It's kinda like the modern equivalent to the styling of american cars in the late 50's. Especially the cars in the more luxury end of the spectrum. odd angles and fairly in your face styling cues.
The “burble tune” on this car acts as a functional anti-lag system in N mode. Engineering Explained did a cool segment on it. Great video as always Zach and Matt!
I doubt that. I think you mean it replicates the sound of antilag. There's no reason to have antilag with a small turbo thats always spooled idk maybe im wrong dont care enough to actually look this things so ugly why they refuse to bring the i30n is beyond me its the best looking of the three
This is the most fun car I’ve ever owned, hands-down. Have owned it for almost 5 months and I still can’t wait to get in it every day! Was worried I would regret buying a manual but I couldn’t be happier w my choice!
@@v8_sami Absolutely terrible. Drove over an hour down to test drive the DCT that they told me they just got in.. showed up and it was a manual. Talked myself into trying it anyway and they let me take it out for no more than 5 mins. Sat down and they started the negotiations at 45k which blew my mind. Got them down to 37.5. sat there for almost 4 hours to sign the papers. Got home after signing the papers and noticed that they added 2,500 onto the agreed price on my final paper work. I was there for 6 hours so I rushed signing and shoulda paid better attn. but I love the car so much that I’m not even that upset
Coming from owning multiple 600 hp + cars and buying an Elantra N as a daily. It is a very fun car to drive and its capability will surprise you when pushing it hard on some curves.
I just bought a 6-speed manual - intense blue. I wasn't crazy about the front-end styling or any of the outside. It grew on me. Then when I drove the car, I didn't really care what the front end looked like anymore. The performance feels like a much more expensive car. If I had another 12k sitting around that I didn't need, I would have bought a Civic Type R. Since I didn't have it like that, this is the next best thing.
5:12 "Remember there are cyclists" As a car and cyclist guy, I appreciate the HELL out of how aware and courteous of cyclists Matt has always been. Thanks for letting drivers and cyclists enjoy killer canyon roads safely, my man!
It would be a much better place if people ran cyclists off the road. They are a blight on the roads, backing up traffic, acting like they belong in the middle of the street...
Type R is going for $15k over MSRP (at least around me) which makes them $60k. The Elantra at $35k seems like a great deal. Compare this to $28k for an Si or $37K for Integra A-spec and it's personal choice where you want to spend your $$. I would also throw in the WRX for consideration. I put GTI for a different buyer as running costs are significantly higher. We need a new Sentra SE-R!
I absolutely love mine! I’m gonna meet it stock, 100K mile warranty on engine and transmission shows how strongly Hyundai believes in this engines reliability :-)
Well being owner of many Hyundai and Genesis vehicles, they always try their best to put the expenses on your side and not put anything under warranty and they make you argue with them all the time!! but regardless great cars
my friend is a mechanic for a hyundai dealer and he said they screw people all the time by saying things are technically not under warranty and that he regularly has cars come in with blown motors/trans so yeaaaah
600 miles into a 6-spd in Performance Blue, ordered in Dec and paid a hair below sticker so it is possible. Everything I hoped for and more. 53 year old long time sport-compact Gti, WRX,ST, RS, owner......nobody is building anything like this anymore--- Just "nice" enough to impress a few passengers, or at least need no apologies....just "hardcore" enough to put a huge smile on your face the rest of the time. Diff, steering feel, brake feel, throttle response and yes, the sound---- just everything has the right enthusiast's touch. Strangely for some I guess, the feedback on the color and overall look has been EXTREMELY positive. I had a Molten Orange and an Orange Spice Fiesta STs as my last two sport compacts so I guess this color is actually a bit tame lol......and "the face" just works for me, plus the lighting looks good, and for its price-point, I find the headlight function top notch....
I'm a 50-year-old and i actually own a 2019 fiesta ST and am thinking about purchasing this vehicle. how does the manual feel, and do you use the rev match? do you mind not having the sunroof? why did you go for the manual as opposed to the auto? I really appreciate your post and am looking forward to your response before going for a test drive.
@@operation_inherent_resolve I am an old FWD scca racer nerd, so I had actually tried twice to NOT have a sunroof on my previous STs, but both had them just based on availability. While I ended up enjoying sunroofs for the most part in the Fists, I don't miss it at all in this car, and the "racer nerd" in me is satisfied that I don't have the dead weight of a sunroof overhead lol. The manual feels great, with a much more weighty, metallic feeling shifter than the Fist, clutch take up is light, but very smooth--- not sure what the issue was with a few reviews of the clutch out there. Since the DCT was obviously going to be a very sporting one (the N powershift mode for instance, happily allows torque to increase into the next clutch engagement, leading to a very satisfying "punch" in the back at each shift), I struggled a bit deciding when it came to ordering--- what finally sealed it was the idea that this was likely the last NEW manual transmission car I may ever buy, so I went with it. The rev match feature, as is the case with most cars that have it, works so perfectly---- at first I stubbornly turned it off, then reluctantly tried it, then noticed to absolutely no one's surprise how great it works, aaaaaand how much better it is than I. Overall, I hoped for a new car that would capture the rowdy fun of the Fist. It easily does that, while crossing the threshold into what is a genuinely quick, high performance car by any measure. What I didn't expect, we just how much "nicer" of a thing it would be as a whole. The interfaces and telematics are absolutely top notch, seats are about the same as the Fist Recaros in terms of comfort for me, while being more accommodating for others and a lot more "upscale" in terms of appearance. The gains in overall size and comfort was not initially even considered by me, but is now a very welcome bonus!! Suspension adjustment ranges from significantly stiffer that the Fist set up, to significantly softer....the softer setting along with the long wheelbase makes this car seem like an S-class after nearly 200k miles in two Fists lol. Finally, exhaust settings from genuinely rowdy and being "that guy" with the pops and bangs (much louder than the Mountune catback on the Fist), to the ECO or normal mode being much quieter than the Mountune exhaust. I cruise into the neighborhood quieter than both old orange cars, while a few miles back I was singing Seb Loeb anti-lag fantasies through an underpass. Highly recommended.
