The MH3 Leaks Were Real - Power Creep Inbound

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  • Опубликовано: 19 май 2024
  • Lets look at the first batch of Modern Horizons 2 Previews, as Wizards of the Coast catch up with the leaks and show us high res images.
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  • @markoramius4689
    @markoramius4689 18 дней назад +264

    Have to acknowledge growth when it happens. Wizards responded with high-res images of leaks instead of the literal Pinkertons this time.

    • @kerolokerokerolo
      @kerolokerokerolo 18 дней назад +12

      Idk, they are to consistent with their decisions... I'm expecting for the Pinkertons two appear next leaks lol

    • @Shinius
      @Shinius 18 дней назад +9

      Clearly Aftermath was so important they had to go the Pinkerton route.

    • @phangplaystcg
      @phangplaystcg 18 дней назад +4

      ​@@kerolokerokerolo I was expecting for the Pinkertons one appear next leaks lol

    • @anthonydelfino6171
      @anthonydelfino6171 17 дней назад +1

      "leaks"
      I'm with Vince here that the "leaks" were from Wizards themselves. Images look like they were shot using a shaky potato. No one takes pics that bad unless they're trying to make them look terrible, maybe ran them through a filter (like we're seeing on the rumors subreddit with someone trying to pass off proxies with a deep fried filter over them as "leaks")

    • @jenniferwilliams9612
      @jenniferwilliams9612 17 дней назад

      For these leaks, the released photos, instead of hired goons…. Baby steps!…. Baby steps!…

  • @benghis_kaan
    @benghis_kaan 17 дней назад +10

    I agree, annoying that they keep printing free spells despite lots of evidence that this design approach is problematic. For Final Act, the thing that jumps out to me is that it will remove opponents energy counters

  • @colinfowler3021
    @colinfowler3021 18 дней назад +30

    A point not addressed about Cthonian Nightmare is that it is now interactable. Recurring Nightmare resolves and can be activated without passing priority (returning it to the caster's hand therefore never presenting a window for on board interaction). The new card has an ETB trigger that must resolve before the activated ability can be used (because it is sorcery speed and the stack won't be clear if the ETB is still on the stack). The ETB to add 3 energy forces the card to pass priority around and gives players the opportunity to interact with the onboard enchantment.

    • @satansamael666
      @satansamael666 18 дней назад

      The reduction in mana cost makes it kinda dumb. Makes it Lurrus legal and also more synergistic and smoother to do dumb things like loops.

    • @Mentifiar
      @Mentifiar 17 дней назад +3

      @@satansamael666Lurrus is banned in every format, I don’t see how that is in any way relevant…

    • @satansamael666
      @satansamael666 17 дней назад +1

      @@Mentifiar it’s legal in commander and vintage. Vintage isn’t so relevant but commander is decently relevant that it’s a whole cottage industry. In fact there’s some argument for it being good.

    • @fromheartfeltplaces_4627
      @fromheartfeltplaces_4627 15 дней назад +2

      As a korvold player who has asked for Reoccuring Nightmare in EDH for years... this is it at home, and I'm still 100% okay with it.

    • @satansamael666
      @satansamael666 15 дней назад

      @@fromheartfeltplaces_4627 and you’re probably already playing Dockside and OBM, so having a convenient infinite is so cash money.

  • @jul_____438
    @jul_____438 18 дней назад +79

    People getting upset about creators talking about spoilers is wild to me. I would have never guessed people care about how Hasbro want to reveal their stuff. Especially if there is monetary value in having this information earlier, like you said.

    • @MaleusMaleficarum
      @MaleusMaleficarum 18 дней назад

      Bots care... real people probably dont.

    • @RollingCalf
      @RollingCalf 18 дней назад +3

      I'm just upset that there is a constant stream of things to spoil

    • @atk9989
      @atk9989 18 дней назад

      Finance idiots care. If they stopped trying to treat magic like the stock market then spoilers wouldn't be a big deal. Also I'd bet when spoilers were less looked at it was used to inside trade with the Finance idiots.

    • @afriggs1982
      @afriggs1982 12 дней назад

      They care because it effects their income. If you are the one that gets to reveal a card, and Hasbro is paying you to do it. But info gets spoiled...you don't get paid.
      I'd be ticked if someone took 50 bucks out of my paycheck. And I'm pretty sure Hasbro pays more than 50 bucks when someone reveals for them.

    • @RollingCalf
      @RollingCalf 12 дней назад

      @@afriggs1982 lol why do they even do this. Magic requires zero advertising. Gamers are gonna find out about it no matter what

  • @5371W
    @5371W 18 дней назад +18

    Knight of the Reliquary, Fine Art
    Wright of the Reliquary, Scooby Doo Promo

    • @marcelsf23br
      @marcelsf23br 17 дней назад +5

      They did her dirty. Hate this new art.

    • @wesleywyndam-pryce5305
      @wesleywyndam-pryce5305 17 дней назад +4

      these are the kinds of invalid complaints I come to kenobi's comments to laugh at

    • @marcelsf23br
      @marcelsf23br 17 дней назад +5

      @@wesleywyndam-pryce5305 How is weak art an invalid complaint in MTG, a game were literally every card has a specific artwork?

    • @5371W
      @5371W 17 дней назад +5

      @@wesleywyndam-pryce5305 Invalid how?

    • @marcobiraghi
      @marcobiraghi 14 дней назад

      😂

  • @Asrugan
    @Asrugan 18 дней назад +45

    Preview season, now known as every single month.

