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I would rate the Elantra N a solid 9. It's incredibly fun to drive. No matter who drives it, they are always smiling. The value is unbeatable. No other car gives you this level of performance for the price. It literally comes track ready, you don't have to change a thing. And let's not forget that it offers a manual transmission. I see people crying all the time because the manuals are disappearing. Well here you go, an affordable fun to drive sports sedan with a manual transmission. Oh and I almost forgot, the exhaust sound is fantastic. Again you don't have to change a thing. But then is it really a surprise that the car is this good when you take into account its designed by Albert Bierman, the man who was the head of the BMW M division. Take care 🙂
Han in 2006 : "Red EVO is yours, What you think, I'm gonna let you roll in a Hyundai?" Han in 2022 : "Blue Elantra N is yours, What you think, I'm gonna let you roll in a Mitsubishi?"
I traded in my 2016 VW Golf R, 6sp MT, AWD with a stage 1 kit and carbon fiber hood for a 22' Elantra N DCT, Ceramic White (tired of slapping through gears). I haven't regretted my decision 1 time. This car is more fun than anything else in its category, period. Your review was kinda weird. I like cars, I'm not a brand snob. Turbo 4's are my jam though. In 2 yrs I may think that Honda is leading the pack, or VW, or f-in Nissan, who knows? But right now it's Hyundai and your honest review seemed 65% negative. I would say this car is 75% positive. I give it an honest 7.5 out of 10. Go around a curve in 'N' Mode with NGS on, start into the turn and smash the pedal to the floor.. you will wear a smile for the next 23 minutes.. my Golf made 60-70 more horse's than my EN, but I can't even tell with that DCT. You need to drive the car for a week, put 600 miles on it. I think you'll come back to this review in 4 yrs and say "whoops"...
I felt like this review was negative on purpose to get views and just stand out from everyone who actually talks positive about this car. Haven’t seen a single person commenting bad shit about the car at all. Cant wait til i get mine lil
Starts the video stating about how an enthusiast would think about the car and goes on to say how it may depreciate in value in the second hand market .
i bought mine for 34500 with the DCT. amazing and fun daily, obviously not the fastest thing in the world but for the price it is WAY faster then anything in its price range. 13.1 1/4 mile 4.6s 0-60 all with a 10 year 100k warranty. its the best enthusiast daily for under 35K
@@danielvilchez50 I mean pilot sport 4S and it weighs like 600 pounds less. The elantra is underrated on power too. 276 claimed crank but the DCT makes 285 wheel on a dyno
I own one. It’s SUPER fun, sounds amazing and feels like an absolute bargain. Plastic aside, I think the interior looks like it belongs in a more expensive car - the little touches like the ambient lighting decent materials where it counts make a big difference. It’s a nice place to be. Here in Australia we get some extras, like rear vents, ventilated seats, electric mirrors and front parking sensors which is nice. In regards to modification potential you are probably right, but the thing is I don’t feel the need to do anything to it. It feels like I bought a car with all the mods I want pre-installed and covered by warranty. I guess we’ll see how I feel in a few years.
I feel the same about my Veloster N. I did install rigid collars (sub frame bushings), stiffer rear motor mount bushings and of course a catch can. I have made a few minor appearance mods too.
I'm a salesperson at Hyundai and and agree with basically all your points but I did find it weird that you said Hyundai isn't focusing on the cool concept EVs and is focusing on the Kona and Elantra N vehicles. That actually couldn't be more opposite. The Elantra and Kona N are so good because they took great standard cars and added the incredible engine from the Veloster N, and adding those things together was basically a foolproof way to make an awesome car. That said, there was very little effort needed to do that, and now that they're out they won't focus on anything other than manufacturing for the next four years. Hyundai has been putting INSANE amounts of R&D into EVs in recent years. The Ioniq 5 just came out, the Ioniq 6 is dropping in 2023 and the Ioniq 7 is soon to follow, with rumors of a flagship Ioniq 9 coming through the grapevine. Pair that with the Nexo and the N Vision 74, two Hydrogen fuel cell vehicles and in two years time you'll have the company with the most alternative fuel options of the all. The N stuff is just a final hurrah of gas power before everything is forced to go Electric, Hybrid and Hydro in the next decade or so.
@@fredrikb343 Unfortunately nobody was buying them. And of course, when I say nobody it's relative. There were almost 8 times more orders for the Kona N than the Veloster N. And two times more Elantra N orders than Kona N orders. I agree it's sad that we're discontinuing the veloster line-up. Unfortunately right now automakers are already losing so much from the car shortage, and corporate determined we would benefit a lot more from discontinuing it, which frees up a huge amount of factory space and resources (materials, microchips, TIME) which can now be used to focus on faster production of the Ioniq lineup. It also means Elantra and Kona Ns can be pumped out faster as all three used effectively the same engine, supply of which now gets split in two instead of three. Plus who knows, if enough people miss the Veloster lineup, Hyundai may re-continue it with a re-designed veloster, or even start a new two-door hot hatch to move forward
I think you’re being a brand snob my man. You should be reviewing a car based on its merits and shortfalls not based on its brand. Maybe it’s a US thing. Hyundais are parallel with Japanese brands in terms of quality and performance currently. You talk about depreciation, they have far less depreciation from new than any of the euro brands (here in Australia anyway) I think we should all be appreciating that manufacturers are still making fun manual performance cars, they’re certainly making very little money out of them. I think this was a poor review as you seemed to negative from the outset and that just carried on throughout. For the record I don’t own one of these.
I totally agree idk why every reviewer is like “You wouldn’t be expecting that from a HYUNDAI” like bruh we didn’t came here for your opinion we want to know about the car
my friend just got his Elantra N and is having major QC issues so i don’t think he’s too far out of line. Appreciate what they’re doing but shouldn’t have 3,000 mile vehicles in limo mode from highway cruising
@@chuckie0returns that sucks, however no car company has zero issues with cars, take Toyota and the GR86 engine failures for example, Hyundais like Toyotas are generally renowned for being reliable.
I actually own and daily an Elantra N, with a manual. I love it. And I can say with 100% certainty that all your criticisms were… completely fair. It’s not a perfect car, but all the things some nitpick are things I don’t really care about, personally. Also the aftermarket is very much coming into its own. Seems like some company is releasing a new part for this thing every month or so. We have options for modding this platform.
@@AlexMartini. unfortunately your concern about the longevity of this platform is very much shared by me. I’m excited for Hyundais future, don’t get me wrong. But they’ve already killed the Veloster, Sonata, and Accent. I think the Elantra is next. I just hope it lasts long enough for the aftermarket to take off more so I don’t have to be shoehorned into doing the exact same rice “mods” that a lot of people are doing to this car.
I also own one … this review was pretty fair. In the video you didn’t really drive it… the canyons you referred too… well did you drive it on them? I think you would had been a little more excited about this car if you did
I have 7 months with my DCT Elantra N, everyday I enjoy more. Is not perfect but make you enjoyable and make you smile. I race Mustang Turbo, Camaro V8, BMW Z4 2008, motorcycles. Last week I go to my work, I race a motorcycle chopper, the man in the next light say me; that car is quick man. When you listen that things make you happy and smile. I have the opportunity to go to Cars & Coffees, you can listen the people say look Cool, is nice, beautiful, look great. Aftermarket performance parts, I fine somethings, the only thing I mod in my Elantra N is Monoblock ceramic brakes.
I saw one of these in the dealership and did a double take when I saw it had a manual. I'm not a fan of Kia/Hyundai/Gensis but kinda happy at least one car manufacturer is keeping fun cars alive. Edit: please do more of these reviews like this. They slap
Did you enjoy the style?! I know it’s a little longer but I really wanted to dabble into something that felt a little different ya know? Thank you so much for the kind words and I will 110% try to find another car to do this with!
Alex martini , Im thinking about getting this or either a forte Gt2 . Could you review this car as well and please be hard on it too . Loved the honesty
This is just good old fashioned fun. Things like this is what were so popular in the early 2000s. Neon SRT, Civic Si, Sentra SE-R, etc. This feels like the modern iteration of those kinds of cars.
@@dkeightsix1871 Reminds me of Mitsubishi with the EVO where most of the money when to the powertrain and whatever budget was left over was for the interior.
You're absolutely right! It does have some functional vents which is worth something. Regarding the fake vents on the Type R, I gave them just as much crap lol.
i’m glad you reviewed the Avante N. i see a lot of them here in Korea also they are quite cheap so you see a lot of young kids driving them and it’s always fun to see that.
That's awesome man, i bet lots of people drive all kinds of Hyundai's in Korea. Could you help me out? Can you give me a couple of Korean performance parts places that sell parts for Hyundai's and specially Elantra N? Thank you
First time watching a video of yours. I've owned a N for just over a week, - white with the DCT. You made a mistake. The front vents are functional with a slit opening to the wheel well. I do agree with the majority of the comments you made. As a past owner of cars from a 1977 Capri to 1979 Trans-AM to a 2019 Camry (with various SRT'S, Audi S's and others mixed in between) this car has such a great bang for the buck. Sure, it doesn't have the creature comforts we've grown accustomed to. No power seats for either front seat and no power steering wheel, no forward parking sensors, no wireless car play functions, etc. However, adding those features increases weight, decreases performance and pushes the price over $40K and into the realm of other cars with more cache. It definitely hits a niche area in the automotive world. Keep up the good analysis.
