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Is the Yamaha R7 a "beginner bike"? | R7 as FIRST BIKE
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- Опубликовано: 14 авг 2024
- Ever since we released our First Ride video on the R7 you guys have asked us over and over...Can you get a Yamaha R7 as your First Ride or Is the R7 a beginner bike. In today's video, we attempt to answer that questions!
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Ok, I'm gonna start with H2. 🤙
no bro thats little bit small what you need is an h2r.
Go for the turbo busa as a starter bike
i want one so bad!
2 is smaller than 7 so yeah that makes sense
@@dory4498 maths
I’m a new rider and this is my first bike. I got it in black. I really love it and I enjoyed watching this video- very informative. It really doesn’t break your back it’s comfortable to ride on and yes you do have much better control gripping at the knees. At first I put my weight on the handlebar and it was very difficult to ride. Once it clicked using knees it made a world of a difference.
Congratulations 🎊 loving ❤ from India..
Waiting this baby in india
I'm considering buying one soon and this will be my first bike. Can you plant your feet on the ground? How tall are you?
Damn you got an Instagram?
@@thechapman4894 facts I’m 5’5 & 110 pounds so I’m wondering if I can touch the ground on it and handle the weight for my first bike.
It weighs a bit less then the Ninja 650 so I’m assuming we should be good
How tall are you? I'm pretty short 166 cm. Just wanna know if it fits.
The term "beginner bikes" is always depending on how mature the person who is going to ride it is. But when that said, I would always recommend lighter and probably also more upright bikes as beginner bikes, cuz' it's easier to "learn" how to be a good rider on a lighter bike. But if you're mature enough, and don't think with the right wrist, then why not :)
well said, g
This is a great way of putting it! 👍🏾
Maturity has nothing to do with comfort and competency. :)
Growing old is mandatory, growing up is optional.
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FIRST THING YOU SHOULD DO WHEN YOU BUY A BIKE THAT HAS ADJUSTABLE SUSPENSION: Pay to have the suspension set up for you, your body weight and riding style. Learned this lesson on my Honda CBR600RR, night and day difference, made me feel completely connected with my bike after the suspension was adjusted to me.
Where do I get it adjusted?
@@aliabdi6094 Either a motorcycle dealership, or motorcycle repair shop (motorcycle mechanic). If you buy a bike from a dealership try to negotiate them adjusting the suspension for free as part of the purchase deal.
@Drew My local motorcycle shop charges about $40 & it's worth every penny. A dealership might charge you more. If you are buying (new or used) a bike from a dealer I'd ask them to include it in the sale.
This is the truth. ^^ I paid a guy $50 to fully fiddle with it when I got it, and I've left it alone since. Its not a deal you play with throughout the day. My weight hasn't changed in 20 years, so I don't play with the dials, tempting as they are to turn.
I had the opportunity to buy this beauty as my first bike. I’ve had it for about 2 months now and it was the best decision I made. I can’t speak for everyone, but as long as you have respect for the power of these bikes and you have ( right wrist ) control you should be fine. Like Chase said, you can’t start on any bike you want just respect it and know your capabilities. Remember the bike will go as fast as you want it to...
most people can't even mentally respect the power of a 300, that's the problem.
Here in Germany, 9.5 from 10 125cc riders ride too fast, little do they know that their brakes suck and they lack the experience to stop a bike when it comes to the meat. A2 people, similar story but maybe we're talking about 70% of the riders. But now they can go even faster. And in the A category you'll maybe have 30% braindead riders.
@@Daniel-dj7fh I agree with you 100%; hence why I said you need to know your capabilities. If you have no sense of control then you should not be on a motorcycle, especially as a new rider.
Are you having R7
@@rajareegan3982 Yes
@@cosito628 1 question is how? Isnt release in December?
I think you convinced me bro! Price point, look , ergonomics, this jawn is perfect! I don't have any experience on bikes but I've watched your page, motonosity , fast lane d , rpstv , max wrist for YEARS! i think im ready now 🤣🤣
Same here havent started yet but thinking what kinda fucking bike i want to start off with!
They got a great motor bro the mt07’s have proven to be super reliable !!! Their engines are tops
Pretty much agree with everything you said except for leaving the suspension alone. While I agree that suspension is something that new riders probably shouldn't mess with on their own it's definitely a good idea to have someone with experience set it up for them as everyone is a different size/weight and that will dramatically effect handling.