@@operation_inherent_resolve 52yo track dog myself. When I was hunting for one, I noticed that the dealers were not marking up the manual nearly as much as the DCT. I was hell bent for the DCT, so I delt with it......zero regrets. I absolutely love it! I like the versatility and the extra performance you get from the DCT. I did drive a manual and the performance difference is noticeable. I suggest you drive them both before fully committing. Happy hunting!
@@zxmurph1 Thanks, for your timely response and great insight. I hadn't thought of it that way. This will probably be the last new manual for me as well, but that WDC seems so enticing. I see what you mean as far as extras that the hard core enthusiast really doesn't need, and in the long term, your probably better off w/out the SR. I very well may do the same. Do you think adding a short shift mod will actually make the manual even better or is it fine as is? Love the Seb Loeb reference.
The reality is this-7500 miles in 3 months and I still love getting in and driving it. The Sound is a riot and the tight steering makes cornering a blast. For $35k-there’s not a lot out there much more fun than this.
@@andrewrossnagel9433 more than likely space, practicality and livability. Thats one thing about the GR86, cant really stack a bunch of things into it. (i tried to fit one in to go to the beach, ultimately i had to take my fiestaST instead) My FiestaST has more space
@@andrewrossnagel9433 I’m not sure it would compare just because 2-door vs. 4 door, but the 86/BRZ would definitely be up there in the “Fun” department. They were both built to be toys-and that’s cool.
I just picked up an Elantra N and love it! I was a vw guy but they drove me away from even looking at a Golf with their huge mistakes on the new infotainment system. Thanks for the great review!
@@mr2turbo12 no regrets at all the stiffness only becomes an issue on consistently bad roads… and that’s rare where I am … a lot of the issues is not really a issue if u drive slower 🤷♂️ single pot holes aren’t too bad but multiple in a row is rediculous but the fun I have with this car makes me look way pass that… absolutely no regrets 11k miles in
@@DriverJ-N Sounds good...Can't wait to take one on a test drive. I would also think downsizing to 18's with a 45 sidewall tire would also help smooth out the ride.
Well it is a little funny what he is saying about the looks of the car, it was my initial hangup. I got the DCT and went with black on black colors which definitely hides some of those funny lines. With dark tint and ceramic coating I think looks quite sexy. Now that i have owned it for several months I can say with confidence, I absolutely love the car! It has exceeded my expectations. Anybody thinking about getting one, don't hesitate.....
Hyundai has been killing it lately with their performance cars, along with Honda and Toyota. This looks like a great car, and probably the more refined choice compared to the Veloster N. My guess is that the new Type R will best the Elantra N, but it's also going to be more expensive and the markups are sure to be insane.
While their N line seems to be doing good, the company has had many serious recalls across their whole lineup in the last year. New class action just the other day. I'd somewhat agree they have been killing it design wise, but the quality, mechanical wise, doesn't seem to be much different than the typical Hyundai iffy quality.
Bought my 2015 Kia Sorento in March of 2017 and have had problems with it pretty much right away. Started with my key fob. The driver door does not recognize my key fob and I have to either open the passenger door to unlock my car or hit the fob multiple times before the driver's door opens. I've replaced the batteries and it hasn't helped. My alternator dies at 66K miles, which I thought was ridiculous. I called Kia to see if they would grant any good will since I was out of warranty and they did nothing. Claimed they couldn't help since I was the 2nd owner.
Fantastic point about the width of the seat base. I tried out the i30n with the N Light seats here in Australia, and i felt like i was sitting ontop of the thigh bolsters - and i am by no means a large guy. I consider this a bit of a deal breaker, as i think the standard cloth seats that we get here just don't cut it. I'm buying a GR Yaris instead.
Just got my space black Elantra N this past Friday...black looks so good in person btw as I ordered the car sight unseen. It's so much fun even though I'm babying it until 1000kms. Coming from driving a truck and work van this things feels so planted and quick. Can't wait for the break in to be over!
You're not controlling the burble tune through the entertainment settings. That's only controlling the pumped in audio. It's off by default in the normal N mode and can only be enabled in the custom setting. The exhaust setting controls the pops and bangs and they only happen in full sport+.
What a coincidence, this morning I just got an invite Hyundai to drive N cars at Laguna Seca. I'm thinking of going since I plan to buy one. The Elantra N is way more hardcore than the Civic Si. It competes more with the Type R tbh.
I believe Matt & I are about the same size & I'd love for the steering wheel in my Forte GT to come out 1 more inch as well. Seems like a small gripe but it would definitely make the driving experience better.
