TUF Gaming Z790-PLUS WIFI , Disappointing!
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- Опубликовано: 11 июл 2024
- The TUF GAMING Z790-PLUS promises so much, but hardly delivers on all its promises.
Don’t get me wrong, we have the hallmark of a very resilient, and long-lasting product, but when it comes to a spec-to-spec comparison, the completion has no issues outperforming it.
Enjoy!
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CHAPTERS
0:00 Intro
02:21 The PCB
02:39 Design
03:00 RGB
03:34 CPU socket
04:29 VRM
06:46 RAM
08:02 M.2 SSD
10:26 PCIe Expansion
11:37 Z790 CHIPSET
12:04 Back IO
13:45 Front Panel Connectors
14:07 Cooling
14:27 Troubleshooting
14:57 Conclusion 
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What I hate about tech RUclipsrs is they can never agree on anything. So you're still left wondering what the hell to buy. Some of them are always positive, while others are always negative.
Indeed, total bullshit. was planning to upgrade my tuf z390 but its very hard to have an clear idea, the comment section and answers can look totally different aswell from one video to another. Wonder if somes do it on purpose or are paid by the brands.
If you see 10 positive and one negative. Be wary of the negative but always research the positives.
The PCIe bifurcation has nothing to do with the m2 slots build in on the mainbord. It is relevant for an additionally sold Hyper m.2 pcie 16x card which can hold up to 4 additional SSDs. You don’t sacrifice your PCIe 16x gen 5 slot when using more than 1 internal m2 ssd as you state, only when you add the Hyper m.2 pcie 16x card. Furthermore this is a chipset limitation and not specific to this board, I am really confused about this “review”.
Exactly
Thanks for conforming this, I just commented the same but was wondering if I'm wrong.
As I get ready to add a second PC to the household I am finding your reviews so valuable. Great reviews and so informative.
Hey Grey! Thanks a bunch
There are always a few of yo on every channel. No matter what the RUclipsr says, you're in.
Best review I have seen. I really appreciate the breakdown of the board and which slots to use as well as the components review. I buy them just for the upgraded components with a focus on stability. As I don’t overclock as much. I still think it is a solid board for a productivity build with some weekend gaming ability.
I love your motherboard reviews!!!
Greetings from Chile !!!!
Thanks for the review; this is my first time watching your channel and this video; after seeing the part of the SSD, I still doubt which one is the third m.2. Is the naked one or the one designed as boot?
I only have one m. 2nvme and I used the top m2 slot (just below the processor and ram). Will that take bandwidth? Also if I want to add another m. 2 nvme which slot i should use next? Plz let me know the recommended slots
To be fair, this board has been selling for cheaper than mentioned during the review for the past week @$205 on Amazon. The other board at the same price point i was considering was the MSI PRO Z790-A or P version for $210 which didnt have a thunderbolt 4 expandability which was the determining factor that swayed me to the Asus. As far as gigabyte as a potential alternative, i believe hardware unboxed revealed their VRM cooling solution was much worse than Asus or MSI, at least in their z690 lineup, don't know if they fixed it for their z790s. Asrock has been known to be shady af in the past so that was a no for me too. Just wanted to put that out there, for $205 this Asus may rank better, comparatively. The Tomahawk is a good board but cost a good deal more putting it in a different tier bracket, at least as far as my wallet is concerned and has a concerning percentage of 1 start reviews on Amazon comparatively to the others.
Looking for a similar board? So it looks like you’re recommending the Tuf board?
Reason I’m looking for a new z790 mobo even though I have a gigabyte z790 is because my gigabyte mobo keeps producing an extremely high pitch ringing sound like the one you hear in the ear doctor which sucks since sitting next to it for 8 hours
@@Alex-jb8wr I think I know what you're talking about, Alex. That super high-pitched whining sound some electronics make? Like so high pitched you'd think only dogs could hear it? 😄Sorry, I know - it's not a laughing matter if you have to listen to it all day. I've once returned a self-lit artificial x-mas tree to Costco specifically because of that - I could hear the damn thing every time I stayed in the living room. Wife thought I was crazy. 😄I feel your pain!