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There’s a good amount of aftermarket support in Korea if you can get them shipped. Already a wide body kit, carbon hoods, side skirts, spoilers specific for the Elantra. Sxth Element has a big turbo upgrade and a tune for them as well, shoutout to them they already shipped out my lower engine mount the next day!
the vents at the front are functional. Yes they have plastic cladding that extends further and isnt really functional bu that is true for most performance cars. Its a design choice. Great car and great value imo.
I know, thought it was weird he would say the vents arent functional and taps on a plastic piece and expects it to sound like something else. I mean Type R has so many vents patch that aren’t functional and has so many plastic parts but it’s got a reputation. This guy is a joke. And who smells a plastic and expects it to smell like soap and rose? Weird weird review
Solid review. My 1st car was on 99 elantra then a 03 tiburon gtv6 I bought in the summer of 02. Loved it. was young and drove it till it blew. now I have a 11 veloster turbo rspec with every upgrade I can get my stinky hands on. But you are right. I think both of those platforms are fantastic and could have been a staple of the company that has lived on for decades if they just kept with it. and now the elantra has somehow out lived them all. I know it boils down to numbers and almost all 2 doors are on their last leg but wish they would listent to the customers more vs sales dept to keep those great cars in the game. Props for shinning a little light for the KDM crowd.
Hyundai N is starting to get some good aftermarket options. SXTH element engineering (I believe that intake was SXTH’s) can get you to 400+ whp FBO. I have a buddy with a Veloster N who reached 417whp with FBO and a hybrid Kona N turbo swap.
I'd give the EN a 9 at it's price point (I cant stop grinning when I drive this car). And yes they basically said "f" you to the people in the back. Alex I think you need to take the car to a local track to see its full potential. Not too many cars you can take from a dealership to a local track "bone stock". And I don't know how those tires affect the ride... with the stock tires... acceleration and corners are a blast. I do agree that for the enthusiast it might lose some point for the exact reasons you pointed out... But looking at Hyundai's future designs and mentality... it seems like they are listening to what the people want... and I'd take that over, other manufacturers telling us what we should want.
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Im sorry man, you know I love the vids, but this review got me the wrong way (and no, I do not own a Hyundai of any sorts). Hyundai in Europe has been improving massively the last 20 years (and Kia that goes with it), with high reliability and quality of finish and materials in the EU models (i10/i20/i30 etc). This also means in Europe, these cars have been depreciating a lot less. And the N models have been appreciated greatly by Nürburgring drivers. Seeing these N cars, live, at the Nordschleife, they are very impressive, performance wise (bang for buck). And let's be honest, everything has fake vents nowadays. I fully agree with you that it should not be there, but to knock a car for it nowadays is unneccesary in my opinion. Also the noise when you hit it, that's common, BMW, Merc, Mini, Renault, VW, Chevy, Ford, Dodge, Nissan, everything makes that sound when you knock the bumper or the fake vents. The Uniroyal Tigerpaw I have never driven (though it being A/S it wprobably won't be all that). The Uniroyal Rainsport however is an excellent tyre for our climate and have been using it on my Calibra since 2003 (starting with the Rainsport 2). I do like the partitioning of the vid, and bonus points for the hat!
Hey, love the feedback on this and I love that you wrote out a comment. I think our geographical area can play a bit into this too because you mention EU and the i10. Hyundais entrance into the us market was met with massive depreciation and quality issues. While they grew in popularity they did through the means of cost savings and excellent leasing programs. Now they have gotten better, as all brands have, but what I am comparing this too is the VW’s, Subaru’s, and the Hondas of the same caliber and in which case there are some shortcomings. I think they’re making great improvements, but the car isn’t without its flaws. Thanks for sharing about the Nurburgring, didn’t know it was that popular there!
6 speed manual Veloster N is where its at. I'm super happy with mine ordering and waiting all winter for one sight unseen. Id def rate it a 9 outta 10 at least. Much preferred over EN. If I had kids maybe a different story tho
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Your number 3 reason to get one should have been the 10 year powertrain warranty... I'm shopping for my next daily currently. And that warranty is INSANE. Plus 3 year complimentary maintenance up to 36k miles... you get good bang for buck with this thing honestly. 36.1k out the door for the DSG. It's veryyy tempting lol
Wouldn’t that actually be a concern tho? I mean depending on the person, but if you plan on keeping it for longer it may be a red flag. Maybe that’s just me though
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I'm german, so we don't have the Elantra N, but we got the I30 N that has the same engine and transmission. It's a hatch that competes with a Golf GTI, and Audi S3 in its I30 N Fastback version. It's a massive hit, I30 N's are popular tuner cars now and its debut was in 2017. But europe is more of a hatch market than the US, so maybe it's not that surprising that the N caught wind.
I think you're underestimating the EN. I love the 8DCT. I get what you mean about sticking to things but N is the real deal and it's only going to get better. When you have the engineer from BMW M division designing your performance cars you gotta take it seriously. Check out SXTH Element Engineering. This is the beginning of a great car mod story. Face it! This is one of THE BEST sounding factory 4 cylinder turbos ever period. Tell what matches it?
seeing the N division take off like this makes me miss the Genesis Coupe platform even more. I could only imagine the insanity that would come with a Genesis Couple N model
Lost me a little when you said there is no real aftermarket for the N brand. SXTH and LAP3 are putting out some great products for the N brand from new downpipes, exhaust, ECU tunes, etc etc. Many N cars are running more than 400hp with no issues. The block is the same GEMA block co-developed with Nissan and Mitsubishi ... which also is the same core block as the 4B11 in the Evo X.
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I’m overall pretty impressed with Hyundais “ N “ cars, especially the Elantra. South Korea has definitely come a long way since making military barracks.
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@@AlexMartini. If they turn out to be somewhat reliable then i would give it a shot for sure; besides the looks the interior is nice for its class so thats a plus.
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@5:51 agreed, I REALLY liked the design on the 17-18 Elantra sport’s. Hyundai decided to redesign AGAIN with a more triangly design. Still feel some type of way of them killing off the Veloster N.
I own the DCT Elantra N, absolutely love it. You're pretty much spot on with everything you're adding in. You should kind of know those things going in but, I have to say the car has exceeded my expectations and every. You have to understand at this price point you're not going to get everything, but they definitely give you more than your money's worth. BTW, I've owned plenty of very nice cars. I didn't want that "very nice car payment". If you're on the fence about buying one of these cars, get off the fence and go buy one but make sure you get the DCT, the performance gap is significant. Otherwise, you just have another Turbo 4 cylinder with a manual transmission....
Id say the the biggest gap in performance is the launch. The DCT can get a much better launch. The shifting is also much quicker with hold boost in between shifts. Other than that the car is almost the same. Id say it would beat the MT by a rear bumper on a roll but from a dig i would say a car length. I need to test it soon
I’m not going to lie- it was hard to get through this video. Although it’s “honest” it felt so overly negative. First, there’s maybe 10 dealerships that are selling this at MSRP. My dealership in Vegas is selling at 47,000 out the door. These cars are selling for more used than brand new. In order to buy one (one you want in terms of color and transmission)you’re actually going to have to buy out of state (which Hyundais policy just changed to not allow this everywhere) or reserve one before they arrive to the lot. I have spent the last 72 hours calling every dealership in the country that claims they have one, or are having ones in transit. Knowing that alone, it’s pretty obvious that people WANT this car. It’s a unicorn car. I just felt so much bias coming from you. Sure the vents are fake- who cares it still looks great. It’s not like we’re reviewing a 60-80k plus car, I mean come on now. You’re reviewing a Hyundai. This car needs more praise. The numbers speak for the demand alone. You’re video should have focused on why people are willing to spend wayyy over to get their hands on this. I appreciate the content but I feel like you missed the point.
And here’s your 3 reasons for buying the N- 1. It’s a great blend of having a daily driver and performance 2. The interior alone is unmatched 3. Albert Biermann was behind the project. In terms of depreciation, I think the car will do just fine considering a used N line (not the N) are going for 30k😂🤡
You need to do more research on this vehicle and the N Division. Those are not fake vents. 😮 I agree with others here, you are trolling for views as this is one of the BEST CARS OUT PERIOD. No one mentioned Elantra and Motorsport before this one was built and it seems this would be the main rival for anyone considering the CTR
Not a huge N line fan as I like the Muscle Car variety but this video was awesome! Well done and earned my sub. Cant wait to check out some other videos of yours. Also @14:42 You said "hard on" and it made me giggle because I am also 7 LOL
Veloster N owner here. Modding community is lacking compared to its competitors, but I don't care. I have a fun and unique hot hatch that gets constant compliments and looks good thanks to some new Rotiforms from Fitment Industries 😎
Whatd you get for rotiforms? Those dope kb1s? 19 +45s? I have an ultra black 22 m/t VN. I literally just curbed my back passenger wheel today so pissed never done that before in my life smh. Ive been thinking of getting some of those but 29 pounds seems kinda heavy? Also debating 18 by 8.5 with some ps4s idk what to do
Everyone wants to compare this to a Civic Type 'R' but it really should be compared to the SI instead! I was just quoted $39,ooo+ change for an SI three days ago here in Georgia. (7% sales tax and a bunch of extra dealer charges) ... So how would you rate this in a manual vs the SI ???
Just got a manual N last week and for the money it’s easily the best car in its segment. It’s WAY better than Civic si and IMO 85% of a type r (had one and sold cause for what I paid for it just wasn’t worth it.)
