Haviv Rettig Gur: The Gathering Storm | FP in Israel
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- Опубликовано: 20 мар 2024
- Bari Weiss sits down with the journalist Haviv Rettig Gur.
Haviv is one of the smartest and most thoughtful writers on Israel and the Middle East. He and Bari discussed Israel's uncertain future, what it means for Palestinians, how the current war reflects wider battles in Islam, and why Americans must realize they are living "inside" of history.
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This should be required listening. He is one of the most knowledgeable, insightful and reasonable voices I’ve ever heard on these issues.
Agreed, everyone who comments on Israel should have to listen to Haviv and Dan
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Truth hurts, right! Doent fit your narrative!
@@NeverAgain316 yes ..starving children and trying to justify this
@ruthgallagher9584 try look the WIDE information engine instead of leaping up AL-Jeeza filth and the talk!
This is an astonishing conversation. Thanks Bari and Haviv. Such clarity.
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What clarity? Today on WashingtonPost 👉 “Israel announces largest West Bank land seizure since 1993 during Blinken visit”
By Cate Brown.
March 22, 2024 at 7:06 p.m. EDT.
“Palestinians have little ability to stop the land transfers. After the 1967 war, Israel issued a military order that stopped the process of land registration across the West Bank. Now families lack the paperwork to prove that they have private ownership over their land. And tax records, the only other evidence of West Bank property rights, are not accepted by Israeli authorities.”
@@hus390 You clearly have never heard of the Hezbollah.
@@ruthgallagher9584 yes it is!
@@hus390 Does this diminish the quality of the conversation or are you just rooting for a team?
I religiously read the New York Times for 25 years. Interestingly I stoped reading it at about the same time Bari Weiss quit and thank God she did because she has become so much better of a journalist and a human being because she left. Another incredible interview. Thanks for introducing me to Haviv Gur. He is incredible. So much insight.
You will then enjoy more of Haviv Retig Gur if you listen to Dan Senor's podcast "Call Me Back". Haviv is a regular guest.
@sputnik94115 love that podcast! Could listen to him for hours his knowledge is so expansive
you read the NYT religiously for 25 years even though their vilification of Israel and Jews in general that didnt disturb you? I guess now you learned what we religious Jews knew that the world doesnt care what kind of Jew you are only that you are a JEW and you should be proud. There is no other Nation like ours.
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@@eligaerman6827Senor hosted a known liar about the rape of October 7. He just to love to perpetuate his deluded worldviews. … Today on WashingtonPost 👉 “Israel announces largest West Bank land seizure since 1993 during Blinken visit”
By Cate Brown.
March 22, 2024 at 7:06 p.m. EDT.
“Palestinians have little ability to stop the land transfers. After the 1967 war, Israel issued a military order that stopped the process of land registration across the West Bank. Now families lack the paperwork to prove that they have private ownership over their land. And tax records, the only other evidence of West Bank property rights, are not accepted by Israeli authorities.”
Thanks Bari & Haviv,
As a US conservative Christian & 8 time veteran of the recent Middle East wars, I listened intently to Haviv’s thoughts & comments on the current situation. Haviv’s thoughts on Iran’s & the Ummah’s motivations to establish Islam’s supremacy is a perspective I had not thought of.
I’ve seen Taliban & ISIS use Muslim women & children as human shields. I’ve heard of them using mosques & “holy sites” for military operations.
FYI. MBS has been accused of being an apostate….
Read the Q, the Hadiths, The Sira of “Mo” & you find the where the hatred / Jew hatred becomes clear. The “People of the Book”.
“First they come for the Saturday people. Then they come for the Sunday people.”
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יהודים חיו בארץ ישראל לפני הערבים ולפני ההתיישבות הציונית.
מרבית הערבים הם צאצאים של מהגרים מהעת החדשה.
חפשו בגוגל: "הגירת הערבים לארץ ישראל".
כדאי לקרוא את הספר 'מתי ואיך היגרו הערבים והמוסלמים לארץ ישראל' מאת הד"ר רבקה שפק־ליסק.
