I'm Glad o found romantic types that are not stuck on the floral girly style. I was Very sad I was a romantic and couldnt find clothes on the classic/basic side.
I get you. Sometimes it feels complicated to customize another style in order to fit your body type. Kate Winslet is a great example of how to wear classic-romantic lines.
Same!! I hated learning that I was romantic. I don’t like ruffles and girly outfits that show off too much of the body. I prefer more discreet clothing yet flattering and neutral tones
I'm 100% romantic body type but live a clean and basic style.. all that girly, playfull recommandations frustrated me so much.... I am sooo happy that I found that video 🥰
This is very helpful & useful information. Not everyone with a Romantic body type or more curvaceous/voluptuous figure wants to dress like a Sex Kitten or in overly frilly, ruffles & bows. There is room for individual expression if you know your line & proportion. Would love more videos exploring this topic 👍
@bbh for sure- and you know nearly every Marilyn photo is extremely posed- not that she isn't actually curvy but it is a factor as to why she appears so much that way.
I think all romantics can go back and forth between this esthetics.The defining difference from my own experience is a contrasting brow. A darker brow, helps bring this sophisticated "dryness" to a romantic face. Whereas a harmonious brow that doesn't contrast the skin to much ,brings out a lot of softness and ingénue qualities of the facial features. I think this two are very good examples for that. Edit:Also a matt or luminous complexion can create the same effect.
Yeeees! I'm a romantic and I want to get my eyebrows microbladed. I've been torn between getting a high contrast blunt brow shape or a low contrast rounded shape because depending on which I have between the two, my aesthetic dramatically changes. I thought I was being weird for making such a fuss about something potentially insignificant but as a wise modelling agent once said: eyebrows are really important, they frame the face.
samkele myeni Personally l word go with a softer brow because you can always add to them if you want. Also they would look very harmonious when you're not wearing make up.
I'm realizing most people are some sort of hybrid between a couple of the types, and no two people ever or rarely do fit perfectly in the same category the same way.
This is my personal philosophy 🙌🏻 The archetypes are meant to serve as a springboard and give us some absolute truths to lean on. But it doesn’t mean that we’ll all fit into some box. It’s about finding your unique balance ☯️
Elyssa Yes, I’ve been coming to this conclusion as well. I was really struggling as to whether I was Soft Natural or Romantic, I have broad shoulders, seemingly a lot of B answers, but some could be E, and I have excessive curves, even when I’m thin. My face has also filled out similarly to Kate’s, but I think I have a lot of bluntness overall. Anywho, I appreciate you getting deeper into the comparisons. I also have a lot of classical-esque preferences. So, hmm, I don’t know. Maybe mix all in blender and see what comes out!? 🤷🏻♀️
@@DolceSuono9 Well from what you're saying, you seem to fall exactly into the Soft Natural body type. Some people think that if they have curves, they are romantic and theatrical romantic which isn't true. Soft Dramatic, Fambloyant Natural, Soft Natural, Soft Classic and Soft Gamine can have curves too. Your description reminds me of Scarlett Johannson who's a Soft Natural.
Jasmeen Well, I think I’ve been hung up on my shoulders and unsure, because I’ve always had equal D/E answers, and question if they’re actually more, ie body dysmorphia. I started off thinking soft classic, then sure I was a curvy soft natural. Yesterday I saw pictures of Drew Barrymore and her shoulders are more like mine, and other things too. I tend to wear a lot of SN just for comfort and modesty, maybe I still will, but I won’t really know without trying different shapes on. 🤷🏻♀️
I've read people saying Kate Winslet is a SC, but this video makes me think that she is indeed a R who dresses like a SC and those lines look really good on her due to her dignified features. I heard about your channel through Audrey Coyne and I'm loving it so far.
Thank you! And welcome💛 I think that there’s a few different ways you can slice it among different systems/approaches, but regardless she is curved with poised/dignified essence✨
I just have to say, Of the 3 main channels that cover Body Archetypes yours is by far the best. First I love how you went beyond Kibbe to really understand and explain the methodology of body archetypes in that you established a real foundation. The others just don't delve beyond the surface and seem to only defend his typing even when questionable...But you apply the knowledgeable of your research to go even next level and suggest new archetypes, which is so fun! This is my approach too, I narrow down to my base archetype and then mix and match, experiment in places the test suggest something other than my base type. All that being said, I do wish in this video in particular, if you'd went further and defended the new archetypes by showing images of these two in each others new styles. That would have been very interesting! I feel that most images you used were tilted to make your point. Swapping would've given some balance. Many images come to mind that would work of Beyonce not so many of Kate but I am sure there are some in wilds of Kate that you would consider Glam Romantic. Anyway Great Video Doll!
Thank you and that’s a very valid suggestion. I’ll definitely try to add some more examples of swapped looks to show the given effect and balance my point✨
I like that you point out the subtleties in individuals. Not all romantics are the same nor should wear the same style - same for other types. I agree with your assessment on Winslet's dignified and Beyonce's glam essence.
Please do a video on Stevie Nicks! 💕 I believe she's also a Romantic, as well as one of the most influential musicians on the fashion world. Her gypsy/witch aesthetic is 👌💖
I'm a soft natural and I have such a hard time distinguishing between romantic style and SN style clothing because they both call for draping and rounded circles. This video helped me realize that there is a difference because of the rounded waist into hips, and the placement of cinching/draping. I need more yang, and could maybe pull off a few things Kate wears but definitely not Beyoncé!
I love your own take on the "dignified romantic" and "glam romantic," thinking about my structure and silhouette like that would really help me boil down choosing outfits for different kinds of looks! btw I think I'm a TR :)
I’ve been studying Kibbe for a while (textbook romantic) and this is one of the best videos on romantics. For me especially, I feel I have a strong classic essence that makes some romantic recos (like prints and ruffles) difficult for me to pull off. It’s been this way since I was a child, as my mom is a more is more person and noticed early on that her choices would overwhelm me. Hearing you talk about why Kate isn’t a classic (her curves are so pronounced that they have to be accommodated before anything else) really struck a cord. Yes, I have that classic essence and need to stay somewhat pared back, but my curves have needed first accommodation since I was in 7th grade! I remember middle school was when I realized how differently I was built to the leggy naturals around me. Kibbe has shown me beauty in my form in a way that simplydressing for “hourglass” recommendations never has.
