Here is the link on eBay if anyone is interested www.ebay.com/itm/Russound-ADP-1-2-Speaker-Level-to-Line-Level-Adapter-/193137291271?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l6249&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0
Hi fella, I have a question please? Can I connect my integrated amplifier Denon PMA-A110(no pre out) to the preamp Denon PRA-1500(pre oot yes) in the same way with this adapter so that I can use the preamp to connect my power amplifier Denon POA-2800 which I want to drive my speakers JBL L100 CLASSIC MK2? Thank you in advance! Best regards!
@@georgiungoryanov7371 you might be able to connect it that way. I have heard some people have connected two receivers together this way so it’s possible but I can’t say for sure because I’ve never tried it.
Take it from a noob like me. It works. I was about to spend easily over 1500 until I watched this simply cuz cuz my AVR didnt have preouts and was lacking power. I spent 100 on the russound adapters, 15$ for RCA's used spare speaker wire, and simply used my existing Denon reciever. I bought a monolith amp and the sound is 10x better than just the AVR. It crazy that your vids are pretty much the only ones on RUclips explaining this
@@johnhighfield5064 the quality of your amplifier and receiver will determine your sound quality. Of course speakers too. But i feel most people have a decent receiver and just want more power so it doesn’t change the sound quality so much as it does add more heightened details. Hope that helps, thanks for watching
@@Audiolympian thanks for your video. I have a Denon Dnp-800ne network streamer with variable rca output where I can control the volume output on remote. I got a Behringer A800 amp and connected the variable rca output from the streamer to the rca input of the Behringer A800. The sound is pure and linear but want to use my Denon pma-800 amp as preamp as it has bass and treble control as well as the phono MC that I use for my vinyl player. The streamer gives 4volt max output rms on the variable output What voltage will the speaker to line level give?
I have one of these adapters because I wanted to add an external amp to a 2 channel stereo receiver and I tell you what it is one of the best things I've ever purchased in my life. Matter of fact it was your original video that helped me make that decision. Thanks!!!
@@kellywatkins6409 I'm using a Crown XLI 1500 and I have it putting out about 145 watts per channel in 8 ohms. I don't think it would have any issue with the 250 watts. I may even be pushing a little less than that to be honest to avoid ear fatigue.
Thank you for helping us with this component. You have saved me lots of money. My Sony Receiver STR AN1000 does not have preouts and it was struggling to drive my Klipsch 806FA 150watt speakers. Using this I connected my Crown 1502 power amplifier between my receiver and speaker, and it is working like a charm. I can hear sounds which did not exist earlier.
I also have the STR AN1000 and want to add a power amp. Do you know if you can use the Zone 3 output as a pre out? I’m only running 2 channels. Or is this the best solution? Thanks.
Been using these in the car audio world for years so you could use the car's original head unit (that didn't have low outs) when adding amps. I also used it for an Onkyo TX8511 receiver. Worked great but it did change the sound slightly and the single sent to the amp was a little hot. The issue is that these hi to low outputs are not made for a lot of power. The Onkyo I used it on had 120 watts per channel which is a little out of its power range and why it was a bit hot. As I said these were made so the factory radios in a car could stay not screwing up the dash with a new head unit. Most factory radios are lucky to be 40 watts that are in its range. Just watch how much power you put into the Russo and you will be fine. There are other hi to low converter makers out there but be careful some have extremely low watt numbers that they can handle.
I have a Yamaha 5.1 made in circa 2005. I love it and the sound fields/processor that it has. Sounds great. And I recently purchased a set of Fluance signature series bookshelf speakers and they really good! (Along with Sony sawm 40 sub) Niw when I crank the volume up in the higher “rocking out level 11” the speakers seem to ever so slightly distort. So I’m probably going to invest into a Emotiva BasX A2 channel power amp. This video greatly helped me out on my decision whether to me me old Yamaha receiver. Thanks a million. Eventually I may go with incorporating Yamahas WXC-50 but until then, my smart tv has done an excellent job of acting as a streamer. And the rest I just listen to cds and tapes/vinyl records. I’m just a 2.1 kinda guy. Thanks again cheers 🍺 from Houston
2.1 systems I think are underrated. I use one myself. Glad to have helped your decision making process. Thanks for watching and commenting. I love Houston. I have lots of family there. Can’t wait to go back.
Thank you fella!Very kind of you! You saved me a lot of money and worries.I connected my integrated amplifier Denon PMA-A110 with my power amplifier Denon POA-2800 to drive on max my speakers JBL L100 CLASSIC MK2.I hate my neighbors!😅 I do appreciate it!Your video is very helpful! Best wishes!
@@edwinrijos6679 I did. On my initial set up I used cheap weak wires. But then I switched to better quality rca cables the hum went away. Could also be some interference on the power line. Hope that helps
Quite new to this hobby. Was looking for an answer to connect my AVR without a centre pre-out to my soon to purchase emotiva basx A3. Answered it perfectly. Thank you.
Wow you are saving people TONS if money with this hack. Get a cheap receiver with all the up to date Decoders/Formats + nice amp and you’re off to the races!
My reciever is ok with 8 and 6 ohms. Im looking at some 4ohm towers. Im curious if i can take those fronts out to the adapter, and have an amp supply 4ohms without messing with the receiver? I was hoping it would all fall on the added amp. what do you think?
@Audiolympian awesome thank you so much! im surprised therent sleeker looking adapters with cover for this exact application. Id love to get better fronts that are 4 ohm without an entire new receiver. Is sound distribution for dolby playback unaffected with this adapter, like for L and R fronts?
@ yes, completely unaffected. I agree that there should be something out there with more eye appeal. Honestly I was thinking of making and selling some myself.
So my question is if you use this adapter and power your speakers with power amplifiers will your preset eq settings built into the receiver work correctly? The problem I’m running into is the receiver I have also doesn’t have pre outs but has a zone 2 out so I am able to use my power amp to drive 2 speakers but they sound so different because all my other speakers I can change the built in eq settings (rock pop ect) but zone 2 never changes.
Ah I see your dilemma. So, using this adapter takes the speaker signal that has already passed through the receiver’s decoder and bitrate, allowing the amp to enhance your power output. If you were to go back to your receiver’s menu and make sound adjustments it would work like normal. The only difference I would say that would be there is the speakers that are connected to the amp would be louder. But the timber would be matched. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
@@markriggall6710 it will control the sound volume of both the avr and amp. But I’ve never had an issue or distortion if the volume on the avr is high. Hope that answers your question
I would like to purchase these adaptors for my new Sony AR and old Kenwood Amp/EQ; question: my L/R speakers to not have RCA inputs; only speaker wire. Do I need 2 adaptors; one for in to amp, one for out to the speakers? Thanks again!
@@OliverDirks that’s ok if your speakers don’t have rca connections. One adapter is for two speakers. So if you’re only connecting 2 speakers then one adapter is fine. Hope that helps and thanks for watching
Doesn't Zone 2 have pre-out or line level output that you could use? I realize that you are demonstrating the functionality of the product, but it may be a good idea to say "ingore" zone 2 for this demonstration.
If your receiver has a headphone jack, you can use that as a pre-out. So, the cable you'd need, is a phono plug (headphone plug) to RCA. It's not "clean" looking but, it 100% works. You just need to remember to disable your selected speakers on the receiver.
I know this is an older video. Anyone interested can build one of these and make it less bulky. Take a short length of speaker wire. Connect the positive lead to one leg of a 1w 3.9k ohm resistor and another short wire from the other leg to the positive connection of a female RCA connector (solder or screw terminal style). Do the same for the negative lead except using a 1/2w 430 ohm resistor with the other leg going to the negative terminal of the same RCA connector. 2 resistors (1 per lead) of differing resistance. Solder the speaker wires to the resistors. Then, you can shrink tube the resistors and joints or wrap with electrical tape or tessa tape. Plug in your rca cable to the diy connector. Connect the exposed speaker lead to your speaker output of your receiver. No need for a bulky plate. You could make 5 or 7 of these for %10 or so combined. I had to pause the video to read the resistors and see how they are connected. Wire > resistor > rca connector. The parts are cheap on Amazon or other sites online. I hope this helps.
Hi, if i have a 7.1 receiver but only want to power the 2 front speakers, do still have to hook up 3 adapters? at 10:45 you say " now if you have a 5.1 or 7.1 you will need 3 adapters". I ordered 1 adapter just now from crutchfield. I will see how it goes. I am hoping I don't have to buy 3 adapters to just get it to work on a 7.1 receiver, because then I am spending $120 basically for 3 adapters...might as well just use that money towards a new receiver with preouts.
Yes that will work fine. One adapter for just the 2 speakers works fine. If that’s all you want to do is power front mains. What I meant is if you wanted all 5 channels connected to an external amp then you would need 3 adapters.
One con would probably be having another device in the chain that could pick up interference. Maybe another would be the device could burn out after so long although I’ve never had a problem with mine and I’ve had them for a few years now. Hope that answers your question. Thanks for watching
Can I turn the amp to max and the receiver low, so that it actually uses less power for the front speakers and has more reserve for the other ones, or do these adapters only work properly, if the high level input is as strong as it would be if you connected the speaker directly to the receiver?
@@mohe81 good question. If your amp has controls such as volume and output level. Yea you can do that. Because once the signal reaches the amp, from there it’s now in the hands of the amp. So however the amp performs is how the signal will flow. Thanks for the question and for watching
Hi, thanks for the video! I assume that, with the adapter in between, I can run my NAD C315BEE, which does not have a pre-out, into the line-in of my LOEWE Klang 1 Sub? Any enclosure available separately for the adapter? Cheers, Moritz
I haven’t tried using it with a sub but it should work. I haven’t found any specific enclosures or housings for the adapter but I used one from partsexpress.com. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
These could also be used to hook up a subwoofer to a receiver lacking a sub out or high level inputs. You'd probably have to sacrifice the "B channel" on the receiver/integrated amplifier.
Thank you! I am being given a Sony stereo amplifier. I have a Sony 5.1 AVR and it seems it is not putting the power out on the front left and right channels, but the center is plenty loud. My AVR does not have pre-amp outs though. Is this modification going to lessen the demand on the AVR amplifier? Can I leave the center channel on the AVR or should I try and run it off the stereo amp? It does have a zone A and B that you can run at the same time and some people do two stereo sets or have that send the signal a sub because this stereo receiver is technically a 2.0 not a 2.1. Can I leave the Sub on the AVR? Do you leave your amplifier volume control to max and then control master volume via AVR only?
Hey @nathanaelcole8466 thanks for the questions. So no this set up will not lessen the load of the receiver because it uses the existing signal after output. You can leave the center on the receiver but it will have lesser volume than the speakers connected to the amp. But if it’s very noticeable or not will depend on your amp. For example I use a sun fire amp with 200 watts per channel and my center channel is just connected to my receiver and the difference of sound is noticeable but not unbearable, for me anyway. Also my amps don’t have volume controls but if the did I’d have them all the way up and use the receiver for sound controls. And yes leave your sub on the receiver, as long as it’s a self powered sub. If it’s a passive sub then you may want to connect to an amp. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
You're the man! Thank you for the quick and thorough answers. I ordered one and will have my new stereo later tonight to start messing around with. @@Audiolympian
It’s about time you made a video that shows the proper way to hook it up the first video was ridiculous. It was just you showing off your sound system and all the toys you have that video didn’t help us at all.. this is the proper way to make a video about that. Thank you you get a thumbs up.👍👍👍👍 that’s all we want to know.
