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Yea more info i found out later on from my situation in the comments that, the cpu i got had a bent pin, but how could they repackage with the intel label sticker? you have to break from the factory? it was sealed closed and i found out i had the very "1st", distributed production version of the 12900k, i thought that was neat, says 001 on the back am i right to assume that? I can provide video/img if need be, just sharing the experience. I bent the one pin back to "perfection", with a pin (nvr did it b4) took an actual magnified glass to a phone camera, to be sure i got it and did a 360 and couldn't spot it at all, think i got an video/img of that also. All cores are loaded and all that jazz. The products have been find, but idk whats going on with the so called RTX on the gfx, what tests do i need to run, besides gaming, the pc is nvr nor will ever be online so can't really do that stuff atm. I do video/rendering/three dimensional(game character design) works. I do use an engine that utilizes the RTX options but it just seems very weird and like it is not really doing anything, its like software or hardware locked, i did tests before this with the 12 year old gfx card i had and it does more than this, sh!t does... edit oh yea and RTX or raytracing in real time has been out for over 10 years from just looking for videos on the subject on the tube... like renderings in real time they aren't really doing anything new which tells me they are forcefully hardware/software locking these.."advances".
@@tofuteh2348 Owner if userbenchmark is some deranged intel fanboy who goes on rants about AMD and changes how userbenchmark scoring works whenever an AMD processor beats intel processors. Like, the dude is REALLY unhinged lol. Edit: Great video to watch on the subject is "Userbenchmark - the April Fools that never ends" from 2kliksphilip. Does a great job of showcasing the whole situation. It's sad really, UserBenchMark could have been a great source of data for benchmarking if it wasn't owned by some deranged person lol.
@@TheHighborn About a month before the last Newegg incident, reported by GN, my business swore them off. We've had nothing but trouble for, at least, 4 years.
Well Steve, you gave them a chance to redeem themselves. Sad that it’s going this way, but we the consumer appreciate your coverage. Never stop holding them accountable!!
Hell yeah they were like were trying to fix the problems...7 months later...same old shit tbh I don't even bother buying anything at newegg anymore and I was a customer for more then a decade.
Gotta love racist revisionism. You know that both the "new owners" and the founders were all chinese right? Also, as addressed in jay's video on newegg, they have been doing this (denying refunds, ripping off customers) since the early 2000s, long before they were bought in 2016.
@@anivicuno9473 the owners after egghead was turned into newegg were significantly better than the current owners business practices are. I remeber egghead, and why it burned.
@@anivicuno9473 What does race have to do with this? The OP is simply bringing up how they perceive the business under new management to be less trustworthy. Nowhere do they mention it's because of the nationality of the new owners. Shut up please.
i love that the tech tubers have gotten to the point where manufacturers reach out to them to give us both good and bad news, appreciate your work makes part buying so much less stressful
I think we should be expecting memory prices to crash in the coming weeks and months. Between Newegg trying to dump excess inventory, Microcenter literally giving away DDR5 memory with an AM5 build, and Micron cutting capital investment by 50% due to deteriorating demand, all signs point to a massive glut of supply coming in the immediate future.
There is also the downturn in the PC market generally to consider. Cheap DDR5 atm is more than likely bad DDR5 memory as mentioned above.DDR5 will remain significantly higher than DDR4 for the time being, they will always be able to sell DDR5, demand for DDR4 will slowly start to dry up and that is when DDr4 will become more expensive. Has happened with every version of memory to date.
@@nhojlagap6222 brain fart implies a mistake... This is like the 4th or 5th notable fuck up that's beyond just a typo or small oopsie. This is purposful targeting.
@@siege2928 then it would be better to say "it's our shit that counts". Since their thought process is worst than a brain fart and i can't think of a better word for brain fart.
Lisa Su mentioned that RDNA3 would be multi-chip about a month ago during the GPU portion of the Ryzen 7000 announcement. At 31:00 she stated "by combining our most advanced gaming architecture with 5nm chiplets, RDNA3 GPUs..."
I must say, I'm pretty excited to see what RDNA3 brings! I hope they come with enough streaming processors to compete with Nvidia for the higher res display crowd 🙏. I also hope they don't go insane with their pricing, slots, and power consumption. If they can nail all three, they will clean Nvidia's clock!
I was the one who posted about the Newegg bundle on Reddit a few days ago. Needless to say the story blew up. I feel honored GN is covering it lol. Back to you Steve!
@@David_Crayford Haha I wouldn’t say no to a mod-mat but it’s ok. Tbh I’d just hate to see anyone order bundles like this fast without realizing they’re incompatible and have their return rejected by the company. This is a very deceptive practice and needs to be called out so I’m glad Steve covered it.
@@offspringfan89 tbh your joke flew over my head the first time I read this but I finally got it after watching a few more Intel videos on this channel 😂 hilarious
@n n It doesn't matter if it came from the factory like that. They're still improvised explosives devices because they're meant to be power supplies, but instead of being power supplies, they explode.
Note @5:30: I recently had a friend who needed an upgrade of their cpu/MB. I was surprised to find that micro center actually sells their cpu/MB combos on amazon, as can be seen. It's basically the same deal as just going to the store, except you can get it shipped for free from amazon. So Newegg is in deep trouble lol...
@@Watchfulfox I second that. If you don’t have a micro center near you, then I do feel sorry for you. It’s a brick and mortar store with employees that actually understand some of the hardware they’re selling. At minimum, they’d know to put ddr5 in an am5 build lol.
Really glad to see Fractal and Arctic to owning up to their mistakes and offering solutions to fix the issue and relaying information to good media outlets like GN.
After Newegg knowingly threw their customers under the bus due to shady tax schemes, I quit them cold turkey. I dont even care that it got worked out where the consumers (in my state at least) were NOT on the hook, just knowing that Newegg would treat its customers with such disregard put me off them completely.
@@jamesconley6919 from what I gathered on Google it sounds like people were hit with tax bills well after purchasing from new egg. Not sure if this is the same one he's talking about
@@seegee9 There is no shady tax scheme from Newegg. People were committing tax fraud by not reporting their untaxed/out of state purchases on their tax returns like they're supposed to, and then it caught up with them and the states came back looking for the unpaid taxes. People blamed Newegg for this instead of taking personal responsibility for their own tax fraud. There's a lot of problems with Newegg, but taxes are not one of them.
I really appreciate Fractal's willingness to get ahead of and make it easy for people to get problems fixed. I wish other companies knew that customer service and transparency was a value add.
Thanks to this video I just created my support ticket with fractal for my lumen cooler. Never would have known about this issue if it wasn't for the great work you guys do keeping people up to date on issues like these. Keep up the great work, its appreciated greatly.
Well said and agreed. I am now in receipt of a replacement gasket for my Arctic Liquid Freezer...which I would not have ordered, or likely even known about, had I not been a subscriber and regular viewer.
Jesus for real. I remember building my first rig back in '08, all my parts came from Newegg. As far as I can tell, they were a decent enough company to work with then. That certainly doesn't seem to be the case anymore.