So you had me curious to see if the Asus Tuf board does something similar. I happen to have a noisy 6700xt video card (coil whine) - it's not too bad but it's enough to annoy me so I stick my PC under my desk which seems to mute the noise well enough. But I went ahead and pulled that noisy videocard out and just used the onboard video of my processor (another reason not to get an "F" version of a modern intel cpu if it's close in price - so convenient for stuff like this), just to test it... and I can happily report there's no such noise! Just the soothing sounds of my low speed case fans, nothing more, even under a CPU stress test. 👍
Now whether I recommend it... Well I've been quite satisfied with it so far. But I've only had it up and operational for a few days. Did my first stream with it last night with my favorite game. Extremely satisfied, actually... but that's because I haven't upgraded my motherboard in nearly 15 years! From an Asus p6t Deluxe X58 platform (first gen i7 and Xeon 5690) to a 12th gen i7-12700k! Of course I'm going to be satisfied with the results. 😄 No similar issues as the negative reviews stated on Amazon - it was relatively painless build actually, sans a bit of a windows 8.1 key to windows 11 pain-point that I eventually resolved.
If you're OK with the valid criticism that Laurent mentioned during this video, namely the relatively smaller, but still good VRMs... and upper slot M.2 PCI-E lane sharing (which this Asus board isn't the only board suffers from this), then... yeah! I do actually. But just be realistic about my recommendation. It's generally better to hear from someone who regularly test several recent motherboards vs one anecdotal good experience such as mine.
And there's just the electronic lottery. It's probably not all Gigabyte boards what yours is doing. You may have just got unlucky. Just like my noisy graphics card. Prior to keeping my current one 6700xt, I had another 6700xt that *didn't* exhibit coil whine. Not even a peep! But I ended up returning that one instead and kept the noisy one (kind of had to - long story) but thankfully it isn't super bad or as annoying as some other people's coil whine that I've heard described (some say just scrolling a webpage would make it whine, yikes!). 😅
Well that's a detailed (and useful) answer if I ever read one.
@@Laurentschoice 😁 Thanks Laurent. The thanksgiving vacation put me in a good headspace. I was in the mood to try and be helpful. :) Btw, keep it up - great channel! Subbed.
@@Sprinkles-BtE thanks for the amazing response! More leaning towards it now
Hello
As long as I avoid the 3rd M.2 slot I wont lose future GPU performance right?
I need to use the three M.2 gen4 ssd's I have.
Thanks.
Yes
There is a TUF Z790 Pro version, does it have the same bandwidth issue? Would you recommend ASUS Prime Z790-A over this board?
i ordered this board yesterday on dec 31 2023. (DDR4 version) . Its for a home multi task server (firewall / IPS, networking Vlans, fileserver, router, VM virtualization, media server). I bought 64gb ddr4 3600mhz for cheap $125us. I will add 3x2tb nvme ssd in Raid. Also 3 expansion card (intel i350-t4). Windows Server with Hyper-V running all virtual machines linux and windows (isolated for each others). This board is perfect for me, 3 pcie slot with at least X4. Also 4 nvme (x4 is fast enough). Choice of cpu is I5-13500 (65w) 14 cores (6p+8e). For my needs (3 slot with x4) the pci lane distrubution is perfect.
Hi. Laurent. Do I understand correctly? I shouldn't use the M.2 slot just above the PCI Express 5.0 slot so not to limit its bandwidth? If I use two lower M.2 slots lying nex to another and cooled by a common heatsink, will everything work properly? Thanks for all Your wark 🙂
Yes ur correct. And don't worry for the heatsink. The other connectors are all capped at PCIe 4.0 so less potential heating issues
Does the z790 pro have the same bandwidth issues as the z790 plus ? I was thinking about buying the z790 pro.