When you mention how Kate prefers Metallica to sparkles, it was like you were reading my fashion story. I always tell my friends I prefer sheen to shine, glow to sparkles. It just works better! Unless it’s a formal event, I can handle some sequins and stones in those moments.
It's great to see someone bring up age as a factor! :) I think it can really change som features, even though it doesn't change your type entirely. I'm a 34-year-old soft natural and I do think that I had some more softness 10 years ago. My figure is still soft, but face isn't as soft as before, so I can definitely see some slight changes. It doesn't mean I'm not SN today, but the yin undercurrent was more pronounced when I was younger.
Yes! This happens to a lot of women and it’s absolutely relevant to bring up. Obviously since Beyoncé started off with a little more ingenue facial features she’s able to pull through more circular shapes as she’s aged and those sparkling details don’t make her look immature! I think the biggest thing is to pay attention to how looks are interacting.....that’s where we start to gain more discernment🙌🏻
Interestingly enough, I have always naturally gravitated to glamorous, big hair, girly clothes, etc. Without meaning to sound full of myself, I have consistently been praised for my fashion sense. But, I was always wishing I looked like my old boss, who wore simple dresses, pants, button up blouses, etc. She always looked so good in her simple, classy outfits, but when I emulated her look, I felt sooo boring in her style. I chalked it up to being short and overweight, while my boss is taller and thinner. But, she always complimented me on my style. Knowing about the Kibbe types now helps me understand why our styles looked great on us but not on each other.
I am really curious about your analysis of hairstyles for different body types since our hair forms the foundational and essential part of our styling and appearance. And please keep going with this particular series on body types and personalization of their style recommendations. Your ingenious interpretation of the whole body type series and essences is very informative and helpful.
I resonate so much with Kate 😍 for the longest time I thought I was a soft classic, because my facial features give of more off a classic vibe, but my round curves always threw me off and I felt shorter, softer und sometimes wider compared to soft classics I realized I’m a romantic but with a more classic face 🥰 I love to get inspiration from her and her style since it suits me perfectly
Your have a very good vocabulary and you use it to advantage. Your descriptions have allowed me to finally capture what Kibbe was saying to women. With your ability to literally paint descriptively using many different adjectives, it's like you have concretized verbally and pictorially what the reader tries to grasp from Kibbe's conceptualizations. Watching your videos has enabled me to clearly see, and even more importantly, understand what is meant with lines, shapes and harmony. WOW!
This helped me a lot! While my body is cookie cutter romantic double curve, not every line in my face is rounded, especially with 33 years and after divorce and everything that happened in the last few years ;)
This was so eye opening, thank you! I think that my body is romantic but I have never felt like I fit that as I am drawn to more classic styles. So maybe I am more of a dignified romantic 😄, thanks again!
Hi Elyssa! I've recently discovered I'm a Soft Natural and I feel videos here on RUclips briefly mention soft naturals, focusing on pure naturals and flamboyant naturals, so I'd really love if you made an in-depth video on Soft Naturals
@@maryg.9581 I wouldn't recommend Merriam if the goal is to understand kibbe - I think she misunderstands him in quite a few aspects. Thats why she decided to use her own system. I think merriam and aly are a little to strict when it comes to the "rules" for each body type. Best "Kibbe-RUclipsrs" in my opinion are elyssa and rita.
If you want to understand the basics of kibbe system Aly art is the answer. The soul of kibbe system as a visceral experience is found in thealignedlover RUclips channel. The experience is on Rita's channel. How to make it your own with style and aesthetic ideas is found here with Elyssa. If you are confused with the test or can't find your type , Merriam can help with different suggestions or different take on .
I'm 100% romantic body type but live a clean and basic style.. all that girly, playfull recommandations frustrated me so much.... I am sooo happy that I found that video 🥰
I love this! I spent 2 years now and ended up with accepting that I am an SD and it fits way better then everythingelse, but to be honest, yes I do have some vertical line but I am smaler then both of these romantics and all though I might taler then I am in pics but IRL you will see that I am moderate... so I decided to dich it all again and follow my gutfeeling. Calling myself talsih, smalisch, Drama-Lama, with a romantic toddler stuck inside me a d dress acording to that 🥰
Elyssa! I’ve been watching videos on this subject for about 3 years now and this video is one of the best I’ve seen. You have a good eye! And you are really good at explaining nuances within a type. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼beautiful!
It's be great if you did a video on Soft Dramatics! I'd love to see how an SD could wear Gamine and Ingenue-type clothing, since I'm an SD who loves those styles.
Love your videos! I share and rewatch some of them, like the last one, Classic Minimalist Chic. Such beautiful explanations, precise and rich in meaning! Wish you could do a video on Soft Naturals, revealing a wider range or two different approaches based on inherent differences within SN.
Absolutely! And thank you so so much for your support! I’m glad you’re getting something out of these videos 💛 I’m a bit of a perfectionist and really try to shoot for quality content. So receiving comments like this is very appreciated!
Can you please do one of these for flamboyant naturals? I feel so turned off by only ever seem the same styles and repetitive cliches, it's like I'm only ever told that my bone structure is manish, asymetrical and that I can only wear rugs and in case I want to be close to feminine it has to be a hippie boho style
Hi Scart! I'd highly suggest checking out this video......I know the title is "Boho" but I showcase styles that are NOT Boho for FN. Also, don't forget about your essence. If wearing more yin prints like florals and soft watercolors truly represent your essence (which I think it does if you're strongly drawn to those things), then by all means do it! Harmony transcends our physical features. You can also check out my pinterest boars.....I try to keep them pretty well rounded. ruclips.net/video/pl91gt2y82k/видео.html
Thank you for this video! I've been struggling to make sense of where I would fit, and overall to figure out any "role models" for, not style, but lines, as I'm very curve dominant, short, but have a mostly yang face. The segment of your description of Kate Winslet finally made sense to me and I found something that sounded like me. Other people who have made videos where Kate is featured, always focus only on the curvy side and round big eyes, and forget all her angularity. Thank you, thank you, thank you!