@@sirius4k Not really. They were just a good store to buy computer components from. But the point is more like if they had gone out of business instead of becoming what they are now, they'd be remembered fondly.
@@zackakai5173 I never bought anything from me egg, back in the beginning I just went to Fry's Electronics and got what I needed right then. I wouldn't have had the patience to wait for shipping then like I do now. I still have boxes of components I haven't yet opened that I bought 'just in case'.
I so love these news updates, put em at the background when im at work, you guys cover news that would take me hours to read/watch on each piece alone. Cant wait for the undervolts on the Ryzen 7's, i wonder if motherboard manufactureres gonna impliment this into the bios just as auto-OC is baked in now. And wow.. 23:06 they previous announced this announcement, and now to reannounce the announcement of that announcement because it has more things to announce.
I hope the Eco mode content makes the cut! It seems like the most relevant consumer-end information for adressing the heat concerns with the 7000 series. I'm very interested to see how it fares in your tests, how it affects the need for higher-end coolers and thus the value proposition.
I'd love to see the performance and efficiency difference between Eco Mode and a good undervolt. You can typically push a lot less voltage than stock and still be perfectly stable. My 9750HK laptop ran at 80% voltage, and my new 6980HS machine runs at 90% voltage.
I swore off BadEgg, have stuck to my guns, and have not regretted it. It wasn't just the RMA nightmare and their shallow corporate response, it's everything lately. Their customer service has stunk like a sulfur-laden rotten egg for years.
I gave up on Newegg a long time ago. The saddest thing is that they used to be an amazing company before they got bought out. Something something ... live long enough to see yourself become the villain ...
The key mistake people make with companies. Their identity, brand etcetera don't matter, the people running it are really the company. The brand is just a smoke screen. Buy outs are just bait and switch, sometimes it's good, more often it's bad.
NewEgg is the new Frys. I loved Frys at first, but then they started doing things like restocking broken return items, and after a while they lost my trust. Same thing happened with NewEgg. I've made one purchase with them in the last 10 years, and that was just because the part I needed wasn't available anywhere else.
Would like to see a story about Ryzen 7000 processors and Cooler compatibility. Turns out if your cooler replaces the stock AM5 back plate, it isn't compatible.
I really wanted to believe that Newegg would get better since Steve's first confrontation with them months ago, but it just doesn't seem like they are going to shape up. It is unfortunate, I used to love them and use them all the time. I have stopped buying anything from Newegg. I mean they are only hurting themselves.
Steve, I gotta give you props man. I watched you for years, and I remember your channel well before 500 thousand subscribers, and I just saw you are at 1.74 million. That's amazing how far you and your team progressed. I am genuinely happy for your success, and though you do not know me, I remember watching almost every video you have put out, it's good to see your success. Success that was long deserved for years of hard work of reviewing and unbiased opinions. 👍
I wish AIO manufacturers would use automotive grade, waterless coolant in their AIOs. Evans is an excellent brand. Its thermal expansion is less than that of water, prevents corrosion and has a ten year service life in industrial applications and doesn't boil till over 300°F. Yeah, it has a yellowish color but, AIOs have solid hoses, you won't see it.
I recently bought, among other things, an AMD EPYC CPU. It came installed in the chip carrier upside down and in the wrong orientation. Glad I caught that before I bent pins or fried components. I contacted them so they could fix it before another customer had a problem. They clearly didn't care, but they did offer me a $25 discount on my next purchase! I'm totally going to use that the next time I buy a $1K CPU from them! So stoked. I also posted a review so that other customers could be warned -- the review hasn't been posted and seems to have disappeared entirely. That's odd. So yeah, I'm done with them.
I appreciate fractals transparency. I have the torrent and they were swift in fixing that cases issue a year ago. It's alright to make a mistake, it's how you handle it.
I believe that you're wording that incorrectly. I don't believe that it's okay to make any mistake. Because that mistake that you're okay with can cost you your freedom, your life, your job, etc. Artesian Builds made that one mistake that cost the company to go belly up their employees losing their jobs, and customers losing their money. Was that mistake okay?
@@spankbuda7466 in this context, we are talking about a mistake in manufacturing design that was unable to be predicted to someone putting an entire company belly up? Lol what?
@@franknberries7639 Artisan didn't predicted any of what happened either from their mistake(s) that according to you is alright. But since didn't like that Artisan example, was it alright for NZXT or Gigabyte to make their mistakes with their H1 cases and PSU's fire hazards? These manufacturers pay for R&D on their products before releasing their products out to the public to keep issues like this from happening. Do mistakes happen? Of course! Is it alright to make mistakes? No! Manufacturers purposely try and find ways to cut cost when producing their products. These types of manufacturing "mistakes" are avoidable!
@@spankbuda7466 If mistakes are not ok, then I would urge you to delete your account because you've made two comments now that are mistakes. Imagine being so binary, so unable to understand nuance that you are unable to differentiate between R&D/Manufacturing unknowns and the choices of a narcissistic, greedy asshole who ran his company into the ground long before he made a fatal flaw on a stream. Imagine. You also completely missed Franknberries point that its more about how a company responds, not that they made a mistake to begin with. You also really didn't pay attention to the Artesian Builds information because they didn't go under due to 1 mistake. It was a comedy of errors that had started long before and that was the last piece that broke the company. But someone with your ineptitude and inability to understand nuance, that sounds about right. At no point was Frank saying making mistakes ok but rather how you respond to them.
@@spankbuda7466 true, however, if they admit they f-ed up and fix the mistake, then, yeah isn't a huge deal... they try to hunker down on their f-up [artesian/the psu issues], that's when people get pissed.. biggest issue on the psu side, is most actually outsource to an ODM, so they can kind of say "not our fault.", so.. yeah..
@@Kepe Basically most of the time a regular PC build can follow the rule of "If it fits it sits" if the product or cable fits nicely, it's probably meant to go there. If it doesn't and it's loose or wobbly or too big...it doesn't...Power supply ratings are the one place that doesn't hold true...you still have to figure that out, fortunately there are tons of calculators out there for that.
I ordered the 7950x from newegg i got the 7900x and they are refusing the refund and the shipment box is still unopened I ordered the 7950x from amazon i will get it by 02/11/2022
For Ryzen 7000, I know there's IPC gains, but it seems like AMD mostly just made a chip that could handle more watts, which doesn't really interest me. I really want to see how 7000 does against 5000 if they have the latter's TDP ranges for associated classes of chips. I hope that is something that is covered when you do the next Ryzen 7000 review. Like how much is the 7900x really better than the 5900x if both are at 105W TDP?
I remember using Newegg back in the early 2000s after switching over from Tigerdirect for most purchases. It honestly makes me sad to see how far they've fallen.
Did you know the average salary of a recent college graduate is the same today as 1991? Did you know that boomers could pay off their school debt with 3 months worth of wages? And their house in 2 years? Just saying.