יהודים חיו בארצות להן קוראים היום עיראק וסוריה קודם לערבים! יהודים חיו שם מתקופת הבבלים עד שגורשו משם בסוף שנות ה 40.
יהודים חיו במצריים מאז השלטון היווני, קודם לערבים עד שגורשו משם באמצע המאה העשרים. ערבים חיו בחצי האי ערב וכבשו את המזרח התיכון לאחר עליית האיסלם.
יהודים חיו בארץ ישראל קודם לערבים ולאורך כל שנות הכיבוש המוסלמי.
כאשר התנועה הציונית נולדה, היא הפריחה וחידשה את הארץ הרבה יהודים וערבים היגרו אליה. הערבים טיפחו נרטיב שקרי כאילו הם נמצאים בארץ מאז ומעולם.
הגיעה העת לומר את העובדות לאמיתן ולדרוש להפסיק את הכיבוש (הערבי) ולפרק את ההתנחלויות (הערביות)
Jews lived in the Land of Israel before the Arabs and before the Zionist movement was born.
Most Arabs in the Land of Israel are descendants of Arab immigrants in the new
Jews lived in the countries called nowadays “Lebanon”, "Iraq" and "Syria" Before the Arabs!! Jews lived in “Iraq” since Babylonian times until they were expelled in the 1950s.
Arabs lived in the Arabian Peninsula. The Babylonians were not Arabs.
Jews lived in Egypt before the Arabs! The ancient Egyptians were not Arabs. Even during later times, the Greek rule of Egypt and the Roman rule of Egypt, they were not Arabs. Jews lived there at the times of Greek rule and Roman rule.
And Jews lived in the Land of Israel before the Arabs and during all the Muslim occupation of the land.
When the Zionist movement was born it developed the land and many people immigrated to it; both Jews and Arabs. The Arabs developed the false narrative that they lived in the land for ever.
Jews were called Palestinians. The “Palestinian People” is an invention born in the 1960’s with the help of the KGB.
I would recommend reading Dr. Rivka Shpak Lissak about the history of the Arab immigration to the Land of Israel.
The Arabs were never the indigenous people - the Jews were.
It is time to end the (Arab) occupation and dismantle the (Arab) settlements.
He’s full of BS, just like Bari on this issue. Today on WashingtonPost 👉 “Israel announces largest West Bank land seizure since 1993 during Blinken visit”
By Cate Brown.
March 22, 2024 at 7:06 p.m. EDT.
“Palestinians have little ability to stop the land transfers. After the 1967 war, Israel issued a military order that stopped the process of land registration across the West Bank. Now families lack the paperwork to prove that they have private ownership over their land. And tax records, the only other evidence of West Bank property rights, are not accepted by Israeli authorities.”
No one’s falling for your bullshit anymore hasbara 😂😂
@@hus390 Yeah, speaking of BS... Let's look at that WaPo article. The "largest land seizure" in 30 years measures a scandalous **total of less than 4 square miles**. And it's two patches of land in different locations. And both are in Area C which the Palestinians AGREED at Oslo would be under Israeli control -- they are NOT "transfers", which is why "Palestinians have little ability to stop" them. And BTW settlements on empty land were AGREED to be legal under Oslo (look it up). WaPo at least listed some of those facts, which is more than you did.
Great interview 👏👏 thank you. When I was a child my parents told me that in America a person could fall down in the street and no one would approach him. In Israel a person will fall in the street and the whole street will stop until he gets back on his feet. In Israel you can see two people yelling at each other and in the end hug and do Shabbat together. We all know someone who knows someone because this is a very small country where it is mandatory to enlist in the army. Since I was born I knew that when I turned 18 I would have to go to the army, and as a woman I would have to serve for at least two years. It was also clear to me that if I did not form an army and defend my country, I would not have a country. This is what makes a strong and united country, when its people understand that they are responsible for protecting it from the enemies who want to destroy it. The people are the country. We do not have the privilege of being too selfish if we want to exist.