    • @milramas
      @milramas 14 дней назад

      im tired boss

  • @ZovcDrafts
    @ZovcDrafts 18 дней назад +97

    Hey Papa Kenobi, you put "Modern Horizons 2" in the video description 🙈

    • @travis_approved
      @travis_approved 18 дней назад +3

      +

    • @Mwarrior1991
      @Mwarrior1991 18 дней назад +19

      yeah! change it to commander masters 2 please

    • @kerolokerokerolo
      @kerolokerokerolo 18 дней назад +5

      Shhht, dont point when he makes a mistake or he will immatuerly attack you with ad hominems. He is unable to respond to criticism in an adult form. Check the answers he gives when sombedoy makes a slightly negative.comment or criticism. It is baffling an sad to see.

    • @neorazor1403
      @neorazor1403 14 дней назад +1

      ​@@kerolokerokerolo that's actually most creators on RUclips. I've stopped participating in live streams with all content creators, aside from Heroes and Legends... John is a really down to earth guy. I'm not gonna drop names but I've been run out of live streams for disagreeing with the hosts opinion.

    • @kerolokerokerolo
      @kerolokerokerolo 14 дней назад

      @@neorazor1403 100% they act like deities that can't be criticized... it is sad to see how "power" changes people, or fame, whatever it is. I honestly don't know why you'd be so toxic towards the community that put you in the successful position you are right now... it is counterintuitive

  • @TiredMages
    @TiredMages 18 дней назад +41

    Kappa Cannoneer is going to be bananas in Modern. Most of the pieces of affinity seem relatively cheap. Would be neat to have another ok deck to rotate around with.

    • @Tooldruid
      @Tooldruid 18 дней назад +12

      Bananas to a point. Affinity has a TON of hate it will be fighting. Once you face a Meltdown for 2 good luck ever casting your Kappa, lol

    • @GeoQuag
      @GeoQuag 18 дней назад +3

      I think kappa is overhyped in the formats it’s currently legal in and they have way better affinity cards
      Kappa is the card you remember losing to as it kills you and blanks removal, but it’s not actually the thing making those decks work
      Good in modern, yes. Bananas, probably not

    • @nobodyshome6792
      @nobodyshome6792 18 дней назад

      Strong, yes. Bananas not so much.
      It just isn't as good as many other options available.
      Plus for this card, the rest of your deck is more important.

  • @danielgoldberg2129
    @danielgoldberg2129 18 дней назад +5

    Funny thing about Final Act is that it doesn’t remove your poison counters, just your opponents.😂

  • @LuckyAssult
    @LuckyAssult 18 дней назад +22

    The other reason that Chthonian Nightmare is a "fixed" version, is because of the ETB trigger. It means that you can actually blow it up with a Disenchant effect when it enters. A part of what made Reoccurring nightmares so annoying was because of how it worked with priority meaning you never would never get a chance to target it with anything besides a Counter-Spell.

    • @lancesmith8298
      @lancesmith8298 18 дней назад +4

      And on the flip side, just so we’re not gonna sit here and pretend that the card can’t be good, the fact it’s based on Energy also means that the value gained from playing it also isn’t going to go away without very specific hate. Even without the potential of more support for energy, playing your second copy probably means you can immediately come back with something that costs 6 or less mana, for 3 mana, or play out three turns of four drops for 3 apiece and only one card. This isn’t even touching on proliferate, mind you.
      The card can be interacted with, but it can come out the gate swinging, and every time you successfully get rid of one, the next copy gets scarier.

    • @satansamael666
      @satansamael666 18 дней назад +1

      The reduction in mana cost does also makes it Lurrus legal. It matters in commander where Lurrus companion decks are actually decently competitive.

    • @nobodyshome6792
      @nobodyshome6792 18 дней назад

      The thing is you are not considering deck support.
      Current energy decks can hit between 4 and 15 energy on turn 2.
      People are definitely going to be dropping 8+ cost bombs using this on turn 2 or 3.
      You will definitely see turn 2-3 Blightsteel or Karn Reforged or Liberty Prime.
      It is going to be abused so much harder than Recurring Nightmare was, despite it supposedly being the "fixed" version of the card.
      Recurring Nightmare requires a creature sacrifice. So it actually doesn't provide any card advantage when used. This new one actually creates CARD ADVANTAGE.
      Recurring Nightmare didn't produce a resource advantage (by itself) whereas this new on does. (Energy counters).
      Seriously though.
      Turn 1. Swamp, ritual, sol ring, Nightmare->1 drop, recast nightmare -> 5 drop.
      Turn 1.
      Literally something that Recurring Nightmare CANNOT accomplish.
      Have fun with those turn 1 Karn Legacy Reforged or Forgemasters. Or turn 2 Blightsteel or Wurmcoils.

    • @satansamael666
      @satansamael666 18 дней назад

      @@nobodyshome6792 the bigger usage might simply be a Dockside loop piece that doubles as a Drannith proof Breach in Blue Farm. Card’s simply cracked.

