Myth Busted - The Real Truth About Header Wraps
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- A 9.5 year Real World Test of Exhaust Wrap. Is it any good? Does it work? Is it Bad for my Exhaust? Why Some Bikes Should NEVER Have it Installed. Are There Any Real Benefits?
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Oops i accidentally used BBQ sauce under my wraps, smells great tho!
I bet! 😂
not a bad idea, hmmmm...
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Bro...your coment kill me hahaha 😅
Too funny!!! 🙌
Thanks for sharing. I wrapped my thunderheaders years ago for a couple of reasons. One, got tired of occasionally having to adjust the shields to stop the rattling/squeeking noises that would eventually occur. Two, liked the look of the wrap.
Glad to hear that it helps with performance be it minimal. I was unsure if wrapping them would help or hurt with cooling of the engine but after one ride without shields or wrap was intolerable it was obvious to go with the wrap. I felt, but couldn't prove, that radiated heat to the engine would be reduced if pipes were wrapped. Shields only protected the rider's legs from heat, not the engine. I appreciate your videos.
Cool deal!
Glad you're liking the videos.
Appreciate your comment.
If you don't ride for a couple of weeks you deserve rusty pipes 🤣👍🖖
Lol, well, especially if you put the ole girl up wet.
Tim i always wipe my bike down before i park it, i don't have rusty pipes however my bike might have to sit for a couple of weeks, i work for a trucking co. so not everyone has nothing but time on their hands. You make it sound like if you don't ride every day a guy doesn't deserve to have a bike
@@mikegyug8675Everybody has different schedules, different priorities, and some have multiple bikes that ends up with one going long periods without being ridden. Just don't park one with wraps wet for long periods.
I just installed Cobra power port front pipes on my 2023 trike. I used the wrap under the heat shield. I have wrap on my 2003 Honda VTX1800 for 20 years now and it is still like the day that I installed it.
Love to hear it man! Thank you for your business and comment.
All good points. And I didn't know that I could fit the wrap under my pipe covers. Titanium wrap on my list now.
Thank you.
Yes, there are a lot of bikes running around with wrap that is totally hidden by the heat shields.
I think I'll coat the pipes, wrap it and then use a water resistant coating on the wrap. I'm going through RUclips learning the wrapping process. Sure glad this video came up. Thank you 🙏
Thanks for the comment, glad you like the video. 👍
If you use the wrap at the following link, it does not need a coating, and will hold up well.
www.dkcustomproducts.com/titanium-exhaust-wrap-dei-reduced-heat-improved-performance-dk-dei-t35.htm
always wrap towards headers bottom up then its seam protected towards the direction of travel less chance of water ingress as you ride along in wet hi from londonderry northern ireland like your common sense approach
Thank you for the comment! Glad you are finding the videos useful/interesting. 👍😎👍
Finally a clear , precise Video on what I'm looking for answers on, THANKS!
Great to hear!
Finally a video that I can relate to! I made my own exhaust with homemade baffles for my RK,2 into 2 shorty drag pipes. Sounds a lot like my old iron head with homemade drags,a nice distinguishable sound, if a little loud. Love the wrap I put on mine,but I’ve set a couple of pairs of jeans on fire sitting in traffic because the pipes get so hot (have to make some nice aluminium heat shields for it). Btw,I’ve always loved jockey shift,so having arthritis in both hands,I made my own jockey set up,but have a hand clutch also. Kicking in the pedal then grabbing the lever makes it much easier for me to pull,and in an emergency situation,I can put my foot down. Not a pretty set up,but no failure after 4 years.
Very cool what you've done.
Would love to see some photos of your Jockey set up. If you want to email them to Support@DKCustomProducts.com attention Kevin in the subject line.
You might like the benefits of some floorboard extensions...get your feet a little further away from the engine, (jeans too) and much more comfortable. Check em out at this link- www.dkcustomproducts.com/footpeg-mounting-hardware-c117-276.htm
I wrapped with the DEI Titanium wrap over the heat shields on my 2009 Sporty. I kept melting little bits of my boot on the Short Shot heat shields with my mid controls. I love the color/look and now I don't melt my boot!
Yeah, that's another good use/benefit for them that we did not mention. Thanks! 👍
Just what I needed to hear. Quick one, I might go with soft side bags on my Yamaha FJR. I'll wrap the mufflers that will be directly below the soft bags. Will this prevent enough muffler heat from baking the soft bags after I come to a stop? Thank you.
It will reduce felt heat a lot, but you would probably need to know what kind of heat resistance your bags have to know if the pipes would still bake the bags or not.
You can read a little more about the Exhaust wrap at this link - www.dkcustomproducts.com/titanium-exhaust-wrap-dei-reduced-heat-improved-performance-dk-dei-t35.htm
Thank you for commenting! MB
This is a wonderful video with some great info, but what I liked the most was seeing that you have responded to almost every question in the comments. Its kind of rare to see someone be so kind and helpful to their viewers. So I just wanted to wish you luck, and I hope to see you continue to make these awesome vids.