Very helpful video, thank you! I'm a Romantic with a bit of blunt yang in my face, and was trying to figure out if I was actually a SN. After researching, I realized that I still look best in R lines, but I should accommodate for the somewhat SN appearance of my face. I don't have a name for my style essence yet (like glam or dignified) so that's what I'm working toward. Wait maybe I can be a "Down-to-Earth" Romantic
This is really interesting and helpful! I feel like I'm stuck between romantic and gamine, so it's interesting to see that Kate Winslet is romantic dominant with classic as a secondary.
Great video, Elyssa! I think this is by far the most useful one out of your whole content, as I find myself in a similar position to Kate's (even if with a different body type) and I have always struggled to match my face to my body and incorporate all of the different lines that still coexist in me. This really opened my eyes! looking forward to more videos like this. Keep up the good work, you're amazing!
I believe I have a more "yin" face and hair but I prefer more "yang" clothes as they suit my shoulder line and small butt better, in spite of my large breasts and round arms. Thank you for bringing those those examples because I was fed up with romantics in floral dresses all the time.
I'm a romantic and I live the way Kate Winslet dresses. I need to study get more carefully. I'm a trial attorney and need to dress professionally most days, although I love glam and romantic frilliness too.
It's also possible that Beyonce and Kate Winslet are Soft Dramatic, taller, larger bones, less vulnerable and deecate essence but with pronounced Romantic accent
Thanks a lot of this video! I do hope there will be a romantic with soft yang as well but this video is very comforting. all the TR recommendations felt weird because i like quirky, androgynous and/or bright clothes or uber feminine clothing but with some kind of interest so dressing like marilyn monroe was really not me. i've had a good idea of what looked good on me but this just shows how our lines are just lines. we can incorporate them however we want. i've been able to start picking out lines in clothes i've had for a while that didn't fit me the best and i won't have to second guess about my style anymore. so anything i add will still be me and fit me best as well.
Wooooow this is so cool 🤩 I test as theatrical romantic (and I’ve asked for extra opinions) but I feel like my nose and eyes offer a Natural soft Yang vibe that I need to take into consideration when dressing. They’re rounded but have a definite Yang to them. I would love to get your opinion one day!
This is sooo helpful Elyssa!! Can you please compare 2 or 3 different FGs? I'm an FG and therefore am super interested and I feel like there's a lot of variety of 'looks' or subtypes within FG!
Absolutely!!! I’m moving away from the “Kibbe types” and am focusing more on the 6 main archetypes and illuminating how we can identify our personal yin yang nuances BUT G’s that have nuances of yang are on the list 😉 These individuals vary and so does their style and I honestly can’t wait to address this 🤗
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I was typed as a soft classic yet I think I could be a romantic. I seem to be an even mix of the 2. So I sort of combine. Seems to be working for me, though I do keep my hair smooth and neatly long but wear some romantic jewelry or accessories.
Really interesting approach! I never stopped to think about it! I new that personality would influence the style approach, but I never never really considered working with the different characteristics from the main type in our favour... Great work!
is it possible to do a dedicated video on romantic styling? I am a romantic and find it difficult to style the things "I LIKE" in a way that looks flattering. Because my wides measurements are at my chest and hips (and I like baggy clothes), I always look heavy. I wonder what you'd say about how to balance that!
Great video! But Yang is pronounced like “bang” you’re pronouncing it how “Yong” is spelled. Sorry had to point it out as an Asian who’s last name has Yang in it and people constantly mispronounce it
I am so happy you are taking this approach (flesh and facial features affecting frame) to styling recommendations! Question: To me it seems that all of the other systems that have built on Ms. Northrup’s Yin/Yang philosophy as spectrums describe style suggestions for either either added softness or sharpness to body types. To me, the blunt yang of naturals is different from the sharp yang of dramatics, and so adding extra blunt yang to an archetype frame should have different styling recommendations than adding sharp yang. For instance, what would you recommend for a classic with added blunt yang (a classic with extra “natural features and flesh”) as opposed to one with added sharp yang? (Dramatic classic)? Also, do you think styling suggestions would be different for a classic with extra natural yang than they would be for a natural with extra classic features?
Thanx. I love you videos. They are very informative and I love how you talk about the body types and uplift them. Can you do one on naturals, in particular soft naturals.
I agree to the personal style thing. And Kate is definitely a dignified romantic. Such an accurate term! But for Beyonce, I sometime feel that she is on TR side rather than R. She has delicacy and willowy features rather than broad. I don't know it's just me.
ahhhh this helps soo much... I am a romantic however my facial features are more powerful... like thicker eyebrows and lashes ( my parents are from the middle east) so when I looked at recommendations for romantics... it always seemed a bit un sophisticated on me. Kate Winslet's type is exactly me. Which makeup looks would you recommend then? Because my body is a romantic yet the face is different, so when i do that romantic makeup it looks too " light" on my face
I don't understand why Kate Winslet is an example for a romantic body image. She is quite tall, her facial features are not very rounded, her bones are not petite. I think she is soft natural. I would be very interested what you think about it.
I also don't believe Kate is a Romantic, not rounded enough top half (bust), wears soft classic styles beautifully well. I'm also taking issue with 'dignified romantic' ??... So there's an 'undignified romantic'? In fact, I don't think Beyonce is a 'glam romantic', at 5'7''' probably a soft dramatic'? Or a theatrical romantic maybe? 🤔
I am so happy to hear this...I suspected I was a Romantic but the clothes that were so girly and flowey didn’t feel like me.....but every outfit you showed Kate wearing is definitely ME.....I’m a dignified romantic particularly as I get older!
I identify as a romantic body type and watching your video made me realize that in summer I tend to dress more like Beyonce and in winter like Kate how interesting
@@elyssa_aesthetic why do you think that is, I would love to get your opinion as I tend to jump between the two and at times it can be frustrating planning my wardrobe
Season and mood! If both these aesthetics work well on you then viva la variety! What type of climate do you love in? Also, my summer wardrobe is quite different from my fall/winter wardrobe. But I’m still able to have some pieces that bridge the gap. Maybe take an inventory of your wardrobe and literally try on all your pieces and take photos and see where you can bridge the gap if that’s something you’re looking to accomplish. Just a suggestion.
