The TECH! How close are we to creating Bioshock's Rapture?

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  • @ShoddyCast
    @ShoddyCast  8 лет назад +291

    We realize the rebreather mentioned has been debunked but we're unable to add annotations to the video. If you're here to comment on it, we already know. Though the triton doesn't work, there are compact rebreathers for sale today so take that as an example instead.
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    • @laserpanda9553
      @laserpanda9553 8 лет назад +5

      ShoddyCast mat pat already did this on game theory

    • @AlucardNoir
      @AlucardNoir 8 лет назад +8

      Is Austin aware you published this video?

    • @agentwashingtub9167
      @agentwashingtub9167 8 лет назад +8

      So you know the Triton breather isn't real, right? It was only concept art for a potential piece of technology. To quote Snopes, "the Triton is far more concept than product, and not necessarily a concept that will ever be realizable"
      www.snopes.com/triton-scuba-mask-design/

    • @wut2502
      @wut2502 8 лет назад +19

      also thunderfoot explained in 20 mins on how it wont work ever!

    • @seanconnery2605
      @seanconnery2605 8 лет назад +31

      ShoddyCast your triton rebreather has been debunked more times then people have died in the history of earth.

  • @gokce9521
    @gokce9521 8 лет назад +159

    in the book of bioshock ryan says that he had some sort 'ryanium' that was strong against presure

    • @ThePixelro
      @ThePixelro 8 лет назад +47

      gökçe arslan aka plot armor

    • @DasReverend
      @DasReverend 8 лет назад +27

      The video was about the viability for us to build it today using what tech we already have. Also it completely ignored cost as Ryan would have needed to own around 40% of the current planetary GDP to get it done

    • @Zomboy123456789
      @Zomboy123456789 8 лет назад +87

      Are you questioning Andrew Ryan? Looks like we got a parasite over here.

    • @DasReverend
      @DasReverend 8 лет назад +7

      If you want to see parasitism, just look toward people who take Ayn Rand's fiction seriously

    • @reaperofburgers
      @reaperofburgers 8 лет назад +22

      So did you miss the reference to the games or just choose to bypass it?

  • @Erowens98
    @Erowens98 8 лет назад +143

    Plants can grow off of an array of blue and red LED lights.

    • @RXsmok
      @RXsmok 8 лет назад +24

      yep this time his research is shit

    • @Crafterrian
      @Crafterrian 8 лет назад +30

      blue and red, chlorophyll reflects green light

    • @Erowens98
      @Erowens98 8 лет назад +3

      Neferpeko
      Yeah i know, my mistake, i was tired while typing that.

    • @A_Moustached_Sock
      @A_Moustached_Sock 8 лет назад +6

      Okay thank you. I was sitting here the entire time saying to myself but cant you use those lights we already use to grow plants in places that dont get sunlight. Is that not the same principle.

    • @Erowens98
      @Erowens98 8 лет назад +1

      wheeljack699
      As long as you can shine blue and red light on the plants, they can grow. Doesn't really matter what is making the light i think.

  • @caliden2
    @caliden2 8 лет назад +132

    The Triton is NOT a promising looking device for divers, it doesn't exist. It isn't possible/real.

    • @Faust.0
      @Faust.0 8 лет назад +1

      retweet

    • @rammac5694
      @rammac5694 8 лет назад

      Caliden the Tristan's bullshit there's so many videos against it

    • @KurotechInc
      @KurotechInc 8 лет назад

      gearjunkie.com/refunded-triton-artificial-gills-campaign-update the truth about the tritons

    • @themikead99
      @themikead99 8 лет назад +4

      Not to mention that it was proven to be a scam. They didn't even attempt to make either. It might be possible, but it would require a lot of work and a real, much, much larger battery.

    • @13374me
      @13374me 8 лет назад +2

      themikead99 this technology is complete bullshit, at a minimum the triton would have to filter 60 litres of water per minute, which is like 2 garden hoses on at full blast, and that's if they use a rebreather/oxygen scrubber with it. If they use electrolysis they need basically a nuclear reactor on their back to get enough electricity, so no not possible at all

  • @smecker127
    @smecker127 8 лет назад +223

    Damnit, where's the SCIENCE?!

  • @nocturne9257
    @nocturne9257 8 лет назад +32

    The Triton doesn't work, and plants can use artificial light to photosynthesize, so they don't need to be in the euphotic zone.

  • @thomaslance5428
    @thomaslance5428 8 лет назад +24

    You're trying to put "shoddy" in ShoddyCast with that rebreather shit.

  • @MrWazzup987
    @MrWazzup987 8 лет назад +116

    the triton is debunked

    • @Human-dr7kr
      @Human-dr7kr 8 лет назад +9

      We know over 30 people already said that

    • @Bexxkie
      @Bexxkie 8 лет назад +3

      Oh i was about to leave a comment about that joke of a product.

    • @mu1288
      @mu1288 8 лет назад

      I wish they'd just done a bit more research before talking about something so crappy and fake.

  • @kyuelol
    @kyuelol 8 лет назад +39

    I like how you used Skyrim questmarkers on the map :D nice touch^^

  • @connordallmann8448
    @connordallmann8448 8 лет назад +64

    The Triton has been debunked thoroughly, by more than one person.

    • @someauzzie9139
      @someauzzie9139 3 года назад

      I was just about to write that hahah. Need to do more research :P I'm not smart. Like no where near it but I knew it was fake due to the size and amount of water you would have to flow through it hahah

  • @LtSpuds
    @LtSpuds 8 лет назад +34

    You know you can grow plants under a lamp right? You don't need to be in the zone high enough for sunlight to pass through the water to grow plants, just a lot of lamps can grow enough plants

    • @Birchlandia
      @Birchlandia 8 лет назад +3

      it would still probably take less power to split apart the water

    • @awesomecheese5324
      @awesomecheese5324 8 лет назад

      but it also brings food.