Including the 2 million Arabs in Israel proper?
@@cornellencar Israeli Arabs are full citizens and have some of the best quality of life of any Arabs in the ME. Oh, Hamas took some hostages by the way.
@@cornellencaryes.
@@cornellencar yes included. the arabs is israel are part of isrel. becuse they choose so.
Thank you for your service. Long live Israel
This is one of those conversations I wish everyone could listen to in its entirety. Such profound wisdom and deep care for the history of multiple peoples.
Bari Weiss proves again in this interview how critically important she to America and ppl everywhere- she takes her role seriously: she keeps the public informed by reporting news w/o political slant. Bari Weiss is a genuine journalist.
She's a sophist whose work perpetuates the ethnic cleansing of Palestine.
34:00 UNRWA is not Hamas. This is a lie that has no pushback from "journalists" like Bari Weiss.
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Love this. Love facts. Thank you. Truth for Peace. Why this many facts are just completely ignored on a daily basis. Is concerning for truth facts peace and a very ignorant public that finds it easier to believe terrorist governments than democratic secular Jews. You guys give me hope. But why why why is it so hard to get facts into the “news”when it comes to Israel???? As a secular liberal Israeli American. I already had no faith in a post truth social media world but is it that or something else and why is it being accepted and repeated by “journalists” that so clearly have no clue what is actually going on and are perpetuating jihadist lies w/ no concern about the damage they are doing for everyone in this region that actually wants peace. And also to boycott innocent peace loving musicians and professors bc they are Jewish is so disgusting and No one in America seems to care. Bc it’s now considered ok to treat ALL Jews as if were Bibi. It’s ignorant dangerous offensive and hypocritical to a degree that we need a new word to treat anyone that is Jewish or Israeli like s**** and not feel bad or be concerned about the fact that they are openly treating a minority that just suffered the worst terror attack in history after 9/11 but per capita much worse than it and are instead supporting a terror group that is openly committed to killing Jews and Arabs and atheists and all the lgbt and anyone that doesn’t support terrorism including their own people. I never thought I could see such levels of ignorance and if just continues on until they finally meet Hamas/islamist and realize the level of evil includes them as well they continue to spread their lies and agenda as facts.
Today on WashingtonPost 👉 “Israel announces largest West Bank land seizure since 1993 during Blinken visit”
By Cate Brown.
March 22, 2024 at 7:06 p.m. EDT.
“Palestinians have little ability to stop the land transfers. After the 1967 war, Israel issued a military order that stopped the process of land registration across the West Bank. Now families lack the paperwork to prove that they have private ownership over their land. And tax records, the only other evidence of West Bank property rights, are not accepted by Israeli authorities.”
I jump for joy anytime there's a new post featuring Haviv Rettig Gur! There is noone who describes the worldwide history of the Jews like him! I recommend listening to his latest posts on the Shalem College page.
100%, those two lectures plus this should be absolutely compulsory listening before anyone talks about Palestine and Israel. Once you've listened through all three, and you can explain accurately what he's saying, okay, fine, now you get to have an opinion on it. Until then? Nah
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@@ruthgallagher9584 no what?
@@emsee90210 Today on WashingtonPost 👉 “Israel announces largest West Bank land seizure since 1993 during Blinken visit”
By Cate Brown.
March 22, 2024 at 7:06 p.m. EDT.
“Palestinians have little ability to stop the land transfers. After the 1967 war, Israel issued a military order that stopped the process of land registration across the West Bank. Now families lack the paperwork to prove that they have private ownership over their land. And tax records, the only other evidence of West Bank property rights, are not accepted by Israeli authorities.”
I’ve watched this twice now. If you want to understand what’s happened here and understand Israelis, you must listen to all 3 parts of this series and this interview as a whole. Incredible. I cut m cried a lot listening to the first two parts in Israel; it was hard to listen to and relive some of oct 7, but also healing in some ways. Thank you for this, Bari. Thank you for giving us a voice.
