I’ve got 45,500 miles on my high mileage 2010 JK used Ripp Supercharger install. I installed it at 325,600 miles. I had the heads machined and the valves ground about the same time. The bottom end is untouched beyond oil pan & girdle reseal and new timing set. She is down about a quart at 6000-6500 miles oil changes. Driving is a pleasure now. JK is unlifted on 33’s with the 42RLE trans. Odometer currently reads 371,100+.
JKs have proven to take boost pretty well. The updated 3.6 in the JL hasn't agreed so well with boost, so longevity of this system is certainly a good question.
My diesel gladiator has a similar 0-60 with the GDE tune, and I only paid $1400 for it with an extra PCM. Still getting high 20’s mpg on the highway too.
We did some head work on this one a while back, so it’s got fresh components! Shoot us an email at service@petersonperformance.com and let’s see if you even can blow it up - we doubt you can 😉
$7-8k. You can build your configuration on ProCharger’s website, then reach out to us for a final price. We can ship it directly to you since we are distributors!
I used to buy performance parts from Peterson's Performance back around 1982-84. I live 1k miles away these days. I did like living in Wheatridge back then. I would love to install a supercharger on my '23 JLU. But unfortunately it has eTorque. The durability of these engines should be good. I noticed on my '20 Dodge Durango 3.6L, the oil pressure is about 30psi during normal operation. But does peak at 80psi in cruise controlwhen the system want to hold speed downhill. So many of the v8 MDS systems will have as little as 5psi.
Hard to read in my phone but does that say it added 130hp and 80pft? So the 3.6 stock makes 285/260. So your saying that it now make 415hp and 340fpt? How much for the kit and the install?
I have a 18 jl. Rubicon. 2 door hardtop. I did 35s. With a lift kit. I did a k&n cold air intake. With AFE high tuck. Axle back exhaust. With just those few items. I was surprised in the difference. If i do anything next. It's getting a hemi! There's guy here in stl. That has this same color, Jeep. Rubicon as well. 4 door. He stuffed a hellcat crate motor in it. He has a custom lighting shop called. Retro shoppe.
How does it handle off road crawling? I imagine the super charger doesn’t kick in and you can still feather the gas without it trying to hop at the lower off road RPMs. I would be worried though about it kicking in at the wrong time on a difficult obstacle.
That’s a fair concern. The boost to the motor isn’t only tied to RPM, but also a function of the blow-off valve, which allows unneeded pressurized air to escape. At part throttle, there’s very little boost (because the BOV is partially open). This means that a ProCharged vehicle drives very similar to being NA…. Until you mash the throttle and request max power from the engine!
I have a supercharged 3.6 in my JT with about 21k on it. It helps a lot; power while towing and going up hills is smoother and just better than the stock anemic 3.6, but feels more like what it should have been from Jeep...adequate. I'm still thinking hemi swap!
That’s interesting (high elevation usually leads to rich condition). Glad they got it worked out! Is it a Magnuson blower (we are also dealers for them and have had good results!)? Any idea the power level?
@petersonperformanceCO we're running the Edelbrock. After checking out the different brands, it seemed like the Maggie tuning wasn't worked out and people were blowing engines. Not sure on the output, but not as much as the procharger; they kept it conservative. They say 317 HP/278 ft. Lbs with a flatter curve.
You still have to tweak acceleration enrichment (and other things) for a speed-density vehicle when you change the airflow characteristics. It was definitely drivable, but outside of whatever threshold was set, and we weren’t going to give it back with a check engine light. No reason to change the throttle body on this setup. If you want (..and I’m being very generous here..) 10 more horsepower, change the pulley instead.
If procharger couldnt re-write/adjust the tune to accommodate a little bit bigger of a throttle body, that should tell you maybe go with someone elses product
Unfortunately not. RIPP has a kit for the 3.8 though, around $5500. We have a RIPP supercharged Jeep (3.6L though) in the shop right now for some tuning, seems like a decent setup!