Haha. Sorry about that in the first video. You’re not the first person to tell me that. When I made that video my channel was still quite small very few subscribers, so I was still trying to attract viewers and I didn’t think that many people out there would be that interested in the adapter. Not too long after people were asking me questions about it. That’s when I decided to make another video on it. Hope it helped you out. Thanks for watching
@@BrettGlass it depends on the receiver, usually the ones that have a line out output is used for a record player if it doesn’t have a dedicated phono output. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
You definitely could try it but I think the capacitors, resistors and diodes play an important role in transferring the signal so it doesn’t have too much noise distortion. But it certainly could work as a quick solution. Thanks for watching
Was so excited but it didn't last. Hooked everything up and it worked great for a moment and man did the amp make a difference. But every time there was a Surg in loudness in whatever I was watching the receiver would shut off and go into power save mode. This happened at least 4 times. Thanks for the video it was worth a try.
Great great video. Question in a 5.2.2 set up can I leave the atoms speakers connected to the receiver while diverting to surrounds center and Fronts to the power amp.
Ok I recently bought Bose 901speakers and it has an active equalizer to be used with it, question what’s the difference of that with a typical equalizer in relation to the 901s ?? I have a Yamaha HTR 5630 but it has no pre amp in or outs OR tape monitor in and out, how do I correctly connect the active equalizer to where every thing I may connect to receiver benefits from the equalizer ?? It does have an MD/CD-R in and out as well as VCR in and out and others, what do I do ?? Thanks
Ok this is a good challenging question. First off I believe the equalizer for the Bose should have a section for amplifier input. So according to your Yamaha that doesn’t have preouts you definitely will need the adapter to connect them. Now, I be never used those speakers before so I’m not sure if they can hook up directly without the equalizer. If it can and you choose not to use the equalizer you would possibly still need an amplifier to power them properly as I know those speakers do need some juice. Now to answer you other question about the difference of the Bose equalizer and others. Think of the Bose equalizer as a specific crossover unit made just for those speakers. Could you use another equalizer?. maybe, but it’s probably not going to control the sound the way it’s intended. I’ve know the 901’s to be great speakers but I’ve also heard they are fussy and need to have the right settings to reach potential. Hope that helps. If you have any other questions feel free to ask. Thanks for watching
Zone 2 has pre-outs...but if you you get a decent receiver to begin with or upgrade, it would probably output comparable power (or possibly more) to the Emotiva XPA 200...but the Emotiva is also only $500...Your receiver is the heart of your entertainment system...everything runs through it, so it's best to start with a nice one and work your way out from that with the rest of the system and components...with that being said, this is still a good work around with budget restrictions
@@tombergman4506 That depends on the receiver...some give you full control of those, some only limited...since my receiver has zone 2 and 3 that can be incorporated into the surround configuration, I have full control of those outputs (Integra DTR 8.8)
I have Sony STR DH 550 AV receiver and a Yamaha MX 50 power amplifier as my subwoofer amp. I was thinking of getting a preamplifier for the power amp and dump the AV Receiver. However after watching this video I believe getting the connector and using the AV receiver as a preamp would be far better. So from the AV Receiver front speaker output jack to the connector then to the power amp would serve my purpose.
I have Pioneer VSX-932 AV receiver that I love the way is sound but only have preout for 2 subwoofer even so sound amazing , I just follow the guide from your video . I got a very good deal for a used AudioSource Amp Three 2 Channel Power Amplifier 150w pc ,hook it up and even my 3 powered subwoofer sound more vivid. My question is since the the 2 main channel on the AV receiver is now getting the juice from the power amp is ok to set in the receiver my main speaker to large instead of small since the AV receiver don't have to make any extra effort to drive my 15 inches main speaker ? Another question the main 2 speaker channel in the receiver still power up or the receiver take the main speaker power to feed with more power the other channel?
Thanks for the question. It will be fine to change your main speakers to large. That basically shares the bass response with the sub instead of solely pushing Lfe to the sub. For your second question receivers do share power loads between channels but not how we would think, it’s not an even continuous max split of power it pushes extra watts when needed like explosions and loud sounds. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
Is this changing digital to analog. This is a more come problem with car audio. They make more complex converters for car audio. Are those better. I have a denon 760 no Pre outs. I want more power to my SVS ultras left right center. Looking for quality not volume . This adapter just looks cheaply made no case. Seems like there maybe a better convter out there. I have seen some that have step down transformers for cars. Some are 4 channel. Not a lot out in utube about this conversion. I’d like to see some one hook up Pre outs then do the conversion and see if one is better.
Good question. I don’t believe it’s a converter as much as it just redirects the signal. Several people have asked about car audio converters in comparison. I think in theory a car audio one would work but I don’t know how well being car audio devices are not equipped to handle house power (120 volts, 15 amps) but that’s not to say it won’t work, I just haven’t tried it. I have been looking to get one and compare it just to see how it holds up. I also would like to find a better quality built adapter. As you said it seems kinda cheaply made, I’d say more simple but it’s pretty durable and it’s mostly for the diy’er. Thanks for watching and commenting
What I have in mind is if I want to transfer the load of the front speakers to an external amp, I’d follow your instructions, and leave the surround speakers on the receiver. That should get some load off of the receiver, right?
I bought one of these last year and saved it in the box never used until I got my emotiva basX amp today. I hooked everything up and the left channel(speaker) has a very very faint buzzing noise with 0 sound when playing anything. The right channel(speaker) works perfectly fine. Again I’ve checked every wire and every connection. I believe it’s the adpater and I must buy another. Any thoughts? Thanks.
Amps usually have a slight buzz sound when connecting. It comes from the transformer inside. It’s usually caused by some grounding issue on the power line. They can be a pain to try and get rid of completely. You could get another adapter and see if that works if not it’s your amp not that there is anything wrong with your amp again just a grounding issue. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching and commenting
Does it have a level control?? Think that ur amp can push 80w and the line out converter is capable of delivering pure audio to the rca without over power music.. Then my receiver is delivering 150w and i am connecting that l.o.c for my receiver, then will my music overpowered to the rca and cause clipping or distortion. Please answer me.. becz all the car audio loc has a level control...
The device does not have a level control, but that’s because all the control and adjustments can be done from the receiver. Which you will need to do, to get the sound to your liking. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
@@ianjaeger4178 not sure how you can make one. I’m thinking of possibly creating a housing unit for the device and selling myself. A lot of people outside of the U.S would like one but don’t have shipping available.
Sorry for the late response. Apparently I didn’t hit send. Your question is interesting. I’m not sure if it will work, seems like it could but the adapter has specific networking to transfer the signal properly. However, you could be right. Thanks for the question and watching
Thanks for answering my question 😊I have another question 😁 is it the adapter that you use is same with hi-to- low level signal converter??😊it is with the same rca out and speaker line in connection with it..I just saw that on amazon 😊Thank you 😊
No , do not use rca directly to speaker output and connect it to power amp , you will certainly destroy your power amp, this adaptor has resistors connected between rca and signal coming out of receiver so it is safe for power amp. Early in my years i have done this mistake with a car audio, connected the old radio from car directly to an amplifier trough the speakers output and destroyed the power transistors inside amplifier.
@@thomasboone2657 you only can if the receiver has the proper inputs. Connecting an equalizer is tricky because it doesn’t just connect between the receiver and speakers it has to loop. But it will only be in stereo as well. I’m doing a video on that topic now. Thanks for watching
So I tried doing this to my onkyo 6500 and when I turned on the marantz amp to my 6500 it came across check amp and the did a checking speaker wire test and finally shut down...I tried it again with a nero 3 channel amp and again same thing and shut down. Any ideas?
Hmmmm. Sorry to hear that. Could have gotten a defective adapter. I’d try using a different outlet and perhaps different interconnect and different power cord if possible. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
So- you need this sort of devise cause if you go directly from a Speaker wire to a Power amp (Input) it Humms right? Exactaly what I was lookin for..thanks
Good question. I would think you can use it with tv audio as well, as long as the tv has speaker output terminals. But I haven’t tried it. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
@@Audiolympian Thank you so much .Yes the right and left but also there are adapters for other audio output to right and left.As the adapter you mentioned in your video.
I have a powered sub with high level lines. There’s 4 cables though a pair of + - and only 1 subwoofer… I’m confused on why it needs two pair of wires rather than one. How and where do I connect them to the receiver?
The high level line connections are there in case the receiver doesn’t have a sub preout. The two pairs of wire connections are for connecting the front main speakers, so when a receiver doesn’t have a sub preout you would connect the main speakers wires from the receiver to the sub and then from the sub to the main speakers. If that makes sense for you. However, if both your receiver and subwoofer have the dedicated sub connection you can just use that and not worry about anything else. Hope that helps, thanks for watching
@@Audiolympian was mainly confused on why there’s 4 connections for 1 driver, but I believe Google answered me. It’s because it has a dual voice coil I I think… I’m Using a denon 750h which has 2 sub preouts that take a single (rca?) each. subwoofer I’m trying to use is a 10 inch powered car sub. Which works because I’ve hooked it up to a tv before. (I’m just trying to get an idea on what size I need to get) Anyway, I tried connecting it by splicing the lines on the sub to an rca line, but gave zero signal. So connecting the 4 speaker wires from the sub to the L & R fronts of the receiver should work?
@@Audiolympian and thank you very much for the reply. I’m building this for my mother as her system broke. It’s costing me damn near every dollar I have but I want it it to sound fantastic.. she just retired from singing in a classic rock cover band, after 30+ years. And she’s wants to crank it to 11 and fucking jam lol
@@LikelyLagging gotcha. Yes just run the speaker cables from the receiver into the sub then from the sub to the main speakers. Dual voice coil is referring to the motor structure of the driver. Which most subs have a dual voice coil to push the power.
@@corytodd1690 good question. It doesn’t necessarily give more headroom to the other speakers because it just re-routes the actual signal but every receiver is designed to do that automatically. Some do it better than others. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
@Audiolympian I guess what I'm asking is since its not powering those two speakers does it improve the power available to the other ones. Sorry if this is what you just answered
@@corytodd1690 no problem. The way the device works, is you take speaker wire from the receiver and connect it to the device. Because of that you are still using the power of the receiver. So essentially you could say you are doubling up on the wattage of the front main speakers. For example if the receiver is 75 wpc and you connect a 50 wpc amp this way, it’s now 125 wpc on the front channels. You don’t bypass the amplification in the receiver. Now, if the receiver has preouts and you connect the amp to the receiver’s preouts then you would bypass the receiver’s amp section and now are using and external power source for amplification and leaving extra headroom for the other channels because the main channels are not being powered by the internal power supply. Hope that makes sense.