Are you happy with your decision? I have a Type R now and I'm considering trading for an EN, probably DCT. I love the CTR but I'm in the same boat, bought mine a bit over MSRP and not sure it's worth it when I can get an EN for significantly cheaper with most of the performance. I also find the CTR is pretty stressful to own. How are the wheels/tires on the EN? Are they as damage prone as the 20 inch wheels on the CTR?
@@joecostmedia9403 Yeah no regrets man the car is just awesome. I switched out my type R wheels with some 17s because of the ride quality so I never had an issue with messing up my wheels. Elantra is just way more everyday friendly and much more premium feeling. Type R is a better “track” car I guess but that doesn’t matter to me.
@@joecostmedia9403 the ride is much softer than the Type R. I live in NYC and roads are pretty trash so it could be rough at times. And the seats are waaaaaay nicer. The bucket seats have the N that glow at night that such a nice touch.
@@xblfanatic360 Wow that's impressive! I've always thought the CTR rode well and was pretty comfortable, if the EN is better at both, plus all the customization at a better price, I'm probably sold on one. Thanks for the info! I appreciate it!
Aahhhhh, that pronunciation of “Tiburon” hurt 😢 anyway, great video! Definitely agree with what was said about the price-point and mod-ability. Sadly I don’t think this car can gain a cult following, but maybe if Hyundai keeps it around it’ll get some more attention?
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@13:17 definitely hear you on that. Mods I know of for Hyundai-Kias are Mostly tunes, w downpipes, and turbo upgrades. Hopefully there will be a bigger aftermarket, when popularity increases for KDM’s.
The unfortunate thing but this goes with many car companies is variants. The US EN does not have sunroof with the MT.... while in Canada they have MT plus Sunroof and additional colors. In Korea the EN does have rear vents, probably even has stop and go cruise control, and a functional 3rd button but after import it would be a much more expensive car so they do shave off here and there.
I run the little brother of elantra n I run the forte gt 1.6 t and holy cow I love it I never thought about selling it or nothing but great daily car amd sounds mean. Some of vents on front are functional
I love my Elantra N and I was one of those people who talk crap about Hyundai prior owner of wrx sti,wrx,civic si, Camry and many others is time to credit Hyundai for what they doing.
The reason real car enthusiasts don't review it and talk about slamming it is becase is not a car guy thing to destroy your car and make it drive worse
I ended up getting this over a 400z honestly it was SO worth it why wait another year when I can enjoy this now and still get it to 400hp with a sturdier suspension setup and better exhaust off the lot got dayum its fun :) still cant bang the I4 yet because I only have a couple hundred miles on it lmao.
Well think about it this way , there is only 3 Manual sedans on the market , VW Jetta GLI, Elantra N , and Honda SI/Acura Integra.... and if you can close your eyes to cheap plastic the N is the best car among them... Fun , Power and for sure as overall package without extra extras.
As much as some enthusiast will complain about FWD platforms, they are the only ones left that are truly affordable, relative to their AWD/RWD bretheren. Nothing wrong with starting out with a FWD platform. Yes, you can’t do drifts and skids, but most people can’t do that legally/safely anyway. There are more ways to have fun than skids/drifts. Don’t let people deter you away from enjoying a well done FWD platform.
had to wait 3 months but i got my performance blue EN DCT for $29,500 USD. For a brand new car at that price in todays market there is literally no other car that can compete. BTW i sold my e92 m3 competition manual for one of these.
…If you can find one and have a dealer stay close to msrp. Trying to find a manual 6, even harder. Well thrown together, cheapo fun car that I cannot help wanting badly. And I’m 53yrs old. Go figure.
Kia Amanti -Mercedes E class Hyundai Genesis Coupe -Infiniti G37 Coupe Kia K9 -BMW 5 series GT Kia Optima -Ford Fusion Hyundai Sonata -Subaru Legacy Genesis G90 -Bentley Kia Elantra N - Toyota Corolla GR ( Lincoln MKZ rear )
Coming from someone who owns a Hyundai Genesis 2016 3.8 V6 with the round 348 horsepower and 320 torque. Naturally aspirated however I'm not here to flex or hate! It's quiet impressive let alone the exterior designing interior I would rate at 8 out of 10. When it comes to performance on a 2.0 plus the exhaust the cool little features that you find on a Porsche or Audi! If you have the budget I would definitely go for one. If you live in California be warned cops will humbly send you to the state ref because they're being messed up about The cars exhaust passes 96 db in N mode boom boom Pop crackless sound effects! If you do buy it please don't be pulled over driving in N mode October 16th of 2022 they made it illegal in California to be operating any vehicle that is not on drive it's b******* but hey 😂. See even the cops wish they had this car! I say the Hyundai Elantra N! Is well worth the value. Hope for the upcoming N to see a V6 o baby in that light weight car! Yes sir! I test driven one and honestly you don't need a salesman to Jedi mind trick you into buying one XD. ✌️
I really liked the editing on the intro. I'm on the same page with Alex on this one. A GTI, WRX, Civic SI those cars/badges have legacy/meaning and staying power. I'm silly in that the badge and the legacy mean some thing to me. Any of those cars that I mentioned conjure up emotions and thoughts of what that badge means. When you get into a GTI you know what to expect. It'll be a comfy family hauler when need be and capable canyon carver when asked. The WRX is an AWD beast that is more brawn than comfort, and will let you push your car/skills to limit, A Civic SI is screaming pocket rocket that won't break the bank or break down. If Hyundai wants to get to that level then they need to keep this trim level around and keep evolving it to mean something. It can't just be another sporty sedan, it needs to have an identity. Automotive history is littered with cars that have ton of performance, but didn't have a identity. Hyundai didn't do the N line any favors by canning the Veloster. It cheapens the N line by making it disposable. Dodge did the same thing with the SRT badge for a while. Chevy did it with the SS badge back in the day. Ford is currently doing it with the ST badge here in the US. If the N line has a chance to hang around and carve out a meaningful following it might reach the same level as some of the other more revered marques in the industry.
I totally disagree, but then again in Europe, Hyndai has a lot more presence (and models). Also the amount of N's on the actual Nürburgring is getting more and more (they have a development center 'Ringside). So for us the N already has meaning.
@@Mirage8v I don't know how Hyundai entered the European market, but here in the US we got decades of substandard compact cars. It's hard to overcome that history. I'd say it's only been the last 7-10 years that Hyundai started making cars that weren't thought of as budget/cheap cars. Even today Hyundai is in a class action lawsuit for their cars spontaneously catching fire. Let me ask you this. When someone mentions the Elantra N what does it mean? Do you know exactly what type of experience you can expect out of it? For me it's just a black hole. I have alot of experience with GTIs. So I know what to expect. However I've never owned a WRX or Civic SI and I still have an expectation of what that car should provide as an experience.
@@brandons9138 They entered the market here, the same way the Japanese did. 15 years before them. Uninspiring cheap cars that were very reliable. For us Europeans though, we see US cars as sub-par in quality and reliability. Even just plain boring apart from the odd muscle car/sportscar. So it works different on different continents. When someone mentions a Hyundai N to me, I think of the Ring, and decent sporty models for a good price, that can easily compete with Megane RS's and GTI's. Then again, when someone mentions Civic Type R I am amazed at the tech, not the quality of the vehicle. When someone says STI I think of a rally legend and vaping ;) . When someone mentions GTI I think of a has been that's living on past glory and becomes softer every generation. It seems to all be in context with what you are used to in your part of the world. And no, I do not own a Hyundai (or Kia). Yet do own a French, a German and an American car.
@@Mirage8v Absolutely. Context is everything. You European folk get sportier models on a more frequent basis than we do here in the US. Don't get me wrong I think the Elantra N is a good step in the right direction for Hyundai. They just have to be careful not to dilute the N badge by putting it in anything and everything. That is the kiss of death for a performance marque.
@@brandons9138 if you’ve got an N car, it’s a car that’s already ready for the track. Hyundai has made it clear that their goal is to make the N brand for driving enthusiasts who value fun. It’s not meant to be a lap killer, like the Type R, or an all weather beast like the WRX. When I hear N, I think of a great driving car. It provides all the gadgets you’d want for track work, and even provides a nice exhaust note.
As an Elantra n owner I can give u more than 2 reasons to get one. 1 it’s the best bang for ur buck. 2 it’s good on mpg if u want it to. 3 in terms of performance its actually fast I’ve beaten cars I think it shouldn’t beat suck as a 370z. 4 they refined the motor since it was in the genesis 2.0t. 5 it’s one of the best cornering cars that I’ve driven ( 2018 370z ,2016 mustang, 2017 camero, 2019 type r, 2015 c63, 2009 genesis 3.8 and 2016 focus st) and for 6 the exhaust note. Your being a little to rough on the car ur judging Hyundai and not really the car itself cause it has magna ride a rear chassis brace factory made big breaks and an active exhaust. None of that was mentioned. Especially with modding these out lap3 did a down pipe wet injection and a tune and got it to 500whp and these r reliable numbers. I like ur reviews and I’ve followed u since fi but this one feels more like an attack on the car since Hyundai made it. Also hyundai got a guy from bmw that was a m engineer so these cars have more in them that what people think suck as factory remapping that will push the car to 20psi in the turbo giving you even more power for dollar.