Love this video, but I had a question: why is Beyonce a romantic and not a soft dramatic? To me, she looks quite tall and she has quite a striking, powerful sort of presence, and I don't really see delicateness from her frame. Maybe I'm missing something here, because she seems to be quite a common example of a romantic
I feel like Kate Winslet looks tall? Like, I look at her and see vertical. I know she has been described as a romantic by a lot and it’s pretty agreed on that she is, but I always go back to “she doesn’t seem “small” enough?” Thoughts? (I’m not trying to argue I’d just love some dialogue and thoughts of others)
I believe you've touched on this before, but could you please offer more insight on what could be considered Yin Vs Yang. Fore example, in the Kibbie system romantics have wider and bigger hands and feet compared to theatrical romantics. I'm guessing that the small and narrower hands of TR are considered sharper. However, I tend to see them as being more delicate and dainty in comparison to R and thus closer to Yin IMO. What I'm saying I guess is is yin and Yang a clearcut thing, or is there room for personal interpretations.
Your so talented, Thank you! 😍 Could you possibly compare more like this? Like to different TR that have slightly different traits? I love how detailed you are but wouldn't be mad about adding even more!
Help :( .. I am exactly like kate. Romantic body with yang facial features and I have had trouble with style because I always felt if I try to look good I end up looking like a school teacher. I don't know how to dress cool and still complement my face and body. It feels like the cool styles are reserved for the other body types.
I can’t figure out what I am. I think I’m a mix of romantic and ingenue. I have young facial features but wide hips and shoulders and a smaller waist. I’ve been told that I have look very young and innocent but also very curvy and womanly. It seems paradoxical honestly. Is romantic ingenue a thing?
In face,having romantic and ingenue is impossible, but having a romantic body with an ingenue face or ingenue body with romantic face is possible!! A "cute" romantic is actually a variant of a romantic,just like gamines have soo much variety within the archetype.
i love your videos! subscribed! can you do a video on where the plus size women fit into all of this? I'm a size 14 and the "scale" doesn't really address my body. my facial features are ingenue (dimples, big eyes, heart lips) but my body is super curvy especially in the lower half. I'm also a really light-hearted flirty person but I veer towards minimalist aesthetic stylistically but it's hard to accommodate those styles while being curvy. i would love to hear what you have to say about yin and yang balances for plus-sized folks.
also wondering about curvy tall people. what are some styles that look good on folks who are long and curvy? i notice that vertical lines complement my frame but not my curves and vice versa? i'm assuming the same is true for petite folks with more angular frames
Kate Winslet looks like a soft classic to me. Fully romantic styles are too busy and can be somewhat garish on her. Even with a rounder bust, she is evenly proportioned.
I really think you have a great eye and a developed sense of style essence, but in the case of Kate Winslet, I have to say that what I see is a very soft woman who is repeatedly being given the false appearance of drama. She is seen almost consistently in these sleek sculptural looks, with straight or slicked back hair, and overly lined lips, which give her this illusion of hardness. The effect is as if one took the image of a cloud and drew hard lines around them and deepened the shadows so that the cloud looked as if it were made of stone. When she has the soft romantic curls, watercolour makeup and lush fabric, her rose-like beauty comes through. She certainly has a kind of strength, but not one that is heightened by all that sculptural, inhibiting styling. So in conclusion, I don't see the classic looks that she is often seen in as being very flattering, and if she ever does do the softer look that we saw in her youth which was a nod to her character in Titanic, we will be astounded at how much more youthful and lush she looks, even now.
I'm Glad o found romantic types that are not stuck on the floral girly style. I was Very sad I was a romantic and couldnt find clothes on the classic/basic side.
I get you. Sometimes it feels complicated to customize another style in order to fit your body type. Kate Winslet is a great example of how to wear classic-romantic lines.
Yes, this is exactly how I feel. I couldn't believe I was a romantic because I hate the little details and girlish stuff
Same!! I hated learning that I was romantic. I don’t like ruffles and girly outfits that show off too much of the body. I prefer more discreet clothing yet flattering and neutral tones
I'm 100% romantic body type but live a clean and basic style.. all that girly, playfull recommandations frustrated me so much.... I am sooo happy that I found that video 🥰
Seriously. I cant get into a girly dress to save my life.
This is very helpful & useful information. Not everyone with a Romantic body type or more curvaceous/voluptuous figure wants to dress like a Sex Kitten or in overly frilly, ruffles & bows. There is room for individual expression if you know your line & proportion. Would love more videos exploring this topic 👍
bbh yeah just look at Kate Winslet and Beyoncé younger years. Their curves were a lot slimmer
@bbh for sure- and you know nearly every Marilyn photo is extremely posed- not that she isn't actually curvy but it is a factor as to why she appears so much that way.
I think all romantics can go back and forth between this esthetics.The defining difference from my own experience is a contrasting brow. A darker brow, helps bring this sophisticated "dryness" to a romantic face. Whereas a harmonious brow that doesn't contrast the skin to much ,brings out a lot of softness and ingénue qualities of the facial features. I think this two are very good examples for that.
Edit:Also a matt or luminous complexion can create the same effect.
luiza buna yep whenever I bleach my brows people think I look wayyy friendlier / softer so it’s fun to play with that
Yeeees! I'm a romantic and I want to get my eyebrows microbladed. I've been torn between getting a high contrast blunt brow shape or a low contrast rounded shape because depending on which I have between the two, my aesthetic dramatically changes.
I thought I was being weird for making such a fuss about something potentially insignificant but as a wise modelling agent once said: eyebrows are really important, they frame the face.
samkele myeni Personally l word go with a softer brow because you can always add to them if you want. Also they would look very harmonious when you're not wearing make up.
@@luizabuna yes, that's true. Thank you
samkele myeni The pleasure is all mine. I hope you have a great day. 🤗🤗
I'm realizing most people are some sort of hybrid between a couple of the types, and no two people ever or rarely do fit perfectly in the same category the same way.