Do you think the D4 version also would support 14th gen?
Can we take display output from type c port ?
You are a rocker dude, u rock.
I found you last year when I was looking at components for my current build and I always enjoy seeing new stuff reviewed even though I have no desire/need to upgrade yet.
thats because im so darn good loooking
So does this mean the AORUS ELITE X you mentioned NOT take bandwidth from the graphics card when nvme is installed in top slot?
There was no visible or mentioned bifurcation.. so yes . You are correct.
That would be nice because the only thing keeping me away from the Aorus is that you have to uninstall the graphis card every time you want to add or remove an m.2 drive. This might make it worth it. @@Laurentschoice
Hi Laurent, is there a technically correct answer to the problem of the two 8-pin connectors?
The manual says nothing, the Asus forum says nothing, every owner of a TUF Z-790-plus is confused.
Does this board need you to connect both connectors or not? Some say the board is unstable or won't even boot unless you connect both, others says it's fine with just one connector.
I'm talking about people who report stability issues even with a 65W CPU. But is that really related to connecting just one connector??
Do you have any references/data for your claim that using 2 m.2 slots takes bandwidth away from the PCIE lane? All I could find from the motherboard manual related to bifurcation is about the Hyper M.2 X16 series cards.
It's not a claim I tested it for you.
Just for your information, 13 and 14th gen Intel core CPUs come with ONLY 16 PCIe 5.0 lanes in total. The chipset has none.
So you can't have a 16 lanes on the GPU + 4 on the m.2 SSD simultaneously (at PCIe 5.0 standard).
On every single Z790 powered motherboards in existence today, if you are going to use a PCIe 5.0 enable m.2 SSD... You will have a PCIe bifurcation which, at least, will divide the GPU bandwidth by 2.
I hope this helps
@Laurentschoice so this only applies to pcie 5 m2 drives? If I'm using pcie 4 lanes from the chipset on a pcie 4 m2 drive on the bottom, how does that rob pcie 5 lanes?
@@claysmurthwaite2386 Don't worry. He's confused. You are right. All of the on board m.2 are using pcie 4.0 x 4 lanes.
@RSharpe yes this is what I thought. The lower m2 slots should be using pcie4 lanes through chipset and won't affect the pcie5 lanes from the cpu at all.. thanks
Would you do a review on the Gigabyte Aorus Elite series and tell us which is best for which buyer?
I started the review today
@@Laurentschoice THANK YOU!
So I can buy Asus TUF GAMING Z790-PLUS WIFI D4 pair with i7-12700K and everything will work amazing ?
The 12700k will work very well with this MB. I have the same cpu oc at 5.1ghz on pcores and 4.0 on ecores. Got it paired with a 4080 all m.2 slots with 2tb 970 evo plus ssd's. I have no loss in performance at all
Had the board, just have me issues with. Tried different ram, replaced power supply, replaced graphics card. Checked CPU, something is just wrong with it. Not sure if anyone else experienced that problems
Exact same issues here!! For 2 months I've been wasting my time and more money trying to get this POS to work. . . Never again asus.
Update: Gigabyte 790 incoming
Laurent between this motherboard and the MSI z790 Tomahawk (DDR5), which one would you pick for an intel i9 13900k?
These are the other components of the pc:
- corsair 1000w gold plus
- rtx 3090 fe
- Corsair Vengeance 64 gb RAM 6400 mhz CL32
Thanks!
Returned an open box one from microcenter due to no M.2 or sata's recognized in BIOS at all. only usb's to back of board would be found.
Hi I just bought this motherboard for my new rig with 14900K and 4090 rtx. I haven't built anything yet. All in the boxes. Should I return this?
And one more question :) I just canceled my order on this mainboard. Would MSI Mpg Z790 Carbon be a good option for my 14900K and 4090 Rig? I'll probably use 3xM2 SSDs.