"suspension is something that new riders probably shouldn't mess with" you just said it again, newbies shouldn't mess with it.
Newbies should also learn basic handling before given a bike which is tailored for their weight. Imagine someone pampered with perfect suspension and weighs abit more gets on a sumo, all their "learned" riding is half of worth because they'd not know what a bike with sloppy suspension does when breaking hard, or cornering hard or anything like that.
You're missing the point. You should always have your suspension set up for your weight. Your suspension is the most important safety measure that isn't controlled by the rider.
I'm not saying they need to go try to dial in they're compression and rebound or start replacing things but you should have it adjusted for your size so you don't pay for something the bike does or doesn't do in response to road imperfections.
@@Christian-Berger Surely it's a good thing to do, but it's not gonna benefit a newbie much. They have to learn how to ride first before caring about how the suspension sinks in in a hard curve because it's too soft or something.
@@Daniel-dj7fh for me at 225 braking on my fz09 when I first got it was significantly easier to control without the nose dating a 6" dive everytime I thought about touching the brakes. No, at the time I didn't notice every little difference but it overall felt safer and easier to ride and learn on. I guess that the thing I'm trying to say if your new and your suspension is almost non exist and because you're either too light to make it move or too heavy for it to dampen anything it only makes it harder to feel confident, safe, and willing to try more to improve.
@Shane Dorange I'm not signing up for anything. You've completely missed the point I was making.
OC: Wait for a R9 to come out.. MT09 engine on an r6 body... yes please
Go get your watered down sportsbike it'll go good with your ovaries.
OC, yea R9 all the way!
R9 would be awesome, as long as it does not have the riding ergos of an R6. R6 was the most uncomfortable moto I ever test-rode. ( For reference: I own a 2012 CBR1000RR, which I LOVE. )
Careful you might make Chase have some problems in his pants
@No_Name lol nerd? Better than a wannabe buying a bike that looks fast...
I saw an R7 for the first time yesterday and although it’s a quiet bike compared to super sports it’s actually pretty fast, so anyone wanted an R6 as a first bike I would think about the R7 as it’s probably gonna be better for beginners…thank you for ready my rant 😁👍
It is not quiet when you put an after market exhaust system. It is an absolute monster after that.
its cuz of the exhaust, ive heard some r7s with aftermarket exhausts that sound amazing
@@lefrenchy9021any recommendation for exhausts?
@@samvarney2319m4, toce, yosuimura are some good ones
@@samvarney2319akrapovic
I found an old, kind of beat up 2001 r6 for my first bike. It was stretched and lowered. I had no previous riding experience. Being set up the way it was really helped me feel out the throttle and learn how disciplined I needed to be while also feeling confident to accelerate quickly.
By month 3 I removed those mods and put it to stock. It felt like a different bike. Way better handling, acceleration felt scary again because pulling a wheelie was an actuality and I was still afraid of a whiskey throttle wheelie.
A month later my bike took a shit and I upgraded to a 2007 r1. A season later and I felt very confident in my ability to ride that bike within my limits and still had a lot of throttle to grow into. Just keeping it really low in the rpm range leashed it's potential and made it feel easy to ride.
This bike looks like the bike I’ll be getting. Incredible value, styling and performance. Yamaha have been very clever with the R7
Something I would like to touch on is for a new rider I would recommend buying used or pre owned certified and using the money you saved to make sure you get good gear.
2nd that
i turned 25 in june, bought a 2012 r6 as my first bike i love it. its more than enough bike for me
Great video! Love the blue. So my experience as a first time rider and this as my first bike has been absolutely fantastic. I had literally never sat on a motorcycle until I got the r7. I have about 1200 miles and I’m hooked. I do agree about the aggressive seating position. Cheers
Had a MT03 as my starter bike and after almost two years I bought a R7. First ride was out on the rain and thanks to my previous knowledge it felt smooth riding it out of the dealership
Are you happy with your choice? Dou think the R7 is a big enough jump from the R3 after two years? I have an R3 as well, but am considering options for my next bike, probably in a year or so.
I tried this bike along with the Ninja 400 and for my personal preference I was more comfortable handling the 400. I was able to flat foot and it wasn’t as heavy. As a beginner rider this is important to me because I want to crawl before I walk and be comfortable while learning. Plus if I upgrade who said having a little bike collection is a bad thing😉 this video was very informative and I appreciate this kind of content.
