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An Improvement on my Favorite Fountain Pen? Or a Hoax? - Kaweco Sport
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Today I'm doing a small and somewhat ineffective investigation into the demonstrator (clear) versions of the Kaweco CLASSIC Sport Foutain Pens. I've had several different versions of this pen, but I never realized that there were demonstrator versions available, and I looooove demonstrator pens. So I found one demonstrator variant, for the standard $25, and then I found another, for $70, and I was expecting there to be something special about it.
Spoiler alert, there's nothing inherently special about it except that it's just rare. The Kaweco Black Crystal is apparently a limited run of 1000 pieces, which accounts for the increased price. It's really my own fault for not reading the item descriptions better and expecting that there was more to it. A limited run is totally fair reason for charge more, it's just a bit of a jolt when that's not what you're expecting. But like I said, it's my fault, I hoaxed myself!
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00:00 Intro
00:20 Saying some things
00:25 A few words
00:35 Basically what's going on here today
00:50 it's a pen
01:00 hm
01:15 I looked everywhere!
01:30 just breathe
02:05 I like demonstrator pens
03:00 a bunch of pens
03:05 with clear parts
03:13 trying to have x-ray vision
04:17 video sponsored by squarespace
05:17 my friend dan
05:30 canals get clogged
10:50 clip which you can slide onto a pen
14:55 video starts
I love the way peter sounds like he does'nt care at all, but at the same time sounds like he is extremely intrested.
Years of being a school teacher 😂
Intrigued is the word I was thinking but either or I agree
I like clear pens because they let me look right through them at the disappointment I've drawn on the page.
Relatable but I don’t have clear pens
Ok Debbie downer.
Demonstrators are the best fr
Don't be hardy on yourself
Video starts at 0:00 guys, no need to thank me.
I think the green kaweco sport fell between two molecules like last time, im sure you'll find it soon.
1. Welcome to the baffling world of Collector's Edition fountain pens. You pay more basically so that not too many other people can have the same pen as you.
2. Some very fine detail you achieve with that Kaweco.
i suppose paying more for rarer pens is something you really can’t avoid given that they have to be manufactured at small scale.
@@nuloom but... but it's literally the same pen???
@@fakename287 making a different pen is just more expensive by virtue of using materials that the manufacturer isn't accustomed to. The material orders are smaller so end up more expensive per kg/whatever the order price unit is. Also it's not like they have some magical "drop any material you can think of here and I will shape it into your pen" machines. If a limited edition pen is made from metal instead of regular plastic, or perhaps even plastic that's harder/behaves differently, it adds on a lot of effort vs making regular pens. The less optimised every part of the process the more expensive a pen will get, and that can happen even if it's just a different colour or engraving. That, plus of course the extra companies sometimes put on the things in general. It has no much explanation other than just a use of people who want to pay more for a product that will probably sell out anyway.
I looked up the Black Crystal and it seems the only functional difference is a coating on the nib that Kaweco claims makes it more durable
I can’t get over how awesome his doodling is. I mean I come for the pens and have stayed for the artwork. ❤️
Love Kaweco sport - I have found that the ink capacity is greatly improved by refilling a cartridge rather than using the converter.
BTW, I'd be happy to take one of the pens off your hands...
I was thinking about dan just yesterday, not long ago i would never have thought that in my spare time I'd be thinking about a tiny man that lives in the fridge of a guy that ive never even met half a world away.
Don't change anything Peter, about how you do your Peter Draws RUclips Channel. You're unique, and I rather enjoy your expertise and the fact that you did research on the more pricey pen. Nah, you got it down fella. Leave your style of presentation just as it is. Never try to change perfection.
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Edits to say: I loved your drawing here btw. I love when you have large sections of pure black colored into the creation. It really makes it have depth. Also how you effortlessly drew the leavey vines was impressive. It was like, "bloop a leafy vine here - now another". Just a sweet artistic gift you have Peter. 😎
DLC coatings are used fairly often on firearms to protect them. It's a pretty tough coating. Thanks for the videos Peter! Unique and enjoyable chill experiences as always!
Oh, and I like that you talk about the pens in the start of the videos!
DLC is a real thing and is pretty common in tools used for machining and certain types of pocket knives. It essentially makes a super strong finish that won't wear off and makes the metal underneath rust resistant and keeps it from wearing out and scratching. I guess it's meant to extend the life of the nib or at least keep it looking new for a long as possible
It also makes it look cool
"14:50 video starts" lmao, love the chapter titles
"Busting FP marketing tactics still being polite with the manufacturer and educational for users" would be another title for this.
I was expecting a more condensed and hectic video, but was happily surprised. Very soothing and fun vibe you've got going on. I like it a lot!
