Hey just wanted to thank you for the time,effort, expense of making these videos. I have a 2k on my low mileage fusion motor, runs great, powerful....wish it was more so, but a definite improvement. Could not, would not have attempted it without your and other videos. Thanks again.
I just put a 2015 2.5L into my wifes 2007 Mazda3. Works absolutely fantastic, and the timing advice from Baxrok2 was very helpful. I made a couple tools from the flexplate that came with the 2.5 to hold the flywheel and the front pulley while I torqued the front pulley bolt. 1. Bought an adaptor from ebay for $20 to use the 2.3 intake. Left the rail/injectors on the 2.5. 2. Had to RTV the VVT seal from the 2.5 valve cover on the inside because the VVT solenoid was smaller. 3. Spliced the VVT connector from the 2.5 in place of the 2.3 one. 4. Left the 2.5 oil filter housing on so I could use the standard oil filter type. Got an engine code at first, but went away after 20 miles or so. Has more power, and sounds great.
@@darrynfrost5400 I'm very glad to hear that it's being referenced there but mainly I'm happy that it is helping people. That was the goal all along. The videos are far from perfect but I wanted to answer as many questions as I could so people wouldn't have to stress out over the procedure like I did during my swap. Thanks!
@@jordennivens9283 It's been a while but from what I remember, I kept the 2.5's. Given that there was a slight difference in the 2.5 head, I though it was best. Probably not a big difference either way.
I loved the music and the swagger! You stuck with the process and now can reap the rewards. Your smiles says it all, well done. All the boys that helped will be proud. Now take a break and enjoy the drive.
Great job man! I considered doing this swap to my 05 Mazda 3 with the same oil consumption problem, but I ended up selling the car and getting an 08 Speed 3. With my luck, the Speed 3 i purchased has a Cylinder 2 leak issue, but no oil consumption. I'm thinking about swapping the engine for a built long block in the future and I think your videos will come in handy.
can you post a picture or share a link to proper live data that's from factory service manual ? i want to check my live data for my 2006 Mazda 3s 2.3 l auto i don't know if its different ?
Hey. Great series of videos. Have one question, after completing this swap and then driving for a bunch of miles, did you find any performance gain from the 2.5 over the 2.3 and did you notice any difference in fuel economy ? Thanks for your time . Cheers
Steve Duncan Well, the old engine was so worn out that anything was better! No, didn't really notice any big performance gain. I have no idea about the fuel mileage since it was driven by my teenage son. I wouldn't expect any improvement though.
Baxrok2 thanks for your prompt reply. happy new year ! i would like to applaud you for your patience and perseverance in seeing this project through to a positive result. well done !
Sorry if you covered this in one of the videos but it was not covered in your forum post. Why did you use the Mazda water pump pulley instead of the Ford? what is the difference? I am in the research phase of swapping a 2.5 into my 2007 2 door focus and I am planning in using the Mazda 3 pulley set up so that I can have power steering A/C delete. It looks like the Mazda alternator bolts right up to where is A/C was one the ford engine and I know from wiring diagrams that both alternators are controlled via a two wire request/response system so that should work fine.
Can't remember off the top of my head. I'll check tomorrow afternoon when I can get to my garage. I believe that they are different sizes. I'll let you know.
So sorry it took me so long to get back to you! I kinda forgot, busy, busy. Anyway, looking at the water pump pulley from the Ford, I confirmed, it's quite a bit larger than the Mazda pulley.
Do you by any chance know what is there to do in terms of swapping 2.5 into Mazda 3 with 2.0 engine? I think mine is starting to burn oil and I'm considering doing the swap. Or maybe you could put down a list of what things need to be kept from the 2.3 engine and put on 2.5 engine? Can you recommend what engine to look for? Any particular engine codes?
I do not know about the 2.0 to 2.5 swap. You need to go to Mazda3Forums.com for answers because if the swap can be done somebody there has done it and posted all of the details you're looking for. Good luck!
Great video mate, I'm thinking of doing the swap into a 2004 mazda speed 3, I have access to a 2010 with the 2.5, complete car that has severe hail damage, Would you know if it Is any easier with the mazda engine in comparison to the ford engine, any advice would be appreciated
Yes, a Mazda to Mazda swap is much, much easier. Its actually the best way to do it. However the downside to it is that you still have a Mazda engine lol and it's most likely higher mileage. But, if you got a good deal on the (hopefully healthy) donor car, it's probably a good swap. Can easily be done in a weekend. Good luck!