Hi, can I use my Subwoofer PreOut in Yamaha AVR RXV477 to pass signal to Schiit DAC > Preamplifer > Power Amplifier > Speakers. This way, I will be able to use my AVR as a streaming transport for Apple Airplay?
You certainly can try it however I don’t think it would work because the subwoofer preout is just going to pass an LFE signal not a full range signal. Thanks for watching
Yes. Essentially it does turn the receiver to a preamp. You might be able to rig it up so you could use bare wire to the amp but the adapter has resistors and filters so it’s a safer connection. But anything is possible too. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
@@Audiolympian I was about to buy 2 125w Marantz monoblocks.Thought was to combine my Yamaha 125w per making combined 250w per channel. Speaker out into amp via RCA.
Hello! I dont know anything about preamps, or so, Now I have hometheater AVR at home, hooked up with my 5.2 channel speakers. But I do have a second older 5.2 channel AVR as well that I am not using anymore. Now I wonder, can I use the second hometheater AVR as a amplifiers for my left and right channel only? Like: left and right speaker channel out from receiver 1, to adapter (in this video) to let say BD RCA input on receiver 2. And then left and right speaker output to my left and right speakers.
Theoretically yes it can work the way you describe however, I’ve never done it so I can’t say for certain but I have known people in the past use a second receiver to power speakers. You may have to go in the receiver’s settings and adjust things but overall it should work. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
Could you hook up a headphone tube amplifier to the Onkyo RCA ins? I want to drive a set of zone 2 speakers with my tube amp to the Onkyo NR7100. My thinking was RCA out on the tubes to cd (RCA) ins, volume control would be both....
In theory I think your idea would work, the problems you may run into would be the actual output and the which in theory you need an output source and an input source for a system to work. In your set up idea you have and output to an input/output. But you certainly could try it. Sorry I couldn’t give you a better answer
@@Audiolympian The music source would be digital out from a hard drive (PC) to a dac, the dac output to the tubed headphone amp, the headphone amp to the onkyo cd input, onkyo out to zone 2 speakers.
Thanks for the vidéo, I just have a question, do you need tu put one on all channels or (for a 7.2 setup) can you just use it for the FL and FR..? And what about sound ? If doing only 2 speakers out of the 7 doesn’t it make them too loud compared to the rest ? Thanks for the reply !
No you don’t have to run all you channels through the adapter, you can use it on just your Front main speakers. As far as sound that will depend on your amp. But yes it will most likely be louder on the fronts if those are getting power form an external amp. I have my current set up as a 5.1 but only 3 adapters for my center and fronts. They’re louder but I am closer to my rear speakers so it’s not a total mismatch. Thanks for watching and the question.
I have a denon receiver with two zones. I want to add additional speakers in my backyard pool but be able to play the same music as where my receiver is located. I don't have the preouts on my reciever. Can I do whay you did in the video and connect the receiver to a whole home amplifier to be able to play the same music on my addional speakers and do you think they will be a delay between the music inside and outside the house by doing so?
It should work as long as your home amplifier has the additional channels. As far as a delay in sound, that would depend on the distance, which could be adjusted by the receiver. Other than that I don’t think there would be a delay. Hope that helps and thanks for watching
Thanks. If you only want to use one channel just use one side of the device. That’s how I use it for my 5 channel set up. 3 devices = 2 left channels, 2 right channels and one center. The cool thing is you have an extra input for the future if you want to add another speaker. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
@Audiolympian, thank you so much for this video but am still confused. I bought the Russound but still don't know what to do. I currently have a Marantz Cinema 70s so would want to use the pre outs to power my LR with another AVR (Sony Mutiki STR KM7, 7.1),they don't come with pre outs. So I have the RCA Cables coming from the Pre outs of the Marantz to the pre outs part of the adapter, so what do I connect to the speaker wire part of the adapter, is it the speakers wire directly for the speakers or the speaker wires goes to the Sony AVR? Not sure, confused
No problem my friend. Happy to help. You take the actual speaker wire from your marantz to the speaker wire inputs on the adapter. Then you connect your rca cables from the adapter to your amplifier. Then your speakers connect to your amp.
@@Audiolympian thank you so much but where on the Sony Amplifier(AVR)? don't forget there are no Pre outs on the Sony. Do I connect the RCA Cables to the Sony Amp/AVR and where do I connect the speakers on the Amp/AVR.
@@chumaiwugoh2964 if you are trying to use and avr to power your LF speakers, the Sony needs to have RCA INPUTS in order to use the signal. If your AVR doesn’t have the inputs then it may not work. But you could try connecting to the cd input or possibly Aux input on the sony. Hope that helps
@@Audiolympian yes, to spread the load. LR Channels on the Sony (including the subs because my subs are passive). 50watts per channel from the Marantz I think is abit low, need to always crank it up to much..
Hi I have a den in AVR - S54BT and I want to add an external an external amplifier to it but I have no idea which one would be the best I want to add about 6 more speakers to it do it I already have 4 on it
Not sure what your question is. Using this device doesn’t add more speakers to your set up it just adds more power to it. So if you’re asking which amplifier? Really depends on your budget. But I’d recommend emotiva or monolith. Thanks for watching
Please help me with some advise.. Is the adapter realy needed.. I can't get this adapter where I am. What if you use Speaker wire to RCA with no adapter.. Would that still work or are there any down sides. I have a Denon X-2700H with no pre out. Want to add a additional amplifier to my 5.1.2 system.. Any advise would be appreciated
Others have asked that. I really don’t know. All I can say is the adapter uses capacitors, diodes and rectifiers. So I’m guessing they have something to do with the signal transfer so without those it may not transfer the signal properly. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
Are those like line level / high to low level adapter used in car stereos to add a power amp to a factory stereo without preouts? Same concept.. I have a Onkyo NR 686 that don’t have preouts .. It has Bluetooth an Wi fi
Yes the same thing. The only difference is these are designed to handle 120v the car devices are designed for 12v. I’ve thought about getting and auto line level and. Trying it in the house just to see if it would work but those take a hot, ground and neutral intake and I’m not an electrical engineer. Thanks for watching
Thanks. I did when I first connected multiple devices. Until I screwed them on a wood plank and kept them stable and added a cover to it. Now, no problems at all. Thanks for watching
I'm not quite comfortable with this. As I understand it, the adapters do not present a reactive load to the output stage of the (pre)amp. This load would have to match the preamp specs (correct ohms). Otherwise you will damage the output stage over time. Basically the same thing as with guitar amp slaving. Or am I missing something?
In theory you’re correct as I thought the same thing. The adapter is measurable down to 4 ohms, my receiver is compatible with 8, 6 and 4 ohms. So far it hasn’t had any issues. I’ve been quite surprised and satisfied with it. Thanks for watching and commenting
Hey... I have two active studio monitors which I want to connect to an AVR (without pre out). Is this converter really safe? I mean will they blow out my active speakers if this converter fail?
I can’t say for sure that you’re equipment is 100% safe but I can say all the adapter does is reroute the signal. So it doesn’t add extra power or gain at all. If it fails then the signal stops. I also would say it would be pretty hard to make the adapter fail as it’s just a few caps and resistors and a pcb. Again it doesn’t need power or have transformers so I’d say it’s pretty safe. I’ve been using mine for about 3 years now and no issues. Hope that helps, thanks for watching
I have a good question for ya- I listen to "all channel stereo" often for music on my 7.2.2 setup. Would adding a second amp for the front two tower speakers be a smart move... considering they are capable of much more power?
Good question. So here are some factors that will determine if you’ll hear a difference. Amount of power from the amp, room size, distance from the speakers. You probably won’t notice much if your in a medium size room that’s a bit open and you not too close to any specific speakers. Smaller closed room, yes you’ll hear a difference. Now for amp power, you may not notice a big difference at 100 watts. But 150 watts you should notice a difference and 200 and above you’ll definitely notice a difference. Also depending on your receiver you can adjust the db levels of each speaker as well. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
I have another question.....Will I still be able to adjust the speaker settings in the reciever to fine tune the treble and vocals if hooked up like this to an external amplifier?.
Thanks for the excellent video. Do you know where I can find a small case for this? I am only getting one and I'd like to cover it up. Don't know why they couldn't just put it in a simple case.
I have a Paradigm PDR-10 v2 subwoofer, and a JVC-RX-517V. What would be the best way to connect this subwoofer, if I have front speakers, and surround sound speakers? The subwoofer has a low level input, and a right/lift red/black speaker level input. The receiver does not have a subwoofer pre out, or a line level output for a subwoofer. It has speakers 1 and 2 line level outputs(not A and B), a center channel out, and surround sound speaker line outs. Could I hook both the subwoofer and fronts in the same ports on the receiver, or would connecting with the surrounds work better?
I would connect the subwoofer using the high level inputs (the red and black inputs) on the back of the sub. So you would take speaker wire from your receiver (front, left and right) and connect them to the red and black speaker input on the sub. Then take another set of speaker wires from your sub’s speaker output to your front main speakers. That will power up you sub when you turn on your receiver. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching.
I have the Denon 760H recently bought it from Costco 7.2.It does not have pre outs. How can I add extra speakers to the receiver. If I buy an amp and this connector can I able to add speakers for a 7.2.4 system. Can I do parallel speaker wire connections to the existing speaker out in the receiver,one going to speaker and the other going to this connector then to amp and from amp to the extra speakers needed ?
Yes you can do that but keep in mind the extra channels won’t be dedicated channels for a true 11 speaker set up it would still just be 7 channels split up because the receiver is designed for 7 channel output decoding. So basically which ever channels you parallel will have the exact same sound coming from both speakers. But at the very least it would give you more sound through more speakers. Hope that helps and thanks for watching
Question: own a vintage Marantz 1060 integrated amplifier that has pre-outs and an Onkyo TX-8511 Receiver that does not have pre-outs. Could I connect these together and would there be any advantage? I am using JBL Studio 230 for speakers. Thanks,
You could connect them but I’m not sure there would be any advantage to it being yours marantz probably has better voltage than your onkyo even if the wattage is lower. However you can always give it a shot and see if it works. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
@@Audiolympian when connected separately, the Marantz has much better sound than the Onkyo. However, I thought with more power pushing through I was hoping for better sound. Exactly how would I do this? Would I go from the pre-out from the Marantz to what in the Onkyo?
More power doesn’t always mean better sound. The onkyo could change the sound in a way you may not like. It is a tricky connect being the output of the marantz would maybe go into an auxiliary input or maybe the cd input of the onkyo. But not sure if the signals will pass properly. In theory it should but not sure. I’ve never done that.
@@Audiolympian OK thanks maybe I should just let that pass. I thought maybe since I already owned it I could put it to good use. It’s basically just sitting there collecting dust. I believe I purchased it in the late 90s when my Marantz went on the blink. After a few years I decided to get the Marantz repaired and I’m glad I did because it really does sound much better than the Onkyo. I guess I should come up with another solution.
any tips for a dual reciver setup one for bass and one for normal sounds and such cause i have a pioner from 1997 thats getting real tired what should i buy thats in a good price range and yeah cause it gets to hot to play for long amounts of time so i had to use a pc fan on it any recomendations ?