    • @nobodyshome6792
      @nobodyshome6792 18 дней назад

      @@satansamael666 I see the dockside recursion loop, but I'm not sure this will see much play in Blue Farm. By itself, it isn't going to generate much interaction. Other than as a hate-bait. And it just doesn't APPEAR to be as powerful as it actually is to experienced players. (As can be seen by almost no one thinking it is actually busted, aside from me and you.)
      Back in the day, I was an early abuser of Recurring Nightmare. It took a YEAR of competitive play for Recurring Nightmare to get banned. In my eyes, this is actually a more powerful version, despite it supposedly being the fixed version.
      As I said. This new one actually creates card and resource advantage, whereas Recurring Nightmare didn't. (Don't get me wrong, you can create advantage using Recurring Nightmare, however this new one creates that advantage alone.)
      That requiring a sacrifice creature is the reason Recurring Nightmare wasn't banned quickly. It has a sacrifice cost, and was printed during a time where token creatures were not commonly played or used. (At the time, almost every card that created token creatures was rare, costly in mana, or not even legal in tournament play....)
      Honestly. Recurring Nightmare is way more powerful now than it was in 1998.

  • @smartkaboose3806
    @smartkaboose3806 18 дней назад +28

    Is energy considered a counter? Ie, does final act drain all the energy people have?
    EDIT: yes it is, and yes it does. That makes sense as to why it's on the card as energy is a theme in the commander set (and maybe main set)

    • @ThePhoenixSlayer
      @ThePhoenixSlayer 18 дней назад +1

      Yes, energy is a counter

    • @Thoughtmage100
      @Thoughtmage100 18 дней назад +1

      Yes, they are counters.

    • @ServbotNumba40
      @ServbotNumba40 18 дней назад +2

      Experience counters are also a thing in the eldrazi deck so this was likely in there as a blanket spell to answer 2 of the major themes that are difficult to interact with.

    • @anthonydelfino6171
      @anthonydelfino6171 17 дней назад

      yes, and yes.
      Also important just in case you're playing, say, infect and your opponent is playing energy. You can proliferate your poison counter on them, but you also MUST give them another energy if you do so.

  • @theabrandt6177
    @theabrandt6177 17 дней назад +4

    Just a note, final act hits OPPONENT'S counters, which is great if you're trying to protect your own experience/energy counters, but worthless if you're getting poisoned out or radded up

  • @TheSmartCinema
    @TheSmartCinema 18 дней назад +6

    Null Elemental Blast sounds pretty good in Commander with monocolored decks. With all the colorless utility lands you can run in a monocolor deck, it's pretty easy to pay for it, and its effect is really desirable when playing monocolor outside blue. Countering Voja for 1 mana in my monowhite deck? Yes please. I kinda see it as a colorless Wash Away (1 mana commander counter).
    I will definitely experiment with it.

  • @SaltySparrow
    @SaltySparrow 18 дней назад +10

    I love how MH3 goes back to old planes like Alara. Their headlines around Kappa and Meltdown were basically what I said in my head.

  • @Megamaduo
    @Megamaduo 17 дней назад +3

    I'm really intrigued by the idea of a card that wipes all tracked game states like dungeons, monarch, day/night, etc. Problem mechanics or no it would be a nice tool to have access to.

  • @slowlylosingitaaaaaa
    @slowlylosingitaaaaaa 18 дней назад +35

    ancient tomb in modern aint no way

    • @Red_Mag3
      @Red_Mag3 18 дней назад +7

      And it can keep an Ugin warm for your tron deck

    • @wesleywyndam-pryce5305
      @wesleywyndam-pryce5305 17 дней назад

      all fast mana gets banned in modern. if opal was worth banning so is this. so it shouldn't be a problem.

    • @slowlylosingitaaaaaa
      @slowlylosingitaaaaaa 17 дней назад

      clueless

    • @thelegendarysolocard
      @thelegendarysolocard 17 дней назад

      Yes the return of locus lands

    • @MrPiotrV
      @MrPiotrV 16 дней назад

      @@wesleywyndam-pryce5305 it shouldn't be a problem? IF it gets banned, and it will still be a problem while legal. also, printing stuff just to get it banned a few months later IS a problem.

  • @Thoughtmage100
    @Thoughtmage100 18 дней назад +30

    I'm just sitting here admiring the new Goyf support.

    • @aclevername7613
      @aclevername7613 18 дней назад +3

      That is part of the set I like as well. The eldrazi and colorless bs are the worst so far.

    • @shawnpanzegraf5642
      @shawnpanzegraf5642 17 дней назад +1

      Yeah, except for Urza’s Cave, I don’t think anything except Swarmagoyf and to a lesser extent Tarmagoyf Nest has interested me about MH3 at all.
      Pile of Eldrazi crap, /yawn.

  • @greystgermain542
    @greystgermain542 18 дней назад +20

    eldrazi winter is fast approaching. might have to start making my zhulodok deck to prepare for the impending powercreep

    • @aclevername7613
      @aclevername7613 18 дней назад +1

      yea personally I just don't verse anyone using eldrazi. IF I see their commander is a eldrazi I don't bother shuffling and find another game. It will not be a fun game.

    • @Zakading
      @Zakading 18 дней назад +3

      @@aclevername7613 Very much depends on how much money they dump in. Mid-budget Zhulodok decks are honestly often just pretty mediocre and get beat to a pulp before they get any chance to do much

    • @ich3730
      @ich3730 18 дней назад +11

      @@Zakading its just another solid high power EDH deck. There are like 20 of these. let little timmy put cthulu on board and have fun

    • @nobodyshome6792
      @nobodyshome6792 18 дней назад

      While there is a deliberate push towards Eldrazi by theme of the set, the new nightmare isn't going to be used for most of them. Blightsteel, Karn, Wurmcoils on turn 1 or 2 will be considerably more common plays.
      It is going to be used for extremely powerful 5-8 drops early more than for bringing put those 9+ drops. (Except for Blightsteel. That thing is just too damn good.)