Well Hyundai is the fifth largest automaker in the world and I understand the evolution and popularity in other bands. But evolving these days is much more rapid. We can’t be stuck in the OG days anymore if you wanna get to the top of your game. That’s why Hyundai is investing in itself and right off the bat hired three BMW chassis engineers to create a race winning fun to drive vehicle like the N lines and N. Don’t forget what N stands for Nürnberg Ring where Hyundai’s now engineers are honing the N to be not only civil in the daily grind but also with few modifications, a track weapon. 🏎️🏎️🏎️
Great Video, I'm currently awaiting my EN to arrive, so any time there's a new review, I'm all over it. Your criticism of the EN is understood, however, I'm a "Bang for Buck" type of customer unwilling to pay more for the perceived value of more notable brands. I'm curious to know why the ridiculously good Standard warranty for these cars was not mentioned as a Pro, is it assumed that all car enthusiast must modify their car immediately and void the warranty? In my opinion, the North American EN ranks 8/10... Hyundai definitely left some meat on the bone by not including AWD & serving North America with such a stripped-down version, South Korea, and other markets have Upgraded Seats (optional), rear Vents, and Moon roofs as an option for both DCT and 6MT. Sure, it would be $40k, but still worth it.
Same here. I watcheed multiple reviews on every sports car out there under 50-55k and even tho i could go woth m240i i decided i rsther save up couple hundreds a month and get EN. It comes with everything u need and more. I just wanted a quick car with potential to modify. And fucking EN comes with almost all the modifications u need lol. Sports seat(heated was big thing why i went en and not veloster), adaptive suspension wooot at 35k ?? Digital cluster. I said. “Yes pls”. This thing seems to be better than everything else that is out there at this price range. Mine should arrive by the end of this month. Cant wait man. Im so exited
It has potential to be a decent build just like any other car, I think we’ll all see at least 1 at a car meet or they could completely takeover the car scene like the g35’s did
@@AlexMartini. the starting price, they’re so cheap and those exhaust notes plus the manuals? I think it does had potential if not now in a couple years when they are passed down to the second owners
You do make a good point better to see if the car will be supported long term. Better not to buy one right off the bat even though it does seem like a good ass deal
Remember, Hondas, Toyotas & Nissans were shit when they came to the states. As far as depreciation it all depends on how long one plans on keeping it (get gap insurance). I hate fake vents too, but even the Germans do them. I own a Stinger and love it! I think it’s time for folks to quit bagging on Kia/Hyundai products. They’ve come a long way in a short time.
I appreciate the fact that you were a little harsher on it. A lot of people really enjoy the car and praise it any chance they get. As somebody who plans on buying one in the near future because I want a fun daily that I won’t modify much, I appreciate the different perspective.
One of the biggest problems with Hyundai is that it doesn't have any kind of pedigree or reputation with the N badge in Motorsport or in the car community. The Veloster N already proved to be a better all around car than any ST, GTI, Si, and bites at the heels of the Type R, but the lack of history and "respect" as a solid contender comes from the fact that they're hard to trust. You're also absolutely correct in that Hyundai doesn't get a fair chance to make any name for themselves since they kill off all of their good cars too early (rip Veloster N and Genesis Coupe)
Agree wit you man..They make good cars but replace them a few years after (way to soon as you said bout 2-3 years ) and you have your version of a Kia/Hyundai and its sorta like from your friends " Yeahhhh they dont make that car anymore dude, here is there new one"
I own a Veloster N and I'm kinda bummed that instead of improving that car, they took everything they learned and put it into the Kona and Elantra for the 2022 model year.
I’d love to hear your opinion on a Veloster N, it might not seem like much over here but it was critically important to the Korean car culture as a whole. The aftermarket might seem small but the cool thing about the VeloN, Elantra N, and Kona N, is that a lot of their aftermarket is interchangeable. The only issue with this is outside of Korea you’ve got like 3 brands that make everything and they can charge whatever they want. This ends up with an aftermarket that isn’t crazy but it one thousand dollars you to death. When the Veloster N was introduced it was built to be the cheapest car you can buy at a dealership and drive straight to a track. Every ounce of the price was put into powertrain and suspension, this left the car with a very raw feel. There was no blind spot monitoring, no auto braking, no lane keep assist, and when you turned that TCS button off it was off. This is my own speculation but I remember people complained a lot about the comfort and quality of the VeloN and they tried to resolve this a bit by bringing those features into it and adding a DCT but I think ultimately this is what lead to the Elantra and Kona N. Both being way nicer but also feeling less raw and purpose built. The Veloster N also came at a critical time for Korea’s car scene, right around when it was released laws on car modification in Korea were becoming more relaxed. This sparked a fire with new Korean tuner shops popping up to capitalize on the new found interest in Motorsport, many focusing on circuit racing and time trials. This includes brands like Lap3 tuning and High Performance Kr. There are even plenty of smaller shops that make bespoke parts for these cars, but many of these shops don’t have a strong internet presence so it takes some digging to find them. All in all it reminds me of how the JDM market was in the 90s and I think maybe in a few years bespoke KDM parts importation is going to be a big thing.
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I'd say a solid 3
9.5
@@ramonbriones4487 The rating is out of 10, not three.
I would rate the Elantra N a solid 9. It's incredibly fun to drive. No matter who drives it, they are always smiling. The value is unbeatable. No other car gives you this level of performance for the price. It literally comes track ready, you don't have to change a thing. And let's not forget that it offers a manual transmission. I see people crying all the time because the manuals are disappearing. Well here you go, an affordable fun to drive sports sedan with a manual transmission. Oh and I almost forgot, the exhaust sound is fantastic. Again you don't have to change a thing. But then is it really a surprise that the car is this good when you take into account its designed by Albert Bierman, the man who was the head of the BMW M division. Take care 🙂
@@f1colaforyou she sure is :) and I was generous
Han in 2006 : "Red EVO is yours, What you think, I'm gonna let you roll in a Hyundai?"
Han in 2022 : "Blue Elantra N is yours, What you think, I'm gonna let you roll in a Mitsubishi?"
😀
Mitsubishi Eclipse Crossover Baybee!
My oh my have the turn tables tied.
That's FUNNY
Well well well, how the turntables.
I traded in my 2016 VW Golf R, 6sp MT, AWD with a stage 1 kit and carbon fiber hood for a 22' Elantra N DCT, Ceramic White (tired of slapping through gears). I haven't regretted my decision 1 time. This car is more fun than anything else in its category, period. Your review was kinda weird. I like cars, I'm not a brand snob. Turbo 4's are my jam though. In 2 yrs I may think that Honda is leading the pack, or VW, or f-in Nissan, who knows? But right now it's Hyundai and your honest review seemed 65% negative. I would say this car is 75% positive. I give it an honest 7.5 out of 10. Go around a curve in 'N' Mode with NGS on, start into the turn and smash the pedal to the floor.. you will wear a smile for the next 23 minutes.. my Golf made 60-70 more horse's than my EN, but I can't even tell with that DCT. You need to drive the car for a week, put 600 miles on it. I think you'll come back to this review in 4 yrs and say "whoops"...
I felt like this review was negative on purpose to get views and just stand out from everyone who actually talks positive about this car. Haven’t seen a single person commenting bad shit about the car at all. Cant wait til i get mine lil
Starts the video stating about how an enthusiast would think about the car and goes on to say how it may depreciate in value in the second hand market .
I have the same exact car and second everything you said!!
@Jamie L 🤣🤣 what a coincidence. Both good cars, looks like you have good taste! Lol
@@nechavataco191 lol same!!
i bought mine for 34500 with the DCT. amazing and fun daily, obviously not the fastest thing in the world but for the price it is WAY faster then anything in its price range.
13.1 1/4 mile 4.6s 0-60 all with a 10 year 100k warranty. its the best enthusiast daily for under 35K
Nailed it!!
4.6 0-60??? I think you ran that on a downhill bro XD
Yeah 4.6? That’s faster than a Stinger GT. Seems off. Not saying it’s not possible, but seems off lol
@@danielvilchez50 I mean pilot sport 4S and it weighs like 600 pounds less. The elantra is underrated on power too. 276 claimed crank but the DCT makes 285 wheel on a dyno
@@danielvilchez50 ruclips.net/video/bZpDW2BIg84/видео.html&ab_channel=BoostLife
um. 4.63 without rollout!!
I own one. It’s SUPER fun, sounds amazing and feels like an absolute bargain. Plastic aside, I think the interior looks like it belongs in a more expensive car - the little touches like the ambient lighting decent materials where it counts make a big difference. It’s a nice place to be. Here in Australia we get some extras, like rear vents, ventilated seats, electric mirrors and front parking sensors which is nice.
In regards to modification potential you are probably right, but the thing is I don’t feel the need to do anything to it. It feels like I bought a car with all the mods I want pre-installed and covered by warranty. I guess we’ll see how I feel in a few years.
I feel the same about my Veloster N. I did install rigid collars (sub frame bushings), stiffer rear motor mount bushings and of course a catch can. I have made a few minor appearance mods too.
I hate that we don’t get those extra features in NA. lol You lucky bastards.
Yeah I wish we got ventilated seats here in USA! I get a smile every day is time to drive now.
He didn’t touch on the plastic on the German and Japanese competitors though 😂😮💨. They’re all filled with it 🗑
does it have cruise control?