It just doesn’t take as much to get to the safe power level. At our elevation, we were seeing around 4-5psi. If the compression ratio were lower, then we might have needed 6-7psi to achieve the same power level. The problem comes when you put “low CR” levels of boost on a “high CR” engine. As long as you use appropriate levels of boost, you’re gtg 👌🏼
Certainly. The customer already had a second, unlocked PCM, but didn’t want a custom tune at this time. He wanted to stick with ProCharger’s tune for now.
It’s a factory PCM that we mailed to Diablo for unlocking. This is how ProCharger does it. We have also unlocked and tuned them with HP Tuners (for a custom tune).
@@petersonperformanceCO ok, then probably a GPEC2a. Apparently HP Tuners can't unlock the new GPEC5s on the 2022+ JL's and JT's and I'm patiently waiting for somebody to sort that so I can put a supercharger on my 2023 JT
@@Braindamg44yeah, i bought my 21 JT about a month too late and I have the GPEC5 as well.. I don't get why it seems to be the only ECU that can't be tuned..
I have a 2016 3.6… I would love to have more power… It had/has always made me nervous that a Engine that has 12/13 to One Compression stock, then Boosting it, and how that would effect the longevity of that Engine… If you (because it’s Fun) are always now putting your Foot to the Floor? 👍😂🤔
Um i truely better option would have been to call a real tuner that know exactly how to incorporate more are flow. Don't cut off the nuts to make it comply
We discussed it with the customer, but he wanted to stick with ProCharger’s tune for now! We are doing a custom tune on a Ripp supercharged JLRU right now. It comes down to the customer’s preference, and we are happy to do it either way.
@hpsvirk true. Quick Google shows 392 Wranglers at $100k+ new. This ProCharger kit is only $7700. Add that to a new 3.6L JLRU and you’re still saving a bunch of money (and keeping a 3yr 36k mi powertrain warranty).
@stevensjoseph1667 just had one of our JLRU customers come by yesterday talking about swapping out his 2.0T for the new twin turbo I-6 high output. That would be awesome!
These supercharged JL's and JT's always end badly. Blown motor or at least the customer wnds up saying they wish they would have gone 392. Save up a little longer and go 392 or hellcat.
The pentastar is just a terrible engine...rockers go, terrible ticks and so on...if Jeep would stop being stingy...all we ever qanted was a basic 5.7 hemi...not a 392 with 6 figure price tag. But, this was cool lol
Agreed! They put the 5.7 in other Jeep models, and there’s clearly room in the engine bay if the 392 can fit….. so……? Haha, it’s too bad. Thanks for checking out the video!
My question, if someone needs faster make Jeep wrangler faster, why they don't look somewhere else instead of spending that money and more issues in the future. Jeep wrangler was made not to be fast. From design, body shape and aerodynamic and engine technology. Remind me when Harley. People get Harley and spend more than double the price and they can easy buy Yamaha or other brands which is way faster and cheaper. BTW, I have Wrangler and I love it. Yes I did some modification but none related to the performance. I'm curious why someone who wants a faster vehicle would choose to modify a Jeep Wrangler, considering its inherent limitations. Wouldn't it make more sense to invest in a different vehicle that's designed for speed? The Wrangler's design, including its boxy shape and aerodynamics, isn't conducive to high speeds. Modifying it for performance can be expensive and may lead to reliability issues down the road. It reminds me of Harley-Davidson motorcycles. People often spend a premium for a Harley when they could get a Yamaha or another brand that offers better performance for less money. Personally, I own a Wrangler and love it for what it is. I've made some modifications, but they're all focused on enhancing its off-road capabilities, not its speed
3 years and 36k miles to find any issues. We do used oil analysis along the way too. These kits have been doing well for thousands of people, for many years. We’re not worried!
