How To Get them TIGHTER & Prevent Exhaust Wrap from Unravelling! Stainless Steel Zip Tie Tech Tip 32
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- Опубликовано: 18 фев 2022
- So you spent ages neatly wrapping your exhaust manifold and got to the final step - securing it to the pipe with some stainless steel zip ties. This is the easiest part of the install right?? Think again! As it turns out a lot of these stainless steel zip ties do not grip the pipe tight enough to hold the wrap permanently in place, allowing it to unravel further down the line. Thankfully there is a solution the this phenomenon which I'm going to go through in this video. Use this tactic to get them gripped up tight, ensuring your exhaust wrap will not move.
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Been wrenching on cars and what not for 10 years plus. Never thought of this. Great idea. I always put tension on the zip tie, then, pinged the open end of the ball bearing housing so that is forces the ball bearing deeper and wedges a dent into the zip tie under north it. It’s been quite effective. But there’s a thousand ways to skin a cat and this is a great video.
Here’s a Tech tip for you boys and girls when dealing with fiberglass wrap wear gloves or you’ll be itchy the whole day
Wish I knew the extent of this itchiness/soreness yesterday! 😂 It's so annoying...
Not with the newer titanium wrap. Did my bike a few times. Never itches. Once the wrap breaks down and falls apart after a year or so, thats when it may start to bother you. Not new tho. Never does. Unless you got cheap knockoff titanium wrap. 🤗
Track then if you have to lift weights makes it a interesting lift 😂😂😂
But if you forgot, talcum powder does wonders.
Oh yeah. Surprised this bloke didn't oblige
Another tip wet exhaust wrap beforehand then wrap exhaust as tight as possible and use said s/s ties then when exhaust gets hot moisture evaporates from wrap and pulls itself tighter to the exhaust system and makes it look even more neater
Yes, 100% always dip in a bucket of water first;') Good tip..
@@MM4F nooooo. Not when its titanium/lava heat wrap like this is. You dont wet it, it does nothing for it.
@@jordanwasley5388 it’s not for shaping the tape, the wet helps with adding friction to the wrap.
@@MM4F fibreglass wrap you do but the titanium wrap doesn't need water at all
@@jordanwasley5388don't know if you noticed but the wrap is outside and will get wet
heck of a deal bud, ive wasted many ties not knowing this, thanks
Excellent tip. Every day is a school day.
Great tip, many thanks. I'll try to tighten all the ties I fitted yesterday!
I have Black DEI Heat Wrap with black stainless steel worm hose clamps... Looks better, more coverage, easier to fully tighten, easier to remove. 👍
Thank you! I'm installing this titanium wrap right now with some metal black zip ties I got from amazon and this method worked perfectly.
Thanks for the help. I will be redoing the ties on my wrap real soon.
I wish I could give this video 2 thumbs up
Like a man that knows what he is doing!
Fantastic video thank you for the knowledge grenade.
Never would have thought this,thank you!
I have another tip. They make perforated stainless cable ties. They are more expensive than the other ones, but you dont have to worry about the loosening of the clamp like regular SS cable ties.
Liked and subbed. This is a great tip. I ended up just using mechanics wire to tighten my wrap. Thanks for sharing!
Great tip 👍all i do is bend the retaining lug that stops the ball bearing falling out forward so there's almost no movement left for it to roll back! Does the same job but no need for the small screwdriver 😉
That is very sensible! Will try that next time, thanks for the tip 👍🏻
I have the small screwdriver and hardly ever find anything to use it on .... I think I'll try it. But, I think I will roll the needle nose pliers down while against the catch to really get a bite on the strap.
@@stephboeker7835 Yes. Much more pulling force by rolling the needle nose pliers.
I would also first fasten the zip tie around the pipe loosely so that I don't have to hold the item to be wrapped in place while trying to thread the tie into the lug.
Thanks. A quick and simple explanation and solution.
Great tip, doing this tomorrow so thank you!
Thanks for the demo video and passing that knowledge on to me.
Probably helps if you have the end you pull facing straight up, that way the bb is always at the bottom instead of rolling to one end. They really need to design better ones
was stuck on this for quite a while, tip worked great! thank you!!
Nice one Mitch!
THANK YOU!!! Worked perfectly!!!
Awesome.thanks for this old chap!!
Thank you! Very valuable tip. Appreciated.
There's a handheld tool designed exactly for these type of locking ties, pretty cheap too. That's always going to be the better option.
Exactly!!! Was Looking To See If Anyone Else Was Hip To The Correct Way!!!
Thank you. Didn't even know this.
Thanks for the tip, I would also think a 90 degree pick would help when you are trying to seat the bearing in tight places.
many thanks...many beers my friend
Great video. Awesome tip, thanks mate!
No worries man. Thankyou!
Great tip 👍
Good tip
There is a tool i have where the tie fits into, you twist the tie under amd it gets super tight, then move the ball over and then i even bend the tiny snipped end backwards also. 🤗
Cracking tip and video pal! 👍
Thankyou!
Good tip dude
Nice work brother
nicely done!!!
Thank you for that 🙂
Perfect!
You can also do the job using ClampTite with S/S wire. It's lock under tension. I would recommend the bronze T-bar version the wing-nut version is a pain to use.
I just used hose clamps on mine. More expensive but they get so much tighter.
great video
That’s perfect! I’m trying to get my ZX2 headers to stop vibrating, I also have a small leak, want to wrap and use these zip ties.
Nice one Chris. Good luck with it.
When doing my turbo manifold I used the method of pulling tight cut off the end to leave about 6-8mm then pull and fold with a pair of pliers twice, gets rid of the sharp edge and leaves it nice and tight
I tried this method first and it still wouldn't work for me. Who knows. I dont think all these zip ties are made equal, & I did buy a pretty cheap set to be fair.