At 6’8 I also struggle with cars not having enough telescopic range on the steering wheel. I drive a MK7 Golf and my legs have plenty of room when I move the seat all the way back, but I have a hard time reaching the top of the steering wheel.
Barely. My Si is 6.1 and 9 years old 2013. It also has a sunroof that the Elantra needs. If US manuals had a sunroof I’d consider buying one cause they are pretty cool.
@@galacticresidue9596 yeah but then Honda made em slower after for some reason 😂 the DCT got 4.8 seconds to 60 according to C&D and comes with a moon roof. That's almost 2 seconds faster than the '22 Civic, I would say performance wise they're in different classes. I myself don't care too much about 0-60 or a moon roof, though it'd be nice to have, so 6 spd it is.
Awesome vid guys! Any chance you'll be taking a look at the i20N/i30N? side note: was awesome hearing Matt on 2B1C today, sounds like alot of effort behind the scenes to get that all sorted for Tom, what an awesome friend.
I'm interested in Kona N. Especially how much more room do you get with Kona over Veloster. Imo they more similar then different on the interior space. Just taller packaging.
I’ve had my 2022 Elantra Hybrid for 6 months and I love it. Obviously not the same as the N but a very nice car with lots of features and more comfortable seats in the Limited trim. I’ve also gotten over 50 mpg in some commuting type situations.
I have a lexus ct200h and want an Elantra N (car guy and finally old enough to afford something fast) but my buddy got an Elantra hybrid. I drive a lot and i'd have a hard time giving up 40+ mpg
Great review guys! I'll be waiting for your Kona N review, since I want this to be my next daily. Interested in hearing your thoughts about the suspension in soft mode and it it's fine for a daily or too stiff.
I've had mine for a bit over a month now I think, approaching 1500 miles. It's pretty stiff but fine as a daily, depending on your tolerance for it at least. I'm coming from a 2008 Mini w/sport suspension and it feels comparable (maybe a bit rougher) so I was kinda used to that type of ride. I think the middle setting is the best, might be a little harder (not entirely sure there) but the big difference is that it basically dampens out all the bounciness present in the lowest setting. I haven't bothered with the hardest setting since testing it out on the long way home from the dealer, can't see using that one except on perfectly smooth road/track. One last thing to keep in mind (from what I vaguely remember reading) is that the seats are supposedly more livable than the ones in the other N models, so that probably helps a bit.
@@1209MArky Looking at the video here it's Normal/Sport/Sport+, so yeah Sport. I used to swap between Normal and Sport as part of how my N custom modes were set up, but once I noticed how bouncy Normal was (or conversely, how much more composed Sport was) I switched it to Sport for both custom modes.
Great review, although I totally disagree with the opinion regarding the car’s look. I think it looks magnificent all the way around, like a road assassin. The Performance Blue matches perfectly with the black nose and red trim.
What you're talking about with the display panels is an OLED vs LCD panel. An OLED will be very black and vivid, much better than most LCD's. OLED's do experience burn-in which could be an issue down the line for repairability. I still kinda think most cars in 2022 should have OLED.
I was so excited to drive the N, it was perfect in every way but one. I just could not live with the seats, too aggressive. Went and bought a GTI instead, I am thrilled with it.
@@mr2turbo12 it does, and you’re right. It’s a comfort machine but is so boring to drive. I’ve previously had a genesis coupe too so Hyundai’s comfort is pretty decent for the money I think.
10:04-10:22 Just like how you guys have mentioned in another video, that speed is starting to become synthetic due to EV’s being faster than anything ICE and easy to get behind and drive, I think that transmissions are also becoming very synthetic as well. Just like you mentioned that having these dual-clutched transmissions in normal “everyday” vehicles, is just as good of a feeling of connectivity as an race cars and high priced vehicles, that’s making these cars feel…boring, hence synthetic. This is why manual transmissions will always be favored as the choice for pure connective fun. Each vehicles manual transmission feels different than another’s. It also can be modified to become personal in feel and connectivity. A dual clutch on a car that is tuned, feels very much the same as another vehicles tuned dual clutch. So what I’m saying is though dual clutches are faster, they just aren’t as special…
Once they do the Kona N - the only answer I want is which of the 3 they would buy for themselves - Kona N, Veloster N or Elantra N if that were their options.
“How ‘tall’ are you?” That my friends, is a euphemism for a particular herd of people who tend to complain about seats that nobody else complains about. :/
People either hate or love the front of the car, I don't think I've seen anyone in between. Personally, I absolutely love it and everything else about the car
I went to go test fit this car as well, the interior didn't quite look all that nice in terms of overall quality and I'm in between Matt and Zack in terms of width although as tall as Matt and I didn't quite find them comfortable and the same issue the wheel not telescoping far enough. Another note is this comes with the integrated wheel bearing/axel it's one unit so if those ever bust you have to replace the whole unit with the cost of both in long term ownership. I assume this is a high wear part because fwd enthusiast vehicle. If I owned the vehicle, I would black out the red accents and wrap the black girl with some body matching blue and it would need steering wheel extension, later better seats.
Why'd you say the automatic was the only option on this car at 2:05? It has a manual option, which I believe is the superior option. You guys actually mention that later in the vid at 2:45, but it's a bit of a confusing statement early on at the first time reference point. Maybe an editing error?