I’ve got 45,500 miles on my high mileage 2010 JK used Ripp Supercharger install. I installed it at 325,600 miles. I had the heads machined and the valves ground about the same time. The bottom end is untouched beyond oil pan & girdle reseal and new timing set. She is down about a quart at 6000-6500 miles oil changes. Driving is a pleasure now. JK is unlifted on 33’s with the 42RLE trans. Odometer currently reads 371,100+.
That’s awesome!
JKs have proven to take boost pretty well. The updated 3.6 in the JL hasn't agreed so well with boost, so longevity of this system is certainly a good question.
Would love to see 2-3 year review from a customer after doing 30-40k miles.
That’s a good idea!
Boom goes the block!
@mylesharvey6488 nah
@@mylesharvey6488 It's just like anything, if you abuse it and don't follow the recommended maintenance even a stock motor will get worn out.
The extra pressure will absolutely cause leaking in all the hard to reach and costly to reach places.
My diesel gladiator has a similar 0-60 with the GDE tune, and I only paid $1400 for it with an extra PCM. Still getting high 20’s mpg on the highway too.
Without concern of the stock lower end or cam timing I think this a great idea. Where do I sign up to blow the shit out of my 3.6L?
We did some head work on this one a while back, so it’s got fresh components! Shoot us an email at service@petersonperformance.com and let’s see if you even can blow it up - we doubt you can 😉
Great video!
Thanks!
Good afternoon I am from Puerto Rico whats the Precis on that Kit for the Jeep
$7-8k. You can build your configuration on ProCharger’s website, then reach out to us for a final price. We can ship it directly to you since we are distributors!
I used to buy performance parts from Peterson's Performance back around 1982-84. I live 1k miles away these days. I did like living in Wheatridge back then.
I would love to install a supercharger on my '23 JLU. But unfortunately it has eTorque. The durability of these engines should be good. I noticed on my '20 Dodge Durango 3.6L, the oil pressure is about 30psi during normal operation. But does peak at 80psi in cruise controlwhen the system want to hold speed downhill. So many of the v8 MDS systems will have as little as 5psi.
My 01 TJ 4.0 is fun but dam it would be nice with a supercharger 😁
Ehhhh I had a buddy with one. I would take the reliability of it vs. not such a big difference in power
Hard to read in my phone but does that say it added 130hp and 80pft? So the 3.6 stock makes 285/260. So your saying that it now make 415hp and 340fpt?
How much for the kit and the install?
Correct! $10k out the door: parts, materials, labor, tax, fees.
I have a 18 jl. Rubicon. 2 door hardtop. I did 35s. With a lift kit. I did a k&n cold air intake. With AFE high tuck. Axle back exhaust. With just those few items. I was surprised in the difference. If i do anything next. It's getting a hemi! There's guy here in stl. That has this same color, Jeep. Rubicon as well. 4 door. He stuffed a hellcat crate motor in it. He has a custom lighting shop called. Retro shoppe.
How does it handle off road crawling? I imagine the super charger doesn’t kick in and you can still feather the gas without it trying to hop at the lower off road RPMs. I would be worried though about it kicking in at the wrong time on a difficult obstacle.
That’s a fair concern. The boost to the motor isn’t only tied to RPM, but also a function of the blow-off valve, which allows unneeded pressurized air to escape. At part throttle, there’s very little boost (because the BOV is partially open). This means that a ProCharged vehicle drives very similar to being NA…. Until you mash the throttle and request max power from the engine!
I have a supercharged 3.6 in my JT with about 21k on it. It helps a lot; power while towing and going up hills is smoother and just better than the stock anemic 3.6, but feels more like what it should have been from Jeep...adequate. I'm still thinking hemi swap!
We agree that it feels how it *should* have always been from the factory! Any issues in the 21k miles?
No issues except for an oddly lean 91 tune at high elevation that had to be fixed. Running the whipple style versus the centrifugal, tho.
