I dont get all the people out there complaining about not being able to afford a rolex so that is their reasoning behind hating. I mean, it's not for you then, right? It's like hating Rolls Royce for not selling an affordable car, or not being able to afford a yacht, or not capable of eating caviar because they cant afford it. No common sense. No one has any right or even entitlement to own something. If you cant afford, you cant afford then. Theres nothing wrong with that. Why the hate?
Rolex is the Seiko of the wealthy. Why people would beg a Brand or Dealer, for a mass produced watch, is beyond me. Having to make small talk, to justify why I want to purchase, or listen to the suggestion that I need to purchase things, I don’t want, to be considered, to give you my money, is akin to a strung out drug addict, groveling for drugs. It’s not like I’m dying and need a Kidney, so I sit on a wait list, hoping I get the call before I die. If you want a Rolex, go to the secondary market and buy what you want. Supply and demand dictates price. Worth is relevant to how bad you want it. Or, be patient and eventually the dealers will be giving discounts, on what they need to move, before next year’s inventory comes in and they sit on their cash. By that time the discounts, on the secondary market will be fat when all the hype buyers figure out it’s a mass produced watch they over paid for and want some of their money back out of it.
@@uncles2000 Old adage is true good things come to those who wait. But in the end what we have seen and experienced creates the hype. So best just to watch the show with some popcorn.
The AD waitlists and grey market just sucks. However, the watches are fantastic. The reason they are so desirable is that they are recognizable and have only changed slightly over the years. To be recognizable it needs to be somewhat common. I love my submariner. When I see someone else wearing one we acknowledged each other, like Harley or Jeep owners. It’s cool.
No it's marketing and fake supply and demand. Rolex used to be super cheap. Now you feel like you are in the club because you got one and normal people didn't.
@@Chris-de2qc Be it marketing or otherwise it is what it is… Diamond are worthless and not rare but still top dollar.. why because people are buying. Demand and supply. With this being said it holds a special place in the watch industry and most folks work hard to get one to celebrate their accomplishments however and whatever that may mean regardless.
@@Chris-de2qc Rolex’s history and craftsmanship make it special, not just marketing. It’s a brand that watch lovers admire, and it also earns genuine appreciation from those who aren’t watch enthusiasts.
Much of the Rolex hate has been surrounding how ADs work. ADs preferentially selling to volume flippers created increased scarcity and frustration for potential new buyers. This peaked during the pandemic. Now that Rolex purchased Bucherer, I would like to see them gain more control over sales and distribution.
@@tuberaider Completely agree but let’s not for one minute think Rolex cares since it is hyper boosting their brand and appeal. But in the long run if they don’t focus on the quality of the ADs and their attitudes it will put a lot of us off not because we don’t like their watch anymore but because we just don’t want to put up with the BS. everyone has a limit when it comes to patience.
the price. until 2000 a Datejust or an Explorer cost a monthly salary. now triple or quadruple: unjustified The purchasing experience. you have to be a good customer, that is, buy other things first just to get on the waiting list! (a bribe) the list. we all know it's artificial scarcity
Projected value and prestiege is something that is universally agreed, if you project but it's not receptive to anyone then the value doesn't exsist. So I guess we're all just really good actors in playing along with the scheme. Personally, I understand that Rolex has a place at the heart of the Swiss Watch Industry, but I don't thinking they should be lauded as the absolute watch brand that some people carry on for. There is plenty of love to go around and every brand has its own unique spin on the craft of watch making and expressing horology. Shout out to my most unmentioned brand Carl F. Bucherer. Thanks for bringing about this discussion though. I love that the watch industry is very self-aware and open to have these heated discussions for something so meaningless in the grand scheme of the universe.
It is not about worrying for conversing about a hobby. This is what make a hobby more interesting and engaging. Sharing our opinions without judgement.
Overrated and overpriced and waitlist?? =DDD really =)) =)). Not to mention 70% people around me wearing Rolex know nothing about watch, literally nothing. Some of my friends just buy Rolex to look like a business man doing transactions, and they ask me when they need to change the battery :)) :)).