    • @Birchlandia
      @Birchlandia 8 лет назад +1

      true but it takes A LOT to grow food for a larger population and fishing/importation would likely be the case just look at modern cities which get all their food shipped in

    • @jonathan21022
      @jonathan21022 8 лет назад +6

      True but the whole point of Rapture was to be cut off from the outside world.

    • @draykowolf2293
      @draykowolf2293 8 лет назад +1

      except that fontaine used subs hauling nets to catch fish for the city...and also smuggle in contraband behind ryans back..

  • @caiovalente1672
    @caiovalente1672 8 лет назад +3

    Guys, the coordinates on Jack's present aren't exactly the location of Rapture (Spoilers) They are the coordinates in wich Jack will open the present and hijack the plane. The exact coordinates and the exact instructions to hijack and bring down the plane on the location of the lignthouse shoud have been somewhere inside the package. The shallower and more suitable places you guys pointed out could be the location of Rapture. Also, the sun in Arcadia comes from a giant arrangement of mirrors coming from the lighthouse to rapture, and the glass and structure of Rapture is made from imaginary materials that are somehow extremally fucking resistent to pressure.

  • @samramdebest
    @samramdebest 8 лет назад +131

    3:40 North? North Korea? That can't be right.

    • @MinecraftBuildStuff
      @MinecraftBuildStuff 8 лет назад +59

      Don't worry, the Triton is a hoax.

    • @seanconnery2605
      @seanconnery2605 8 лет назад +57

      samramdebest it was actually a scam by a South Korean if you notice in the picture he wasn't starved or dead.

    • @SaberKittyZero
      @SaberKittyZero 8 лет назад +44

      Thunderf00t debunked it.

    • @GothAlice
      @GothAlice 8 лет назад +3

      bottomkek

    • @RedRabbitEntertainment
      @RedRabbitEntertainment 5 лет назад

      He mispoke, it was South Korea, but it's still fake

  • @tylerp.5004
    @tylerp.5004 8 лет назад +28

    Everyone else: TEH TRITON IS FAKE!
    Meh: Yeah, and MattPat already did this video ecept a lot better with more evidence and math backing it up.

    • @XxdoggyshitxX
      @XxdoggyshitxX 8 лет назад +1

      No one fucking cares about Matt pat the only mistake shoddycast did with this video was not use Austin. they made a half asses video made by some retarded brit or auzzy

    • @DevilsAdvocateofnazareth
      @DevilsAdvocateofnazareth 8 лет назад +2

      scot, sounds like

    • @tylerp.5004
      @tylerp.5004 8 лет назад +7

      Martin Mercado Sir, are you, and if you are, how high are you?

    • @firebladetenn6633
      @firebladetenn6633 5 лет назад +2

      MatPat's video is definitely important because one of the things he did was explain how the structural integrity wasn't an issue because we have, and more importantly, had the materials to make rapture as early as the 1940's. The main reason it hasn't been done in real life is because it's more trouble than it's worth. and would be difficult at best to sustain such a city.

  • @finnphillosa1431
    @finnphillosa1431 8 лет назад +40

    Hello everyone; welcome to Game Theory!

  • @lightningbug6234
    @lightningbug6234 5 лет назад +3

    As someone who is an indoor gardener, plants are more than happy to use artificial light instead of sunlight. My bedroom only has one window and it's shaded by a tree, so I rarely get any sunlight, but I have almost 50 plants in my bedroom that have been doing well for months.

  • @jackdonkey13
    @jackdonkey13 8 лет назад +18

    The triton rebreather was a scam, thunderfoot made a great video debunking it. do your research next time guys

  • @thenthapple
    @thenthapple 8 лет назад +53

    Fine video folks, enjoyed it :)

    • @Stalli111
      @Stalli111 8 лет назад +2

      Thanks!
      More to come next week ;)

    • @sanguinespirit2397
      @sanguinespirit2397 8 лет назад +5

      thenthapple apart from the everything that was wrong. Seriously next time he needs to do proper research.

    • @thenthapple
      @thenthapple 8 лет назад +4

      Aiden Drew I enjoyed it. There will always be some inconsistency's in many research heavy videos :)

    • @gageniedert4344
      @gageniedert4344 6 лет назад

      thenthapple sup

  • @xedrickOG
    @xedrickOG 8 лет назад +150

    Shoddy, the triton was PROVEN to be a flop

    • @Derekloffin
      @Derekloffin 8 лет назад +2

      Yeah, it was BS.

    • @cjf-rw8vl
      @cjf-rw8vl 8 лет назад +4

      he said It was developed in NORTH KOREA, don't believe North Korea, simple as that

    • @DaKnightsofawesome
      @DaKnightsofawesome 8 лет назад +1

      The top three comments are the same fucking thing. Assuming it's fake, does that matter? the concept is still there.

    • @xedrickOG
      @xedrickOG 8 лет назад +2

      Chandler Gloyd The concept is unrealistic though. There simply isnt enough oxygen in water for that to be feasable

    • @mocha9072
      @mocha9072 8 лет назад

      +Chandler Gloyd give me the water that you would have to flood through that thing per second and the amount of energy required out of the fabled of micro battery do not add up that thing is not possible with today's technology.