Okay so 1st thing, if you have never been on a bike, an R7 is not what you want. R3 or ninja 400 at max. Stupid to say an h2 is fine, if youve never been on a bike an r3 will feel like a nissan gtr. Start small, learn how to ride and move up💯
Awesome keep that R7 content coming as I am still waiting for mine to arrive in October.
How is it?
@@derekanaya I had to cancel it as I ended up getting a hold of a Toyota GR Yaris Circuit Pack, I'll just have to stick with my MT-07 in the meantime.
Short rider here, I felt the MT-09 and 10 were pretty tall and fell in love with the R7 feel!
How tall are you?
Outro Crew ... getting mine in 6 months (reasons).
2nd time watching, needed to be reminded why I set my heart on this bike. Cheers, Chase.
Loved how excited you got about the brz.😂 always makes me happy when someone gets excited seeing my car.
I started in 1985 on the Kawasaki ninja 600r but had years of dirt riding up to 400cc Yamahas and had my head on right for street riding saving the stupid for the track…….mostly. Made sure my stupidity wouldn’t effect anyone but me and geared up for it. It really does depend on your confidence and maturity level. If you think you’re gonna be a max wrist kind of rider when you first start that lesson is going to be painful if not fatal. Keep your head
"I started on a 650".... It's still amazing to hear this as a Brit
I started on a 650 and still have it and have fun on it even tho I have a few more powerful bikes now. 650 really is a winner as an all around street bike. Don't know why UK is so restrictive about licensing and so on--- in one respect I do agree get the M1 license in the US with no exp other than passing a class and DMV test and buying an R1 is crazy..... but the UK stuff is the other crazy having to start with a 125 lol. A 650 is by no means overpowered in a mature beginners hands.
@@englishsteel-nz6im the problem is most beginner motorbike riders are under 20. They can't afford a super fast car but they can get their hands on a 600 or litre bike. It's a recipe for death. I currently live in Taiwan and they have three tiers. The first goes to 250cc. The second is 250-500c. Third above 500cc. This is much better as even a 150cc can handle my weight whereas a 125 struggles. I'm trying to get a 250 but there's not much in the market here. When I get back to the UK I'll do my full A licence so i can get a 500 or 600. I'm 40 lol
@@seancrowe3353 Totally, I think it's rather crazy an under 21 with no exp in the US can go get an R1 or a Hayabusa lol(I've owned a GSXR750 and I wouldn't even want a modern R1, they're completely insane)
-- but I was just stating that having it restricted to 125s or 250s for beginner riders is extreme too. A careful 25 year old can't get a 500 or a 650? I believe in personal choice anyway. Something like this bike an R7 is definitely not too much for a mature beginner that will practice skill and value their own lives lol.
@@seancrowe3353 You ought to consider the Aprilia 660 or the CBR650R if avail in UK. Nice bridge of sporty bikes with ample power for the street between a supersport and a 650 naked. It's really all about practical performance-- 600 supersport is amazing fun on the track but they aren't fun on the street. I wish this R7 in fact had a power profile similar to the CBR650R as it's a beautiful bike. Main bike currently is a Kawa Z900--- if something released fully faired and decked out with this engine it'd be ideal lol.
@@englishsteel-nz6im cheers dude. I like the GSXR750 and I'm fond of Daytonas too
OC: It’s a pretty great bike that looks like it can be universally used by riders of all skill. And you seem to like it a lot. So maybe you should get it
Probably a bit much for a new rider, I’m completely happy with my R3 a year later. ECU Flash, R6 Throttle Tube, Toce Full System, Airbox/Filter. I think the sweet spot is 50HP, so the Ninja 400, ZX-4R, R4 would be the ultimate starter bike.
your r3 does 50hp?
Omg shits faster than my cb500f (cant do big mods, Germany doesn't allow)
My cbr600rr was the ultimate starter bike. A year later I wanted the cbr1000rr lol.
@@clutchboi4038 any crashes in the 1 year of riding you've done?
@@Daniel-dj7fh I’ve been riding for about a year. Started on an R3 and rode it for a few months then bought an R6. I’d say if a new rider wanted to start on a 600 the r6 isn’t that bad cuz all the torque is in the high rev range. If you just know in the back of your head keep the rpms under 10k unless you wanna start flying haha. I haven’t had issues with keeping the wheel down even when I yank the throttle.
