KILLED HIS YARD…DEAD!! Competing Seeders! Which Seeding Approach Will Customer Choose?
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- Опубликовано: 28 мар 2023
- Neighbor Rex killed his entire yard. Tractor Time with Tim takes the Solectrac Electric tractor with Woods Seeder and the Ventrac with the seeder aeravator for Rex to choose which tractor seeder he thinks will do the best job reseeding his 4 acre yard.
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I'm very interested in this one! Thanks Tim!
Rex learned a lesson with the fall treatment, he is great to watch doing his thing. I'm glad you helped him with your equipment and support. A thanks goes out to all of you for sharing a great video.
Great job keep up the great work love your videos thank you
I've never seen a no-till approach to lawn seeding, so I'm really interested in seeing the results once May comes around.
At least he knows his sprayer has good even coverage with his sprayer because it's all super dead. Leaving the dead foliage will act as though you put straw mat down. Holds moisture! Great video thanks Tim.
Agreed on both counts. Great sprayer coverage, and this was our plan for the no till approach.
@Tractor Time with Tim did you sell the original tractor cab? Will it fit the new 2023 1025 with the forward leaning rops
One good way to check the rate is to set the gate opening, lift it up on concrete, run the seeder for a timed amount of this like 1 minute, now you know the sq of ground covered by the length of time times the feet per second. Now x the width & you know Sf. Sweep up all the seed and weigh it. Now you have sf & lbs to determine rate.
:) Rex has the new record. I only did it on 2.25 acres. But Silver lining was it needed a new seeding to get different cultivars and fix lots of grub damage. Also was good excuse to get some more equipment such as an EcoLawn top dresser. Sure was a good way to get whole town and HOA talking and wondering what the heck this guy is doing. Must know something we don't is some of the rumors I heard :) But within 3 months was best looking lawn in the area. Sometimes you gotta make it worse before it can look better.
I think if I had to pay 4k to reseed a lawn, I would never spray whatever he sprayed again. It's obviously not friendly, whatever it is, if it kills your grass off.
Great video!
Man, BOTH those seeders are a great way to go! I've done alot of core aeration and seeding and even more preferably slit seeding over the years, but both of these I know work well. I hope the best for his results, and wish this would've been done early last fall. But after you mentioned it was done inadvertently (with a selective herbicide as opposed to glyphosate), that explained that. Thanks for the video!
I love the aeravator. It’s my favorite aeration and seeding solution.
Can't wait to see the grass when it comes back!! Hope you guys are doing well!!
Hi Tim you could put a wireless reverseing camera on the front of the seeder and a screen by the bonnet and also it's useful for other jobs too
I spent 2 hours with my aeravator/seeder and a scale calibrating it according to the ventrac manual. I took it out to use it and I was way to light on seed. I gave up and just changed the gate from 27 to a guess of 55 and it worked perfect. Trial and error is a lot faster set up method for me from now on.
Yep!
Since I bought my new 2032r, I find myself watching more and more of your videos. Messick's is another one and "Outdoors with the Morgan's. I watch mostly tractors, wood cutting, chainsaws, sawmill, etc. This is my retirement plan when I finally retire from teaching.
Congratulations on the new tractor!
Love the seeding videos! I also spend enough on seed that I can’t hardly believe it- certainly my customers get sticker shock. I’ve used my Aeravator to “no till drill” and works fine. Works great actually! Haven’t tried to frost-seed with it, but I do not see any issues. The seed will weather just fine, when Mother Nature says it’s time to sprout, it will sprout and germinate just fine. Frost seeding is an accepted practice, there’s no reason to worry. Read some earlier comments, but I wouldn’t worry. Really wish we could have gotten a side-by-side, but totally and completely understand customer/client direction. FYI, I have the seed box (Seed-A-Vator) on my Aeravator and I still on occasion use my walk behind broadcast spreader to accurately measure my seeding rate. Just something about micromanaging seeding rates for me 🤣. On a chemically treated turf from the previous growing season, using an overseeding/ frost seeding application approach is fine. Hopefully you can post a video of the results in a month or so? If there are bare spots or areas that need re-application, don’t worry. For such a large area a follow up spot treatment would be expected. As a follow up treatment is more economical than using a 1.5-2x seedling rate. The cost of seed just wouldn’t justify doing that on such a large area. Keep the seeding videos coming! Cheers from the Bulldog 🍻
I'm glad I found out about the discount with Advanced Turf Solutions. Of course, I bought a couple bags of Nature Safe Organic Fertilizer for the garden last week from them down here in Kentucky but if I ever buy anything else, I'll certainly ask for the discount! It was $40 a bag for 50# bags so I'm not out a lot. Not like $37 a bag for 24 bags worth!!!! Whew!
