Connecting an amplifier without using preouts.
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- Опубликовано: 27 июл 2024
- This is a follow up video to part 1 I recorded several months ago. I want to do another video showing a better connection and with multiple adapters for a 5.1 set up. Hope this helps clear up any confusion. Make sure you’re subscribed to our channel for our upcoming giveaway once we hit 1,000 subscribers. Thanks for watching
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Here is the link on eBay if anyone is interested www.ebay.com/itm/Russound-ADP-1-2-Speaker-Level-to-Line-Level-Adapter-/193137291271?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l6249&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0
I have one of these adapters because I wanted to add an external amp to a 2 channel stereo receiver and I tell you what it is one of the best things I've ever purchased in my life. Matter of fact it was your original video that helped me make that decision. Thanks!!!
Glad to hear it worked out for you. Thanks for watching and commenting. Appreciate the support of my channel.
How do you connect speaker wires🤔
What are these called exactly.....need to get one
My perfectly serviceable Denon i can keep thanks to your video. Added my amp and i'm getting more defined sound. Appreciate you.
Glad to hear that. Thanks for watching and commenting. Appreciate the support
Take it from a noob like me. It works. I was about to spend easily over 1500 until I watched this simply cuz cuz my AVR didnt have preouts and was lacking power. I spent 100 on the russound adapters, 15$ for RCA's used spare speaker wire, and simply used my existing Denon reciever. I bought a monolith amp and the sound is 10x better than just the AVR. It crazy that your vids are pretty much the only ones on RUclips explaining this
Thanks for your input. Appreciate your support and watching my vids.
Im thinking of trying this on my X-2600h, it really improved the sound that much ?
@@johnhighfield5064 the quality of your amplifier and receiver will determine your sound quality. Of course speakers too. But i feel most people have a decent receiver and just want more power so it doesn’t change the sound quality so much as it does add more heightened details. Hope that helps, thanks for watching
Great, can you please tell me which model receiver you have? I have a denon as well and also like to add an amp. Thanks.
@@Audiolympian thanks for your video.
I have a Denon Dnp-800ne network streamer with variable rca output where I can control the volume output on remote. I got a Behringer A800 amp and connected the variable rca output from the streamer to the rca input of the Behringer A800. The sound is pure and linear but want to use my Denon pma-800 amp as preamp as it has bass and treble control as well as the phono MC that I use for my vinyl player.
The streamer gives 4volt max output rms on the variable output
What voltage will the speaker to line level give?
If your receiver has a headphone jack, you can use that as a pre-out. So, the cable you'd need, is a phono plug (headphone plug) to RCA. It's not "clean" looking but, it 100% works. You just need to remember to disable your selected speakers on the receiver.
Thanks for the tip and for watching
I have a Yamaha 5.1 made in circa 2005. I love it and the sound fields/processor that it has. Sounds great. And I recently purchased a set of Fluance signature series bookshelf speakers and they really good! (Along with Sony sawm 40 sub) Niw when I crank the volume up in the higher “rocking out level 11” the speakers seem to ever so slightly distort. So I’m probably going to invest into a Emotiva BasX A2 channel power amp. This video greatly helped me out on my decision whether to me me old Yamaha receiver. Thanks a million. Eventually I may go with incorporating Yamahas WXC-50 but until then, my smart tv has done an excellent job of acting as a streamer. And the rest I just listen to cds and tapes/vinyl records. I’m just a 2.1 kinda guy. Thanks again cheers 🍺 from Houston
2.1 systems I think are underrated. I use one myself. Glad to have helped your decision making process. Thanks for watching and commenting. I love Houston. I have lots of family there. Can’t wait to go back.
I was literally looking at new avrs today as my old Onkyo tx nr 626 has no pre outs , a million thank yous. 💥👍
You’re welcome! Thanks for watching
Where did you buy the external pre-out?
@@erickurdys2873 I bought mine on eBay. Sadly the last I heard they were out of stock. Perhaps Amazon or direct through Russound. Hope that helps
Quite new to this hobby. Was looking for an answer to connect my AVR without a centre pre-out to my soon to purchase emotiva basx A3. Answered it perfectly. Thank you.
You’re welcome. Thanks for watching
I'm doing the same thing. How did it turn out for you?
Great precentation I am currently in a very similar situation you have helped me immensely
Glad to hear that. Thanks for watching
Your the man bro!!!!! Your going to save me thousands.
Thanks bro. Happy to help. And thanks for watching
These could also be used to hook up a subwoofer to a receiver lacking a sub out or high level inputs. You'd probably have to sacrifice the "B channel" on the receiver/integrated amplifier.
Hey, it works, great sound, I hear the details, with more weight.
Glad it works for you. Thanks for watching and commenting
Wow you are saving people TONS if money with this hack. Get a cheap receiver with all the up to date Decoders/Formats + nice amp and you’re off to the races!
That’s was my hope, to help people out. Appreciate the support and thanks for watching
Many thanks for this great informative video, just hooked up an Emotiva A2, sounds great
You’re welcome. Glad to help. Thanks for watching
Thanks for sharing your knowledge on this awesome video !!
You’re welcome. Thanks for watching
Great video. Keep the great videos coming.
Thanks for watching
Great video man, saved me from buying a more expensive receiver. Just got yourself a new subscriber.
Thanks. Appreciate the support. Thanks for watching and commenting
@@Audiolympian quick question do you get any humming noise from your set up?
@@edwinrijos6679 I did. On my initial set up I used cheap weak wires. But then I switched to better quality rca cables the hum went away. Could also be some interference on the power line. Hope that helps
Awesome video mate greatly appreciated
Appreciate the compliment. Thanks for watching
I have Sony STR DH 550 AV receiver and a Yamaha MX 50 power amplifier as my subwoofer amp. I was thinking of getting a preamplifier for the power amp and dump the AV Receiver. However after watching this video I believe getting the connector and using the AV receiver as a preamp would be far better. So from the AV Receiver front speaker output jack to the connector then to the power amp would serve my purpose.
