Odin Review - Is the Odin Base the GOAT Emulation Handheld?
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- Опубликовано: 2 авг 2024
- Does the Odin Handheld live up to the hype? I put the Odin Base to the test to see if its everything it promised to be. Enjoy the review!
Chapters
0:00 Intro
0:12 Unboxing
0:41 Specs
2:10 Models and Pricing
2:45 Lite vs Base vs Pro
3:30 System RAM usage - is 4GB enough?
4:28 Odin Benchmarks vs other devices
5:12 Build Quality and Controls
6:12 L1/R1 Issue
8:16 Size and Weight Comparison
8:30 Ergonomics
8:51 Screen Quality
9:07 Battery Life
9:32 Overclocking and Fan modes
10:30 Android OS
10:44 PC Game Streaming - Elden Ring, CP2077
11:29 Emulation Performance - 8/16 bit systems
12:20 PSP
13:26 Dreamcast
14:11 Gamecube
14:53 PS2
15:41 Conclusion
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Links
JimRPG PS2 Testing - Handheld and Mobile Game Testing Spreadsheet
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Odin Handheld Indiegogo Page and Updates
www.indiegogo.com/projects/od...
JimRPG Discord Channel
/ discord
JimRPG Twitter
@jimrpg1
JimRPG2 RUclips Channel
/ @ohmygames128
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![The new KING of Emulation [AYN Odin]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/qOE76NBOTCw/mqdefault.jpg)
Great review Jim! I was looking forward to this and can't wait to see your other Odin content!
Thanks chocho!
Great review, I was looking for more information about the fan, thank you 👏
Thanks! Glad it helped!
Cheers Jim, quality review. I see what you mean about the select/start buttons, not optimal placement. While nothing is perfect, it's still impressive how much AYN nailed for a first device. I debated which model to get. Went Pro hoping the chipset, extra RAM and storage give the most options and longevity. The Lite could well be the sweet spot on price/performance though.
Look forward to see how the Lite performs. Will be interesting.
Nice video 👍
I love it! Just got my purple base, it feels sooo good! My only big gripe is not realizing it doesn't come with lights, there was no documentation aside of photos to show it has no lights. I have the options to turn it on in the menu's but I have no lights lol, wish they'd push an update for transparent Odin's to remove it, it's annoying to see an option I cannot use. Also I believe I got the updated switch, I'm order 833 so well before the 1200 mark for the new switch, but I got the purple and that was being assembled as they announced the new switch.
I believe we all have a 6600mah battery now, we got a boost from the 6000mah battery.
I installed Nova launcher and button remapper to remap the home button to a .5sec hold to bring down the quick panel and a quick tap to open the apps tab and if I double click it, it goes to the previous app. I wish we could use the M buttons on the back for macro's outside of their key mapper app and in retroarch. I also increased the dpi in dev options to make everything a bit smaller. I also wish we could have different cpu profiles based on which app is being run.
I really REALLY want to root this thing, enable live wallpapers.
Completely agree on the start/select buttons location, wish they'd push both the dpad and right analog stick a bit upwards as well, small gripe. I have the RG351V and this, and with game streaming, this is all I need! ^_^ Steam Deck, I can't imagine taking that on the bus with me, too darn big.
Great review! May I ask, what is the cpu stats app you're using?
Wow, I didn’t know there were no lights on the purple, it was more expensive at the time as well! Yeah I think this is one console I’ll do some customisation, I’ll be using the Odin the most. The app for CPU speeds is called CPU Float.
@@JimRPG Yeah man! I was like.. WTF!? No lights!? I mean it IS more expensive, I bought the purple cuz I think it would last longer than a solid color, smooth shiny parts start to show in black after a while for example, and I also got it cuz of the colored buttons. If I knew it didn't come without any lights I may have got something else.
I just think of it as an Android phone, everything I used to do to mine from way back in the day, I can do with this one! Which is why I desperately want root on this thing lol.
Thanks! Cpu float, on it. :)
Excellent video Jim.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Agree with the start / select buttons being too low, other than that and the L1/R1 issue it's a solid device. Perfect PSP replacement.
I was surprised, I thought it wouldn’t bother me, but it’s really low. Yeah but other than that it’s amazing. L1/R1 will only bother me after I’ve broken it. 😄
Great video just sold my OG base unit to get a onexplayer.....definitely gonna miss it!
You know I kind of want that onexplayer if it comes out for $840. I hope you enjoy the onexplayer!
@@JimRPG I wanted a steam deck and I have a reservation but I feel as those the wait will be longer than it took odin was thinking about the gpd win 3 also but screen is a deal breaker for computer games...here's hoping u enjoy the odin I had a 1 tb sd if it wasn't for talk of switch ps3 or og Xbox Odin would still be in my hands!
great review
Thanks!