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Haviv is a real one. Been following him this entire conflict. His weekly appearances on Call Me Back with Dan Senor have been therapeutic and inspiring. Not to mention incredibly informative regarding the psyche of the Israeli nation.
Same!
100%. Dan Senor and Sam Harris and Bari Weiss’s podcasts have been very healing and hopeful for me. Voices of reason adjuster complete insanity.
@@amyhamilton5Dan Senior doesn’t bother to search about his guests. He hosted a well known liar about the alleged October 7 rape, and if he searched about her he would have known she’s a world class liar.
@@amyhamilton5 Today on WashingtonPost 👉 “Israel announces largest West Bank land seizure since 1993 during Blinken visit”
By Cate Brown.
March 22, 2024 at 7:06 p.m. EDT.
“Palestinians have little ability to stop the land transfers. After the 1967 war, Israel issued a military order that stopped the process of land registration across the West Bank. Now families lack the paperwork to prove that they have private ownership over their land. And tax records, the only other evidence of West Bank property rights, are not accepted by Israeli authorities.”
The Israeli cope is real. I love these comments are just Israelis confirming they’re not the bad guys, LOOOOOL.
Wow, first time hearing this man speak.
This man gets it!
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I wish I could play this on every billboard in the world, absolutely profound interview. Thank you!
Wow, Haviv is quite insightful. And Bari does her job well: ask informed questions and let the guest answer.
A brilliant analysis of the war and Israel vs. Palestine. Thank you, Bari and Haviv.
If he bothered to read the news, Today on WashingtonPost 👉 “Israel announces largest West Bank land seizure since 1993 during Blinken visit”
By Cate Brown.
March 22, 2024 at 7:06 p.m. EDT.
“Palestinians have little ability to stop the land transfers. After the 1967 war, Israel issued a military order that stopped the process of land registration across the West Bank. Now families lack the paperwork to prove that they have private ownership over their land. And tax records, the only other evidence of West Bank property rights, are not accepted by Israeli authorities.”
Yes, "a brilliant analysis," but there is no "Palestine."
Haviv is by far and away the most profound, most insightful, most humane and important commentators in or on Israel right now. For those who don't know, usually about two or three time a week he joins Den Senor on the latter's podcast 'Call Me Back' and you can get this level of analysis multiple times a week if you want it. He also has two very, very informative recent lectures on RUclips at Jewish colleges in the US explaining the history and misunderstandings of Israel. If this got you: go watch them right away, especially the second of the two.
Thank you Bari!!! You have the most important conversations... everyone needs to hear them. Youre putting the rest of biased media to shame. Keep going!!!!!❤
Breathtakingly lucid conversation. We need more people to hear this in full.
Haviv is that rare voice who knows in detail and can thoughtfully analuze the entire history of this cultural and territorial conflict. If you want to understand what is happening, and why, listen to all he has to say. Bari Weiss is a Western treasure - a real journalist for a change.
Odessa is closer to Jerusalem than Oman on the Arabian peninsula. Some of my people walked to the homeland from what is now Ukraine.
Looking at Google Earth, even Kiev (Kyiv), let alone Odessa (Odesa), seems closer to Israel than Oman.
We have also walked from Yemen and Ethiopia
I am so sorry they had to. The homes were we miss people pain me. I wish nobody had to leave and nobody had been killed.
Thank you Haviv and Bari for the most insightful interview I’ve heard on the conflict. Israel is a miracle that must carry on, beyond the ignorance that places it in such peril today.
This is a congressional hearing material, and much better in person! Haviv - bravo!
Another brilliant Free Press interview.
I love this guy I drunk every word he say .Give me hope to understand a little bit this world.
Israel is more of a global society than people realize. We’ve lived everywhere.
Today on WashingtonPost 👉 “Israel announces largest West Bank land seizure since 1993 during Blinken visit”
By Cate Brown.
March 22, 2024 at 7:06 p.m. EDT.
