Excellent explanation of the air leaks!!!! Had a few guys tell me these exact carbs where cheap shit.... Yet my son's small Baja 196 rips with it. Your explanation of the jet sizing is gonna be a life saver!!! Cause I've been getting bogging at about half throttle. I'll swap the standard jet for a larger one. I'll report back once done
So far, my PWK is working pretty good. I have a 24mm on my mild built Ducar 212. The only issue I had, is the plastic cover that holds the cable in the slide and the needle in place, wasn't sitting all the way down, causing the needle to move. Once I figured out, that I have to press the plastic cover all the way down until it stops, it has nee a great carb. I put 20+ miles or more on my bike every nite and i don't have any issues now. I will buy one of these carbs, to see how it compares.
I'm about to do a first carb change. I'm going with the cheap Amazon one to replace the stock one on my Chinese bike. It's interesting to see all the details of possible problems when setting up.
Lol mine is coming in after my new nibbis float decided to stop the flow of fuel 😅 So I ordered that same one to arrive today as I wait on my nibbis replacement on Thursday. One of the two is gonna be a back up carb =)
When I installed it I could not get the engine to start, but it did run with the stock carb. What I had to do was 1: the air mixture screw at the bottom was backed out 5 turns out of the box. I ran it down and backed it out 1 turn. 2: I did install a larger main jet as recommended for a 212 Predator. I could then start it but it would not run off choke and had a bad bog off idle. 3: This was the real problem that I found that the pilot jet was blocked solid. I could not see through it or get a wire through it. I had to use a #59 drill bit to clear the blockage. After that I could start the engine and get it to run off the choke.
Dude I got the same carb, it intakes to much air for the 196cc. I ran it on choke and my bike ran flawless without backfiring out the exhaust. Soon as I turn off the choke I get backfire out the exhaust from to much air. I’m in Michigan so I had to down my pilot jet. I might have to bump to a 30 though cause now I’m to lean as well. Rich or lean I still had backfire. I’m gonna check to see if it’s a vacuum leak
I got a 224 no gov, straight pipe and im up to a 140 main, 5th eclip position, still cuts in n out, no air keaks, sprayed the entire setup and no pickup so elimantes any leaks.....
So I lined up the seal as best I could. It does not line up as center as yours does for some reason idk. 🤷🏼♂️ gotta get her warmed up to operating temp and see if it’s still a vacuum leak. I’m convinced this carb just takes in to much air and that’s what’s causing my exhaust deceleration pop or backfire. Idk 🤷🏼♂️
If you need choke to keep it idling a 130 main jet isn't going to help. Look for a vacuum leak like he said in the video. The main jet doesn't do anything below half throttle.
@@Deucealive75 I had a host of self inflicted errors, vacuum leak was one of them lol. I’m new to all of this so your input is definitely a huge help! Thank you!
Hey, how about the VM 22 knock offs that say Miki on it? Are those do those worth the same as this one. Also one more important question where do I get the Jets for it as far as the pilot goes I have jets for it, but I cannot find pilot jets for this carburetor. I looked all over Amazon everywhere and I can’t find it.
it is easy to find main jets ,but pilot jets are a different story . my only complaint about the vm22 clones ,is the pilot jets are a different styles and hard to find . i have 2 carbs both super rich at idle i have ordered jet kits online 2 times and the jets won`t fit
@@taddy656 I did this a couple months ago on a stock 196 and it worked well. Ran the best with a 120 main. You wouldn't want to use a stock 196 muffler. Get a header and muffler for it. I wasn't concerned about the internal governor running less than 5K RPM. I would pull it if I knew I was going to turn more than 6K RPM just to be safe.
I’m at 4500 feet elevation and mine bogs real bad I tried a lot of things like adjusting the needle clip and it’s will start and idle fine but bogs what would you recommend I do ? It’s a Vader 125cc
We have a Massimo MB200 with 196cc motor. Do we need the 130 jet? Is it possible to buy just the 130 jet? If not do you have a link for a jet kit with 130 jet?
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@@WildKardZ if that is the case the high rpm might be due to a vaccum leak or a rich jetting. Make sure the intake gasket is centered perfectly and tight. You also might need to play around with the setting on the needle. If it goes really high rpm when you pull throttle that could mean it’s too lean as well. It could also be the throttle isn’t fully closing when you let off the throttle
@@aerialenthusiast7435 I did my best with the intake gasket. Also would it make a difference if the manifold is smaller in diameter would it create a leak?
@@WildKardZ that could be a possibility, what engine are you working on? It could be not properly sealing if it is too small. Also the gasket in good condition or is it old and cracked?
@@dirty7739 i want to know normal temps yes my runleader tach shows 260 f maxdegrees i love your channel man i subscribed , whats the max temp at the plug
The 22 in the VM22 is not the size of the carb, it's the style of the carb. This is a 26mm carb and if you scroll down in the ad, it says it's a 26mm carb. Just to let everyone know, you need to have a fairly built motor to use these carbs and not a stock motor. My dad bought a VM22 kit like this one and he has basically a stock Predator 224 with a mod 1 cam and 22# springs and this carb was just to big for his motor. We couldn't get it tuned for motor and that's when we found out that it was a 26mm and not a 22. Bought a VM22 22mm card for his motor and it runs really good now.
