Yamaha R7 vs MT07 | Technical Differences
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- Опубликовано: 24 июл 2024
- Everyone is saying that the R7 is literally just an MT07 with fairings. Before we make any more videos on either of these bikes we gotta get this straight. In today's video we're going over the differences between Yamaha's two newest bikes that are featuring the CP2 Engine!
R7 First Ride: • 2022 Yamaha R7 | First...
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Given that both share the same platform Yamaha should do an MT07 SP with the upside-down forks and the better brake master cylinder of the R7. I bet a lot of naked bike fans would be willing to pay the premium for a better suspension on the MT07.
Never ridden an MT07 but I've heard that the suspension, especially the forks, really suck. They should just add that to the standard model
@@DeliPlays But then they'd have to up the price...
@@DeliPlays I'm a 190lbs dude and have no problems riding the mt07 the suspension is fine. it's may be a problem if you're a professional racer and looking to pushing it to it limit.
Charge like $500-700 more, maybe include the chassis bracing? They might want people to go for an MT09 at that point though.
@@kevinlugonzbi6005 No I think he's right from a marketing perspective. They left the perfect hole in the pricing model for it to be just as you said, Mt-07 SP $500-700 more than base. Still $500-700 cheaper than the R7 and like $900-1100 cheaper than an R9. (If my math is ok) Could be very smart of them to do. MT-07 without the weak link of that soft fork might sell great. People that dgaf about suspension will still buy the base model of course.
You're always (most of the time) worth listening to. Keep up with the honesty about your vids - Rainy Days and Mondays, and all.
The last video i saw of you was showing how to rotate a bike on a kickstand. I remember the red gloves and red helmet combo. You've come a long way! Happy to see that the channel has grown so much! Wish you the best! Ride safe!
You were right next to my shop in Alpharetta! Just put a deposit on a R7 for the race team. Great video, helped a lot
Recently bought MT07, waiting for delivery currently. The seating position is way more comfortable for me than on the R7, which is also an amazing bike by the way.
Love the quality of this video! That’s why I come to this channel
OC!!! I'd get the R7 for sure! I currently have an R3 and I love it. I hope we get it soon here in El Salvador ;)
15:05 You forgot about the Tracer 700!
Great video as always :)
OC: Already bought an R7!
Guys this is just a suggestion but you guys can check and make a video of what parts are compatible with the emit-07 from the R7. I believe a lot of people will be interested in upgrading there mt07 from R7 parts. Great video and content as always!
Great video. Moving over from a Harley and looking at sport bikes, lots of information to soak up, thanks!
Great video, my wife was looking at both of these bikes and this will should really help her decision
OC: Definitely R7 for me. I’m not a naked fan because of the lack of wind protection. I’m looking forward to try out the seating position on the R7. Thanks for a technical comparison 🤘
Lol "Gague" Cluster xD
Great video as per usual Chase!! OC! I think I'm still leaning to the MT07 because it's a peppy chilling bike. You can rip when you want to and cruise without pinning the throttle every gear.
Lady Gague. Gauge lol
I picked up my 2021 MT-07 2 days and it was the best decision of my life. Already slapped a blackwidow full exhaust system on there with a 270mm can and it sounds phenomenal gargles, pops, bangs n all 😁
Oc
Cool video chase. Would like to see a similar video on the difference between the R6 and the R7.
Sold my R6 and bought this Mega Tron -07. Love this bike
OC - First off, heal plates do not add any rigidity to the frame, just makes it to where you cant put your foot in the chain while riding.
Already have an fz07 adventure bike, I love it, 24k miles now.
Thank you very informative, I found out what I wanted to know, if I was younger the R7, as it stands the MT07 Because of my back & age.
OC! Definitely the R7. Waiting on mine to arrive at the dealership. So excited!
Very good vid guys. If i was in the market for a trackday bike, i'd strongly look at an R7
As soon as the R7 was announced, I've wanted one. Gonna have to pick that. -OC
I own the 2021 MT07. Fookin love it!!