Man, glad you are liking the videos, and thank you for the kind words. 👍
Your pipes havnt rusted because you put that high temp paint on before wrapping it. Your bare metal isnt exposed. You can also use hi temp paint like you did, then wrap it, then another coat of hi temp paint over the wrap and all.
BBQ paint, which is what I used, is not as durable as chrome...so not sure why you came to that conclusion.
Also, the wrap we use should NOT be painted. It is a completely different type of wrap that should not be gotten wet before installing, nor should it have any coating put on it after installing.
You can see details on this superior wrap at this link- www.dkcustomproducts.com/titanium-exhaust-wrap-dei-reduced-heat-improved-performance-dk-dei-t35.htm
KP
I will say I wrapped mine in 2012 with the Fiberglass wrap. And 3.5 years ago I parked her in my driveway without a cover she sat for that long with put running not once. Cut the wrap off and her pipes don't have the first bit of rust on them. 🤘
Good deal! 👍
Thanks for some clarification. Yours looks great and thanks for dispelling some.of the myths about these wraps.
I am thinking of going this route to consolidate heat as a heat shield would.
How much heat do you think this keeps.from radiating outward?
Wrapping your pipes will increase your performance, while reducing radiant heat by up to 50%. I do believe it felt heat is something you are wanting to reduce you will be more than happy with the Exhaust Wrap.
You can see the Exhaust Wrap at this link - www.dkcustomproducts.com/titanium-exhaust-wrap-dei-reduced-heat-improved-performance-dk-dei-t35.htm
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Thank you for commenting! MB
Very informative as I have been reading up and already purchased the wrap. You absolutely cleared up a few facts for me. Many Thanks
Thanks for the comment, glad you found the video useful.
Thanks for the video! I'm getting ready to wrap my pipes becouse they are rusty plus the added bonus of not burning my legs is good.
My question-
Aprox. What length do you use for a V twin harley pipe? I know the front is a little longer. Thank you!
What year and model Harley? Are they factory pipes? Do you want to do just the headers?
You can use a tape measure to find out how long the part that you want to wrap is. Each roll of wrap is good for 11 feet of pipe.
www.dkcustomproducts.com/titanium-exhaust-wrap-dei-reduced-heat-improved-performance-dk-dei-t35.htm
What he says about thermal wrap making exhaust gasses flow out of the exhaust faster are not exactly true. In terms of the volume of gas flowing through the pipe, yes, the hotter the gas, the more volume it takes up. In this way you force the engine to pump out a greater volume of gas. That's not necessarily helpful, and in fact can create backpressure, which is not a good thing (although there are things that create back pressure that also help optimize wave pulses within the headers for greater volumetric efficiency at lower RPM, ergo better peak torque in most cases).
By allowing the pipes to radiate as much heat as possible, the gasses inside cool. What this means is that at a given cubic foot per minute flow rate, that actual MASS of exhaust gasses flowing out of the exhaust is greater (because the gas is more dense) - this is technically what we care about. But thicker fluids/gasses are more viscous also and there's frictional losses against the ID of the pipe, so there's some backpressure creation there too. There's a give and take. Basically, the degree to which wrap effects any of this is so tiny as to be nearly irrelevant to performance. Unless you have a turbocharged bike (in which case I would wrap my exhaust manifold before the turbine and leave it unwrapped after), none of this matters all that much for performance.
Thank you for your thoughtful comment.
@@DKCustomProducts And thank you for a helpful video about wraps. I learned a couple of things about their practical, real world use.
I had titanium wrap on my Softail for a couple of years it got ragged on the side going into to wind. I really liked the way it controlled the heat, but it didn't seem to last. I ride about 7,000 miles a year. I'd wrap my pipes again if I could figure out how to make the wrap last. I don't have other heat shields to put on top to help block the wind.
Must be how it was wrapped. I have this wrap on 2 bikes...one for almost 10 years and the other for 7 years.
Neither one with heat shields. One with around 25K miles and the other with over 35K miles.
The only little bit of fraying is where my boot heel rubbed, as seen in this video.
The instructions say to overlap the wrap by 1/4", but in the curves we were closer to an overlap of 1/2"...AND it is all wrapped very tightly.
That is good to know. I'll try again. Do you use any of the protective sprays or paint?
@@waygone6657 No sprays or paints, no getting the wrap wet first. Use the wrap at this link, it is different than most- www.dkcustomproducts.com/titanium-exhaust-wrap-dei-reduced-heat-improved-performance-dk-dei-t35.htm
Thanks, I'll try it. I use other DEI products, I trust them.
@@waygone6657 Good Deal!
Help please! I just learned about exhaust heat and pants not mixing very well together when it comes to my safety.. I watched your video an now I'm pretty sure, I gotta get my exhaust wrapped. I've got stainless steel chrome pipes and ready to order some wrap but can't figure out how wide the wrap should be. I see widths of: 15mm, 25mm, 50mm and 75mm and more. How much is wide enough?
You can see the wrap that we use on our bikes and offer our customers at the link below. It is 2" wide and 35 feet long. This wrap is long/wide enough for 11" pipes. It will certainly help with reducing felt heat.
www.dkcustomproducts.com/titanium-exhaust-wrap-dei-reduced-heat-improved-performance-dk-dei-t35.htm
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Thanks for commenting! MB
How about using wrap over top of stainless flex pipe. 5 inch diameter flex.