I don't think this car should be compared to gti/gli because it's so much better than any of those but at the same time can't be compared to type R/golf R because these two are slightly better. Elantra N it's kinda of a lone wolf
Great review guys! Also love to see Matt’s respect and awareness for the cyclist. Allowing everyone to safely & responsibly enjoy these awesome roads 🙌
When Zack took his shades odd at 13:50 I thought he was going to pull a gun and start shouting put down your weapon, stand down. That moustache is powerful.
13:15 The front of the car receives a substantial redesign for 2014 that is much more appealing, also better looking wheels IMO. Other styling changes are minor.
@@patrickbilodeau3785 people like you should buy the DCT because you clearly do not understand why people prefer manual. Its about the experience, not speed.
@@patrickbilodeau3785 at the same time, few opportunities exist in daily life to convert the potential of a DCT into reality while at least with a manual you know more or less that you're getting the most out of it in more situations.
I maybe in the minority, but I like the face. It's futuristic in the way the 90's design language moved forward from angular 70's and 80's design
I think it's alright. I wonder if a front plate makes it look different.
I own an Elantra N and love the car from every angle. Hyundai nailed the design !
I like it as well
It's kinda like the modern equivalent to the styling of american cars in the late 50's. Especially the cars in the more luxury end of the spectrum. odd angles and fairly in your face styling cues.
I love the front end. I think it’s cohesive and it’s feels modern.
I’m glad to see you got the actor who played goose in top gun as your co-reviewer now… he did well 👍
He’s more Viper than Goose.
@@biznatcho7 - he’s a little young but with a little age and grey you have a point…. The hair cut really sells it.
Great balls of fire!!
Freaking Goose
The “burble tune” on this car acts as a functional anti-lag system in N mode. Engineering Explained did a cool segment on it. Great video as always Zach and Matt!
I doubt that. I think you mean it replicates the sound of antilag. There's no reason to have antilag with a small turbo thats always spooled idk maybe im wrong dont care enough to actually look this things so ugly why they refuse to bring the i30n is beyond me its the best looking of the three
@@jak3est do your research to settle your doubt instead of an assumption
@@jak3est sheesh man learn about the topic before you talk about it. Stop assuming
@@xXxUrbanNinjaxXx just looked it up its not real racecar anti lag which actually hurts the turbo. Its pretty much a gimmick
@@jak3est you are literally wrong my dude lol
This is the most fun car I’ve ever owned, hands-down. Have owned it for almost 5 months and I still can’t wait to get in it every day! Was worried I would regret buying a manual but I couldn’t be happier w my choice!
Man that’s the goal, enjoy it every day
Yessss
How was the dealership experience?
One does not simply regret buying a manual...
@@v8_sami Absolutely terrible. Drove over an hour down to test drive the DCT that they told me they just got in.. showed up and it was a manual. Talked myself into trying it anyway and they let me take it out for no more than 5 mins. Sat down and they started the negotiations at 45k which blew my mind. Got them down to 37.5. sat there for almost 4 hours to sign the papers. Got home after signing the papers and noticed that they added 2,500 onto the agreed price on my final paper work. I was there for 6 hours so I rushed signing and shoulda paid better attn. but I love the car so much that I’m not even that upset
Coming from owning multiple 600 hp + cars and buying an Elantra N as a daily. It is a very fun car to drive and its capability will surprise you when pushing it hard on some curves.
Is the Elantra N able to push u back into the seat if u accelerate hard?
@@Rururu-ci5dlyes
@@Rururu-ci5dl my Kona n don’t that that like my wrx but is faster
@@Rururu-ci5dloctane learned, yes. I’ve pulled 0.6g’s of acceleration (based of the in car g-meter)
I just bought a 6-speed manual - intense blue. I wasn't crazy about the front-end styling or any of the outside. It grew on me. Then when I drove the car, I didn't really care what the front end looked like anymore. The performance feels like a much more expensive car. If I had another 12k sitting around that I didn't need, I would have bought a Civic Type R. Since I didn't have it like that, this is the next best thing.
5:12 "Remember there are cyclists" As a car and cyclist guy, I appreciate the HELL out of how aware and courteous of cyclists Matt has always been. Thanks for letting drivers and cyclists enjoy killer canyon roads safely, my man!
Why wouldn't he? If I was a cyclist I would be dreaming for Matt to hit me on the road.
As a cyclist and a car guy I know bike doesnt belong on the road and should be used on bike only road.
It would be a much better place if people ran cyclists off the road. They are a blight on the roads, backing up traffic, acting like they belong in the middle of the street...
Roads are for cars. My courtesy extends to being a responsible driver and not wanting to hurt anyone, but that’s about it.
Okay boys keep shredding those V6 Mustangs while you grapple with your impotent rage
In my mind the Elantra N-line is the competitor to the Civic Si, while the Elantra N as you tested is in competition with the Type R.
Correct
It’s more a a tweezer in between SI and type r price wise…….performance wise yes it competes with type r definitely
Definitely
Type R is going for $15k over MSRP (at least around me) which makes them $60k. The Elantra at $35k seems like a great deal. Compare this to $28k for an Si or $37K for Integra A-spec and it's personal choice where you want to spend your $$. I would also throw in the WRX for consideration. I put GTI for a different buyer as running costs are significantly higher. We need a new Sentra SE-R!
