Home Theater Bypass Explained | How to Get Great Two-Channel Audio in Your Home Theater!
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Ever since the birth of home theater, there has been a chasm between having a great-sounding two-channel stereo system and a home theater surround sound system in the same room. Audiophiles cringed at the idea of listening to their vinyl, CDs, or digital music files through a less-than-ideal home theater receiver. And on the other hand, some home theater enthusiasts who wanted to dive into the world of high-res music or analog wondered how this could work with their home theater setup.
In the early days of surround sound, accomplishing this goal was daunting and might involve combining two systems, then physically moving cables around, which was extremely inconvenient. Then, the makers of better-sounding two-channel audio gear recognized this need and added a new feature to their products that made it all simple as could be. That new feature had several different names depending on the brand, but they all did the same thing, which we will call the home theater bypass.
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0:00 Home Theater Bypass
1:03 Why Implement Home Theater Bypass into Your System?
3:13 Scenario 1
3:33 Scenario 2
3:58 How To Connect Them Up!
5:06 So How Does All This Work?
6:31 Conclusion
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HT Bypass is a great option for many setups where some would like better 2-channel performance in their home theater. Great video!
Thanks for watching 😁
I run a Marantz SR7012 for soround and bypass to an Anthem STR integrated for two channel listening, and I Iove it. Great video!
Thanks for sharing! That's an awesome setup.
Totally get this video. After auditioning three separate receivers, I had almost given up trying to get good quality 2 channel stereo music from an AVR. All I can say thank god the arcam HDA range came to the rescue 🥳
Great video for music lovers who happens to also like the odd movie 👍
Still better to use a Stereo Amp than Arcam AV Receivers
@@justinbyrne5736 yeah I agree. Hence the reason why my arcam avr20 is hooked up to a couple of matching power amps. Now there's the question...
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Thanks very much!
Great video! Thanks for sharing this information!
Glad it was helpful!
Great Video as always! 🙂
Thanks again!
As described and shown in this video, HTBypass using the McIntosh will not work until you also connect a 12 volt trigger out feed from the Onkyo to theMcIntosh Control Bypass input on the rear. The McIntosh will not go into bypass mode until receiving the 12 volt signal. In addition, adding a HT processor into a McIntosh setup allows you to use the HT processor as an HDMI bridge to connect an SACD, DVD Audio player or an Apple 4k TV for example to the McIntosh. I am using a Rotel HT Processor to connect a Sony UBP-800 M2 to the McIntosh C2800 along with other HDMI devices in stereo mode. When using it sounds great outputted to my MC275.
Great explination!
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Good explanation!
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Great video!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great explanation.
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You setup looks great. I get great audio reports with my T4XB using a Shure 444 (high impedance to match the Drake input ) which was a popular combination back in the day. I had tried a Turner 454C SSB mic and the feedback was the audio is tinny. The D-104 also has high treble - to me it’s not great for SSB but others work probably argue that. I’ve heard the Turner +3 is an awesome sounding mic. 73.
Thanks for sharing!
Very helpful.
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you for this video!
So the real trick is getting a two-channel piece that has "bypass" available.
Love to see a video on the sub issue next. thx!!
That's exactly it! Thanks for watching 😁
If I run subs from the 2 channel preamp outs to the active subs, will this dynamic have to change to include the subs in the HT side?
Thank you for this. I've literally been debating the Emotiva BasX PT2 Preamp/DAC/Tuner because it has home theater bypass...but I didn't even know how it worked.
You're welcome! Enjoy 😁
@@AudioAdvice Lookin' forward to the info on how to deal w/ the little issue of using a sub in a scenario where a stereo preamp/dac/whatever is being used for 2.1 listening in a larger surround setup. I'm real new to this, and the subwoofer problem didn't even occur to me til you brought it up.
Cool. I have stereo speakers set up on their own amplifier. I also have a Yamaha A8A AV receiver. I get very good sound from Snell speakers in "2 Channel" mode with the A8A. I will definitely look for a model with bypass, if I replace my power amp.