Awesome. Hope it works great for you as it does for me. Thanks for watching and commenting
beautiful! liked and subscribed. where i live we have a wonderful fm classical station and i like to vary which receivers and speakers play at the same time. i have added more speaker sets with either small fm contained class d amps or power amps like aiyima 07 class d and audio source 100 ab amps fed by a radio with headphone out. i love the fullness and echo effect i can achieve with separate volume controls. some radios will only give one speaker power thru the amp while others provide both ( in mono). no stereo effect thru the radio fed amps, but the effect is still stunning.
Wow that sounds like quite the amazing set ups. Thanks for watching
Your Onkyo av doe have preout. "Zone 2, Line out, Pre-Out Subwoofer. That Is your preout...
@@genchic1 I thought so too. But when I connected up to it it didn’t work. Thanks anyway. And thanks for watching
glad i found you man .... YOU SAVED MY ASS !!!!
Glad to have helped. Thanks for watching and commenting. It helps the channel.
And denon tried telling me there's no way to run an external amp without preouts 🤣
Thanks man 👍🏻
Haha. Thanks for watching.
Thank you so much for showing us all.
You’re welcome. Thanks for watching
@@Audiolympian when you buy and install those adapters do you lose any amplifier wattage power?
@@docjohnson3980 good question. It doesn’t sound that way to me of course I’m not using any measuring tools and all amp are different. The amp I use is quite powerful. So if I do loose any it’s not very noticeable
@@Audiolympian Just want to say thank you responding back. I'm going to purchase them now thanks to your video. Just know you saved me some serious $$$$ I was getting ready to spend over 1500.00 on a AVR.... Cheers 🥂 you definitely earned my thumbs up and I'm definitely going to be subscribing. Wishing you nothing but great success 🙏
@@docjohnson3980 appreciate your support. Thanks
My problem solved! Thank you!
Glad to hear that. Thanks for watching and commenting
This is exactly what I was trying to find. Tired of making my receiver work so hard. She's an old gal, and needs to rest 😁. Great video. Would have liked to have seen a before and after db gain when connecting and also a description of what you heard differently when connecting the amp. But regardless, liked and subscribed. 👍
Thanks for the support. This video and the one I did a year ago are a couple of my top videos. Perhaps I could do a part 3 and go over some of your suggestions. Thanks for watching again subbing.
@@Audiolympian would you know if putting an amp on a center channel and making the receiver work less, will that provide other channels the watts it saved from putting the amp on the center?
That’s a tough but good question to answer. Yes and no, depending on your receiver. Adding an amp to you center channel will take some strain off of your receiver so it can push the other channels easier but it won’t disperse the watts out to among the other channels the way one would think it does so not like an even divide through the other channels . But it will take some of that and push extra power to the other channels when needed. But probably only an extra 5-10 watts or whatever it needs for that exact moment like a car crash, explosion stuff like that. Good question. Hope that helps
@@wcg686s the amps still out out the same amount of power as they normally would. The adapter just reduces the amount of power that goes to the separate amp. I am not sure how or if the ohms load is effected. That being said. Alot of AVRs that have pre-outs do not turn off Thier internal amps if you are using the pre-outs. So either way if your AVR has pre-outs or not unless it's a higher end unit the amps are running regardless.
@@christianlemont111 This. This youtube channel has no idea what he's using and how it works electronically.
Thanks for the vidéo, I just have a question, do you need tu put one on all channels or (for a 7.2 setup) can you just use it for the FL and FR..?
And what about sound ? If doing only 2 speakers out of the 7 doesn’t it make them too loud compared to the rest ?
Thanks for the reply !
No you don’t have to run all you channels through the adapter, you can use it on just your Front main speakers. As far as sound that will depend on your amp. But yes it will most likely be louder on the fronts if those are getting power form an external amp. I have my current set up as a 5.1 but only 3 adapters for my center and fronts. They’re louder but I am closer to my rear speakers so it’s not a total mismatch. Thanks for watching and the question.
Very good. I really like it.
Thanks for watching
i will be using this video as guidance for my hookup connecting the front LR speakers and center when i gert another adapter for the center hope it works out THANK YOU!!!
You’re welcome. If you need any help or have any questions don’t hesitate to reach out. Thanks for watching
audiolympian i have the emotiva BasX A3 it has 3 channels where am i placing the RCA cables 1-2-3 im only hooking up two channels the front left and right the center at a later time would really appreciateyour help thank u
@@Joereyes1 I would just connect to 1 & 2. Just make sure the speaker cable from the receiver to the adapter are in line with the rca cable output. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
@@Audiolympian i dont get it yet i tried no sound but i will try again thanks for the feedback
Works thanks alot Audioolympian took me some time but i got it thanks too U DAMM ITS LOOOOUD!!!!!!!!
I tried and tried again to get power from my new amp to two tower speakers,only to end in dissapointment.Was almost to the point of paying to have it checked out, dealing with support etc.This is my first home amplifier and Im connnecting it to my Onkyo txnr7100,which doesnt have much in the way of preouts at all.This seems like my best bet without spending a bunch of money and am now waiting on one of these adapters,will let you know what happens.Thanks for the video!.
You’re welcome. Please do. I’m very interested to know your results. Thanks for watching
@@Audiolympian Hey Audiolympian,as I told you it did work. Not sure what happened to that response but there's something else I want to tell you,I am running my two front towers through the adapter but you may frown on this next statement. Without even thinking about it I hooked my center speaker straight to my amplifier without another adapter or input and it works just fine with my system..I realized later what I had done but it works so Im keeping it this way. You may of course delete this if you want,just thought Id mention it to you..
@@steven3517 wow. That’s cool. I hope it doesn’t damage anything. I’m curious as to how the center channel is working if the signal is not going to the amplifier?? Or maybe I’m understanding it wrong. Either way, if it works then good for you my friend. Yeah I seen your older message but then I couldn’t find again to reply. That was weird.
@@Audiolympian Actually i just discovered that my center channel is silent when i do my test tones,so it must be stealing from my towers and im not really getting the center speakers output..Probably not a good idea even though it sounds fine
@@steven3517 ok gotcha. That makes more sense. You definitely don’t want to overload your system
Great video! Do you get any feedback or static from the speakers using this method?
