Dodge, Chrysler & Mitsubishi - Key randomly won't turn? Simple fix
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
- If you're struggling to get the ignition key to turn (and tried of using a hammer or your hand to tap the key to align the tumblers), this is for you. The fix is surprisingly easy - you can do this with just a little help from me and Dorman!
We did this work on a 2006 Dodge Ram 1500 ST. However, Dorman makes the same part and similar procedure is used on the following vehicles.
CHRYSLER ASPEN 2007
DODGE DAKOTA 2001-2010
DODGE DURANGO 2001-2007
DODGE RAM 1500 PICKUP 2002-2008
DODGE RAM 1500 VAN 2001-2003
DODGE RAM 2500 PICKUP 2003-2008
DODGE RAM 2500 VAN 2001-2003
DODGE RAM 3500 PICKUP 2003-2008
DODGE RAM 3500 VAN 2001-2003
MITSUBISHI RAIDER 2006-2009
Jeep Cherokee XJ
Jeep Liberty
Dodge Caravan
Dodge Town and Country
Jeep Grand Cherokee
Jeep Wrangler
Jeep Rubicon
Chrysler Cirrus
Chrysler Voyager
Plymouth Grand Voyager
PT Cruiser
Sebring
Key years:
1998 1999 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 205 2006 2007 2008 2009 2009 2010
This Dorman 9247-93 cylinder is available from Amazon and from Rockauto. I used Rockauto. The Amazon part makes you choose between “auto” and “manual” and it means no re-learn or re-learn. The one from Rockauto that I used was “with re-learn”.
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This was on a 2006 Dodge Ram 1500. You need a pretty thin T20 to fit in the holes under the steering column and not a "multi-bit" type screwdriver as it won't fit. In addition, a dedicated multi-tool with all sizes on it (shaped like a pocket knife) won't be long enough.
Thanks so much for the video on the Dorman Product. I used your Rockauto link and just received the part today for my 06 MegaCab. Had it installed in minutes and works perfectly with both OEM Fob Keys. Thanks again !
Thankyou saved me tons of money and I should have done this where I was stranded but I towed it home then watched your video and it worked thank you
2011 Dodge Dakota. - life saver. Thanks for the tip and replacement part identification.
Hello I replace my ignition switch with your guidance. Did not have to ge a different key thank you again
I wish and everyone would make the videos like you are one of the best
This is BOR Fishing, I got the part installed and is working great. Hitting the subscribe button, thanks 👍🏼
To get the tilt lever handle off so the bottom plastic can be removed, tilt the lever all the way in the down position and pull straight down so the rubber handle slides off. This was skipped in the video above. I had to watch another video to complete this step.
Thank you sir! I try to remember everything for the narration but every now and then I miss something. Great people like you help complete the picture. When I am using a video to fix something, I’ve learned to read all the comments for reasons like this!
“Key won’t turn” *proceeds to turn key”
LOL - it was a good day. It normally always required tapping the key with a hammer and/or turning the key backwards first and then forward. It was weird. But this part did fix it! Good luck man
Key Word... lol
" Randomly "
I have found that I've been able to tap the back end of the key and then it will randomly turn, but I know that the day will come when nothing will work and I will be stuck with a very sad look on my face😢 and a tow truck bill as an early Birthday Present...
You have done a great job in your explanation and gave me the confidence to order the part.
Many comments have added some great tips also .
Hopefully all goes well and I will add to this later on?
Thanks for giving us your time and expertise. Next is finding programmable key fob replacements.
200 K miles and still running strong.
Mitsubishi Raider is just a Dodge Dakota with a different skin from what I have been told?
Making fender flares from PVC pipe in the near future.
Maybe I can share my experience with you and your followers?
Ol' Poppie Dawg
About to do this on my 2006 1500
As always thanks for the videos. Lifesaver! What are the symptoms of a bad lock cylinder? I have the same truck & replaced ignition switch but still have all dash lights on. Sometimes it starts & sometimes it doesn’t. When it does start it’s stuck in park & none of my gauges work & shift indicator isn’t working.
If it’s a smart key problem, the truck will start but won’t stay running longer than about 10 seconds.
Your problem sounds different. One thing that prevents the shifter from working is a small button that rests against the brake pedal. If that button is defective, the truck gets start in park. You can easily see it under the driver dash - just follow the brake pedal up. It’s a cheap part available at your local parts store.