Wait for tomorrow ;)
Publishing the PERFEFT 14900K mobo reicew..... and I Mean PERFECT.
Ull worship me !
Affordable too? :) @@Laurentschoice
Yeah.... might be even a tad cheaper
How long will we wait? :) I really need to place my order online like today :) @@Laurentschoice
Hi Laurent. My son has this motherboard. He just upgraded to this , this past July. He luvs it. All his build is Tuff except for the chassis. That's NZXT. Please review MSI's Z790 Gaming Edge if you can. That's mine. 🖥
Hey David :)))) I made sure to underline what to do or not to do with it. MAKE SURE NOT TO USE THE 3rd M.2 SSD (top right). Especially as we move towards PCIe 5 enabled GPUs next year! For the rest, board is golden!
Ok so, now I am the ELITE Z790 WIFI7 from AORUS and going back to MSI after that :)
@@Laurentschoice Ok Thanks . He went with one of those "hated " Tuff RTX 4070 Ti's for gaming, so he's good for a few years.
Ahhh... why did u risk yourself buying a board I didn't review!
Your practically my number 1 loyal viewer David !@@@@@
@@Laurentschoice Well other board reviewers (cough , cough ) gave their stamp of approval back in July when I chose it. I'm still waiting on yours if given. 🤠
I just associated your name with that of the pivotal character from the walking dead Daryl Dixon. Love your videos
It's been awhile since someone called me by my baptized name !!!
I love Laurent 😊,i Just subscribed.
Bravo Laurent.
Huh. You'd think TUF would have a contact plate in exchange for all of those.. odd choices but hey, it's still a board in the 790 lineup.
I love me some aSuSwhooping. 😂
Thank you very much, Laurent. Have a nice weekend.
Ahahah... I'm about to get some hate mail in my inbox....
Intel's 14th gen isn't a new gen, it's 13.5th gen.
not even that, it's just rebranded 13th gen - exact same cpus clocked a mere 200mhz higher
Que fais-tu aux États-Unis?
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I have this board and I'm running an i9 14900k. It runs my i9 flawlessly.
You are flawless,,😘
Did the 14th gen cpu worked out of the box or did you need a bios update?
@@soorajsingh4382 just bought this board and it came with BIOS 1603, which supports 14th GEN out of the box if I'm not mistaken
BUT elite AX has no matching audio chip...bad advice
Gigabit, MSI, Abit and now ASUS, MB that just broke down, no OC just went dead. Are there any brands that you can trust or are they cutting corners? Selling over priced crap?
Are Asus motherboard safe to buy now?
I rarely see a video where any of these tech guys have something positive to say about anything they review. They are always disappointed with something.
Hey Laurent, bit suppriced that you are the only reviewer that don't like this board, I just bought this board, ddr 4 version, (ddr5 way too expensive to be a value atm) cs my 5900x system went dark. Do I buy a new B550? Checked around benchmarks and even a 13gen I5 is way faster then a 5900x these days, For me the ASUS Tuf has the gen 5 pci for gpu, still runing 3060ti and by far enought got the games I play. For me the back plate con rules on this board, 8 high speed and 4 M.2, for me this is the perfect fit for my needs. BTW the B550 Gigabyte you recommended and I bought died after 18 mounths. Going back to Intel and Asus. For the last 30 years 4-5 MB has broken, non of them was ASUS, still have WS Asus pre iCore with x48 chip and it still works, that one I overclocked silly from 2,86 to 4GHz. Not your fault that my Gigabyte b550 MB failed, you look at how it's looks from an engineers point of view, you're funny and smart. I also bought a 13700kf, best bang for the buck atm is the 13600kf
Maybe this MB will have 14900kf and a next gen gpu, who knows? just looked like a winner for my needs
It is not so much that I don't like it :)
It's more that... The competition is doing, in some instances, a better job for the same or less money.