This is my personal philosophy 🙌🏻 The archetypes are meant to serve as a springboard and give us some absolute truths to lean on. But it doesn’t mean that we’ll all fit into some box. It’s about finding your unique balance ☯️
Elyssa Yes, I’ve been coming to this conclusion as well. I was really struggling as to whether I was Soft Natural or Romantic, I have broad shoulders, seemingly a lot of B answers, but some could be E, and I have excessive curves, even when I’m thin. My face has also filled out similarly to Kate’s, but I think I have a lot of bluntness overall. Anywho, I appreciate you getting deeper into the comparisons. I also have a lot of classical-esque preferences. So, hmm, I don’t know. Maybe mix all in blender and see what comes out!? 🤷🏻♀️
@@DolceSuono9 Well from what you're saying, you seem to fall exactly into the Soft Natural body type. Some people think that if they have curves, they are romantic and theatrical romantic which isn't true. Soft Dramatic, Fambloyant Natural, Soft Natural, Soft Classic and Soft Gamine can have curves too. Your description reminds me of Scarlett Johannson who's a Soft Natural.
Yes, I believe that is so true.
Jasmeen Well, I think I’ve been hung up on my shoulders and unsure, because I’ve always had equal D/E answers, and question if they’re actually more, ie body dysmorphia. I started off thinking soft classic, then sure I was a curvy soft natural. Yesterday I saw pictures of Drew Barrymore and her shoulders are more like mine, and other things too. I tend to wear a lot of SN just for comfort and modesty, maybe I still will, but I won’t really know without trying different shapes on. 🤷🏻♀️
I've read people saying Kate Winslet is a SC, but this video makes me think that she is indeed a R who dresses like a SC and those lines look really good on her due to her dignified features. I heard about your channel through Audrey Coyne and I'm loving it so far.
Thank you! And welcome💛 I think that there’s a few different ways you can slice it among different systems/approaches, but regardless she is curved with poised/dignified essence✨
Kibbe himself typed Kate Winslet R but some question it saying she doesn't look that yin
This is great. It’s really interesting to move away from Kibbe a bit, and look at the differences that can be evident in a ‘type’.
Yes, I’m definitely moving away from Kibbe and just focusing on the overall yin/yang methodology 🙃
Kate's essence reminds me a lot of Elizabeth Tyler. She looks regal like her. not all romantic body types look like Marilyn
Exactly 😉
I just have to say,
Of the 3 main channels that cover Body Archetypes yours is by far the best. First I love how you went beyond Kibbe to really understand and explain the methodology of body archetypes in that you established a real foundation. The others just don't delve beyond the surface and seem to only defend his typing even when questionable...But you apply the knowledgeable of your research to go even next level and suggest new archetypes, which is so fun! This is my approach too, I narrow down to my base archetype and then mix and match, experiment in places the test suggest something other than my base type.
All that being said, I do wish in this video in particular, if you'd went further and defended the new archetypes by showing images of these two in each others new styles. That would have been very interesting! I feel that most images you used were tilted to make your point. Swapping would've given some balance. Many images come to mind that would work of Beyonce not so many of Kate but I am sure there are some in wilds of Kate that you would consider Glam Romantic. Anyway Great Video Doll!
Thank you and that’s a very valid suggestion. I’ll definitely try to add some more examples of swapped looks to show the given effect and balance my point✨
I like that you point out the subtleties in individuals. Not all romantics are the same nor should wear the same style - same for other types. I agree with your assessment on Winslet's dignified and Beyonce's glam essence.
She’s so articulate I love it
Please do a video on Stevie Nicks! 💕 I believe she's also a Romantic, as well as one of the most influential musicians on the fashion world. Her gypsy/witch aesthetic is 👌💖
Ok this is definitely going on the list!!!
YES please I thunk I look very much like Stevie and I dess very uch as she did when younger ans smaller.
Stevie Nick's is a soft gamine. At only 5'1 a mixed type. She is not a romantic.
I'm a soft natural and I have such a hard time distinguishing between romantic style and SN style clothing because they both call for draping and rounded circles. This video helped me realize that there is a difference because of the rounded waist into hips, and the placement of cinching/draping. I need more yang, and could maybe pull off a few things Kate wears but definitely not Beyoncé!
Geeee!!! Helpful, non-obvious, really wonderful way to look at it!!!
I love your own take on the "dignified romantic" and "glam romantic," thinking about my structure and silhouette like that would really help me boil down choosing outfits for different kinds of looks! btw I think I'm a TR :)
I’ve been studying Kibbe for a while (textbook romantic) and this is one of the best videos on romantics. For me especially, I feel I have a strong classic essence that makes some romantic recos (like prints and ruffles) difficult for me to pull off. It’s been this way since I was a child, as my mom is a more is more person and noticed early on that her choices would overwhelm me. Hearing you talk about why Kate isn’t a classic (her curves are so pronounced that they have to be accommodated before anything else) really struck a cord. Yes, I have that classic essence and need to stay somewhat pared back, but my curves have needed first accommodation since I was in 7th grade! I remember middle school was when I realized how differently I was built to the leggy naturals around me. Kibbe has shown me beauty in my form in a way that simplydressing for “hourglass” recommendations never has.
When you mention how Kate prefers Metallica to sparkles, it was like you were reading my fashion story. I always tell my friends I prefer sheen to shine, glow to sparkles. It just works better! Unless it’s a formal event, I can handle some sequins and stones in those moments.
Love this video!
It's great to see someone bring up age as a factor! :) I think it can really change som features, even though it doesn't change your type entirely. I'm a 34-year-old soft natural and I do think that I had some more softness 10 years ago. My figure is still soft, but face isn't as soft as before, so I can definitely see some slight changes. It doesn't mean I'm not SN today, but the yin undercurrent was more pronounced when I was younger.
Yes! This happens to a lot of women and it’s absolutely relevant to bring up. Obviously since Beyoncé started off with a little more ingenue facial features she’s able to pull through more circular shapes as she’s aged and those sparkling details don’t make her look immature! I think the biggest thing is to pay attention to how looks are interacting.....that’s where we start to gain more discernment🙌🏻
Indeed! I started off a lil' ingenue and each year settle more and more into Theatrical Romantic.
Such an underrated channel! Seriously, your videos are gems 💎
Oh thank you! What a compliment 💛
They really are! Omg such an intelligent way of explaining the Kibbe Body Type System :)
Interestingly enough, I have always naturally gravitated to glamorous, big hair, girly clothes, etc. Without meaning to sound full of myself, I have consistently been praised for my fashion sense. But, I was always wishing I looked like my old boss, who wore simple dresses, pants, button up blouses, etc. She always looked so good in her simple, classy outfits, but when I emulated her look, I felt sooo boring in her style. I chalked it up to being short and overweight, while my boss is taller and thinner. But, she always complimented me on my style. Knowing about the Kibbe types now helps me understand why our styles looked great on us but not on each other.