I hope they release that pump-block combo for AMD socket (probably AM5) cause thats pretty cool, as either for SFF builds or for a more AIO-style custom loop
When I built my computer years ago with Ryzen 2000 series, I got a CPU motherboard bundle at Memory Express. I saw it was the prior generation MB and I had read some of those needed a BIOS update for Ryzen 2000. I asked the employee about it (as I didn't want to deal with that) and he basically said "we aren't idiots, we wouldn't sell you a bundle of they wouldn't work together".
BINGO! To be a RUclipsr you have to create your own news, or even EXTEND new stories. I can understand this from both sides. I think back to the 2000's when I can remember not many problems to think of. But, no RUclips back then. Did my 9700Pro using floppy drive power connector really have power issues? because of my Q-Tec 550w PSU............haha.. fuck knows, it all worked.
@@gmualum08 At this point after the interview they MUST know that Steve is going over them with a magnifying glass, so I'll put my money on them simply not caring anymore.
When I bought my 3070 back during the craziness I got it via newegg combo where they lovingly bundled it with the infamous exploding PSU which I still have sitting over here as a paper weight in its box. They really don't care, they just want their money.
GN is now at the reach where their voice of reason can bring a company like Fractal to heel like a dog at the first sign of an issue. Wow that’s great that they listen to consumers and respect us enough to be forward, but this wouldn’t ever happen without a powerful consumer focused outlet like GN. Great work everyone involved in making this possible for a better PC industry.
I had a great deal through Newegg recently when GPU prices bottomed out....got an EVGA (i know!!) 3090...for lower than anywhere else online after weeks of searching and waiting. Arrived from America to the UK in 3 days. Free postage. No extra charges. Incredible!
Newegg isn't all bad. They had a thing where if you use zippay (spread out your bill over 4 payments with no fee or interest) you could save 15% up to $100 on select items. I put in a 7950x and put in the code...didn't work. I added one of the select items, put in the code again and it worked. Then I removed the item and kept the 7950x. It worked. So I got my 7950x showing up today for $599 instead of $699.
I really enjoyed this content Steve - it is so nice to have some new material to go over - as it's been kind of stale tech wise lately . I am sure you are thinking like I use to think before I retired . There just aren't enough hours in the day were my thoughts ...
I must say, I'm pretty excited to see what RDNA3 brings! I hope they come with enough streaming processors to compete with Nvidia for the higher res display crowd 🙏. I also hope they don't go insane with their pricing, slots, and power consumption. If they can nail all three, they will clean Nvidia's clock!
intel's already eyeing the entry~midlevel dgpu side with their arc gpu, which should kind of kick AMD in the rear, and definitely kick NV in the rear.. might knock some sense into both of them, pricing-wise, especially NV and their wanting 2k usd for the top-end rtx4k... wasn't that long ago the top-end was around the 300~500 usd mark, now that's relatively bottom~midlevel..
@@niteriderevo9179 except intel really isn't aiming for the lower end competitiveness to 40 series and RDNA3 with alchemist. Their top end card can barely compete with the 3060ti. On the good side it it priced accordingly, and is a good first efford from Intel. But keep in mind that is priced accordingly and performa to the cards that will be last gen soon, not current gen low end.
@@reappermen i was meaning if they go below current-generation amd/nv bottom-end pricing, they could kind of pull the rug from under both and knock sense into them
@@niteriderevo9179 possibly, but somewhat unlikely. Keep in mind there has always been a large market for both used and new previous gen cards that were going a fair deal under current gen prices in any of the last half a dozen or so generations. Those are the cards Intel will really be competing with for direct sales, stuff like a 2070 or 5700xt or similar. Their prices are currently also high, but mainly because of the tail end of the shortages, and they've been dropping fast.
If anybody is tracking the Arctic replacement kit status thing, I had one of the affected coolers and they did get me a replacement kit after submitting the request. It took a bit longer than I expected, but I live... let's say out of the way and the thing did show up, so no worries there. Replacement was as described, although one of the screws taller screws that they send to replace the shorter profile ones required a lot more pressure than the rest. The cooler now works as expected. And yes, there was gunk in the fins and degradation in the gasket despite the cooler being fairly new. It wasn't affecting performance too much, I got maybe 4-5 C back at best, but it would have gotten worse over time, I'm sure.
@@RezzaNL I did contact them on the provided customer service email and they told me the turnaround time was about two weeks and confirmed when they were gonna ship mine. I did not get an automated shipping confirmation, though. They just used ordinary mail, as far as I can tell. I'd definitely recommend poking them. It is possible my thing went in the mail when I asked instead of being on a set delay. They did get back to me immediately when asked, though. And they were really nice about it, too.
after years of not ordering from newegg i bit the bullet and bought ONE set of ram that I needed quickly....package was never delivered and Newegg would never have done anything about it until I complained. Then cancelled the order and they forgot to refund me for over a week and pretended like they had processed it already when I sent in another email. F newegg
Regarding corsairs PSU, that is extremely interesting if their high-end type 4 PSU are rated for 225 or 300W output. Assuming better connectors and thicker adapter cabling (AWG16, or even 14 needed?). That would be useful info for extreme overclocking my 2-connector 3090. :)
I assume you have a founder edition 3090, that uses nvidia's proprietary 12pin connector. Corsair's new cable is the 16 pin (12 for power, 4 for data) PCIe Gen5 cable (aka 12VHPWR). These two connectors most likely aren't compatible with each other.
With the weird AMD heat spreader, do you think we might see 3d cold plates with fingers to increase the contact patch, and do you think that could make any actual difference, seeing how effective delidding was?
I'm not sure if they still do it or not, but Tiger Direct used to literally just give away their overstock. It would be marked down to free for a while, you would just pay shipping if you could use it. They didn't need to make a questionable combo to get rid of oldish hardware. It might be wise for Newegg to do the same at this point; at least the hardware will be going somewhere where it's usable.
The ATX 3 information came from a Jayz 2cents video where he commented that ATX 3.0 power supplies have an additional 12v HVPWR power plug on the side of the cable. The HVPWR plug apparently communicates the power supply's capabilities to the 40XX card and the card can send its power requirement data to the ATX 3.0 supply. An ATX 2.0 power supply could be adapted to fit that, but would not pass the data back and forth between the power supply and video card, which I presume could result in undervolting the card or overstressing the supply (at least the way he put it). ruclips.net/video/K6FiGEAp928/видео.html
Good summary. There wasn’t really any misinformation presented. It seems GamersNexus just hasn’t gotten around to covering this yet as they been focused on all the new launch reviews. Hopefully things settle and they can dig into this with more detail.
I'm on the same boat with Newegg. All of my hardware came from them got my first few builds. I won't even consider them anymore unless is something I literally can't find anywhere else.
Ive been a vintage and new system builder for about 5 years (professionally, much longer personally), Newegg I used later in the game and about 4 years ago found better pricing than ebay and amazon sometimes. Now I just go to Ebay.