Turbo down pipe, flex transition, then more hard pipe.
How will it handle the movement that the flex has to endure?
I have no idea. Never tried it.
Thank you! I've been debating whether to wrap my new pipes before installing them. Do suggest leaving all one peice when going to a 2-1? Thanks
Great question. Nothing wrong with using 2 pieces (or more) if that makes the wrapping process easier.
With a 2-1 it is probably easiest w/ 3 pieces, certainly at least 2 pieces.
@@DKCustomProducts thank you for the response! Love the videos.
@@1984jtk Thanks man. Glad you're finding them useful.
I put this wrap on an istunt exhaust on my Grom. Looks really good. Especially in the sun.
Awesome! Glad you like the Exhaust Wrap! I hope your are enjoying the benefits of having it installed as well! Thank you for commenting! MB
What's the difference between glass thread and titanium, like I want to wrap the exaust and I ordered a glass thread but I'm scared that will damage the exaust as I have seen many reviews on glass thread wraps. Do I have to consider for titanium or these glass thread will do?
Glass thread is a type of fiberglass wrap. Fiberglass wrap has the following weaknesses, which is why we go with titanium wrap, which does not have these weaknesses.
Does not hold heat as well
Does not last as long
You have to get it wet to be pliable to install
Needs to be coated after install to increase durability
The colors fade more easily
I would send the glass wrap back and get a titanium wrap...you can see more details on it at this link- www.dkcustomproducts.com/titanium-exhaust-wrap-dei-reduced-heat-improved-performance-dk-dei-t35.htm
Thank you for commenting! 😎 MB
Caterpillar sells flat black exhaust spray cans that is way better than bbq paint.
Oh and super respect to you. !
Thank you for the tip. Am working on another build and will try that out.
Is there any chance it causes any problems with the computer of the bike?
Definitely want to wrap my pipes.
No it will not mess with the computer of the bike it will just help reduce felt heat from the exhaust.
You can see more about the Exhaust Wrap at this link - www.dkcustomproducts.com/titanium-exhaust-wrap-dei-reduced-heat-improved-performance-dk-dei-t35.htm
Please feel free to contact us with any questions;
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Thank you for commenting! MB
This vid is 3 years old. Hopefully I can find an answer. Have a ( I know not a bike) but put an aftermarket dmc exhaust on my Polaris razor 900 xp. I didn't know about wetting it or silicone,I wrapped it and started it and it started smoking on one side closest to the head. It's duel exhaust down both sides now. Wasn't with stock . Can anyone please help this lady on what to do? Or why even it would smoke. I live in a small town in az. Any shop here won't help me with bringing it in to look they say. I can't imagine the price of that for just an answer or help with what to do
Anyone know ,?
Not sure what you wrapped it with. The DEI Exhaust wrap should not be wetted or silicone, or any other liquid on it.
If you have used a different wrap, we cannot help you. All the other wraps we tested were not anything we would run on our bikes, or any other engine, like your Razor.
It could just need a few hours to burn off whatever is on there...or ???
I wish we could be of more help. Not all wraps are the same.
IF you are using the DEI wrap, as seen at the link below, there may be a little smoke after it is first installed, but it should stop within an hour or so.
www.dkcustomproducts.com/titanium-exhaust-wrap-dei-reduced-heat-improved-performance-dk-dei-t35.htm
new rider here. can you put wrap to an exhaust with brackets on them? the brackets look bulgy
You can! We usually wrap around the bracket. Meaning that you will wrap up to the bracket, then cross over the bracket and keep wrapping.
You can see more about the Exhaust Wrap at this link - www.dkcustomproducts.com/titanium-exhaust-wrap-dei-reduced-heat-improved-performance-dk-dei-t35.htm
Feel free to contact us with any questions;
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Thank you for commenting! 😎 MB
Man,you made me go google a couple of things;
Titanium,you say ? isn't that just plain old fiberglass,titanium *color*
---the thermal conductivity of titanium is 19 W/mºC and stainless steel's is 16
So you see that titanium does not insulate,it is a metal, why would they put it in there;
but,what do i know? i may be wrong.
"Made from Pulverized Lava Rock, stranded into fiber material in a Tight Weave"
It is the Lava Rock that has the unique insulating value.
"Titanium exhaust wrap with LR technology is constructed from pulverized lava rock, extruded into fibers, and then woven into a tight weave, giving it titanium-like strength and toughness."
Titanium is just the name.
Ceramic coated my exhaust before i wrapped them. Hopefully that will prevent the rust
Just don't put it up wet, you will be good! I know you will enjoy the benefits of having it installed. Thank you for your business and for commenting! MB
good video. the rust issue also depends on the exhaust pipe material. if its a good stainless pipe, it wont rust as easily as a metal pipe.
Yes, if leaving the wrap wet at all, the type of metal will definitely factor in. Thank you for the comment.
So, in fact, if put away wet…. It will in FACT trash your pipes.
If done enough times, especially for long periods of time just sitting, most of the time it will.