Brilliant theory on Kibbe types!
I am really curious about your analysis of hairstyles for different body types since our hair forms the foundational and essential part of our styling and appearance. And please keep going with this particular series on body types and personalization of their style recommendations. Your ingenious interpretation of the whole body type series and essences is very informative and helpful.
I resonate so much with Kate 😍 for the longest time I thought I was a soft classic, because my facial features give of more off a classic vibe, but my round curves always threw me off and I felt shorter, softer und sometimes wider compared to soft classics
I realized I’m a romantic but with a more classic face 🥰 I love to get inspiration from her and her style since it suits me perfectly
Your have a very good vocabulary and you use it to advantage. Your descriptions have allowed me to finally capture what Kibbe was saying to women. With your ability to literally paint descriptively using many different adjectives, it's like you have concretized verbally and pictorially what the reader tries to grasp from Kibbe's conceptualizations. Watching your videos has enabled me to clearly see, and even more importantly, understand what is meant with lines, shapes and harmony. WOW!
Glad I could help!
You really knock it out of the park.
I’m a romantic body type like Marilyn or Elizabeth Taylor and I’m pretty happy about that!
This helped me a lot! While my body is cookie cutter romantic double curve, not every line in my face is rounded, especially with 33 years and after divorce and everything that happened in the last few years ;)
It's me, I'm just like Kate!! I was so torn between romantic or soft classic until I watched this and now I know 😃 Thank you!! 😊
Love this type of videos!
Would be amazing if you did them for all body types 💕
Working on it 🤘🏻
This was so eye opening, thank you! I think that my body is romantic but I have never felt like I fit that as I am drawn to more classic styles. So maybe I am more of a dignified romantic 😄, thanks again!
Hi Elyssa! I've recently discovered I'm a Soft Natural and I feel videos here on RUclips briefly mention soft naturals, focusing on pure naturals and flamboyant naturals, so I'd really love if you made an in-depth video on Soft Naturals
Try Merrian Style and Aly Art both great youtubers for kibbe body types!
I'd also love this!
@@maryg.9581 I wouldn't recommend Merriam if the goal is to understand kibbe - I think she misunderstands him in quite a few aspects. Thats why she decided to use her own system. I think merriam and aly are a little to strict when it comes to the "rules" for each body type. Best "Kibbe-RUclipsrs" in my opinion are elyssa and rita.
@@funkuchen2 I get that, but all of them have useful info on their channels & it doesn't hurt to see other people's point of view!
If you want to understand the basics of kibbe system Aly art is the answer.
The soul of kibbe system as a visceral experience is found in thealignedlover RUclips channel.
The experience is on Rita's channel.
How to make it your own with style and aesthetic ideas is found here with Elyssa.
If you are confused with the test or can't find your type , Merriam can help with different suggestions or different take on .
Great video. Please do one specifically for TR
I'm 100% romantic body type but live a clean and basic style.. all that girly, playfull recommandations frustrated me so much.... I am sooo happy that I found that video 🥰
I love this! I spent 2 years now and ended up with accepting that I am an SD and it fits way better then everythingelse, but to be honest, yes I do have some vertical line but I am smaler then both of these romantics and all though I might taler then I am in pics but IRL you will see that I am moderate... so I decided to dich it all again and follow my gutfeeling. Calling myself talsih, smalisch, Drama-Lama, with a romantic toddler stuck inside me a d dress acording to that 🥰
Yes I am a dignified Romantic too...it fits my personality too...I show my shape but not in a super low cut sequin kind of way....
Please do more in depth videos for romantic type with more outfit examples and romantic type analysis.
I'm a soft classic I'm pretty sure and for awhile I was so confused because I didn't have classic facial features or flesh now it makes more sense 😅
Please can you do a video on Halloween costumes for the body types, if you release it around the start of October I bet it would do really well x
I love that your voice is relaxing. Keep speaking like that, no need to hurry or shout♥
I'm definitely a Kate Winslet.
Really love describing the essence and how to define your own!
Elyssa! I’ve been watching videos on this subject for about 3 years now and this video is one of the best I’ve seen. You have a good eye! And you are really good at explaining nuances within a type. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼beautiful!
Thank you!! I really really appreciate this comment 💛
It's be great if you did a video on Soft Dramatics! I'd love to see how an SD could wear Gamine and Ingenue-type clothing, since I'm an SD who loves those styles.
Love your videos! I share and rewatch some of them, like the last one, Classic Minimalist Chic. Such beautiful explanations, precise and rich in meaning! Wish you could do a video on Soft Naturals, revealing a wider range or two different approaches based on inherent differences within SN.
Absolutely! And thank you so so much for your support! I’m glad you’re getting something out of these videos 💛 I’m a bit of a perfectionist and really try to shoot for quality content. So receiving comments like this is very appreciated!
Can you please do one of these for flamboyant naturals? I feel so turned off by only ever seem the same styles and repetitive cliches, it's like I'm only ever told that my bone structure is manish, asymetrical and that I can only wear rugs and in case I want to be close to feminine it has to be a hippie boho style
Check out my FN Pinterest board 😉
Hi Scart! I'd highly suggest checking out this video......I know the title is "Boho" but I showcase styles that are NOT Boho for FN. Also, don't forget about your essence. If wearing more yin prints like florals and soft watercolors truly represent your essence (which I think it does if you're strongly drawn to those things), then by all means do it! Harmony transcends our physical features. You can also check out my pinterest boars.....I try to keep them pretty well rounded. ruclips.net/video/pl91gt2y82k/видео.html
Thank you for this video! I've been struggling to make sense of where I would fit, and overall to figure out any "role models" for, not style, but lines, as I'm very curve dominant, short, but have a mostly yang face. The segment of your description of Kate Winslet finally made sense to me and I found something that sounded like me. Other people who have made videos where Kate is featured, always focus only on the curvy side and round big eyes, and forget all her angularity. Thank you, thank you, thank you!