Thanks. I did when I first connected multiple devices. Until I screwed them on a wood plank and kept them stable and added a cover to it. Now, no problems at all. Thanks for watching
Was so excited but it didn't last. Hooked everything up and it worked great for a moment and man did the amp make a difference. But every time there was a Surg in loudness in whatever I was watching the receiver would shut off and go into power save mode. This happened at least 4 times. Thanks for the video it was worth a try.
Sorry to hear that man. Perhaps some different power cables could help if possible. Thanks for watching
Same here does not work save your money, receiver constantly goes into power save mode.
These work great. use them to run my front 3 channels with a new Emotiva BasX A3 amplifier. BIG difference!
Yes they do. I use 3 of them. Thanks for the comment. And thanks for watching
Thanks you just respond my answer , I already got one for my main channel, order a second adapter for my other 2 channel amp but wasn't sure for using on my center or surround channel
Great great video. Question in a 5.2.2 set up can I leave the atoms speakers connected to the receiver while diverting to surrounds center and Fronts to the power amp.
Yes you can. Thanks for watching
Good method, but it's not the same. Pre outs are routed out before the signal gets amplified.
I had an Onkyo tx-nr607 and on this reciever you could retrofit true pre out channels. There was a preamp board and an amplifier board, these two where just connected with some wires that had low level signals on them, so you where able to just cut the wire and route a pre out and pre in towards the back.
Sounds like an interesting project there. Thanks for watching
And hooked it to my Onkyo NR6100, which has NO preouts, and am running 7 Klipsch speakers and 2 subs, all channels benefit from the A2, THANKS AGAIN
My pleasure. That set up sounds awesome
I have a good question for ya- I listen to "all channel stereo" often for music on my 7.2.2 setup. Would adding a second amp for the front two tower speakers be a smart move... considering they are capable of much more power?
Good question. So here are some factors that will determine if you’ll hear a difference. Amount of power from the amp, room size, distance from the speakers. You probably won’t notice much if your in a medium size room that’s a bit open and you not too close to any specific speakers. Smaller closed room, yes you’ll hear a difference. Now for amp power, you may not notice a big difference at 100 watts. But 150 watts you should notice a difference and 200 and above you’ll definitely notice a difference. Also depending on your receiver you can adjust the db levels of each speaker as well. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
I know this is an older video. Anyone interested can build one of these and make it less bulky. Take a short length of speaker wire. Connect the positive lead to one leg of a 1w 3.9k ohm resistor and another short wire from the other leg to the positive connection of a female RCA connector (solder or screw terminal style). Do the same for the negative lead except using a 1/2w 430 ohm resistor with the other leg going to the negative terminal of the same RCA connector. 2 resistors (1 per lead) of differing resistance. Solder the speaker wires to the resistors. Then, you can shrink tube the resistors and joints or wrap with electrical tape or tessa tape. Plug in your rca cable to the diy connector. Connect the exposed speaker lead to your speaker output of your receiver. No need for a bulky plate. You could make 5 or 7 of these for %10 or so combined.
I had to pause the video to read the resistors and see how they are connected. Wire > resistor > rca connector. The parts are cheap on Amazon or other sites online. I hope this helps.
Wow thanks for that explanation. Appreciate you watching
Hi great video and very interested in adding a power amp as my receiver doesnt have pre outs.So the only concern is that do this adapter make a noticibile hissing sound that can really be heard?Thank you.
Good question. No the adapter doesn’t add any interference noice or background hiss. It’s filtered well. Thanks for watching and commenting
Hi. Great channel with practical info. I have a set up similar to this but with a pair of Klipcsh speakers with the high low connectors. Where would the extra set of speaker cables need to be connected for that?
Thanks for checking out my channel. The extra cable placement would depend on the amplifier you have or perhaps use small jumper cables for simplicity. Or you’d probably have to use splitters from the adapter to the amplifier to help create an additional signal path. This might degrade the signal strength though. Hope that helps. Again thanks for watching
Zone 2 has pre-outs...but if you you get a decent receiver to begin with or upgrade, it would probably output comparable power (or possibly more) to the Emotiva XPA 200...but the Emotiva is also only $500...Your receiver is the heart of your entertainment system...everything runs through it, so it's best to start with a nice one and work your way out from that with the rest of the system and components...with that being said, this is still a good work around with budget restrictions
Thanks for watching and commenting. Good advice.
You can control Zone 2 pre-outs in any way
Or is there??
@@tombergman4506 That depends on the receiver...some give you full control of those, some only limited...since my receiver has zone 2 and 3 that can be incorporated into the surround configuration, I have full control of those outputs (Integra DTR 8.8)
@tombergman4506 yes and no. It depends on what a person is attempting to do with the zone 2 and the receiver’s capabilities. Hope that helps
I have Pioneer VSX-932 AV receiver that I love the way is sound but only have preout for 2 subwoofer even so sound amazing , I just follow the guide from your video . I got a very good deal for a used AudioSource Amp Three 2 Channel Power Amplifier 150w pc ,hook it up and even my 3 powered subwoofer sound more vivid. My question is since the the 2 main channel on the AV receiver is now getting the juice from the power amp is ok to set in the receiver my main speaker to large instead of small since the AV receiver don't have to make any extra effort to drive my 15 inches main speaker ? Another question the main 2 speaker channel in the receiver still power up or the receiver take the main speaker power to feed with more power the other channel?
Thanks for the question. It will be fine to change your main speakers to large. That basically shares the bass response with the sub instead of solely pushing Lfe to the sub. For your second question receivers do share power loads between channels but not how we would think, it’s not an even continuous max split of power it pushes extra watts when needed like explosions and loud sounds. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
Hi, thanks for the video! I assume that, with the adapter in between, I can run my NAD C315BEE, which does not have a pre-out, into the line-in of my LOEWE Klang 1 Sub? Any enclosure available separately for the adapter? Cheers, Moritz
I haven’t tried using it with a sub but it should work. I haven’t found any specific enclosures or housings for the adapter but I used one from partsexpress.com. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
@@Audiolympian Many thanks for your swift response! This is helpful.