I have a high pipe scrambler that I want to take for a week long desert ride. Could the pipes get too hot due to the wrap??? Are there any downsides to wrapping? Thank you!
Can't think of any reason the pipes would get too hot for their own good....not sure of the quality pipe used, so can't say for sure...if it is as good as the stock metal, no problem for the pipes.
Too Hot for You...that is another question. But they will be cooler for You than if not wrapped.
Only downside (besides that some folks don't like the look) is if you consistently park the bike with the wrap wet.
I'm partial to black. But I really like the titanium look of the wrap. Good video man. Thank you Sir.
Thanks for the comment, good to hear you enjoyed the vid! 👍
you ever put a heat gun on your engine the temp will be much higher. losing power and ware on the engine.
Heat Guns can be inconsistent. Here is a video on the subject that you may find useful/interesting - ruclips.net/video/afgon9Qc1B8/видео.html
Thanks for commenting! 😎 MB
I would think, if you park it wet, the heat from the pipe would evaporate the water.
If you wash it and then park it, nope. But if you were riding in the rain, and were fully heat soaked when you parked it, probably it would completely evaporate.
Thanks for commenting. 👍 KP
Yes!! Finally iv been telling people about why wraps are good! It does my hart good to see your videos!
Thank you! Glad you're enjoying them. 👍
Yeah, wraps have a bad rap with a lot of folks.
if its so good then why dont the engineers who made the bike put them on from the factory?
There are a lot of upgrades that are better for the rider and the bike that is not put on the bike stock. This Exhaust Wrap is great for reducing felt heat for the rider and passenger. Just an aftermarket upgrade that works.
Here is a video on the subject of Harley's being a Blank Canvas and fully customizable that you may find interesting - ruclips.net/video/wV-2HBtg85Y/видео.html
Thanks for commenting! 😎 MB
a bit extra performance means a bit more gas....not making it more efficient?
The faster exhaust gas velocity will make it more efficient AND more power. Now if use the more power to go faster, or accelerate faster, then you are going to get the same or worse MPG. BUT, if you twist the throttle less to accelerate the same and you ride the same speed, you will get better MPG.
Did you have to prep the pipes before applying the wraps?
No, it is a pretty simple procedure. You can see the instructions at this link - www.dkcustomproducts.com/media/wysiwyg/exhaust/tipsect/wrap/DEIwrapinst..pdf
You can see more about the Titanium Exhaust Wrap at this link - www.dkcustomproducts.com/titanium-exhaust-wrap-dei-reduced-heat-improved-performance-dk-dei-t35.htm
Please feel free to contact us with any questions;
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Thank you for commenting! MB
hey! I was hopping you could answer a fiew questions about heat wrapping? I'm about to wrap my yamaha virago's original pipes and I was wondering how hard is it to remove heat wrap, and is there a chance it will damage the chrome finish and if so how can I prevent it? I'm going to use the regular black heat wrap.
Thank you in advance, and cheers for the video =D
Yes, it can damage the chrome, especially if parked with the wrap wet. We have only used regular black heat wrap once. Never again.
Here is what we use and have never had any damage, and it is easy to remove...but, still don't put it up wet.
www.dkcustomproducts.com/titanium-exhaust-wrap-dei-reduced-heat-improved-performance-dk-dei-t35.htm
You answered my questions perfectly. Thank you. I’m going to put the wrap on my 2011 super glide with Vance and Hines
Cool, glad you found the video useful. 👍
Don't know if you mentioned it but , does using high temp silicone spray (applied correctly) help or not necessary ??
Thanks for your generous consideration,
Sincerely .......................
With this Titanium Wrap it is not necessary, nor recommended.
Bought a set of Ultima 2" staggered drag pipes for my 2016 dyna wide glide. Would wrapping them with titanium exhaust wrap as you've demonstrated here and adding monster baffles as well, help with the exhaust back pressure and still keep my power in mid range do you think?
You will get the most power low and mid range power if you use the Thunder Torque Inserts™, as seen at this link- www.dkcustomproducts.com/thunder-torque-inserts-c57-338.htm
You also may find this video very interesting on the subject of backpressure- ruclips.net/video/pr6z00gL5Yg/видео.html
They just say don't put on titanium exhaust piping
Yes, they do say that wrapping exhaust made of Titanium can hold too much heat and make the titanium alloy turn brittle and prone to premature cracking.
But, if your exhaust is not made of titanium the wrap is a great add for reducing felt heat.
Thank you for commenting! MB
What keeps the heat from radiating out more ... wrap or shields ?
Thank you for your generous consideration,
Sincerely .................
We have never done a comparison, cannot answer that.
We do have quite a few Customers that put on the wrap, then put the shields back over, and are very pleased with how much it reduces the radiating heat.
Pictures of that here- www.dkcustomproducts.com/titanium-exhaust-wrap-dei-reduced-heat-improved-performance-dk-dei-t35.htm
hello Dk can you please help me i have a moped 50cc and my pipe always burning my rain cover for my moped 50 cc can i use this wrap ? even tho its a 50cc with 4t motor ?
It is just an Exhaust Wrap. It is a universal item. There shouldn't be any reason you can not use it. The wrap that we sell is 35' long and would probably be way too much for your moped exhaust, but we do not offer it in any other lengths.