Nuances....it’s all about the nuances 😉💛
This is so great! Fully support your doing this for all the body types :) (Theatrical Romantic pleeeeeease - I want, I neeeeed!)
Very informative content. Ive never heard of style in this way. I realize that im a hybrid of both these aesthetics
Very helpful video, thank you! I'm a Romantic with a bit of blunt yang in my face, and was trying to figure out if I was actually a SN. After researching, I realized that I still look best in R lines, but I should accommodate for the somewhat SN appearance of my face. I don't have a name for my style essence yet (like glam or dignified) so that's what I'm working toward. Wait maybe I can be a "Down-to-Earth" Romantic
I can always find suggestions for romantic with regard to summer clothes but could you offer some guidance on winter/autumn wear?
This is really interesting and helpful! I feel like I'm stuck between romantic and gamine, so it's interesting to see that Kate Winslet is romantic dominant with classic as a secondary.
Great video, Elyssa! I think this is by far the most useful one out of your whole content, as I find myself in a similar position to Kate's (even if with a different body type) and I have always struggled to match my face to my body and incorporate all of the different lines that still coexist in me. This really opened my eyes! looking forward to more videos like this. Keep up the good work, you're amazing!
Glad this helped!
I personally am a narrow "romantic", but can not be classified as no theatrical romantic, because of my ingenue essence.
I believe I have a more "yin" face and hair but I prefer more "yang" clothes as they suit my shoulder line and small butt better, in spite of my large breasts and round arms. Thank you for bringing those those examples because I was fed up with romantics in floral dresses all the time.
You helped me accept being Romantic a little better.
Thanks.
I’ve fulfilled my duty for the day🙌🏻 Accepting your beauty is so freeing!
Love this series you should do outfits for body types for the seasons!
Would you do this for theatrical romantics?! 😍👏
I'm a romantic and I live the way Kate Winslet dresses. I need to study get more carefully. I'm a trial attorney and need to dress professionally most days, although I love glam and romantic frilliness too.
It's also possible that Beyonce and Kate Winslet are Soft Dramatic, taller, larger bones, less vulnerable and deecate essence but with pronounced Romantic accent
Thanks a lot of this video! I do hope there will be a romantic with soft yang as well but this video is very comforting. all the TR recommendations felt weird because i like quirky, androgynous and/or bright clothes or uber feminine clothing but with some kind of interest so dressing like marilyn monroe was really not me. i've had a good idea of what looked good on me but this just shows how our lines are just lines. we can incorporate them however we want. i've been able to start picking out lines in clothes i've had for a while that didn't fit me the best and i won't have to second guess about my style anymore. so anything i add will still be me and fit me best as well.
Essence and nuances of our yin/yang play just as an important role as our prominent lines😉
@@elyssa_aesthetic hey, just wanted to say your pinterest username is elyssaaesthetic but your link in the description is for elyssacurlygirl
Nice video, please do one for theatrical romantic
Wooooow this is so cool 🤩 I test as theatrical romantic (and I’ve asked for extra opinions) but I feel like my nose and eyes offer a Natural soft Yang vibe that I need to take into consideration when dressing. They’re rounded but have a definite Yang to them. I would love to get your opinion one day!
This is sooo helpful Elyssa!! Can you please compare 2 or 3 different FGs? I'm an FG and therefore am super interested and I feel like there's a lot of variety of 'looks' or subtypes within FG!
do you watch authentic by frani? she's FG and has many videos documenting her style progression.
Absolutely!!! I’m moving away from the “Kibbe types” and am focusing more on the 6 main archetypes and illuminating how we can identify our personal yin yang nuances BUT G’s that have nuances of yang are on the list 😉 These individuals vary and so does their style and I honestly can’t wait to address this 🤗
@@bbappzz98 yes! I love her videos too!! 🥰
@@elyssa_aesthetic excited to see that!!!
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I was typed as a soft classic yet I think I could be a romantic. I seem to be an even mix of the 2. So I sort of combine. Seems to be working for me, though I do keep my hair smooth and neatly long but wear some romantic jewelry or accessories.
I love this vlog..I cannot believe how much I'm learning..I'm starting to identify my body type a lot better...Work in progress!! Thank you!
Really interesting approach! I never stopped to think about it! I new that personality would influence the style approach, but I never never really considered working with the different characteristics from the main type in our favour... Great work!
I’m just struggling finding examples that arent older women I’m 21 I’m not dressing like a 40 year old woman 😭
It doesn't matter...
is it possible to do a dedicated video on romantic styling? I am a romantic and find it difficult to style the things "I LIKE" in a way that looks flattering. Because my wides measurements are at my chest and hips (and I like baggy clothes), I always look heavy. I wonder what you'd say about how to balance that!
Just what I needed! Thank you!
Great video! But Yang is pronounced like “bang” you’re pronouncing it how “Yong” is spelled. Sorry had to point it out as an Asian who’s last name has Yang in it and people constantly mispronounce it
Can you please do a video on such differences within soft gamine type🙏
I am so happy you are taking this approach (flesh and facial features affecting frame) to styling recommendations! Question: To me it seems that all of the other systems that have built on Ms. Northrup’s Yin/Yang philosophy as spectrums describe style suggestions for either either added softness or sharpness to body types. To me, the blunt yang of naturals is different from the sharp yang of dramatics, and so adding extra blunt yang to an archetype frame should have different styling recommendations than adding sharp yang. For instance, what would you recommend for a classic with added blunt yang (a classic with extra “natural features and flesh”) as opposed to one with added sharp yang? (Dramatic classic)? Also, do you think styling suggestions would be different for a classic with extra natural yang than they would be for a natural with extra classic features?
Thanx. I love you videos. They are very informative and I love how you talk about the body types and uplift them. Can you do one on naturals, in particular soft naturals.
I agree to the personal style thing. And Kate is definitely a dignified romantic. Such an accurate term! But for Beyonce, I sometime feel that she is on TR side rather than R. She has delicacy and willowy features rather than broad. I don't know it's just me.
I’m a romantic and it’s winter over here in New Zealand and I find dressing in winter so hard as a romantic! Someone help!
Great video, thank you! I would love to see a video focusing on Theatrical Romantics and what works best for them.