    • @ML-yn9yu
      @ML-yn9yu 18 дней назад

      Yeah I just got the precon with zhulodok and im going to work around it and build it up. The new dragon looks like a great addition

  • @jenniferwilliams9612
    @jenniferwilliams9612 18 дней назад +11

    20:22 I actually think that Flare of Denial is probably much much weaker than it looks…. They found a way to make a free counterspell underwhelming.

    • @nicks4802
      @nicks4802 18 дней назад +3

      Good

    • @florinalinmarginean1135
      @florinalinmarginean1135 17 дней назад

      Any free spell with a good effect will always be good. Flare is an insane card and can only be held back by tons of efficient removal (like Fatal Push).
      I can easily see blue tempo decks absolutely farming Tron even after all of this insane support

    • @chuckwagon3718
      @chuckwagon3718 17 дней назад +2

      My first thought was dredge. Saccing a Narcomoeba or Prized Amalgam to protect the rest of your board against something problematic, especially if you can recur the creature later, makes the cost not as bad. Maybe that's not good enough though

  • @Tjips
    @Tjips 18 дней назад +8

    Don't forget World Breaker as an imprint option for Urza's Labyrinth. Also: The fact that this land isn't legendary is bananas!

  • @BaldurtheImpious
    @BaldurtheImpious 18 дней назад +6

    The thumbnail has me dying. Peak meme material. Very hyped for MH3.

  • @Unyubaby
    @Unyubaby 17 дней назад +3

    I think Kudo's biggest impact would be against Eldrazi itself. Turning all those giant P/Ts into bear levels means you save on squirrels.

    • @anthonydelfino6171
      @anthonydelfino6171 17 дней назад

      and there's a certain subsection of gay players who want a "bear" commander... and this delivers.

  • @RyanEglitis
    @RyanEglitis 18 дней назад +7

    Urza's Workshop also looking up with these 2 new Urza lands

  • @NXPhoenix3
    @NXPhoenix3 15 дней назад +2

    Oh snap! Flare of Denial is gonna make Storm Crow even more broken!
    I acknowledge it's a cheap joke, but I could not resist.

  • @ethanhopper2467
    @ethanhopper2467 18 дней назад +8

    I’m pretty low on the “free” Counterspell. It’s not really free, because you have to spend mana on the creature. I think it’s awful in Delver style tempo decks since the pressure from your few creatures is so important, Merfolk might like it though.
    The place I think it could be abused is Dredge. Narcomoeba and Prized Amalgam both sac to it, and those you DO effectively get for free.

    • @d_andrews
      @d_andrews 17 дней назад +1

      It might not be free overall, but it's free on the turn you cast it and that's what matters. It means you can be tapped out without being "shields down" and still have that crucial counter against a combo deck, for example

    • @johnp2921
      @johnp2921 13 дней назад

      ​@@d_andrews also pretty good with snapcaster

  • @ServbotNumba40
    @ServbotNumba40 18 дней назад +4

    Its funny the ETB on Cthonian Nightmare could have been anything to fix Recurring Nightmare. It just needs to exist. What made RN hard to interact with was the fact that as soon as it resolved you could activate it and to prevent your opponent from interacting and getting the effect off. The ETB gives the table a round of priority before allowing the owner to activate. Kinda silly.

  • @EnerKaizer
    @EnerKaizer 18 дней назад +90

    I love how MTG products are slowly devolving into you getting cards from, what feels like, 15 different games instead of, you know, just Magic.
    Imagine opening up a pack, and you get 1 Uno card, 1 skip-bo-card, 1 debt-card (Parallel foil), 2 cards for commander, 2 Poker cards, 1 regular magic card, and then just a piece of paper.
    I know I'm hyperbolic here, but MTG feels like this for ages now.

    • @lost_pantheon
      @lost_pantheon 18 дней назад +4

      Yeah, every time I opened one of the Dungeons and Dragon packs it felt like I got 3 actual Magic the Gathering cards and then 12 art cards fell out of the booster pack.

    • @SirToastyToes
      @SirToastyToes 18 дней назад

      Funnily enough that exact product was one of MSCHF's, who then went on to make a Secret Lair

    • @EnerKaizer
      @EnerKaizer 18 дней назад

      @@lost_pantheon wasn't talking about guest or cameo cards from other proprties.
      I was specifically talking about the multitiude of formats plaquing the game, which just feels like MTG player sare doing everything in their might to NOT play MTG.

    • @wesleywyndam-pryce5305
      @wesleywyndam-pryce5305 17 дней назад

      *to you.
      it doesn't feel like that at all to me

    • @bohab787
      @bohab787 17 дней назад

      ​​@@EnerKaizer why is this a bad thing? If standard was the only format, you would probably complain that the game is boring.

  • @syndicate5357
    @syndicate5357 18 дней назад +3

    The Ugin Labyrinth is a crazy way to defend against a thoughtseize while also getting an advantage

    • @d_andrews
      @d_andrews 17 дней назад +2

      That might be the case occasionally, but usually the best thoughtseize target will be a spell that accelerates you towards casting the big spell, rather than the big spell itself. Obviously if you draw into natural Tron and can hide away your Karn/Ugin then you're happy, but if you need to cast spells to assemble Tron then they'll likely seize those. And of course Synthesiser decks will get their Synthesiser seized rather than a random affinity creature

  • @monkaeyes3417
    @monkaeyes3417 18 дней назад +4

    I mean yeah, this response to leaks is better than sending the pinkertons.