I absolutely love mine! I’m gonna meet it stock, 100K mile warranty on engine and transmission shows how strongly Hyundai believes in this engines reliability :-)
Well being owner of many Hyundai and Genesis vehicles, they always try their best to put the expenses on your side and not put anything under warranty and they make you argue with them all the time!! but regardless great cars
they'll just keep replacing things for you until 100k or 10 years. make use of it while you can!
Lol 100k is nothing 🤣
I wont trust hyundai warranty.
my friend is a mechanic for a hyundai dealer and he said they screw people all the time by saying things are technically not under warranty and that he regularly has cars come in with blown motors/trans so yeaaaah
600 miles into a 6-spd in Performance Blue, ordered in Dec and paid a hair below sticker so it is possible. Everything I hoped for and more. 53 year old long time sport-compact Gti, WRX,ST, RS, owner......nobody is building anything like this anymore--- Just "nice" enough to impress a few passengers, or at least need no apologies....just "hardcore" enough to put a huge smile on your face the rest of the time. Diff, steering feel, brake feel, throttle response and yes, the sound---- just everything has the right enthusiast's touch. Strangely for some I guess, the feedback on the color and overall look has been EXTREMELY positive. I had a Molten Orange and an Orange Spice Fiesta STs as my last two sport compacts so I guess this color is actually a bit tame lol......and "the face" just works for me, plus the lighting looks good, and for its price-point, I find the headlight function top notch....
I'm a 50-year-old and i actually own a 2019 fiesta ST and am thinking about purchasing this vehicle. how does the manual feel, and do you use the rev match? do you mind not having the sunroof? why did you go for the manual as opposed to the auto? I really appreciate your post and am looking forward to your response before going for a test drive.
@@operation_inherent_resolve I am an old FWD scca racer nerd, so I had actually tried twice to NOT have a sunroof on my previous STs, but both had them just based on availability. While I ended up enjoying sunroofs for the most part in the Fists, I don't miss it at all in this car, and the "racer nerd" in me is satisfied that I don't have the dead weight of a sunroof overhead lol. The manual feels great, with a much more weighty, metallic feeling shifter than the Fist, clutch take up is light, but very smooth--- not sure what the issue was with a few reviews of the clutch out there. Since the DCT was obviously going to be a very sporting one (the N powershift mode for instance, happily allows torque to increase into the next clutch engagement, leading to a very satisfying "punch" in the back at each shift), I struggled a bit deciding when it came to ordering--- what finally sealed it was the idea that this was likely the last NEW manual transmission car I may ever buy, so I went with it. The rev match feature, as is the case with most cars that have it, works so perfectly---- at first I stubbornly turned it off, then reluctantly tried it, then noticed to absolutely no one's surprise how great it works, aaaaaand how much better it is than I.
Overall, I hoped for a new car that would capture the rowdy fun of the Fist. It easily does that, while crossing the threshold into what is a genuinely quick, high performance car by any measure. What I didn't expect, we just how much "nicer" of a thing it would be as a whole. The interfaces and telematics are absolutely top notch, seats are about the same as the Fist Recaros in terms of comfort for me, while being more accommodating for others and a lot more "upscale" in terms of appearance. The gains in overall size and comfort was not initially even considered by me, but is now a very welcome bonus!! Suspension adjustment ranges from significantly stiffer that the Fist set up, to significantly softer....the softer setting along with the long wheelbase makes this car seem like an S-class after nearly 200k miles in two Fists lol. Finally, exhaust settings from genuinely rowdy and being "that guy" with the pops and bangs (much louder than the Mountune catback on the Fist), to the ECO or normal mode being much quieter than the Mountune exhaust. I cruise into the neighborhood quieter than both old orange cars, while a few miles back I was singing Seb Loeb anti-lag fantasies through an underpass. Highly recommended.
@@operation_inherent_resolve 52yo track dog myself. When I was hunting for one, I noticed that the dealers were not marking up the manual nearly as much as the DCT. I was hell bent for the DCT, so I delt with it......zero regrets. I absolutely love it! I like the versatility and the extra performance you get from the DCT. I did drive a manual and the performance difference is noticeable. I suggest you drive them both before fully committing. Happy hunting!
@@zxmurph1 Thanks, for your timely response and great insight. I hadn't thought of it that way. This will probably be the last new manual for me as well, but that WDC seems so enticing. I see what you mean as far as extras that the hard core enthusiast really doesn't need, and in the long term, your probably better off w/out the SR. I very well may do the same. Do you think adding a short shift mod will actually make the manual even better or is it fine as is? Love the Seb Loeb reference.
@@LordHolley Thanks for the insight. will test drive asap!
Excited to see reviews of cars I could actually afford. Thanks a lot and keep em coming!
The reality is this-7500 miles in 3 months and I still love getting in and driving it. The Sound is a riot and the tight steering makes cornering a blast. For $35k-there’s not a lot out there much more fun than this.
Why this over GR86?
@@andrewrossnagel9433 Too low on power and zero practicality !
@@andrewrossnagel9433 more than likely space, practicality and livability. Thats one thing about the GR86, cant really stack a bunch of things into it. (i tried to fit one in to go to the beach, ultimately i had to take my fiestaST instead) My FiestaST has more space
@@andrewrossnagel9433 I’m not sure it would compare just because 2-door vs. 4 door, but the 86/BRZ would definitely be up there in the “Fun” department. They were both built to be toys-and that’s cool.
@@NeverlandRancher Makes sense. I am looking for a daily and was set on the 86 but this is interesting.