You can see more about the Exhaust Wrap at this link - www.dkcustomproducts.com/titanium-exhaust-wrap-dei-reduced-heat-improved-performance-dk-dei-t35.htm
Thank you for commenting! MB
Hi ,can they also be used on Ducati monster?any other products in addition to these you can recommend for my bike, will try anything.Ty
The exhaust wrap will work.
I wish we could help you, but we have done no testing or R&D on the Ducati's. That is a fully liquid cooled bike...a bit surprising that heat is an issue. Have you tried getting a little richer tune on it?
I had someone tell me that if I put exhaust wraps on my bike that the heat being trapped in the pipes will cause the motor to run hotter, and may even melt the factory wire harness, knock sensor wires/switches, and cause all kinds of problems with shorts, and alternator issues. I have a 2009 Honda ST1300 (Sport Touring).
Is this accurate?
We have no experience with Honda's regarding this. It could very well be true about the electronics...and if the baffling in you exhaust is significant, it could make the engine run hotter.
@DKCustomProducts ah, okay. I have not yet changed the mufflers yet, but I will do so as soon as I can. The stock mufflers don't allow for any baffles to come out, but the slip-ons, do
@Forward_Unto_Dawn Sounds good!
What are your thoughts on wrapping over the heat shields? Or would you recommend wrapping the bare pipe. My heat shields are pretty weathered so looking at ways to improve the look. My main concern is felt heat so wasn’t sure if wrapping the bare pipe would be too hot.
You can wrap over the shields...not sure how effective it will be, or what it would look like.
Seems it would be better wrapping on the bare pipe. It is made for that, it is not too hot.
ive wraped my heat shields just for the look bigger beefer pipe look 09 softail standard @@DKCustomProducts
I got a 2016 FXDLS that came with that wrap on a Bassani Road Rage 3 stainless. I removed it the other day, and it definitely messed the pipes up, rust spots everywhere, just solid spotted rust. I am restoring it now with scotch brite. But I got it used, the exhaust now looks brand new again
Good to hear. Never know how it was treated in prior ownership, but with stainless there is usually very little rust, even if left wet.
Thanks for taking the time to explain about the exhaust wrap and why it used.
Glad to help! Thank you for commenting! MB
Please help. Can you exhaust wrap crome pipes? I have some Chrome short shots that I want to exhaust wrap a portion of but I keep running into mixed information. l've heard to never exhaust wrap Chrome or normal steel pipes.. only stainless steel pipe.. I also heard that you can exhaust wrap them but you need to put a high temp paint coating on them before hand. Is this false information? I would like to exhaust wrap my Chrome pipes without the hassle of having to sand the pipes and coat them. Thanks in advance!
Yes, you can exhaust wrap Chrome exhaust! In fact it is better if your exhaust is chromed or a high heat paint, the thermal wrap will help prevent your pipes from rusting.
You can see more at this link - www.dkcustomproducts.com/titanium-exhaust-wrap-dei-reduced-heat-improved-performance-dk-dei-t35.htm
Please feel free to contact us with any questions you might have;
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Thank you for commenting! MB
@@DKCustomProducts Thank you for the reply and clearing things up for me! I'll definitely be grabbing some of the titanium wrap from you guys. Also just subbed to your channel. After further investigation the description states my exhaust is "stainless steel material, a polish finish and the color is crome" I'm not sure if that changes things? Do I need to paint or coat the exhaust in anything before applying the titanium heat wrap?
You are most welcome! Yes, That is still fine, you do not have to paint it or coat it!
Always feel free to reach out with any questions;
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Thank you for commenting and for your future business! MB
Would wrapping my 22 Triumph Bonneville be ok?
We do not have any experience with these and Triumphs. If you have unrestricted exhaust (no baffles or very free flowing baffles, then it should be.
@@DKCustomProducts thank you
Is it true that the wrap reduces exhaust noise? I hope not
No it does not effect the sound of your exhaust!
The exhaust wrap only increases your performance by keeping the exhaust gases hotter within the pipe, while reducing radiant felt heat by up to 50%.
Here is a link to the description if you would like to read more about the exhaust wrap - www.dkcustomproducts.com/titanium-exhaust-wrap-dei-reduced-heat-improved-performance-dk-dei-t35.htm
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Looking for ideas to keep from getting burnt on the exhaust pipes. Would hate to lose the shiny chrome from wrapping. Flexible heat sheilds clamped and leg sheilds considered. Would the clamps damage my chrome pipes?
Dunno what kind of exhaust headers you are running.
Most HD header pipes have a chrome heat shield that clamps onto the header.
Remove the heat shields, wrap the headers, reinstall the heat shields over the wrapped headers. No damage to anything, and still have the chrome.
Look at the last 2 photos at the following link...one shows the headers wrapped and the next one shows the shields re-installed.
www.dkcustomproducts.com/titanium-exhaust-wrap-dei-reduced-heat-improved-performance-dk-dei-t35.htm
@@DKCustomProducts 2 heads are better than one. Daaahh. Thanks DK.