  • @palidengamer2540
    @palidengamer2540 5 лет назад +5

    "The City Would Pretty Much Be Crushed Like A Tin Can" -Rapture: wouldn't get crushed by the pressure considering the fact that every material it's made of is reinforced and more than half of the buildings are reinforced titanium

    • @Mist261
      @Mist261 2 года назад +1

      The lore is that the structures were made of aluminium, a big oversight

  • @potemadunne1350
    @potemadunne1350 8 лет назад +9

    Nice job Andrew! I've never actually played Bioshock. I'm getting the impression that I'm missing out.

    • @regardlessrampage
      @regardlessrampage 8 лет назад

      depends on what you play games for. If you like corridor shooters and rich narratives then I highly recommend it.

  • @otakuofmine
    @otakuofmine 8 лет назад +13

    Not to forget, pure oxygen is poisenous.... we need a gas of the quality of air or atleast 'unpure/mixed' oxygen.

    • @Taylor-xw4pm
      @Taylor-xw4pm 8 лет назад

      ...

    • @MrWizardjr9
      @MrWizardjr9 8 лет назад

      what? im pretty sure nasa used pure oxygen in the apollo missions and the astronauts didnt die from breathing the oxygen
      i did some research and apparently pure oxygen is only toxic if the pressure is too high. pure oxygen at reduced pressure is ok

    • @otakuofmine
      @otakuofmine 8 лет назад

      john li
      is it? oh good to know!

    • @devonparsons1066
      @devonparsons1066 8 лет назад +3

      +john li
      +otakuofmine
      Oxygen becomes toxic when it's partial pressure (ppO2) exceeds 1.6, and partial pressure is percent times atmospheres. 100% oxygen becomes toxic at 1.6 atmospheres (1.00 * 1.6 = 1.6) and 1.6 atmospheres is about what you will feel at 20 ft (33 ft/atm * (1.6-1) atm = 19.8 ft). In general: max depth for a mixture is 33*((1.6/[%])-1).
      Regular old air is 21% and so is safe down to about 218 ft, and the stuff I tend to use is 32% and so good to 132ft. If you find yourself suffering from oxygen toxicity, the symptoms you will experience are best remembered with the acronym ConVENTID (Convulsions, distorted Vision, ringing in the Ears, Nausea, Twitching, Irritability, and Dizziness).

    • @otakuofmine
      @otakuofmine 8 лет назад

      Devon Parsons
      Thx for this fundamental answer! Now I am in the know.

  • @darkwraith100
    @darkwraith100 8 лет назад +30

    Game Theory says that rapture is possible. So who should we believe?

    • @petsan97
      @petsan97 8 лет назад +18

      I believe MatPat specifically said that the actual shape of the buildings would be a real problem, as they wouldn't be able to distribute the pressure well, but then again, the shape was mainly a large part of the atmosphere, it was supposed to be a familiar thing in an unfamiliar enviroment. A realistic city of spheres just wouldn't fit the atmosphere of the game.

    • @OnionChoppingNinja
      @OnionChoppingNinja 8 лет назад

      I'd go with matty's findings if I where you.

    • @petsan97
      @petsan97 8 лет назад +13

      OnionChoppingNinja
      Yeah, at least MatPat did his research.
      Back then anyway, these days, not that much sadly...

    • @MTR702
      @MTR702 8 лет назад +1

      As an engineer, I can tell you we cannot build rapture. It is impossible unless the depth of the city is shallower than noted

    • @captainslender12
      @captainslender12 8 лет назад

      The city is a possible thing however humanity needs to make stronger materials or construction methods before it can be built

  • @valgov3001
    @valgov3001 8 лет назад +1

    For a city on the bottom of the sea, the buildings would almost have to be spherical in shape to distribute the immense pressures. The good thing is that the current that low is pretty small due to the massive boundary layer, so side loading from currents would be somewhat negligible. Like the man says the name of the game is pressure!

  • @radarphaser
    @radarphaser 8 лет назад +7

    Holy fuck this guy thought the rebreather was real😂. Just leave the actual science to Austin, guy.

  • @NoIfsAndsOrButtsCA
    @NoIfsAndsOrButtsCA 8 лет назад +1

    Internal air pressure counteracts external water pressure, you can easily build deep sea structures as long as they are kept at pressure and the inhabitants and air mixtures are adjusted to that pressure. If you allow some difference in pressure the air mixture and adjustment times are reduced; so you can have your buildings as strong or as weak as you want depending on how extreme the pressure you want people to adjust to.

  • @rallekralle11
    @rallekralle11 8 лет назад +9

    you know, the triton rebreather has been proven to be completely impossible. other than that, great video :-)

  • @gethsoftware
    @gethsoftware 8 лет назад +21

    NOTE: Triton Is a Scam, Please get your facts straight!

  • @CosmicNerdStudios
    @CosmicNerdStudios 8 лет назад +65

    Triton is fake bro

    • @CosmicNerdStudios
      @CosmicNerdStudios 8 лет назад +10

      its COMPLETELY bull shit

    • @Human-dr7kr
      @Human-dr7kr 8 лет назад +9

      We already know over 10 people before you just commented that

  • @fortkavanagh
    @fortkavanagh 8 лет назад +3

    EXCUSE ME but you forgot to mention in the Bioshock infinite dlc burial at sea there are recordings of andrew ryan specifically saying he used aluminum as the metal for his city as well as MatPat at game theory confirming he used a specific type of glass he uses for the windows and glass tubes "that does exist in the real world" in his city!