I'm a salesperson at Hyundai and and agree with basically all your points but I did find it weird that you said Hyundai isn't focusing on the cool concept EVs and is focusing on the Kona and Elantra N vehicles. That actually couldn't be more opposite. The Elantra and Kona N are so good because they took great standard cars and added the incredible engine from the Veloster N, and adding those things together was basically a foolproof way to make an awesome car. That said, there was very little effort needed to do that, and now that they're out they won't focus on anything other than manufacturing for the next four years.
Hyundai has been putting INSANE amounts of R&D into EVs in recent years. The Ioniq 5 just came out, the Ioniq 6 is dropping in 2023 and the Ioniq 7 is soon to follow, with rumors of a flagship Ioniq 9 coming through the grapevine. Pair that with the Nexo and the N Vision 74, two Hydrogen fuel cell vehicles and in two years time you'll have the company with the most alternative fuel options of the all. The N stuff is just a final hurrah of gas power before everything is forced to go Electric, Hybrid and Hydro in the next decade or so.
Why did they discontinue the veloster n , such a beast n car , I feel it's underappreciated , we can't even get it in Australia sadly
@@fredrikb343 Unfortunately nobody was buying them. And of course, when I say nobody it's relative. There were almost 8 times more orders for the Kona N than the Veloster N. And two times more Elantra N orders than Kona N orders.
I agree it's sad that we're discontinuing the veloster line-up. Unfortunately right now automakers are already losing so much from the car shortage, and corporate determined we would benefit a lot more from discontinuing it, which frees up a huge amount of factory space and resources (materials, microchips, TIME) which can now be used to focus on faster production of the Ioniq lineup. It also means Elantra and Kona Ns can be pumped out faster as all three used effectively the same engine, supply of which now gets split in two instead of three. Plus who knows, if enough people miss the Veloster lineup, Hyundai may re-continue it with a re-designed veloster, or even start a new two-door hot hatch to move forward
Because it was ugly and not practical!
Hydro?
@@Mirsab hydrogen fuel cell vehicles...
I think you’re being a brand snob my man. You should be reviewing a car based on its merits and shortfalls not based on its brand. Maybe it’s a US thing. Hyundais are parallel with Japanese brands in terms of quality and performance currently. You talk about depreciation, they have far less depreciation from new than any of the euro brands (here in Australia anyway) I think we should all be appreciating that manufacturers are still making fun manual performance cars, they’re certainly making very little money out of them. I think this was a poor review as you seemed to negative from the outset and that just carried on throughout. For the record I don’t own one of these.
I totally agree idk why every reviewer is like “You wouldn’t be expecting that from a HYUNDAI” like bruh we didn’t came here for your opinion we want to know about the car
After reading this don’t even gotta watch the video now
my friend just got his Elantra N and is having major QC issues so i don’t think he’s too far out of line. Appreciate what they’re doing but shouldn’t have 3,000 mile vehicles in limo mode from highway cruising
@@chuckie0returns that sucks, however no car company has zero issues with cars, take Toyota and the GR86 engine failures for example, Hyundais like Toyotas are generally renowned for being reliable.
Well said Ryan! Completely agree
Came here, read the comment and decided not to even bother watching the video!
I actually own and daily an Elantra N, with a manual. I love it. And I can say with 100% certainty that all your criticisms were… completely fair. It’s not a perfect car, but all the things some nitpick are things I don’t really care about, personally.
Also the aftermarket is very much coming into its own. Seems like some company is releasing a new part for this thing every month or so. We have options for modding this platform.
I’m excited to man. I’m cautiously optimistic and hopeful we will see Hyundai lock in this new idea for a few years. Appreciate the comment!
@@AlexMartini. unfortunately your concern about the longevity of this platform is very much shared by me. I’m excited for Hyundais future, don’t get me wrong. But they’ve already killed the Veloster, Sonata, and Accent. I think the Elantra is next. I just hope it lasts long enough for the aftermarket to take off more so I don’t have to be shoehorned into doing the exact same rice “mods” that a lot of people are doing to this car.
@@KronosX3T Sad Veloster noises
- Veloster N owner
I also own one … this review was pretty fair. In the video you didn’t really drive it… the canyons you referred too… well did you drive it on them? I think you would had been a little more excited about this car if you did
I have 7 months with my DCT Elantra N, everyday I enjoy more. Is not perfect but make you enjoyable and make you smile. I race Mustang Turbo, Camaro V8, BMW Z4 2008, motorcycles. Last week I go to my work, I race a motorcycle chopper, the man in the next light say me; that car is quick man. When you listen that things make you happy and smile. I have the opportunity to go to Cars & Coffees, you can listen the people say look Cool, is nice, beautiful, look great. Aftermarket performance parts, I fine somethings, the only thing I mod in my Elantra N is Monoblock ceramic brakes.
I saw one of these in the dealership and did a double take when I saw it had a manual.
I'm not a fan of Kia/Hyundai/Gensis but kinda happy at least one car manufacturer is keeping fun cars alive.
Edit: please do more of these reviews like this. They slap
Did you enjoy the style?! I know it’s a little longer but I really wanted to dabble into something that felt a little different ya know? Thank you so much for the kind words and I will 110% try to find another car to do this with!
I became a fan with my Genesis Coupe. It was the most trouble-free car I ever owned. I am 63 so I have been through a few cars...
Alex martini , Im thinking about getting this or either a forte Gt2 . Could you review this car as well and please be hard on it too . Loved the honesty
Ayo I'm actually super stoked to hear someone actually talks about the possibilities of modifying new cars
I’m trying to give a more unique take on reviews so let me know what you think of this but I appreciate the compliment!
This is just good old fashioned fun. Things like this is what were so popular in the early 2000s. Neon SRT, Civic Si, Sentra SE-R, etc. This feels like the modern iteration of those kinds of cars.
That's a fair statement!
The vents on the front side are functional helping cool the brakes, gotta give them some credit. Not all of it is fake.
Honda puts fake vents on the Type R, no one bats a eye.
Hyundai puts fake vents on their N line and everyone looses their minds
Agreed! You have to give them some credit for making fun for 35k
@@dkeightsix1871 Reminds me of Mitsubishi with the EVO where most of the money when to the powertrain and whatever budget was left over was for the interior.
You're absolutely right! It does have some functional vents which is worth something. Regarding the fake vents on the Type R, I gave them just as much crap lol.
i’m glad you reviewed the Avante N. i see a lot of them here in Korea also they are quite cheap so you see a lot of young kids driving them and it’s always fun to see that.
They are definitely a fun car man, hope you enjoyed the video!
@@AlexMartini. yea the review was great! kdm deserves more recognition. please do more kdm👍
Is there any difference between the Avante N and the overseas Elantra N?
That's awesome man, i bet lots of people drive all kinds of Hyundai's in Korea.
Could you help me out?
Can you give me a couple of Korean performance parts places that sell parts for Hyundai's and specially Elantra N? Thank you
They are notbthe cheap at all in the us. They dealers raised the prices too much
First time watching a video of yours. I've owned a N for just over a week, - white with the DCT. You made a mistake. The front vents are functional with a slit opening to the wheel well. I do agree with the majority of the comments you made. As a past owner of cars from a 1977 Capri to 1979 Trans-AM to a 2019 Camry (with various SRT'S, Audi S's and others mixed in between) this car has such a great bang for the buck. Sure, it doesn't have the creature comforts we've grown accustomed to. No power seats for either front seat and no power steering wheel, no forward parking sensors, no wireless car play functions, etc. However, adding those features increases weight, decreases performance and pushes the price over $40K and into the realm of other cars with more cache. It definitely hits a niche area in the automotive world. Keep up the good analysis.
Enthusiast aimed car reviews are something the interwebz needs more of. Thank you!
You're welcome! Let me know what you want me to review next!
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There’s a good amount of aftermarket support in Korea if you can get them shipped. Already a wide body kit, carbon hoods, side skirts, spoilers specific for the Elantra.
Sxth Element has a big turbo upgrade and a tune for them as well, shoutout to them they already shipped out my lower engine mount the next day!
The front vents are functional. This car is a blast to drive. It is a proper sports car.
i am really excited for what hyundai is becoming
I’m excited too! I just hope they stay with it for more than a couple years so it can dig some roots! PS. Thanks for the comment :)
Thanks Alex. This was a great show. I would love to see more reviews of new, reasonably priced, "enthusiast" cars.
the vents at the front are functional. Yes they have plastic cladding that extends further and isnt really functional bu that is true for most performance cars. Its a design choice. Great car and great value imo.
I know, thought it was weird he would say the vents arent functional and taps on a plastic piece and expects it to sound like something else. I mean Type R has so many vents patch that aren’t functional and has so many plastic parts but it’s got a reputation. This guy is a joke. And who smells a plastic and expects it to smell like soap and rose? Weird weird review
Solid review. My 1st car was on 99 elantra then a 03 tiburon gtv6 I bought in the summer of 02. Loved it. was young and drove it till it blew. now I have a 11 veloster turbo rspec with every upgrade I can get my stinky hands on. But you are right. I think both of those platforms are fantastic and could have been a staple of the company that has lived on for decades if they just kept with it. and now the elantra has somehow out lived them all. I know it boils down to numbers and almost all 2 doors are on their last leg but wish they would listent to the customers more vs sales dept to keep those great cars in the game. Props for shinning a little light for the KDM crowd.