@@moritzmusik5826 happy to help
Hi! I am new to all of this audiophile stuff and see the advantage of adding a separate amp to an AVR. I primarily only listen to CD's or YOuTube music on my stereo i.e. no home movies or gamer stuff. I currently have 2 older Yamaha AVR's: an HTR-6130 and HTR-5063. I do not see any pre-outs on either of these.....is this correct? I am on the fence re 2 channel system vs 5.1 system and will be buying ELAC Uni-fi D52 speakers for my "mains" but have other surround sound speakers/Fluance center channel and Paradigm 10" powered sub should I want to go back to 5.1. So.....if my HTR's cannot work as this this Denon/Emotiva work, can u suggest a budget-mid priced 3.1 amp + AVR to work? I live in British Columbia, Canada. Have a wonderful day!
Hey Andrew,
Yes your correct those Yamaha receivers don’t have preouts, so you will need adapters. As far as my recommendations for a budget system you best best will be used items, best places to look is audiogon.com and usaudiomart.com of course eBay as well. So with recommendations for 3 channel amps look for older model anthem, Parasound and rotel amps and possibly a used monolith amps. Most companies today don’t make 3 channel amps but you can still find used ones between $300-$500 and as far as receivers I’d look for used denon, pioneer and onkyo receivers they’ll be at least 5 channels but have room for growth is never a bad thing. Just an fyi the elac speakers are known to be power hungry speakers so you might need some good powerful amps to make them sound better than average. Hope that helps. Any other questions don’t hesitate to ask. Thanks for watching
Just earned a new subscriber my friend. Didn't think this was possible. Why do these things only come on the higher end of amps?
Welcome. Really appreciate the support. I know what you mean I’ve always thought the same thing. When I came across this device I was excited. I actually own about 10 of them now and use them in 3 different systems. Thanks for watching and commenting
Awesome!!! Thanks
You’re welcome. Thanks for watching
Hello Audiolympian,
I just wanted to say that I appreciate your knowledge and helpful insight on this subject. I'm a complete amateur at audio/home theater equipment. I recently (2021) purchased my first home theater receiver with the Yamaha RX-V6a. It's powering a 5.1.2 or 7.1 configuration with a 9 speaker setup. I did get a good deal on the receiver, bookshelf + floor standing klipsch speakers. The only issue is I didn't do enough research to understand how important pre-outs are on a receiver. Obviously pre-outs on a receiver come at a premium and this receiver came with 2 front and 2 zone pre-outs. I have recently acquired a 5 channel power amplifier by Monolith with hopes of powering the 2 front/2surround/center channel, and the Yamaha would power the remaining front presence or surround back. In terms of functionality/reliability, would you suggest/recommend that I would be better off purchasing these adapters or selling this receiver and purchasing a receiver with the necessary pre-outs. I'm kind've stuck at crossroads and need some expert advice regarding this matter. Thanks again for posting such an informative video with alternative methods of running gear without these pre-requisites.
George
Hey George thanks for watching and you comments. Appreciate you supporting my channel. Welcome to the audiophile/cinephile club. Sounds like you have a pretty good set up for a starter, enjoy the heck out of it. To answer your question, I would only get a new or another receiver if I really needed another one for another room or wanted a new feature like more channels, dolby vision, hdmi 2.0 or higher stuff like that. If you’re happy with the receiver you have I’d just get the adapters it would be less expensive as well. This way if you are interested in another receiver you can take your time and research more for the next one. Hope that helps and again, thanks for watching
@@Audiolympian I appreciate your advice my friend. I subscribed to your channel and I'm looking forward to more of your future uploads. God bless you.
@@thechosenone3504 thanks and god bless as well.
You can but it's not really the same thing as having dedicated pre-outs. If you can afford an amp that costs 2x the price of a decent receiver with pre-outs there's no reason why you would not get one that already has them. Thanks for the video though this is good little gadget I didn't know exists
@@Tonyplat98 you’re right. I’d definitely go for a receiver with preouts but there are a lot of people that have great older receivers and they want a little more power. Thanks for watching
Great video... do you know where to find these adapters? I brought 2 but I need another one. They're sold out everywhere. How did you come up with this ?
Thanks for watching. Sorry they are sold out everywhere. I talked to crutchfield and Russound. They told me there is a chip shortage for those. But they did say they would keep me in the loop of when they’ll be back in stock. I came across that adapter online one day and wanted to try it because I had a receiver but I wanted to connect my amp. So I thought this might be something others may want to try. Thanks for commenting.
Question: Did you try hooking up your RCA cables to the ZONE 2 Line Out? Should give you the exact same signal as a dedicated pre-out. Cheers
Yes I have. Several times. Didn’t work. Thanks for watching and commenting
Might have to tell the receiver to send signal to zone2?
@@MARKC0R3 as far as i know zone 2 is just for two speakers, stero. That should be ok if you run a 2.0 or a 2.1 setup for music but not useful for 5.1 or a 5.1.2 setup!
Thank you! My onkyo ht-r393 didn't have any pre outs
You’re welcome. Happy to help. Thanks for watching
Thanks for the excellent video. Do you know where I can find a small case for this? I am only getting one and I'd like to cover it up. Don't know why they couldn't just put it in a simple case.
I’ve thought the same thing. Parts express has lots of cases. You can try them. Thanks for watching
Thank You very much
You’re welcome
It’s about time you made a video that shows the proper way to hook it up the first video was ridiculous. It was just you showing off your sound system and all the toys you have that video didn’t help us at all.. this is the proper way to make a video about that. Thank you you get a thumbs up.👍👍👍👍 that’s all we want to know.
Haha. Sorry about that in the first video. You’re not the first person to tell me that. When I made that video my channel was still quite small very few subscribers, so I was still trying to attract viewers and I didn’t think that many people out there would be that interested in the adapter. Not too long after people were asking me questions about it. That’s when I decided to make another video on it. Hope it helped you out. Thanks for watching
Great video been follow you for very long time. Like other I'm also thinking buy the adapter, but since the adapter only works for 2 front channels, what about the center and 2 sub??? Do they Also sell 5 channels or maybe 1 channel adapter?? Thanks advanced.