I have had an issue with my Odin L/R button. My R1 button came broken out of the factory. Most games you can remap which I did to the m2 back button which isn’t inconvenient at all. I did receive my upgrade kit which I put on with the new upgraded l2 r2 pieces. I have no gripes about the new parts they work well and AYN does great customer service I emailed them and they sent me the parts just that simple they remember your email source your invoice and deliver your parts no hassle no worries. I see great things coming from them in the future they are clearly trying to invest in the gaming/emulation space.
Hey - sorry to hear the R1 button came broken. When did you get your Odin? AYN said that most of the L1/R1 issues were in the initial batch of consoles. Also I didn't actually have that much luck with some of the emulators mapping the buttons behind the console, I think MMJR doesn't recognise them. I need to try other emulators. I'm glad you got it sorted.
If I knew for certain that I'd be getting the 6000mA battery with the Base version then I'd probably order one today.
Another professional review...owner of poco f3 and gamesir bluetooth
Roland
Thanks! Yeah f3 and gamesir is a great combo!
Hoping to order one of these next week to replace my GPD XD Plus
Thats a great upgrade!
Looking forward to getting my Ayn Odin Pro Handheld with 256 GB + super pack
Wow - that's actually a really good idea, now that there's Windows.
@@JimRPG not using it for windows though. I'll get a steam deck afterwards 🤠
@@MrMartellSincere awesome that was my plan too! 😄
@@JimRPG awesome sauce. I have my PC games on steam deck and my android games on my Ayn Odin Pro Handheld Super Pack (Cold Grey) as my graduation gift for myself 🎓🤠
@@MartellThaCool congrats on getting the steam deck already!
Thanks for the initial review as tossing up whether to order a Poco F3 or Odin Pro but neither come cheap when converted to AUD? Looking forward to future videos to assist with my decision.👍
I'd say it depends if you're getting a steam deck or not or whether that's not in consideration because its too far out for Aussies. I'd say Steam Deck first, then Odin Pro for the dedicated handheld form factor, and then Poco F3. Poco F3 is way more powerful but you'd be missing the upper tier of PS2 games like God of War 1 and 2. I need to do more testing on PS2 to see how it holds up first.
If you are going to use the Poco F3 as a phone - then I'd get that over the Odin.
Just out of interest why would it be more expensive when converted to AUD?
Sorry but i am just asking this just to understand if there is more to making things expensive in Australia other than conversion rates?
@@casteli1 I think he just means the AUD is worth a lot less these days vs the USD. I know during the golden age of the AUD when it was 1:1 with USD I enjoyed importing a lot of stuff!
@@JimRPG Yeah the conversion rate and when you factor shipping it gets pricey, not to mention us being a smaller market and not catered for such as Steam Deck availability well into 2023. Of the choices the Odin Base/Pro seems the best option despite delays getting 2nd batch out
@@JimRPG I can get a Poco F3 around the price of an Odin Pro but add the controller and it gets considerably more expensive so Odin looks the better deal for now. Appreciate the feedback ;)
Hey! Just a lil tip regarding audio: In most editing software there's usually an audio effect called "Deesser". This is gonna get rid of the sharp "S" sounds from the audio, allowing it to be better listened to at higher volumes. Keep up the great work!
I've tried to get rid of it. but i dont know why sometimes it ends up making the rest of the audio sound not as good. But I'll keep working on it.
@@JimRPG gotcha, sometimes it has to do with the microphone. As stupid as it sounds, putting a sock around my mic helped a lot lol. I really like your content man!
Deesser is made to decrease the sharpness of s-sounds. To compensate you probably want to increase the spectrum where the s resides. A common mixing tip is to use a few EQ's and brighten the sound a few dB at a time and then add deesser to tame the sibilance.
@@SimonStegerlind 😄Not easy to make videos...
If you max out the emulated overclock on mmjr2 to 300% f zero and other GameCube games play great
I'll try that cheers.
@@JimRPG also the average temperature of the room increases by a factor of 10%.
Can you please tell me if the built in controller is recognized as a usb device on the android system? If so I could use virtual here to remotely connect controller to pc. I know moonlight and steam link can wrap controller as xinput but I prefer using superdisplay for game streaming.
I haven't had any issues with the L1/R1 with my first batch Oden Pro. I will have to ask for the repair kit just in case.
Yeah it should be pretty obvious if you have an issue, it just won't work! Good idea to ask for the repair kit.
Although I'm excited about the emulation, I'm just as keen to pkay xcloud games along with native android games that were initially touch screen only.
You make a lot of good points.