Thanks brother
I will try this on my 06 caravan
My chrysler aspen has the hole but doesn't seem to have a button it does have the hole but after numerous attempts and even taking pictures I decided to check the new lock cylinder with my spare key and when I pulled it out there is no button on it so I'm very confused is this a chrysler aspen issue only so far everything else has been the same but from a pick to a small Phillips to a small flat head screwdriver I'm stumped.... please help
I wish I could help bud - this is the only truck I’ve ever had to do this on.
thanks for the video, mine just went out today and mechanic wanted $950 for programming. I'll order the cylinder today and do it myself since I already bought a new key also today
Use your old key if you have it so one key opens doors too. I’m not sure what they were going to “program” :)
What if the key doesn't turn?
So I have one, I put it together and the new one won't turn so I can put it back in. Any help, tech support was no help. This is the second time this has happened to me.
I've watched yours and others and everyone says it only goes in one way but it seems like it's in backwards. Lol
@@Zingmaster33 if you can make a video and upload it to show what’s happening it would help me understand
i have a 2007 dodge ram 1500 that the Red dot light started to come on, on the cluster and the truck wont turn on. I dont know if it's the ignition switch that is on the Left side of the steering wheel or the immobilizer which is on the right side of the steering wheel...
I don’t know “where” the problem is but the issue is the that the chip in your key is not being seen by the truck. If this happens with more than one key then you’ll want to see what controls that inside the truck.
What’s the problem if the light doesn’t turn off ?
The chip key isn’t recognized and the engine won’t stay running
What do I do if my red light wont go off?
If the engine stays running, then I’m not sure - I guess it’s fine but that light usually means the engine stops running a few seconds later. Make sure it’s not your transmission light as they look similar.
How do you get it out if key doesn't turn
Try tapping the key with a hammer. Not too hard but firm.
Also try turning the key backwards first and then forward.
Great video. I have a 2007 dodge ram 1500 and the key will not turn. I tap it with a mallot and then it turns. I tap it lightly but don't want to keep doing that. Do you know where I can order a cylinder for it? Thanks.
The video description has a link to where you can get it. I used the Malloy trick too but it became annoying.
Hey - since yours is currently doing this, can you do me a favor? Try turning the key back a notch (toward you) before trying to turn it forward. See if that makes it work. I’m curious to know.
Thanks
06 3500
I let someone borrow my truck and they forced the key out without it being in the correct position, now the key is hard to turn and the door open dings even when I remove the key. Would replacing this cylinder fix this problem?
I would suspect it would fix the hard to turn part for sure. I’m not positive on the door chime, but there’s a good chance because that chime is directly connected to the cylinder - there’s really not much else inside there
Would this make it possible to have multiple trucks work on the same key? I know the door locks would be different but that's not a concern
Short answer - yes.
Long answer, if there’s chip security, you’ll need a locksmith or dealer.
What if you can't turn the key
CHeck all the comments here.
Use a hammer to tap the key but don’t go crazy hitting it.
Try turning the key backwards first - then forward.
If you are replacing the cylinder, you don’t actually need the key to turn. It’s just pretty handy to use the key to pull it out. If that’s not possible, just use a pic or a flat head, screwdriver, or some thing that you can get to go in the keyhole and pull the cylinder out.
@@TallFamilyFilms OIC you just need something to get a "grip" on the cylinder to pull it out, but you can release the cylinder (2005 Ram 1500) without it being turned. Am I understanding that right?
@@justaguy6100 that’s correct. Once you push the pin in, the cylinder should be free and you just need to get a grip on. Like you’re stealing a Hyundai with a USB cable ;)
@@TallFamilyFilms LOL Thank You!
Whish you would tell where you got the cylinder I cannot find one for an 07 dodge 1500 sport
Thanks for watching Franklin - it’s actually in the description. I got mine from Rockauto.com. Also available on Amazon. The one I used was “with re-learn” if that option comes up.
Only problem is the title says "key won't turn". His key obviously turns
Ha! It’s funny that’s never come up before. And I should’ve explained in the video what was going on. It would turn sometimes, but it usually required you to hit it with a hammer to make the tumblers line up. That is a temporary fix that will work if you don’t want to replace the cylinder.
when you get the new cylinder and insert your if you messup can you start over
I’m not certain. How did it get messed up?