Thanks. Appreciate the support. Unfortunately the adapters only come in pairs (stereo) and nothing for subs. I’m always hunting for other options but if you ever come across anything please let me know. Thanks for watching and commenting
Sorry, i am a bit confused...question is about volume levels, if you have surround speakers hooked to receiver and main speakers are powered through amp how do u balance those in terms of volume levels? are there any master volume knob which would control all speakers?or each time when you need to make things louder, you control both knobs (on receiver for surround and on amp for main) and try to find volume balance on the go between them? thanks in advance!
Ok for volume. One thing you can do is lower or raise the speaker’s DB levels in your receiver’s settings as long as your receiver has the ability to do it. Another option would be having an external amplifier with its own volume controls. Not many are like that but a few have them, Crown class d amps come to mind, those have gain controls. So the receiver’s volume knob will control the volume for all the speakers at the same time. I will say this, I use a simple pioneer receiver (75 wpc) and a Sunfire amp (200 wpc) and my system balanced fine after I adjusted the settings a bit in my receiver. Hope that helps and thanks for watching and commenting.
I just came across this video and it is perfect for my question I’ve been having for quite some time. The only question I have is… does having these adapters affect the performance of the power or will it sound different from it hooking up directly from an A/V to amplifier connections? Thanks for this info. It truly does help.
Glad to have helped you. Interesting question, I had the same thought. No it didn’t seem to have an effect on the sound but I did notice a difference on sound based on the receiver it used being I had the adapters connected in 3 different systems, same amps different receivers Denon, Onkyo and pioneer. Denon had more midrange, Onkyo more bass and pioneer had more high-frequency, hope that helps. Thanks for watching
@@Audiolympian those differences could be explained as them being the difference between brands and their characters and not so much because of the adapters. I’d be interested in seeing an analysis of an A/B testing between the output of the power through the adapter versus directly from receiver to amplifier and see if the output is the same. Keep up the good work. I’m always listening.
@@yotaman2112 good idea. I think I’ll do a video on that. Thanks again for the support
Hey there, I have had an issue that my setup requires more power than any decently priced at receiver can handle as I listen loud for extended periods of time for patty’s etc. so I have ended up torching 1 stereo and another one is just an anomoly with what went wrong. Anyways I got a 12ch, 150w rms per channel amplifier but my pioneer elite vsx 43 doesn’t have pre outs. If I was to use this adapter would it still end up pushing the internal amp pretty hard and causing lots of stress on it and heat? I’m trying to avoid that as much as possible here. Thanks!
Man that sucks. I’d love to tell you yes it should be fine since you’re pushing through an amp and basically using your receiver as a preamp but I don’t really know. If it were me I’d get some pretty heavy duty cables and power conditioner so maybe those would burn out first. And maybe you have that already. Wish I had a better answer for you. Good luck.
Hi, I have two questions 1. can you please provide a link to this adapter or similar ones? 2. I have a set of Bose L1s and thinking about badding these to my AV receiver that dose not have the pre outs. Do you think this may work? Thanks.
I put the link here in the comments on eBay. But you can find them on Amazon too. The Bose speakers should work as long as you can connect them to the amp. You might need to get creative but should work. Hope that helps thanks for watching
Doesn't Zone 2 have pre-out or line level output that you could use? I realize that you are demonstrating the functionality of the product, but it may be a good idea to say "ingore" zone 2 for this demonstration.
Good tip. Yes zone 2 do have preouts but for some reason it doesn’t push amps. Idk why. And if it does it’s usually only stereo. Thanks for watching
...if you pause this video at 2:34 mins. In the bottom righthand corrner...
It literally says "zone 2, subwoofer, line out, PRE OUT" !!!
Thanks for watching
I have a Paradigm PDR-10 v2 subwoofer, and a JVC-RX-517V. What would be the best way to connect this subwoofer, if I have front speakers, and surround sound speakers? The subwoofer has a low level input, and a right/lift red/black speaker level input. The receiver does not have a subwoofer pre out, or a line level output for a subwoofer. It has speakers 1 and 2 line level outputs(not A and B), a center channel out, and surround sound speaker line outs. Could I hook both the subwoofer and fronts in the same ports on the receiver, or would connecting with the surrounds work better?
I would connect the subwoofer using the high level inputs (the red and black inputs) on the back of the sub. So you would take speaker wire from your receiver (front, left and right) and connect them to the red and black speaker input on the sub. Then take another set of speaker wires from your sub’s speaker output to your front main speakers. That will power up you sub when you turn on your receiver. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching.
I'm trying to use an amp for just the low end with subs. Can I still run the high end speakers off the reciever? And if so would I just double up the wire and have one going to the speakers amd one going to the adapter?
You could do it that way but when you add wires to speaker terminals it breaks down the ohms and could damage the receiver. The better solution would be to connect the high end of the speakers in series or parallel. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
How did you get the speaker wire in the clips? I feel like it's going to break the clip if I open it all the way.
Just that way. open it all the way up. I should have mentioned that it does feel that way but it won’t break. Use some force but be conservative. I’ve done it quite a few times none of mine broke. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
Ok I recently bought Bose 901speakers and it has an active equalizer to be used with it, question what’s the difference of that with a typical equalizer in relation to the 901s ?? I have a Yamaha HTR 5630 but it has no pre amp in or outs OR tape monitor in and out, how do I correctly connect the active equalizer to where every thing I may connect to receiver benefits from the equalizer ?? It does have an MD/CD-R in and out as well as VCR in and out and others, what do I do ?? Thanks
Ok this is a good challenging question. First off I believe the equalizer for the Bose should have a section for amplifier input. So according to your Yamaha that doesn’t have preouts you definitely will need the adapter to connect them. Now, I be never used those speakers before so I’m not sure if they can hook up directly without the equalizer. If it can and you choose not to use the equalizer you would possibly still need an amplifier to power them properly as I know those speakers do need some juice. Now to answer you other question about the difference of the Bose equalizer and others. Think of the Bose equalizer as a specific crossover unit made just for those speakers. Could you use another equalizer?. maybe, but it’s probably not going to control the sound the way it’s intended. I’ve know the 901’s to be great speakers but I’ve also heard they are fussy and need to have the right settings to reach potential. Hope that helps. If you have any other questions feel free to ask. Thanks for watching
I bought one of these last year and saved it in the box never used until I got my emotiva basX amp today. I hooked everything up and the left channel(speaker) has a very very faint buzzing noise with 0 sound when playing anything. The right channel(speaker) works perfectly fine. Again I’ve checked every wire and every connection. I believe it’s the adpater and I must buy another. Any thoughts? Thanks.
