I always fold the ends at start and finish. That fiber tends to tear easily. And don't be afraid to dunk it if you have no buddy to help, after the wrap I always leave the bike running to dry it up. Great work on the build!
Thanks for showing this off. I have started using the rubber gear ties in place of zip ties for holding things temporarily. Might save you a few bucks in the long term.
"...and you end up scratching smthg else and that's not fun" haha nice one 😅👌🏻 Great vid, love those how tos ! Helps a lot with my cx 500 restomod project !
Great demo on using exhaust wrap. My 2002 Connie runs it’s HOT exhaust headers so close to the inside of the fairings in places, I’ve considered doing this for years. I don’t want to pull the fairing pieces and then pull the exhaust to then wrap 4 pipes, but at least I’ve seen how its done! Excellent tutorial ! Thanks 👍
So I was thinking of wrapping the exhaust headers on my BMW R1200RT and do a search for how to and look what pops up! 😂 thanks so much for the video and the share. I’m gonna give silver a try. It’s totally an esthetic thing 😁
Really like the idea of using safety lock-wire instead of the usual metal cable ties. Incidentally using wrap on a air cooled bike is a really good idea because us air coolers need all the help we can get to keep our motors looking cool. See what I did there 😂
I have wrapped tons of headers on Midgets and Sprint Cars and other racecars for years. I always soak my wrap in water for about 20 min. Makes the wrap go on easier, and as the wrap dries it slightly shrinks and pulls even tighter. But that is just the way I have always done it.
I've heard so many more reasons to not saturate the wrap than saturating it. It is much easier to work with with a simply mist I just don't see the need to soak it.
@@BrickHouseBuilds I’m still trying to figure out how to get the charging system on my damn XS400 street tracker build. I just need to order your regulator and get rid of the Rick’s on I have now. Electrical has never been my strength.
Yep, that's the way I did mind too, cepting my bike wasn't operational so stuck most of it in the oven. Plus I had already derusted and rust primed and heat treated them with hi temp paint beforehand
I've done a few of these. I've used stainless steel straps that are available in the electrical departments of your big-box stores. They're around a 1/4" wide and cinch up like zip ties except they lie really flat.
Im spraying to get the material to become more flexible and once its on the pipe in position I do not need to spray it. You see me unroll and spray as I can only hold so much at once
Damn man, I saw your XS for sale a while back, and if I hadn't already built my own I would've been all over it. I also want a 650 silvering, and here you are again building all the shit I want 😩.
Not good to fully saturate it. No point in doing that when a mist does the trick. Folding the ends is fair but zipties work just fine. This is a proven method I've used for years
Enjoyed your video and channel. I would have painted over the top of the heat wrap with the heat paint. Makes the steel wire disappear, does look good though..GN
I’m wondering how it might work out having ceramic as well as titanium wrap? Some folks think it overheats/damages the engine because my Ducati scrambler pipes will melt my timing belt cover and my leg so I’m keen to double down on this, would love to know how it might or might now work out
Excellent video, thank you; Just a query if I may? I noticed you did not wrap or paint your muffler? Is this by choice or other reason? On my bike, I've been trying to decide to vhf coat the whole exhaust, including the muffler but still wondering if I should wrap the muffler? Your thoughts.
I've seen other recommendations about spraying thoroughly with high temp silicone after wrapping to prevent wrap from turning white. What are your thoughts on this?
Really Great Job 👍 Thank you so much for making this video to show us. Just one question so mine has a bunch of metal ties I see you just use a few are they not really needed?
Great work!!! I like your approach a lot! May I ask you a question? What kind of stand are you using? where to get it, and how expensive it might be? Thank you in advance, and sorry for asking too many questions , just hate to work on the floor . :)
Thank you! My lift is a black widdow brand and about 1800 with all the attachments. A simple solution is a wood table about 11 inches high that you roll the bike onto. I made my own and used them for years until I had to downsize my workspace and only have one station instead of 3. If you want hydraulic there are always a ton of used harbor freight lifts on marketplace for a few hundred dollars
Nice job on the video. Would this be nearly impossible to do with the pipes installed on the bike? Also, I heard mentioned that Titanium thermal wrap is better (no wetting, etc...). Any thoughts on that?