That sounds like a great idea! Reach out to our experts at audioadvice.com if you need any suggestions 😁
Hello. How do you setup home theater bypass between anthem STR stereo preamp and a Denon receiver 4700h that is currently using an external amplifier. It seems like I would have to remove the external amplifier connection from the Denon in order to make the pre-outs available for this home theater bypass with the anthem STR preamp. Additionally, I would then need to connect the anthem Left & Right channels directly with the external amplifier via XLR since no rca connectors are available on the anthem. Lastly, I would need a special cable (XLR to rca) going from amplifier to my center pre-out on my Denon?
If you have an external stereo amp connected to the Denon for your main speaekers, it should be connected to the Anthem. If you have just a mono amp connected to the Denon for the center channel, you leave that in place. Your STR should have 4 analog RCA inputs. And should you have bought all this from Audio Advice, we would have walked you through it already :)
Game changer
Thanks!
Very interesting, to connect my Rotel to my Denon 4700 AVR to enhance and give quality to the front column channels.
I understand that the speakers must always be connected to the stereo amplifier, right?
Exactly yes. If your Denon has front channel preamp outs and your Rotel has a home theater bypass, it will work great.
I'm looking at a Parasound HINT 6 Halo integrated amp, and it has Home Theater Bypass for L, R, Sub 1, and Sub 2. Does that mean I can use the same subs for the 2.1 setup with the HINT and also a surround sound receiver? If so, any idea how that all gets wired?
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Great video! How about the subwoofer if I want the power amp to work for 2.1 instead of 2.0?
Thanks, that can be pretty tricky. If you are interesting in pursuing, please reach out to our team to get into more details on your system. You'll need a sub with speaker level inputs and a crossover. You then will need to use the crossover on the sub for stereo, and defeat it for home theater, which is inconvient. The REL subs work very well for this though. Thanks for watching
Would I get good quality 2ch in this bypass scenario if my preferred music listening is via tidal on appletv which is plugged into a home theater processor. And the reason I’m fixed on appletv is for the on screen display on my TV for music videos watching on tidal
The bypass would not be useful for your use case. Thanks for watching
You can do something similar by using a regular input on your 2ch rig and turning the volume control to wherever unity gain may be. Not as convenient but it works
Ya, because another name for "Home Theater Bypass" is "Main-In". Right? I'm grumbling because of all the times I wondered, "wtf is htb". Ridiculous.
Now however, I think your way would probably work better. It would be pure luck to gain match one Mac power amp vs some random 7-channel multi-amp box-thingy.
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That would work too, but can be inconvienent and a disaster if you switch inputs on your 2 ch rig and forget to turn the volume down.
Will this method work with the Sony AN1000 with the Zone 3 pre outputs?
We have not tested that but it should if set up correctly.
My Yamaha AVR has been doing double duty for over 20 years with Direct mode. I never understood what was so difficult about this but sounds like not all AVRs had that option.
Direct mode is simply bypassing a lot of the signal processing inside the unit. Home Theater Bypass, as Audio Advice clearly described, is leveraging a much higher performance piece of gear to drive your stereo pair, but seamlessly integrating it to work with an existing home theater receiver, even the very best of which pale in comparison to a comparably priced dedicated stereo unit. That’s no insult to the home theater receiver by the way. It’s simple fact. Home theater receivers can be awesome. But 5, 7, 9, 11, or 15(!) channels of amplification in one chassis? Compared to a chassis with a massive power supply dedicated to only two channels??? It’s science man!!! 😉
@@scottwallace1 Yes, absolutely!
Very well put! Thank you!
@@omahahaha You're not getting it. Your Yamaha in Direct Mode is not close to having a dedicated 2channel system for stereo listening.
@@CP-vi8fy Thanks for your reply. I do get it, but this is a great option to save money or space. My setup sounds fantastic.