You may have had something else going on for it not to work. Plenty of guys have used these Mikuni style carbs on stock engines. A few months ago RBG was using a dyno to test three of these carbs on a stock 212 with a header pipe. He may have had springs in it but it was still a stock engine.
This is very accurate. Every time I read. "It only runs in choke" I'm like, go kill yourself. I have a built 212, rod, cam, piston, shaved head. I run a 26 chink carb. I started with a 130 jet, went down to 115. Runs mint
how’d you tune it i have a chink 22 and a chink set of jets and i’ve tried from 88 jet to a 140 jet and none of them will let it idle without the choke on, maybe it’s my carb? idk
Excellent explanation of the air leaks!!!! Had a few guys tell me these exact carbs where cheap shit.... Yet my son's small Baja 196 rips with it. Your explanation of the jet sizing is gonna be a life saver!!! Cause I've been getting bogging at about half throttle. I'll swap the standard jet for a larger one. I'll report back once done
So far, my PWK is working pretty good. I have a 24mm on my mild built Ducar 212. The only issue I had, is the plastic cover that holds the cable in the slide and the needle in place, wasn't sitting all the way down, causing the needle to move. Once I figured out, that I have to press the plastic cover all the way down until it stops, it has nee a great carb. I put 20+ miles or more on my bike every nite and i don't have any issues now. I will buy one of these carbs, to see how it compares.
You’re 100% right about these carbs!!
Excellent video! Thanks
Thanks for the advice! Just put a 130 jet in, made the bike much faster.
Love these Chi'kunis.. I agree with your thoughts 100%. Thanks
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I'm about to do a first carb change. I'm going with the cheap Amazon one to replace the stock one on my Chinese bike. It's interesting to see all the details of possible problems when setting up.
Lol mine is coming in after my new nibbis float decided to stop the flow of fuel 😅
So I ordered that same one to arrive today as I wait on my nibbis replacement on Thursday.
One of the two is gonna be a back up carb =)
Yep that's the Lil Fulker it has showed me true improvement from. The stock carby
When I installed it I could not get the engine to start, but it did run with the stock carb. What I had to do was 1: the air mixture screw at the bottom was backed out 5 turns out of the box. I ran it down and backed it out 1 turn. 2: I did install a larger main jet as recommended for a 212 Predator. I could then start it but it would not run off choke and had a bad bog off idle. 3: This was the real problem that I found that the pilot jet was blocked solid. I could not see through it or get a wire through it. I had to use a #59 drill bit to clear the blockage. After that I could start the engine and get it to run off the choke.
Great vid dirt
big fan, keep it up
Good video fam 💯💪
Dude I got the same carb, it intakes to much air for the 196cc. I ran it on choke and my bike ran flawless without backfiring out the exhaust. Soon as I turn off the choke I get backfire out the exhaust from to much air. I’m in Michigan so I had to down my pilot jet. I might have to bump to a 30 though cause now I’m to lean as well. Rich or lean I still had backfire. I’m gonna check to see if it’s a vacuum leak
I got a 224 no gov, straight pipe and im up to a 140 main, 5th eclip position, still cuts in n out, no air keaks, sprayed the entire setup and no pickup so elimantes any leaks.....
Is there a spring in the throttle adjustments through I removed it and I think I lost the screw if there is one. Can you please help me with this?
So I lined up the seal as best I could. It does not line up as center as yours does for some reason idk. 🤷🏼♂️ gotta get her warmed up to operating temp and see if it’s still a vacuum leak. I’m convinced this carb just takes in to much air and that’s what’s causing my exhaust deceleration pop or backfire. Idk 🤷🏼♂️
What size main jet
Just ordered the 130 jets bc I was having the same running on choke problem! Thanks!
If you need choke to keep it idling a 130 main jet isn't going to help. Look for a vacuum leak like he said in the video. The main jet doesn't do anything below half throttle.
@@Deucealive75 I had a host of self inflicted errors, vacuum leak was one of them lol. I’m new to all of this so your input is definitely a huge help! Thank you!
@@SamSuleksSon69 NP. Hope you get it running good.
Red beard did a test and it did out perform the the others
Will do. Thanks
So I got the vm22 clone and switch the main jet to 125 and I got it to turn on it every time I turn the throttle it just dies on me or is boggy
How many turns air mixture screw and fuel and pilot I want to try ur tune
Can you post Amazon part #
Hey, how about the VM 22 knock offs that say Miki on it? Are those do those worth the same as this one. Also one more important question where do I get the Jets for it as far as the pilot goes I have jets for it, but I cannot find pilot jets for this carburetor. I looked all over Amazon everywhere and I can’t find it.