I have not tried it yet I was wondering if you only have one try at the new lock cylinder
@@dabrown50 well, if you watch closely in my video, when I’m turning the key to set the cylinder, the key pops out but I just put it back in and continued. So I guess it’s a little flexible but this is hard to mess up
replaced the cylinder, now the key that just came out of the ignition is the only one that works the door locks via fob. If I insert the other key now that one works on door locks and the other one won't. Any thoughts?
I’ve never had this issue - very strange but it sounds like they are out of sync. Try this procedure here (enter your year etc and look for instructions at the bottom of the page)
www.remotesremotes.com/
Edit: this may not be possible with just two keys. I’m not sure. It might be worth picking up a 3rd blank key at eBay/Amazon and doing this
Where did you get the cylinder? They come in two flavors (re-learn and not). I used the re-learn. Not sure what the other cylinder would do.
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My cyclinder is stuck in the housing please help
The old cylinder is stuck or the new one?
@@TallFamilyFilms The new one. I believe the pins stick out and get stuck in the housing. I returned the part and got another. Same problem.
So what about if you can't get the key to turn?
Try tapping it with a hammer - firmly but not hard enough to bend the key. Also try turning the key backwards first and then forward. Buy some graphite and try to get as much of it as possible I to the lock - use the key to shove it in.
@@TallFamilyFilms great! I give that a try this afternoon.
@@DocGTO 3-in-1 makes a spray dry lubricant. Dry works better for locks which is why I suggested graphite. However, you are going to replace your cylinder anyways so I’d start with dry and if that doesn’t work use normal spray lubricant.
@@TallFamilyFilms yep. We did the dry lube and rubber mallet and it finally turned. All good now. Thanks!
What’s the difference between an re-learn and non re-learn?
It’s with relearn or without relearn.
With relearn is for cars that have a smart key system. It means “cylinder will relearn the existing chip key”.
Without relearn comes with new keys and you don’t use your old keys. No smart key system.
@Tall Family Films What can I do if the hammer trick doesn't work? It worked a time or two, but when I actually went to replace the cylinder, I cannot get the key to move. Is there a way to get the stuck ignition out if the key will not turn at all?
So, the only reason you need it to turn is to give you something to grab onto to remove it. If yours won’t turn at all, I’d use a pick like this:
www.homedepot.com/p/Husky-Precision-Hook-and-Pick-Tool-Set-4-Piece-60004H/302435929
Insert the 90° pick or the hook pick into the key hole, press the release button underneath and use the pick to pull it out. Hope that helps.
@@TallFamilyFilms nonono, the key won’t turn at all. It can’t even turn one click, let alone to the run position. What do you do if you can’t turn the key at all
@@Djjvyvvt57457 turning the key is not required, you just push the pin in on the bottom and use a screwdriver or something to get the cylinder to come out.
Also, you could put the key into the ignition and tap the end of the key with a small hammer. Don’t hit it hard, just tap it over and over and eventually it may turn.
Lastly, try turning the key backwards before you turn it forward - sometimes that works.
So check it in this video you have your trucks original key for it, I don’t I lost my key and was told I can just buy this ignition lock cylinder that comes with a key for now, well I’m your video here you used your original key to turn it to a certain distance before pushing that lock clip to remove the assembly how am I able to do this without the original key to my truck cause it’s lost and my truck is a 08 Dodge Ram 2500 5.7 hemi
Assuming you don’t have the chip-key anti theft technology (I point out at the end how to see if you do on an 06 - or check your owners manual to see what all the dash lights mean so you can check on yours)…
If you don’t have this, you can literally use any Dodge Ram key and make it work with this cylinder. You could buy a used key on eBay (People sell them just for the fobs) or maybe a hardware store could cut you one. I’m not sure if they can without a sample key - I’ve never asked. Note that these won’t unlock your doors with the physical key anymore but you can program the fob to do that. Just don’t let the fob battery die :)
If you do have anti-theft, you’re going to need an uncut chip key and a locksmith who has the computer to match it to your truck. Not cheap. I’d get two or 3 keys as the additional ones are usually very cheap.
Let me know how this turns out. I’m curious.
How is this when the key won’t turn when you literally turned your key to remove it?
