Health EDU, “Gender fluidity refers to change overtime in a person's gender expression or gender identity, or both” whereas the non-binary identity is categorized as an experience of not at all identifying with/the rejection of the Male/Female binary.
3. “All non-binary people have to be androgynous and can not be masculine or feminine presenting.”
Response: There is no correct or incorrect way to present as Non-binary. Presentation and identity are two entirely separate methods of self portrayal. You may identify as being neither male nor female, and enjoy a societally viewed femme aesthetic or enjoy a societally viewed masc aesthetic, as the Non-binary community exists outside of the “male/female” binary -as is the case with their bodies, there is no capacity for gendering clothing, but rather an appreciation for different aesthetics.
4. “All non-binary people use they/them pronouns.”
Response: According to the Miriam Websters Dictionary, Non-binary is also defined as “Not just two”. In the context of gender, this could mean “absolutely neither male nor female pronouns” or “more than two pronouns.” This is not to be confused with being trans, as transition means to change your identity to reflect an entirely opposite identity as well as gender expression. In addition, Transition is not necessary for the validity of those bearing “not just two” pronouns, and is also not to be misconstrued with gender-fluidity, categorized as a swinging pendulum of identity and expression. Non-binary people do not experience different identities like those of the gender-fluid community. They experience the identity of being non-binary but simply can be referred to using more than two pronouns.
5. “Non-binary people are a new thing.”
Response: According to Healthline, “Although being nonbinary is often regarded as a new phenomenon, history tells us that nonbinary identities have existed for many centuries. In fact, nonbinary gender has been recorded as far back as 400 B.C. to 200 A.D., when Hijras were referenced in ancient Hindu texts.” Elaboration: A lack of terminology or definition does not equate to a lack of existence. (In other words, I didn’t know what a sway bar was or that they existed until last year when my vehicle needed repairs, but that doesn’t make sway bars a new thing.”
6. “Gender identity, presentation, and pronouns are all interchangeable / MUST go hand in hand, (as in if you identify as non-binary you HAVE to look androgynous and use they/them and can not exist as enby outside of this idea.)”
Response: Gender identity is the personal sense of one's own gender, Gender presentation is the way one may choose to appear, -an aesthetic if you will, and your pronouns are what you allow others to address you as. Whether or not they go “hand in hand” is entirely up to the individual.
7. “All Non-binary people are LGBT+”
Response: Identity and sexuality have nothing to do with each other. You can identify as non-binary and use the pronouns if they/them and be totally straight. Your relationship with your own gender has nothing to do with who you’re attracted to.
8. “There are only two sexes” (in your best insulting voice)
Response: Firstly, biological sex is NOT even binary, and never has been in the entirety of the history of science and biology.
“Non-binary” can be defined by the Miriam Websters Dictionary as: “not just two”, -as in not just two sexes (in the context of this research).
There are biological males: XY
Biological females: XX
Those born with Triple X Syndrome: XXX (Persons born with an extra sex chromosome)
Those born with Turner Syndrome: Y(?) (Persons missing part of, or an entire X chromosome.)
Those born with Hermaphroditism: XXY (the condition of having both male and female reproductive organs.)
So in conclusion, SEX IS NOT BINARY.
9. “There are only two genders” (angry face 😡)
Response: This is a popular conflation of the propagandized and basic idea of the term “gender” and the biological term “Sex”.
Gender is entirely a social construct involving traits and behaviors categorized as either male or female and has absolutely nothing to do with your physiological makeup whatsoever. Binary gender is behavioral, aesthetic, and is the antithesis of Sex.
10. “You can’t be non-binary and a lesbian, or gay”
Response: Non-binary identities do not conflate sexual preference and gender. Gender identity and sexuality do not tie together nor do they dictate one another. You can identify as non-binary and still have a valid attraction to any sex/gender. A lesbian is a non-male attracted to other non-males with the genital preference of vaginas, and the same goes for individuals who may be gay and non-binary, -they simply are people with the genital preference of penises. A non-binary bisexual / pansexual is commonly thought of as having no genital preference, but this is again, case specific as everyone regardless of identity has genital preferences.
I hate to be that dude but like lot of what you said is incorrect 😭 it’s not that non-binary and trans are necessarily synonymous either but how you view gender is pretty simplistic nonetheless. Firstly, I agree that “trans-medicalism” has been harmful to trans and nonbinary people, I think a further examination of why transmed is harmful shows that it originates with a biological/medical view of gender variance. To me you kinda contradict yourself by then citing medical papers or dictionaries to prove the “validity” of non-binary. It’s not that aren’t correct sometimes per say, but rather non-binary existence can and should not be extrapolated from the clinical study of gender. “Medical consensus” is not a good benchmark for understanding transness/non-binaryness. Secondly, the idea that sexuality and gender identity are easily separated is a very simplistic model. While they are different things, gender is very much related to how we relate sexually and thus how we identify. How others view us sexually because of our gender presentation is also important. Personally, my transmasculinity is absolutely related to my attraction to women. I like being understood masculinely in a sexual context. Sexuality is not simply observing something attractive, but the process by which we relate to others in a sexual context. Our genders being an important in-put. Thirdly, again you fall back on to a medical/biological view of gender by defining lesbian and gay by genitals . I am a transmasculine lesbian and i am not attracted to vaginas but rather the women attached to them. Many women don’t have vaginas, such as trans women who are also important for my lesbianism. In a similar way to there being afab non-binary lesbians, there are also amab non-binary lesbians too. I know many haha! I don’t mean to attack you, you definitely mean well. Transness/non-binaryness is poorly understood by the public
@@lulu_8615 everything I said is 100% based on facts and college level research but thank you for your opinion I guess. Also please tell me how the fuck I contradicted myself by citing my sources? If you’re going to say anything factual, you should be proving the FACTS. It sounds like you’re speaking from bias and personal experience rather than any kind of actual research and that’s kind of a YOU problem. I’m non-binary, and I’m involved in gender studies which absolutely offers my credibility regardless of what some random on RUclips says.
@@lulu_8615 also you entirely lost me when you said “medical consensus isn’t a good benchmark for gender studies” LMAOOOOO are you literally kidding??? So I guess gender dysphoria just doesn’t exist and there’s nothing to look into in terms of science and biology. Let’s muddy the waters because according to that stupid ass shit, just anyone can be trans. It’s definitely not a specific biological struggle🥴🥴🥴
@@lulu_8615 and third, it sounds like you have an extremely rudimentary idea of biological sex, gender, presentation, and pronouns and it seems that you are not aware that they are in fact COMPLETELY SEPARATE THINGS. If you can’t comprehend that at a base level you really shouldn’t be speaking at all, which is weird seeing as though you agreed with me, and then ate your own words. Condescendingly stating that you’re transmasc doesn’t mean you know anything about being nonbinary. Condescendingly stating that you Know non-binary people doesn’t mean you know anything about being non-binary. Please do not speak over us when we offer information or correct misinformation because that’s exactly what I did, AND I cited my sources like I said. If you had trouble understanding my sources or why I cited them, I don’t know what to tell you.
@@kalebrosetaylor yeah I am saying it’s not a biological struggle LOL gender is social and so are our gender identities. we have a psychological/social relationship to our bodies which makes some of us choose to change them but there is no trans brain or gene. Transness is socially constructed just like gayness. This is literally gender studies 101 😭😭 gender troubles by bulter?