Your a star buddy. Thanks very much. Dei do sell a tool but this saves that money grand job
Cheers mate! Put the cash towards go faster mods
Actually, I have the tool they are selling and I'm NOT impressed. I bought a special tool that is meant to pull them tight and it does a great job but knowing about that small ball bearing makes things far more secure.
Good to know before wrapping the Harley pipes, thanks.
I just did my exhaust and I've found the easiest way to get it really tight you wrap over the tag end a little bit almost tying a knot then using the tool for the steel zipties I tighten as much as I can cut the end leaving an inch then fold it back over
Wow, thank you.
Great tip, now let´s try it with the exhaust between my legs.
Mfn right this is a really good video bro thank you
Cheers bro thankyou 👍🏻
THANK YOU!!!
NO PROBLEM!!
thank you !
Brilliant
I'm just doing a section of pipe if it's that much a pain in the ass some exhaust clamps should tighten her on down pretty good for my application
Tanks for help
SWEET !!
I would wet the wrap whenever working with them or in an area where there is a risk you could touch them otherwise there is a risk of tiny needles thrown into the air. if they are wet the dust is less likely to get airborne.
Thanks !!!
Just use proper SS pliers ... mine excerpt 300 pounds of force .. I tested the force. I tie wrapped a 2 inch square roller tape measure with a metal case. I squeezed the handles, only to find I had crushed the tape measure. The outer case collapsed. Stainless steel zip ties are not meant to be fitted by hand .. they need the proper pliers. They are brilliant if done right
Great tip. I installed mine, and was wondering how these type of ties worked worked. I should be able to still push the bb in and lock a little tighter. Thanks. I used some good quality hobby grade superglue on a few of the small frayed spots. A few drops and smear it down in one action, rolling away with your finger to avoid getting stuck to the header wrap, It sticks fast and neatens the job up even more.
Nice one Andy. A good, neat wrap job always looks well. Sadly the supercharger is now sat on top of the manifold so my hand work goes unseen 😪
Bless you
Thanks
I wrap really tight and use normal Ties as I go
Then after change for stainless ones I also give the ball a wack with a small punch whilst pulling the tab
use needle nose to twist the end to pull it tight. so you have a little roll of tie on the end. if you would have rolled the end up you would have had that tie super tight.
That was a great tip thanks. Question, did you wet your wrap before applying it, and if so why, dust, does it pull tighter as it dries?
What about gloves withglass fibre?
Gloves would be a good idea. As for wetting this type of wrap (titanium) no, not essential. Fibreglass wrap yes you do need to wet that stuff.
I was taught to soak the heat wrap in warm water first then after it drys, it also tightens the wrap.
not when its the titanium/lava wrap - research it
Is there a way to permanently lock these so if you use them for rings that need to slip off and on a tube they will not accidentally tighten more?
i'm wondering if heat cycling would loosen it again.
Happy days,, just been pulling my fecking Hair out with this problem!,🙏
I wonder if it would work to tie rebar
Another tip is to cut a channel in an old socket or extension so you can crank them down extra tight.
Cool
Needle 🪡 Nose Pliers on my side of the pond 😅 thx bud
These have been driving me crazy.
Can you use these steel zip ties on CV boots???
Use radiator hose clamps.
Worth knowinf, speciailly for a firt timer before he does the work
Big help thanks Sub’d&Bell’d
Don’t lie I know that beautiful dog in the background told you how to do this because humans are just too damn stupid thank you for your wonderful video and I appreciate it
Everyone knows the dog is the 🧠 of this operation
Just use Panduits manual tie gun GS4MT-E and you will easily tighten your stailess steel ties wirhout need of that effort
You don’t even need to stick something in there. The lock has a little play, sort of like the end of a tape measure, if you just push it back in the same direction you pushed the ball before you stop tightening, it’ll do the same thing. At least with the harbor freight ones. But I assume they all need to be like that or else the ball would get jammed up before you could even insert the tie.
can these be cut easily?
Wow 😳😲 30yrs as a mechanic and I've always just smacked em with a ball peen hammer..but this is way better
This video is about an hour too late! I’ve just heat wrapped my exhaust with metal cable ties that I couldn’t get right 😂
Damn, I meant to upload this morning but I forgot! Sorry 🙄
@@FastRust that’s ok. Quality content again 👍
I'm sitting here like 😮💨do I have to re wrap these headers.. 😂 lol..
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I’ve allways used stainless hose clamps
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dobre
I would like to add that this may not be a good idea for ALL projects as some circumstances require that there is a smidge of slack to ensure playability or to prevent snapping
There's still enough slack to allow for expansion, they won't snap.
I just use the $20 tool made for those bands 🤷♂️
Use a steel cable clamp tool. That's how.
your hand not itchy?
If only i know about this dam 😢
Pull up instead of a cross in the bearing falls down anyways
And what about lock wire?
My only concern with wire would be it could cut through the wrap over time.
I'd use hose clamps. You def would know it's not going anywhere
Yes
How old is the design of these metal zip ties...maybe the design also needs to change alittle too to make them easier to use
Don't know how old the design is but if you bought some off shelf today this is what you'd get
the st\st ties wer origanly for fire pannle instilations and tidying the cables up
Harbor freight: bundle of stainless wire, & the aviation wire twister (on same shelf)... you'll never use those ties again for a project of this nature...
You not find the wire cuts through the wrap over time? I've seen this issue especially with the titanium stuff.
Ok, lets go outside and try!
Or buy a cable tie gun... Panduit make good ones expensive. Cabec are similar a little cheaper.
The issue here is people don't want to buy a tool that they're only going to use once or twice. They may be cheap but why spend the money if you don't have to.
There is heat resistant plastic zip tight