That’s interesting (high elevation usually leads to rich condition). Glad they got it worked out! Is it a Magnuson blower (we are also dealers for them and have had good results!)? Any idea the power level?
@petersonperformanceCO we're running the Edelbrock. After checking out the different brands, it seemed like the Maggie tuning wasn't worked out and people were blowing engines. Not sure on the output, but not as much as the procharger; they kept it conservative. They say 317 HP/278 ft. Lbs with a flatter curve.
How much did it cost you both parts and labor? Thx
Being a speed density automobile, wouldn’t the computer adjust for the airflow in time? My old Procharged V6 mustang did.
You still have to tweak acceleration enrichment (and other things) for a speed-density vehicle when you change the airflow characteristics.
It was definitely drivable, but outside of whatever threshold was set, and we weren’t going to give it back with a check engine light.
No reason to change the throttle body on this setup. If you want (..and I’m being very generous here..) 10 more horsepower, change the pulley instead.
From all the videos I watched on adding turbos to the pentastar you will making another video about it blowing up the engine in a little bit.
We’ll see 😉
If procharger couldnt re-write/adjust the tune to accommodate a little bit bigger of a throttle body, that should tell you maybe go with someone elses product
“Can’t” and “won’t” are two different things. I could tell you why they don’t, but I can’t understand it for you.
Is there one for the 2.3l cherokee?
We aren’t seeing any companies making superchargers for that engine. Sorry about that!
easier solution, regear. those tires are way to big for factory gearing and the 6 speed trans.
Anybody’s take on supercharging a stock 2.5 YJ with a procharger?
Does it work on 3.8l jk
Unfortunately not. RIPP has a kit for the 3.8 though, around $5500. We have a RIPP supercharged Jeep (3.6L though) in the shop right now for some tuning, seems like a decent setup!
How about 392 should come with Magnuson s/c.
That would be a beast!
I thought high compression engines didn't like boost.
It just doesn’t take as much to get to the safe power level. At our elevation, we were seeing around 4-5psi. If the compression ratio were lower, then we might have needed 6-7psi to achieve the same power level.
The problem comes when you put “low CR” levels of boost on a “high CR” engine. As long as you use appropriate levels of boost, you’re gtg 👌🏼
Could you not have taken it to get dyno tuned with that throttle body?
Would have voided any whipple warranty
Certainly. The customer already had a second, unlocked PCM, but didn’t want a custom tune at this time. He wanted to stick with ProCharger’s tune for now.
Which ECU?
It’s a factory PCM that we mailed to Diablo for unlocking. This is how ProCharger does it. We have also unlocked and tuned them with HP Tuners (for a custom tune).
@@petersonperformanceCO ok, then probably a GPEC2a. Apparently HP Tuners can't unlock the new GPEC5s on the 2022+ JL's and JT's and I'm patiently waiting for somebody to sort that so I can put a supercharger on my 2023 JT
Yes, correct. Not GPEC5 yet unfortunately.
@@Braindamg44yeah, i bought my 21 JT about a month too late and I have the GPEC5 as well.. I don't get why it seems to be the only ECU that can't be tuned..
I have a 2016 3.6… I would love to have more power… It had/has always made me nervous that a Engine that has 12/13 to One Compression stock, then Boosting it, and how that would effect the longevity of that Engine… If you (because it’s Fun) are always now putting your Foot to the Floor? 👍😂🤔
This video is why every wrangler needs a 392 lol
We agree. No replacement for displacement!
My JL threw the P219A trouble code and needed a new camshaft and rocker arms because the needle bearings crapped out. I had two worn down lobes.
I'm pretty sure u could just use hptuners to correct that issue
100% right. We presented that option, but this customer wanted to stick with ProCharger’s tune for now.