  • @RedShocktrooperRST
    @RedShocktrooperRST 8 лет назад +5

    Here's a really odd pair of questions given the more normal subject matter of the series:
    1. Do you figure pre-2077 America in Fallout could have built something akin to rapture, and 2. would it survive the surface getting nuked to oblivion?

    • @demondeity9816
      @demondeity9816 8 лет назад

      fallout 4 is support to have a vault underneath the ocean so yes it seems and the force of the blasts wouldn't have any effect that far down ,not sure about the radiation

    • @lunar_trooper
      @lunar_trooper 8 лет назад

      water is a great insulator against radiation, so unless a bomb was detonated right on the city, it would be fine

    • @demondeity9816
      @demondeity9816 8 лет назад

      Lunar Trooper i've thought about that but wouldn't the actual fallout sink into the ocean or would it be carried by the currents

    • @lunar_trooper
      @lunar_trooper 8 лет назад

      star heaven I suppose it depends on how deep this city is, but as the video described, solar radiation can't even make it to Rapture.

  • @debries1553
    @debries1553 8 лет назад +2

    Rough comparison based on numbers I quickly googled:
    Splitting CO2 : 1500 kJ/mol ===> 1500 kJ per mol of O2 produced. (1 mol O2 per 1 mol CO2)
    Splitting H2O: 3000 kJ/mol ===> 6000 kJ per mol of O2 produced. (1 mol O2 per 2 mol H2O)
    (fyi: a mol is just a fixed number of molecules)
    So, if you really want to create your oxygen deep under water, your best bet is to just convert the CO2 back. This also gets rid of your problem with CO2.

  • @InnocuousRemark
    @InnocuousRemark 8 лет назад +7

    I can't believe this guy fell for the Triton.

  • @Joeink100
    @Joeink100 8 лет назад +24

    game theory did this and it was better

    • @yourethatmantis5178
      @yourethatmantis5178 8 лет назад +19

      i was kinda thinking the same thing too, and i dont even like game theory that much anymore

  • @TigerXGame
    @TigerXGame 8 лет назад +6

    Oh cool a science video about BioSho- Oh it's by Andrew.

  • @Elmithian
    @Elmithian 8 лет назад +1

    Here is an interesting extra fact. Iceland's geothermal and volcanic activity is not only due to the tectonic plates.
    In fact, the likely main reason why the island Iceland even became this big is due to it sitting on a *Hot Spot* (also sometimes called mantle plume), a gargantuan pocket of lava rising relatively close up to the surface of Earth's crust.
    Just an interesting titbit for those who didn't know.

  • @miranteazi
    @miranteazi 8 лет назад +4

    IF you read the Rapture Book (in the case you didn't), (I recommend), you probably would know that they build a sistem to "canalize" the sun light into rapture, and the constructions where based in the USA city building, buuutttt, the scale of everything where adapted to raptures/ocean format, to get somethings more easly, you could at least hear some audio book of rapture (I don't known if there is one, but probably have), the book tells almost everything about how rapture was constructed, how they taked the oxygen from the algae, using the geothermical as a source of energy, and bla bla bla

    • @BreakEm22
      @BreakEm22 8 лет назад

      *read

    • @miranteazi
      @miranteazi 8 лет назад

      sorry, Im quite a bit noob in english, lol

  • @0dWHOHWb0
    @0dWHOHWb0 8 лет назад +1

    You don't need sunlight for photosynthesis. If you have a source of power to extract oxygen out of water, you also have a power source to create light that plants can use. That said, electrolysis is a better idea. Plants would be used more as a source of food than anything else.

  • @stueymon
    @stueymon 8 лет назад +7

    but the triton rebreather is a scam? the amount of water it would need to pass through is monumental!

  • @liamsproule97
    @liamsproule97 8 лет назад +2

    Great vid Andrew! Loving your work on the ShoddyCast channel :)

  • @drivernephi1002
    @drivernephi1002 8 лет назад +9

    But that's just a theory,
    A GAME THEORY!

  • @Minerdog123
    @Minerdog123 7 лет назад

    For the oxygen production and CO2 removal the plants could actually be used. The lamps seen on the walls would have to be grow lights (lighting specifically designed to encourage plant growth) and they could be set on timers to dim and brighten to mimic sunlight.

  • @AmariFukui
    @AmariFukui 8 лет назад +16

    Couldn't you just use Electrolysis on the seawater? There's a fuckload of oxygen locked up in the stuff.

    • @joristimm8220
      @joristimm8220 8 лет назад +11

      of course you could. thats why he mentioned it.

    • @GothAlice
      @GothAlice 8 лет назад

      It would seem to make sense in a "sure, we _could_ do it" perspective, but it does not make sense from an economic or physical perspective. I.e. the amount of energy needed to produce breathable air for one person is prohibitive, let alone for a city of people. State changes (boiling) is hard enough, breaking molecular bonds is even harder.

    • @joristimm8220
      @joristimm8220 8 лет назад

      thats true, its not really economical, but they have a near infinite powersource (geothermic energy) and could use the hydrogen to power fuelcells to get even more energy if needed. also they dont have to pay for the heat they harness so the economic factor is not that much of a deal

    • @Pheatrix
      @Pheatrix 8 лет назад

      Well fuelcells are not suitable for generating energy when you you need the oxygen. A fuelcell just combines the hydrogen and oxygen to water so you would just lose energy in the process

    • @joristimm8220
      @joristimm8220 8 лет назад

      Yep that's my fault there, you can't use fuel cells without using the oxygen too. But you could still use it the regular way by heating water- > creating steam-> powering a turbine... You get the idea. That was what I intended to say, there would probably be more than enough energy to use...