Soothing vibe is his default, part of reason why i like his videos.
bro, this guys setup is brighter than my future!
Your videos are like ASMR. You have the voice, the pen sounds, really nice video.
I got the brass Kaweco Sport a little while ago. It's pretty nice. I've always wanted to get an unlacquered saxophone, and if I do someday, I'll have a pen to match it.
Big fan of you the way you connect with your audience... Watching your channel from last 10 years
Since I’m always looking for something I feel your frustration. I tend to always be organizing stuff and then I forget where I put things and end up just buying whatever it is I am looking for and then just like magic I find what I was looking for 👀😳😱👀
I love listening to the pen unboxing and discussion. I found this channel when I was fountain pen shopping. It was after that I fell in love with listening to the talk during the drawings.
Bless you Peter (For the sneeze I assume came) I've been chilling watching the videos sence the only drawing days, I think Chapters would be a good idea sometimes I am in the mood to just watch you ramble and doodle. I like the reviews it just isn't the video I am looking for at the time and I forget you always doodle at the end.
DLC is actually a very good procedure to make black coating. It's very durable and can take quite a beating. The problem is that you don't have that kind of stress on a fountain pen nib.
I️ just started following you this year and love the pen intros! I️ don’t know much about drawing, but the fountain pen info is great.
Wow that’s one of my most favorite drawings ever. This was really great Peter
when he pulled out the baggy of demonstrator pens, im like "that baggy has at least 2 to 300 buckaroonies of pens in there!"
I’m amazed at your drawings! You’ve probably answered this before, but do you have a picture in your mind of the finished drawing, or do you just start and see where you end up?🥰
Have you looked into getting a noodlers boston safety pen yet? That pen is supposed to be made as a tool pen for the artist. Seems like it would be right up your alley.
yea -- Peter, you could use some pretty wild inks that would wreck a normal fountain pen.
My kaveco BRASS sport is among my favorite pens, if you haven't checked it out you should look into it :) Thanks for everything Peter, you always help brighten things up!
its my favorite pen. Always in my pocket getting a lovely patina.
@@Patxi52 i genuinely was overjoyed the first time I dropped it (after making sure the nib was fine) and saw the tiniest little dent on the cap near the jewel. Over the moon haha
I appreciate all the chapters in this video!
Gorgeous drawing today. And your videos always start at the beginning for me, as they should.
When he mentioned "Start-up", for a second I was thinking about the k-drama tv series akskskskksks
Sending you and Dan some virtual hugs just cause :)
Hope you're doing well
When I saw the tagline about an improvement on your "favorite" pen, I thought perhaps it was some kind of updated information on why the Muji round aluminum pens seen to be getting scarce (and why the prices jumped to double on the Japanese sites a few months ago, though they're still on Amazon now for just under $18).
Yeah, it's the "limited edition" that makes it collectible and thus a premium price. Although, I am glad to see that for that price they include ALL the extras they should, like a converter, a full box of cartridges rather than just one in the tube, AND a clip, and all in a presentation box. I'd go a little higher than you and give them $25 for all the extras (that box of ink cartridges is about $6, too, if you pay full retail some places, and I'd credit 'em an easy $7 for the tin). So, then, you're really only paying about $25 over what the basic Kaweco Sport and all the goodies would cost. It's not to me, but I'm sure there are some Kaweco lovers and collectors who think that $25 is more than reasonable for a limited edition pen with such a small production run.
Almost forgot... My Narwhal Peter Pen with a fine point arrived yesterday! I inked mine up with De Atramentis Document Fog Grey. Looks and writes beautifully! So glad I managed to snag one before they were out this time!
BTW... Did you ask Dan if he borrowed your pen and didn't put it back? See if it's under his couch cushions?
Roommates, always hiding your fountain pens am I right ?
Yet another relaxing video Peter, much love. For the record I thoroughly enjoy your pen-centric intros
Dan is so handsome 😳 omg
*heavy sigh*
Get in line, pal
DLC is a fairly costly process, but also usually looks fairly interesting, which the Black Crystal trim doesn't seem to. Maybe it isn't coming through on camera.
Hey Dan, you're doing great.
I have the Al Sport and I absolutely love it. Recently bought the Liliput as an even smaller sidekick and I love that as well. Al Sport is still my favorite pen.
the clips look great on the non-demonstrator sports, also helps them to look less like tampons when capped!
Did you get them confused...😳
For me , I very much love the unboxing part of the video :)
I wish the Peter Pen was still being sold so I could buy a second one with the fine nib. 😔
Hello Peter, well I missed getting my Peter pen, again! They seem to sell out very quickly. I got the e-mail notification and by the time I got home it was sold out. I hope they keep re-stocking them! I enjoyed watching this video and I hope that you find your green pen soon. Please take care and be safe, and above all else keep creating those videos of your amazing drawings!