Most definitely looking to grab the R7 in the near future! [OC]
OC: MT-07 for sure.
I'd probably strap a windshield, handguards and a comfort seat to it.
Cheers
so a tracer?
@@AZ-wc5ot Yes please.
Only not so tall and heavy
I would go R7 solely because I'm going to be doing my first track day next year and would learn better on it at the track than my bigger sport bike.
OC. I like them both. Never road in my life but love your vids. I'm 41 and 5'7", so as a newbie, I'd go for the shorter Mt 07 just because it's shorter.💯 Wouldn't ride as a newbie on something that I couldn't flatfoot.
OC. The rumoured R9, I'll very likely buy that bike if it happens.
Really liking the music choices these days too :)
I am seriously considering the R7 for a dedicated track bike. More get-up than an R3 and won't bore as quick with it and still be a bike to provide a challenge, without the cost of tracking a super sport
I love my MT10SP, but it's just a licence killer. The T7 is fun, fast enough and the cp2 is a really good engine. I want to make a test ride on the R7, maybe it's a better decision to keep my licence. Riding a slow bike fast is way more fun than riding a fast bike slow.
OC. MT-07 for me. Too worn out to be leaning over when riding now days.
Leaning forward? Is that what you’re saying? You don’t want to forward lean?
@@marine0816 too worn out to lean in a corner :D
Great video and keep up the good work :) OC: if I would I will get the R7 just because of the look
Love my Mt07 but sometimes being a naked bike does beat you up on the highway. Having that wind protection on the r7 would be nice but idk if i could get away from the naked style. Such a fun bike to rip around the city.
You can always add a windshield.
I'm thinking about moving to an mt-07 and convert it to a 'budget' tracer 700
@@brucearena I have a windscreen. Helps a bit but nothing like a full fairing sports bike. If I gotta go on the highway I take my r6 for that wind protection
OC: Just ordered my 2021 MT 07 and I believe I made the right choice for the use I want from it!
You missed a few things:
ECU is mapped differently from factory on R7
Brake Calipers on R7 are radially mounted as opposed to MT07’s being Axial mounted.
That’s 2 things but thanks for the info
What does the different mapping do for the R7?
I'm disappointed Yamaha chose to make the R7's ride similar to the old R6 or current R1. They easily could have kept the R7 comfortable like the MT-07. Middleweight sport bikes in the 1990's were comfortable bikes to ride even on long distances (e.g. Honda CBR600 F3 and Yamaha FZR600). They were also much heavier as well. I suppose Yamaha had to keep the R7 from taking sales away from the MT-07. If I was offered a high-performance and comfortable R7, I'd skip the MT-07 and spend the extra money.
OC: my current bike is a standard, so I'd go for the R7! It seems like a perfect second bike and a perfect track/canyon toy.
Good review. Entry level bikes for different things. Seems reasonable. Still hard to get over the same hp. 13000 is a lot....maybe worth it but again depends on what you get the bike for and the actualy bike which I have yet to ride.
OC. Can't pick between the two easily, but I think I'd fancy the MT07 more for comfort. I would imagine we'll see front end swaps from R7 onto the 07 one of these days to come.
I have an MT-07 but the design of the R7 is what sold me it looks to good now just waiting for mine to arrive in the UK October time.
How is it?
Can you do a which you should buy vid. Like your mt03 R3.
Your vid helped my decision choosing the R3 and loving it. Getting ready to upgrade and can't decide between mt07 n R7
OC: Pricing is great for the MT07 but the R7 looks amazing to me. I just put a deposit down on one, will be getting it next month 😁😁
No it's not replacing the R6. Nothing is, the R7 is just a new addition to the line up.
a little addition: the CP2 is also used on Tracer 700 so currently it's used for 5 motorcycles
maybe they would use it as a cruiser basis too in the future as vulcan 650/rebel 500 competitor
Not available in the US
Quite cool to see how functionally similar the R7 is from a twins cup FZ07.