My Fractal Designs Lumen 280 AIO did the same thing. When first installed on my I7-11700F in a Fractal Designs Focus G, temps rarely got 10c above ambient even with a slightly less than optimal install. However, I started getting thermal throttling to 800 mHz and CPU temps of 100c after about 6 months. The radiator didn't even warm up, but the hoses sure did. Lucky for me, I was able to find someone local with a LNIB Scythe Fuma 2 for a whopping $25 as I had nothing else handy. 😎 Keep your boxes, all of them! I cannot RMI mine as I lost the box during a recent move.
What an exciting time! I don't remember a product launch cycle being so energized. Gamers Nexus is killing it with fantastic content over the past month or so. As a retired Metrologist with 35 years in the career field I enjoy your in depth testing and look forward to all the cool future projects planned!
@@ShinyPeeko I am inclined to assume the same, but I think it’s still something worth testing. It’s not just the metal, but also the silicon of the CPU and MOBO that are also experiencing heat; I am completely unaware of their characteristics when heated. Perhaps there could be a minuscule, yet significant deformation that allows the mounting points of the MOBO the bend slightly upward, resulting in less pressure holding the cooler down.
Steve, thank you for redirecting the offrtacking about newegg deals to mountains. I would be devastated to have youtube suggest me to watch videos about water mountains again.
I am in the same boat. I spent over $7,000 on my PC last year, not a dollar of it at Newegg, when I used to make roughly 90% of my PC purchases with them. I don't know whether they care or not, but I think they should.
Exactly why i have not spent a dime with Newegg in years now. I will continue my boycott of such shady subpar services and products. Thank you Steve. you're a literal life and money saver in this pc world
LOL, I was an early adopter of the Lumen. It rattled from day one and my temps were 60+, but reopening my new PC to troubleshoot the aio made me anxious. It failed just last week, switched to a noctua heatsink and not looking back. Kinda mad at myself for tolerating the throttling for an entire year.
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also if you want to return a combo product you have to return both products per there combo policy
That Z790 Classified has my name all over it!
nice try bot! cant get me this time 😤
Yea more info i found out later on from my situation in the comments that, the cpu i got had a bent pin, but how could they repackage with the intel label sticker? you have to break from the factory? it was sealed closed and i found out i had the very "1st", distributed production version of the 12900k, i thought that was neat, says 001 on the back am i right to assume that? I can provide video/img if need be, just sharing the experience.
I bent the one pin back to "perfection", with a pin (nvr did it b4) took an actual magnified glass to a phone camera, to be sure i got it and did a 360 and couldn't spot it at all, think i got an video/img of that also. All cores are loaded and all that jazz.
The products have been find, but idk whats going on with the so called RTX on the gfx, what tests do i need to run, besides gaming, the pc is nvr nor will ever be online so can't really do that stuff atm. I do video/rendering/three dimensional(game character design) works. I do use an engine that utilizes the RTX options but it just seems very weird and like it is not really doing anything, its like software or hardware locked, i did tests before this with the 12 year old gfx card i had and it does more than this, sh!t does...
edit oh yea and RTX or raytracing in real time has been out for over 10 years from just looking for videos on the subject on the tube... like renderings in real time they aren't really doing anything new which tells me they are forcefully hardware/software locking these.."advances".
I'm looking forward to seeing your overclock stream with AMD. It should be pretty fun.
Newegg and userbenchmark should team up
Dumb and dumber, the classic combo
According to Userbenchmark, AMD= Advanced Marketing Devices
im pretty new to this- whats wrong with userbenchmark?
@@tofuteh2348 They fake all their benchmakrs because its run by a 12 year old who thinks simping for a company is a personality trait
@@tofuteh2348 Owner if userbenchmark is some deranged intel fanboy who goes on rants about AMD and changes how userbenchmark scoring works whenever an AMD processor beats intel processors. Like, the dude is REALLY unhinged lol.
Edit: Great video to watch on the subject is "Userbenchmark - the April Fools that never ends" from 2kliksphilip. Does a great job of showcasing the whole situation. It's sad really, UserBenchMark could have been a great source of data for benchmarking if it wasn't owned by some deranged person lol.
Classic Newegg, I'm not even remotely surprised
Tbh neither am I. After dealing with them over the years for both work and play, they've really fallen...
at what point do they become a brand risk?
@@TheHighborn already past that point imo
@@TheHighborn About a month before the last Newegg incident, reported by GN, my business swore them off. We've had nothing but trouble for, at least, 4 years.
@@Zuriki09 my indirect question is that when will vendors sell at newegg.
Well Steve, you gave them a chance to redeem themselves. Sad that it’s going this way, but we the consumer appreciate your coverage. Never stop holding them accountable!!
Hell yeah they were like were trying to fix the problems...7 months later...same old shit tbh I don't even bother buying anything at newegg anymore and I was a customer for more then a decade.
I am sure it was an oversight. AM4 is selling better then AM5 right now.
Simple solution, delete your account with them, put their domain(s) on a block list. Tell all your friends and family to stay away.
I drive 200 km to the next major city cause no one keeps anything in stock here. and i'm a UPS driver. I'd rather support brick and mortar.
I was expecting a "Thanks Steve" by that Intel employee after the ironic "good job Newegg".
That never gets old lol
I jadore that meme.
Calling out Newegg on their BS is an instant thumbs up from me.
cheap ram that won't work with your new main board why so we can sell this shit off that why🤣🤣
I love that companies are reaching out to GN ahead of time for stuff like this
and such a simplified way of just contacting them via the website directly
Once the new owners took over, New Egg went downhill. That was when we saw the third party Marketplace added, which is basically scam central.
Depends. Some of the 3rd parties are reputable places
Gotta love racist revisionism. You know that both the "new owners" and the founders were all chinese right? Also, as addressed in jay's video on newegg, they have been doing this (denying refunds, ripping off customers) since the early 2000s, long before they were bought in 2016.
@@anivicuno9473 the owners after egghead was turned into newegg were significantly better than the current owners business practices are. I remeber egghead, and why it burned.
@@anivicuno9473 This isn't Twitter buddy. Go reeee over there.
Fk Winnie the Poo and all his scammer cronies.
@@anivicuno9473 What does race have to do with this? The OP is simply bringing up how they perceive the business under new management to be less trustworthy. Nowhere do they mention it's because of the nationality of the new owners. Shut up please.
i love that the tech tubers have gotten to the point where manufacturers reach out to them to give us both good and bad news, appreciate your work makes part buying so much less stressful
It's almost like the executives from New egg only met with you as damage control, and they don't actually care
Yep!!
This. They really don't care. It's infuriating tbh.
Newegg continues to top its scum tactics and it's honestly impressive.
I gotta tip my hat at this point. They are doubling down.
ooh, RMA centipede. I quite like it. Make it trending please. Thank you oh holiest of techtubers. we truly are not worthy.
Yea I haven't shopped at Newegg for about 3 years, they used to be a great company to do business with.