Mostly depends on budget. But I usually try to give options between the $300 - $700 price ranges. Also keep in mind any recommendation might be able to be found on aftermarket sites which could mean a little lower price. Depending on your set up (stereo or surround) but any current pioneer, denon, marantz or Yamaha. Receivers are really good today and come with a lot of options. Entry and mid level products tend not to come with a lot of actual power, maybe 80 wpc. But good enough to get the job done. And of course the bigger the budget, the higher up the scale, the more bells and whistles along with more power. As far as two receiver set ups, not much to recommend other than a more modern subwoofer that comes with a wireless app for more control such as SVS or paradigm. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
Good question, it is getting power but it’s absorbed by the more powerful amplifier. Because the amplifiers in a receiver don’t operate the same as a class ab, d or h amp. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching.
That’s been a common question lately. I can’t say for sure, seems like it would but I’m sure the capacitors, rectifiers and diodes have something to do with transferring the signal. You certainly can try just using a wire and interconnect. And see if it works. Thanks for watching
I have a 7 channel Denon AVR S960H that currenty powers/drives my 5.1 speakers (2 fronts, 1 center, 2 surrounds and 1 sub woofer) but I am considering getting an external power amp (BasX A5 power amp) for more power. Kindly help me on how to get this connected correctly, considering that I plan to hook all of the 5 speakers to the external amp while I leave the sub woofer to be driven/pushed by the AVR. Please let me know how many adapters needed as well. The Denon AVR S960H doesn't have preouts. Thank you.
Awesome project you working on. It will sound great. For what you want you’ll need 3 adapters with one of you adapters only using 1 rca output. Feel free to ask anything anytime.
Hey Riley, Kind of both. This set up doesn’t totally by pass the avr’s channels it’s more of an enhancement. So the potentiometer is on the avr but it’s sound path is going through to the amp. Which is why if you connect this device the two channels it’s connected to will be louder than the other channels. Hope that answers your question. Thanks for watching
@@Audiolympian Interesting. So what I'm trying to do is use my AVR by itself for movies, then have an amplifier connected via a line-level converter that I'll use for music (turntable). Turntable connected to AVR, line-level converter coming from my L+R speaker connections on AVR to the external amplifier, speaker wire from L+R connections on amp to an amp switch ("A" side of amp switch), then finally to speakers. Speaker wire will also be connected to L+R on AVR, leading to "B" side of amp switch. Amp switch lets me toggle between using the AVR (movies) and the AVR+amp (music). I've been using the amp switch for a while now with the AVR and amp completely seperate of each other, but I want to take advantage of the room correction software on my AVR, and I think this is the only way, unless I've made an error in my thinking. Kinda complicated, but I like the extra power for music, plus the amplifier has cool lights, haha.
@@MFRiley gotcha. So it seems like it will work the way you want I too as long as your “switchers” are basically pass through devices, which it sounds like they are. If you do it let me know how it works out. I’d be curious to hear your results. And yes amp lights are very cool 😎
@@Audiolympian Pass through it is (Solupeak P2). Figuring this all out was quite complicated as I'm not super knowledgeable about the technical side of audio. Didn't even know something like this was possible until I started digging. Audio is such a rabbit hole. Now that I'm looking into it even more, I guess I could use the external amp for both movies and music. Use it as part of my surround setup for movies. Let the amp handle some of the load of the left and right channels, and the AVR can focus more on the other channels. Would this be worthwhile, or am I splitting hairs at that point?
@@MFRiley could be splitting hairs depending on which amplifier it is and your room. Yes it is a lot and a very deep rabbit hole. My advice is take your time, research a lot but enjoy what you have and get to know it. Learn all the specs. That will give you good insight about other gear as well.
Good question. It adds because you are using the original signal coming out from the receiver however, I believe the design of the adapter using rectifiers help tone down the signal so it’s not over powered resulting in damaging speakers. Hope that helps, thanks for watching
I’ve had a few other people say the same thing. But I don’t know if anyone has done it. My only concern with a mobile device is that it’s designed for 12 volts and maybe 30 amps. Not 120v and 1500 amps. Other than that seems like it would work. Thanks for watching
How do you trigger the amp to turn on when you turn on the avr? All my equipment is in a closet so don’t want to have to open the door and then turn amp manually.
Depends on how your amp triggers. My specific amp is triggered from the rca signal others use the trigger output from the receiver. If the receiver and amp have those capabilities, some don’t and need to be turned on manually. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
I'm running 2 sets of Cerwin Vega speakers. I set is 4 ohm the other is 8 ohm. My JVC RX-888V is 4 ohm stable but has no preouts. Will adding this part change my already low ohm load and make it lower? I already have issues with it going into protection. I run a laptop cooler with 6 fans to help it stay cool but I can't lower my impedance any more.
It shouldn’t because it just redirects the already existing signal. But I suppose it would depend more on your amplifier and it’s load bearing capacity. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
@@robertholsopple9451 cool. Let me know how it works out. Others have the same concern but I haven’t heard back from many people telling me how it works out.
I will measure it after and let you know. I was also wondering how one of those cheap car audio converters would work for this purpose. There is a few that are not 12v and only have 2 set of speaker wires and a ground wire. Most of those max out at 50 watts where as this unit you have maxes out at 500 which is taylor made for big power home sterios. But for someone running under 50 watts mabe that option could work? Just a thought. My JVC RX-888V is 120 watts rms per channel so I can't use the car audio converters without blowing it up. This thing you found is the only option I found that will work for high power applications and not have to worry about noise. It's just unfortunate it doesn't have a case or gain knobs to have a bit more adjustment. I'm glad this exists though. I'll let you know the results when I get it and hook it up. Will it short if it touches metal, or cause noise? Have you tried that yet?
@@robertholsopple9451 i haven’t tried them but other people have told me they have and they said it worked well. But I don’t really what other gear they had.
@@gempak18 I’ve had a few other people tell me they have used a car audio adapter but I personally haven’t done it. My only issue I would see with it is the design is made for car voltage at 12 volts not 120. But it could work.
Here is the link on eBay if anyone is interested www.ebay.com/itm/Russound-ADP-1-2-Speaker-Level-to-Line-Level-Adapter-/193137291271?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l6249&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0
Hi fella, I have a question please?
Can I connect my integrated amplifier Denon PMA-A110(no pre out) to the preamp Denon PRA-1500(pre oot yes) in the same way with this adapter so that I can use the preamp to connect my power amplifier Denon POA-2800 which I want to drive my speakers JBL L100 CLASSIC MK2?
Thank you in advance!
Best regards!
@@georgiungoryanov7371 you might be able to connect it that way. I have heard some people have connected two receivers together this way so it’s possible but I can’t say for sure because I’ve never tried it.
@@Audiolympian ...thank you.I'll try and I ll let you know.
Best wishes!
Take it from a noob like me. It works. I was about to spend easily over 1500 until I watched this simply cuz cuz my AVR didnt have preouts and was lacking power. I spent 100 on the russound adapters, 15$ for RCA's used spare speaker wire, and simply used my existing Denon reciever. I bought a monolith amp and the sound is 10x better than just the AVR. It crazy that your vids are pretty much the only ones on RUclips explaining this
Thanks for your input. Appreciate your support and watching my vids.
Im thinking of trying this on my X-2600h, it really improved the sound that much ?
@@johnhighfield5064 the quality of your amplifier and receiver will determine your sound quality. Of course speakers too. But i feel most people have a decent receiver and just want more power so it doesn’t change the sound quality so much as it does add more heightened details. Hope that helps, thanks for watching
Great, can you please tell me which model receiver you have? I have a denon as well and also like to add an amp. Thanks.
@@Audiolympian thanks for your video.
I have a Denon Dnp-800ne network streamer with variable rca output where I can control the volume output on remote. I got a Behringer A800 amp and connected the variable rca output from the streamer to the rca input of the Behringer A800. The sound is pure and linear but want to use my Denon pma-800 amp as preamp as it has bass and treble control as well as the phono MC that I use for my vinyl player.
The streamer gives 4volt max output rms on the variable output
What voltage will the speaker to line level give?
I have one of these adapters because I wanted to add an external amp to a 2 channel stereo receiver and I tell you what it is one of the best things I've ever purchased in my life. Matter of fact it was your original video that helped me make that decision. Thanks!!!
Glad to hear it worked out for you. Thanks for watching and commenting. Appreciate the support of my channel.
How do you connect speaker wires🤔
What are these called exactly.....need to get one
How Many watts are you pushing though. Would you trust this with a 250 watt amp??
@@kellywatkins6409 I'm using a Crown XLI 1500 and I have it putting out about 145 watts per channel in 8 ohms. I don't think it would have any issue with the 250 watts. I may even be pushing a little less than that to be honest to avoid ear fatigue.
Thank you for helping us with this component. You have saved me lots of money.
My Sony Receiver STR AN1000 does not have preouts and it was struggling to drive my Klipsch 806FA 150watt speakers. Using this I connected my Crown 1502 power amplifier between my receiver and speaker, and it is working like a charm. I can hear sounds which did not exist earlier.
Glad to hear your results are working well for you. You’re welcome. Happy to help. Keep rocking!
I also have the STR AN1000 and want to add a power amp. Do you know if you can use the Zone 3 output as a pre out? I’m only running 2 channels. Or is this the best solution? Thanks.
@@jasonholtz2003 so far this has been the best solution I have found. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
I was literally looking at new avrs today as my old Onkyo tx nr 626 has no pre outs , a million thank yous. 💥👍
You’re welcome! Thanks for watching
Where did you buy the external pre-out?
@@erickurdys2873 I bought mine on eBay. Sadly the last I heard they were out of stock. Perhaps Amazon or direct through Russound. Hope that helps
And denon tried telling me there's no way to run an external amp without preouts 🤣
Thanks man 👍🏻
Haha. Thanks for watching.
Been using these in the car audio world for years so you could use the car's original head unit (that didn't have low outs) when adding amps. I also used it for an Onkyo TX8511 receiver. Worked great but it did change the sound slightly and the single sent to the amp was a little hot. The issue is that these hi to low outputs are not made for a lot of power. The Onkyo I used it on had 120 watts per channel which is a little out of its power range and why it was a bit hot. As I said these were made so the factory radios in a car could stay not screwing up the dash with a new head unit. Most factory radios are lucky to be 40 watts that are in its range. Just watch how much power you put into the Russo and you will be fine. There are other hi to low converter makers out there but be careful some have extremely low watt numbers that they can handle.
Thanks for the info. Appreciate you commenting and watching
I have a Yamaha 5.1 made in circa 2005. I love it and the sound fields/processor that it has. Sounds great. And I recently purchased a set of Fluance signature series bookshelf speakers and they really good! (Along with Sony sawm 40 sub) Niw when I crank the volume up in the higher “rocking out level 11” the speakers seem to ever so slightly distort. So I’m probably going to invest into a Emotiva BasX A2 channel power amp. This video greatly helped me out on my decision whether to me me old Yamaha receiver. Thanks a million. Eventually I may go with incorporating Yamahas WXC-50 but until then, my smart tv has done an excellent job of acting as a streamer. And the rest I just listen to cds and tapes/vinyl records. I’m just a 2.1 kinda guy. Thanks again cheers 🍺 from Houston
2.1 systems I think are underrated. I use one myself. Glad to have helped your decision making process. Thanks for watching and commenting. I love Houston. I have lots of family there. Can’t wait to go back.