“Palestinians have little ability to stop the land transfers. After the 1967 war, Israel issued a military order that stopped the process of land registration across the West Bank. Now families lack the paperwork to prove that they have private ownership over their land. And tax records, the only other evidence of West Bank property rights, are not accepted by Israeli authorities.”
@@hus390 good news then.
And you wonder why people think Jews are Globalists, LMAO. You guys write your own grave, oh well. The forever victims.
@@hus390 Meanwhile, Boko Haram are murdering Christians in Nigeria, 64,000 since 2020, and Azerbaijan are murdering Armenians, also Christians, 45,000 since 1988, 8,000 since 2020. But you give Islamic fascism a free pass. You're an anti-semite.
Israel is the logical concluding end stage of progressive globalism.
And the progressives in the west don't like it.
Thank you Bari, you are a beacon of light in a sea of media darkness and shallowness.
I never heard of this gentleman man before, but I'm highly impressed by him.
I love your words.Sometimes I feel so alone as a jew
Bari Weiss is emerging as the best journalist that we have in the world stage today. He reports and interviews are important and incredible. Thank you Bari for all of this amazing work
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Today on WashingtonPost 👉 “Israel announces largest West Bank land seizure since 1993 during Blinken visit”
By Cate Brown.
March 22, 2024 at 7:06 p.m. EDT.
“Palestinians have little ability to stop the land transfers. After the 1967 war, Israel issued a military order that stopped the process of land registration across the West Bank. Now families lack the paperwork to prove that they have private ownership over their land. And tax records, the only other evidence of West Bank property rights, are not accepted by Israeli authorities.”
Get back to me!
Two of my favorite journalists (not just because I know them personally). Great thinkers and analysts. Thank you for a clear and thoughtful interview.
😂 Today on WashingtonPost 👉 “Israel announces largest West Bank land seizure since 1993 during Blinken visit”
By Cate Brown.
March 22, 2024 at 7:06 p.m. EDT.
“Palestinians have little ability to stop the land transfers. After the 1967 war, Israel issued a military order that stopped the process of land registration across the West Bank. Now families lack the paperwork to prove that they have private ownership over their land. And tax records, the only other evidence of West Bank property rights, are not accepted by Israeli authorities.”
Thank you both for this. Ms. Weiss is truly a force to bring light and truth to the world. Thank you.
Such a good one thank you so much. Really resonate with what he says about American liberal Jews. I grew up one and heard all about my grandfather and parents activism in the American civil rights units. My was my soul confused and crushed in the aftermath of Oct 7.
This is genuinely one of the best interviews I have watched on this matter. Haviv's articulation of the issues is the most lucid I have heard by far.
I never heard of Haviv Gettig Gur before. Interesting insights from both.
He's been a hero of mine for a long time.
@@carolineben-ari2798 then may you answer this:
how to reconcile such pro-liberal speech of Gur's with his conservative Jewish "opponents" who are calling for total removal of Palestinians and not just de-radicalization but de-Islamification of the region?
I've read comments saying that Gur only cares about OCT7 because it affected liberal Tel-Aviv, but conservative Jerusalemites have been fighting for their lives since... well... forever!
@@ebog4841 Why would it be necessary to "reconcile" that? Do you try to "reconcile"--for example--what AOC says with what MTG says? (Not to compare Rettig Gur to either of those two.)
@carolineben-ari2798 IDK MAN , maybe lol
if a crisis equivalent to about TWENTY sept11s occurred in the US, I'd like to unify as much as possible. even (and especially) MTG and AOC ... or at least try to unify. We don't need EVERYONE to be on board, just enough- and when polar opponents tend to reach across the aisle, at least symbolically, it may help
methinks in Israel's case it'd help a lot to politically unify Gur's stance with conservatives' stance
But idk! I don't even know what I need to know! Help!
What say you about this?
@@ebog4841 first of all, his last name is Rettig Gur, not Gur.
Secondly, I don't have the faintest idea what you're suggesting--somehow get everyone to think the same? I don't know exactly how you think that could be achieved.