I dont get all the people out there complaining about not being able to afford a rolex so that is their reasoning behind hating. I mean, it's not for you then, right? It's like hating Rolls Royce for not selling an affordable car, or not being able to afford a yacht, or not capable of eating caviar because they cant afford it. No common sense. No one has any right or even entitlement to own something. If you cant afford, you cant afford then. Theres nothing wrong with that. Why the hate?
Rolex is the Seiko of the wealthy. Why people would beg a Brand or Dealer, for a mass produced watch, is beyond me. Having to make small talk, to justify why I want to purchase, or listen to the suggestion that I need to purchase things, I don’t want, to be considered, to give you my money, is akin to a strung out drug addict, groveling for drugs. It’s not like I’m dying and need a Kidney, so I sit on a wait list, hoping I get the call before I die. If you want a Rolex, go to the secondary market and buy what you want. Supply and demand dictates price. Worth is relevant to how bad you want it. Or, be patient and eventually the dealers will be giving discounts, on what they need to move, before next year’s inventory comes in and they sit on their cash. By that time the discounts, on the secondary market will be fat when all the hype buyers figure out it’s a mass produced watch they over paid for and want some of their money back out of it.
@@uncles2000 Old adage is true good things come to those who wait. But in the end what we have seen and experienced creates the hype. So best just to watch the show with some popcorn.
The AD waitlists and grey market just sucks. However, the watches are fantastic. The reason they are so desirable is that they are recognizable and have only changed slightly over the years. To be recognizable it needs to be somewhat common. I love my submariner. When I see someone else wearing one we acknowledged each other, like Harley or Jeep owners. It’s cool.
Completely agree.
No it's marketing and fake supply and demand. Rolex used to be super cheap. Now you feel like you are in the club because you got one and normal people didn't.
@@Chris-de2qc Be it marketing or otherwise it is what it is… Diamond are worthless and not rare but still top dollar.. why because people are buying. Demand and supply. With this being said it holds a special place in the watch industry and most folks work hard to get one to celebrate their accomplishments however and whatever that may mean regardless.
@@Chris-de2qc super cheap?
@@Chris-de2qc Rolex’s history and craftsmanship make it special, not just marketing. It’s a brand that watch lovers admire, and it also earns genuine appreciation from those who aren’t watch enthusiasts.
Much of the Rolex hate has been surrounding how ADs work. ADs preferentially selling to volume flippers created increased scarcity and frustration for potential new buyers. This peaked during the pandemic. Now that Rolex purchased Bucherer, I would like to see them gain more control over sales and distribution.
@@tuberaider Completely agree but let’s not for one minute think Rolex cares since it is hyper boosting their brand and appeal. But in the long run if they don’t focus on the quality of the ADs and their attitudes it will put a lot of us off not because we don’t like their watch anymore but because we just don’t want to put up with the BS. everyone has a limit when it comes to patience.
the price. until 2000 a Datejust or an Explorer cost a monthly salary. now triple or quadruple: unjustified
The purchasing experience. you have to be a good customer, that is, buy other things first just to get on the waiting list! (a bribe)
the list. we all know it's artificial scarcity
Projected value and prestiege is something that is universally agreed, if you project but it's not receptive to anyone then the value doesn't exsist. So I guess we're all just really good actors in playing along with the scheme.
Personally, I understand that Rolex has a place at the heart of the Swiss Watch Industry, but I don't thinking they should be lauded as the absolute watch brand that some people carry on for. There is plenty of love to go around and every brand has its own unique spin on the craft of watch making and expressing horology. Shout out to my most unmentioned brand Carl F. Bucherer.
Thanks for bringing about this discussion though. I love that the watch industry is very self-aware and open to have these heated discussions for something so meaningless in the grand scheme of the universe.
Great input!
Rolex hates the consumers.
Some people like Rolex, some don't. Worrying about it is a waste of time.
It is not about worrying for conversing about a hobby. This is what make a hobby more interesting and engaging. Sharing our opinions without judgement.
Overrated and overpriced and waitlist?? =DDD really =)) =)). Not to mention 70% people around me wearing Rolex know nothing about watch, literally nothing. Some of my friends just buy Rolex to look like a business man doing transactions, and they ask me when they need to change the battery :)) :)).
Bullshit, prove it
@@robocopvn unless they have a Rolex oyster quartz.. haha