Here is my scenario and im a noob.... I pretty much have a 7.2 speaker setup but have all speakers play music in stereo(left and right). What I've done for now is buy xlr splitter cables to split front left pre-out signal from my pre/pro-amp to 2 amp channels where I have 1 amp channel (monolith 7x)connected to my left tower speaker and the other connected amp channel to 2 satellite speakers(above my left side of couch) and the other (behind left side of couch). The non tower speakers are smaller 4ohm satellite speakers wired in parallel. My setup is the same on the right side. Is there a better way to do that? can I "assign" my assignable height 1 and 2 to the Front Left on the pre-pro and then connect the height preouts to amp channels so I don't need splitter cables? I prefer a room full of sound all the time where i'm in the center of it with music and if I decide to watch a movie, I can swap the cables and change the settings back. With surround movies, most of the time, the surround speakers just stay dormant until their called upon and with music, there off.
Most home theater receivers have an all channel mode you should be able to engage. Thanks for watching
Sr8015 pure direct with monolith x7 sounds fantastic in 2 channel
Thanks for sharing!
Im kinda new to this . My Marantz SR6015 has the option called "Pure Direct".
Is that doing a bypass?
I have the sr7011. Pure Direct just basically eliminates all the noise from internal sources to give you a flatter response. That's why you'll see it even turns off the led panel when you apply it. Not the same thing as a bypass.
Use the pre outs in your Marantz to connect to a dedicated 2ch
What @bootneylee9802 said is correct.
I wanted to do something like this with my Emotiva USP-1, but my darn Denon doesn't have a pre-out. (I was a first-time buyer and didn't know any better.) I sold the unit a few months ago, and now I don't have any AV Receivers. I'm looking forward to getting a new Denon or Marantz AVR for movie and stereo music listening.
I am still considering the Denon X4800H or the Marantz Cinema 50/40. Does anyone have any other suggestions?
Reach out to our team of experts at audioadvice.com and they can help you make the best choice for your setup!
oh man...... My denon had no pre-outs and wanted more power. I bought the monolith 7x and "Russound ADP-1.2 Speaker-level to Line-level Adapters". I connected pos and neg speaker wire from Denon terminals to adapter, then 1 rca cable from adapter to the desired amp RCA input, then Pos and neg speaker wire from amp terminals to speaker like normal. They work great and one 40$ adapter works for 2 channels. You can use this HUGE HACK on almost any old receiver without Pre-outs provided you have a seperate amp with RCA inputs and dont have to buy a 800$-1000$ AVR. Of course AVR's with enough pre-outs for future upgrades costs $$$$$. They got me haha I eventually caved and got a pre-pro
@@stevem2245 😂 I have finally got my X4800H
lets say you have Dirac on you avr and a separate high end integrated amp. You connect them together. You activate the ht bypass on your integrated. You cannot enjoy the benefits of Dirac right?
That is correct. For 2 channel sources you would not get Dirac. Thanks for watching
So I take it that the onkyo rz50 is not good enough to run as stereo only with all processing turned off?
We used it for illustrative purposes. But yes, if you are playing your 2 channel through something like a McIntosh integrated amp or separates, those will be far better.
I am using Samsung tv and connected to fire stick converted to Android TV but sound is not coming to home theatre boxs coming in tv
We are not familiar with that issue. We recommend reaching out to Samsung or Amazon about the TV or Firestick.
How about triggers? Most AVRs/AVCs uses 12v mono triggers where as the Mcintosh uses stereo triggers. What can we do?
Reach out to our team of experts to discuss the best options! Audioadvice.com
I just wish there was a way to maintain bit perfect from HD surround sound formats via PCM. It all gets changed to 48 khz once it's down mixed to stereo. I own the MAC7200 and nice stereo components and don't want surround sound speakers. I wish the McIntosh DA1 Dac or any others would process surround sound and output lossless stereo, to put it as plainly as I can haha.
Well, you are in luck. We love the McIntosh design with their DAC's. The new DA2 does exactly what you want and can simply replace your DA1. Please reach out to our team at www.audioadvice.com to learn more.
@@AudioAdvice Thanks I didn't realize the da2 was capable of this!