Amps usually have a slight buzz sound when connecting. It comes from the transformer inside. It’s usually caused by some grounding issue on the power line. They can be a pain to try and get rid of completely. You could get another adapter and see if that works if not it’s your amp not that there is anything wrong with your amp again just a grounding issue. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching and commenting
How do you trigger the amp to turn on when you turn on the avr? All my equipment is in a closet so don’t want to have to open the door and then turn amp manually.
Depends on how your amp triggers. My specific amp is triggered from the rca signal others use the trigger output from the receiver. If the receiver and amp have those capabilities, some don’t and need to be turned on manually. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
I have another question.....Will I still be able to adjust the speaker settings in the reciever to fine tune the treble and vocals if hooked up like this to an external amplifier?.
Yes.
hi. I have Onkyo 473 atmos 3.1.2. Can I add 2 more chanels to get my back speakers? I did no understand how you add more chanels when you plug the wires in the main amp in the same place where other cables should go. So confused :-(
Sorry for the mix up. No this process and adapter doesn’t add more channels. It just allows you to be able to amplify the current channels for more power. Thanks for watching
Is it possible to apply a vintage graphic equalizer to an amplifier 5.1 without preout?
Good question. It might work. I’ve done it before but it sounded horrible. Good luck. Let me know if you do it. Thanks for watching and commenting
I've got another question to your first answer. Thanks
You can always ask anything anytime. I’ll get to it as soon as possible
Can I use the exact same adapter to hook up a second av receiver?...Or is this only intended for an external amplifier? My Denon doesnt have preout...it only has sub out...
Hmmm interesting question. I would think yes if your using the second receiver for amplification and it has a
2/5.1/7.1 rca inputs. But I can’t say for certain it would work. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
Would this work with over head speaker? I have a 9ch AVR the i currently running 5.2.4 Dolby Atmos i was thinking to get this line converter to run those over head speakers.
Yes it should as long as the receiver has overhead channel speaker options. It will work fine. Thanks for watching
A Loc does the same thing. I got a kicker loc for like 10 bucks and I’m running 2 crown xls1500’s bridged out to 4 olms on 2 bic American 15 three ways from a Yamaha r-s201.
Cool. Thanks for the tip. Thanks for watching
@@Audiolympian I think I’m gonna try that adapter to see if I can get better sound outta my setup. I’ll keep ya posted.
@@Tjluberda cool. I’m interested to hear your results
Thank you! I am being given a Sony stereo amplifier. I have a Sony 5.1 AVR and it seems it is not putting the power out on the front left and right channels, but the center is plenty loud. My AVR does not have pre-amp outs though.
Is this modification going to lessen the demand on the AVR amplifier?
Can I leave the center channel on the AVR or should I try and run it off the stereo amp? It does have a zone A and B that you can run at the same time and some people do two stereo sets or have that send the signal a sub because this stereo receiver is technically a 2.0 not a 2.1.
Can I leave the Sub on the AVR?
Do you leave your amplifier volume control to max and then control master volume via AVR only?
Hey @nathanaelcole8466 thanks for the questions. So no this set up will not lessen the load of the receiver because it uses the existing signal after output. You can leave the center on the receiver but it will have lesser volume than the speakers connected to the amp. But if it’s very noticeable or not will depend on your amp. For example I use a sun fire amp with 200 watts per channel and my center channel is just connected to my receiver and the difference of sound is noticeable but not unbearable, for me anyway. Also my amps don’t have volume controls but if the did I’d have them all the way up and use the receiver for sound controls. And yes leave your sub on the receiver, as long as it’s a self powered sub. If it’s a passive sub then you may want to connect to an amp. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
You're the man! Thank you for the quick and thorough answers. I ordered one and will have my new stereo later tonight to start messing around with. @@Audiolympian
@@nathanaelcole8466 you’re welcome. Appreciate the support. Hope it works well for you
I have a 7 channel Denon AVR S960H that currenty powers/drives my 5.1 speakers (2 fronts, 1 center, 2 surrounds and 1 sub woofer) but I am considering getting an external power amp (BasX A5 power amp) for more power. Kindly help me on how to get this connected correctly, considering that I plan to hook all of the 5 speakers to the external amp while I leave the sub woofer to be driven/pushed by the AVR. Please let me know how many adapters needed as well. The Denon AVR S960H doesn't have preouts. Thank you.
Awesome project you working on. It will sound great. For what you want you’ll need 3 adapters with one of you adapters only using 1 rca output. Feel free to ask anything anytime.
So glad you made this video, and that I found it! Thank you!! I have an old school Pioneer 1080 SX with JBL HP 520’s and a pair of JBL Studio 590’s connected. I scored a Marantz MM7025 amplifier, at an auction. Once I got home I realized the problem of not being able to just piggyback it for even more power. So this adapter should do the trick. I do have a question though. The Pioneer unit has some RCA jacks on the back that say “preamp”, and they have jumpers connecting, or bridging them. Can the Marantz unit just be connected to those? I’m not sure what those are for. Thank you again for this video!!
You’re welcome. I have seen those preamp I believe those are for an external preamp that may have more features than the receiver maybe. Older receivers had the capability of connecting other components to save money and space. Today they are pretty much all in one. You can try connecting the Marantz to it and see what happens but it might be overkill or not work. Thanks for watching
Man I tried everything before finding your video,I just need a adapter thank you very much!.