It was extremely intermittent. And extremely annoying. If you can’t get your ass to turn it all try tapping the end of the key with a hammer when it’s in the ignition. Don’t hit it hard just keep putting it lightly. You can also try turning the key backwards before you turn it forwards. That worked for me often.
Someone broke into my 2005 dodge caravan and popped out my ignition cylinder can I just replace it or do I need a locksmith ?thats what I keep hearing
If the drilled it out, you may need more than a locksmith. But if they just ripped it out, you likely can do this repair using the same part I showed. It’s cheap enough to take the gamble. It comes with a key but if you still have yours you can re-key it like I did.
Thanks I appreciate it
I got it sarted it but the red light stayed on so it cut off… where my cylinder goes into it’s all broken it doesn’t stay in tight it’s stays loose so Im guessing that’s the problem
@@swzeusmartinez7874 have you replaced the cylinder or is this the old one that’s broken?
The cylinder is literally good they just popped it out somehow but did damage to where it goes into so it does fit right into it but still can come out I need to now the name of what the cylinder goes into…thank you so much
How do I get the pin to pop out if my key won’t even turn to make it pop out
Lightly Tap the end of the key lengthwise with a hammer straight into the cylinder
@@TallFamilyFilms thank you
@@curlyheadian8607 the idea is that the tapping will force the tumblers in the lock to correctly fall into place where they should be when the key is inserted. Right now they’re stuck. Some spray silicone might help too. I’d look for dry spray and not something like wd40. Home Depot also sells graphite powder which is meant to free sticking locks. All of these solutions should be seen as very temporary. Let me know how it goes.
@@TallFamilyFilms my tumblers are worn and so is my key I’ve been trying everything and now I’ve resulted to a screwdriver so I’m pretty sure I messed the tumblers up more but they were worn to death anyways but the screwdriver isn’t working either
@@curlyheadian8607 Unless you used a tiny screwdriver do you probably didn’t get it in deep enough to mess up the tumblers (but that depends on how hard you hit it I guess). Your best bet is going to be the original key and tapping all around that cylinder and key with the hammer.
The new kit comes with a new lock cylinder and the housing (the part that has the button on it that you press in). So I suppose you could put a socket extension under the button and force it back in with a hammer. I’ve never done that, so I’m not sure if it’s possible but it would be worth a try I guess if the hammer doesn’t work. It’s aluminum so it will malform which could work.
What problem will you have if the light doesn't turn off ??
In my case, the truck would start but it would stall within 10 seconds
What problems would you have if red light doesn't go out car starts but stalls out after 10 seconds
@@raypride433 that means your having some issue with the security chip inside your key.
Hello I folloed your steps on your video they were very simple but now my truck starts and shuts off after 5 seconds. Any ideas on how to fix that?
How in the world did you get the key to turn when you put the two together?!
Which two do you mean?
The two pieces that come in the box. I followed your video as well as the instructions provided and the key will not turn whatsoever to make that button depressable
@@TallFamilyFilms You covered it around @4:18 in the video
@@godlygainz2759 ah - so you can’t get the old cylinder out of the truck?
@@TallFamilyFilms The old one will come out, but new one won’t go in. I can’t press the button
what if the key won't turn at all when you try to take the cylinder off?
Are you talking about the old or the new cylinder?
The key won't turn at all on the old cylinder, how do you remove it??
@@TallFamilyFilms I can't turn the key on the old cylinder.
@@detroit7709 this video shows exactly how to do that and how to fix it. The description includes where to buy the new cylinder.
Jim Gonzalez I put key in ignition and smacked it with a rubber mallet and it broke it loose so I was able to put it in accessory to remove cylinder.
What if you have lost the keys
So, this will be more complicated if you have the chip-key technology (anti theft). If not, this ignition lock would do the trick and start the truck using any dodge key you can buy. But that key won’t open the doors nor will the key fob work.
If your truck does have anti theft, you will need a locksmith as this is not something most people have the equipment to fix. Call around for the best price and buy blank keys on eBay (a lot cheaper) and ask if they will cut your keys that you already have - buy a few. I once heard a locksmith that charged the same price no matter how many keys I wanted.
Your truck is electronically
Btw, have any tricks for getting the AC to blow better?
Is this a physical velocity blowing problem or a temperature problem?