  • @frankieh
    @frankieh 18 дней назад +2

    Wizards: Ward is too strong.
    Wizards: Have Kappa Cannoneer in Modern.

  • @cormaca7069
    @cormaca7069 3 дня назад +1

    Crazy upside to Ugin’s Labyrinth is that you can exile it to give it protection from hand attack

  • @casually_lurking
    @casually_lurking 17 дней назад +1

    Kudo & Ayula are amazing tech together for Duskana. Bear tribal who spreads the love is a wonderful in my opinion.

  • @Theorak
    @Theorak 17 дней назад +1

    I like that there seems to be some answers printed alongside as well, non-basic stax and multicolor counter seems relevant whenever one of those is pushed too much.
    Just excited to try out Kappa Cannoneer in my budget Affinity Modern deck. Ugin's Labyrinth is just cracked.
    Urza's Cave is also good enough for mono Commander decks that always want Nykthos.

  • @_Mythic777_
    @_Mythic777_ 17 дней назад +1

    JESUS Planar Nexus seems amazing! It turns on all Urza's lands, it works with spelunking, it's returnable with Cosmium Confulence, AND it works with Maze's End! There's more interactions it has that I'm too lazy to put but damn! As for Un-cards being developed into real cards, another instance of this is Doodle Hydra becoming Neverwinter Hydra, where you pay XXGG and roll X D6 where the Hydra's power is the total roll of those dice, with an additional effect. Another thing I noticed about the set is that reprints have their original release's set symbols on the background of the text which is pretty cool

  • @ragnar3434
    @ragnar3434 18 дней назад +13

    Winter moon should be common. Shit, put it in the basic land slot. $3000 mana base go absolutely to hell

    • @robertk1834
      @robertk1834 18 дней назад +1

      some cards are better than others, therefore more sought after. deal with it.

    • @calebbarnhouse496
      @calebbarnhouse496 18 дней назад +3

      Sorry man, your gonna have to spend 80 trillion dollars on cards that exist soley to make your manabase less interesting

  • @slade-runner6773
    @slade-runner6773 18 дней назад +2

    Final Act's last mode will also hit cards with counters in exile also, so it can speed up suspend cards, and also can stop certain cards that are held in exile with a special token connect to a creature's ability on the battlefield

    • @MusicoftheDamned
      @MusicoftheDamned 18 дней назад +5

      Are you sure about that? Because the way the last mode of Final Act is worded it only affects counters "on" your opponents rather than also cards that they own or control. So suspend cards shouldn't be affected at all.

    • @slade-runner6773
      @slade-runner6773 18 дней назад +2

      @@MusicoftheDamned On second read, yeah you're right.... Damn, my imagination got the best of me

  • @anthonydelfino6171
    @anthonydelfino6171 17 дней назад +1

    Winter Orb going straight into my mono white commander deck

  • @MissingNovice
    @MissingNovice 18 дней назад +10

    To be fair, the commander cards WEREN'T supposed to be mixed in with the main set spoilers. Thats kinda the whole thing with the leak. As you said it messes with their ability to curate the information coming out in a way that better makes sense to the players.

    • @SkyFire2112
      @SkyFire2112 18 дней назад +5

      But why is there a commander product at all? It’s a modern set

    • @MissingNovice
      @MissingNovice 18 дней назад +7

      @@SkyFire2112 Why have commander product come out with standard sets? They're standard sets.
      Wether or not tying a commander product to each set release is a good thing is sort of its own topic of discussion, but at this point it'd be weird if Modern Horizons DIDN'T have commander decks given even Double Masters had them.

    • @ich3730
      @ich3730 18 дней назад +1

      @@MissingNovice Double masters did not have commander precons

    • @MissingNovice
      @MissingNovice 18 дней назад +2

      @@ich3730 Ah wait you're right. Got em mixed up with commander masters.
      Still with how they're pushing commander I dont find it surprising that they're releasing decks for this. I will admit putting 'modern' in the title is a -little- confusing but not terribly so. Its well known that commander products aren't legal like the main set things are.

  • @apeofjustice7109
    @apeofjustice7109 15 дней назад

    One of my favourite plays with Orims Chant when playing my Parfait deck in legacy a few years ago against an enchantress opponent was to target myself if the opponent has Hexproof, and it still turns off any attackers, since its not target players creatures can't attack, but all creatures in general

  • @J-Martijn
    @J-Martijn 15 дней назад +1

    Some guy named Vince in Hellstorm Wargaming's Discord told me I should watch this. So here I am.

  • @moshladaan
    @moshladaan 17 дней назад

    I was a bit concerned about Ugin's Labyrinth, but then I remember that Amulet Titan is a deck. It is nice little perk that Karn can retrieve any 7 mana artifact that may have been exiled with this land.
    Side note #1: I forgot about the conditions of "Not of this World". This seems like it could be REALLY good with Murktide Regent.
    Side note #2: I hope we get Hymn to Tourach or a version that makes them only discard one card at random, but with rebound.

  • @RBGolbat
    @RBGolbat 18 дней назад +3

    FWIW, Rangeling doesn’t really work because of the following rule: “305.7 If an effect sets a land’s subtype to one or more of the basic land types, the land no longer has its old land type. It loses all abilities generated from its rules text, its old land types, and any copiable effects affecting that land, and it gains the appropriate mana ability for each new basic land type.”