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Not sure if you got around to it, they make a silver heat wrap that looks fairly chrome like.
Good day from Toronto : I watched the video and liked it very much . Splendid demonstration . I was not aware that keeping the heat inside the pipe would cause the gases to flow faster . I came from along career in the military turbine engine business . Seeing titanium every day was a regular thing for me . I think the steel supplier industry sells titanium cheap if you buy lots and lots . I'm use to seeing titanium bar stock 12 feet long , 4 inches wide and 7/8 inch think . One piece of that cut into a short 6 inch long bar makes a regular block that would be made into one turbine blade . If you think of that block size , it would cost about $110.0 Can . Twice I have seen other industries grossly over charging for parts made of titanium . There still is an odd old belief that titanium comes from outer space or something like that , and therefore the high cost . I still roll my eyes and gasp at those people . Any how , very good video ! Have good one .
Glad you like the video! Interesting back story.
Thanks for sharing and commenting! 😎 MB
Thanks man! I got black vnh black pipe. Can i just wrap it as it is. Or i need to coat 1st or something.
Just clean the pipe, does not need to be coated. Make sure the pipe is clean and dry, then wrap it.
@@DKCustomProducts nicee. Subs 👍
@@ashraf1360 Thanks!
2019 HD Ultra Ltd, 114ci. I'm installing aftermarket headers and wanted to wrap them to reduce felt heat for my wife/passenger. I ordered the wrap from you guys. Will chrome headers make a difference for the wrap? Ive ordered from yall several times always good service and gear. Thanks in advance.
The wrap works great on chrome headers.
What many folks do is wrap the headers and then install the chrome heat shields over the wrap as shown in the video.
Thank you for your business, we appreciate it and it is great to hear that you are pleased with the service and the parts. 👍
Why do you think motorcross race bikes don’t wrap their pipes? I’ve Titanium wrapped 3 separate 450cc motocross bike exhaust pipes and ran them for as long as 3 years with zero detectable harm to the pipes. Just wash it often and run the Ike or a minute after to dry it.
Glad you like the Titanium Exhaust Wrap! Thank you for commenting! MB
I Just think they look cool on rats.
Agree 100!
KP
Great video Sir with 100% truth!! Had a 5.0 Foxbody and used cool- it exhaust wrap on a set of new long tube headers and they where on there for the 8+ years I had it before I sold it(Stupist damn thing I ever done, Damn do I miss that car!!) Going on 12 years since I sold it, seen the gentleman I sold it to last year and he's still has it and was talking to me about how great that header wrap is and still looks like it was just put on there.
Believe, if I'm not mistaken, it took me 6 to 8 hours to let it soak and then wrap each tube to get it extreamly has tight as I could and look like it was on each tube before they welded them together at the factory. And yeah it made a huge difference under the hood at keeping the temperature down.
Again great Informative video Sir!
That is awesome! I am glad that you had such a great experience with using the Exhaust Wrap. I am glad you like the video! Thank you for commenting! MB
Can you put the wrap on pipes that already have mileage on them? Or does it have to be applied to new pipes?
It does not need to be new pipes. The vast majority that get wrapped are with mileage already on them. The pipes on the sporty in this video...the header part of them, already had over 20k miles on them when they got wrapped almost 10 years ago.
Where does one find this titanium wrap?, and cost?
Here ya go- www.dkcustomproducts.com/titanium-exhaust-wrap-dei-reduced-heat-improved-performance-dk-dei-t35.htm
@@DKCustomProducts Thank you.
Kevin what about the heat shield liners
We have no experience with them.
We primarily work on getting the bike to the optimum temps and then find that we don;t have an issue with them feeling to hot.
Here's a link on the subject- www.dkcustomproducts.com/why-how-to-cool-down-the-twin-cam-engine-part-i-dk-cl-tc-dn-1.htm
Thankyou so much for this information...you answered every question I've been wondering....
Great, to the point explanation.
Glad you found the video helpful! Thank you for commenting! 👍 MB
What are your thoughts on wrapping the muffler, along with the exhaust on a 98 Shadow vt750? Also, I have the wrap, but they (the company) suggest soaking in water prior to insulation. Thank you
You have a different wrap than what we are talking about...can't really advise on whatever wrap you have.
The only wrap we've used, or recommend is seen at this link- www.dkcustomproducts.com/titanium-exhaust-wrap-dei-reduced-heat-improved-performance-dk-dei-t35.htm
It should not be wet when installed, nor does it need any coating.
‘21 Tri Glide owner with 10K miles looking to reduce felt heat. Any benefit to wrapping just the cat? ( Reluctant wrencher.)
Absolutely. That wrap, wherever you put it, will reduce the heat that is radiating.
That was some awesome information!
Glad that you like the video! You can see more about the Exhaust Wrap at this link - www.dkcustomproducts.com/titanium-exhaust-wrap-dei-reduced-heat-improved-performance-dk-dei-t35.htm
Thank you for commenting! 😎 MB
Ok so I have a question because I'm curious about everything to do with bikes. How does wrapping the header pipes give you more performance?
Good question!
It keeps the heat in the exhaust system. That makes the exhaust flow faster, The more exhaust gas velocity you have the fuller the fresh charge is on the intake stroke. That equals more power.