He’s right on the money regarding the ability of Israelis to simultaneously be rugged individualists while not losing connection to one’s tribe which provides community and interpersonal and inter generational connective-ness. Here in west, we are so incredibly lonely as the loss of communal connections (churches, civic orgs, bowling leagues, etc etc) has been vast compared to how communal structures provided as such for our grandparents. Enter social media - and that need for communal connection gets a “quick fix” but is anything but authentic. Turns out Hilary was right (as painful as it is to admit that as someone who is not a big fan of the Clintons) - it (healthy or best approach to child rearing and a meaningful life itself) really does take a village. Our society that has embraced self centered life styles and ways of living is learning this the very hard way through bouts of depression, anxiety, suicide, and unhappiness.
Well said
Their connection is due to the terror they experienced on October 7th. God bless Israel.
@@Ripleycat in the immediate experience sure, but go to Israel, talk to Israelis it’s more than just one traumatic event that binds. I think a big part is that most Israelis serve in the IDF or similar. Thus national service is required and that’s huge in my opinion. The other is cultural. Not just Judaism but Islam, Druze, other emphasize community, regular family gatherings (not once twice a year like we might in USA), a connection to something bigger than yourself that binds you to a community. You don’t get that in USA unless we are war which is unfortunate because I love the USA. But we are losing civic pride and national unity slowly but steadily. I frankly think USA needs to institute national service for all 18 years olds for 2 years prior to college. It can be military, teach for America, etc etc, but get out there and meet different people and serve something bigger than yourself that stands for something you believe in.
Brilliantly put. Loneliness is a western epidemic. Judaism offers a home against the terrible winds. G-d help us.
@@Ripleycat Try centuries of terror, horrors and persecution
This one I will have to listen to multiple times because of the narratives and truths that I have not heard so well articulated
Why can this interview shown in all American Universities? Thank you, both. This was profound.
I want to type this out, hang it on my wall and memorize it. That was an amazing interview and amazing insights. Truly thank you.
This interview/conversation is a manual on nuanced, multidisciplinary and complex thinking made clear & with no woke/BS whatsoever. It is a pure gem.
I've been waiting since Oct 7th for someone to say that what Hamad did was nit an act of resistance but rather a battle in the Islamic Civil War
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Loved this interview. For anyone who is interested - Haviv Rettig Gur gives two amazing lectures and they’re posted on RUclips: “The great misinterpretion” and “the Jews who lived through history.” I watch a lot of lectures because I’m a huge nerd and there’s no doubt that they were the best lectures I’ve ever sat through. He’s such a good storyteller. I watched them both first alone then rewatched with my husband then RE watched with my friends.
Truly the best lectures I’ve ever heard!!
Highly recommend !!
This is the interview that Ive been waiting for.
Finally.
A. erudite ,articulate Jew with the theological basis in the hands of a fine and discerning interviewer.
A revelation, so much I simply hadnt heard before
Thank you both!
Haviv is one of the most informed and balanced people out there. Those who want to understand the war should listen to his guest appearance on Dan Senor's "Call Me Back" podcast.
Thank you Bari and Haviv. I've been waiting for this conversation since you mentioned Haviv's name at the intro to the series, and it has exceeded my expectations. Im honestly astonished at the depth you were able to reach in a relatively brief conversation. My thoughts always feel a bit less chaotic after hearing Haviv Rettig-Gur.
Just when I think of a question to ask, Bari asks it. Brilliant interviewer.
If Bari was at the New York Times she’d never have been permitted to do the great truth seeking journalistic work she has done with grace intelligence and clarity covering this atrocious war. We are in her debt. What a terrific interview. Thank you.
Brilliant and the best insight I have seen from an Israeli perspective. Thank you Bari Weiss.
One of the most enlightening discussions of the issue I have heard. As a non-Jewish American who tended to side wirh the cartoonish view of the world and race in general, that the commentator mentioned, I feel vindicated in my recent, instinctual rejection of that cartoon. Thank you Bari and friend. The depth of conviction of Jews who fought for the Civil rights of others in America have been betrayed by fake, uneducated " social justice warriors", all of whom would be the first victims of the regime they support in Gaza.