Us shorter riders stand in defense of Beau! Shorty Squad represent!
Dude if only I was a few inches taller...instead "I'm coming in at a just disgusting 5 foot 6" lol
I'm whipping a Benelli TNT135 this year as my first bike. At 5'5 I'm having the hardest time coping with the fact I can only flat-foot like 3 bikes that are 300-700cc 😥 all the best bikes are an inch or 2 too tall
I’m 5’6” on a 890R. Don’t allow anything to keep you from doing what you want. Went from a CbR250 to a 390 Duke, Street Triple 675 R, 790 Duke and now a 890R.
@@Chestwolf at the end you only need one foot on the ground tbh
I picked up a 2006 cbr 600 f4i this past weekend, I can tip toe to get me going. But geez, the weight being up high really throws me off. Nearly dropped it a few times, don't even get me started on trying to back it up either. Already looking into lowering links
OC - the R7 cause it looks so damn good but feel like it’d be to rough to have just to take to work and have fun on weekends
Ah, The OC... Loved that show. ;) I'd pick the MT07. Though I'd probably fit, I'm old and fat and too ugly to be seen in skin-tight racing leathers on a sportbike! I'm wondering, though, will some or any of those 'different' parts, like that rear support, be swappable to the MT07?
OC
I was initially sold on the MT as a first bike but after researching the R7, I’m sort of torn between the two. It would be used as a weekend bike on the street and highway.
Hope someone makes a r7 fairing kit for the mt07 so i dont have to buy a new bike lmao
saw a lot of r3 convert into r1. so mt07 to r7 is not a big deal
dont forget the forks and the handlebars
@@Misfit_FATDUCKY well handle bar don’t matter as long as the forks are similar
Why would anyone cripple maintenance ability and ergonomics for looks, that are way more expensive to repair in case of dropping the bike I wonder.
@@Palcious Lookssure but its also functional aero on the racetrack. Also if you race, you NEED a bellypan. Converting R1/3/6 fairings to fit an FZ isn't terribly uncommon, and doing that is less expensive than buying a full-fairing kit for $1000+ designed for the FZ07
So it will be a gutless wonder like the mt07 not worth buying then glad you mentioned that early on so you saved my time thanks
OC! I like the styling of the R7 more but I know the MT is way more comfortable riding long distance. Depends on which type of riding you are going to do more of.
OC: MT-07. but I actually own a 2020MT07 already lol, But I think a lot of people need to know the answer to this question. Will the R7 suspension swap over to the MT07 ? And if it isn't a direct bolt on swap what would it take to complete the swap? Would definitely make a very interesting video comparing them.
No telescopic Fork and USD fork thats a "direct bolt on" swap, it's a different system, needed an also different set of triple clamps, etc
@Shane DorangeObviously the op didn't know who to ask. no need to be an ass about it.
You should prob mention that the MT-07 also has brembo master cylinders, just a different style, not radial. Take a close look at the front and rear masters of the FZ/MT-07
he did...
I’m not sure it does! I have the ‘21 MT
Also the 07 has axial mounted callipers and the R7 radial mounted callipers.
@@TypicalMT it does go look
@@PEPEtheBulletSlinger damn that’s dope then! I would of thought they would of shown off the name “brembo” somewhere on the bike!
OC: I had the 2015 FZ-07. Absolutely loved it but was terrified going over 100 mph as it would shake and so much wind would hit me. I would’ve put a windshield but it would look dumb. Personally I think the R7 is perfect, just has more of a top speed and a windshield you can tuck behind. Also better suspension and a slipper clutch would be nice. I track an R3 and would love to test out my own R7. R7 for me.
so you want an r7?