@@DKCustomProducts thanks for the lesson. Have a blessed day.
@@canttalk Thanks man. Back at you, hope you have a great weekend!
is there any gain with a stock header with the cat still in it ?
Good question- 2 comments
1. The amount of gain in power is small, most will not feel it. There is a gain, but it not on the level of many other mods, like a free flowing A/C, or an EBS, or a good tune, or TTI's. It is one of those things that is for squeezing out just a little bit more power.
2. We should have mentioned this in the video...but we do not recommend wrapping the actual cat if you are planning on riding 50k, 60k or more miles on your bike. Wrapping the cat can reduce the life expectancy of the cat by keeping too much heat in it.
Now, if you do plan on riding that many miles, but also plan on eventually getting rid of the cat...no harm. AND, YES, the wrap is effective at heat reduction and power gain in the stock header with the cat.
OR, you can wrap all the way up to the cat, and after the cat and it will not reduce life expectancy of the cat.
Would you recommend doing this to the entire exhaust or just locally on a car? I have a C7 Z06 which has the exhaust go around the transmission in the back of the car, radiating heat which is one of the main issues with the car overheating on the track.
Wrapping any type of exhaust piping is a crucial and important step when controlling exhaust temperatures and reducing radiant heat. Keeping exhaust gases hotter within the exhaust system helps in decreasing density and increasing the flow of exhaust gases, which will also result in an improved fresh charge.
Wrapping the exhaust from end to end will help reduce the radiant heat..
Couple of things to think about- It is NOT recommended to wrap the catalytic converter.
It is NOT recommended to wrap titanium exhaust, it can turn the titanium alloy brittle.
Thanks for commenting!
If HD had somebody like ^ this guy working for them they'd be in a helluva lot better shape.
Glad you're digging out parts.
Don't know anyone that wants to work for a publicly traded company that has to do bad stuff to the bikes to satisfy government regs. 🙁
@@markwinchester3005 It's their job to make $ for their shareholders. Of course, the more happier Customers you have, you should make more money.
@@markwinchester3005 Pretty sure none of my Harley's are pretty different than how they came off the line in terms of Comfort, Handling, Safety and Performance.
So, true dualed my evo. I put the standard dei header wrap on it. Frist, cleaned the crap out of the original pipes, fitted the trur dual pieces, got everything, where I wanted it. Spray painted them with some rather expensive high heat coating, baked them, used the rest of the spray on coating, and baked them again. Seriously though of putting them on then, they looked really good. But, since I already had the wrap, I went for it. I did, wet it as I installed, kept it really tight and even, then learned how to use the clamps for the wrap, with the tool for the clamps. Baked them dry slowly, then gave them two days to settle. Then, I used the coating, for the header wrap, let it dry, recoated twice more. Did this like 2 years ago, put lots of miles on it and haven't had any issues. Take your time doing it and it will last. Put them on the bike, put the heat shields on, installed some V/H full flow slipons, a much better air cleaner, did the rejetting on my carb(mikuni), and haven't looked back. I love my reversion sound, as I drop off the throttle. LOL.
Sounds like a sweet set up. Glad you're enjoying your ride!
For others, realize, the Titanium Wrap in this video does NOT need any coating as Charles did with his wrap.
In ny I been using bbq paint on all the exhaust I install to help maybe it last a week longer it actually works better than I expected
Awesome! I am glad you found something to preserve your exhaust. This exhaust wrap is really to help with reducing felt heat and less about preserving the exhaust.
Thank you for commenting! MB
Thanks that helped make up my mind I have a 65 GTO and they are notorius for baking the starter and solenoid and I have headers it gets hot in the cab so Im hoping this will help
Nice. My brother had a built GOAT.
Yes, the wrap will reduce the header heat, and a bit of the actual engine heat..
I just did a pipe wrap on my 06 Polaris sportsman 800 it gets hot even at night the wrap should definitely help.
Yes, it will reduce the heat radiating from wherever you wrapped.
Going to be wild!!!
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I'll save this video and probably install the wraps on my cbr300.
Cool!
Thanks for the comment.
been wrapping my headers for quite a while. when done right as yall have proven it lasts. and titanium is the way to go. yass umm!
Thank you for the comment. Yes, they help produce more power and less radiant heat to the rider and passenger. Simple effective mod.
Hello mate would it make the exhaust pipe vibrate less
Normally if a pipe is vibrating there are exhaust hangers and exhaust brackets that are suppose to help with that. It is possible that the Wrap could change the harmonics of the pipe and it could possible help with vibration, but this is not something that we have personally tested! Glad you like the video!
@@DKCustomProducts thank you mate I got new hangers and super tight brackets but my exhaust won’t stop vibrating at tips very bad when I put my hand around the middle pip my hand seems to take all the vibration and the tips stops shaking. Any thoughts on that mate ?
@@bignae8845 Could be so many things, also, not knowing what bike and mods done to it, which could make a big difference.
Could be a performance cam with a lot of overlap, A bad tune, or something wrong with the engine. Worn out motor-mounts. Need of more exhaust brackets.