Trying this with the pipes on the bike is simply not worth the headache unless its a short section. I've never used the titanium stuff but Im sure its good
Well its higher quality wrap so much longer than Amazon stuff but with care and limited exposure to water and stored inside it should last quite a while
I had someone tell me that if I put exhaust wraps on my bike that the heat being trapped in the pipes will cause the motor to run hotter, and may even melt the factory wire harness, knock sensor wires/switches, and cause all kinds of problems with shorts, and alternator issues. I have a 2009 Honda ST1300 (Sport Touring). Is this accurate?
Well think about this. If your pipes are wrapped which helps decrease radiant heat you would see far less heat under your fairings. The person saying that is really reaching to make wrap sound bad. There are many great articles online about wrap though for you to do your own research so it doesn't seem biased
@BrickHouseBuilds copy that. The person who mentioned that is more like an "old school" type. I mean, he knows about that specific bike, but as anything, things get better as time progresses and more information and things come out to support what you're doing and proving.
I Have NEVER done this 1st hand only seen in video… MY Opinion: I think getting sopping wet then putting on & RUNNING would make for a tighter fit … I’ve never done this….
So having done this many times I can say that getting it soaking wet does not make it more flexible than just a mist to relax it. As Ive mentioned in other comments I dont want to hold moisture against metal longer than I have to in order to avoid potential corrosion. Also this bike won't be up and running for a while longer so that only increases the possibility of corrosion
I just don't feel the need to saturate it to that level when a little mist does the job. My thinking is to avoid putting excess moisture on the pipes when possible. In my case this bike won't be running for a while still so if it was saturated that is just more exposure time to possibly corrode.
@@BrickHouseBuilds thanks much. This makes quite a bit of sense. If you’re not gonna run it through a bunch of heat cycles to dry em out, probably shouldn’t leave em sopping wet on metal what could easily oxidize and rust.
After I soaked and wrapped mine, i shoved most of the piping into the oven and baked, heat treated them for a bit, otherwise ya could always use some other external heat. Soaking allows the material to stretch more and then dries to a tighter fit
as i'm researching doing this to my bike, this is the only one I've seen where the wrap is not fully submerged to wet, and the header end doesn't go completely to the exhaust flange... by no means am I saying you did anything wrong, just wondering why you didn't go all the way to the exhaust flange, leaving a noticeable gap between the wrap and the head.
You shouldn't submerge the wrap. I don't care what others say as this is what the manufacturers suggest. Those who dunk it are just being lazy in a way. As far as wrapping under the clamp I've never felt the need to do that. Often I'll end the wrap further down or even just do it where I need heat protection. No rules here.
Love the Aquafina bottle full of piss behind ya lol that's when u know ur at a quality shop, when the mechanic can't even peel himself away from the job long enough to piss ffs lol
@@BrickHouseBuilds Yes, but one last issue should be concerned is that it will create rust spot if the wrap is wet for certain amount of time. I have no idea how long would it take for a rust spot to penetrate the pipe tho.
@@duosable I sprayed mine down with some hi trmp engine paint to protect it so should stop water coming in, haven't got it on the bike yet, so don't ask if it works,, but I did prep the pipes and sprayed with anti rust primer and hi temp paint., so they're pretty well protected
@@OlderShadowRider cleaned off rust, neutralized it w Ospho, primers and painted the headers, wrapped them to the muffler, spray painted wrap, heated in oven.
Does anyone advise spraying the headers with a high temp silicon spray such as thermo tec (2k degree) then wrap, then spray thermo tec again on the wrap? Is there an advantage or benefit to that method or just wrap it then spray it? Thank you all for any help.
I always fold the ends at start and finish. That fiber tends to tear easily. And don't be afraid to dunk it if you have no buddy to help, after the wrap I always leave the bike running to dry it up. Great work on the build!
I sometimes fold at the end but good tip for sure
Actually probably one of the most thorough vids about exhaust wrap I’ve ever seen. Great video BJ 👍🏼
Thanks for showing this off. I have started using the rubber gear ties in place of zip ties for holding things temporarily. Might save you a few bucks in the long term.