If you manage to get this board for about 50 bucks less... Than it's a MUST buy!
I got this board for about 230EUR, some prices for this in Sweden is over 400EUR!!!, insane, but there it is, the alternative was Gibabyte UD for about 210EUR. I see my self having it for 3-4 years. I have option to upgrade Gpu to 5th gen pci, and Cpu to a 14900kf if prices drop. I had a pair of DDR4 4000, cl18, Gskill 32Gb laying around and DDR 5 is super expensive atm. I'm pairing this with a 13700kf atm, about 100 EUR less then a 14700kf where I live. This is my thoughts about why I bought this MB. And for the first time in about 10 years I',m doing a water cooling of the cpu, the artic 280 2d gen, alrady have 2 140 pwm Noctua so it going to be a puch pull. Silent pwr, I hope@@Laurentschoice
All installed and working perfect, not mind-blowing performance, but all working as expected, except from the cooling. The cooling is rly mind-blowing, the Artic 280 is by far better than I expected. The push pull with my 2 140 Nocua PWM, that I previously used as case fans is just amazing. It idle at 28c.
Did a short stress test with CPU-Z, CPU temp is 65c and fans going about 60%. When I game I don’t even hear that the PC is on. Very happy😊
What I don't like is BIOS upgrade, I had to goggle it to figure out how it's done and it's not at all user friendly.
Not having a option of upgrade BIOS with usb pre build is rly crappy.
I have build my own systems for 30years and this is a key functions for the MB to work properly
For those who are intrested, I use a Fractal Design Define 7 Compact case, best sound dampning and easy to build in case you can find, also not expensive, and like Köningsegg, it's Swedish. Sorry Laurent, but Bugatti spells Volkswagen these days, though I am a big Bugatti fan as well.
где тесты? Либовски?
Хвала!
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101 Computers , 1x for sound, 4x for capture card, 4x for thunderbolt 1x ..... wait o no not enough for a 10GB card FAIL ! need more x4 !
the one you suggested and put a link too was DDR4 lol FAIL !
Alert ! Despite being Taiwanese Asus have decided to act a bit like the Chinese. They have a so called "support app". This app gives itself permissions to literally everything on your pc, including your personal contacts, registry, etc. No limits. This is spyware like I haven't seen before.
All I wanted to know is whether to connect 1 out of 2 8-pin CPU connectors, or both. The manual has no information whatsoever on it, it seems to suggest to connect both, but I think it needs only 1, and I have no intention of getting my privacy invaded in order to send a simple question to Asus. Shame on you, Asus.
Thank you so much for mentioning the m2 slot taking bandwidth from the x16 slot on some ASUS boards! ASUS really should stop doing this, it exists purely as stats padding and making a worse end user experience.
I agree, but by the time a real board that need PCIE5 arrives, we would be at 16th gen? ... there is no real competition to the 4090 at the moment and any card that claim to have PCIE5 (but performs worst than 4090 or even 7900xtx) is probably just stat padding their product.
The PCIe bifurcation has nothing to do with the m2 slots build in on the mainbord. It is relevant for an additionally sold Hyper m.2 pcie 16x card which can hold up to 4 additional SSDs. You don’t sacrifice your PCIe 16x gen 5 slot when using more than 1 internal m2 ssd as wrongly stated in the video, only when you add the Hyper m.2 pcie 16x card. Furthermore this is a chipset limitation and not specific to this board, lots of wrong information…
Asus no more... I hate to say it my TUF Z790 broke down after 3 mouths, both Jay and Gamers Nexus told me so but it's hard to believe, My favorite brand of the last 20 years is shit. Military grade componests... right...I still have ASUS WS MB with a x48 chip that works and I put that one through hell.
So I am confused. Is it good or bad? Because all I saw were compliments, with some nitpicking that most people would never care about... JFC. i think he just has a hate boner for ASUS...
Gigabyte Products !
Are pretty bad