Great review! Absolutely love my Elantra N. I have the Intense Blue which in my opinion makes the front end looks a little bit more subtle.
I have a 22' manuel transmission and i love it. I know the dct is faster but rowing your gears in is car is a blast
I just picked up an Elantra N and love it! I was a vw guy but they drove me away from even looking at a Golf with their huge mistakes on the new infotainment system. Thanks for the great review!
I just acquired one of these gems, the Kona N.
I'm thinking about swapping my MT Crosstrek for a Kona N. Gotta measure the rear cargo area to see if it's big enough lol.
@@thabrownieviking cargo area is pretty small but for the price it’s so hard to go wrong I just drop the right side rear seat if I need the room 🤷♂️
How is the Kona N suspension in soft mode going over potholes and bumps in the road? Does it feel too stiff in soft mode?
Any regrets?
@@mr2turbo12 no regrets at all the stiffness only becomes an issue on consistently bad roads… and that’s rare where I am … a lot of the issues is not really a issue if u drive slower 🤷♂️ single pot holes aren’t too bad but multiple in a row is rediculous but the fun I have with this car makes me look way pass that… absolutely no regrets 11k miles in
@@DriverJ-N Sounds good...Can't wait to take one on a test drive. I would also think downsizing to 18's with a 45 sidewall tire would also help smooth out the ride.
Well it is a little funny what he is saying about the looks of the car, it was my initial hangup. I got the DCT and went with black on black colors which definitely hides some of those funny lines. With dark tint and ceramic coating I think looks quite sexy. Now that i have owned it for several months I can say with confidence, I absolutely love the car! It has exceeded my expectations. Anybody thinking about getting one, don't hesitate.....
Anyone else hear the scream at 10:03? 😂
your video you put out of the other one made me start saving for one and I'm glad this video just reinforced that decision! i cant wait!
Was that Zack screaming during the drive by shot??? LMAO
0-60 in 280hp FWD just as quick as in 400hp RWD E39 M5.
Autotragics
@@FATmenDRIVEtrucks
M5 - 1695kg, 275mm rear tire.
N - 1496kg, 245 front tire.
200kg lighter, but 120hp less powah.
@@FATmenDRIVEtrucks
N is 12% lighter than M5
M5 is 42% stronger than N
Still FWD on "siknny" tires.
@@FATmenDRIVEtrucks Gravity? Gravity has nothing to do with it.
@@FATmenDRIVEtrucks stronger meaning?
Putting the exhaust noise the the TCR race car mode is just 👌
Hyundai has been killing it lately with their performance cars, along with Honda and Toyota. This looks like a great car, and probably the more refined choice compared to the Veloster N. My guess is that the new Type R will best the Elantra N, but it's also going to be more expensive and the markups are sure to be insane.
>hyundai
>killing it lately
go back.
@@Weimerica8841 Killing their transmissions. That 10/100,000 mile warranty isn't out of the kindness of their hearts. LOL
@@RAZGR1Z oh but it is…..
While their N line seems to be doing good, the company has had many serious recalls across their whole lineup in the last year. New class action just the other day. I'd somewhat agree they have been killing it design wise, but the quality, mechanical wise, doesn't seem to be much different than the typical Hyundai iffy quality.
Bought my 2015 Kia Sorento in March of 2017 and have had problems with it pretty much right away. Started with my key fob. The driver door does not recognize my key fob and I have to either open the passenger door to unlock my car or hit the fob multiple times before the driver's door opens. I've replaced the batteries and it hasn't helped. My alternator dies at 66K miles, which I thought was ridiculous. I called Kia to see if they would grant any good will since I was out of warranty and they did nothing. Claimed they couldn't help since I was the 2nd owner.
Fantastic point about the width of the seat base. I tried out the i30n with the N Light seats here in Australia, and i felt like i was sitting ontop of the thigh bolsters - and i am by no means a large guy. I consider this a bit of a deal breaker, as i think the standard cloth seats that we get here just don't cut it. I'm buying a GR Yaris instead.
I daily drive a tuned 2020 Elantra Sport 6 speed MT. Absolutely love it.
I love the way Front Grill looks. I dont know why so many people don't like it
Just got my space black Elantra N this past Friday...black looks so good in person btw as I ordered the car sight unseen. It's so much fun even though I'm babying it until 1000kms. Coming from driving a truck and work van this things feels so planted and quick. Can't wait for the break in to be over!
What did you pay OTD?
I don’t think the front looks bad. Black on black definitely works. Maybe wrapping except for the black grill part would do the trick.
Albert Biermann also gave the EV6 the same top speed as the Porsche Taycan Turbo S.
Over 20,000 rpm.
that warranty really makes this an interesting prospect
You're not controlling the burble tune through the entertainment settings. That's only controlling the pumped in audio. It's off by default in the normal N mode and can only be enabled in the custom setting. The exhaust setting controls the pops and bangs and they only happen in full sport+.
What a coincidence, this morning I just got an invite Hyundai to drive N cars at Laguna Seca. I'm thinking of going since I plan to buy one.
The Elantra N is way more hardcore than the Civic Si. It competes more with the Type R tbh.
Seeing it in person the car and front is very nice. My pB DCT is on its way to my dealership
10 year viewer. Love this channel more than ever
I had a 2020 Elantra Sport turbo and loved it.