I missed it too, but they said that was the last batch. 🙁
I'm here for the whole show, bring it on
Love the Kaweco sport series. Have quite a few with different nibs and wee small converters for bottled ink. That said, the Peter pen is definitely my favorite pen of all time.....!
It was funny - I worked in construction and am amazing at math and even I was tracking like $6 + $6 = $14. When you corrected yourself I was taken a'back like Ah, even I had the wool over my eyes!
On a more serious note, I love this video as well as all your other ones. Thank you for my weekly philisophical and therapy session! So much to learn by listening.
70$ well spent! Keep on drawin Pete!
im glad you took care of your insect problem
Black PVD nib alone is about US$25 more than a regular nib. And it's a special and exclusive edition with matching clip and comes in a tin, ... etc. The pricing sounds about right. ;p PVD coated nib also writes a little bit different with a kind of feedback you may or may not like.
I've missed Dan. Really enjoyed the video.
That ship crack backed up bit was good. Oh boy Dan the Man
i think the diamond light coating must be about the resilience of the black coloring on the nib?
They may be using DLC as a marketing tool, but it isn’t a gimmick. I’m a machinist, and you can get DLC and other PVD coatings on cutting tools. They do extend the cutting life of the tool and allow you to increase the speeds and feeds that you can run the tool at. Sorry for the random machine tool facts😆
I have just bought the keweco sport brass with Ef nib and a spare medium nib brilliant pen(already have the sport classic) from your recommendation. Keep the long intros with drawings of course, and what a drawing it is✍️👍
Who are these thump down people? They can't have a heart. It's absolutly impossible not to love Peter!
Another Peter Draws video! Hello Peter, please say hi to Dan for me
from my experience, in Germany basically for KAWECO pens over 25€ you get a metal box. even the Sport series. thanks for the video and best regards.
Pen/drawing implements, tools? Those are all part of this channel! Enjoy those! As well as your works in progress.
I love my kaweco sport! awesome little pen
I considered getting this Kaweco for its black medallion and nib but then saw the price tag and decided against it. I would reconsider the buy if it were made using a metal barrel, if the price was comparable to that found with the AL Sport line, and if Kaweco got rid of (what I consider to be cheezy) the "Black Crystal" wording. I'd also purchase if the black medallion/nib were put on any of the Frosted versions, particularly the white (Natural Coconut) and yellow (Sweet Banana) ALONG with a price drop. Thanks for the video!
I seem to run into the same "Special Edition" extra expense with Retro 51, and yes, Kaweco for sure. Some of the thieves on eBay try pawn them off, at excessive prices, with terms like "very rare", "hard to find", or the most popular one, "VINTAGE". Which I believe is the code word for bleed the sucker dry!! As always Peter, a great fun video to watch, and a bonafide honest inquiry! Thank you very much. God bless, & be well.
Apparently it has a coating that makes it more durable. Plus the black trim.
Love the wacky and funny intros. Keep it up.
Wow. I literally bought this exact pen (the cheaper one, with gold nib) last week after I saw it somewhere on instagram! :')
Did not have a chance to draw with it yet as converter is still shipping ('common' converters that I usually use do not fit in this body, it needs a tiny one).
Now I'm even more excited. :)
a gorgeous drawing
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my ar15 has some inner parts coated with dlc it helps the grime wipe off easily and it it very hard to scratch
I like the longer intros 👍
I actually recently broke my kaweco. I forgot it in my pocket and washed it in the washer. For some reason it completely fell apart... it was the lavender edition so it broke my heart.
Is the pen numbered? If not who's to say they don't produce more than 1000? 1000 is a pretty high number for something limited I'd say.
That’s a really cool jacket, where did you get it?
Last time someone said that, he ripped the sleeves off!
You should definitely try the vintage kaweco sport.
I love this drawing.
I mentioned you in the comments on a Bill Wurtz video yesterday. Two of the best youtubers out there imho! Love the demonstrator bag for the demonstrator pens. Lost my only demonstrator (Noodler Ahab). Wasn't disappointed as I am not too keen on seeing what's under the bonnet (or hood for you good people 'cross the pond).
From what I've read, any of the black coated nibs have issues with the plating coming off. Not sure if it is worth the extra cost...