I installed it recently on an XT250 and I can confirm that it DOES increase performance noticeably.
"...and you end up scratching smthg else and that's not fun" haha nice one 😅👌🏻
Great vid, love those how tos ! Helps a lot with my cx 500 restomod project !
hahaha I try to provide that real world experience ;)
Yeh, I cracked up on that 1 too, heheh.
Great demo on using exhaust wrap. My 2002 Connie runs it’s HOT exhaust headers so close to the inside of the fairings in places, I’ve considered doing this for years. I don’t want to pull the fairing pieces and then pull the exhaust to then wrap 4 pipes, but at least I’ve seen how its done! Excellent tutorial ! Thanks 👍
Thermal protection is definitely where this stuff shines. Thanks for checking the video out and I'm glad it was helpful!
So I was thinking of wrapping the exhaust headers on my BMW R1200RT and do a search for how to and look what pops up! 😂 thanks so much for the video and the share. I’m gonna give silver a try. It’s totally an esthetic thing 😁
Haha I'm everywhere! To me its just esthetic as well. Occasionally I like it for protecting stuff from heat as well.
Really like the idea of using safety lock-wire instead of the usual metal cable ties.
Incidentally using wrap on a air cooled bike is a really good idea because us air coolers need all the help we can get to keep our motors looking cool. See what I did there 😂
😉 i see what you did there
Just installed on an air cooled 250cc bike and it makes noticeably more power.
I have wrapped tons of headers on Midgets and Sprint Cars and other racecars for years. I always soak my wrap in water for about 20 min. Makes the wrap go on easier, and as the wrap dries it slightly shrinks and pulls even tighter. But that is just the way I have always done it.
I've heard so many more reasons to not saturate the wrap than saturating it. It is much easier to work with with a simply mist I just don't see the need to soak it.
@@BrickHouseBuilds I’m still trying to figure out how to get the charging system on my damn XS400 street tracker build. I just need to order your regulator and get rid of the Rick’s on I have now. Electrical has never been my strength.
Yep, that's the way I did mind too, cepting my bike wasn't operational so stuck most of it in the oven. Plus I had already derusted and rust primed and heat treated them with hi temp paint beforehand
@@backcountryme I think electrical is a bit of a ? for most guys, esp me.
I've done a few of these. I've used stainless steel straps that are available in the electrical departments of your big-box stores. They're around a 1/4" wide and cinch up like zip ties except they lie really flat.
I have seen and used those. I've simply been on a safety wire kick lately
Thank you. I will be doing my Triumph soon, got some good pointers.
Nice. I did my Vance and Hines 4cyl on my zrx1200r in white. It was a wrestling match. Just for looks. Pipe was ugly so...came out nice .Thanks.
4cyl pipes can definitely be a big pain in the butt!
Do you also keep spraying water as you go or only at the beginning stage of wrapping?
Im spraying to get the material to become more flexible and once its on the pipe in position I do not need to spray it. You see me unroll and spray as I can only hold so much at once
Damn man, I saw your XS for sale a while back, and if I hadn't already built my own I would've been all over it.
I also want a 650 silvering, and here you are again building all the shit I want 😩.
Haha I appreciate it! I just wish I could build all the things I want more quickly
Thanks for uploading. That CX is lookin' good !
Thanks Robert!
Lookin’ good, bud…. Giving me the motivation I need for my 3 bike projects….
Nicely done
🙏🙏
You make a great teacher. Thanks.
Thanks Rich! Just trying to share what I know and continue learning each day myself
Thanks I have never seen this done before
Glad it was helpful!
Nice work man
Many thanks!
Fold the ends and use a normal flex-tie at the start to keep it tight. Putting the roll in a coffee can full of water is best.
Not good to fully saturate it. No point in doing that when a mist does the trick. Folding the ends is fair but zipties work just fine. This is a proven method I've used for years
Enjoyed your video and channel. I would have painted over the top of the heat wrap with the heat paint. Makes the steel wire disappear, does look good though..GN
Thank you
I think it may help lower air temps near my radiator. GSXR 750. The header is right under my rad.
It can indeed. I'd say worth a try
I dislike wrap, but I love your work. So here's a like and a view.