    • @christopherdowling2609
      @christopherdowling2609 18 дней назад +5

      I mean, this is kinda pointless as 1, they'd just make rangeling work if the actually printed it, 2 that only applies to type setting effects that don't include other types otherwise yavimya and urborg wouldn't function

    • @RBGolbat
      @RBGolbat 18 дней назад +5

      They also said it would require changing majorly how type-changing effects interact with basic land types which would’ve been a big hurdle to jump, and that it could make Nearby Planet too good in eternal formats, so it wasn’t worth the effort to make it work in the rules.
      Also, Urborg and Yavimaya specify “in addition to its other types.”, which is how they’re able to work without turning themselves off.

    • @connorhamilton5707
      @connorhamilton5707 18 дней назад +1

      ​@@RBGolbat​ Rangeling really wouldn't be that difficult to change so that it works in the rules.
      The real question was should they even bother, and the answer was no, because it could easily make Nearby Planet one of the most powerful lands printed.

    • @tom.prince
      @tom.prince 16 дней назад

      Also, I think Nearby Planet is close enough to exhausting the design space for rangeling that changing the rules to support it isnt worth it.

  • @daemonslayer59able
    @daemonslayer59able 18 дней назад +1

    Would this even be considered power creep? More like power-ambush!
    Love you and your content Pk thanks!

  • @pauldefillippo8490
    @pauldefillippo8490 17 дней назад +1

    Turning everything into 2/2 bears can be all upside in a Hydra deck where all of your creatures start off as 0/0 and have counters put on them.
    So it's more of a buff piece for hydra decks while kneecapping all of your opponent's creatures down to 2/2s

  • @matthewleitgen8871
    @matthewleitgen8871 18 дней назад +1

    Wight of the Reliquary pairs favorably with Bloodghast.
    You get your ghast back immediately.

  • @spikysmoothness
    @spikysmoothness 18 дней назад +2

    Annihilator is fine if it stays below 5. Anything more is absolutely suffocating, especially if you can't win off of it somehow.

  • @Silentpoppy
    @Silentpoppy 17 дней назад +1

    kudo combos with elesh norn lul...urza's cave being able to find inventors fair in my artifact edh decks is pretty dope.

  • @de245733
    @de245733 18 дней назад +3

    20post is comming boys!
    Is it gonna be good? Prob not
    But its gonna be pretty funny

  • @JasonOshinko
    @JasonOshinko 18 дней назад +1

    Expanding on an effect that removes all players from dungeons, it would be interesting but super narrow to also say it's no longer day or night, no one is the monarch, and no one can get the city's blessing.

    • @MetaKaios
      @MetaKaios 18 дней назад +2

      And everyone gets rehab for their Ring temptation.

  • @draftmagicagain1000
    @draftmagicagain1000 6 дней назад +1

    They need the cards to be crazy powerful for us to keep buying at these outrageous prices. So… Free Spells.

  • @sandwichboy1268
    @sandwichboy1268 18 дней назад

    planar nexus is going straight into my Kozilek, the Great Distortion deck.

  • @seizan88
    @seizan88 18 дней назад +1

    A knight died and became vigilant for some reason. I hate how the Wright got vigilance. Instead of deathtouch. I mean, if you ask me, it didn't need a keyword. It even ramps you.

  • @Muscari
    @Muscari 18 дней назад +134

    Content creators should ask to be compensated for previewing cards for WotC since they’re advertising their product.

    • @chartreux1532
      @chartreux1532 18 дней назад +21

      @Muscari
      I think most Creators are happy enough to get the RUclips Views and Engagement from spoiling a Card exclusively and let's be realistic. As much as i support this and think WotC should support their Community Content Creators more, i also think WotC isn't like what it was in the early 2000s. They basically don't even need any Content Creators to preview their Cards as most People enjoying these Previews don't care where they come from in the End.
      Definitely would have been a great Thing back in 2000-2010. Nowadays everyone knows where to check for new Cards and Sets and don't need to rely on Content Creators.

    • @johnathanreynolds1108
      @johnathanreynolds1108 18 дней назад +4

      ​@@chartreux1532 right! I come to watch Vincent for his personal takes/reactions, but I already know most of the spoiled cards beforehand.

    • @chartreux1532
      @chartreux1532 18 дней назад +2

      @@johnathanreynolds1108
      Exactly the same for me, i check and read the Cards myself and then check what other MTG Players think, whether SaffronOlive or PleasantKenobi etc

    • @continuechaos
      @continuechaos 18 дней назад +6

      It's already a mutually beneficial arrangement. Wotc gets free advertising, and the streamers get some extra engagement from the folks who get their spoilers that way.

    • @mikelizard3730
      @mikelizard3730 18 дней назад +4

      The sure fire way for WOtC to stop giving out previews lol.

  • @PraiseTheToaster
    @PraiseTheToaster 17 дней назад

    That winter moon will find a good place in my mono green commander deck! :D

  • @ashtongaskill3980
    @ashtongaskill3980 18 дней назад

    Looking forward to your Problem with Horizons thoughts. These sets are hype to see previewed and fun to draft (if you can fire drafts at that price point) but the historical effects on constructed formats is a dark spectrum over preview seasons now.

  • @Tyke-Myson
    @Tyke-Myson 18 дней назад +1

    I'm really, really high on funni Emerge dragon. I'm for sure building him in Commander, but I also think there might be some legs there for a super fun modern deck.