I have an RZ50 and a Technics SU-G700 connected. Amazing for music and movies but like you said subs can be a bit of a hassle. I like to play music with my SVS sub and found the best solution to be a small RCA switch box. All I gotta do is switch between sources on the box, no cable swapping needed. I do wish it had wireless controls as the sub switching is the only thing I can't do from a remote
Which 'switch' did you end up using ? Schiit SYS ?
@@ptg01 random little metal box with a dial switch from Amazon. As it just needs to switch between sources there should not be any loss in fidelity. As it is just handling the low end of the audio spectrum I am not too worried about it negatively affecting the output. I've measured it with a calibrated mic in Dirac and saw no change in output using the RCA switch or not.
Thanks for sharing! That seems like it works well for you!
HT bypass input is same as a two channel's pre-amp in ?
Yes
@@andrzejz6980 That seems logical to me ! I wonder why the new branding? So.... feed the HT receiver's front left & front right channels RCA out's into two channel's Pre-IN and control the volume through HT's volume control ??
What are you referring to when you say "a two channel's pre-amp in"?
The HT bypass setting disables the volume control on the pre-amp, so that you can control the volume exclusively with your receiver. It simply passes the signal through the pre-amp. That's why some pre-amps refer to it as "pass through."
Aha. Thanks for the explanation. Now I get it.
@@benrub Output from HT Receiver's left and right front channel INTO the two channel (stereo system) Pre-IN input. In this scenario, volume control is performed solely through the HT receiver.
I honestly think the notion that AVRs are somehow lacking for stereo listening is archaic. Even there, if you think amplification is insufficient (which it very rarely will be) you can just buy a two-channel power amp and put that power amp between the receiver and the front stereo pair and use that all the time for HT and audio both.
Some are very good, but many are not in comparison to good separates.
Maybe buy a premium AV and pair with a mighty AMP and source all power to amp? You get a dedicated AMP and that is all it does and unless you get a very expensive 2 channel AV, a dedicated premium AMP will crush any integrated all day including Sunday and you have flexibility. That is what most people do.
Many people go that way, but for a lot of two channel puriests, there are better integrated amps and preamps than the best AVR. However, in a dedicated home theater room the better power amp is the best way to go. Thanks for watching
left and right but what about sub bypass?
You have a few options that that we mentioned. Feel free to call or chat with our experts at audioadvice.com if you're looking for how to do this.
I bought Yamaha Avantage to 'bypass' those troubles.
Thanks for sharing
I use zone 2 for my tube preamp. Who says it has to be a separate room.
Cool! Thanks for sharing!
But then you need an ekstra set of speakers ?
@@marckrasmussen7697 I have two amps one for home theater. The other for the tube preamp. I use an a b selector. Zone 2 works out great for the sub woofer I use the main channel for sub bass management. I have the sub dialed in works very well.
@@marckrasmussen7697 i just switch speaker wire. It's eazy the speakers are far from the wall.
Why not just add a power amplifier instead?
You could add one to an AVR or prepro. However some people have a really good integrated amp or separates and care more about 2 channel than theater and just want a more basic theater. The bypass is perfect for that type of scenario. Especially if they are into old vinyl and want to keep that a pure analog path. Thanks for watching
I have a Denon AVR3000 from 1992 that has the ByPass mode. Not a new concept.
That is more of a processor bypass which does improve the sound, but we are talking about driving your main speakers with something far better
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Homeowners request. We typically stay away or use a mount that lowers the TV. Thanks for watching 😁
Lifting the amp to demonstrate its weight 😂
You don't want to drop that amp on your toe 😉
If you have the budget for McIntosh why on earth would you not have separates? This is a foolish setup. Purchase a high quality pre-pro, separate Mc amps, and speakers. If you want to stream music get either the Rose or Eversolo and a separate DAC... Done. You all are making this way to complicated.
The same method applies to a prepro for home theater bypass. That is what we were trying to explain. You would not be done with your suggestions as there would be no home theater system. That is the point we were trying to get across on how to combine a high quality two channel system (pick your choices) and a home theater.