Love the KONA N looking forward to hearing your opinions
I believe Matt & I are about the same size & I'd love for the steering wheel in my Forte GT to come out 1 more inch as well. Seems like a small gripe but it would definitely make the driving experience better.
Love the seats. They are comfortable for me at 180 lbs. Don't mind the front and have not had anyone say different
Love the videos best with you both 🔥
At 6’8 I also struggle with cars not having enough telescopic range on the steering wheel. I drive a MK7 Golf and my legs have plenty of room when I move the seat all the way back, but I have a hard time reaching the top of the steering wheel.
The Elantra N-Line is faster than an Si. This is a whole other level.
So a type r would be a better competitor
@@mdogzino yeah but they are in two different price points!
Barely. My Si is 6.1 and 9 years old 2013. It also has a sunroof that the Elantra needs. If US manuals had a sunroof I’d consider buying one cause they are pretty cool.
@@galacticresidue9596 yeah but then Honda made em slower after for some reason 😂 the DCT got 4.8 seconds to 60 according to C&D and comes with a moon roof. That's almost 2 seconds faster than the '22 Civic, I would say performance wise they're in different classes. I myself don't care too much about 0-60 or a moon roof, though it'd be nice to have, so 6 spd it is.
@@joshisthebestwooha20 I agree I could probably settle for no sunroof! It’s just the fact that it’s a Hyundai that kinda bothers me lmao
Awesome vid guys! Any chance you'll be taking a look at the i20N/i30N?
side note: was awesome hearing Matt on 2B1C today, sounds like alot of effort behind the scenes to get that all sorted for Tom, what an awesome friend.
sadly don't think those are sold in the usa. I wish I could get an i30 wagon here.
I'm interested in Kona N. Especially how much more room do you get with Kona over Veloster. Imo they more similar then different on the interior space. Just taller packaging.
the icing on the cake is that 10 year drivetrain warranty
I’ve had my 2022 Elantra Hybrid for 6 months and I love it. Obviously not the same as the N but a very nice car with lots of features and more comfortable seats in the Limited trim. I’ve also gotten over 50 mpg in some commuting type situations.
I have a lexus ct200h and want an Elantra N (car guy and finally old enough to afford something fast) but my buddy got an Elantra hybrid.
I drive a lot and i'd have a hard time giving up 40+ mpg
So great to hear people like these guys talk highly about a Hyundai and an N product… love my Veloster N.
Great review guys! I'll be waiting for your Kona N review, since I want this to be my next daily.
Interested in hearing your thoughts about the suspension in soft mode and it it's fine for a daily or too stiff.
I just got mine yesterday. Normal mode is like my stock GTI suspension. Maybe a tiny bit firmer.
I've had mine for a bit over a month now I think, approaching 1500 miles. It's pretty stiff but fine as a daily, depending on your tolerance for it at least. I'm coming from a 2008 Mini w/sport suspension and it feels comparable (maybe a bit rougher) so I was kinda used to that type of ride.
I think the middle setting is the best, might be a little harder (not entirely sure there) but the big difference is that it basically dampens out all the bounciness present in the lowest setting. I haven't bothered with the hardest setting since testing it out on the long way home from the dealer, can't see using that one except on perfectly smooth road/track.
One last thing to keep in mind (from what I vaguely remember reading) is that the seats are supposedly more livable than the ones in the other N models, so that probably helps a bit.
@@japtor you keep it on sport suspension? That’s the middle setting?
@@1209MArky Looking at the video here it's Normal/Sport/Sport+, so yeah Sport. I used to swap between Normal and Sport as part of how my N custom modes were set up, but once I noticed how bouncy Normal was (or conversely, how much more composed Sport was) I switched it to Sport for both custom modes.
@@japtor interesting. I only used normal or N. Haven’t tried sport mode. I’m surprised sport is better,
Great review, although I totally disagree with the opinion regarding the car’s look. I think it looks magnificent all the way around, like a road assassin. The Performance Blue matches perfectly with the black nose and red trim.
Just an FYI- VW has already updated the chipset and software in the Golf. Autogefuhl just posted a new vid and Thomas was impressed.
What you're talking about with the display panels is an OLED vs LCD panel. An OLED will be very black and vivid, much better than most LCD's. OLED's do experience burn-in which could be an issue down the line for repairability. I still kinda think most cars in 2022 should have OLED.
its a shame we dont get that car here in europe.
i would trade my i30N Fastback for an Elantra N immediately
Props to the guy @5:25 cranking out those watts
I was so excited to drive the N, it was perfect in every way but one. I just could not live with the seats, too aggressive. Went and bought a GTI instead, I am thrilled with it.
Been waiting on this one
Man. I might want to trade in my v60 CC for this. This seems like a good mix of fun and practicality
I feel like the V60 CC has a nice plush ride compared to this. I'd take it for a long test drive before committing.
@@mr2turbo12 it does, and you’re right. It’s a comfort machine but is so boring to drive. I’ve previously had a genesis coupe too so Hyundai’s comfort is pretty decent for the money I think.
I for one love the front. Many people seem to hate it but i love it…i cant be the only one
10:04-10:22
Just like how you guys have mentioned in another video, that speed is starting to become synthetic due to EV’s being faster than anything ICE and easy to get behind and drive, I think that transmissions are also becoming very synthetic as well. Just like you mentioned that having these dual-clutched transmissions in normal “everyday” vehicles, is just as good of a feeling of connectivity as an race cars and high priced vehicles, that’s making these cars feel…boring, hence synthetic. This is why manual transmissions will always be favored as the choice for pure connective fun. Each vehicles manual transmission feels different than another’s. It also can be modified to become personal in feel and connectivity. A dual clutch on a car that is tuned, feels very much the same as another vehicles tuned dual clutch.
