I legit went to the dealership and asked for a test drive in Elantra N. Literally on the same day of test driving, I ordered one. I was blown away about how good this car drives.
You know, I get the value proposition here and respect that Hyundai hired Albert Biermann from BMW. But at the end of the day, you still have a cheap Korean sedan with low-rent interior that's FWD. It's time for you guys to take off your Beer goggles. 😂
FYI, that rear brace is very easy to remove (I have a video on it). These cars are seriously no joke and the front diff is so smart it can make even the slowest driver fast as hell on track....truly the bee's knees
@@savagegeese oh for sure, but I'm just saying that if you knew you needed to fill the car ahead of time, you can take it out in under a couple mins to achieve that.
Hearing and seeing Mark's shock and awe and admissions of brand-prejudice is something all of us have felt for a while with Hyundai and N. Its great to see it cemented in this video and the chops on the track. You guys looked great out there.
100%. The look on his face when hammering it is one thing. The fact that he backed off to let it cool down is another: that’s respect for the machine. No higher praise than that.
GT350 and Elantra N owner here. I bought the EN for my “fun” daily without driving or seeing one. The car really blew me away and continues to blow away my car friends that are used to 600hp+ cars. Extremely capable little car out of the box. I’d say my EN is 70% capable of doing what my GT350 can do when it comes to driving dynamics and handling on the corners.
Really good to hear from a muscle car owner that has a en too. I've had a bunch of muscle cars before the kids and then went with focus st, then 2.0 accord(they never satisfied the way muscle does). This car has my eyes all over it and I think it'll check all my boxes being it'll be my only car. Just worried about winter lol. Ty have a great day
It's more fun to drive slower car fast! The GT350 has higher limits on almost every performance aspects but you normally don't use them all. The EN, rip all day!
@@fortheloveofnoise I think he's saying he just blows by unsuspecting V8s and farts on them. Or it could also be a Dodge where theyre just super heavy and spin the wheels alot.
As an N-thusiast (huehuehue) hearing you guys praise this car has made my friday! Really glad hyundai in the end was able to cobble together all their previous attempts at an enthusiast product and create this beast of a car
I've already done 5 trackdays since I got my Elantra N in January. This car is super capable even in its stock form and it can hang with some fast cars on the track. I ran 1:58 at Sonoma Raceway just with yokohama a052 tires and I know I can go faster next time. This car is so much fun to drive!
Hyundai is one of the coolest brands out there these days, and that’s crazy to say but goddamn they found their groove and make some fucking awesome stuff now
There is no other company in the world that makes the perfect car. All car brands have problems Hyundai Motor Company's durability and quality are well-received compared to them.
Exactly. When the video started, I was like "oh such a beautiful car, nice sound - but now these guys will Roger is right left and center " :-D But they loved it ... hyundai has done it. CHEERS!! I personally love Kia, Hyundai and Genesys for what they are doing with design and performance. Making the Germans sit up and think. BTW I personally drive a Jag, because I couldn't find a Stinger in my budget 🙃
I owned three Hyundai products and will never buy another. The 2004 Santa Fe was flawless but the 2010 was a total lemon and the 2012 Elantra I decided to give them a second chance with started actively falling apart by 90,000 miles.
@@dark6c159 I had an 07 V6 Sonata, original owner and drove it 485,000 KMS on original everything incl starter and alternator before I got rid of it. Only basic maintenance items ever changed. My current 08 Elantra beater has 300+ k KMS on it and still driving like a champ. Hyundai had big problems with their 2L engines from 2010- pretty recent due to some oil passage problems of some sort because of their engine manufacturer. But I mean, they have that 10 yr 100k mile warranty in the U.S still if anything happens so it's not like they aren't owning up to it.
One thing to note while you guys were under the car was the front lower control arms. They now have bracing on them compared to the Veloster N that has none. Us VN guys have an aftermarket option to buy a set of braces to bolt on to our cars. Crazy because it feels like the engineers do follow what we're doing with our cars and seeing if they can improve upon it. Another thing VN guys complained about was the Pirelli PZ4 tires as the more driving enthusiasts guys bought PS4S and it was a much better tire. They legitimately listened to our complaints and now, Elantra N comes with PS4S! It's honestly crazy how they are observing and listening to the community on making the next gen product better. That's why the Elantra N is a much more impressive car than the Veloster N for Mark to drive on track.