Yeah! More of this please! Love it 🥰
ahhhh this helps soo much... I am a romantic however my facial features are more powerful... like thicker eyebrows and lashes ( my parents are from the middle east) so when I looked at recommendations for romantics... it always seemed a bit un sophisticated on me. Kate Winslet's type is exactly me. Which makeup looks would you recommend then? Because my body is a romantic yet the face is different, so when i do that romantic makeup it looks too " light" on my face
I don't understand why Kate Winslet is an example for a romantic body image. She is quite tall, her facial features are not very rounded, her bones are not petite. I think she is soft natural. I would be very interested what you think about it.
None of it makes sense :)
I also don't believe Kate is a Romantic, not rounded enough top half (bust), wears soft classic styles beautifully well.
I'm also taking issue with 'dignified romantic' ??... So there's an 'undignified romantic'?
In fact, I don't think Beyonce is a 'glam romantic', at 5'7''' probably a soft dramatic'? Or a theatrical romantic maybe? 🤔
I am so happy to hear this...I suspected I was a Romantic but the clothes that were so girly and flowey didn’t feel like me.....but every outfit you showed Kate wearing is definitely ME.....I’m a dignified romantic particularly as I get older!
I identify as a romantic body type and watching your video made me realize that in summer I tend to dress more like Beyonce and in winter like Kate how interesting
Super interesting! But I totally understand why!
@@elyssa_aesthetic why do you think that is, I would love to get your opinion as I tend to jump between the two and at times it can be frustrating planning my wardrobe
Season and mood! If both these aesthetics work well on you then viva la variety! What type of climate do you love in? Also, my summer wardrobe is quite different from my fall/winter wardrobe. But I’m still able to have some pieces that bridge the gap. Maybe take an inventory of your wardrobe and literally try on all your pieces and take photos and see where you can bridge the gap if that’s something you’re looking to accomplish. Just a suggestion.
@@elyssa_aesthetic I live in Spain so summers are quite hot but winters also get chilly and humid. Thanks for the tip I will try it out 🌸
love you opening song
6:48 that outfit 😍😍😍 so casual yet chic
Great job! You go girl 🙌🏻
Love this video, but I had a question: why is Beyonce a romantic and not a soft dramatic? To me, she looks quite tall and she has quite a striking, powerful sort of presence, and I don't really see delicateness from her frame. Maybe I'm missing something here, because she seems to be quite a common example of a romantic
*Can you please do mixed body types after finishing the main archetypes such as a Ethereal Ingenue Theatrical Romantic blend vs just pure Romantic!*
Can u pleaseeeeee do videos like these for all the body types and make it a series please!!!!!
Thank you for this! Do you have any advice on tattoos for Romantic types?
Loved this! You nailed it!
I feel like Kate Winslet looks tall? Like, I look at her and see vertical. I know she has been described as a romantic by a lot and it’s pretty agreed on that she is, but I always go back to “she doesn’t seem “small” enough?” Thoughts? (I’m not trying to argue I’d just love some dialogue and thoughts of others)
Can you talk about gamines pls!
I believe you've touched on this before, but could you please offer more insight on what could be considered Yin Vs Yang.
Fore example, in the Kibbie system romantics have wider and bigger hands and feet compared to theatrical romantics. I'm guessing that the small and narrower hands of TR are considered sharper. However, I tend to see them as being more delicate and dainty in comparison to R and thus closer to Yin IMO.
What I'm saying I guess is is yin and Yang a clearcut thing, or is there room for personal interpretations.
Your so talented, Thank you! 😍 Could you possibly compare more like this? Like to different TR that have slightly different traits? I love how detailed you are but wouldn't be mad about adding even more!
Help :( .. I am exactly like kate. Romantic body with yang facial features and I have had trouble with style because I always felt if I try to look good I end up looking like a school teacher. I don't know how to dress cool and still complement my face and body. It feels like the cool styles are reserved for the other body types.
so you didnt do introduction to all of the types, yet? right? i can't find them
I can’t figure out what I am. I think I’m a mix of romantic and ingenue. I have young facial features but wide hips and shoulders and a smaller waist. I’ve been told that I have look very young and innocent but also very curvy and womanly. It seems paradoxical honestly. Is romantic ingenue a thing?
In face,having romantic and ingenue is impossible, but having a romantic body with an ingenue face or ingenue body with romantic face is possible!! A "cute" romantic is actually a variant of a romantic,just like gamines have soo much variety within the archetype.
i love your videos! subscribed! can you do a video on where the plus size women fit into all of this? I'm a size 14 and the "scale" doesn't really address my body. my facial features are ingenue (dimples, big eyes, heart lips) but my body is super curvy especially in the lower half. I'm also a really light-hearted flirty person but I veer towards minimalist aesthetic stylistically but it's hard to accommodate those styles while being curvy. i would love to hear what you have to say about yin and yang balances for plus-sized folks.
also wondering about curvy tall people. what are some styles that look good on folks who are long and curvy? i notice that vertical lines complement my frame but not my curves and vice versa? i'm assuming the same is true for petite folks with more angular frames
I hear you loud and clear and will add this to my list of video topics 💛
Elyssa you are so appreciated. notifications are on 🌻🦋
Kate Winslet looks like a soft classic to me. Fully romantic styles are too busy and can be somewhat garish on her. Even with a rounder bust, she is evenly proportioned.
I really think you have a great eye and a developed sense of style essence, but in the case of Kate Winslet, I have to say that what I see is a very soft woman who is repeatedly being given the false appearance of drama. She is seen almost consistently in these sleek sculptural looks, with straight or slicked back hair, and overly lined lips, which give her this illusion of hardness. The effect is as if one took the image of a cloud and drew hard lines around them and deepened the shadows so that the cloud looked as if it were made of stone. When she has the soft romantic curls, watercolour makeup and lush fabric, her rose-like beauty comes through. She certainly has a kind of strength, but not one that is heightened by all that sculptural, inhibiting styling. So in conclusion, I don't see the classic looks that she is often seen in as being very flattering, and if she ever does do the softer look that we saw in her youth which was a nod to her character in Titanic, we will be astounded at how much more youthful and lush she looks, even now.
Will you be doing the other body types too? I love your videos and would love to hear your take on the other types😊
Yes! I will absolutely being addressing nuances with oh reach of the base archetypes 💛