My perfectly serviceable Denon i can keep thanks to your video. Added my amp and i'm getting more defined sound. Appreciate you.
Glad to hear that. Thanks for watching and commenting. Appreciate the support
Great precentation I am currently in a very similar situation you have helped me immensely
Glad to hear that. Thanks for watching
Thank you fella!Very kind of you!
You saved me a lot of money and worries.I connected my integrated amplifier Denon PMA-A110 with my power amplifier Denon POA-2800 to drive on max my speakers JBL L100 CLASSIC MK2.I hate my neighbors!😅
I do appreciate it!Your video is very helpful!
Best wishes!
@@georgiungoryanov7371 glad to have helped you out. Appreciate your kind words. Thanks for the support and for watching
Great video man, saved me from buying a more expensive receiver. Just got yourself a new subscriber.
Thanks. Appreciate the support. Thanks for watching and commenting
@@Audiolympian quick question do you get any humming noise from your set up?
@@edwinrijos6679 I did. On my initial set up I used cheap weak wires. But then I switched to better quality rca cables the hum went away. Could also be some interference on the power line. Hope that helps
Hey, it works, great sound, I hear the details, with more weight.
Glad it works for you. Thanks for watching and commenting
Quite new to this hobby. Was looking for an answer to connect my AVR without a centre pre-out to my soon to purchase emotiva basx A3. Answered it perfectly. Thank you.
You’re welcome. Thanks for watching
I'm doing the same thing. How did it turn out for you?
This video was on point… I was about to upgrade to a new av receiver. Thank you very much 👍🏿👍🏿
You’re welcome. Glad it helped you out. Thanks for watching
Wow you are saving people TONS if money with this hack. Get a cheap receiver with all the up to date Decoders/Formats + nice amp and you’re off to the races!
That’s was my hope, to help people out. Appreciate the support and thanks for watching
My reciever is ok with 8 and 6 ohms. Im looking at some 4ohm towers. Im curious if i can take those fronts out to the adapter, and have an amp supply 4ohms without messing with the receiver? I was hoping it would all fall on the added amp. what do you think?
@@seanz1232010 should be no problem. I’ve done exactly that with 4 ohm speaks plenty of times. I just made sure to use an amp that can handle 4 ohms.
@Audiolympian awesome thank you so much! im surprised therent sleeker looking adapters with cover for this exact application. Id love to get better fronts that are 4 ohm without an entire new receiver. Is sound distribution for dolby playback unaffected with this adapter, like for L and R fronts?
@ yes, completely unaffected. I agree that there should be something out there with more eye appeal. Honestly I was thinking of making and selling some myself.
So my question is if you use this adapter and power your speakers with power amplifiers will your preset eq settings built into the receiver work correctly? The problem I’m running into is the receiver I have also doesn’t have pre outs but has a zone 2 out so I am able to use my power amp to drive 2 speakers but they sound so different because all my other speakers I can change the built in eq settings (rock pop ect) but zone 2 never changes.
Ah I see your dilemma. So, using this adapter takes the speaker signal that has already passed through the receiver’s decoder and bitrate, allowing the amp to enhance your power output. If you were to go back to your receiver’s menu and make sound adjustments it would work like normal. The only difference I would say that would be there is the speakers that are connected to the amp would be louder. But the timber would be matched. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
How does the volume level of the avr affect the line input to the amp?
@@markriggall6710 it will control the sound volume of both the avr and amp. But I’ve never had an issue or distortion if the volume on the avr is high. Hope that answers your question
I presume I can do something similar if I want to amplify my lower powered 3.1 channel system into 3 x mono amps fosi za3?
@@markriggall6710 yes you should be able to.
I would like to purchase these adaptors for my new Sony AR and old Kenwood Amp/EQ; question: my L/R speakers to not have RCA inputs; only speaker wire. Do I need 2 adaptors; one for in to amp, one for out to the speakers? Thanks again!
@@OliverDirks that’s ok if your speakers don’t have rca connections. One adapter is for two speakers. So if you’re only connecting 2 speakers then one adapter is fine. Hope that helps and thanks for watching
Many thanks for this great informative video, just hooked up an Emotiva A2, sounds great
You’re welcome. Glad to help. Thanks for watching
Doesn't Zone 2 have pre-out or line level output that you could use? I realize that you are demonstrating the functionality of the product, but it may be a good idea to say "ingore" zone 2 for this demonstration.
Good tip. Yes zone 2 do have preouts but for some reason it doesn’t push amps. Idk why. And if it does it’s usually only stereo. Thanks for watching
If your receiver has a headphone jack, you can use that as a pre-out. So, the cable you'd need, is a phono plug (headphone plug) to RCA. It's not "clean" looking but, it 100% works. You just need to remember to disable your selected speakers on the receiver.
Thanks for the tip and for watching
I know this is an older video. Anyone interested can build one of these and make it less bulky. Take a short length of speaker wire. Connect the positive lead to one leg of a 1w 3.9k ohm resistor and another short wire from the other leg to the positive connection of a female RCA connector (solder or screw terminal style). Do the same for the negative lead except using a 1/2w 430 ohm resistor with the other leg going to the negative terminal of the same RCA connector. 2 resistors (1 per lead) of differing resistance. Solder the speaker wires to the resistors. Then, you can shrink tube the resistors and joints or wrap with electrical tape or tessa tape. Plug in your rca cable to the diy connector. Connect the exposed speaker lead to your speaker output of your receiver. No need for a bulky plate. You could make 5 or 7 of these for %10 or so combined.
I had to pause the video to read the resistors and see how they are connected. Wire > resistor > rca connector. The parts are cheap on Amazon or other sites online. I hope this helps.
Wow thanks for that explanation. Appreciate you watching
Crutchfield has these adapters for 39.99 also. Just order one let you know how it goes. Thanks for the info.
Glad to hear hear. Yes let me know how it works out
Great video. Keep the great videos coming.
Thanks for watching
Hi ..what is the name of those adapters to check on ebay..?? Thanks😉
They are made by Russound. If you check the top pinned comment. The put an eBay link there. Hope that helps and thanks for watching
@@Audiolympian yes i got it ...thanks😉
@@Mario-v6d5b cool.
Hi, if i have a 7.1 receiver but only want to power the 2 front speakers, do still have to hook up 3 adapters? at 10:45 you say " now if you have a 5.1 or 7.1 you will need 3 adapters". I ordered 1 adapter just now from crutchfield. I will see how it goes. I am hoping I don't have to buy 3 adapters to just get it to work on a 7.1 receiver, because then I am spending $120 basically for 3 adapters...might as well just use that money towards a new receiver with preouts.
Yes that will work fine. One adapter for just the 2 speakers works fine. If that’s all you want to do is power front mains. What I meant is if you wanted all 5 channels connected to an external amp then you would need 3 adapters.
Thanks for watching
whats the cons of doing this?
One con would probably be having another device in the chain that could pick up interference. Maybe another would be the device could burn out after so long although I’ve never had a problem with mine and I’ve had them for a few years now. Hope that answers your question. Thanks for watching
Can I turn the amp to max and the receiver low, so that it actually uses less power for the front speakers and has more reserve for the other ones, or do these adapters only work properly, if the high level input is as strong as it would be if you connected the speaker directly to the receiver?
@@mohe81 good question. If your amp has controls such as volume and output level. Yea you can do that. Because once the signal reaches the amp, from there it’s now in the hands of the amp. So however the amp performs is how the signal will flow. Thanks for the question and for watching
Hi, thanks for the video! I assume that, with the adapter in between, I can run my NAD C315BEE, which does not have a pre-out, into the line-in of my LOEWE Klang 1 Sub? Any enclosure available separately for the adapter? Cheers, Moritz
I haven’t tried using it with a sub but it should work. I haven’t found any specific enclosures or housings for the adapter but I used one from partsexpress.com. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
@@Audiolympian Many thanks for your swift response! This is helpful.
@@moritzmusik5826 happy to help
These could also be used to hook up a subwoofer to a receiver lacking a sub out or high level inputs. You'd probably have to sacrifice the "B channel" on the receiver/integrated amplifier.
Thank you! I am being given a Sony stereo amplifier. I have a Sony 5.1 AVR and it seems it is not putting the power out on the front left and right channels, but the center is plenty loud. My AVR does not have pre-amp outs though.
Is this modification going to lessen the demand on the AVR amplifier?
Can I leave the center channel on the AVR or should I try and run it off the stereo amp? It does have a zone A and B that you can run at the same time and some people do two stereo sets or have that send the signal a sub because this stereo receiver is technically a 2.0 not a 2.1.
Can I leave the Sub on the AVR?
Do you leave your amplifier volume control to max and then control master volume via AVR only?
Hey @nathanaelcole8466 thanks for the questions. So no this set up will not lessen the load of the receiver because it uses the existing signal after output. You can leave the center on the receiver but it will have lesser volume than the speakers connected to the amp. But if it’s very noticeable or not will depend on your amp. For example I use a sun fire amp with 200 watts per channel and my center channel is just connected to my receiver and the difference of sound is noticeable but not unbearable, for me anyway. Also my amps don’t have volume controls but if the did I’d have them all the way up and use the receiver for sound controls. And yes leave your sub on the receiver, as long as it’s a self powered sub. If it’s a passive sub then you may want to connect to an amp. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
You're the man! Thank you for the quick and thorough answers. I ordered one and will have my new stereo later tonight to start messing around with. @@Audiolympian
@@nathanaelcole8466 you’re welcome. Appreciate the support. Hope it works well for you
It’s about time you made a video that shows the proper way to hook it up the first video was ridiculous. It was just you showing off your sound system and all the toys you have that video didn’t help us at all.. this is the proper way to make a video about that. Thank you you get a thumbs up.👍👍👍👍 that’s all we want to know.
Haha. Sorry about that in the first video. You’re not the first person to tell me that. When I made that video my channel was still quite small very few subscribers, so I was still trying to attract viewers and I didn’t think that many people out there would be that interested in the adapter. Not too long after people were asking me questions about it. That’s when I decided to make another video on it. Hope it helped you out. Thanks for watching
Ok good info, but what is the line out jacks on many receivers for?
@@BrettGlass it depends on the receiver, usually the ones that have a line out output is used for a record player if it doesn’t have a dedicated phono output. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
And hooked it to my Onkyo NR6100, which has NO preouts, and am running 7 Klipsch speakers and 2 subs, all channels benefit from the A2, THANKS AGAIN
My pleasure. That set up sounds awesome
What if you made a wire that has RCA at one end and speaker termination at the other end?
Would you still need an adapter?
You definitely could try it but I think the capacitors, resistors and diodes play an important role in transferring the signal so it doesn’t have too much noise distortion. But it certainly could work as a quick solution. Thanks for watching
Much better too used the headphone jack...