@@steven3517 you’re welcome. Thanks for watching
@@Audiolympian Thank you too,it does work!.I personally struggled with the adapter though,as it is small and my work space is cramped.I do appreciate your video very much,if you happen to come across a adapter that's bigger easier to use please do a video on it also..I will keep subscribed and keep my ears and eyes open,thank you again!.
@@steven3517 you’re welcome. You’re not the only person to suggest a bigger adapter being. I always keep my eyes out for one. If you find one let me know I’ll certainly get it and do a video on it
I have tons of tuners sitting around this would work to hook two of them up to combine the power right?
It’s possible. Could be a fun project
So glad I found your video. How would I do this with the emotiva bas x a5? I have a denon s750h and didn’t realize it doesn’t have pre out for an amp.
You would use three adapters but one adapter you’ll only use 1 channel, if you’re doing a 5 channel set up. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
@@Audiolympian thanks for responding. I don’t quite understand as I am new to this setup. Is it possible to do a further updated video for reference?
@@GrandNoobHeIs actually this was my updated video but I do get asked many more questions so it may be time to update the video again.
@@GrandNoobHeIs Hi ,just follow carefully the video , is a piece of cake
Does using a line level adapter take load off of the AVR? Like completely for that output?
Good question, no it doesn’t take the load off. Thanks for watching
Great vid! How would configure this if wanted to do just the center channel?
Thanks. If you only want to use one channel just use one side of the device. That’s how I use it for my 5 channel set up. 3 devices = 2 left channels, 2 right channels and one center. The cool thing is you have an extra input for the future if you want to add another speaker. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
@Audiolympian, thank you so much for this video but am still confused. I bought the Russound but still don't know what to do. I currently have a Marantz Cinema 70s so would want to use the pre outs to power my LR with another AVR (Sony Mutiki STR KM7, 7.1),they don't come with pre outs. So I have the RCA Cables coming from the Pre outs of the Marantz to the pre outs part of the adapter, so what do I connect to the speaker wire part of the adapter, is it the speakers wire directly for the speakers or the speaker wires goes to the Sony AVR? Not sure, confused
No problem my friend. Happy to help. You take the actual speaker wire from your marantz to the speaker wire inputs on the adapter. Then you connect your rca cables from the adapter to your amplifier. Then your speakers connect to your amp.
@@Audiolympian thank you so much but where on the Sony Amplifier(AVR)? don't forget there are no Pre outs on the Sony. Do I connect the RCA Cables to the Sony Amp/AVR and where do I connect the speakers on the Amp/AVR.
@@chumaiwugoh2964 are you trying to connect and AVR to another AVR?
@@chumaiwugoh2964 if you are trying to use and avr to power your LF speakers, the Sony needs to have RCA INPUTS in order to use the signal. If your AVR doesn’t have the inputs then it may not work. But you could try connecting to the cd input or possibly Aux input on the sony. Hope that helps
@@Audiolympian yes, to spread the load. LR Channels on the Sony (including the subs because my subs are passive). 50watts per channel from the Marantz I think is abit low, need to always crank it up to much..
Hi, I have one question. Right now i have a subwoofer connected to my receiver is it still going to work or i still have to buy another adaptor for it in order to work? Thanking you in advance.
Yes it will work. As long as your sub is connected to the low level interconnect output on your receiver (rca) No need to purchase another adapter for the sub as the Lfe signal is generated from a different circuit. Hope that helps and thanks for watching
I have the Denon 760H recently bought it from Costco 7.2.It does not have pre outs. How can I add extra speakers to the receiver. If I buy an amp and this connector can I able to add speakers for a 7.2.4 system. Can I do parallel speaker wire connections to the existing speaker out in the receiver,one going to speaker and the other going to this connector then to amp and from amp to the extra speakers needed ?
Yes you can do that but keep in mind the extra channels won’t be dedicated channels for a true 11 speaker set up it would still just be 7 channels split up because the receiver is designed for 7 channel output decoding. So basically which ever channels you parallel will have the exact same sound coming from both speakers. But at the very least it would give you more sound through more speakers. Hope that helps and thanks for watching
Hey... I have two active studio monitors which I want to connect to an AVR (without pre out). Is this converter really safe? I mean will they blow out my active speakers if this converter fail?
I can’t say for sure that you’re equipment is 100% safe but I can say all the adapter does is reroute the signal. So it doesn’t add extra power or gain at all. If it fails then the signal stops. I also would say it would be pretty hard to make the adapter fail as it’s just a few caps and resistors and a pcb. Again it doesn’t need power or have transformers so I’d say it’s pretty safe. I’ve been using mine for about 3 years now and no issues. Hope that helps, thanks for watching
Hello!
I dont know anything about preamps, or so, Now I have hometheater AVR at home, hooked up with my 5.2 channel speakers.
But I do have a second older 5.2 channel AVR as well that I am not using anymore.
Now I wonder, can I use the second hometheater AVR as a amplifiers for my left and right channel only?
Like: left and right speaker channel out from receiver 1, to adapter (in this video) to let say BD RCA input on receiver 2. And then left and right speaker output to my left and right speakers.
Theoretically yes it can work the way you describe however, I’ve never done it so I can’t say for certain but I have known people in the past use a second receiver to power speakers. You may have to go in the receiver’s settings and adjust things but overall it should work. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
The first Avr , the one with the pre outs . Which model is that one . The one with the tape 1 and tape 2. Thanks again.
It is the Denon AVR 3600. A very old model but a beast.
Hi, if i have a 7.1 receiver but only want to power the 2 front speakers, do still have to hook up 3 adapters? at 10:45 you say " now if you have a 5.1 or 7.1 you will need 3 adapters". I ordered 1 adapter just now from crutchfield. I will see how it goes. I am hoping I don't have to buy 3 adapters to just get it to work on a 7.1 receiver, because then I am spending $120 basically for 3 adapters...might as well just use that money towards a new receiver with preouts.