@petersonperformanceCO they would gain much more with a custom tune and it still pass state inspection
Definitely. We are tuning another supercharged JLRU right now with HP Tuners. It’s up to the customer, and we don’t mind either way 👍🏼
@petersonperformanceCO sweet great job guys. Can't wait to see if it makes it in a video
Um i truely better option would have been to call a real tuner that know exactly how to incorporate more are flow. Don't cut off the nuts to make it comply
We discussed it with the customer, but he wanted to stick with ProCharger’s tune for now! We are doing a custom tune on a Ripp supercharged JLRU right now. It comes down to the customer’s preference, and we are happy to do it either way.
Like if a mini van motor isn’t under enough stress already.
You’d have 3yr/36k miles to prove you know more than ProCharger 😉
Has a supercharger... Kills performance w/ a giant mesh grill that doesn't allow more air flow to cool the engine.
3.6 V6? Why do that when you can just get the 6.4 hemi V8!!
At least in the beginning, those were hard to come by!
At msrp? It's impossible.
It’s not for everybody, much rather see an I-6 for everyday use
@hpsvirk true. Quick Google shows 392 Wranglers at $100k+ new. This ProCharger kit is only $7700. Add that to a new 3.6L JLRU and you’re still saving a bunch of money (and keeping a 3yr 36k mi powertrain warranty).
@stevensjoseph1667 just had one of our JLRU customers come by yesterday talking about swapping out his 2.0T for the new twin turbo I-6 high output. That would be awesome!
These supercharged JL's and JT's always end badly. Blown motor or at least the customer wnds up saying they wish they would have gone 392. Save up a little longer and go 392 or hellcat.
The pentastar is just a terrible engine...rockers go, terrible ticks and so on...if Jeep would stop being stingy...all we ever qanted was a basic 5.7 hemi...not a 392 with 6 figure price tag. But, this was cool lol
Agreed! They put the 5.7 in other Jeep models, and there’s clearly room in the engine bay if the 392 can fit….. so……? Haha, it’s too bad. Thanks for checking out the video!
My question, if someone needs faster make Jeep wrangler faster, why they don't look somewhere else instead of spending that money and more issues in the future. Jeep wrangler was made not to be fast. From design, body shape and aerodynamic and engine technology. Remind me when Harley. People get Harley and spend more than double the price and they can easy buy Yamaha or other brands which is way faster and cheaper. BTW, I have Wrangler and I love it. Yes I did some modification but none related to the performance.
I'm curious why someone who wants a faster vehicle would choose to modify a Jeep Wrangler, considering its inherent limitations. Wouldn't it make more sense to invest in a different vehicle that's designed for speed?
The Wrangler's design, including its boxy shape and aerodynamics, isn't conducive to high speeds. Modifying it for performance can be expensive and may lead to reliability issues down the road.
It reminds me of Harley-Davidson motorcycles. People often spend a premium for a Harley when they could get a Yamaha or another brand that offers better performance for less money.
Personally, I own a Wrangler and love it for what it is. I've made some modifications, but they're all focused on enhancing its off-road capabilities, not its speed
We didn’t supercharge it to make it “fast” 😂 (it is not fast)
Get an eco diesel
Sure, If you want to be even slower
@@petersonperformanceCO faster than the v6. Plus if your going to spend that much to max the motor and get v8 gas mileage might as well get a v8🤷🏾♂️
This is at least $20k cheaper than a 392 Wrangler, and lighter and faster than your diesel 🤷🏻♂️
@@petersonperformanceCO but the other 2 aren’t pushed to the absolute max and aren’t time bombs
3 years and 36k miles to find any issues. We do used oil analysis along the way too. These kits have been doing well for thousands of people, for many years. We’re not worried!
No. Just no.
😂 ok
Nope
That’s fine. It’s not meant for everyone!
@petersonperformanceCO it's not meant for that 3.6!
ok 😂
20-30lbs for a 2nd battery?? this guy needs a helmet at snack time.
Well it looks more like 30-40lb is typical. Have a look 🤡 😂 www.interstatebatteries.com/car-and-truck-batteries/mt