I think we should be expecting memory prices to crash in the coming weeks and months. Between Newegg trying to dump excess inventory, Microcenter literally giving away DDR5 memory with an AM5 build, and Micron cutting capital investment by 50% due to deteriorating demand, all signs point to a massive glut of supply coming in the immediate future.
Thank god am I right. Save some money.
You think ddr5 will be at 8000 in 1 year?
The memory they are giving away is like Walmart brand cheapo DDR5. I wouldn't put it in the same room as my system let alone installed in it.
There is also the downturn in the PC market generally to consider. Cheap DDR5 atm is more than likely bad DDR5 memory as mentioned above.DDR5 will remain significantly higher than DDR4 for the time being, they will always be able to sell DDR5, demand for DDR4 will slowly start to dry up and that is when DDr4 will become more expensive. Has happened with every version of memory to date.
Man. My first box build was all NewEgg purchased. Scary how bad they have gotten.
I will very much be enjoying that! Too bad I won't need an AM5 build (did one last year). But that'll be good to know if hopping on to Gen 2 of AM5
Newegg, the epitome of “it’s the thought that counts”.
😂
More like a brain fart
@@nhojlagap6222 brain fart implies a mistake...
This is like the 4th or 5th notable fuck up that's beyond just a typo or small oopsie. This is purposful targeting.
@@siege2928 then it would be better to say "it's our shit that counts". Since their thought process is worst than a brain fart and i can't think of a better word for brain fart.
@@nhojlagap6222 lol that's fair
Lisa Su mentioned that RDNA3 would be multi-chip about a month ago during the GPU portion of the Ryzen 7000 announcement. At 31:00 she stated "by combining our most advanced gaming architecture with 5nm chiplets, RDNA3 GPUs..."
I must say, I'm pretty excited to see what RDNA3 brings! I hope they come with enough streaming processors to compete with Nvidia for the higher res display crowd 🙏. I also hope they don't go insane with their pricing, slots, and power consumption. If they can nail all three, they will clean Nvidia's clock!
I was the one who posted about the Newegg bundle on Reddit a few days ago. Needless to say the story blew up. I feel honored GN is covering it lol. Back to you Steve!
Thanks for contributing. Maybe there should be a badge or a free modmat for that! 🙂
@@David_Crayford Haha I wouldn’t say no to a mod-mat but it’s ok. Tbh I’d just hate to see anyone order bundles like this fast without realizing they’re incompatible and have their return rejected by the company. This is a very deceptive practice and needs to be called out so I’m glad Steve covered it.
"Thanks Torshee!"
Lol you really think no one else could see it? Kind of arrogant.
@@offspringfan89 tbh your joke flew over my head the first time I read this but I finally got it after watching a few more Intel videos on this channel 😂 hilarious
I genuinely burst out laughing at the Gigabyte PSU being referred to as an IED.
I actually did a spit-take when Steve said that
@n n IED as in “intentional explosive device” in this instance lol
I foresee Gigabyte coming out with a new marketing term feature for this news psus: Improvised electronic device technology
Lol I was about to write the same thing.
@n n It doesn't matter if it came from the factory like that. They're still improvised explosives devices because they're meant to be power supplies, but instead of being power supplies, they explode.
Note @5:30:
I recently had a friend who needed an upgrade of their cpu/MB.
I was surprised to find that micro center actually sells their cpu/MB combos on amazon, as can be seen. It's basically the same deal as just going to the store, except you can get it shipped for free from amazon.
So Newegg is in deep trouble lol...
Micro center is another of those stores I've never used.
@@Watchfulfox Your loss.
@@Watchfulfox I second that. If you don’t have a micro center near you, then I do feel sorry for you.
It’s a brick and mortar store with employees that actually understand some of the hardware they’re selling.
At minimum, they’d know to put ddr5 in an am5 build lol.
@@FuburLuck what did I lose exactly?
@@macattack123mattc3 so it was like Fry's then. Same thing.
Really glad to see Fractal and Arctic to owning up to their mistakes and offering solutions to fix the issue and relaying information to good media outlets like GN.
After Newegg knowingly threw their customers under the bus due to shady tax schemes, I quit them cold turkey.
I dont even care that it got worked out where the consumers (in my state at least) were NOT on the hook, just knowing that Newegg would treat its customers with such disregard put me off them completely.
I'm not familiar with this story? What shady tax scheme? I'm not surprised though lol
@@seegee9 I also haven't heard this
@@jamesconley6919 from what I gathered on Google it sounds like people were hit with tax bills well after purchasing from new egg. Not sure if this is the same one he's talking about
Where do you buy from, instead?
@@seegee9 There is no shady tax scheme from Newegg. People were committing tax fraud by not reporting their untaxed/out of state purchases on their tax returns like they're supposed to, and then it caught up with them and the states came back looking for the unpaid taxes. People blamed Newegg for this instead of taking personal responsibility for their own tax fraud.
There's a lot of problems with Newegg, but taxes are not one of them.
I really appreciate Fractal's willingness to get ahead of and make it easy for people to get problems fixed. I wish other companies knew that customer service and transparency was a value add.
Thanks to this video I just created my support ticket with fractal for my lumen cooler. Never would have known about this issue if it wasn't for the great work you guys do keeping people up to date on issues like these. Keep up the great work, its appreciated greatly.
Well said and agreed. I am now in receipt of a replacement gasket for my Arctic Liquid Freezer...which I would not have ordered, or likely even known about, had I not been a subscriber and regular viewer.
Newegg embodies the saying, ‘You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain…’.
Jesus for real. I remember building my first rig back in '08, all my parts came from Newegg. As far as I can tell, they were a decent enough company to work with then. That certainly doesn't seem to be the case anymore.
Was it a "hero" at some point? I'm not in Newegg's market area.
@@sirius4k Not really. They were just a good store to buy computer components from.
But the point is more like if they had gone out of business instead of becoming what they are now, they'd be remembered fondly.
That’s nvidia remember
@@zackakai5173 I never bought anything from me egg, back in the beginning I just went to Fry's Electronics and got what I needed right then. I wouldn't have had the patience to wait for shipping then like I do now. I still have boxes of components I haven't yet opened that I bought 'just in case'.
I so love these news updates, put em at the background when im at work, you guys cover news that would take me hours to read/watch on each piece alone. Cant wait for the undervolts on the Ryzen 7's, i wonder if motherboard manufactureres gonna impliment this into the bios just as auto-OC is baked in now.
And wow.. 23:06 they previous announced this announcement, and now to reannounce the announcement of that announcement because it has more things to announce.
Amazon uses algorithms to figure out what products to bundle, to often hilarious results, but rarely screws up compatibility so badly.
I hope the Eco mode content makes the cut! It seems like the most relevant consumer-end information for adressing the heat concerns with the 7000 series. I'm very interested to see how it fares in your tests, how it affects the need for higher-end coolers and thus the value proposition.
I'd love to see the performance and efficiency difference between Eco Mode and a good undervolt. You can typically push a lot less voltage than stock and still be perfectly stable. My 9750HK laptop ran at 80% voltage, and my new 6980HS machine runs at 90% voltage.