@@TallFamilyFilms physical
@@MarksUpholstery that sounds like an actuator problem. I had this on my 2006 as well. I didn’t want to disassemble the dash so I ended up using a piece of wood on the passenger side floor board to force the actuator to a position that provided some floor and some vents and screwed it into place. I should have made a video of that one but it was years ago. I’ll try to take a picture when I’m back home.
👍🏼, thanks
@@MarksUpholstery one last thing to check is if your year truck has a cabin filter. I don’t believe the 2006 does. If so, make sure it’s clean
This!
Prrfect
Did you have to relearn it or take it to a dodge dealer 🤔
There is no relearn for this. That’s why it’s so great! The chip key (transponder) security for the truck is handled between the key and low frequency radio waves sent from the car (but not the ignition itself). So you can replace the ignition but the security between the chip key and the truck remains intact. What you saw in the video is exactly what happened - perfect start on the first try.
How did you get the damned flat piece that's for the tilt of the wheel, off? What did I miss there?
On mine, there is a T20 screw holding that piece on. It’s visible and facing you when you open the driver door.
Pull the lever straight back towards you. Pops right off.
Description says, "KEY WON'T TURN" My key won't turn. Doesn't that complicate things a bit? DUUUUHHH
Gee Wayne - sorry for trying to help you out. The only reason you need to key to turn is to give you a handle to pull on the cylinder so there are other solutions to that.
The reason it won’t turn is because the tumblers(tiny teeth of metal) are sticking. You can tap the key with a hammer when it’s in the cylinder (be gentle but firm - make sure you hit it straight on). Another trick is to turn the key backwards before going forward. Lastly, get some graphite powder from a hardware store and put a lot in your key and try to get a bunch into the lock cylinder (being powder this is easier said than done).
I’d you still can’t turn it, try to use a pick or something to remove the cylinder.
Key won't turn.
Tap the key with a hammer - lightly but firmly. Right on the end of the key going straight into the shaft.
Also try turning the key backwards first, then forward.
You should consider changing the title of your video. Just remove the "Key won't turn?" part. You're clearly able to turn your key with no problem, so this video isn't really for people who can't turn the key. Something, probably a tumbler, is lodged in there and my key won't go in all the way, so of course I'm completely unable to turn it, so I have no idea how I'll be able to remove the cylinder to replace it without being able to turn the key to allow the latch thing to be depressed.
Thanks for the feedback. Something to try is to get some graphite lubricant at the hardware store. Then use a small hammer to tap the back of the key as you’re trying to insert it.
In my situation the key wouldn’t turn 90% of the time.
@@TallFamilyFilms Thanks that worked perfectly! The weird thing is, I've replaced the cylinder and I'm having the same problem with the brand new one. I'm gonna remove it and see if there's some kind of debris between the cylinder and the slot it goes into.
@@AdamDeAloe I had a similar issue with my new one as well. Over time it just went away completely- my theory is that the old key is worn and doesn’t get the tumblers defined well in the cylinder but I honestly don’t know. The issue with my new cylinder also wasn’t instant - it didn’t start happening for weeks or months and then one day went away completely. Good luck with yours!
@@TallFamilyFilms That's odd! That's been my experience so far too, it was pretty bad at first, but as the days go on, it's better and better. Now it almost never has trouble. Anyway, thanks, it's nice to have that issue take care of.
How do I do this without the old key
Locksmith unfortunately
tell me how the hell im supposed to turn the key to press the button in if the damn thing is bound up and wont turn in the first place
Yeah, I feel ya. Read through the comments. The best advice is to tap it with a hammer. Firmly, but not hard - use a small hammer and hit it straight to not bend the key.
Second - spray graphite powder in there. Nothing liquid.
Third - spray dry lube in there. It’s sort of liquid but dries.
Fourth - tap it with a hammer :)
@@TallFamilyFilms good idea, ill spray some dry lube then hit with hammer again
@@TallFamilyFilms im bout to take an air hammer to this damn thing if that doesn’t work
@@desertoutlaw3317 LOL. Easy now! That pin on the bottom won’t come up if the key won’t turn. That pin is all that that holds it in. I’m not saying you should do this because I haven’t but that entire cylinder and the pin are aluminum. I properly place 1/4 socket extension hit with a hammer on that pin might shear off whatever locks the pin.
Oh, one more thing. When this started getting really bad for me, I found that turning the key backwards before going forward helped quite a bit.
@@TallFamilyFilms thanks ill give that a shot if i cant get it