One thing I'll say, I wanted to get a civic si (new), but my local dealer had so many hidden fees the car ended up being $42,000. Down here in Texas I have yet to find a single dealership selling any of these hot economy cars anywhere close to MSRP. It's a joke. For a couple thousand more I bought an ss 1le, which you CAN get at msrp. I'd like to see this being brought to attention
Saw an Si for sale on autotrader for 48k and laughed. Ordered my Performance Blue DCT Elantra N for 29.5k had to wait 2 months but at that price point its unbeatable.
Been waiting to hear Mark and Jack's take on this car because they were practically the only reviewers who didn't fall all over themselves anointing the Veloster N the King of the Hot Hatches. So if they say the Elantra N is legit, I believe them.
I've been waiting for this one. I have 1,500 miles on my DCT and love it. Incredibly fun and surprisingly very practical. I'm coming from a Fiesta ST so from my perspective it's... much better as a daily driver in terms of comfort and refinement. And unlike the GTI it has physical buttons for everything important (though it can't compete with the Civic interior, although I ruled out the new Si just based on it not having heated seats). I just wish it was a wagon or hatch.
Also came from a Fiesta ST. Been having a blast with my MT EN. Obviously not as raw as the FiST but just as raucous and with a higher performance envelope. The refinement is a welcome change after 7 wonderful years and 115,000 smile filled miles with the ST.
@@Acs2046 all you do is comment on Hyundai and Kia videos. Which competitor do you work for? Tbh, the issues with the theta engines were really bad. On the flip side however, that’s really the only engine in the last 20+ years that’s needed a big recall for catastrophic engine failure. All of the other engines are solid provided you maintain them well.
It was great. I've only rarely seen him fling a car through the corners like he does this one. It's obvious he can place it precisely, with both ends doing what he expects.
@@richardnavratil9661 yes all my cars are Manuel and I’m in my 60s. Not planning any autos in my future . Funny folks think it’s outdated . It adds pleasure and interaction.
Hearing their shock at the driving characteristics reminds me of my dad's reaction to my 8th gen civic Si, he never understood the small 4 popper till he revved one out. Kind of feel like Hyundai is what Honda was.
The 8th gen Si ruined me for other cars. It set the bar so high in all regards that I struggled to find another car that felt so good. In my heart it is an exotic car.
@@hammychan1 I had a 2007 Civic Si that I traded for a 240Z and currently have a 91 MR2 turbo and an Elantra N. The Si was SO MUCH FUN to drive compared to those cars. The endless increasing torque curve to 8400rpm was just fantastic. The Elantra N doesn't rev as high but holy shit is it still more fun to drive than the Si. I still miss my Si, though. :)
I purchased my Elantra N in February and have zero regrets. Stiff suspension doesn't bother me. Everything about the car has been fantastic. I have the DCT and test drove the manual. I truly feel like the DCT takes this car to the next level. (Don't kill me. I love manuals, drove them most of my life, but this is really what I experienced)
Makes sense, a year into ownership of my E92 M3 6mt i basically came to the same conclusion; that the DCT was the move. Between the lightning fast shifts, shorter gearing + extra 7th gear it really put the car on another level the 6mt couldn’t compete on. Plus it wasnt like the manual transmission was super special or anything so not like it made it up with amazing feeling and engagement, it had really long gearing and long notchy throws just like a regular non M BMW, and was not well matched to the low torque peaky high rpm nature of the 4L V8 that needed to live in the top end to really make power.
I don’t understand the hate of it being a daily driver. I got mine two weeks ago and had to drive it home seven hours. The interior is so clean and nice to me and it’s just amazing! It’s a track car but put it into eco mode and I feels like a normal car. I have wanted this car since day one and I’m only two weeks in to owning it and my face has a big ass dumb smile every time I see it or get in and drive. Good on gas when I want it and quick as hell when I want it. Hyundai nailed it!
I really appreciate how much time and effort into these videos. They are exactly what I'm looking for in a car review. Especially all the technical details you provide.
It's so comical to behold Mark baptized into Albert Biermann witness, a proper N man! Been waiting for this one (car), hope you'll get a DCT as well and compare the two, because it is an insanely good package for the price!
This is one of those cars you MUST go see and test drive. It’s an absolute blast to drive, and incredibly fun for a daily driver. Love my Elantra N! Great review!