I swore off BadEgg, have stuck to my guns, and have not regretted it. It wasn't just the RMA nightmare and their shallow corporate response, it's everything lately. Their customer service has stunk like a sulfur-laden rotten egg for years.
I gave up on Newegg a long time ago. The saddest thing is that they used to be an amazing company before they got bought out. Something something ... live long enough to see yourself become the villain ...
The key mistake people make with companies. Their identity, brand etcetera don't matter, the people running it are really the company. The brand is just a smoke screen. Buy outs are just bait and switch, sometimes it's good, more often it's bad.
Thanks, Steve! Your hardware news videos are awesome!!
NewEgg is the new Frys. I loved Frys at first, but then they started doing things like restocking broken return items, and after a while they lost my trust. Same thing happened with NewEgg. I've made one purchase with them in the last 10 years, and that was just because the part I needed wasn't available anywhere else.
Would like to see a story about Ryzen 7000 processors and Cooler compatibility. Turns out if your cooler replaces the stock AM5 back plate, it isn't compatible.
I really wanted to believe that Newegg would get better since Steve's first confrontation with them months ago, but it just doesn't seem like they are going to shape up. It is unfortunate, I used to love them and use them all the time. I have stopped buying anything from Newegg. I mean they are only hurting themselves.
Steve, I gotta give you props man. I watched you for years, and I remember your channel well before 500 thousand subscribers, and I just saw you are at 1.74 million.
That's amazing how far you and your team progressed. I am genuinely happy for your success, and though you do not know me, I remember watching almost every video you have put out, it's good to see your success.
Success that was long deserved for years of hard work of reviewing and unbiased opinions. 👍
Reviews can be unbiased but opinions by their very mature are biased. Opinions can be and often are unsolicited.
I wish AIO manufacturers would use automotive grade, waterless coolant in their AIOs. Evans is an excellent brand. Its thermal expansion is less than that of water, prevents corrosion and has a ten year service life in industrial applications and doesn't boil till over 300°F. Yeah, it has a yellowish color but, AIOs have solid hoses, you won't see it.
Automotive coolant isn't waterless, in fact, it doesn't even work without water in it. You can use distilled water to avoid conductivity issues.
@@Watchfulfox Research Evans _WATERLESS_ coolant, then get back to me.
I recently bought, among other things, an AMD EPYC CPU. It came installed in the chip carrier upside down and in the wrong orientation. Glad I caught that before I bent pins or fried components. I contacted them so they could fix it before another customer had a problem. They clearly didn't care, but they did offer me a $25 discount on my next purchase! I'm totally going to use that the next time I buy a $1K CPU from them! So stoked.
I also posted a review so that other customers could be warned -- the review hasn't been posted and seems to have disappeared entirely. That's odd.
So yeah, I'm done with them.
Nice job calling out Newegg, sadly they're more and more shady each day.
I appreciate fractals transparency. I have the torrent and they were swift in fixing that cases issue a year ago. It's alright to make a mistake, it's how you handle it.
I believe that you're wording that incorrectly. I don't believe that it's okay to make any mistake. Because that mistake that you're okay with can cost you your freedom, your life, your job, etc. Artesian Builds made that one mistake that cost the company to go belly up their employees losing their jobs, and customers losing their money. Was that mistake okay?
@@spankbuda7466 in this context, we are talking about a mistake in manufacturing design that was unable to be predicted to someone putting an entire company belly up? Lol what?
@@franknberries7639 Artisan didn't predicted any of what happened either from their mistake(s) that according to you is alright. But since didn't like that Artisan example, was it alright for NZXT or Gigabyte to make their mistakes with their H1 cases and PSU's fire hazards? These manufacturers pay for R&D on their products before releasing their products out to the public to keep issues like this from happening. Do mistakes happen? Of course! Is it alright to make mistakes? No! Manufacturers purposely try and find ways to cut cost when producing their products. These types of manufacturing "mistakes" are avoidable!
@@spankbuda7466 If mistakes are not ok, then I would urge you to delete your account because you've made two comments now that are mistakes.
Imagine being so binary, so unable to understand nuance that you are unable to differentiate between R&D/Manufacturing unknowns and the choices of a narcissistic, greedy asshole who ran his company into the ground long before he made a fatal flaw on a stream. Imagine.
You also completely missed Franknberries point that its more about how a company responds, not that they made a mistake to begin with. You also really didn't pay attention to the Artesian Builds information because they didn't go under due to 1 mistake. It was a comedy of errors that had started long before and that was the last piece that broke the company.
But someone with your ineptitude and inability to understand nuance, that sounds about right. At no point was Frank saying making mistakes ok but rather how you respond to them.
@@spankbuda7466 true, however, if they admit they f-ed up and fix the mistake, then, yeah isn't a huge deal... they try to hunker down on their f-up [artesian/the psu issues], that's when people get pissed.. biggest issue on the psu side, is most actually outsource to an ODM, so they can kind of say "not our fault.", so.. yeah..
I love how companies come to Steve now to admit their sins; he's a Tech Priest.
Newegg really put the quote "PC building is just like building Legos" into heart.
Heh well yeah, PC building IS like building Legos, but Newegg is selling you a bundle of Duplo and Technic pieces.
@@Kepe Basically most of the time a regular PC build can follow the rule of "If it fits it sits" if the product or cable fits nicely, it's probably meant to go there. If it doesn't and it's loose or wobbly or too big...it doesn't...Power supply ratings are the one place that doesn't hold true...you still have to figure that out, fortunately there are tons of calculators out there for that.
Used to work in a datacenter and the corning gold fiber connectors were only rated for 12 connections. Never had one fail, but in theory it could?
Looking forward to the stream with the AMD XOC guys. I'm all for the chance to learn something.
I really like that Newegg is providing a diversity of stuff that doesn't work together. I think there's a lesson we all can learn from this. 😉
Next week the offer will be corrected to include an Intel i7 Devil's Canyon CPU.
Soon they will be signing a deal with recycling centers to sell you re-sell e-waste bundles. Why ship em to India when they can sell em to Americans.
I ordered the 7950x from newegg i got the 7900x and they are refusing the refund and the shipment box is still unopened
I ordered the 7950x from amazon i will get it by 02/11/2022
Damn.. hope you can get your money back, i guess you wont ever buy anything from them
Dispute with your credit card company and show them the invoice. Newegg starts backpedaling hard when financial institutions get involved.
For Ryzen 7000, I know there's IPC gains, but it seems like AMD mostly just made a chip that could handle more watts, which doesn't really interest me. I really want to see how 7000 does against 5000 if they have the latter's TDP ranges for associated classes of chips. I hope that is something that is covered when you do the next Ryzen 7000 review. Like how much is the 7900x really better than the 5900x if both are at 105W TDP?
I remember using Newegg back in the early 2000s after switching over from Tigerdirect for most purchases. It honestly makes me sad to see how far they've fallen.
nvidia "1600$ is the new norm"
amd "95*Celsius is the new norm"
sony"70$ is the new norm"
me "i guess i can't afford any of this is my new norm"
Prices seem pretty accurate given the economy. Everything goes up in price...you gonna stop buying food or gas because it goes up in price?