I own no pc or sd card, can I still add emulation games from within the device? Do I really need to file transfer? Sorry I’m still a newbie
yeah you can just use the internal storage of the Odin. Use a USB-C to USB-A cable and connect it to your PC or Mac, on the Odin you have to give the PC permission so just select File Transfer on the pop up screen. Then go back to your PC and find the Odin - and you can create new folders, copy and paste your game files. Go back to your emulator app on the Odin and just browse for the directory. It's very easy. ask more questions if you need more help.
What's the wait time to get one of these? I live in the US. Great review BTW.
They said the second batch (if you buy one now) starts shipping 3/25, and finish shipping in a month, so you’re probably looking at the back of the queue there.
So just to clarify, the extra ram on the pro model actually doesn't improve performance for gamecube, Wii, or PS2 games over the base model?
No, 8gb doesn't improve performance for emulation. You only need 8gb maybe for windows apps, but you probably run out of processing power first anyways.
Hello,
How long does it take for your odin to arrived? I heard months but not sure..im moving this july I wanna order it this month. Not sure if company can send it soon.
3:00 T618 is not MediaTek but Unisoc
Were the RAM usage figures for DC/GC/PS2 all at native resolution? I'm wondering if some of them might use more than the Base's 4GB RAM when setting the emulators to display at higher internal resolution, e.g. running DC games at 1440p.
DC games run at 1440p even at 3gb however if you want to emulate the Nintendo swich you will need 4 gb ram.
@@shlokshah5379 Thank you.
I just ordered a purple transparent pro today! Does anybody know when I should expect it?
Congrats, im not too sure, but i believe they should be shipping them pretty quickly now. You can write them a msg and ask.
Could not map stick to move left or right while facing...would only move character side ways on gamesir controller, re. Syphon Filter, "Dark Mirror"...any help would be great!
Best,
Roland
Nevermind, I figured it out!
I was going to say - use the older firmware on the gamesir controller. I had problems with the gamesir and then i downgraded the firmware through the app.
@@JimRPG
Very good. Anxious to see review of Odin 900 Dimensity...nearly 55% difference between sd845 in Antutu testing and smaller transistors
Does it come pre-installed with games or do you have to install them? Also does it have internet, and can you download roms into it?
No you have to add your own roms to it. Yes it has wifi for internet. I added my roms through a PC to the Odin using a USB C cable.
@@JimRPG Do you need a PC/Laptop to add games and roms? You can't just use the Udins internet to get them?
Hello Jim, do you think that odin lite can run gamecube and ps2 games as well as odin base ? Thank you ❤️
Don’t know yet, I don’t have a dimesity 900, so I can’t test it. But there might be some videos on this online. GameCube should be alright, PS2 is meant to work a little better with Adreno chips but should be ok with Mali gpus.
@@JimRPG Thank you Jim ❤️👍🏻
does the right stick get in the way of the buttons because that pisses me off so much like no tmr lol
You should try shadow pc see if the studders are the same.
Hello I had a question can you play LEFT 4 Dead online with this console or no and does it work good on it??
Hi there....would you be able to explain crowdfunding to me? I want to order one but hesitant due to the possibility of not ever receiving one. I'm interested in the 256gb and according to the website it should ship faster than the 128gb.
Any clarity would be appreciated
It is in the in demand phase now. You order one and they'll ship it when the next batch is available - they should have started shipping the next batch now, so if you order now, maybe you'll be at the end of the queue and it'll ship in a couple of weeks.
I don't know whether the 256gb or 128gb is faster. If that's what it says on the website - no reason not to believe it. Everyone has got their units from AYN.
If you like more questions answered join the retro handheld discord. discord.gg/retrohandhelds
@@JimRPG Thank you so much. I really do appreciate it.
@@garypryor9930 You're welcome Gary.
hi, do you think i need the pro version to play until ps2? or the base is good enought? thank you
Base is fine, 8gb ram only if u want to do dual boot windows/android. For PS2 emulation u only need 4gb ram.
@@JimRPG thank you so much
May I ask if you have tried the Super Smash Bros. Brawl on the Odin? If yes, how the performance? Thanks.
Only tried Melee (it works), haven't tried Brawl yet.
@@JimRPG Thanks. Melee work on my Redmi Note 10 Pro (Snapdragon 732G) but it keep hanging when I tried to run Brawl. If you ever tried Brawl on the Odin, do let us know . Thanks.
@@ansonchew_sg will do. ill post back here.
@@JimRPG Thank you.. looking fwd
what is the difference between the base, the pro, and the lite?
Lite - Dimensity 900, 4gb ram, 64gb storage $200
Base - Snapdragon 845, 4gb ram, 64gb storage $240
Pro - Snapdragon 845, 8gb ram, 128gb storage, $290
Hello
Do you think Saturn emulation could run smoothly?