I used to not care for the Yamaha blue but man it has grown on me. I really love this bike in blue.
The only pitfall with this bike is the price. I feel like 9000 msrp and 10000+ dollars out the door probably for a R7 is way too much. And them being so new that used bikes won't come into availability for a few years, I just wouldn't seem comfortable with 10K+ under my legs. Its also in a wierd place competition wise. 700 dollars more and you get an inline 4 cbr650 making 10 or 15 more hp. 1700 dollars less, you get the Ninja 650 which has the same longevity, similar engine smoothness, and that Supersport look. Plus a wide market of used variants.
Or you can get a new or slightly used ZX6R with far more tech, more power and more aftermarket support for the same price or less. Obviously not the same class/category of bikes but people are definitely weighing the tradeoffs (especially as a "next bike" versus a starter bike)
OC: Most definitely. You should get an R7. Seeing as the price for an R6 isn't really gonna be coming down anytime soon. I say a R7 variant of Holly would be nice.
OC: I'm not sure if you did that on purpose, but if you did it was a really nice play on words considering that Chase's old helmet was an Icon Variant. Haha👍👍
@@2DRMAV Yeah. Been watching Chase's channel since way back then. I started riding not long before discovering his channel. Always did like Holly and even got an Icon Variant cuz thought it was a cool looking helmet after seeing it on Chase's channel.
I had the R7 for my first bike, absolutely amazing. Ate shit a week after I bought it when a lady ran a stop sign at a blind corner, She was at fault, so I think I might be getting it back. For all I know, I'm the first person to have crashed the R7 lmfaoo
Damn that sucks. Hope your ok. My bike tried to eat a deer 🦌 about two weeks ago. Deer dead and the plastics damage bill was $1100. Just waiting on a back ordered part so I can put it all back together. It’s a 2021 that I paid cash for and rather than turn it in to insurance I just bought the parts myself. Don’t want rate increase. Lol
I started on a cbr 250 with 24 horsepower. It was perfect, highly recommend. I started off as a pretty good rider but man I made a lot of mistakes. It just takes time. I didn't lose a penny when I sold it, and learned how to really ride it. That's what your focus needs to be in the beginning, and low hp helps you to learn and actually ride. When I stepped up to a triumph daytona I was ready, it was appropriate, and it was so fun.
I take that. R3 any day of the week for training and I won't look back and regret it for being a reliable and beginners ,user friendly bike .
OC my R7 reservation is set for delivery in September, would be cool to see you having one at the same time, mods and what not
I’m on a Drz400sm and when it was down I was put on a loaner Tiger 800 and I loved how quick it was but the 400 is lighter. All I’m saying is a lighter bike is easier to start on compared to a heavier bike
As for the total beginner, this is the perfect video. I really like it. honestly, I had a few tears while watching. Voice, info, nice motorcycle. My choice was at R3 or R6, but I made my choice after this video. Didn't know R7 exist, and now this IS my choice. Especially the question about weight was tingling to me, and 414 lb or 180 Kg is woooh good for me.
OC crew!! 😎 thanks for the advice I’m definitely debating on the R3 and R7
Great video, I'm already waiting for my R7 to be available! :) What I'd love to see about this bike is like 'in depth' review which includes showing the storage capacity under rear seat, etc. Dunno why but almost nobody makes these!
I didn't say these are important things and none of them were considered as pros or cons during my selection process. Although R7 is not available in Europe at all - you can't even see it in the dealership until October. So, for me, it would be nice to cover that :)
OC: You totally should i’d love to see it get track prepped and thanks for the video the R7 is gonna be my first bike (already preordered) and these videos excite me as i wait for it’s arrival
Only thing from a design perspective that I'm not a huge fan of, is the front turn signals. I can't stand how far this stick out from the body. I understand its from an aspect of making them visible, but I feel like they could've formatted the design more into the front fairings and still have the signals forward and visible
Bro I so agree with the 650 being a good beginner bike that you can keep for years!. I got my Ninja 650 as first bike in 2007..that's 15 years ago and still rides it for commute! oc
650 and R7 are in the same category. Good power, smooth delivery. As long as you're not a total clutz they are perfect beginner bikes
similar category. hondas 650's make 20hp more and have a different motor characteristic, husquvarna's 701 makes more torque with about the same power i think?