You be man! I love what the kdm crowd stands for and what it’s doing but I also want to give unbias feedback on my experience with it
Hyundai N is starting to get some good aftermarket options. SXTH element engineering (I believe that intake was SXTH’s) can get you to 400+ whp FBO. I have a buddy with a Veloster N who reached 417whp with FBO and a hybrid Kona N turbo swap.
Ok now I’m interested! I wanna see this car and drive it! I can’t imagine how the elsd handles that
@@AlexMartini. Well he recently turned up the boost until it threw a rod so he can build a motor. No one will be driving it anytime soon.
I'd give the EN a 9 at it's price point (I cant stop grinning when I drive this car). And yes they basically said "f" you to the people in the back. Alex I think you need to take the car to a local track to see its full potential. Not too many cars you can take from a dealership to a local track "bone stock". And I don't know how those tires affect the ride... with the stock tires... acceleration and corners are a blast. I do agree that for the enthusiast it might lose some point for the exact reasons you pointed out... But looking at Hyundai's future designs and mentality... it seems like they are listening to what the people want... and I'd take that over, other manufacturers telling us what we should want.
I want to do that. I'll find one and if I can get it on a track I PROMISE to do another review; deal?
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Im sorry man, you know I love the vids, but this review got me the wrong way (and no, I do not own a Hyundai of any sorts).
Hyundai in Europe has been improving massively the last 20 years (and Kia that goes with it), with high reliability and quality of finish and materials in the EU models (i10/i20/i30 etc).
This also means in Europe, these cars have been depreciating a lot less. And the N models have been appreciated greatly by Nürburgring drivers.
Seeing these N cars, live, at the Nordschleife, they are very impressive, performance wise (bang for buck).
And let's be honest, everything has fake vents nowadays. I fully agree with you that it should not be there, but to knock a car for it nowadays is unneccesary in my opinion. Also the noise when you hit it, that's common, BMW, Merc, Mini, Renault, VW, Chevy, Ford, Dodge, Nissan, everything makes that sound when you knock the bumper or the fake vents.
The Uniroyal Tigerpaw I have never driven (though it being A/S it wprobably won't be all that). The Uniroyal Rainsport however is an excellent tyre for our climate and have been using it on my Calibra since 2003 (starting with the Rainsport 2).
I do like the partitioning of the vid, and bonus points for the hat!
Hey, love the feedback on this and I love that you wrote out a comment. I think our geographical area can play a bit into this too because you mention EU and the i10. Hyundais entrance into the us market was met with massive depreciation and quality issues. While they grew in popularity they did through the means of cost savings and excellent leasing programs. Now they have gotten better, as all brands have, but what I am comparing this too is the VW’s, Subaru’s, and the Hondas of the same caliber and in which case there are some shortcomings.
I think they’re making great improvements, but the car isn’t without its flaws. Thanks for sharing about the Nurburgring, didn’t know it was that popular there!
Always a pleasure to see someone already biased towards Hyundai reviewing a Hyundai to show you that age doesn't matter when it comes to immaturity
Um.. the vents in front of the front wheels are functional, allowing air to cool the front wheels.
Correct. I'm talking about the other 75% of the section not having that.
6 speed manual Veloster N is where its at. I'm super happy with mine ordering and waiting all winter for one sight unseen. Id def rate it a 9 outta 10 at least. Much preferred over EN. If I had kids maybe a different story tho
Love it. Thanks for the response and I’m glad you enjoy it. It is definitely a fun car!
Good thing you got your order in before the stopped production. They are killing the Veloster line in the US. I'm not sure about the global market.
Except that the VN has the worst interior of the N cars by far, and a smaller turbo lol
@@jeromeo23 Easily the best looking of the three though. The front face is amazingly designed. The EN is flat out kind of ugly.
@@thefives7ar that's completely subjective
The amount of detail that you provide in these videos is incredible. Hats off 🧢. Someone once told me “if you can nail every detail, you’ll have a big picture” and you my friend have a big picture 🖼
Thanks homie! I appreciate it and the support! Trying to touch on everything needed so people can make an informed decision.
It's a very biased opinion from a Hyundai hater 😂
Your videography and editing is super top notch. Even with blacked out windows. Ha ha ha! Keep it up man!
Thanks brotha!
Not all the vents are fake.
You're right!
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Your number 3 reason to get one should have been the 10 year powertrain warranty... I'm shopping for my next daily currently. And that warranty is INSANE. Plus 3 year complimentary maintenance up to 36k miles... you get good bang for buck with this thing honestly. 36.1k out the door for the DSG. It's veryyy tempting lol
Wouldn’t that actually be a concern tho? I mean depending on the person, but if you plan on keeping it for longer it may be a red flag. Maybe that’s just me though
They don't always honor the warranty, especially if it's costly
people can say what ever they want . but thanks to this car im never late to work. never means never :)
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I'm german, so we don't have the Elantra N, but we got the I30 N that has the same engine and transmission. It's a hatch that competes with a Golf GTI, and Audi S3 in its I30 N Fastback version.
It's a massive hit, I30 N's are popular tuner cars now and its debut was in 2017.
But europe is more of a hatch market than the US, so maybe it's not that surprising that the N caught wind.
I think you're underestimating the EN. I love the 8DCT. I get what you mean about sticking to things but N is the real deal and it's only going to get better. When you have the engineer from BMW M division designing your performance cars you gotta take it seriously. Check out SXTH Element Engineering. This is the beginning of a great car mod story. Face it! This is one of THE BEST sounding factory 4 cylinder turbos ever period. Tell what matches it?
The vents on the sides of the bumper are real, they cool the brakes.
The writing and the editing is on point as always. Fun to watch, very informative, and plenty of lulz
"Look like a polygon from Doom!" 😭😂
also SXTH element already sell big turbo kits and a bunch of bolt ons. a new type R is going for about 60-70K right now btw
That was a really fun video with some clever production!
seeing the N division take off like this makes me miss the Genesis Coupe platform even more. I could only imagine the insanity that would come with a Genesis Couple N model
No one has mentioned that the indentation on the door is the hyundai symbol.
Lost me a little when you said there is no real aftermarket for the N brand. SXTH and LAP3 are putting out some great products for the N brand from new downpipes, exhaust, ECU tunes, etc etc. Many N cars are running more than 400hp with no issues.
The block is the same GEMA block co-developed with Nissan and Mitsubishi ... which also is the same core block as the 4B11 in the Evo X.
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I’m overall pretty impressed with Hyundais “ N “ cars, especially the Elantra.
South Korea has definitely come a long way since making military barracks.
I like the looks on it, definitely gives an idea of what the future of sport sedans would look like.
That's cool! Would you own one?
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@@AlexMartini. If they turn out to be somewhat reliable then i would give it a shot for sure; besides the looks the interior is nice for its class so thats a plus.
Elantra has been around for years and years. Sounds like a funny complaint. The N is a newer department and will keep growing and getting better.
One thing I have learned: there is no perfect car. Every car leaves something to be desired.
You're not wrong there. There's always something to improve with every car!
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Man those things are SO cool!!! Great video!!!😁
Thank you :) 🖤
SERIOUSLY What do you really know Kiddo
These cars are dope
It was an absolute blast to drive TBH. What a fun car!
Awesome review buddy! - bummed I’ll miss seeing you while your here in socal!
Next time, deal?!
@@AlexMartini. - beer and cocktails on me! Maybe some taijin too 😉🤣
@5:51 agreed, I REALLY liked the design on the 17-18 Elantra sport’s. Hyundai decided to redesign AGAIN with a more triangly design. Still feel some type of way of them killing off the Veloster N.
DO you think they'll stay around?
I own the DCT Elantra N, absolutely love it. You're pretty much spot on with everything you're adding in. You should kind of know those things going in but, I have to say the car has exceeded my expectations and every. You have to understand at this price point you're not going to get everything, but they definitely give you more than your money's worth. BTW, I've owned plenty of very nice cars. I didn't want that "very nice car payment". If you're on the fence about buying one of these cars, get off the fence and go buy one but make sure you get the DCT, the performance gap is significant. Otherwise, you just have another Turbo 4 cylinder with a manual transmission....
I'm more of a manual transmission guy, but for some reason I'd rather have a dct
Personally, Id take the manual over the dct. Less performance for more fun, a worthy sacrifice
Id say the the biggest gap in performance is the launch. The DCT can get a much better launch. The shifting is also much quicker with hold boost in between shifts. Other than that the car is almost the same. Id say it would beat the MT by a rear bumper on a roll but from a dig i would say a car length. I need to test it soon
@Darien Haghighat no it literally destroys the manual badly...seen it person digs and rolls...😢
I gave you a thumbs up right away for that cool intro.
I’m not going to lie- it was hard to get through this video. Although it’s “honest” it felt so overly negative. First, there’s maybe 10 dealerships that are selling this at MSRP. My dealership in Vegas is selling at 47,000 out the door. These cars are selling for more used than brand new. In order to buy one (one you want in terms of color and transmission)you’re actually going to have to buy out of state (which Hyundais policy just changed to not allow this everywhere) or reserve one before they arrive to the lot. I have spent the last 72 hours calling every dealership in the country that claims they have one, or are having ones in transit. Knowing that alone, it’s pretty obvious that people WANT this car. It’s a unicorn car. I just felt so much bias coming from you. Sure the vents are fake- who cares it still looks great. It’s not like we’re reviewing a 60-80k plus car, I mean come on now. You’re reviewing a Hyundai. This car needs more praise. The numbers speak for the demand alone. You’re video should have focused on why people are willing to spend wayyy over to get their hands on this. I appreciate the content but I feel like you missed the point.