Those ones are hard to find jets for. The knock offs are easier and I think they're better.
what mods do you have on the 196? i’m in jersey and just picked one up and looking to get it up to 60 if possible as well
Check out my videos. The whole build series is in 2 parts.
my temp gauge is reading up to 260 degrees at plug seems very hot 212cc predator
That's normal
Yea can you add the link please
What size main jet do you recommend for stock 196cc with upgraded exhaust header and upgraded intake (cone filter) ? 120? 125?
If you're at sea level, try a 130.
Performance depends on rider weight.
it is easy to find main jets ,but pilot jets are a different story . my only complaint about the vm22 clones ,is the pilot jets are a different styles and hard to find . i have 2 carbs both super rich at idle i have ordered jet kits online 2 times and the jets won`t fit
Only place I have seen pilot jets that may fit is gopowersports.
Could a 125 work?
i got this on my stock i mean all stock 196cc and it’s rolling 45 with the 130 jet badass carb for $60
it also still has internal governor
@@taddy656 I did this a couple months ago on a stock 196 and it worked well. Ran the best with a 120 main. You wouldn't want to use a stock 196 muffler. Get a header and muffler for it.
I wasn't concerned about the internal governor running less than 5K RPM. I would pull it if I knew I was going to turn more than 6K RPM just to be safe.
I’m at 4500 feet elevation and mine bogs real bad I tried a lot of things like adjusting the needle clip and it’s will start and idle fine but bogs what would you recommend I do ? It’s a Vader 125cc
OTS POSSIBLE YOU ARE CHASING YOUR TAIL IT DEPENDS ON HOW YOU ARE ADJUSTING AND IT ALSO DEPEND ON YOUR JET SIZE AS WELL
I have a Honda gx200, just purchased this vm22, will this work with no mods on my Honda gx200
Yes
Great video. How do I connect the throttle cable?
Its gotta have the little nub on the end to work
Thank you!
We have a Massimo MB200 with 196cc motor. Do we need the 130 jet? Is it possible to buy just the 130 jet? If not do you have a link for a jet kit with 130 jet?
@dirtcvma I don't know how to share the links.Go on amazon and type in vm 22 jets You should have no problem finding them
Thank you. That worked.
Mine didn’t came with jets
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$30 is a good deal... well maybe
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Choke on or off up or down?
Up is choke
I bought one and it gave me problems of a high idle i used a 120 jet since i live lancaster PA how can i fix the high idle problem
Try adjusting the idle adjustment screw out
@@aerialenthusiast7435doesn’t work. Screw is almost out
@@WildKardZ if that is the case the high rpm might be due to a vaccum leak or a rich jetting. Make sure the intake gasket is centered perfectly and tight. You also might need to play around with the setting on the needle. If it goes really high rpm when you pull throttle that could mean it’s too lean as well. It could also be the throttle isn’t fully closing when you let off the throttle
@@aerialenthusiast7435 I did my best with the intake gasket. Also would it make a difference if the manifold is smaller in diameter would it create a leak?
@@WildKardZ that could be a possibility, what engine are you working on? It could be not properly sealing if it is too small. Also the gasket in good condition or is it old and cracked?
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I'm still alive. Just have time or anything to make a video about lol
I can make my own Gasket ?
Sure could
can anyone do a video on head temperature on these gx200 clones
What normal temps ?
@@dirty7739 i want to know normal temps yes my runleader tach shows 260 f maxdegrees i love your channel man i subscribed , whats the max temp at the plug
@@sandmhoder I ran over 300ﾟ before. I don't know if that's normal according to ARC You can run up to 400ﾟI don't know about that.
@@dirty7739thank you for the reply , do you not evenworry about temps ??
@@sandmhoder I took my temp gauge off cause it Was making me paranoid lol
The 22 in the VM22 is not the size of the carb, it's the style of the carb. This is a 26mm carb and if you scroll down in the ad, it says it's a 26mm carb. Just to let everyone know, you need to have a fairly built motor to use these carbs and not a stock motor. My dad bought a VM22 kit like this one and he has basically a stock Predator 224 with a mod 1 cam and 22# springs and this carb was just to big for his motor. We couldn't get it tuned for motor and that's when we found out that it was a 26mm and not a 22. Bought a VM22 22mm card for his motor and it runs really good now.
You may have had something else going on for it not to work. Plenty of guys have used these Mikuni style carbs on stock engines. A few months ago RBG was using a dyno to test three of these carbs on a stock 212 with a header pipe. He may have had springs in it but it was still a stock engine.
Definitely can throw these on stock carbs
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Thanks boss I got mine dialed in now its perfect 🫰
Great tuning how to video -
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This is very accurate. Every time I read. "It only runs in choke" I'm like, go kill yourself. I have a built 212, rod, cam, piston, shaved head. I run a 26 chink carb. I started with a 130 jet, went down to 115. Runs mint
It’s not that serious bro god damn
how’d you tune it i have a chink 22 and a chink set of jets and i’ve tried from 88 jet to a 140 jet and none of them will let it idle without the choke on, maybe it’s my carb? idk
why does it make you upset and you solved it by lowering jet size?