@@stefmin1357 If you have an 04 or 05 you'll have to put the cam sensor from that motor onto the 10 motor. Which means you'll need to do the timing job. Otherwise, the manifold and throttle body can stay. I'd encourage you to go to Mazda3Forums.com and follow the threads for the motor swap. That is where I got all of my info from. It's been a while now since I did my swap so do double check me.
Dose of Jay I don't know of anyone who has done it. It would not be a simple job and would require wiring harness changes and the PCM from the Speed. Easier to just get a Speed with a blown engine and swap in a new one. Speeds with blown engine show up weekly on Craigslist! Search Mazda forums for more info but I think the answer will be the same, don't bother trying to swap a Speed into a regular 3.
Given this is what I've gathered from forum posts, but it is surely possible but you have to swap out everything that's different on the 3. Transmission, wiring harnesses, motor, ecu, etc. It'll be much cheaper to buy a Mazdaspeed 3/6. If I was trying to get one, I'd try to find one for really cheap at auction, maybe IAAI.com (Insurance Auto Auctions), that's not running but has a clean CarFax report with no wrecks, and rebuild the motor or get a low mileage version from LKQ on ebay. Disclaimer: I've bought a few cars off of IAAI.com already and you want to check out your state's salvage laws if you're looking for something you can actually drive on the road. "Clear" title means the car hasn't be totaled or salvaged previously, "Bill of Sale" means an insurance company bought and it's totaled. For about $500 from Harbor Freight you can get nearly everything you need to pull the bad motor (ie. sockets, wreches, engine hoist, engine stand, rags, drip pans). I'm in the process of swapping a low mileage 2011 Mazda 2.5 engine into my 2007 Mazda 3 in place of the 2.3.
I think I saw your posts on the Mazda3 forums. Would it be possible to email or something so I can pick your brain? I have a 2006 Mazda3 with a tick. If it NEEDS a new engine, I'm going to do a 2.5 swap. I've read EVERYTHING on it, but there are a couple things I'm unsure about.
Ask me here, that way everyone else can benefit. Otherwise, you can pm me through YT or the forum. I'm DanHas3 there. I certainly don't have all the answers, but I'll try to help.
I thought that was you on the forum. I have a 2006 Mazda3 5 speed hatch, which I understand makes a couple of aspects simpler. I have 2 questions for now... 1. Regarding pulling the engine, is there any way to pull it out the top, without risking the differential gears? I understand that the trans basically HAS to come out with. I have read I can just disconnect the D/S cv at the hub and leave it in the tranny. On the P/S, there is a shaft coming out of the tranny that is mounted to the backside of the engine. It looks like the cv can be disconnected after that mount point, leaving the shaft in the tranny. 2. Regarding the clutch, mine currently feels perfect, and I'm trying to get this thing on the road before next year. I fully intend to have it replaced, but would it be just a terrible idea to reuse my clutch and pressure plate(assuming no obvious flaws once it's out of the car) for now to get it going. I can afford to put it in the shop for the clutch in a few months. This is one of those, I'm poor and need to run the cost down as much as possible sort of deals. I refuse to cut corners on this engine swap, but I have to make do with what I have, and I'm not concerned with "fix it now BECAUSE the engine is out and it's easy. I will fix anything that needs it, but otherwise I will just let a shop handle things later. I spent about a decade shoulder deep in engine bays and it's just not my thing anymore.