And here’s your 3 reasons for buying the N- 1. It’s a great blend of having a daily driver and performance 2. The interior alone is unmatched 3. Albert Biermann was behind the project. In terms of depreciation, I think the car will do just fine considering a used N line (not the N) are going for 30k😂🤡
Sounds like you know way better about car design than Biermann🙄
You need to do more research on this vehicle and the N Division. Those are not fake vents. 😮 I agree with others here, you are trolling for views as this is one of the BEST CARS OUT PERIOD. No one mentioned Elantra and Motorsport before this one was built and it seems this would be the main rival for anyone considering the CTR
Not a huge N line fan as I like the Muscle Car variety but this video was awesome! Well done and earned my sub. Cant wait to check out some other videos of yours.
Also @14:42 You said "hard on" and it made me giggle because I am also 7 LOL
Veloster N owner here. Modding community is lacking compared to its competitors, but I don't care. I have a fun and unique hot hatch that gets constant compliments and looks good thanks to some new Rotiforms from Fitment Industries 😎
Whatd you get for rotiforms? Those dope kb1s? 19 +45s? I have an ultra black 22 m/t VN. I literally just curbed my back passenger wheel today so pissed never done that before in my life smh. Ive been thinking of getting some of those but 29 pounds seems kinda heavy? Also debating 18 by 8.5 with some ps4s idk what to do
@@taylordelano las-r 19x8.5 with some extreme contact dws06. Definitely got the right wheel. It looks gooooood.
Love that you love it and that's what matters man!
Everyone wants to compare this to a Civic Type 'R' but it really should be compared to the SI instead! I was just quoted $39,ooo+ change for an SI three days ago here in Georgia. (7% sales tax and a bunch of extra dealer charges)
... So how would you rate this in a manual vs the SI ???
Just got a manual N last week and for the money it’s easily the best car in its segment. It’s WAY better than Civic si and IMO 85% of a type r (had one and sold cause for what I paid for it just wasn’t worth it.)
Are you happy with your decision?
I have a Type R now and I'm considering trading for an EN, probably DCT. I love the CTR but I'm in the same boat, bought mine a bit over MSRP and not sure it's worth it when I can get an EN for significantly cheaper with most of the performance. I also find the CTR is pretty stressful to own.
How are the wheels/tires on the EN? Are they as damage prone as the 20 inch wheels on the CTR?
@@joecostmedia9403 Yeah no regrets man the car is just awesome. I switched out my type R wheels with some 17s because of the ride quality so I never had an issue with messing up my wheels. Elantra is just way more everyday friendly and much more premium feeling. Type R is a better “track” car I guess but that doesn’t matter to me.
@@xblfanatic360 Gotcha
How is the ride compared to the CTR?
How are the seats compared to the CTR?
@@joecostmedia9403 the ride is much softer than the Type R. I live in NYC and roads are pretty trash so it could be rough at times. And the seats are waaaaaay nicer. The bucket seats have the N that glow at night that such a nice touch.
@@xblfanatic360 Wow that's impressive! I've always thought the CTR rode well and was pretty comfortable, if the EN is better at both, plus all the customization at a better price, I'm probably sold on one. Thanks for the info! I appreciate it!
Aahhhhh, that pronunciation of “Tiburon” hurt 😢 anyway, great video! Definitely agree with what was said about the price-point and mod-ability. Sadly I don’t think this car can gain a cult following, but maybe if Hyundai keeps it around it’ll get some more attention?
I'm hoping it stays around longer!
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Lol all that about the fake vent n he never tried looking through it to see that it isn't.
Precisely...very thorough 🤣
@13:17 definitely hear you on that. Mods I know of for Hyundai-Kias are Mostly tunes, w downpipes, and turbo upgrades. Hopefully there will be a bigger aftermarket, when popularity increases for KDM’s.
Completely agree ! I like what the stinger market did.
The unfortunate thing but this goes with many car companies is variants. The US EN does not have sunroof with the MT.... while in Canada they have MT plus Sunroof and additional colors. In Korea the EN does have rear vents, probably even has stop and go cruise control, and a functional 3rd button but after import it would be a much more expensive car so they do shave off here and there.
Dank reveiw definitely would watch more. Do one for WRX plz ;-;
My guy is turning into a Millennial version of Daddy Doug D.
GIVE ME THE DADDY DOUG TITLE
I run the little brother of elantra n I run the forte gt 1.6 t and holy cow I love it I never thought about selling it or nothing but great daily car amd sounds mean. Some of vents on front are functional
That’s awesome man and I’m glad you enjoy it! What’s all done to it?!
@@AlexMartini. blow off ,catch can witch this owner needs to do ,cold air intake ,axle back,and a stage one chassis strength kit .
I was thinking of buying this car all other videos made me want it more but your made me want to wait to get the 2024 electric dodge charger
Why do I have a strange feeling that the N is goin to massacre the Type R...
Let’s find out!
You mean future generations? Because the newest EN is still outperformed by the previous gen Type R.
@@dknight25 Hyundai learns from it's short comings ...honda could care less...
I love my Elantra N and I was one of those people who talk crap about Hyundai prior owner of wrx sti,wrx,civic si, Camry and many others is time to credit Hyundai for what they doing.
The reason real car enthusiasts don't review it and talk about slamming it is becase is not a car guy thing to destroy your car and make it drive worse
Really?! There’s types for everyone man!
That front bumper is offensive.
I ended up getting this over a 400z
honestly it was SO worth it why wait another year when I can enjoy this now and still get it to 400hp with a sturdier suspension setup and better exhaust off the lot got dayum its fun :)
still cant bang the I4 yet because I only have a couple hundred miles on it lmao.
Well think about it this way , there is only 3 Manual sedans on the market , VW Jetta GLI, Elantra N , and Honda SI/Acura Integra.... and if you can close your eyes to cheap plastic the N is the best car among them... Fun , Power and for sure as overall package without extra extras.
Forte gt comes in manual too
I'm glad you're tapping on the vents to tell me whethert it's a race car or not. Wtf
As much as some enthusiast will complain about FWD platforms, they are the only ones left that are truly affordable, relative to their AWD/RWD bretheren. Nothing wrong with starting out with a FWD platform. Yes, you can’t do drifts and skids, but most people can’t do that legally/safely anyway. There are more ways to have fun than skids/drifts. Don’t let people deter you away from enjoying a well done FWD platform.
had to wait 3 months but i got my performance blue EN DCT for $29,500 USD. For a brand new car at that price in todays market there is literally no other car that can compete. BTW i sold my e92 m3 competition manual for one of these.
Isn’t that less than sticker or am I crazy lol
@@alichaudhri1326 yes, i got it under sticker.
@@dylanb2142 damn how?!
@@alichaudhri1326 I work in the industry so the dealer GM gave me a nice discount. Also they are much cheaper in Canada where i am.
…If you can find one and have a dealer stay close to msrp. Trying to find a manual 6, even harder. Well thrown together, cheapo fun car that I cannot help wanting badly. And I’m 53yrs old. Go figure.
Hey there’s nothing wrong with that!
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Kia Amanti
-Mercedes E class
Hyundai Genesis Coupe
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Kia Elantra N
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I feel like I would enjoy Hyundai’s cars more if they were represented in games like Need for speed or other racing games.
That's fair! Time to get them into Assetto!
Coming from someone who owns a Hyundai Genesis 2016 3.8 V6 with the round 348 horsepower and 320 torque. Naturally aspirated however I'm not here to flex or hate! It's quiet impressive let alone the exterior designing interior I would rate at 8 out of 10. When it comes to performance on a 2.0 plus the exhaust the cool little features that you find on a Porsche or Audi! If you have the budget I would definitely go for one. If you live in California be warned cops will humbly send you to the state ref because they're being messed up about The cars exhaust passes 96 db in N mode boom boom Pop crackless sound effects! If you do buy it please don't be pulled over driving in N mode October 16th of 2022 they made it illegal in California to be operating any vehicle that is not on drive it's b******* but hey 😂. See even the cops wish they had this car! I say the Hyundai Elantra N! Is well worth the value. Hope for the upcoming N to see a V6 o baby in that light weight car! Yes sir! I test driven one and honestly you don't need a salesman to Jedi mind trick you into buying one XD. ✌️
I think this is the best enthusiasts car under 50k.
bro that intro is WIIILD
I love your hatred for fake vents. I too share the same.
If they were fake...then maybe
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Clearly no research here....vents actually channel air to brake deflectors 🤦🏾
I really liked the editing on the intro. I'm on the same page with Alex on this one. A GTI, WRX, Civic SI those cars/badges have legacy/meaning and staying power. I'm silly in that the badge and the legacy mean some thing to me. Any of those cars that I mentioned conjure up emotions and thoughts of what that badge means. When you get into a GTI you know what to expect. It'll be a comfy family hauler when need be and capable canyon carver when asked. The WRX is an AWD beast that is more brawn than comfort, and will let you push your car/skills to limit, A Civic SI is screaming pocket rocket that won't break the bank or break down.