  • @desidious4521
    @desidious4521 8 лет назад

    In the book, Ryan accounted for the pressure problem. since he was the times genius he invented a way to combine glass and steel and the atomic level and he used this for the glass panes along with different engineering for his city. But his city was still subject to erosion and water leakage was always an issue.The book was a pretty good read.

  • @Ardejas
    @Ardejas 8 лет назад +4

    Air Pressure inside the structure would help mitigate the water pressure.

    • @Ardejas
      @Ardejas 8 лет назад +5

      -_- no. Again, it's all about differential pressure. If said 'thing' had atmosphere inside it pressured to sea level, sure, but if it's internal pressure is allowed to adjust, or doesn't have a gas inside it, then it would be fine.
      The real problem is, different depths of the building would have to be at different pressures and different atmospheric gas mixtures. It also means going up or down the building would have to be a very slow process to avoid the bends. If you think Mass Effect Elevators are bad, RL Rapture would be maddening.

    • @Ardejas
      @Ardejas 8 лет назад +2

      No, that isn't how differential pressure works. A lung like setup could operate at any pressure short of infinite because the pressure pushing in is balanced with the pressure pushing out. You could even operate a bellows in perfect vacuum. The biological problem isn't with the forces but with the gas absorption in the blood.

    • @Ardejas
      @Ardejas 8 лет назад +2

      Understand, the air pressure inside a scuba divers lungs is equal to the water pressure around them.

    • @Ardejas
      @Ardejas 8 лет назад +2

      But the pressure is balanced. If you took in a full breath of air at sea level, then descended rapidly while holding your breath the volume of the air in your lungs would shrink as you descend, because the pressure outside effects the pressure inside. It's why you wouldn't want to hold your breath while acceding, because that WOULD burst your lungs.
      Density does effect the flow rate as you're inhaling, but it doesn't necessitate increased diaphragm force. Roughly:
      Velocity of Flow = ((Differential Pressure * Area of duct ie, throat) / density of gas )^(1/2)

  • @heh9294
    @heh9294 5 лет назад +1

    In the end of the Bioshock Infinite you end up in Rapture and take the batisphere up to the surface going for roughly 150-200 meters.

  • @DeaXi69
    @DeaXi69 8 лет назад +11

    Well ShoddyCast you really fucked up on fact checking.

  • @ChooChoo_4u
    @ChooChoo_4u 2 месяца назад

    I just finished bioshock for the first time. 15 years late but it is a great game. I am so fascinated by a city being under water. If it was real, I would go in a heart beat!

  • @Space_Reptile
    @Space_Reptile 8 лет назад +18

    the triton is fake as balls , it is almost impossible to to make it real aswell , thunderf00t and numerus others did some good debunking on that thing

  • @ruthiebgfamily132
    @ruthiebgfamily132 8 лет назад

    I CHOOSE to like this video! Great episode, but I have a couple of minor nitpicks: 1) Plants can be grown indoors with proper lighting, without sun. I'm willing to believe that the vines they use are so pervasive (think kudzu which doubles as food source, or jewelweed) that they needed to build a glass ceiling over the plant life to prevent it from getting into the electrical system. 2) I posit that the coordinates in the note are not the coordinates of Rapture, but the coordinates of when he should begin to open the package, and momentum could have carried him to the lighthouse, which itself is not directly above Rapture. Check the bathysphere's motion in the opening scene. So maybe Rapture is at a slightly higher point in the sea floor, and the amount of pressurization, while not able to completely stop the buildings from being affected, was enough to slow it down to a point where maintenance crews were just barely keeping up with the issues. Failure was inevitable but not immediate. Of course if someone who's much better at physics wants to prove me wrong, I'm all ears!

  • @Cougarknight18
    @Cougarknight18 8 лет назад +15

    The triton thing is fake

  • @kennethkates3140
    @kennethkates3140 7 лет назад

    It may have been mentioned before, but plants can exist without access to the Sun. A little piece of technology called grow lights are used when natural solar light is not available. And this technology has been in use for at least 50 years.

  • @RychecksWorld
    @RychecksWorld 8 лет назад +7

    Are we close to rebuilding Harambe

  • @Hiro_Trevelyan
    @Hiro_Trevelyan 6 лет назад

    You forgot one point with the gardens : today, we can make vertical farms that don't require real sunlight, LED lights seems to be enough for plants to grow. Maybe it's enough to do some photosynthesis too ?

  • @Dracossaint
    @Dracossaint 8 лет назад +5

    Also andrew i enjoy your hidden history, but maybe consider sticking to that tbh.

    • @Dracossaint
      @Dracossaint 8 лет назад +1

      Also this one was a bit lacking in lore... ya should of read the book at least.. it was confirmed as cannon by 2k.

  • @dudemonkey642
    @dudemonkey642 8 лет назад

    in the prequel novelization of bioshock they address the pressure effecting the buildings problem. Andrew Ryan has someone design a clear glass like material that is comprised of various metals. he called it ryanium and supposedly it can withstand extreme pressures. the real life version of this would be that material designed by google that is going to be used as an uncrackable screen on their coming phones.

  • @joshuapalmer8780
    @joshuapalmer8780 8 лет назад +6

    The hint that triton was fake was that it was both useful, and from North Korea

    • @RedRabbitEntertainment
      @RedRabbitEntertainment 5 лет назад

      It was actually from South Korea, he didn't even get that right in the video.

  • @foxtrotauxilium
    @foxtrotauxilium 8 лет назад +1

    It would be impossible for the Triton Rebreather to work because of the size of its battery, it would need a battery the size of a hoverboard's to filter and pump enough oxygen for someone to be able to breath through it for just a couple of minutes.