1) I pulled my engine out the top with the axles out and radiator/fan still in. To make it easier, take the trans mount bracket off of the transmission. Engine will come right out. I took the D/S halfshaft and CV out for added clearance. They are very easy to get out and when you get to pulling the engine that added room is worth the time it takes. Can you leave the halfshaft (part attached to motor) in? Probably, but I didn't try it. If you leave the radiator and fan in like I did I don't think you'll have enough room though. I've read that the biggest risk to the diff gears is that if you pull the axles the gears can drop down inside the trans meaning you'll have to take the trans apart to fix it. I pulled both axles and put two thick pieces of wire through the trans on either side of the diff shaft. I taped the ends together so nothing moved. Worked perfectly and didn't get in the way during the pull. 2) Terrible idea to reuse the clutch? No, not at all. I'm poor too, so I get it! The only reason I did the "fix it now" thing on everything is because I'm getting old and didn't want to have to go back and do things later! lol
This has been discussed and debated often on the Mazda3Forums. You can go there to see for yourself what people are saying which might help. Most people it seems never bother with a tune unless they are doing a performance oriented swap. Most swappers I find are more interested in simply getting their cars back on the road and so are not doing any further tuning. In my opinion a tune is not necessary for a successful swap. I've had no problems with my swap on the stock ECU. Engine parameters are all in range and it's running fine. Seat of the pants says all's well also. Would a tune help? Well as with most tunes, probably. Would it help enough to justify a ~$500 tune for a few HP and FTlbs torque on a stock engine that's running fine? Well, ultimately that's up to you to decide, but for me the answer is no.
Hey just wanted to thank you for the time,effort, expense of making these videos. I have a 2k on my low mileage fusion motor, runs great, powerful....wish it was more so, but a definite improvement. Could not, would not have attempted it without your and other videos. Thanks again.
Just finished this swap myself and. This man came in handy alot.
I just put a 2015 2.5L into my wifes 2007 Mazda3. Works absolutely fantastic, and the timing advice from Baxrok2 was very helpful. I made a couple tools from the flexplate that came with the 2.5 to hold the flywheel and the front pulley while I torqued the front pulley bolt.
1. Bought an adaptor from ebay for $20 to use the 2.3 intake. Left the rail/injectors on the 2.5.
2. Had to RTV the VVT seal from the 2.5 valve cover on the inside because the VVT solenoid was smaller.
3. Spliced the VVT connector from the 2.5 in place of the 2.3 one.
4. Left the 2.5 oil filter housing on so I could use the standard oil filter type.
Got an engine code at first, but went away after 20 miles or so. Has more power, and sounds great.
Well done sir. Congrats!
@@baxrok2. I ended up on your timing video from a post on the Mazda3Forums about this swap.
@@darrynfrost5400 I'm very glad to hear that it's being referenced there but mainly I'm happy that it is helping people. That was the goal all along. The videos are far from perfect but I wanted to answer as many questions as I could so people wouldn't have to stress out over the procedure like I did during my swap. Thanks!
@@baxrok2. are you using the 2.3 injectors or the 2.5 injectors?
@@jordennivens9283 It's been a while but from what I remember, I kept the 2.5's. Given that there was a slight difference in the 2.5 head, I though it was best. Probably not a big difference either way.
Excellent informative videos.
Many thanks
I loved the music and the swagger! You stuck with the process and now can reap the rewards. Your smiles says it all, well done. All the boys that helped will be proud. Now take a break and enjoy the drive.
Thanks for going along for the ride and for your encouragement!
I showed up late , but it looks like you done a very good job .
Thanks for following along this whole time. I hope this helps others who are considering this swap!
Nice work. I like your scan tool. Thank you for sharing. Cheers
Great job man! I considered doing this swap to my 05 Mazda 3 with the same oil consumption problem, but I ended up selling the car and getting an 08 Speed 3. With my luck, the Speed 3 i purchased has a Cylinder 2 leak issue, but no oil consumption. I'm thinking about swapping the engine for a built long block in the future and I think your videos will come in handy.
Ian Leung Great, I'm glad the info will help!
Great video production! Glad you got it working right, and thanks for the shout out,
Noah.
Fastest Caskets So glad you stopped by! Timing videos coming soon to help folks, hopefully as much as you helped me.
can you post a picture or share a link to proper live data that's from factory service manual ? i want to check my live data for my 2006 Mazda 3s 2.3 l auto i don't know if its different ?
Good stuff!
Thanks Thomas!
I'm trying to swap my 07 3 Mazda with a Ford fusion dokic have to by any parts or anything like a harness or wires
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What type of engine is it though? Like I was thinking about swapping mine with a K24 Ik it’s a complete motor manfucater jump but woukd it fit?