  • @thefinalboss4471
    @thefinalboss4471 18 дней назад +5

    Someone tell Ugin to stop building things

  • @Voyajer.
    @Voyajer. 18 дней назад +5

    Final act should have nuked emblems instead of counters

    • @PleasantKenobi
      @PleasantKenobi  17 дней назад

      That would have been interesting.

    • @egoalter1276
      @egoalter1276 2 дня назад

      You can never leave "eefinitely uninteractable this time, I swear" actually uninteractable fir too long, now can you.

  • @crondog
    @crondog 18 дней назад +1

    I like how the dog doesn't have the classic race/class typing. It's just dog. He's just a guy.

  • @chuckcharlesz
    @chuckcharlesz 18 дней назад +2

    Ugin's Labyrinth isn't a legendary? Yikes.

  • @SaltySparrow
    @SaltySparrow 18 дней назад

    Mono blue Affinity with Kappa, Counter backup and Null blast will be fantastic

  • @Cy8erTron1x
    @Cy8erTron1x 18 дней назад

    Kudo has great synergy with Duskana, that naya legendary bear released in MKM.

  • @TehFoamy
    @TehFoamy 17 дней назад

    If I were to play Orim's Chant in Modern, I'd probably play it in some kind of artifact-based toolbox deck with Isochron Scepter, Thopter-Sword, and Tribute Mage
    I'd then go 1-3 drop

  • @Moosetattchio
    @Moosetattchio 17 дней назад +1

    orim's chant + Isochron Scepter *VOMITS*

    • @draftmagicagain1000
      @draftmagicagain1000 День назад +1

      The extended power house is back. But it’s been legal in legacy forever and I don’t think it sees any play.

  • @robertomacetti7069
    @robertomacetti7069 18 дней назад +2

    one land tron ladies and gentlemen
    i... have feelings on this

    • @wesleywyndam-pryce5305
      @wesleywyndam-pryce5305 17 дней назад

      one if the coolest cards printed. tron is too hard to assemble in commander.

    • @robertomacetti7069
      @robertomacetti7069 17 дней назад

      @@wesleywyndam-pryce5305 in commander sure, i completely agree
      in legacy is kinda bonkers and thank god (that's hilarious) is not legal in modern

  • @kindredspirit9703
    @kindredspirit9703 14 дней назад

    I think having one free counterspell in a format is borderline a good thing as a safety valve for "unfair" combo decks that I like to play. Arguably Flare of Denial is an improvement from the BS they did with evoke elementals because you have to actually commit resources to the board (and therefore probably spend mana) to have it available to free cast. However, increasing the pool of free spells like this is going to have lasting consequences on Modern, like how the Flare cycle interacts with the evoke elementals

  • @isvvc_
    @isvvc_ 18 дней назад +1

    That thumbnail is haunting

  • @johngleeman8347
    @johngleeman8347 18 дней назад +1

    I love Kenobi saying a card is cracked.

  • @aurorahrndt
    @aurorahrndt 18 дней назад

    21:28 Just built a Dimir Aristocrats deck, saw this spoiler, and immediately said this was going in it.

  • @israeldavila27
    @israeldavila27 18 дней назад +3

    I don’t care what anyone thinks; Urza’s GOON Cave.

  • @tikamajere316
    @tikamajere316 16 дней назад

    I love to see these bits and pieces of Alara!!!

  • @blizzfreak245
    @blizzfreak245 17 дней назад

    Oh boy, can't wait for Eldrazi Summer where the only decks duking it out are Eldrazi and Affinity again lol

  • @JoelBurger
    @JoelBurger 18 дней назад +1

    While I don't doubt that some leaks like this are manufactured, don't underestimate people's inability to take a picture. Just look at any given Japanese locals results and you'll see what kind of glare-filled blurry 144p pictures people are still able to take nowadays.

  • @erkshcr
    @erkshcr 18 дней назад +1

    phone cameras can put a hidden little code in your picture to identify who took it, people could blur the image afterwards for safety

    • @anthonydelfino6171
      @anthonydelfino6171 17 дней назад

      you can scrub/change the meta data without destroying the quality of the image, we do something similar all the time at my work

    • @erkshcr
      @erkshcr 17 дней назад

      @@anthonydelfino6171 it's not the meta data, they put random 1 off pixels around the picture that gives it an identifier. kind of like a proprietary qr code

  • @anthonydelfino6171
    @anthonydelfino6171 17 дней назад

    19:40 they already showed off Scurry of Gremlins as an uncommon in the main set that makes energy, so I think we're going to see it as a draft theme for the set

  • @greyaye8565
    @greyaye8565 17 дней назад

    Nice to see that I wasn't the only person that was disappointed that Phelia doesn't trigger on EtB. Why give it flash then? It's really weird...

  • @LunarWingCloud
    @LunarWingCloud 18 дней назад +1

    Gotta love how we're wrapping back around to Moxen-type cards again with the new Ugin land.
    Yes. I know it's narrow. Yes, I know it's a land drop and not an artifact. Please don't get all "um actually 🤓☝️" in the replies. It just feels insteresting we can accelerate mana by pitching cards in any capacity with new cards in 2024.

  • @MrScourge42
    @MrScourge42 18 дней назад

    Chthonian Nightmare + Name Sticker Goblin + Agent of Stromgald = Pure Janky goodness.