Is it possible to apply a vintage graphic equalizer to an amplifier 5.1 without preout?
Good question. It might work. I’ve done it before but it sounded horrible. Good luck. Let me know if you do it. Thanks for watching and commenting
Was so excited but it didn't last. Hooked everything up and it worked great for a moment and man did the amp make a difference. But every time there was a Surg in loudness in whatever I was watching the receiver would shut off and go into power save mode. This happened at least 4 times. Thanks for the video it was worth a try.
Sorry to hear that man. Perhaps some different power cables could help if possible. Thanks for watching
Same here does not work save your money, receiver constantly goes into power save mode.
Great great video. Question in a 5.2.2 set up can I leave the atoms speakers connected to the receiver while diverting to surrounds center and Fronts to the power amp.
Yes you can. Thanks for watching
Can u not splice the rca cables and hook them directly to the reciever without the adapter?
🤔
Ok I recently bought Bose 901speakers and it has an active equalizer to be used with it, question what’s the difference of that with a typical equalizer in relation to the 901s ?? I have a Yamaha HTR 5630 but it has no pre amp in or outs OR tape monitor in and out, how do I correctly connect the active equalizer to where every thing I may connect to receiver benefits from the equalizer ?? It does have an MD/CD-R in and out as well as VCR in and out and others, what do I do ?? Thanks
Ok this is a good challenging question. First off I believe the equalizer for the Bose should have a section for amplifier input. So according to your Yamaha that doesn’t have preouts you definitely will need the adapter to connect them. Now, I be never used those speakers before so I’m not sure if they can hook up directly without the equalizer. If it can and you choose not to use the equalizer you would possibly still need an amplifier to power them properly as I know those speakers do need some juice. Now to answer you other question about the difference of the Bose equalizer and others. Think of the Bose equalizer as a specific crossover unit made just for those speakers. Could you use another equalizer?. maybe, but it’s probably not going to control the sound the way it’s intended. I’ve know the 901’s to be great speakers but I’ve also heard they are fussy and need to have the right settings to reach potential. Hope that helps. If you have any other questions feel free to ask. Thanks for watching
Zone 2 has pre-outs...but if you you get a decent receiver to begin with or upgrade, it would probably output comparable power (or possibly more) to the Emotiva XPA 200...but the Emotiva is also only $500...Your receiver is the heart of your entertainment system...everything runs through it, so it's best to start with a nice one and work your way out from that with the rest of the system and components...with that being said, this is still a good work around with budget restrictions
Thanks for watching and commenting. Good advice.
You can control Zone 2 pre-outs in any way
Or is there??
@@tombergman4506 That depends on the receiver...some give you full control of those, some only limited...since my receiver has zone 2 and 3 that can be incorporated into the surround configuration, I have full control of those outputs (Integra DTR 8.8)
@tombergman4506 yes and no. It depends on what a person is attempting to do with the zone 2 and the receiver’s capabilities. Hope that helps
I have Sony STR DH 550 AV receiver and a Yamaha MX 50 power amplifier as my subwoofer amp. I was thinking of getting a preamplifier for the power amp and dump the AV Receiver. However after watching this video I believe getting the connector and using the AV receiver as a preamp would be far better. So from the AV Receiver front speaker output jack to the connector then to the power amp would serve my purpose.
Awesome. Hope it works great for you as it does for me. Thanks for watching and commenting
I have Pioneer VSX-932 AV receiver that I love the way is sound but only have preout for 2 subwoofer even so sound amazing , I just follow the guide from your video . I got a very good deal for a used AudioSource Amp Three 2 Channel Power Amplifier 150w pc ,hook it up and even my 3 powered subwoofer sound more vivid. My question is since the the 2 main channel on the AV receiver is now getting the juice from the power amp is ok to set in the receiver my main speaker to large instead of small since the AV receiver don't have to make any extra effort to drive my 15 inches main speaker ? Another question the main 2 speaker channel in the receiver still power up or the receiver take the main speaker power to feed with more power the other channel?
Thanks for the question. It will be fine to change your main speakers to large. That basically shares the bass response with the sub instead of solely pushing Lfe to the sub. For your second question receivers do share power loads between channels but not how we would think, it’s not an even continuous max split of power it pushes extra watts when needed like explosions and loud sounds. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
Is this changing digital to analog. This is a more come problem with car audio. They make more complex converters for car audio. Are those better. I have a denon 760 no Pre outs. I want more power to my SVS ultras left right center. Looking for quality not volume . This adapter just looks cheaply made no case. Seems like there maybe a better convter out there. I have seen some that have step down transformers for cars. Some are 4 channel. Not a lot out in utube about this conversion. I’d like to see some one hook up Pre outs then do the conversion and see if one is better.
Good question. I don’t believe it’s a converter as much as it just redirects the signal. Several people have asked about car audio converters in comparison. I think in theory a car audio one would work but I don’t know how well being car audio devices are not equipped to handle house power (120 volts, 15 amps) but that’s not to say it won’t work, I just haven’t tried it. I have been looking to get one and compare it just to see how it holds up. I also would like to find a better quality built adapter. As you said it seems kinda cheaply made, I’d say more simple but it’s pretty durable and it’s mostly for the diy’er. Thanks for watching and commenting
The first Avr , the one with the pre outs . Which model is that one . The one with the tape 1 and tape 2. Thanks again.
It is the Denon AVR 3600. A very old model but a beast.
What I have in mind is if I want to transfer the load of the front speakers to an external amp, I’d follow your instructions, and leave the surround speakers on the receiver. That should get some load off of the receiver, right?
Yes it will lighten the load a bit on the main speakers
I bought one of these last year and saved it in the box never used until I got my emotiva basX amp today. I hooked everything up and the left channel(speaker) has a very very faint buzzing noise with 0 sound when playing anything. The right channel(speaker) works perfectly fine. Again I’ve checked every wire and every connection. I believe it’s the adpater and I must buy another. Any thoughts? Thanks.
Amps usually have a slight buzz sound when connecting. It comes from the transformer inside. It’s usually caused by some grounding issue on the power line. They can be a pain to try and get rid of completely. You could get another adapter and see if that works if not it’s your amp not that there is anything wrong with your amp again just a grounding issue. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching and commenting
Does it have a level control??
Think that ur amp can push 80w and the line out converter is capable of delivering pure audio to the rca without over power music..
Then my receiver is delivering 150w and i am connecting that l.o.c for my receiver, then will my music overpowered to the rca and cause clipping or distortion.
Please answer me.. becz all the car audio loc has a level control...
The device does not have a level control, but that’s because all the control and adjustments can be done from the receiver. Which you will need to do, to get the sound to your liking. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
I get why you would want to do this, but it doesn't bypass amping if the avr, you get the signal amplified twice.
@shs747 yes, you’re correct. Thanks for watching
so no shipping here west africa so how can i Mac QUIVER one? speaker outs to car mono sub amp in then my 3000w comp sub
@@ianjaeger4178 not sure how you can make one. I’m thinking of possibly creating a housing unit for the device and selling myself. A lot of people outside of the U.S would like one but don’t have shipping available.
Hi can I just use a simple rca to bare wire cable to connect may receiver to a power amp??your answer is very much appreciated..Thank you 😊
Sorry for the late response. Apparently I didn’t hit send. Your question is interesting. I’m not sure if it will work, seems like it could but the adapter has specific networking to transfer the signal properly. However, you could be right. Thanks for the question and watching
Thanks for answering my question 😊I have another question 😁 is it the adapter that you use is same with hi-to- low level signal converter??😊it is with the same rca out and speaker line in connection with it..I just saw that on amazon 😊Thank you 😊
@@rjaychavez3866 yes it’s the same.
No , do not use rca directly to speaker output and connect it to power amp , you will certainly destroy your power amp, this adaptor has resistors connected between rca and signal coming out of receiver so it is safe for power amp. Early in my years i have done this mistake with a car audio, connected the old radio from car directly to an amplifier trough the speakers output and destroyed the power transistors inside amplifier.
Can you just use a RCA to speaker +- wire? Then use the speaker +- wire to the receiver or Preamp?
@@chrishale5608 you probably could do that but the device has filters and resistors that help regulate from over powering. Thanks for watching
If watch a movie it will still amplify them even if I change it from stereo to Dolby surround?
Yes it will. As long as a signal is active in that channel
glad i found you man .... YOU SAVED MY ASS !!!!
Glad to have helped. Thanks for watching and commenting. It helps the channel.
Can I connect a equalizer to a receiver like the one you have in this video if so how
@@thomasboone2657 you only can if the receiver has the proper inputs. Connecting an equalizer is tricky because it doesn’t just connect between the receiver and speakers it has to loop. But it will only be in stereo as well. I’m doing a video on that topic now. Thanks for watching
So I tried doing this to my onkyo 6500 and when I turned on the marantz amp to my 6500 it came across check amp and the did a checking speaker wire test and finally shut down...I tried it again with a nero 3 channel amp and again same thing and shut down. Any ideas?
Hmmmm. Sorry to hear that. Could have gotten a defective adapter. I’d try using a different outlet and perhaps different interconnect and different power cord if possible. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
@@Audiolympian i tried a different outlet and you might be right a different adapter could be it! Thank you.
@@bigguy1403 no problem. Hope you get it resolved
So- you need this sort of devise cause if you go directly from a Speaker wire to a Power amp (Input) it Humms right? Exactaly what I was lookin for..thanks
Correct. It will him because they is no rectification or capacitance to control the power output and intake. Thanks for watching
@@Audiolympian Gotcha...thanks
@@wildbillo68 my pleasure
Can you use these adapters for a TV with audio out? Any channel of audio output with the correct adapters?Thanks.
Good question. I would think you can use it with tv audio as well, as long as the tv has speaker output terminals. But I haven’t tried it. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
@@Audiolympian Thank you so much .Yes the right and left but also there are adapters for other audio output to right and left.As the adapter you mentioned in your video.
@@kennethwilson7839 you should be good to go
I have a powered sub with high level lines. There’s 4 cables though a pair of + - and only 1 subwoofer… I’m confused on why it needs two pair of wires rather than one. How and where do I connect them to the receiver?
The high level line connections are there in case the receiver doesn’t have a sub preout. The two pairs of wire connections are for connecting the front main speakers, so when a receiver doesn’t have a sub preout you would connect the main speakers wires from the receiver to the sub and then from the sub to the main speakers. If that makes sense for you. However, if both your receiver and subwoofer have the dedicated sub connection you can just use that and not worry about anything else. Hope that helps, thanks for watching
@@Audiolympian was mainly confused on why there’s 4 connections for 1 driver, but I believe Google answered me. It’s because it has a dual voice coil I I think… I’m Using a denon 750h which has 2 sub preouts that take a single (rca?) each. subwoofer I’m trying to use is a 10 inch powered car sub. Which works because I’ve hooked it up to a tv before. (I’m just trying to get an idea on what size I need to get) Anyway, I tried connecting it by splicing the lines on the sub to an rca line, but gave zero signal.
So connecting the 4 speaker wires from the sub to the L & R fronts of the receiver should work?