Yeah Saturn should be no issue already runs on a lower chipset
hmm wonder the pro model can run steam OS...
hi I'm new to emulators haven't got a clue to be honest but how would I go about downloading die hard is it pspp or something then what do you do to get the actual game to the odin thank you for anybodys time who can help me like I said haven't got a clue
Hey there, die hard I think PS1 has Die Hard Trilogy. You would need to download retroarch and then use the PCSXrearmed core. You can get retroarch off the Google play store. For the game you need the original PS1 game and rip the files from that. You might get lucky and there might be a website where you can download that already done for you.
You should check out this guide here - retrogamecorps.com/tag/android/
Thank you
Thank you
Looks like ram and storage on the box was mixed up.
I really need that but it's not available in her in Philippines 😭
It’s available to order on the indiegogo page - see the description of this video for link
Where can I buy this?! Can't find it online
www.indiegogo.com/projects/odin-the-ultimate-gaming-handheld/x/17995798#/
Link to their Indiegogo page. Selling by demand - should be starting shipping soon.
@@JimRPG great review and thank you
13:07 why only 2x my phone with sd660 can do 4x with minor drops
Depends on your definition of frame rate drops. You get smaller drops on faster processors. On my sd870, the drops last like one or two seconds. But on my mediatek t618, drops are longer maybe 3-4 seconds. Also you can play 3x or 4x if u want to, it depends what’s bottlenecking the cpu or gpu.
Eldin Ring has a known stutter on PC that's probably being exacerbated with streaming.
Yeah I know about that, I played that section on PC before and hadn’t got too many stutters. But yeah it could be the game because cp2077 worked well.
Yes I'm fairly sure the problem are software conflicts
Lol Jim flexing his Rtx3070 hah
Good point! Gotta stream more!
Does it play 3ds games?
The Lite still isn't out yet. This is ridiculous.
Was meant to be a few months after...
thanks man you kick ass... love the odin but setting up every game sucks... i know nothing about computers... setting up the buttons is so fustrating... still cant get it right.... i have wanted to throw this thing through the window THOUSANDS OF TIMES.... is there any where i can go to learn about how to get my buttons to work right? i m old school and want to use the Dpad on every game but i cant... i dont know what to do.. some games it does not work ... few it does... some only left and right work but not up and down... there is no rhyme or reason to any of it... HOW ABOUT SO HELP ANYBODY... I PAID SO MUCH MONEY FOR THIS!...
Have you had any luck?
I can understand your frustration, but it is quite simple
Hoping it can be a cheaper way out to the steam deck
At $200 yeah it’s a good alternative, not the $290 pro, nice device but I’d save up another $100 to get the deck.
@@JimRPG I just wanna play cod zombies ps3, Xbox 360,or Wii era on a handheld device
@@yoghetty5636 Aya Neo bro
@@KAIZENURAMESHI lol neo is 1000. if you bear with linux, you get great performance at a much lower price. and besides the community for the deck will be huge, meaning user experience will improve even more as more people develop for the deck
Wait Base over Pro?
I was only going to use Android so I got base, but now seems like Windows works ok, so I wish I got Pro.
Belinya dimana ?
You can buy it at the official indiegogo page.
www.indiegogo.com/projects/odin-the-ultimate-gaming-handheld#/
has anyone tried 3ds emulation? thanks
Prob still not enough processing power, but I may try it at a later stage.
@@JimRPG brilliant thanks 😄 mainly looking to run a couple of ps2 games which it seems like will run ok
@@Benpm2212 just ask around and see if the PS2 titles that you want to run do work. A lot of games do, but emulator is still in alpha so lots of games don’t. Big library too.
@@JimRPG will do thanks Jim
you could fit "the Greatest Of All Time" instead of the GOAT ...
Yes the pro is getting too close to steam deck price
Yeah that’s why the lite at $200 might be the better deal but we’ll have to see what it can and can’t do
@@JimRPG lite is out now, do you think its worth it ? i have my doubts about the screen eating the battery. and 4gb was ok for playing streaming games for you ?
If it could handle PS3 emulation I would call it goat
Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 3, Flip 3, and Microsoft Surface Duo 2 are the GOATs for emulation. Just get a Bluetooth controller and all the emulators for them. Those phones are always with you. And Snap888 destroys 845.
what about input lag ?
i see there is android input lag - ruclips.net/video/eiAJKMkXYC0/видео.html.
what do you think ?
To anyone thinking about getting an odin or loki...dont!!! Ayn just screwed me over bad.. customer service is horrible and rude. Can't keep shipping dates because there only putting out 50 to zero a day. Take my advice and stay away from AYN!!!!
Saving money...to me it's losing money . Your only talking $47 more. For 8g of ram and twice the storage.. you can't even go out to dinner for $47..lol
Steam deck