@@garbygarb31 I got a fz07 🤣 R7 too expensive
New OC, I would have to pick the MT07. givin my current riding demands. short but harsh commute, a race track is 6+hours in any direction. buy a bike you can enjoy right away and then think about an upgrade or build the bike to suit your needs. I bought the 2006 FZ6 in 06 and started stripping it after seeing the euro spec fazer600
The one i want is the one with better suspension. I have the razor on my fz, but only did the dave moss treatment to the front
OC: I purchased an R7, been waiting for this kind of bike for a while now, not as fast/heavy as an R6 but faster than an R3, I think this is the sweetspot for me! Huge Yamaha fan
It's 419lb for the R6 414lb for the R7 that's like lunch for a grown man.
@@chrishart8548 idk what it is, but sitting in an R6 feels very heavy to me
@@gerardohurtado3394 the riding position is awful my ass is higher than my hands when I sit on it and it feels very top heavy. Even the seat hight is really high up. Don't think it's heavy just feels heavy.
@@chrishart8548 that makes a lot of sense, also I'm short rider so that adds to the problem haha
Thanks for comprehensive comparision. That was really helpful and fun to watch :)
P.S. Don;t you have Yamaha Tracer 700 in USA? It's popular model here in Europe, it's also with CP-2 Engine :)
No they don't.
Congrats on 1mil subscribers
GAGUE cluster? LOL. Good comparison. 👍🏻
Love your videos, but in this one, the music was louder than your voice. Meaning that I had to turn up my speakers to hear you, but then turn it down when the music plays. Just thought I'd let you know. I love all your content otherwise, and it's great for hunting for that N+1 motorcycle. :D
I'm hoping to pick up the R7 sometime next year. - OC
OC! I just test road the MT07 and it was my first ride in a long time. I had a super blast and its super torquey in my opinion i think the MT07 would be a great daily bike as well as a commute bike doing over 80mph tucked down it was nice and fun on a straight road. I can't say anything on the R7 but if they are practically the same in terms of power and such for a fun daily 30min commute bike or a weekend bike i say the MT07 would be the best option. But i feel like the R7 would do better on the highway based on the windscreen and body positioning.
OC: I like both bikes, but I’d go with the R7 because of the body work, slipper clutch, and improved braking. If the MT-07 had those, minus the fairings of course, then I’d pick the MT-07 for its upright seating position.
I just wish they kept the old front end on the MT, added a quickshifter + blipper, better brakes and front forks.
I am a bit of a Yamaha fanboy. That being said, all things being equal, I would choose the Aprilia RS 660 over the R7. Price and availability are a factor though, especially in Canada.
Looking across model years here. One has to wonder what, if any, changes (including pricing) may come to the MT-07 for 2022. I'm sure we'll all find out soon.
Great video thanks for making this!!!!! 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
Top video mate
OC!!! I'm really loving this R7 look
I have both I love Yamaha’s I have a r7,MTO7,a Indian chief bobber I love every one for different reasons the MTO7 is for going on a cruise to the beach the Yamaha r7 is for when I go to the track and the bobber is for LONG rides
I own 2021 MT07. I love this bike. A wheelie machine. I will try the R7 and compare.
Would love to see a side by side of the R7 and the outgoing R6
How much do clipons that don't have as steep of an angle help the body position/ hand placement? Never owned a sport bike but really eyeing the r7
OC. I own the 2019 MT07. I'd love an R7 with raised clip-ons. Make it a sporty daily like the RS660...
Whoa now, what’s wrong with the way the MT-10 looks, I got to see it the other day in person and it looks amazing. I love the look of it.
I just hit 214 miles on mine now and I absolutely love it !!!!
I wanted to know if the rear sprocket, is the same for both?
R25 and MT-25 have difference of 2-3 tooth on the rear sprocket but I couldn't find these two.
OC: I'd love to get a MT-07 for my wife to learn to ride on.
So when's the new MT-09 First Ride coming out?