@@Audiolympian and thank you very much for the reply. I’m building this for my mother as her system broke. It’s costing me damn near every dollar I have but I want it it to sound fantastic.. she just retired from singing in a classic rock cover band, after 30+ years. And she’s wants to crank it to 11 and fucking jam lol
@@LikelyLagging gotcha. Yes just run the speaker cables from the receiver into the sub then from the sub to the main speakers. Dual voice coil is referring to the motor structure of the driver. Which most subs have a dual voice coil to push the power.
@@Audiolympian understood. I greatly appreciate the help. 🙏🏼
Does doing this add for your left/right extra headroom for all the other speakers hooked up to the receiver or just more power for l/r speakers?
@@corytodd1690 good question. It doesn’t necessarily give more headroom to the other speakers because it just re-routes the actual signal but every receiver is designed to do that automatically. Some do it better than others. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
@Audiolympian I guess what I'm asking is since its not powering those two speakers does it improve the power available to the other ones. Sorry if this is what you just answered
@@corytodd1690 no problem. The way the device works, is you take speaker wire from the receiver and connect it to the device. Because of that you are still using the power of the receiver. So essentially you could say you are doubling up on the wattage of the front main speakers. For example if the receiver is 75 wpc and you connect a 50 wpc amp this way, it’s now 125 wpc on the front channels. You don’t bypass the amplification in the receiver. Now, if the receiver has preouts and you connect the amp to the receiver’s preouts then you would bypass the receiver’s amp section and now are using and external power source for amplification and leaving extra headroom for the other channels because the main channels are not being powered by the internal power supply. Hope that makes sense.
@Audiolympian absolutely does. If I want more power sent to each speaker I need to do this for each one. Thank you!
@@corytodd1690 you’re welcome
Hi, can I use my Subwoofer PreOut in Yamaha AVR RXV477 to pass signal to Schiit DAC > Preamplifer > Power Amplifier > Speakers. This way, I will be able to use my AVR as a streaming transport for Apple Airplay?
You certainly can try it however I don’t think it would work because the subwoofer preout is just going to pass an LFE signal not a full range signal. Thanks for watching
Can you go directly from speaker terminal without the adapter and combine power of both units?
Sounds like this turns your a/v receiver into a preamp
Yes. Essentially it does turn the receiver to a preamp. You might be able to rig it up so you could use bare wire to the amp but the adapter has resistors and filters so it’s a safer connection. But anything is possible too. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
@@Audiolympian
I was about to buy 2 125w Marantz monoblocks.Thought was to combine my Yamaha 125w per making combined 250w per channel.
Speaker out into amp via RCA.
@@budzlightyear2212 I see. You’ll definitely want an adapter for that. I wouldn’t risk any damage to my Yamaha or those marantz mono’s
Hello!
I dont know anything about preamps, or so, Now I have hometheater AVR at home, hooked up with my 5.2 channel speakers.
But I do have a second older 5.2 channel AVR as well that I am not using anymore.
Now I wonder, can I use the second hometheater AVR as a amplifiers for my left and right channel only?
Like: left and right speaker channel out from receiver 1, to adapter (in this video) to let say BD RCA input on receiver 2. And then left and right speaker output to my left and right speakers.
Theoretically yes it can work the way you describe however, I’ve never done it so I can’t say for certain but I have known people in the past use a second receiver to power speakers. You may have to go in the receiver’s settings and adjust things but overall it should work. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
Could you hook up a headphone tube amplifier to the Onkyo RCA ins? I want to drive a set of zone 2 speakers with my tube amp to the Onkyo NR7100. My thinking was RCA out on the tubes to cd (RCA) ins, volume control would be both....
In theory I think your idea would work, the problems you may run into would be the actual output and the which in theory you need an output source and an input source for a system to work. In your set up idea you have and output to an input/output. But you certainly could try it. Sorry I couldn’t give you a better answer
@@Audiolympian The music source would be digital out from a hard drive (PC) to a dac, the dac output to the tubed headphone amp, the headphone amp to the onkyo cd input, onkyo out to zone 2 speakers.
@@maze400 that should work
Thanks for the vidéo, I just have a question, do you need tu put one on all channels or (for a 7.2 setup) can you just use it for the FL and FR..?
And what about sound ? If doing only 2 speakers out of the 7 doesn’t it make them too loud compared to the rest ?
Thanks for the reply !
No you don’t have to run all you channels through the adapter, you can use it on just your Front main speakers. As far as sound that will depend on your amp. But yes it will most likely be louder on the fronts if those are getting power form an external amp. I have my current set up as a 5.1 but only 3 adapters for my center and fronts. They’re louder but I am closer to my rear speakers so it’s not a total mismatch. Thanks for watching and the question.
I have a denon receiver with two zones. I want to add additional speakers in my backyard pool but be able to play the same music as where my receiver is located. I don't have the preouts on my reciever. Can I do whay you did in the video and connect the receiver to a whole home amplifier to be able to play the same music on my addional speakers and do you think they will be a delay between the music inside and outside the house by doing so?
It should work as long as your home amplifier has the additional channels. As far as a delay in sound, that would depend on the distance, which could be adjusted by the receiver. Other than that I don’t think there would be a delay. Hope that helps and thanks for watching
Thanks for the help and quick reply!
@@lquint02 you’re welcome
I have tons of tuners sitting around this would work to hook two of them up to combine the power right?
It’s possible. Could be a fun project
Great vid! How would configure this if wanted to do just the center channel?
Thanks. If you only want to use one channel just use one side of the device. That’s how I use it for my 5 channel set up. 3 devices = 2 left channels, 2 right channels and one center. The cool thing is you have an extra input for the future if you want to add another speaker. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
Do they make one unit to do 3 speakers front left front right and center? Thank you
No. Unfortunately all I could find is stereo units. Thanks for watching
@Audiolympian, thank you so much for this video but am still confused. I bought the Russound but still don't know what to do. I currently have a Marantz Cinema 70s so would want to use the pre outs to power my LR with another AVR (Sony Mutiki STR KM7, 7.1),they don't come with pre outs. So I have the RCA Cables coming from the Pre outs of the Marantz to the pre outs part of the adapter, so what do I connect to the speaker wire part of the adapter, is it the speakers wire directly for the speakers or the speaker wires goes to the Sony AVR? Not sure, confused
No problem my friend. Happy to help. You take the actual speaker wire from your marantz to the speaker wire inputs on the adapter. Then you connect your rca cables from the adapter to your amplifier. Then your speakers connect to your amp.
@@Audiolympian thank you so much but where on the Sony Amplifier(AVR)? don't forget there are no Pre outs on the Sony. Do I connect the RCA Cables to the Sony Amp/AVR and where do I connect the speakers on the Amp/AVR.
@@chumaiwugoh2964 are you trying to connect and AVR to another AVR?
@@chumaiwugoh2964 if you are trying to use and avr to power your LF speakers, the Sony needs to have RCA INPUTS in order to use the signal. If your AVR doesn’t have the inputs then it may not work. But you could try connecting to the cd input or possibly Aux input on the sony. Hope that helps
@@Audiolympian yes, to spread the load. LR Channels on the Sony (including the subs because my subs are passive). 50watts per channel from the Marantz I think is abit low, need to always crank it up to much..
The denon , what model number is it . I still record and have a DAT recorder .
That’s cool. This is the 4700 model
Hi I have a den in AVR - S54BT and I want to add an external an external amplifier to it but I have no idea which one would be the best I want to add about 6 more speakers to it do it I already have 4 on it
Not sure what your question is. Using this device doesn’t add more speakers to your set up it just adds more power to it. So if you’re asking which amplifier? Really depends on your budget. But I’d recommend emotiva or monolith. Thanks for watching
Please help me with some advise.. Is the adapter realy needed.. I can't get this adapter where I am. What if you use Speaker wire to RCA with no adapter.. Would that still work or are there any down sides.
I have a Denon X-2700H with no pre out. Want to add a additional amplifier to my 5.1.2 system.. Any advise would be appreciated
Others have asked that. I really don’t know. All I can say is the adapter uses capacitors, diodes and rectifiers. So I’m guessing they have something to do with the signal transfer so without those it may not transfer the signal properly. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
Are those like line level / high to low level adapter used in car stereos to add a power amp to a factory stereo without preouts? Same concept.. I have a Onkyo NR 686 that don’t have preouts .. It has Bluetooth an Wi fi
Yes the same thing. The only difference is these are designed to handle 120v the car devices are designed for 12v. I’ve thought about getting and auto line level and. Trying it in the house just to see if it would work but those take a hot, ground and neutral intake and I’m not an electrical engineer. Thanks for watching
@@Audiolympian .. thanks for responding;
@@keithwebb8512 you’re welcome
Great video! Do you get any feedback or static from the speakers using this method?
Thanks. I did when I first connected multiple devices. Until I screwed them on a wood plank and kept them stable and added a cover to it. Now, no problems at all. Thanks for watching
I'm not quite comfortable with this. As I understand it, the adapters do not present a reactive load to the output stage of the (pre)amp. This load would have to match the preamp specs (correct ohms). Otherwise you will damage the output stage over time. Basically the same thing as with guitar amp slaving. Or am I missing something?
In theory you’re correct as I thought the same thing. The adapter is measurable down to 4 ohms, my receiver is compatible with 8, 6 and 4 ohms. So far it hasn’t had any issues. I’ve been quite surprised and satisfied with it. Thanks for watching and commenting
@@Audiolympian It was not more easier to connect the RCA cable to the LINE OUT of zone 2 of AVR without the adapter?
@@ralphdantzoff4091 theoretically yes. But the zone 2 doesn’t work that way for some reason
@@Audiolympian So, maybe "theoretically speaking" the mistake is not knowing how to configure it.
@@ralphdantzoff4091 agreed
Hey... I have two active studio monitors which I want to connect to an AVR (without pre out). Is this converter really safe? I mean will they blow out my active speakers if this converter fail?
I can’t say for sure that you’re equipment is 100% safe but I can say all the adapter does is reroute the signal. So it doesn’t add extra power or gain at all. If it fails then the signal stops. I also would say it would be pretty hard to make the adapter fail as it’s just a few caps and resistors and a pcb. Again it doesn’t need power or have transformers so I’d say it’s pretty safe. I’ve been using mine for about 3 years now and no issues. Hope that helps, thanks for watching
I have a good question for ya- I listen to "all channel stereo" often for music on my 7.2.2 setup. Would adding a second amp for the front two tower speakers be a smart move... considering they are capable of much more power?
Good question. So here are some factors that will determine if you’ll hear a difference. Amount of power from the amp, room size, distance from the speakers. You probably won’t notice much if your in a medium size room that’s a bit open and you not too close to any specific speakers. Smaller closed room, yes you’ll hear a difference. Now for amp power, you may not notice a big difference at 100 watts. But 150 watts you should notice a difference and 200 and above you’ll definitely notice a difference. Also depending on your receiver you can adjust the db levels of each speaker as well. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
Does using a line level adapter take load off of the AVR? Like completely for that output?