Fair enough and thank you
Can I use wrap to cover rusty mufflers for aesthetics ? Or do I need to remediate rust before ?
Always try to stop rust when you can but sure, you could cover what you want.
Dude, that’s so good 😍 love this build
Thank you!
Nice job
Thank ya Mike!
I’m wondering how it might work out having ceramic as well as titanium wrap? Some folks think it overheats/damages the engine because my Ducati scrambler pipes will melt my timing belt cover and my leg so I’m keen to double down on this, would love to know how it might or might now work out
@doyoueatrocks Just one type of wrap is plenty. No need to overthink it as the heat will be drastically reduced
Good job and nice build. What was Honda thinking putting the battery there.....YIKES!
I put the battery there. Very common spot and totally fine
Great video. thank you
Glad you enjoyed!
Lengen......dary chock full of good stuff!
Thank ya Doc!
Grrat job.
looks awesome! What was the total time on the job??
Thank you. Id say an hour or less
Excellent video, thank you; Just a query if I may? I noticed you did not wrap or paint your muffler? Is this by choice or other reason? On my bike, I've been trying to decide to vhf coat the whole exhaust, including the muffler but still wondering if I should wrap the muffler? Your thoughts.
Well this muffler is fully stainless and part of the look of the bike. No need or desire to paint
I would not wrap a muffler
Im blind and gona be doing this to my kids dirt bikes and quads. I know i can do it, just not good at working with gloves at all.
Even the best gloves make things a bit more difficult but they are a must for this job!
Cool music!
Glad you enjoyed!
I've seen other recommendations about spraying thoroughly with high temp silicone after wrapping to prevent wrap from turning white. What are your thoughts on this?
I've never done that or had this turn white. I could see how that could be a good thing to do though
@Brick House Builds ok thanks
Really Great Job 👍 Thank you so much for making this video to show us. Just one question so mine has a bunch of metal ties I see you just use a few are they not really needed?
If you wrap it correctly you only need ties at each end. Careful placement is important as well
Thanks for the info good to know
Glad it was helpful Robert!
Great work!!! I like your approach a lot! May I ask you a question? What kind of stand are you using? where to get it, and how expensive it might be? Thank you in advance, and sorry for asking too many questions , just hate to work on the floor . :)
Thank you! My lift is a black widdow brand and about 1800 with all the attachments. A simple solution is a wood table about 11 inches high that you roll the bike onto. I made my own and used them for years until I had to downsize my workspace and only have one station instead of 3. If you want hydraulic there are always a ton of used harbor freight lifts on marketplace for a few hundred dollars
@@BrickHouseBuilds Thanks a lot ! Appreciate you help.
Super cool, nice job!,
Many thanks!
is the tank sanded ang sprayed with cllear coat?
Yes, I go over it in this one. ruclips.net/video/aEOBJcC-uLg/видео.html
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Nice job on the video. Would this be nearly impossible to do with the pipes installed on the bike? Also, I heard mentioned that Titanium thermal wrap is better (no wetting, etc...). Any thoughts on that?
Trying this with the pipes on the bike is simply not worth the headache unless its a short section. I've never used the titanium stuff but Im sure its good
you can also use zip ties to keep it steady without the braids coming loose, so theres that.
I did it once but my wrap started to turn color to white until finally turned into ashes and felt off the exhaust. Why ?
I've seen that a lot with less expensive wraps. Another potential could be a lean condition causing even more extreme temps in the exhaust
How long will that wrap stay black?
Well its higher quality wrap so much longer than Amazon stuff but with care and limited exposure to water and stored inside it should last quite a while
I had someone tell me that if I put exhaust wraps on my bike that the heat being trapped in the pipes will cause the motor to run hotter, and may even melt the factory wire harness, knock sensor wires/switches, and cause all kinds of problems with shorts, and alternator issues. I have a 2009 Honda ST1300 (Sport Touring).
Is this accurate?
Well think about this. If your pipes are wrapped which helps decrease radiant heat you would see far less heat under your fairings. The person saying that is really reaching to make wrap sound bad. There are many great articles online about wrap though for you to do your own research so it doesn't seem biased
@BrickHouseBuilds copy that. The person who mentioned that is more like an "old school" type. I mean, he knows about that specific bike, but as anything, things get better as time progresses and more information and things come out to support what you're doing and proving.