What am I arguing you are right lul
OC - I really want one next season as my first bike!
I bought a new r7 as a first bike and I’ll admit you gotta grow into how to ride it but it’s been a great bike and definitely fun to ride first add on you need is tank grips they are a game changer
Man. I have some riding experience from my younger days and am looking to get back into it. I think the R7 would be a great platform but i just cant get over those damn indicators. Why didnt yamaha put em in the mirrors? Hopefully some mods will come out to change em. Really love the bike and thank you for the info. New sub.
OC: I actually think it's an interesting idea to get an R7! Lmao I mean you've got the mt-10, a naked liter bike with 4 cylinders. Might be interesting to get a smaller cc with sport fairings and fewer cylinders. Also hasn't seen so much of R7, so I think it'll be a cool chase thingamabob, idk.
OC awesome review. Really helpful. Was looking at buying an R3 as a starter bike, but I had the same thought you mentioned later in the video which is: I’m gonna be riding my first bike for years, and I don’t want to end up really comfortable riding and be stuck on a 300cc or trade up. I’m also really tall so I feel like I need a bigger bike. Your review made me a little less nervous about starting on a 700cc since the R7 is so relatively tame. I’m so excited to get it this week. Thanks for the video!
What you get
This won’t be my first bike but my first super sport. I think you sold me. Thanks for the informative video, extremely helpful man
Thank you so much for this info. I'm looking to get back into riding and love the look of the Yamaha bikes. I've been thinking between the R3 and the R7 but i've driven a 750 before so I think I can handle the R7. The reliability info is extremely valuable. Thanks again and hope we cross paths in the near future!
OC: man been looking for a good beginner bike and was thinking the R3 but I’m 6’2 and think maybe the R7 is a better choice. Might need to snag one
Just because a bike has more displacement, doesn't make the bike physically bigger.
The R7 assuming it's similarly sized as the mt07 is borderline as big as a cb500f/cbr500r. Being 6,2 you'd be better off on a cb500x or a yamaha t7, but you'd have to like the looks of adventure bikes. Or go for the sumos/cross bikes like the Honda crf300, they usually tend to be pretty tall.
You'll just have to believe me, when I first saw a panigale in person I was shocked at how small they were, would have been too small for my 5'11. But the v4's got width and length to compensate the height
Idk but it sure as hell gonna be my second motorcycle. I've been on the fence on what to upgrade up to. (I started on a 300cc) but the R7 is just 😤👌 MMM exactly what I was looking for
OC - I just ordered my first motorcycle. Well, I put a down payment on a 2021 MT-09SP. They are on back order at my local shop. I wanted all the different mode, the 6-Axis IMU, a quick shifter and cruise control. I'm used to a clutch as most of the cars I've owned had manual transmissions, and I used to race bicycles so I'm comfortable leaning to steer. Just because it's a 'fast bike' - doesn't mean I have to wind it out in each gear. I can drive it like an old man, even though I'm extremely young at 63. My next step is to take the MTC next month. I figure it'll take at least 2 months for the bike to arrive, so I'm in no hurry. I love the videos - keep 'em coming!
How much did you put down
@@johnnygonzalez4209 I put down $3,000, but they'd have taken $500. I've got one payment left, then it's 100% mine
Great hi-quality video as normal. I don't see anybody else mention it, but there is a lot of whistling noise in the audio when you hit around 50 mph. I think cause the audio is so good/clear it stands out. Maybe just me, but thought I'd mention it as constructive criticism.
Seems like kind of an expensive bike to start on and have your first couple drops on just to loose $2-3k+ on it when you sell it for something bigger. IMO if you wanna start on the R7 just wait until you can find them used and in the meantime get a used R3.
This is good advice, you can absolutely rail on a used small displacement bike while you learn and get more comfortable with motorcycles in different situations.
I have an R3 and I also love my R3. That being said...I really wouldn't mind upgrading to an R7 when possible! LOL
I started with a ZX-10R. 6 weeks later went down a tooth in the front and up 2 in the rear. PC3 intake exhaust tuned it ohlins damper. Gold chain. Never wrecked the bike after 3 years sold it for more than I paid. Probably rare but it’s possible if you’re mature for your age and always think about the dangers of riding
I started with an '03 R6, it's my first bike and this season is my first riding season! haven't "haddalayerdown", only gently laid the bike over when stopped or really slow (still getting used to the clutch!). some of the fairings, mainly on the right side, have road rash and a couple of cracks from being dropped at speed on a track by a previous owner, but is otherwise a beautiful bike! as everyone has already pointed out, you can start on anything so long as you're mature enough to handle it! love my psychopath bike, great content chase
Great video Chase!