Good question, no it doesn’t take the load off. Thanks for watching
I have another question.....Will I still be able to adjust the speaker settings in the reciever to fine tune the treble and vocals if hooked up like this to an external amplifier?.
Yes.
Thanks for the excellent video. Do you know where I can find a small case for this? I am only getting one and I'd like to cover it up. Don't know why they couldn't just put it in a simple case.
I’ve thought the same thing. Parts express has lots of cases. You can try them. Thanks for watching
I have a Paradigm PDR-10 v2 subwoofer, and a JVC-RX-517V. What would be the best way to connect this subwoofer, if I have front speakers, and surround sound speakers? The subwoofer has a low level input, and a right/lift red/black speaker level input. The receiver does not have a subwoofer pre out, or a line level output for a subwoofer. It has speakers 1 and 2 line level outputs(not A and B), a center channel out, and surround sound speaker line outs. Could I hook both the subwoofer and fronts in the same ports on the receiver, or would connecting with the surrounds work better?
I would connect the subwoofer using the high level inputs (the red and black inputs) on the back of the sub. So you would take speaker wire from your receiver (front, left and right) and connect them to the red and black speaker input on the sub. Then take another set of speaker wires from your sub’s speaker output to your front main speakers. That will power up you sub when you turn on your receiver. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching.
I have the Denon 760H recently bought it from Costco 7.2.It does not have pre outs. How can I add extra speakers to the receiver. If I buy an amp and this connector can I able to add speakers for a 7.2.4 system. Can I do parallel speaker wire connections to the existing speaker out in the receiver,one going to speaker and the other going to this connector then to amp and from amp to the extra speakers needed ?
Yes you can do that but keep in mind the extra channels won’t be dedicated channels for a true 11 speaker set up it would still just be 7 channels split up because the receiver is designed for 7 channel output decoding. So basically which ever channels you parallel will have the exact same sound coming from both speakers. But at the very least it would give you more sound through more speakers. Hope that helps and thanks for watching
Question: own a vintage Marantz 1060 integrated amplifier that has pre-outs and an Onkyo TX-8511 Receiver that does not have pre-outs. Could I connect these together and would there be any advantage? I am using JBL Studio 230 for speakers. Thanks,
You could connect them but I’m not sure there would be any advantage to it being yours marantz probably has better voltage than your onkyo even if the wattage is lower. However you can always give it a shot and see if it works. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
@@Audiolympian when connected separately, the Marantz has much better sound than the Onkyo. However, I thought with more power pushing through I was hoping for better sound. Exactly how would I do this? Would I go from the pre-out from the Marantz to what in the Onkyo?
More power doesn’t always mean better sound. The onkyo could change the sound in a way you may not like. It is a tricky connect being the output of the marantz would maybe go into an auxiliary input or maybe the cd input of the onkyo. But not sure if the signals will pass properly. In theory it should but not sure. I’ve never done that.
@@Audiolympian OK thanks maybe I should just let that pass. I thought maybe since I already owned it I could put it to good use. It’s basically just sitting there collecting dust. I believe I purchased it in the late 90s when my Marantz went on the blink. After a few years I decided to get the Marantz repaired and I’m glad I did because it really does sound much better than the Onkyo. I guess I should come up with another solution.
@@drums5434 marantz vintage gear is outstanding.
Can u plug the adapter straight into bookshelf speakers instead of the amplifier?
I assume you’re referring to a powered bookshelf speaker, yes you can. Thanks for watching
Does it matter what the ohms rating on the receiver is when you ad an amp like this
Good question. Yes and no. As long as the ohms do not drop below 2 ohms. Which most receivers do not go that low. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
any tips for a dual reciver setup one for bass and one for normal sounds and such cause i have a pioner from 1997 thats getting real tired what should i buy thats in a good price range and yeah cause it gets to hot to play for long amounts of time so i had to use a pc fan on it any recomendations ?
Mostly depends on budget. But I usually try to give options between the $300 - $700 price ranges. Also keep in mind any recommendation might be able to be found on aftermarket sites which could mean a little lower price. Depending on your set up (stereo or surround) but any current pioneer, denon, marantz or Yamaha. Receivers are really good today and come with a lot of options. Entry and mid level products tend not to come with a lot of actual power, maybe 80 wpc. But good enough to get the job done. And of course the bigger the budget, the higher up the scale, the more bells and whistles along with more power. As far as two receiver set ups, not much to recommend other than a more modern subwoofer that comes with a wireless app for more control such as SVS or paradigm. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
@Audiolympian thx man I'll be sub to you cuz you where so kind and wrote a essay for me of Info thx man :)
@@GoatedASF2K you’re welcome. And thanks for the support
When you wire an amp like this to the receiver are you still getting power from the receiver to that speaker or not??
Good question, it is getting power but it’s absorbed by the more powerful amplifier. Because the amplifiers in a receiver don’t operate the same as a class ab, d or h amp. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching.
Would a simple RCA to Bare speaker wire cable work?. I'm asking because if so it would be much cheaper than spending $40 for every 2 channels.
That’s been a common question lately. I can’t say for sure, seems like it would but I’m sure the capacitors, rectifiers and diodes have something to do with transferring the signal. You certainly can try just using a wire and interconnect. And see if it works. Thanks for watching
I have a 7 channel Denon AVR S960H that currenty powers/drives my 5.1 speakers (2 fronts, 1 center, 2 surrounds and 1 sub woofer) but I am considering getting an external power amp (BasX A5 power amp) for more power. Kindly help me on how to get this connected correctly, considering that I plan to hook all of the 5 speakers to the external amp while I leave the sub woofer to be driven/pushed by the AVR. Please let me know how many adapters needed as well. The Denon AVR S960H doesn't have preouts. Thank you.
Awesome project you working on. It will sound great. For what you want you’ll need 3 adapters with one of you adapters only using 1 rca output. Feel free to ask anything anytime.
When you turn up the volume on the AVR in this setup, where is the increase in power coming from? The internal amp in the AVR, or the amplifier?
Hey Riley,
Kind of both. This set up doesn’t totally by pass the avr’s channels it’s more of an enhancement. So the potentiometer is on the avr but it’s sound path is going through to the amp. Which is why if you connect this device the two channels it’s connected to will be louder than the other channels. Hope that answers your question. Thanks for watching
@@Audiolympian Interesting.
So what I'm trying to do is use my AVR by itself for movies, then have an amplifier connected via a line-level converter that I'll use for music (turntable). Turntable connected to AVR, line-level converter coming from my L+R speaker connections on AVR to the external amplifier, speaker wire from L+R connections on amp to an amp switch ("A" side of amp switch), then finally to speakers. Speaker wire will also be connected to L+R on AVR, leading to "B" side of amp switch. Amp switch lets me toggle between using the AVR (movies) and the AVR+amp (music). I've been using the amp switch for a while now with the AVR and amp completely seperate of each other, but I want to take advantage of the room correction software on my AVR, and I think this is the only way, unless I've made an error in my thinking.
Kinda complicated, but I like the extra power for music, plus the amplifier has cool lights, haha.
@@MFRiley gotcha. So it seems like it will work the way you want I too as long as your “switchers” are basically pass through devices, which it sounds like they are. If you do it let me know how it works out. I’d be curious to hear your results. And yes amp lights are very cool 😎
@@Audiolympian Pass through it is (Solupeak P2).
Figuring this all out was quite complicated as I'm not super knowledgeable about the technical side of audio. Didn't even know something like this was possible until I started digging. Audio is such a rabbit hole.
Now that I'm looking into it even more, I guess I could use the external amp for both movies and music. Use it as part of my surround setup for movies. Let the amp handle some of the load of the left and right channels, and the AVR can focus more on the other channels. Would this be worthwhile, or am I splitting hairs at that point?
@@MFRiley could be splitting hairs depending on which amplifier it is and your room. Yes it is a lot and a very deep rabbit hole. My advice is take your time, research a lot but enjoy what you have and get to know it. Learn all the specs. That will give you good insight about other gear as well.
Are they gonna work on emotiva basx amplifier?
It should. As long as the amplifier has RCA connectors. Thanks for watching
Will doing this automatically bypass the recievers internal amplifiers or add to the amplification?.
Good question. It adds because you are using the original signal coming out from the receiver however, I believe the design of the adapter using rectifiers help tone down the signal so it’s not over powered resulting in damaging speakers. Hope that helps, thanks for watching
I'm wondering if a LOC for car audio would do the same thing.
I’ve had a few other people say the same thing. But I don’t know if anyone has done it. My only concern with a mobile device is that it’s designed for 12 volts and maybe 30 amps. Not 120v and 1500 amps. Other than that seems like it would work. Thanks for watching
@Audiolympian True. I didn't think about that. I have a spare passive kicker LOC. I might have to give it a try. Whats the worst that can happen?😬
@@Libertà_sopra_vita exactly. Let me know what happens
How do you trigger the amp to turn on when you turn on the avr? All my equipment is in a closet so don’t want to have to open the door and then turn amp manually.
Depends on how your amp triggers. My specific amp is triggered from the rca signal others use the trigger output from the receiver. If the receiver and amp have those capabilities, some don’t and need to be turned on manually. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
I'm running 2 sets of Cerwin Vega speakers. I set is 4 ohm the other is 8 ohm. My JVC RX-888V is 4 ohm stable but has no preouts. Will adding this part change my already low ohm load and make it lower? I already have issues with it going into protection. I run a laptop cooler with 6 fans to help it stay cool but I can't lower my impedance any more.
It shouldn’t because it just redirects the already existing signal. But I suppose it would depend more on your amplifier and it’s load bearing capacity. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
@@Audiolympian thanks. It doesn't take much to effect resistance though. I'm going to try it. I never knew something like that existed
@@robertholsopple9451 cool. Let me know how it works out. Others have the same concern but I haven’t heard back from many people telling me how it works out.
I will measure it after and let you know. I was also wondering how one of those cheap car audio converters would work for this purpose. There is a few that are not 12v and only have 2 set of speaker wires and a ground wire. Most of those max out at 50 watts where as this unit you have maxes out at 500 which is taylor made for big power home sterios. But for someone running under 50 watts mabe that option could work? Just a thought. My JVC RX-888V is 120 watts rms per channel so I can't use the car audio converters without blowing it up. This thing you found is the only option I found that will work for high power applications and not have to worry about noise. It's just unfortunate it doesn't have a case or gain knobs to have a bit more adjustment. I'm glad this exists though. I'll let you know the results when I get it and hook it up. Will it short if it touches metal, or cause noise? Have you tried that yet?
@@robertholsopple9451 i haven’t tried them but other people have told me they have and they said it worked well. But I don’t really what other gear they had.
when the base hits does it make the fan come on the reciever that doesnt hAve preout?
I’m not sure. My receivers don’t have fans.
Can that speaker output use together with front speaker on the receiver..
@@gempak18 yes it can
@@Audiolympian thanks.. another thing.. can i use car high to low audio adaptor into my receiver and amp? its hard to find russound here in my place.
@@gempak18 I’ve had a few other people tell me they have used a car audio adapter but I personally haven’t done it. My only issue I would see with it is the design is made for car voltage at 12 volts not 120. But it could work.