@@drunkhusband6257 well, to be fair, when prices go up, your pay should also go up as well.
@@bear5016 Pay has gone up at almost all places, where have you been out of a job or something?
@@drunkhusband6257 Why are you making excuses for a crashing economy and price gouging?
Did you know the average salary of a recent college graduate is the same today as 1991?
Did you know that boomers could pay off their school debt with 3 months worth of wages? And their house in 2 years?
Just saying.
I hope they release that pump-block combo for AMD socket (probably AM5) cause thats pretty cool, as either for SFF builds or for a more AIO-style custom loop
There was a time when Newegg combos were actually good deals.
There was a time when NCIX had good deals too. Alas, nothing is forever.
Thanks Steve!
But a good way to get the week under way with HW News featuring TechJesus and GN. Love it!
When I built my computer years ago with Ryzen 2000 series, I got a CPU motherboard bundle at Memory Express.
I saw it was the prior generation MB and I had read some of those needed a BIOS update for Ryzen 2000. I asked the employee about it (as I didn't want to deal with that) and he basically said "we aren't idiots, we wouldn't sell you a bundle of they wouldn't work together".
Something tells me that employee has left the company
The PSU confusion with the 12 pin I feel was seriously egged on by JayztwoCents
I don't know why it is confusing, you can literally just use an adapter
BINGO! To be a RUclipsr you have to create your own news, or even EXTEND new stories. I can understand this from both sides. I think back to the 2000's when I can remember not many problems to think of. But, no RUclips back then. Did my 9700Pro using floppy drive power connector really have power issues? because of my Q-Tec 550w PSU............haha.. fuck knows, it all worked.
Good job on Neweggs part giving Gamers Nexus free content.
I don't get it. They know that Steve is watching them closely. So why do this kind of stuff.
@@KingLarbear they're either that careless or they just don't care.
@@gmualum08 At this point after the interview they MUST know that Steve is going over them with a magnifying glass, so I'll put my money on them simply not caring anymore.
Thanks for the heads up about the Artic cooler. Just ordered my replacement gasket.
That was the smoothest merch plug I have ever heard. Well done good sir.
I'd love to see EVGA get into AM5 motherboards.
Or any other products I don't buy. 😛
When I bought my 3070 back during the craziness I got it via newegg combo where they lovingly bundled it with the infamous exploding PSU which I still have sitting over here as a paper weight in its box.
They really don't care, they just want their money.
As a collector of inert munitions perhaps I should add one of these PSUs to the shelf.
GN is now at the reach where their voice of reason can bring a company like Fractal to heel like a dog at the first sign of an issue. Wow that’s great that they listen to consumers and respect us enough to be forward, but this wouldn’t ever happen without a powerful consumer focused outlet like GN. Great work everyone involved in making this possible for a better PC industry.
I had a great deal through Newegg recently when GPU prices bottomed out....got an EVGA (i know!!) 3090...for lower than anywhere else online after weeks of searching and waiting. Arrived from America to the UK in 3 days. Free postage. No extra charges. Incredible!
I got something for you....
I want a professional gaming circuit where gamers have to pair with an overclocker and play their match with nothing but liquid nitrogen cooling
that's actually very interesting
Newegg isn't all bad. They had a thing where if you use zippay (spread out your bill over 4 payments with no fee or interest) you could save 15% up to $100 on select items. I put in a 7950x and put in the code...didn't work. I added one of the select items, put in the code again and it worked. Then I removed the item and kept the 7950x. It worked. So I got my 7950x showing up today for $599 instead of $699.
🤣
That discount would have caused me to buy the 7950x, I just tried and it ended two days ago :(
03:01 it's a genius move, imagine doing a combo with incompatible parts
Next step ITX cases added in with the ATX motherboards for the 3 step impossible build challenge
@@alexmills1329 you never heard of cuting a part of the case and having extra cooling for the external GPU on the semi external motherboard ?
I really enjoyed this content Steve - it is so nice to have some new material to go over - as it's been kind of stale tech wise lately . I am sure you are thinking like I use to think before I retired . There just aren't enough hours in the day were my thoughts ...
I must say, I'm pretty excited to see what RDNA3 brings! I hope they come with enough streaming processors to compete with Nvidia for the higher res display crowd 🙏. I also hope they don't go insane with their pricing, slots, and power consumption. If they can nail all three, they will clean Nvidia's clock!
intel's already eyeing the entry~midlevel dgpu side with their arc gpu, which should kind of kick AMD in the rear, and definitely kick NV in the rear.. might knock some sense into both of them, pricing-wise, especially NV and their wanting 2k usd for the top-end rtx4k... wasn't that long ago the top-end was around the 300~500 usd mark, now that's relatively bottom~midlevel..
@@niteriderevo9179 except intel really isn't aiming for the lower end competitiveness to 40 series and RDNA3 with alchemist. Their top end card can barely compete with the 3060ti.
On the good side it it priced accordingly, and is a good first efford from Intel. But keep in mind that is priced accordingly and performa to the cards that will be last gen soon, not current gen low end.
@@reappermen i was meaning if they go below current-generation amd/nv bottom-end pricing, they could kind of pull the rug from under both and knock sense into them
@@niteriderevo9179 possibly, but somewhat unlikely. Keep in mind there has always been a large market for both used and new previous gen cards that were going a fair deal under current gen prices in any of the last half a dozen or so generations.
Those are the cards Intel will really be competing with for direct sales, stuff like a 2070 or 5700xt or similar. Their prices are currently also high, but mainly because of the tail end of the shortages, and they've been dropping fast.
Getting a nice motherboard and memory AND 15 bucks off - better deal than LTT lifetime warranty bacpack.
*Very LIMITED warranty backpack
That line where they call you a "media partner"?
Beautiful.
If anybody is tracking the Arctic replacement kit status thing, I had one of the affected coolers and they did get me a replacement kit after submitting the request. It took a bit longer than I expected, but I live... let's say out of the way and the thing did show up, so no worries there. Replacement was as described, although one of the screws taller screws that they send to replace the shorter profile ones required a lot more pressure than the rest. The cooler now works as expected. And yes, there was gunk in the fins and degradation in the gasket despite the cooler being fairly new. It wasn't affecting performance too much, I got maybe 4-5 C back at best, but it would have gotten worse over time, I'm sure.
I am still waiting for mine, It has been like a month. Did you receive an email when they send it? Maybe I should contact with em. :/
@@RezzaNL mine took just over a month. Came yesterday. Ordered aug30.
@@RezzaNL I did contact them on the provided customer service email and they told me the turnaround time was about two weeks and confirmed when they were gonna ship mine. I did not get an automated shipping confirmation, though. They just used ordinary mail, as far as I can tell.
I'd definitely recommend poking them. It is possible my thing went in the mail when I asked instead of being on a set delay.