Nothing any Jew in the history of world has done or said can justify this slaughter and genocide. Pathetic. The idea that you are so special that murder is somehow fine. Pathetic
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You’re a white American man. You came in with your western pre conceived notions. What exactly did you learn? 😂😂
Incredible. How the heck did I miss discovering Mr. Gur until today. Now he has my full attention. Out of the darkness and fears since October 7'th, Mr. Gur has portrayed a possible future with the first tentative rays of optimism and a positive outcome.
He's incredible I listen to his weekly podcasts on Call me back. The breadth of his knowledge is astonishing
I agree with the last post that said this should be required listening. Incredibly insightful.
There's a Bedouin Brigade in the IDF.
And they are the most badass fighters and heroes . Our brothers .
Druze also serve!
battalion
Please mention the blackmailed Israeli Arabs being drafted in the IDF.
@@swarming1092 “we’re so inclusive, anyone call bulldoze over pregnant women” yall are terrorists. And the world is finally waking up
Thank you so much, we have a lot to go against the rising darkness but you give strength. We have the resilience to fight evil and stupidity. Am Israel chai.
great interview as an egyptian, i like his insight
This man is brilliant. And he's Iraeli, so he knows what he's talking about. In the US, we only get part of the story. Am Yisrael Chai. 🇮🇱
Viva to Israel and its people 🇮🇱🇺🇸
Brilliant interview as always.
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Bari, finally got round to subscribing today, precisely because of this. Bob only sang it, Marcus Garvey wrote it . Bless UP !
Take notes, folks. Haviv is a key intellectual lion in this war.
Just incredible. I learned so much and gained new perspectives. Thank you, Bari and Haviv.
Love you Bari Weiss!! You are amazing and live your podcast!!
Thank you for your wisdom and truth❤
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Bari Weiss is a next level reporter, love this channel!
Once again Bari and TFP prove that journalism is not dead and that profound truth can still be heard if one strives to listen. I will in the future take the concept of progressives living in a 'moral cartoon' into my own interactions with those who do. I like Bari fear for the future, but realize that the U.S. can no longer spend blood and treasure to defend those unwilling to defend themselves. I am a Trump supporter and really don't think Trump is a Putin fan, but he is also smart enough to realize Putin is the one we have to deal with right now. He was very supportive of Israel, and I supported that. I am not a Jew. I have visited most of the countries in the Mideast and like to think I am as supportive of Israel as I can be, for a multitude of reasons, some religious (I am a Christian) some historical, and some moral. As an outsider looking in I am glad that Israel has such intelligent and inspiring critics who understand the bigger picture and can explain things to an American audience. Good job Bari and Haviv.
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2 major errors: 1. The 1973 Yom Kippur War WAS a fight for survival and without President Nixon ordering U.S.A.F. emergency C-5 Galaxy airlifts from German bases, Israel was doomed. 2. In the 1948 War of Independence, Israel’s main arms supplier was Foreign Minister Jan Masaryk of Czechoslovakia, with Soviet consent
One of the best interviews I’ve ever seen
BEST CONVERSATION I'VE HEARD ON THIS TOPIC
Fascinating and illuminating. Thanks so much.
Both Bari and Haviv are great (especially, in this case, Haviv, who’s just a giant!).
excellent!
תודה רבה לשניכם!
EXCELLENT talk. Listened to it on my way home yesterday. Such a great conversation
I always look forward to hearing from Haviv on Dan Senor’s Call Me Back podcast. Such a sensible man. Thank you for this incredibly insightful and articulate interview!
Rettig Gur speaks almost weekly with Dan Senor on the Call Me Back podcast. Worth subscribing to! I went back to re-listen to parts of this interview multiple times. Excellent work, Bari!
Bari, I cannot believe you are soooo young. Congratulations 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Bari thank you for your voice of truth and clarity. This interview is priceless.
Wow. I feel quite informed after listening to this! Thank you both so much 🌹🌹
Thankyou . I’ve learned much from this conversation. Maybe even a glimpse of hope .