That said, the regular Kaweco Sport is one I like. OdE, another RUclipsr, has an obsession with the Kaweco Sport, and is well on the way to having one of each ever made. Like you, I'd prefer the syringe filler (the "official" name of the type of converter you have) over the cartridge. I'd rather have the converter over the ultimate cost of the cartridges (5x what bottled ink cost, average.) I'm on a fixed income, so... 😉
I have a pen that's even smaller than the Sport. A vintage New Diamond Midget. Uncapped, about the same size as a cartridge for the Kaweco. Posted, it's still tiny, but useable.
Thanks for the commentary on the Kaweco, and letting us see your drawing!
Hi peter. It’s mr muji here. Blessings to you. Jim
How do you simultaneously look like the love child of Matthew McConaughey, Gene Wilder, and Christopher Walken? Not a criticism...
Who sells the Kaweco demonstrator fountain pen? I cannot find it on any store website.
Hey Peter, have you ever seen the "Aurora Ottantotto Black Demonstrator Limited Edition 188 Sketch Pencil?"
+ 1 for demonstrators
i have the bog-standard Kaweco Sport; lovely drawing pen
pretty sure i'd never buy any kind of 'collectors edition' - would rather buy a completely different pen and give that a go
Dan don't be shy! We love you 💜
Did Geoff move out? Was it too cold for him?
really rockn that beard my man
The black nibs are probably responsible for the price difference... Kaweco also sells them separately & they're considerably more expensive than your garden variety nib,
Hi Peter I saw some people in the comments partly explaining that DLC is legit and used in tools. I think how it relates to you though is that they tend to be stiffer nibs, which i know you like. Maybe you could tell a difference vs your other Kawecos, but maybe not. For what its worth, they sell their normal feed/nib replacements for 11 bucks and they sell the DLC replacements for 40 so there's your missing cost. with the converter, the clip and the DLC nib its actually a pretty decent deal, if one decides they like DLC nibs.
Yea that’s what I noticed it should be more than 70 but it’s not so …. Decent deal I guess lol
Hi Dan! Hi Peter!
I've been losing things lately. I go to get something, it's not there, I look everywhere don't find it, then later go back and it's exactly where it was meant to be. Weird. Don't know if it's me or people sneakily borrowing things and returning them.
Peter where do you get your Roche ring Isa graphs idk how to spell them
Love your channel! I’m left handed would you recommend a left handed fountain pen? I hear they make such a thing.
what ink those pens use ? sorry i'm really new to this. got one pen with that rechargable thing and i have a bottle of parker quink and Sumi ink 60 by Kuretake at home. . idk if those inks work or they will dry and ruin the pen. thanks if anyone sees this.
I have several different kinds of inks and you should always use fountain pen ink in fountain pens. If you use a shellac/lacquer or “art“ ink it can get gummed up and ruin your fountain pen. I hope this helps good luck in your fountain pen adventures!
@@mjpete27 thankyou
Black Crystal (Mori Maril) is an ancient Elven crystal compound. Only a limited amount of it has ever been found and it is said to be valuable in the most extreme sense of the word. I'm amazed that you were able to even get a pen holding some amount of Mori Maril.
Please consider securing it somewhere safe, it makes me sad to break these news to you, but there are many who actively seek such ancient matter. I think I have made my point crystal clear by now but I don't see why I wouldn't iterate once more that you should take utmost care of the pen, despite the sacrifices that will most likely have to be made.
Right in time for my weaving time. Thanks Peter
A limited edition should have something limited about it though, a unique touch. Different color doesn't really count, at least not with the price difference in mind. Edit: DLC coating kind of makes up for it, or does it? At least it is a legit thing. DLC is used in high-performance stuff like Formula1 engines and drill bits.
Seems like something that the German pen companies do. Release a colour variation in a limited number, it becomes a "collectable." Lamy does the same thing with the Safari or Al-Star (which I find ugly in general, so I'm not adding to the Lamy "collectability." 😁) Just gimme a good writer, and I'm happy. 😉
Oh. As to the black nib. Almost all black nibs tend to have issues with the coating coming off at some point. Not really worth the additional cost, IMO.
At that price I would genuinely expect a crystal pen body or at least grip section.
@@lukeshepherd9529 You should see the price of something like that... 😬
What is your favorite ink brands for fountain pens?
Have you watched Silicon Valley? It’s got a somewhat similar premise to Start Up
10:58, hexagonal? do you mean octagonal?
i’ve never been so early to a video 😳😳
This video is George Carlin level comedy. Pace. And informative too. Respect.
Honestly, I am not one bit embarrassed by the gleeful little gasp I made when I noticed Dan on the desk
Peter: did you know you are a GIF on Facebook? “We’ll talk about it more”, I just happened across it 10 min ago 😆
He plugged it in a video! They had to ask his permission to make the gifs :)
Man should make his own fountain pen at some point
already has one, the peter pen
Can you link a site to check out their selection/purchase?