I want an upright riding position and an easier control feel like you get with a naked bike, which is why I want to get an mt07, but I also like to hit the mountains and twisties as much as I can. Will the mt07 be good for that? I'm mostly commuting for school and work but during free time I hit curves.
Dude you look just like a guy i took msf with about 10 or 11 years ago in georgia! Any chance you used to drive a yellow mustang? Anyhow great video, i just put my deposit down for one of these.
First OC, i want an mt 09 as first bike, personaly i liked more the mt 07 riding position, i sittes on the mt 09 and i loved how i feeled grabing that beast.
OC: I have an ‘19 MT07. I would stick to the MT because I spend most of my time having fun in the street. If I didn’t own an MT I’d definitely get the R7. Now if I wanted to start track days I’d go for an used R3 (staying Yamaha obviously cuz I’m a simp for the brand) learn my way and then step the ladder to an ZX-6R or something similar. Don’t see the point of getting an R7 since they’re almost the same bike, but don’t get me wrong, R7 is really cool and I would love to swing a leg on one. That’s my 2 cents there...
OC: personally I would pick the MT07 where my Fiancé is really eyeing the R7 as the next bike she is looking to buy
the quality of these videos are 100
love your content bud
So they're the same bike. Thanks for the comparison!
OC. I'm curious if you can buy and bolt on that stress member to upgrade the MT07
Its R-7 for me. Hopefully it will arrives in MALAYSIA soon. OC❤️❤️
Kan bro, harap R7 masuk Malaysia , kalau bawah 50k , mmng nak target R7.
Kalau ikutkan dlm 37-45k, boleh tu, hrp2 masuk laa😭😭😭
@@syahdadhadi5572 tu laaa lawa Gila beb
OC! The R7 for sure. Not a big fan of naked bikes. Dont get me wrong though. Would still ride one and be happy. LOL
Great video as always.
M7
Which would be a better platform for stunting?
OC: Hard pick tbh, i live for the casual but hooligan style and feel of the MT 07, but the R7 looks nicer and you can go to the track with it, so ultimately i'd choose the MT over the R, but the R is always there as a backup 😂
Mt07 would be my pick if I was trading my bike. If I was getting it in addition to my cb500f I’d go with the R7
OC
OC: MT07 cause well I already own a heavily modified 2014 MT07 which is an absolute peach to ride. I actually rev-match my downshifts aggressively everyday without a slipper clutch, I guess I got good at it but I dont feel any wheel chatter or spin up when doing it. I honestly would always keep the MT07 cause it makes a great everyday commuter, but I would love a sport bike for track days or weekends (like an older gen R6). I wouldn't want 2 bikes with the same engine, even though I LOVE the feel and sound of the CP2, it wouldn't make sense to me.
OC: my back cant do the R7 position and my inseam could barely span that seat height so I'd get the mt07 but I still want to try the R7
Now the big question is, is the R7 slipper clutch compatible with an MT-07 (or my XSR700 more specifically...)?
Chase what if I have a bad back but want to use the bike as a daily for work. I will always be on the highway and city. I don’t want wind to be fatiguing my body but idk how bad it would be as this would be my first bike
I am Six ft four, would i feel comfortable on either of these bikes as my first? im considering either this or the mt-07, or Ninja 400. I'm still unsure what to go for as I've never ridden any bike yet
OC. The MT07. Now the questions that you did not address. Can the slipper clutch and front suspension from the R7 be a direct swap to the MT07???
Does the mt07 handle wind better than the mt03? My 03 gets absolutely tossed around at even 60 sometimes and it’s scary. When I upgrade I’m not sure which type of bike to buy. Gotta be Honda or yamaha, was thinking about the mt07
OC: I love the looks of the R7 but also like the aggressive look of the MT. After just hitting a deer and doing $1100 in damage to plastic I’m definitely leaning in the direction of the naked bike.
Change the oil on an r7 then change the oil on a fz/mt 😂