As an experienced rider, I think this is the best thing since sliced bread, for both beginners and advanced riders. I will definatly have one in my stable when available:)
I’m an amputee and still looking forward to getting a sport bike! Recommendation between the R3 and the R7? I’m probably going to have it about 6years until trade in.
R7 just so you don’t grow out of it :)
I will say, as someone who rode dirt bikes from ages 8-20. I started on a 23’ r7 last year, and if you’re someone who has good judgement, and knows their limit, this bike is phenomenal!
Part of the thing that attracted me to the R7 is its lack of ride modes and electronic aids. I dont want traction or wheelie control, i dont want eco or sport mode... I want to be in full control, the only thing i want is ABS which is the only one this bike has. I just put a down payment on a 2022 R7 yesterday! And i cannot be more excited to pick it up!!!
Putting the weight on legs not hands, that's important. Hope I heard this earlier, learned it the hard way. 🤣
learned the hard way? Your wrists f*** for life now or?
@@Daniel-dj7fh not that hard fortunately, just shifting the weight to handle bar at braking and the handlebar slipped and twisted down (it was a used ninja 650r) which pulled on the brake cable and fully locking the front brake. Luckily it was in a parking lot and speed is low. I involuntarily did my first front wheelie with the bike standing vertical, and then we both landed on the outside of my left leg. 🤣 All damage was a dent on the tank and a broken foot peg. I'm okay
@@dearbulls I wouldn't say it's hard but if you need to trailbreak you're probably going too fast for the public road to begin with. Also load at the front in a corner could wash that out. I'd rather have the rear wash out any day over the front doing that
@@Daniel-dj7fh nah, it was very early when I first started to ride the bike and I misread the guide. Reading the DMVs rule book which said "70% brake force on front and 30% on rear", so I did exactly than using mostly front brake to slow down. It's not trailbreaking, just some stupid language barrier. I'd be better off if I didn't read it at all and just ride like a bicycle 😆
@@dearbulls yeah the DMV’s 70-30 front/rear is not so accurate for sport bikes. Stoppies are 100-0 lol
I’m going back and forth between R7 and Ninja 650. Love the look of the R7 but the price tag and the larger fuel tank make me lean toward the 650. Would love to hear folks who know either with detail opinions! I’ve ridden dirt bikes by both brands so I don’t really have a brand preference.
The r7 is a true-to standard super sport regarding ergonomics and despite the 74hp power is there too. The suspension and quality is also on par with other super sports. The ninja 650 is a great bike, but it’s not a sports bike by any means. It’s what we would classify as a sport touring motorcycle, it’s still very sporty but it’s standard suspension, along with its upright seating position really puts it into a class comparable to the tracer 700, the Honda nc700, and other sport touring motorcycles utilizing a p-twin engine. The r7 is really a competitor for the RS660 and the cbr650.
I ended up buying a ninja 400 and 3 months later got rid of it and bought a ZX6R, If Yamaha had this bike out back when I started I would've bought it and been chillin'. definitely faster than a 300 but not as cumbersome as a 600 man that's a good middle ground, As a street bike I don't see anything that's better.
Not as cumbersome in what way? It weighs just as much as a 600 with 50 less hp. To me a 72 hp bike would be more cumbersome to push through traffic and a 600 is the perfect middle ground 🤷.
@@clutchboi4038 if you're brand new the weight and the hp of the R7 will be much easier to handle compared to riding on a 600, I ride a 600 I know what it feels like to ride as well as body position, Yamaha made this for the street, it's not a race bike with lights.
I rode Harleys for years but have been off bikes for a few years. I'm looking to move to a sport bike, I don't need a "starter" bike but don't need to buy a bike to go out and do 150 either. The one thing I don't want is to get bored with the power. This looks like a good compromise.
it all depends on the riders skill as u grow and experience everyday riding.. i ride a 600cc but im more having fun in a 300cc even at traffic im more comfortable
OC:You didn't make a single comparison with anything other than a Yamaha. My first thought was how it compares to the CBR650R and I'm left still wondering. This kinda seems like a Yamaha commercial.