It may only be here in Lebanon, IN.
I did no till last spring with my pasture and nothing came up. The seed went in too deep, needs to be very shallow, less than 1/4" deep. Since it was for a hay field, that was a $250 mistake.
No-till is a good choice but you need the right tools to get soil contact. Especially with grassseeds which should laid off just underneath the mulch or maximum 1 cm deep. A two disc seeder (vredo), a crossslot (Novag, Crossslot), a spezial mulcher with seeding (Coverseeder Müthing) or the most common way in Grasslandkeeping would be a harrow/tine with a roller. There are single tine seeders like the Güttler GreenMaster tine seed 300 but a normal harrow to create a litte bit of fine soil and maybe with a Ripperboard (against molehills) would be enough to get decent and the cheapest way. Best season for seeding would be fall.
But I am curios how this went. It creates some fine soil and the roller might be enough.
The no till approach worked beautifully! Rex has incredible stand of grass.
Can't wait to see the results! :)
My choice would have been Vinny as well 100% looks you had the right conditions to plant as well! In my experience planting grass. The best results is having some form of ground engaging equipment to help get the seed into or mixed into the dirt.
I have also just threw seed on my back yard before it rained and that's worked as well only because my yard stays wet a little longer.
I think the woods seeder would have worked well but even better if you had bear ground. Plus the dead grass will help some with rain from washing the seed away
Great video hopefully you can go back and show us some results soon always like when Rex guest stars his a good operator definitely picked up some how to use a box blade tricks over the years from watching him on ttwt
i plan to use a broadcast spreader on the back on the tractor to spread grass seed this spring, i been wanting one for seeding. i hope it works out
It is great to have neighbors with equipment. There is two JD 1 series near me and a new neighbor has a larger Kubota.
I have a 3 point seed a vator that I run on my 3720. Best seeder I have ever used.
What a blow to end up killing all the grass. Sorry that happened to him, but as you pointed out, it does create a way to do no till reseeding. Hope it works out and perhaps we’ll see the results this Spring. Blessings.
As a retired landscape installation contractor, Both would work in your situation. The Woods has a chart to set the opening in lbs per 1000 sq ft. If you know how many lbs per 1000 feet you can lay a tarp down or run the seeder over a measured area on concrete, just sweep up the seed or with the tarp just roll up and measure. Mixed seed you go by % of the larger seed (rye grasses). The sod will help keep the seed in contact with the ground. Plus protect the seed as it germinates.
...or just wing it and adjust as you learn :-)
Is that something I can rent to pull behind my 1025r?
Need more Rex videos 💪
I like your comment about enjoying the sound of the tractor, what no silly music that no one want to listen to. I for one am glad that you don't overlay music onto all your videos. Vinny seemed to be the better choice since the ground was very damp and he wouldn't leave all the ruts that sparky would have left.
Another trick cut half the Seed per square feet and do On large and long both way
Looking good old boy I think he may be overlapping a little to much at the price of seed you have to be careful. That's just my observation 😅.
Yea…I think so too!
Hi Tim, great video!
The Aeravator manual has calibration info.
Yes, but depends on speed, and all seed sizes seem to be different.
If I used it frequently, and used the same seed consistently, as a pro would do, I would be better at knowing the precise settings.
Great video Tim.
Yep,gras seed is crazy expensive. Which is why I have seeder too. Tossing it out on the ground hoping for the best is nuts.
I traded off my PTO powered seeder for a new frontier/woods version like yours. Mine has the front disk rather then PTO driven knives.
Looking forward to trying it out this spring.
I have the disks as well. Used them in all last year’s seeding. Decided I would try the spiked rollers this season.
I was thinking you had disk on yours before. Looking forward to seeing how you like the spikes .
After fighting slip clutch issues with my old seeder all last year, and having had similar battles with my old tiller’s slip clutches among other issues with that tiller.
I have sworn off or rather traded off any implements that were ground engaging and PTO powered .