I Have NEVER done this 1st hand only seen in video… MY Opinion: I think getting sopping wet then putting on & RUNNING would make for a tighter fit … I’ve never done this….
So having done this many times I can say that getting it soaking wet does not make it more flexible than just a mist to relax it. As Ive mentioned in other comments I dont want to hold moisture against metal longer than I have to in order to avoid potential corrosion. Also this bike won't be up and running for a while longer so that only increases the possibility of corrosion
Can you explain the moisten vs submerging a bit more? Every other video I’ve seen says to submerge it in a bucket.
I just don't feel the need to saturate it to that level when a little mist does the job. My thinking is to avoid putting excess moisture on the pipes when possible. In my case this bike won't be running for a while still so if it was saturated that is just more exposure time to possibly corrode.
@@BrickHouseBuilds thanks much. This makes quite a bit of sense. If you’re not gonna run it through a bunch of heat cycles to dry em out, probably shouldn’t leave em sopping wet on metal what could easily oxidize and rust.
@@davehowie03 precisely
After I soaked and wrapped mine, i shoved most of the piping into the oven and baked, heat treated them for a bit, otherwise ya could always use some other external heat. Soaking allows the material to stretch more and then dries to a tighter fit
as i'm researching doing this to my bike, this is the only one I've seen where the wrap is not fully submerged to wet, and the header end doesn't go completely to the exhaust flange... by no means am I saying you did anything wrong, just wondering why you didn't go all the way to the exhaust flange, leaving a noticeable gap between the wrap and the head.
You shouldn't submerge the wrap. I don't care what others say as this is what the manufacturers suggest. Those who dunk it are just being lazy in a way. As far as wrapping under the clamp I've never felt the need to do that. Often I'll end the wrap further down or even just do it where I need heat protection. No rules here.
"I laughed, I cried, it was better than Cats"
I hate exhaust wrap! 😡This stuff sucks!😡 I'm just playing😁. I was thinking about doing this to my bike. Thanks for the tips
Glad you found it helpful
Front to back is for car headers that stay in the engine bay.
Love the Aquafina bottle full of piss behind ya lol that's when u know ur at a quality shop, when the mechanic can't even peel himself away from the job long enough to piss ffs lol
I don't know why people have focused on that extremely small detail of the video. Its water with orange flavoring in it.
A little simpler than taping a hockey stick 🤣
I have zero experience on that front but maybe lol
Biggest issue with wraps is moisture I don't believe spray is a good idea.
If you completely saturate it or ride in the rain it's not good. A gentle spray like shown is best. This bike wasn't going in the rain
the wrap is going to create ugly burnt marks on stainless steel downpipe. needed to sand and polish to remove them.
Correct but if you have them wrapped thats not a concern
@@BrickHouseBuilds Yes, but one last issue should be concerned is that it will create rust spot if the wrap is wet for certain amount of time. I have no idea how long would it take for a rust spot to penetrate the pipe tho.
@@duosable I sprayed mine down with some hi trmp engine paint to protect it so should stop water coming in, haven't got it on the bike yet, so don't ask if it works,, but I did prep the pipes and sprayed with anti rust primer and hi temp paint., so they're pretty well protected
@@edwardmulder3777 Did you heat the pipe after coating it to seal it? just wondering also if you wrapped your muffler too?
@@OlderShadowRider cleaned off rust, neutralized it w Ospho, primers and painted the headers, wrapped them to the muffler, spray painted wrap, heated in oven.
POV me: distracted by the Aquafina bottle filled halfway with yellow fluid on the back counter 👀
Orange vanilla mio
This whole process becomes 10 x harder when u have OCD.
As does life!
Salt from your sweat turns it white.
Hopefully only a few drops
I dislike that stuff!
Ok
Does anyone advise spraying the headers with a high temp silicon spray such as thermo tec (2k degree) then wrap, then spray thermo tec again on the wrap? Is there an advantage or benefit to that method or just wrap it then spray it? Thank you all for any help.