Wonderful conversation! I appreciate his hopeful and unique insight! Thank you.
This is such a good conversation. Bari is a top interviewer, such a treat!
HRG is a bona-fide on point dude. Thank you Bari for bringing this guy to new listeners. 💙💚 love from Ireland ✊️
What a great, thought provoking interview. As he’s talking there’s a Gilda Meir quote that popped into my head “We Jews have a secret weapon: we have nowhere to go.” That was relevant then, it is now.
Brilliant conversation
Haviv brought me back the faith in people.. So clear and conslcise
I agree to a large extent, this is obvious for those who have studied the conflict, islam, history. But what I can't be sure of is, how lasting this new future peace will be with radical Islam on the fringes. It will always be there and the hate for self determined Jews in their own land in dar al-Islam is quite big. What happens when Saudi Arabia no longer needs Israels know how? The geographical reality makes Israel very vulnerable.
When Weiss asked the question, "Is that true?," I subscribed and liked!
God I love this guy. His interviews are mesmerizing.
as always, you bring the best interviews, with interesting reasonable knowledgeable people. you are a light in this hard time of press and media/
This is the opposite of being "colonial" - A country sends people to different zones - We attracted people from many zones to a single country
Following up, There is an expression I learned in Isreal during my first visit purim 1967, We think left but we have to live right. This is embeded in Haviv's thoughts.
Thank you to both of them.
One important thing that wasn’t mentioned by Haviv Retig Gur is that Israel is also a profoundly spiritual and religious people. That is a great source of our strength and our unity. To leave that out is to misunderstand Israel.
With a large number of secular Jews in Israel as well. Thank God for the people in the IDF!!!
@@peggyobrien3943 many of the soldiers in the IDF are religious. It’s the ultra-orthodox who don’t serve, but many of the soldiers are orthodox religious zionists or traditionally observant. Most of the country’s Jews are traditional/spiritual. The hard core secular atheists are actually not a large majority.
Profoundly spiritual - yes.
Profoundly religious - only parts. To say Israel as a whole is religious - it's a propaganda.
I love listening to this man, so intelligent.
Brilliant. ❤
Granted I'm not an avid reader/viewer, this is the best thing I've seen come out of The Free Press.
Outstanding!!!
Thank you for this - such clarity!!
This is a very insightful interview. Such an amazing perspective
Israel is AWESOME! Visited twice and visited Jerusalem… what a place!!! And her people are so beautiful and complex… as an ancient people should be. Sending love from a Catholic in NYC #StandWithIsrael
Most important convo of past 12 months
I wish the World was MORE like Israel.God bless ALL Jews everywhere.
The Israeli, Levant and Gulf region situation is complex. As someone who has spent a life time as an expat, 30 years of which has been in Islamic countries, from Asia through to North Africa, this is the first interview that pulls together and outlines those layered complexities. Those in the West’s cocooned, flawed, ideologically driven liberalism, need to get out and travel more, really travel. Uni, activist rallies and one month NGO stints just aren’t broad brush enough to work a meaningful solution. Great Interview.
I was in Jerusalem after the war started and I was shocked for the first two weeks everyone was hiding in their homes. It took months until I saw people in the streets at normal levels again.
And, the people in Gaza have no homes.
@@ruthgallagher9584they voted a TERROR ORGANIZATION INTO POWER.....TALK TO HAMAS....
@@ruthgallagher9584perhaps you could ask Hamas why ? 🤔
@@ruthgallagher9584They are waking up to the fact the Hamas cowards that hide in their tunnels and use the polulation as human shields instigated the response from Israel. They dont care about their population as they count their millions of dollars in Qatar
What a beautiful interview, thank you both.
love these two in conversation.
I cannot tell you how much I appreciated this amazing interview. Bari's question at 53:50 made me cry tears because she is decribing exactly how I feel. Haviv is a scholar so well worth listening to. Thank you for this wonderful interview that gives me strength and hope.