So what I’m saying is though dual clutches are faster, they just aren’t as special…
Wish the design was not so overwhelming, sounds like a really good package for the price
In Canada, we have the sunroof with either manuel or automatic transmission.
I wanted one of these cars. Could not find one for any where msrp. Ended up buying Toyota GR86 premium, which we love, for sticker. Great review guys.
You got the better car.
Once they do the Kona N - the only answer I want is which of the 3 they would buy for themselves - Kona N, Veloster N or Elantra N if that were their options.
I tried to look this up but the DCT clutch pads are wear and tear and generally NOT covered under powertrain.
“How ‘tall’ are you?” That my friends, is a euphemism for a particular herd of people who tend to complain about seats that nobody else complains about. :/
I hope you do another video with the 6spd and then both of you should do a canyon cruise to compare both.
Nice to see Adam LZ driving in this episode...
Can't wait to see the Corolla GR on here
Zack’s mustache just getting better and better
still driving a honda ek and this is my dream car
I think the front is great that you do not have to worry about rock chips when you take it to track
Is the inside of the trunk lid hollow? I hope it’s hollow. I could keep stuff in there like paper towels.
In Puerto Rico is only the manual available and have sunroof my friend. 🔥🔥
lmao, the other day I saw a picture of the elantra n and it was from a weird head-on angle that made it look like a baby blue venom mask
lol at the "Livin' On The Edge" reference
Same, Matt's F'n down to 🌎!!! Legit he's on some other wavelength.
We love the look of this car.
Dubstep setting 😂
God I love Klapman
now we wanna see yall take one to an autoX or Trackday
Kona N and Elantra N are awesome machines and are my favorite performance N models from Hyundai
I like the way it looks
i know they are almost the same car, but yall got a Kona N review coming up? (fudge, you cover this at the end XD - thank you!)
Awesome review but l felt the car would bottom out at most road imperfections. Did it feel like that?
Sounds like you need the firmer setting if it's truly bottoming out.
Was that a saxophone at 10:00 or something coming from the engine bay?
People either hate or love the front of the car, I don't think I've seen anyone in between. Personally, I absolutely love it and everything else about the car
This is a beautiful car. I think people don't like it because it's ahead of its time, design wise.
I went to go test fit this car as well, the interior didn't quite look all that nice in terms of overall quality and I'm in between Matt and Zack in terms of width although as tall as Matt and I didn't quite find them comfortable and the same issue the wheel not telescoping far enough. Another note is this comes with the integrated wheel bearing/axel it's one unit so if those ever bust you have to replace the whole unit with the cost of both in long term ownership. I assume this is a high wear part because fwd enthusiast vehicle.
If I owned the vehicle, I would black out the red accents and wrap the black girl with some body matching blue and it would need steering wheel extension, later better seats.
The interior is awesome, what are you on about?
Zack, keep the stache. It works for you
Why'd you say the automatic was the only option on this car at 2:05? It has a manual option, which I believe is the superior option. You guys actually mention that later in the vid at 2:45, but it's a bit of a confusing statement early on at the first time reference point. Maybe an editing error?
They meant that the manual was the “base” model and the only other “option” to choose was the DCT
I don't think this car should be compared to gti/gli because it's so much better than any of those but at the same time can't be compared to type R/golf R because these two are slightly better. Elantra N it's kinda of a lone wolf
Great review guys! Also love to see Matt’s respect and awareness for the cyclist. Allowing everyone to safely & responsibly enjoy these awesome roads 🙌
When Zack took his shades odd at 13:50 I thought he was going to pull a gun and start shouting put down your weapon, stand down. That moustache is powerful.
You have quite the imagination
Woo, you weren't lying about that frontend.
13:15 The front of the car receives a substantial redesign for 2014 that is much more appealing, also better looking wheels IMO. Other styling changes are minor.
sun roof comes with manual also in Canada
Yes but Canada comes with Trudeau
I’m really digging Zacks moustache, don’t know why first thing I noticed.
automatic is the only option available? it comes in a 6 speed manual too right?
8:17 IT SHOOTS FIRE!
I think it's the sunlight? I have had a lot of people follow me at speed at night and no flames yet?
@@zxmurph1 The shadow that's cast indicates the sun is behind the hill. The pop you hear also suggests it was in fact, fire.
Surprised you guys did not get the 6 speed manual, but I guess if it's the only cost-added option, you might as well.
Press cars are usually loaded.
We asked for the manual but it was not available during the week we needed the car.
Why get the manual ?! It's slower...get the best I say !
@@patrickbilodeau3785 people like you should buy the DCT because you clearly do not understand why people prefer manual. Its about the experience, not speed.
@@patrickbilodeau3785 at the same time, few opportunities exist in daily life to convert the potential of a DCT into reality while at least with a manual you know more or less that you're getting the most out of it in more situations.
Nice side profile, but front and rear need some changes.
Klapman in full Sabatoge mode… Killer!
The only people complaining about N cars are the ones who don’t have one.
Zach represent that classic stach.