  • @OnekiKai
    @OnekiKai 8 лет назад +14

    Thunderf00t debunked the Triton rather hard.

    • @QwertyBoredom122
      @QwertyBoredom122 8 лет назад +3

      He didn't debunk it he kicked it in the knackers and proceeded to shit on it while it was curled up on the floor.

    • @thesalt2748
      @thesalt2748 8 лет назад +2

      He debunked it, kicked it in the ole meat and two veg, tea bagged it for 5 minutes then pissed all over it while laughing and yelling "LOL PWNED!", the whole time it was curled up inna ball on the floor whimpering for mommy

  • @MrRussianDollOfficial
    @MrRussianDollOfficial 8 лет назад +3

    "Would you kindly like". I suddenly have some strange urge to press the like button.

  • @thndr_5468
    @thndr_5468 8 лет назад +23

    Ate you serious? Do your research. Those Triton hills are fake. Jeez

  • @MadCowCrazy
    @MadCowCrazy 8 лет назад

    Some guy did the math on the triton, to be able to breathe you need to pump 350+ liters (700 gallons?) of water through it per minute, at that's if you had a 100% oxygen uptake.

  • @nuglet_
    @nuglet_ 8 лет назад +6

    what about food?

    • @Adam.godson
      @Adam.godson 8 лет назад +1

      i mean, if you can grow plants, you can grow food. veggies and fruit. grass for livestock. whole farms even

    • @loudnoises8197
      @loudnoises8197 8 лет назад +4

      And don't forget human flesh ofcourse....

    • @zacharywolf5666
      @zacharywolf5666 8 лет назад +4

      a lot of people forget how nutritious seaweed is, also fishing

  • @DeepPastry
    @DeepPastry 8 лет назад

    Spacesuits today only have CO^2 scrubbers as backups of the emergency sort. We can now just remove CO^2 directly and eject it from your otherwise closed system.

  • @boredphysicist
    @boredphysicist 8 лет назад +3

    couldnt you use a graphene biodome to negate pressure

    • @boredphysicist
      @boredphysicist 8 лет назад

      almost like a forcefield

    • @jonathan21022
      @jonathan21022 8 лет назад +2

      You could increase the internal pressure and use a multi layer geometric sphere well stepping up the pressure as you get closer to the outer hull.

    • @boredphysicist
      @boredphysicist 8 лет назад

      jona jon or use graphene. That shit can absorb forces like no other

    • @boredphysicist
      @boredphysicist 8 лет назад

      jona jon just dont try use a tritan cos its a rip-off piece of shit FUCK YOU SHODYCAST USE GOOGLE

    • @alvaro7003
      @alvaro7003 8 лет назад

      Just equalize the air pressure inside the building to the water outside and reduce the percentage of oxygen in air by adding nitrogen to not get hyperoxia. No need of exotic materials

  • @TheLiverTea
    @TheLiverTea 8 лет назад

    A building that can withstand erosion and survive the pressure being that deep has already been created, Look up Richard Hammond's Engineering Connections, Super Rig. You can pour a continuous concrete pillar and have it hollowed out to withstand massive pressures. However this would look nothing like Rapture's building.

  • @CelticBananas
    @CelticBananas 8 лет назад +3

    We just have to take bikini bottom and push it somewhere else

  • @Bennie00700
    @Bennie00700 8 лет назад

    MOAAAAAR BIOSCHOOCK PLEAAASE! I LOVE BIOSHOCK! Bioshock and fallout are my two favorite games! Great vid!

  • @Soy_Sauce_Supreme
    @Soy_Sauce_Supreme 8 лет назад +6

    is he talking? all I can hear is a piano playing.

    • @stat7644
      @stat7644 8 лет назад +8

      You're lucky. His accent is really annoying !

    • @dementedorange5389
      @dementedorange5389 8 лет назад

      25TV his accent makes me hard

    • @TheJohnboyhunter
      @TheJohnboyhunter 8 лет назад

      All Scottish accents are really annoying. (Says someone who lives just across the border). 😂

    • @Soy_Sauce_Supreme
      @Soy_Sauce_Supreme 8 лет назад

      I'm not trying to say his accent is bad. I'm trying to say that I cannot hear his voice with the music playing.

    • @stat7644
      @stat7644 8 лет назад

      KUNGFUFUMAN I got that and yes it really is too loud xD

  • @revolver265
    @revolver265 7 лет назад

    Oh, Iceland. How I love Iceland. Never seen a volcano, but tons of geysers and waterfalls.

  • @crazymammoth
    @crazymammoth 8 лет назад +4

    i'm sorry i just cant listen to Andrews voice for more than a few seconds

  • @blood_gush
    @blood_gush 8 лет назад

    Hey Andrew, you forgot to read "Rapture" the official Bioshock novel, which talks about how the buildings aren't crushed. If I remember, it was something like Titanium alloy frames inside the walls or something, but about 2-3 chapters into the novel, Andrew Ryan talks to Bill McDonagh about it.

  • @Royal_ram_
    @Royal_ram_ 8 лет назад +3

    mat pat did it first

    • @MTR702
      @MTR702 8 лет назад

      MatPat tends to do it first but not always the best. More entertainment than engineering which is both a positive and negative.

  • @Frostblitz20
    @Frostblitz20 8 лет назад

    US navy subs uses Oxygen recyclers that can allow them stay underwater for as long as food supply last. Also you forget about UV lighting on plants can help trick them into making oxygen.