Hey. Great series of videos. Have one question, after completing this swap and then driving for a bunch of miles, did you find any performance gain from the 2.5 over the 2.3 and did you notice any difference in fuel economy ? Thanks for your time . Cheers
Steve Duncan Well, the old engine was so worn out that anything was better! No, didn't really notice any big performance gain. I have no idea about the fuel mileage since it was driven by my teenage son. I wouldn't expect any improvement though.
Baxrok2 thanks for your prompt reply. happy new year ! i would like to applaud you for your patience and perseverance in seeing this project through to a positive result. well done !
Steve Duncan Thanks, and Happy New Year to you!
Sorry if you covered this in one of the videos but it was not covered in your forum post. Why did you use the Mazda water pump pulley instead of the Ford? what is the difference? I am in the research phase of swapping a 2.5 into my 2007 2 door focus and I am planning in using the Mazda 3 pulley set up so that I can have power steering A/C delete. It looks like the Mazda alternator bolts right up to where is A/C was one the ford engine and I know from wiring diagrams that both alternators are controlled via a two wire request/response system so that should work fine.
Can't remember off the top of my head. I'll check tomorrow afternoon when I can get to my garage. I believe that they are different sizes. I'll let you know.
Thank you!
So sorry it took me so long to get back to you! I kinda forgot, busy, busy. Anyway, looking at the water pump pulley from the Ford, I confirmed, it's quite a bit larger than the Mazda pulley.
I've done this swap a few times and have always put the Mazda pully on the Ford water pump. No issues so far lol.
Do you by any chance know what is there to do in terms of swapping 2.5 into Mazda 3 with 2.0 engine? I think mine is starting to burn oil and I'm considering doing the swap. Or maybe you could put down a list of what things need to be kept from the 2.3 engine and put on 2.5 engine? Can you recommend what engine to look for? Any particular engine codes?
I do not know about the 2.0 to 2.5 swap. You need to go to Mazda3Forums.com for answers because if the swap can be done somebody there has done it and posted all of the details you're looking for. Good luck!
Great video mate, I'm thinking of doing the swap into a 2004 mazda speed 3, I have access to a 2010 with the 2.5, complete car that has severe hail damage, Would you know if it Is any easier with the mazda engine in comparison to the ford engine, any advice would be appreciated
Yes, a Mazda to Mazda swap is much, much easier. Its actually the best way to do it. However the downside to it is that you still have a Mazda engine lol and it's most likely higher mileage. But, if you got a good deal on the (hopefully healthy) donor car, it's probably a good swap. Can easily be done in a weekend. Good luck!
@@baxrok2. Thanks for the reply,
Do you know if I would still need to replace the intake manifold or throttle body, cam timing sensor etc like you did
@@stefmin1357 If you have an 04 or 05 you'll have to put the cam sensor from that motor onto the 10 motor. Which means you'll need to do the timing job. Otherwise, the manifold and throttle body can stay. I'd encourage you to go to Mazda3Forums.com and follow the threads for the motor swap. That is where I got all of my info from. It's been a while now since I did my swap so do double check me.
@@baxrok2. Thank you Baxrok2 you are a gentleman!
May I also add, a write up on various mazda fourms would be nice.
SlowcarsInc Probably won't do that since that's kind of a pain plus I've already invested quite a bit of time in the videos. Thanks!
Time to find some 2.5 badges?
SlowcarsInc Haha, I wanted to but never did.
Will a Mazdaspeed 3/6 engine swap into a regular Mazda 3?
Dose of Jay I don't know of anyone who has done it. It would not be a simple job and would require wiring harness changes and the PCM from the Speed. Easier to just get a Speed with a blown engine and swap in a new one. Speeds with blown engine show up weekly on Craigslist! Search Mazda forums for more info but I think the answer will be the same, don't bother trying to swap a Speed into a regular 3.