Well on second thought, I guess I do still have my 3pt PTO post hole digger. Lol
My dad just said ‘tighten the slip clutch so that it doesn’t slip’! In other words, render the slip clutch useless so that you can get the job done!
Tossing it out has always worked for me. Keeping it watered is the most important thing, its grass not a garden show rose.
@@atodaso1668 I suspect it comes down to different situations for different people. I have a near 10 acre yard, so watering it is not ever going to be feasible or really even possible. Which was the similar acreage situation for Tim's friend in this video.
I am also in an area where Bermuda grass is far more common then fescue, and to get fescue to grow here and many do have fescue lawns in residential areas, those typically have sprinkler systems, but were talking less then an acre of law in most of those residential neighborhoods.
Bermuda is more or less the native grass here and really needs good seed to soil contact and typically can take a year to see much growth or spread from each planting.
Well least his soil is getting aerating.
Wow that yard is sad but I think it's an opportunity. Instead of laying down new grass put it in corn or beans... less mowing. When I lived in OKC while in the USAF the grass would turn that golden brown every summer. There were companies that would spray paint brown grass green. Maybe that's a good option!
i am doing a place about 3 or 4 acers for corn to feed chickens for a friend can not wait to start
U could put the grass harrow behind the the tractor as your seeding
Interesting idea!
I'm curious what the seed mix was. A lot of seed doesn't like to be buried deep such as in the bottom of aeration holes and has a higher germination rate if either on the surface or very shallow embedment with mulch. Did you notice by any chance what the recommendations were on the bag? Depending on the seed type and what the recommended sewing procedure is I would guess that the other seeder would have worked better, especially given that you left the dead sod as mulch. with the short spikes you would have gotten seed embedment no greater than an inch which is typically ideal.
Well, with this one, some on top, some deeper.
#1 crop in the USA.. lawn!
Can't beat Vinnie with that attachment, right Christy?
It's time to mow some grass here Tim, but the 3" rain we got last Friday the 24th didn't help. Too soft now and will rut up the yard.
You must be a few days ahead of us. We’re not quite ready to mow.
Do you think that if you could have burned the dead turf off of the top before you seeded, that would have helped the seed to ground contact? Luv ya's from Kentucky!!!
We want the old straw on there to hold in the moisture as the grass emerges.
Be careful, if whatever he sprayed is suspended in the soil and not broke down this may cause the seed not germinate, read the label!
Really nice seeder Tim. I'm cheap. Still use my father's old Van Brunt 14 drop dill to overseed. It's clumsy, heavy, and your soil needs to be at the correct moisture, but it works great. Thanks for the videos. Your equipment is second to none.
Where is the Link to the video: how to open a bag?
21:19 in this video: ruclips.net/video/w1SUGXVFz4A/видео.html
is there a version of this type of seeder that can be pulled by a 1025R
Yes. 1st Products.
Thats alot of seed $ !
My neighbor killed a 50 year old stand of St. Augustine and planted Bermuda. shm!
Tim I use same kind of Seeder Wood (mine is Landpride) and I think the Wood do better job
What did he spray his yard with? I see nothing green at all.
I’m not sure…whatever it was…it worked :-(
Yikes!! Grass seed is really expensive. Seems like Sparky missed out again. Need to work that electric tractor and get some data under hard use.
We’ll get there.
Sparkey McVolt failed this audition. What product did he spray to kill grass?
I didn’t understand, at first I thought he killed the grass on purpose. Did Rex price, laying down sod?. Your machine seems to do well, not churning up mud. Good luck.
Accident
So what actually killed his lawn? I don't want to make the same mistake.
I always figure seed is the cheapest part. Dump er on.
Isn't this in the Midwest? What a waste of money on fertilizer.
If you’re seeding grass wearing a winter jacket, gloves and hat I can guarantee the soil temp is not high enough. Likely most of that seed will be wasted.
Bunk. Gotta have it out there ready for the warm up.
@@TractorTimewithTim If I were spending $4k I would rather be closer to that 50 degree soil temperature. Just a hunch but you probably will be reseeding come August/September. Trust me, I’m an expert in many failed spring seeding ;)
Hard to predict future weather in spring. If we plant too late, the weather is too dry to keep seed alive.
BTW, last fall was the worst fall ever for fall seeding here. No rain from August until last few days of October.