True the thumbnail did say he would compare it to other bikes rather then give his opinion on the bike itself being good for starting on or not.. some people
@@colbyd.5044 my bad. I forgot how unusual it is to compare a product to it's competitors when doing a review... some people.
@@WASTED__POTENTIAL no worries man now you know. That would be better suited for a Yamaha commercial this guys just going over whether the bike in particular is good for beginners. Don’t beat yourself up easy mistake!
I’m definitely starting on a r7 after watching this 💪🏽
I started on a r3. I miss having a bike, sold it when I moved. Still in shitty Illinois but I'd love to snag one of dese. I loved the r3. I just rode that bitch to work but I loved it. Always felt like a badass especially with my exhaust.
Hopefully R7 will be available in malaysia 😆
and in the Philippines..:)
YAMAHA: So how much of RDNA do u want?
MT07: YES!!
My first bike was my Ducati 848. Still alive. The thing with throttles, is you can always close them. I think the R7 is a good power level, for a beginner with a bit of restraint.
OC - THE R7 IS A MUST BUY & KEEP HEIRLOOM MACHINE. But The R3 is a much superior choice as a starter bike for a long list of reasons that begin with ergonomics & cost.
It's a great looking bike and I could see a larger person starting on it.. Folks not comfortable on a R3.
They’d have more fun and save a good bit of money going the MT 07 route. Think the R7 was a missed opportunity. Not sure why they brought back the R7 nameplate on a bike that doesn’t live up to the original.
Nah, the R7 is a small bike. I test rode one and I'm a bigger guy and found the R7 to be cramped, though it rides amazing.
Yes, it is.
Torque delivery across rpm is linear which eliminates unpredictability. So, if you're not a complete moron, you'd know "if unsure, half the dose" which applies to rpm and throttle as well. 🤷♂️
Arguably, stalling is not as bad as an unexpected novice wheelie. (Arguable because if you're not the rider then it's usually quite funny)
no its not
An electric moto is linear feeling. This feels anything but linear despite the torque curve looking that way on paper. There is a subtle bimodal feel to the power. It is brilliant nonetheless.
for indian roads we adjust with yamaha r15(155 cc)
I like the fact that he talks a lot about reliability because that’s something as a beginner rider you don’t always take into account, I bought a KTM RC 125 as my first bike mostly because of the laws in the Eu but also because in my eyes it looked good I have now had that bike for 2 years and have spent approximately spent 2000 dollars on fixing it because it’s just not put together that well, that’s a why I’m looking into getting the R7 (35kw) eu laws😅 and I can’t wait buuuuuut it’s close to 19.000dollars where I’m from so wish me luck😂
I'd love to see a MT-07 SP with the R7 suspension, gearing, engine tune. As a bigger guy I did find the R7 to be cramped
I'd have gotten an MT-07 SP, but they don't make 'em, so I got a MT-09 SP....WCYD?
We’re in the United States until freeway comes then we are in Mexico.
exactly lol
Dope video. Really consider this as my first bike. This video really helped a lot.
I never thought I would feel this way, but the more I ride, the more I think you should start with a 250 and learn how to thrash it before getting something bigger.
You can absolutely learn how to ride on anything, but I think it will make you a better rider if you start small, learn how to ride to its limits, then get something bigger.
Yes, it might just be the best 650 class sportbike to start on. The throttle response is butter smooth on the R7, I found it very easy to ride even if I found it a bit cramped (it is smol bike). The tuning on the R7 version of the CP2 is not jerky at all, may be the smoothest throttle I've ever ridden. And the power is so linear that it's not going to get away from you. If it was a bit more comfortable I'd totally consider one as it has near perfect handling in the twisties, maybe the best canyon bike ever.
This isn't a 650 it's a 689 it's in a class of it's own really
OC : Yes! Get the R7 AND a gym membership. That enginehawk jacket fits too tight on you
OC; just had my first day on the range at the local CMSP in southern California, and definitely looking forward to getting into this hobby/skill. Thanks for the great info.
I am from bangladesh. Here maximum 165cc bikes are legal. Still i watch your videos about the big bikes. May be one day i will buy one of these
OC: I think this would be a great bike to own and modify.
That's Terrible advice......... new riders should absolutely get the the Sag/Pre-load adjusted to there weight. It's extremely crucial point of safety. Especially with Riders that tend to grad the front Brake to hard.