  • @yyxy-sv4zb
    @yyxy-sv4zb 8 лет назад +4

    I wish Columbia existed. I love it's conservative, pro white ideology and I love it's style the classic 1910's style.

    • @hyperdark06
      @hyperdark06 8 лет назад

      but i dont think you'll want columbia in our era though thats practicely asking for hell on earth

    • @yyxy-sv4zb
      @yyxy-sv4zb 8 лет назад

      Crawford Graham Why? Is it because of the amount of left wing libtards on the planet?

    • @hyperdark06
      @hyperdark06 8 лет назад

      Rift x Magiicz well that, as well as the religious crazy people

    • @yyxy-sv4zb
      @yyxy-sv4zb 8 лет назад

      Crawford Graham Islam?

    • @hyperdark06
      @hyperdark06 8 лет назад

      no Rift x Magiicz

  • @Plastikdoom
    @Plastikdoom 8 лет назад

    We could do it, or one near the depth, take different structures. Big, really thick walled spheres would do. Geothermal for power/heat. Desalination plant for water, break it down for O2 & hydrogen. Now you have another fuel source, that when burned, makes water. Big hydroponics areas, using growing lights. With air circulated through there, before going to the CO2 scrubbers, lessen the load on them. Then carbon pulled out, kept for use in the hydroponic areas. Have a big water treatment plant, that uses hydroponics and fresh water fish, it cleans the water up nicely. For further filtering, taking extra load off of filters. Now you have fish and fruits/veggies. And water, power, heat, air. All the basics. I think we don't do it, cause it would be very expensive and a pain to build, with no real benefit or reason to do it.

  • @ronniehopper2726
    @ronniehopper2726 8 лет назад +3

    Is Columbia possible

    • @lukson981
      @lukson981 8 лет назад +5

      I think matpat already did that video, It's possible to build but not possible to live there

    • @jorger1818
      @jorger1818 8 лет назад +1

      MatPat did both already so...

    • @ronniehopper2726
      @ronniehopper2726 8 лет назад

      Jorge R yeah just watch matpat video on Columbia

    • @ronniehopper2726
      @ronniehopper2726 8 лет назад

      JustThatLuka thank you

    • @ronniehopper2726
      @ronniehopper2726 8 лет назад

      Ç , z:-|O:-)
      :'(

  • @polybius3765
    @polybius3765 8 лет назад

    We're also getting close to the funnest part of Bioshock, the Plasmids. CRISPR Cas 9 can remove and replace sequences of DNA in a living organism. It may not give us the power to shoot lightning or fireballs but it has a good chance of reducing the human race to a a bunch a gibbering mutants...more than we already are anyways. Good news! It's also super cheap and easy!
    Also I think underwater habitats often use a helium based atmosphere, which probably would have undercut the tension in Rapture if everyone sounded like a cartoon chipmunk.

  • @HalfwayAerial
    @HalfwayAerial 8 лет назад +11

    Disappointed in this video, the research done on this channel is usually very good. Mention the triton breather and immediately it lost all credibility.

  • @vincentlance
    @vincentlance 8 лет назад

    Unrelated to this video, but something that I found interesting is that the "VIm! ambassadors" mentioned in Fallout 4's Far Harbor DLC may be inspired by the inspired by the unusual marketing of the Moxie Horsemobile which is used by the real life counterpart of Vim!, Moxie.

  • @LordOceanus
    @LordOceanus 8 лет назад +3

    I'm disappointed in the quality of this video. Not only did you fail to fact check multiple points you made but you also neglected information in the game concerning the depth of the city. rapture is NOT located 2000 m below sea level. at that depth there is almost NO LIGHT AT ALL. also where the heck did you even get that number? while you are correct that electrolysis is the easiest solution for acquiring oxygen you also ignored the fact that breathing a pure oxygen atmosphere is lethal given time and flammable as all hell. at that depth the atmosphere would be fairly highly pressurized and every time someone went for a smoke the whole city would go up like Apollo 1! they would need access to nitrogen and other gasses to make life possible.

  • @prophetsspaceengineering2913
    @prophetsspaceengineering2913 8 лет назад

    If you'd increase the atmospheric pressure inside the city (by a lot), you could drastically reduce the stress on the structure. Pressure isn't simply about depth, but about the difference between the inside and outside of the structure. Reduce that difference and you directly lessen the structural problems.
    Humans can withstand a pretty high pressure for extended amounts of time and without severe issues (it's been tested, although spending your entire life down there is a whole other story). There are well known limits to this of course and it wouldn't solve the issue completely. But it's an option to reduce the structural issues by a lot.
    2K seems to have considered this as well since the Big Daddy suits release dense vapor, if you punch a whole into them (looks like they are supposed to be pressurized to an even higher degree).
    There actually is an example for that concept in the real world. Oil platforms sometimes need maintenace in very deep areas. Some issues can be resolved with drones but, drones can't fix everything. If profesional divers are required, they usually use a heavy container with living quarters inside, that they can sink near the platform. It gets pressurized on it's way to the bottom and the divers will use it to stay down there for several days or even a few weeks, if needed. It's a great way to avoid decompression cycles, which are known to be a severe health risk. This stuff obviously doesn't happen at a depth of 2km, but still a lot deeper than most lab stations.

  • @DJWolves97
    @DJWolves97 8 лет назад +13

    *Are you fucking serious? You are really going to take an ubran legend-inspired rebreather which doesn't actually work for your scientific evidence?* Unsubbed.

    • @100mckillers
      @100mckillers 8 лет назад +2

      DJWolves97 oh you showed him!