Given this is what I've gathered from forum posts, but it is surely possible but you have to swap out everything that's different on the 3. Transmission, wiring harnesses, motor, ecu, etc. It'll be much cheaper to buy a Mazdaspeed 3/6. If I was trying to get one, I'd try to find one for really cheap at auction, maybe IAAI.com (Insurance Auto Auctions), that's not running but has a clean CarFax report with no wrecks, and rebuild the motor or get a low mileage version from LKQ on ebay. Disclaimer: I've bought a few cars off of IAAI.com already and you want to check out your state's salvage laws if you're looking for something you can actually drive on the road. "Clear" title means the car hasn't be totaled or salvaged previously, "Bill of Sale" means an insurance company bought and it's totaled. For about $500 from Harbor Freight you can get nearly everything you need to pull the bad motor (ie. sockets, wreches, engine hoist, engine stand, rags, drip pans). I'm in the process of swapping a low mileage 2011 Mazda 2.5 engine into my 2007 Mazda 3 in place of the 2.3.
I think I saw your posts on the Mazda3 forums. Would it be possible to email or something so I can pick your brain? I have a 2006 Mazda3 with a tick. If it NEEDS a new engine, I'm going to do a 2.5 swap. I've read EVERYTHING on it, but there are a couple things I'm unsure about.
Ask me here, that way everyone else can benefit. Otherwise, you can pm me through YT or the forum. I'm DanHas3 there. I certainly don't have all the answers, but I'll try to help.
I thought that was you on the forum. I have a 2006 Mazda3 5 speed hatch, which I understand makes a couple of aspects simpler. I have 2 questions for now...
1. Regarding pulling the engine, is there any way to pull it out the top, without risking the differential gears? I understand that the trans basically HAS to come out with. I have read I can just disconnect the D/S cv at the hub and leave it in the tranny. On the P/S, there is a shaft coming out of the tranny that is mounted to the backside of the engine. It looks like the cv can be disconnected after that mount point, leaving the shaft in the tranny.
2. Regarding the clutch, mine currently feels perfect, and I'm trying to get this thing on the road before next year. I fully intend to have it replaced, but would it be just a terrible idea to reuse my clutch and pressure plate(assuming no obvious flaws once it's out of the car) for now to get it going. I can afford to put it in the shop for the clutch in a few months. This is one of those, I'm poor and need to run the cost down as much as possible sort of deals.
I refuse to cut corners on this engine swap, but I have to make do with what I have, and I'm not concerned with "fix it now BECAUSE the engine is out and it's easy. I will fix anything that needs it, but otherwise I will just let a shop handle things later. I spent about a decade shoulder deep in engine bays and it's just not my thing anymore.
1) I pulled my engine out the top with the axles out and radiator/fan still in. To make it easier, take the trans mount bracket off of the transmission. Engine will come right out. I took the D/S halfshaft and CV out for added clearance. They are very easy to get out and when you get to pulling the engine that added room is worth the time it takes. Can you leave the halfshaft (part attached to motor) in? Probably, but I didn't try it. If you leave the radiator and fan in like I did I don't think you'll have enough room though.
I've read that the biggest risk to the diff gears is that if you pull the axles the gears can drop down inside the trans meaning you'll have to take the trans apart to fix it. I pulled both axles and put two thick pieces of wire through the trans on either side of the diff shaft. I taped the ends together so nothing moved. Worked perfectly and didn't get in the way during the pull.
2) Terrible idea to reuse the clutch? No, not at all. I'm poor too, so I get it! The only reason I did the "fix it now" thing on everything is because I'm getting old and didn't want to have to go back and do things later! lol
I’ve heard the 2006+ Mazdas are easier to swap, is that true?
Did you need to tune the ECU to get the best of the 2.5?
This has been discussed and debated often on the Mazda3Forums. You can go there to see for yourself what people are saying which might help. Most people it seems never bother with a tune unless they are doing a performance oriented swap. Most swappers I find are more interested in simply getting their cars back on the road and so are not doing any further tuning. In my opinion a tune is not necessary for a successful swap. I've had no problems with my swap on the stock ECU. Engine parameters are all in range and it's running fine. Seat of the pants says all's well also. Would a tune help? Well as with most tunes, probably. Would it help enough to justify a ~$500 tune for a few HP and FTlbs torque on a stock engine that's running fine? Well, ultimately that's up to you to decide, but for me the answer is no.
Baxrok2 Thank you, that clarifies a lot of back and forth I've read in different forums.
Baxrok2
does this also hold truth for 2.0 im doing this but thought I needed a tune
You are swapping a 2.0 with another 2.0?
2.0 to a 2.5 I didnt want to run into lean issues