  • @brokevenger3867
    @brokevenger3867 17 дней назад

    That thumbnail is terrifying

  • @KingBrachion92
    @KingBrachion92 18 дней назад

    Spawn-Gang Commander only squirting out tokens on cast makes it slightly less appealing since it doesn't work with stuff like Moggcatcher or Kiki-Jiki (and that's probably exactly why it doesn't), but S-G Lieutenant may find its way into Purphoros.

    • @PleasantKenobi
      @PleasantKenobi  17 дней назад +1

      Most importantly, it's not broken with Eldrazi Displacer. That was probably intentional.

  • @DAsrada
    @DAsrada 18 дней назад

    Holy shit the Siege Gang Lieutenant can go into just, so many of my Aristocrats decks with Red in them.

  • @dissipation
    @dissipation 16 дней назад

    i do think null elemental blast could see play out side of colorless decks, plenty to decks play utility lands that could power it up

  • @ScottKDrums
    @ScottKDrums 18 дней назад

    Flare of Denial works the way you want with Kess :)

  • @jadegrace1312
    @jadegrace1312 18 дней назад

    I think when evaluating Phelia you should probably think less about commander and more about other formats where attacking and marginal value are more relevant (I'm thinking mostly about cube). I think in those environments Phelia will be very, very strong already, so I wouldn't necessarily want them to push it more.

  • @beanofknowledge2125
    @beanofknowledge2125 17 дней назад +1

    So ... Is it time for Eldrazi Winter Two - 'Drazi harder?

  • @Cybershroom
    @Cybershroom 18 дней назад

    When I look at Ugin's Labyrinth, all I see is a Anicent Tomb with upsides for artifact players.

  • @stevenkirton6373
    @stevenkirton6373 18 дней назад

    They should make more cards like the "pact" cycle, it was fair because it was like a mana loan and if you didnt pay you lost and it never feels annoying to get hit with

  • @CDShap
    @CDShap 17 дней назад

    The Each opponent loses all counters makes me wonder if we will see the experience mechanic make a return in the commander decks.

    • @anthonydelfino6171
      @anthonydelfino6171 17 дней назад

      the legends for the decks got leaked, and so far the answer there is no, unless it's on one of the alternative commanders.
      likely in it's own eco system, it just messes with the energy deck

  • @zlink88
    @zlink88 18 дней назад

    I'm so stoked for the lil doggy

  • @StayNPlayGames
    @StayNPlayGames 18 дней назад +2

    Because Planar Nexus is all three Urza land types, wouldn't that mean you have six mana turn two if you play it and a tower? (Each tower taps for 3?)

    • @Wrswest
      @Wrswest 18 дней назад +4

      No, because the ability for Urza's Tower to add 3 is an ability of the Urza's Tower, the card, NOT an ability of Urza's Tower, the land sub-type. The Urza's lands are confusing because both the card names and the card subtypes are in fact exactly the same, but as far as the game's concerned these are two different things.

    • @StayNPlayGames
      @StayNPlayGames 18 дней назад +1

      @@Wrswest ah, that makes sense, my mistake. The Nexus would only tap for one as it's only the subtype but not an actual Urza land, therefore doesn't have the abilities that add multiple colourless.

    • @egoalter1276
      @egoalter1276 2 дня назад

      Are we sure? Basics get their mana abilities from the subtype. Do nonbasiscs explicitly not? This needs a rulws qualification probably.

    • @Wrswest
      @Wrswest 22 часа назад

      @@egoalter1276 They do not. I can't explain why this is the case, but if it were the case that the land ability was of the nonbasic subtype instead of just the card itself, then the tap ability for the Urza lands would be reminder text (reminder text is italicized text in parenthesis that explains rules you already know.) instead of rules text.

  • @thefallenlime
    @thefallenlime 18 дней назад

    I like the idea of Phelia in an Isshin deck.

  • @thatepicwizardguy
    @thatepicwizardguy 17 дней назад +1

    Doesn't Urza's Cave not interact with Tron because it's type is cave not mine/tower/power-plant? which is what those lands require? so you could find a tron land but it itself is not a tron land?
    idk i dont play that trash, but that's what the text is telling me? but maybe reading the card doesn't explain the card as is sometimes the case

  • @ThandrieDavis
    @ThandrieDavis 18 дней назад

    Winter Moon: PONZA IS BACK

  • @esrohm6460
    @esrohm6460 18 дней назад

    can't wait to see if you can make a halfway playable kudo + 0cmc creature deck. just play a land and somehow make another mana turn 1 play kudo play 3 0/1 ehm i mean 2/2 and attack for 3 turns to win and now that i say that that making 8 power turn 1 is only winning turn 4 means it wouldn't even be good enough which is wild

  • @danielgraves13
    @danielgraves13 18 дней назад +1

    final act also removes energy

  • @michaelklixbullfreund6068
    @michaelklixbullfreund6068 14 дней назад

    Dosn't final act remove All experince country as well.?
    Which to me seems quite strong.
    But I might be wrong😁

  • @coreysierchio4650
    @coreysierchio4650 18 дней назад

    *Thanks for the Content!*

  • @homebrewed
    @homebrewed 18 дней назад

    Maybe Safekeeper in a Slickshot RG deck, it's notabley a wizard to turn on Wiz Lightning

  • @110019a
    @110019a 14 дней назад

    Eldrazi tron is back baby

  • @pbjdelight2429
    @pbjdelight2429 16 дней назад

    12 post is back baby, maybe we got 16 post now !!