Yes that will work fine. One adapter for just the 2 speakers works fine. If that’s all you want to do is power front mains. What I meant is if you wanted all 5 channels connected to an external amp then you would need 3 adapters.
Thanks for watching
I have a Onkyo ht-r393 and i want to connect a powered sub PSW10 but my Onkyo doesn't have a sub out RCA, but has a subwoofer output wired for passive sub, how can I make it work? Do you think this adapter will work? Thank you
Good question. I believe it should work. Being it’s just a device that transfers a signal. If you get it today d be interested in knowing your results. Thanks for watching
Does it have a level control??
Think that ur amp can push 80w and the line out converter is capable of delivering pure audio to the rca without over power music..
Then my receiver is delivering 150w and i am connecting that l.o.c for my receiver, then will my music overpowered to the rca and cause clipping or distortion.
Please answer me.. becz all the car audio loc has a level control...
The device does not have a level control, but that’s because all the control and adjustments can be done from the receiver. Which you will need to do, to get the sound to your liking. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
Hi, can I use my Subwoofer PreOut in Yamaha AVR RXV477 to pass signal to Schiit DAC > Preamplifer > Power Amplifier > Speakers. This way, I will be able to use my AVR as a streaming transport for Apple Airplay?
You certainly can try it however I don’t think it would work because the subwoofer preout is just going to pass an LFE signal not a full range signal. Thanks for watching
I wanted to add a extra pair of speakers to my system, ( I already have a Bose cubes 5),and I was planning to buy an amplifier with 6 channels but I realize my receiver do not have preout. How many of this ADP I will need per extra pair of speakers to get an amplifier hook up to a receiver DENON AVR-540BT?
Each adapter is for 2 speakers. So if you want a 6 speaker system then you’ll need 3 adapters. Thanks for watching and hope that helps
Hi i am very satisfied with the Russound adapter that you mentioned .I have installed it to a Denon avr and connected an Emotiva basx a3 power amp.It woeked perfectly without any issues.Again i have a question is there a way that i can add 2 more atmos speakers to my Denon 2700 avr.So i will havea cnfiguation of 5.2.4 instead of 5.2.2.THANK YOU for ineresthing videos andvery interesthing stuff.
You’re welcome. Happy to help. The only way to get more 5.2.4 set up is if the receiver has the capability. You could split out a couple channels to add speakers but it would be a true 5.2.4 because the extra channels wouldn’t have their own signal so you could daisy chain a couple of speakers or connect them in series. The danger there is you’ll drop the ohms of the receiver and if it gets too low it could damage it. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
I added 2 extra atmos by serial connection and don’t see any difference because the original signal divided between 2 speakers, hence the power is split.
so if using this for the center speaker, which side of the adaptor do i put the two wires to?
You can use either side of the adapter. Just make sure you connect the rca cable to the same side (left to left or right to right) hope that helps. Thanks for watching
Hey! I just want to know is speakers to 2 RCA line output converter in/out high/low will also work on a 8 channels amplifier to the receiver?
It should as long as you have it connected correctly. You’d need 4 adapters for 8 channels
Thanks you I will do!
@@shawnbrown4359 thanks for watching
Hello and thanks for this great video. I have a DENON AVR X2400H that does not have preouts, so I should get some such device to increase the power. The Russound ADP-1.2 Speaker Level to Line Level Adapter that you recommended does not ship to my country, so please let me know if there is another similar device that can be purchased in Europe. Thanks again and greetings to you.
Thanks for the support. Sorry you can’t get this over there. Some people have used a similar device used in cars for car audio. Nothing specific but perhaps that could be available to you. The only thing I’ve warned people on is the car device is only designed for 12 volts. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
Please help me with some advise.. Is the adapter realy needed.. I can't get this adapter where I am. What if you use Speaker wire to RCA with no adapter.. Would that still work or are there any down sides.
I have a Denon X-2700H with no pre out. Want to add a additional amplifier to my 5.1.2 system.. Any advise would be appreciated
Others have asked that. I really don’t know. All I can say is the adapter uses capacitors, diodes and rectifiers. So I’m guessing they have something to do with the signal transfer so without those it may not transfer the signal properly. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching
Hey when hooking up multiple channels where would i plug the 2nd set of rca plugs in? Was looking at getting the pyle pt8000ch amp
It depends on the amplifier. As long as it has multiple rca inputs that’s where they go. They can go in any input, just make sure the speaker is connected to the proper amp channel. Hope that helps.
Could you recommend a good 4 channel amp that would work?
@@jacobcreeden5280 of course depends on your budget, emotiva make good amps at decent prices. Some older used anthem amps. Those are fairly cost efficient amps.
Hi with a reciever like mine ,it’s Pioneer -vsx 4012 Dolby surround w equalizer t has front rear center inputs for speakers and it’s says 380 watt .I thought it would be more powerful than it is I’ve got 2 dj speakers 10 “ Mtx thunder hooked up to front but I turn up and it shuts off ? There 250 watt speakers .I took one away ,now I plugged 1 mtx dj speaker to channel A or B and I have 2 Polk audios do I plug the Polk audios into Sourround or center or front Lol sorry I’m confused if u had any input I’d gladly appreciate it thanks Godbless
It depends on which channel you have the Mtx hooked to (center or fronts) I would probably put the mtx on the center and the polks on the fronts. And use A speaker selector not B.
They need to make a better version of that little adapter...
All I'm missing all the amplifiers now lol
Haha. Couldn’t agree more. Thanks for watching
I have a denon receiver with two zones. I want to add additional speakers in my backyard pool but be able to play the same music as where my receiver is located. I don't have the preouts on my reciever. Can I do whay you did in the video and connect the receiver to a whole home amplifier to be able to play the same music on my addional speakers and do you think they will be a delay between the music inside and outside the house by doing so?
It should work as long as your home amplifier has the additional channels. As far as a delay in sound, that would depend on the distance, which could be adjusted by the receiver. Other than that I don’t think there would be a delay. Hope that helps and thanks for watching
Thanks for the help and quick reply!
@@lquint02 you’re welcome