It’s also horrible to tell a brand new rider to get a brand new bike that they will more than likely drop 12 times in the parking lot on the first day! 🙄
My problem with any new bike as a beginner bike is exactly that - it's a new bike. If you can "afford" it then I suppose it's okay to start on, but I feel like a used SV650S provides all of the same sporting experience at less than a third of the starting price of this.
OC: I feel like I could ride the R7 and I’ve never been on a bike. And why is because I would respect the bike and grow more at a time by taking my time. Also I’m 6’2 and my weight is 185. I also look at it as almost like riding a old Tenspeed or mountain bike. If you are going fast down a hill and turning left or right you barely touch the handlebars with just a little leaning. But if you going slow then you would have to turn the handlebars. The difference is Tenspeed or mountain bikes don’t have motor’s and clutch or throttle. Now besides being a two wheel and having breaks they all have gears just use differently but same purpose if that makes sense. But yeah respect the bike and be safe learn everything you need to know about a motorcycle and take your time.
Would this be a good second bike or would I be unsatisfied? oc
You would definitely be satisfied
@@p.chakraborty4453 I’m coming off of a dr650 I’m about to pull the trigger on pre ordering one of these at my local dealer 🤣
@@jordanpoor8006 hm, definitely double check by testing one before booking mate.
@@p.chakraborty4453 alright I’ll see if I can’t schedule a test drive somewhere
@@p.chakraborty4453 any other recommendations for a good second bike ? 🏍
OC: No, you don’t need it. Besides, how many r7s would you have to go through before the universe allowed you to keep it? Ik it took a lot of stolen r6s before the universe just let you have it.
My R6 is the single best purchase I’ve ever made, I truly don’t find it to be uncomfortable (not that it’s the most economically mindful machine out there) and it’s brought out a whole mischievous fun loving side of me that I didn’t know existed
U can start on any bike. The question is, how long are you going to survive?
ive been watching alot of videos on this bike and been riding my LS650 around for a little over 2000 miles and had a detonation recently and while im rebuilding that i wanted to get something more funand sporty and ive been leaning towards an R6 then i saw this and immediately was hooked and wanted one my bestfriend has a Cb300R and it was a tad faster than my 650 and ive been wanting another sport bike and i can definetly say this is the one im going with thanks Chase and everyone else im gonna enjoy that bike my local dealer has one and im going to check it out on my next day off.
My teacher when I first learned how to ride through the schooling told me anyone can start on a 600, but anyone can also end on one. If youre responsible, you can ride it. My R6 has done me absolute wonders (I'm Canadian). But I've known one person who's passed away on one and two other who got injured.
OC: Most definitely you guys’ shop is down the road from where I live. When you passed Charlie’s II I was like “Oh shit! Love that place!” 😂
Anyways- as someone who’s interested in riding, seems like a very informative and solid video! Thanks a bunch!
Since its an mt07 is basically that I'd say yeah it's a first bike allot of places in UK use them for training I did and the instructor told me to get an mt09 or else I'd get bored quick and he wasn't wrong the mt09 is a beast just hope the bring out an r9
I started with an r3 as a beginner and I'm still iffy on right turns and u turn...and the funny thing is I feel I'm a seasoned 155cc rider. The r3 humbled me
When it comes to adjustable suspension you dont really have to grow into it. The fronts too stiff, kicking over cracks and bumps? Dial out some stiffness/dampening. Opposite problem? Opposite solution. Takes seconds, and you can take your time really dialing it in. Never too late to learn suspension tuning. For cornering, tighter and lower front end, with a bit of give for emergency braking, and a softer/taller rear, for absorbing undulations mid corner and allowing the power to be smoothly applied without a twitchy rear end.
OC: can’t wait for mine to arrive in Aus in December. Upgrading from a Ninja 400 and think this will be the perfect bike to suit my new abilities and confidence moving on from my first ever bike
OC: Well, Chase, please get the R7 for yourself coz I see you love that bike. I guess I'll have to wait longer for my turn.
OC: Do it. I am actually getting one in November. It'll be bike number 6. Im downgrading a lot of HP as my current daily is a ninja zx7r. About 50 less HP. However, I feel my Ninja is no fun anymore on the streets as I matured a bit and havent been lanesplitting at 110mph and doing stupid stuff as often. So I am intentionally getting something more reasonable.