If Hyundai wants to get to that level then they need to keep this trim level around and keep evolving it to mean something. It can't just be another sporty sedan, it needs to have an identity. Automotive history is littered with cars that have ton of performance, but didn't have a identity. Hyundai didn't do the N line any favors by canning the Veloster. It cheapens the N line by making it disposable. Dodge did the same thing with the SRT badge for a while. Chevy did it with the SS badge back in the day. Ford is currently doing it with the ST badge here in the US. If the N line has a chance to hang around and carve out a meaningful following it might reach the same level as some of the other more revered marques in the industry.
I totally disagree, but then again in Europe, Hyndai has a lot more presence (and models). Also the amount of N's on the actual Nürburgring is getting more and more (they have a development center 'Ringside). So for us the N already has meaning.
@@Mirage8v I don't know how Hyundai entered the European market, but here in the US we got decades of substandard compact cars. It's hard to overcome that history. I'd say it's only been the last 7-10 years that Hyundai started making cars that weren't thought of as budget/cheap cars. Even today Hyundai is in a class action lawsuit for their cars spontaneously catching fire.
Let me ask you this. When someone mentions the Elantra N what does it mean? Do you know exactly what type of experience you can expect out of it? For me it's just a black hole. I have alot of experience with GTIs. So I know what to expect. However I've never owned a WRX or Civic SI and I still have an expectation of what that car should provide as an experience.
@@brandons9138 They entered the market here, the same way the Japanese did. 15 years before them. Uninspiring cheap cars that were very reliable.
For us Europeans though, we see US cars as sub-par in quality and reliability. Even just plain boring apart from the odd muscle car/sportscar. So it works different on different continents.
When someone mentions a Hyundai N to me, I think of the Ring, and decent sporty models for a good price, that can easily compete with Megane RS's and GTI's.
Then again, when someone mentions Civic Type R I am amazed at the tech, not the quality of the vehicle. When someone says STI I think of a rally legend and vaping ;) . When someone mentions GTI I think of a has been that's living on past glory and becomes softer every generation.
It seems to all be in context with what you are used to in your part of the world.
And no, I do not own a Hyundai (or Kia). Yet do own a French, a German and an American car.
@@Mirage8v Absolutely. Context is everything. You European folk get sportier models on a more frequent basis than we do here in the US. Don't get me wrong I think the Elantra N is a good step in the right direction for Hyundai. They just have to be careful not to dilute the N badge by putting it in anything and everything. That is the kiss of death for a performance marque.
@@brandons9138 if you’ve got an N car, it’s a car that’s already ready for the track. Hyundai has made it clear that their goal is to make the N brand for driving enthusiasts who value fun. It’s not meant to be a lap killer, like the Type R, or an all weather beast like the WRX. When I hear N, I think of a great driving car. It provides all the gadgets you’d want for track work, and even provides a nice exhaust note.
As an Elantra n owner I can give u more than 2 reasons to get one. 1 it’s the best bang for ur buck. 2 it’s good on mpg if u want it to. 3 in terms of performance its actually fast I’ve beaten cars I think it shouldn’t beat suck as a 370z. 4 they refined the motor since it was in the genesis 2.0t. 5 it’s one of the best cornering cars that I’ve driven ( 2018 370z ,2016 mustang, 2017 camero, 2019 type r, 2015 c63, 2009 genesis 3.8 and 2016 focus st) and for 6 the exhaust note. Your being a little to rough on the car ur judging Hyundai and not really the car itself cause it has magna ride a rear chassis brace factory made big breaks and an active exhaust. None of that was mentioned. Especially with modding these out lap3 did a down pipe wet injection and a tune and got it to 500whp and these r reliable numbers. I like ur reviews and I’ve followed u since fi but this one feels more like an attack on the car since Hyundai made it. Also hyundai got a guy from bmw that was a m engineer so these cars have more in them that what people think suck as factory remapping that will push the car to 20psi in the turbo giving you even more power for dollar.
Well Hyundai is the fifth largest automaker in the world and I understand the evolution and popularity in other bands. But evolving these days is much more rapid. We can’t be stuck in the OG days anymore if you wanna get to the top of your game. That’s why Hyundai is investing in itself and right off the bat hired three BMW chassis engineers to create a race winning fun to drive vehicle like the N lines and N. Don’t forget what N stands for Nürnberg Ring where Hyundai’s now engineers are honing the N to be not only civil in the daily grind but also with few modifications, a track weapon. 🏎️🏎️🏎️
So my question is, would you recommend this as a daily driver for a beginner-level car enthusiast?
Can you please do a video on the Kona N and other subcompact performance SUVs and how they are affecting the car scene? :)
Hell yes I can I just need to find one to get my hands on!
Great Video, I'm currently awaiting my EN to arrive, so any time there's a new review, I'm all over it. Your criticism of the EN is understood, however, I'm a "Bang for Buck" type of customer unwilling to pay more for the perceived value of more notable brands. I'm curious to know why the ridiculously good Standard warranty for these cars was not mentioned as a Pro, is it assumed that all car enthusiast must modify their car immediately and void the warranty?
In my opinion, the North American EN ranks 8/10... Hyundai definitely left some meat on the bone by not including AWD & serving North America with such a stripped-down version, South Korea, and other markets have Upgraded Seats (optional), rear Vents, and Moon roofs as an option for both DCT and 6MT. Sure, it would be $40k, but still worth it.
Your gonna love it! Congrats
Same here. I watcheed multiple reviews on every sports car out there under 50-55k and even tho i could go woth m240i i decided i rsther save up couple hundreds a month and get EN. It comes with everything u need and more. I just wanted a quick car with potential to modify. And fucking EN comes with almost all the modifications u need lol. Sports seat(heated was big thing why i went en and not veloster), adaptive suspension wooot at 35k ?? Digital cluster. I said. “Yes pls”. This thing seems to be better than everything else that is out there at this price range. Mine should arrive by the end of this month. Cant wait man. Im so exited
It has potential to be a decent build just like any other car, I think we’ll all see at least 1 at a car meet or they could completely takeover the car scene like the g35’s did
You think this has the g potential? That’s interesting but I like it! Why do you feel that way?
@@AlexMartini. the starting price, they’re so cheap and those exhaust notes plus the manuals? I think it does had potential if not now in a couple years when they are passed down to the second owners
You do make a good point better to see if the car will be supported long term. Better not to buy one right off the bat even though it does seem like a good ass deal
Remember, Hondas, Toyotas & Nissans were shit when they came to the states. As far as depreciation it all depends on how long one plans on keeping it (get gap insurance). I hate fake vents too, but even the Germans do them. I own a Stinger and love it! I think it’s time for folks to quit bagging on Kia/Hyundai products. They’ve come a long way in a short time.
This was a pretty good video in terms of information ngl. That part @14:58 was especially worrisome to make when I first heard about the design 🫠😅
Where do I know this host from? Voice is super familiar? Different channel?
Sounds like linus tech tips
I appreciate the fact that you were a little harsher on it. A lot of people really enjoy the car and praise it any chance they get. As somebody who plans on buying one in the near future because I want a fun daily that I won’t modify much, I appreciate the different perspective.
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One of the biggest problems with Hyundai is that it doesn't have any kind of pedigree or reputation with the N badge in Motorsport or in the car community. The Veloster N already proved to be a better all around car than any ST, GTI, Si, and bites at the heels of the Type R, but the lack of history and "respect" as a solid contender comes from the fact that they're hard to trust.
You're also absolutely correct in that Hyundai doesn't get a fair chance to make any name for themselves since they kill off all of their good cars too early (rip Veloster N and Genesis Coupe)
Agree wit you man..They make good cars but replace them a few years after (way to soon as you said bout 2-3 years ) and you have your version of a Kia/Hyundai and its sorta like from your friends " Yeahhhh they dont make that car anymore dude, here is there new one"
That's what I worry about.
I own a Veloster N and I'm kinda bummed that instead of improving that car, they took everything they learned and put it into the Kona and Elantra for the 2022 model year.
I totally agree… the VN started this whole thing… Doesn’t seem right to dis continue it
Why do you say that?!
I’d love to hear your opinion on a Veloster N, it might not seem like much over here but it was critically important to the Korean car culture as a whole. The aftermarket might seem small but the cool thing about the VeloN, Elantra N, and Kona N, is that a lot of their aftermarket is interchangeable. The only issue with this is outside of Korea you’ve got like 3 brands that make everything and they can charge whatever they want. This ends up with an aftermarket that isn’t crazy but it one thousand dollars you to death. When the Veloster N was introduced it was built to be the cheapest car you can buy at a dealership and drive straight to a track. Every ounce of the price was put into powertrain and suspension, this left the car with a very raw feel. There was no blind spot monitoring, no auto braking, no lane keep assist, and when you turned that TCS button off it was off. This is my own speculation but I remember people complained a lot about the comfort and quality of the VeloN and they tried to resolve this a bit by bringing those features into it and adding a DCT but I think ultimately this is what lead to the Elantra and Kona N. Both being way nicer but also feeling less raw and purpose built. The Veloster N also came at a critical time for Korea’s car scene, right around when it was released laws on car modification in Korea were becoming more relaxed. This sparked a fire with new Korean tuner shops popping up to capitalize on the new found interest in Motorsport, many focusing on circuit racing and time trials. This includes brands like Lap3 tuning and High Performance Kr. There are even plenty of smaller shops that make bespoke parts for these cars, but many of these shops don’t have a strong internet presence so it takes some digging to find them. All in all it reminds me of how the JDM market was in the 90s and I think maybe in a few years bespoke KDM parts importation is going to be a big thing.
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