They did get back to me immediately when asked, though. And they were really nice about it, too.
Well at least these combos aren't exploding, baby steps I guess.
after years of not ordering from newegg i bit the bullet and bought ONE set of ram that I needed quickly....package was never delivered and Newegg would never have done anything about it until I complained. Then cancelled the order and they forgot to refund me for over a week and pretended like they had processed it already when I sent in another email. F newegg
I've literally never had that problem, and I've ordered a lot from newegg
@@drunkhusband6257 congratulations, im truly proud of your order receiving capabilities
You can do it man, we chillin' till your ready
Seems like everything that was talked about with Newegg went in one ear and out the other, and just went through the motions of actually listening
Newegg was also (maybe still) bundling 500W bronze PSUs with RTX cards (and not the low end cards). Seems like they like to mess with new builders.
Newegg is actual scum central my dudes, avoid at all costs
0:53 Ooh, that sounds fun!
That V12 Alpine amp in that car is ancient. Glad to see it still being used and working.
Regarding corsairs PSU, that is extremely interesting if their high-end type 4 PSU are rated for 225 or 300W output. Assuming better connectors and thicker adapter cabling (AWG16, or even 14 needed?). That would be useful info for extreme overclocking my 2-connector 3090. :)
That's going to be dangerous
I assume you have a founder edition 3090, that uses nvidia's proprietary 12pin connector. Corsair's new cable is the 16 pin (12 for power, 4 for data) PCIe Gen5 cable (aka 12VHPWR). These two connectors most likely aren't compatible with each other.
With the weird AMD heat spreader, do you think we might see 3d cold plates with fingers to increase the contact patch, and do you think that could make any actual difference, seeing how effective delidding was?
The edges of the IHS is so far from the die it won't have a measurable effect
No and no.
NewEgg Cleaning Combo; Get you house extra clean with this SuperCombo: 1 32 oz bottle Bleach 1 20 gallon mop/bucket pack 1 64oz bottle Amonia
brings back the memory of the athlon xp cracking dies and lead pencils unlocks.
I'm not sure if they still do it or not, but Tiger Direct used to literally just give away their overstock. It would be marked down to free for a while, you would just pay shipping if you could use it. They didn't need to make a questionable combo to get rid of oldish hardware.
It might be wise for Newegg to do the same at this point; at least the hardware will be going somewhere where it's usable.
Is TigerDirect even around still? I haven't looked at their site in YEARS after they were merged with Circuit City.
@@RichWhiteUM The site still exists. It's not a bad place to check if you're bargain hunting.
The ATX 3 information came from a Jayz 2cents video where he commented that ATX 3.0 power supplies have an additional 12v HVPWR power plug on the side of the cable. The HVPWR plug apparently communicates the power supply's capabilities to the 40XX card and the card can send its power requirement data to the ATX 3.0 supply. An ATX 2.0 power supply could be adapted to fit that, but would not pass the data back and forth between the power supply and video card, which I presume could result in undervolting the card or overstressing the supply (at least the way he put it). ruclips.net/video/K6FiGEAp928/видео.html
Good summary. There wasn’t really any misinformation presented. It seems GamersNexus just hasn’t gotten around to covering this yet as they been focused on all the new launch reviews. Hopefully things settle and they can dig into this with more detail.
Except this was all proven incorrect by corsair rep.
@@ibvlik3637 Video link plz? I'd like to see!
I'm on the same boat with Newegg. All of my hardware came from them got my first few builds. I won't even consider them anymore unless is something I literally can't find anywhere else.
Ive been a vintage and new system builder for about 5 years (professionally, much longer personally), Newegg I used later in the game and about 4 years ago found better pricing than ebay and amazon sometimes. Now I just go to Ebay.
I see Newegg I click
Iv been looking at newegg every day their prices adjust the fastest
I mean newegg is just the butt of all the jokes by this point. Buy from anywhere else anybody?
Nah, I'll keep buying from newegg never had issues and they have fast shipping.
@@drunkhusband6257 Ok friend, please be careful and don't buy their scam products. Good day
My Fractal Designs Lumen 280 AIO did the same thing. When first installed on my I7-11700F in a Fractal Designs Focus G, temps rarely got 10c above ambient even with a slightly less than optimal install. However, I started getting thermal throttling to 800 mHz and CPU temps of 100c after about 6 months. The radiator didn't even warm up, but the hoses sure did.
Lucky for me, I was able to find someone local with a LNIB Scythe Fuma 2 for a whopping $25 as I had nothing else handy. 😎
Keep your boxes, all of them! I cannot RMI mine as I lost the box during a recent move.
What an exciting time! I don't remember a product launch cycle being so energized. Gamers Nexus is killing it with fantastic content over the past month or so. As a retired Metrologist with 35 years in the career field I enjoy your in depth testing and look forward to all the cool future projects planned!
Does your pressure test work while hot or cold? I’m curious if the heat from a CPU being on will make any difference in its relative flatness.
I'd imagine since the heatspreaders are uniform metal, they shouldn't deform at all, especially at
@@ShinyPeeko I am inclined to assume the same, but I think it’s still something worth testing. It’s not just the metal, but also the silicon of the CPU and MOBO that are also experiencing heat; I am completely unaware of their characteristics when heated. Perhaps there could be a minuscule, yet significant deformation that allows the mounting points of the MOBO the bend slightly upward, resulting in less pressure holding the cooler down.
Newegg died 3 scams ago.
My arctic was 6 months old and it had to be repaired. I purchased from Amazon. I fixed it myself. They sent the kit.
Got halfway through the AIO issue before suddenly realising that's the one I have! Need to rewatch to see what I need to do
Steve, thank you for redirecting the offrtacking about newegg deals to mountains. I would be devastated to have youtube suggest me to watch videos about water mountains again.
I remember the early Newegg. I loved that place.
You mentioned LN2 and I realized I miss the LN2 tank going off randomly in the background.
I am in the same boat. I spent over $7,000 on my PC last year, not a dollar of it at Newegg, when I used to make roughly 90% of my PC purchases with them. I don't know whether they care or not, but I think they should.
Exactly why i have not spent a dime with Newegg in years now. I will continue my boycott of such shady subpar services and products. Thank you Steve. you're a literal life and money saver in this pc world
In this day and age its good to see someone like Steve (THEPCGOD) KEEPING IT HONEST AND REAL PLUS VERIFIABLE!
der8auer is literally a star trek character
I remember when the only place I trusted to order parts was Newegg. Thanks to this channel I will never use Newegg again.
tht was a close one, Newegg almost got me thinking they were the slightest bit responsible w their robotic coporate meeting
“Save the date: November turd”
Thanks RUclips captions 😂
LOL, I was an early adopter of the Lumen. It rattled from day one and my temps were 60+, but reopening my new PC to troubleshoot the aio made me anxious. It failed just last week, switched to a noctua heatsink and not looking back. Kinda mad at myself for tolerating the throttling for an entire year.
I love the timestamp overlay mechanism. GG