And there may be more I'm not thinking of right now.
That said, there is always going to be some vibration of the exhaust, even on stock bikes.
this is the info i was looking for! nice video well explained. thank you sir.
Glad you liked the video! Thank you for your support and for commenting! MB
Thanks a lot for the info in this video! I have a 2005 Heritage Softail Classic, and the number 2 exhaust pipe burns holes in my motorcycle pants whenever I come to a stop and put my feet down. I'll definitely try putting some of this titanium tape under the heat shields on my pipes. Hopefully this will work. Thanks again for all your help for videos.
You are most welcome! I am glad you find the videos informative. Let us know how you like the wrap!
i have a 2002 electra glide classic with true duels how much or long of wrap do i need?
Great question. One roll of this wrap will cover 11 feet of 1.75" diameter exhaust. Measure how much of the pipe you will want to wrap, then get either one or two rolls depending on if it is under or over 11 feet total.
The wrap is 2 inches wide and 35 feet long. For maximum thermal performance it should have an overlap of 1/4".
www.dkcustomproducts.com/titanium-exhaust-wrap-dei-reduced-heat-improved-performance-dk-dei-t35.htm
Do you have any feedback on the black titanium heat wrap, as far as color fading?
I'm thinking of wrapping the head pipes on my 2018 Roadster that is mostly black.
We do not use or carry the black, because, with time it will fade. It will function just as well...but we don't like the fading and don't want to have Customers that are disappointed when it fades.
As you can see in the video, the tan looks the same after almost 10 years as it did when it was new.
I know that does not help you, with your black-out theme, but we have never seen any black wrap that does not end up fading.
Dude i wrapped mine 15 months ago w black. It will fade and whiten up over time but high temp black spray paint works great.i paint about 1x a month. Looks brand new. Always let it run after washing to evap thr water.
And all wrap will fade. I bet a million bucks hes painted that wrap
@@miketrevino8761 If you're referring to the almost 10 year old wrap on the Sporty in the video...I could REALLY use the million bucks!
Let me know how to collect!
Good job man!
Thanks, glad you liked.
Good info, thanks!
Glad you enjoyed! 👍
Like it. Well said people who are thinking about doing it..
It is very helpful to folks that are feeling too much heat radiating off the pipes! 👍
More layers, the better ?
Not really. See all details here- www.dkcustomproducts.com/titanium-exhaust-wrap-dei-reduced-heat-improved-performance-dk-dei-t35.htm
But this is a cut and paste of part of the description/instructions-
"The wrap is 2 inches wide and 35 feet long. For maximum thermal performance it should have an overlap of 1/4". This will cover 11 feet of 1.75" diameter exhaust."
Is that 1" or 2" wide wrap ? Thx
2" wide by 35 feet Long (enough for 11' of pipe)
All the details are at this link- www.dkcustomproducts.com/titanium-exhaust-wrap-dei-reduced-heat-improved-performance-dk-dei-t35.htm
Thanks !!!
You're welcome! 👍
And now it’s “recommended “ to use silicone spray over the wrap
On this Titanium wrap it is NOT recommended to use any spray or treatment.
Dude, forget the wrap. I love your beard.
Thanks! 👍
Love all the info
Thank you, glad you're finding the videos useful. Appreciate the comment. 👍
What about having the exhaust pipes ceramic coated?
We have not done any tests, but can say that while expensive, ceramic coating does reduce the felt heat enough to tell the difference. Not sure if it is as effective as the wrap.
Sir, is it required to paint the exhaust first before wrapping?
Reference- www.dkcustomproducts.com/titanium-exhaust-wrap-dei-reduced-heat-improved-performance-dk-dei-t35.htm
It is not required to paint the exhaust first, howver, if the exhaust is already chromed, no paint recommended. If it is not, then a couple of coats of high heat paint is a good idea.
The chrome or paint will give the metal some protection against rust for when your wrap does get wet and not dried out right away.
thanks for the tip,im wraping a 96 jeep xj. this jeep has real issues of heat and this is going to help thanks
Cool. Glad you found the video useful!👍
Thanks for the video. I’m about to do the same thing to my pipes. After using the paint, did you heat them first to cure it and then wrap them? I have the pipes off the bike right now getting them ready for paint. Thanks!
I think so...we followed the directions on the can of paint, and I do believe it involved some heat cycles. It was BBQ rattle can paint, probably Rustoleum.
@@DKCustomProducts ok, it doesn’t take much to put the pipes on so maybe I’ll paint, then put them on for some heat then back off for the wrap. I could wrap them on the bike but it just looks like a pain. Thanks!
@@markferioli208 Happy to help, thanks for watching!
I've always herd it helps with hp.
Yes, the wrap will increase exhaust gas velocity which will increase cold air intake, which will result in more power. On a typical Harley, with a typical rider, they may or may not feel the difference. I think most folks do it to reduce felt heat radiating from the exhaust, which most everyone will feel.
Thanks for the comment. 👍
@@DKCustomProducts what about putting it on i4 sportbike header?
Excellent! I just watched your vid on lowering heat while riding. Add Ti heat wrap... ☑
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed the video and are enjoying the wrap!