    • @ScoutSniperMC
      @ScoutSniperMC 8 лет назад

      Lol...
      You're joking right?

    • @DJWolves97
      @DJWolves97 8 лет назад

      a rather small moose ur a fkn idiot

    • @ScoutSniperMC
      @ScoutSniperMC 8 лет назад

      Well you're not much to compare to ;)

    • @DJWolves97
      @DJWolves97 8 лет назад

      a rather small moose Is that so?

  • @durzoblint6532
    @durzoblint6532 8 лет назад

    1. Plants can survive at that level because even though in the game it doesn't show, with the right material u could easily build a building tall enough for it to reach the euphoric zone.
    2. Even though yeah the Art Deco architecture wouldn't last there are more better materials to use that can survive pressure even deeper than where rapture is.
    3. If humans over time can adapt to low o2 levels on areas like Everest than humans can adapt to those type of pressures.

  • @_Blank___Space_
    @_Blank___Space_ 8 лет назад

    The city is still technically possible, just not at the same depth, perhaps around 2500 feet would be more probable. And to reduce the chance of corrosion, a high carbon steel titanium alloy could be used, along with high density plexi-glass windows.

  • @zacharyaspin7895
    @zacharyaspin7895 8 лет назад

    Aside from the obligatory triton remark, we can definitely build things capable of surviving high pressure. The problem is cost-effectiveness and installation. But yes, it wouldn't resemble skyscrapers at all.

  • @darneilyazzie7171
    @darneilyazzie7171 29 дней назад

    As you said Yes all is possible but yes the design of the city will change base on the needs, as for the materials it is actually easy. Zinc sulfur chrome copper seairon tungsten and titanium utility will base materials but it is best to use strengthened version from rapture.

  • @HungryGuyStories
    @HungryGuyStories 8 лет назад +2

    What if the pressure were equalized between the inside and outside of the buildings, and the people descended and ascended slowly so not to get the bends?

  • @MyJC19
    @MyJC19 8 лет назад

    There's a glass that hardens under pressure you could create a dome and have the city built within it would just look vastly different

  • @kylemcloskey3435
    @kylemcloskey3435 8 лет назад +2

    That awkward moment he says it's not possible but The Game Theroist did the math and says it's completely possible.

  • @twistedbloodyalice8003
    @twistedbloodyalice8003 7 лет назад

    The buildings in rapture where built at that level adapted to the pressure being built that low made it possible for Ryan to make rapture

  • @josephfarney8704
    @josephfarney8704 8 лет назад

    you can also create oxygen from water by running an electric urrent though it. This method was found during the 1940's.

  • @OmarAlhilo
    @OmarAlhilo 7 лет назад +1

    "It was not impossible to build rapture underwater, it was impossible to build it anywhere else" -Andrew Ryan

  • @drewcipher896
    @drewcipher896 8 лет назад

    I remember an audio log in BioShock that said the garden was not the main source of oxygen. It was just to make the citizens feel better.

  • @dylank4353
    @dylank4353 8 лет назад

    when I was down in the keys scuba diving I was a couple hundred feet away from that Aquarius lab but we couldn't get closer due to obvious reasons

  • @Llykas
    @Llykas 8 лет назад

    searching the comments, I have only found comments in regards to one lone part of the video, and nothing in regards to the part I'm going to call into question: The buildings being crushed. I'd like to indicate a little substance known as "Pyrex" or Soda-Lime. Yes. That stuff your lasagna baking dish is made out of. It's designed as a weird little substance that grows stronger the more pressure is applied to it, while yes, the art-deco designs aren't possible technically, the city COULD be build if 60 to 80% of the walls and stuff facing the ocean outside were made of what appears to be glass..and what do you know? 90% of the outer walls that I have seen are glass. With the remaining percentage being materials that one could assume is likely bronze, brass, or steel. While yes these metals would serve as weak points in the framework, they are likely also reinforced to prevent them from collapsing under the pressure. And the funny thing is? Aside from the obvious with the photic zones and Acadia's problems (do note that they technically did have a top-of-her-field floral biologist in charge of this place, who likely had at least some understanding of plant genetics, due to her work during the vietnamese war, which is on an audio diary that discusses her lazarus concoction), Rapture was actually viable during the time frame that it was listed as being built. There would have been issues, obviously, with designing statues and decoration in such an environment, but it's by no means impossible either.

  • @misdablugaming7137
    @misdablugaming7137 8 лет назад

    Love the video :) but I have some ideas. If they were able to create a machine that would rapidly recreate organic material (the respawn machine), what's to say they couldnt create a similar system that would recreate non-organic material, and, in effect, recreate entire buildings and/or cities?

  • @RXsmok
    @RXsmok 8 лет назад

    well you could always increase pressure inside the buildings so it would be equal to pressure outside solving the crushing problem and yes, humans would be able to live in that conditions, just getting there would require long ride (to slowly adapt to higher pressure)

    • @RXsmok
      @RXsmok 8 лет назад

      just as they did in those labs under sea (look the water doesn't get into, despite that "nothing" keeps it from doing that). Rapture is easly possible, but it would be expensive as fuck. Your research was shit mister OP.

  • @matthewcummins7563
    @matthewcummins7563 8 лет назад

    The garden in rapture would be possible. Plants just need light to use photosynthesis, whether this be natural light or artificial light. Natural light is preferred of course but lamps would do just fine, especially on those plants that are 'shade' preferring.

  • @mara.inator
    @mara.inator 8 лет назад

    YES!!! shoddycast you need to make more bioshock videos i seen all your fallout and skyrim videos and there the only ones i care about