One of the TCR drivers took me for a couple laps around Road Atlanta in this back in January. Stock car in the wet and it was unbelievably good. I knew y'all would get there eventually 😁
1. 2016. Wanted R. Settled for FIST. 2. Spent R type $ on FIST parts. Doh. Fast FIST. Still not R. 2. Hunted R for five years waiting for hype to die down. Did not die down. 3. N Veloster. N or R? R. 4. N Elantra. 5. This video. 5. Searched inventory after video. Found one gray manual in range. 6. Drove immediatly there and purchased. 7. Miss my FIST, the N is two feet and 500 lbs. larger, but two-three generations ahead of the mk. 7 Fiesta in every way. 8. N win.
Wow my story as well! But I am looking for that power the FiST had with FBO+Hybrid turbo. Currently daily a ‘22 Si, it’s a super nice daily but that it. It’s not sports car, I think the EN may be the par for the course:-)
53 year old sport compact enthusiast since 1983, Gti,WRX,ST,RS,Si, this is the most entertaining daily I have ever owned. Performance Blue 6-spd, figuring it could likely be the last new manual trans I may ever buy-- just couldn't let that go. It's notable that when you have previously put nearly 200k miles on two Fiesta ST dailies, this thing feels like a massive upgrade, with a relatively plush ride in "normal" modes...........Curiously the response to the appearance, especially the color has been overwhelmingly positive- I am sure I am not hearing from any haters, but it is undeniably a car the looks quite different in person. Personally I think it looks striking and performance focused, with sure, more than a little bit of juvenile "because racecar" theater--- that's ok- all this shit keeps me young-- I will take bold styling over some homogenized safe "german sports sedan knock-off" look anytime......... Also It's curious to see here how much "Ford's automotive or lack thereof business plan" paid off.😂One former Fist owner after another gone to the N....
How do you like it compared to the Fiesta ST in terms of fun? It's obviously much nicer inside, quieter, more comfortable, better tech etc. The Fiesta ST is an absolute riot to drive on a tight twisty back road though. How does the extra 400lbs of weight and longer wheelbase effect the fun to drive nature?
@@jjchockey All of the relatively "nice stuff" in the N does nothing to diminish any fun. Sure, the pure light, tossable nature of the Fist was fantastic, and its size makes me think about how fun an i20 N must be. That said, I think the Elantra strikes a good balance in having all the pure rowdiness I want, along with an unexpected but welcome level of refinement. So think of it as all of the fun of the ST, along with heaping levels more of both livability AND speed.
Great review! My wife told me I needed a car with back seats for the baby that's coming. So I told her I'm buying a Korean economy car. Picked up my black EN DCT last week and it's such a fun car. Can't wait for a track day!
Didn't always used to be that way. Take a look at the 2018 Elantra sport. That car's body in this car's drivetrain would be perfection for me for an economy fwd sport sedan. But somewhere after that they went triangle crazy.
I’m kinda old and no stranger when it comes to sport compacts. My very first was a used, beat-to-shit 1991 Nissan Sentra SE-R. I’ve owned an Mk5 and MK7 VW GTI, as well an 8th-gen and 10th-gen Civic Si. Now the proud papa of an Elantra N with a stick, mercifully sold to me at sticker price by some good folks in Omaha. My God, this thing does everything in italics. From the fantastic seats to the quickness to the unbelievably fun and raucous exhaust while blasting down the road in N mode, it’s an all-around blast. The only time I’ve had more fun in a car was when I drove a Ferrari F430 on that track outside of Las Vegas. If I had to nitpick, I’d say some of the interior plastics are crap and the front end resembles a catfish. But really, all is forgotten when you get behind the wheel. I’ll be holding on to this car for dear life as we brace for our inevitable and silent electric future.
Awesome review!!!! Awesome car!!! Hats off to Hyundai for giving the car enthusiast what they are looking for. To help with the stiffness I'd just change the wheel and tire combo...but at this price point it comes with everything and lacks nothing.
This is a huge win. There are gimmicks and gizmos for the poseurs but there is actual real content for those interested in driving. Kudos Hyundai .. now .. if this was brought as a hatchback (i30/Elantra GT N) I would seriously consider it.
It is definitely a win. Though one my ask how big is the market for a hardcore front wheel drive at this price point. Obviously the GTI is most likely less sharp but I would be curious to know how many buyers of a hot hatch (I would put the N in this category) are really tracking their car.
Had an AWD 2017 Fusion Sport loved the suprising speed and the way that drove, but I drove the Elantra N once and now the Fusion is gone… I definitely sacrificed some speed but the N just hugs corners so well and to me even being the smaller car I find the back seat and cockpit to be more roomy with less pressure points for my knees… plus the 6-spd … driving the N makes me smile.
I think the perspective on the interior is all subjective. I went from a 10th generation Civic to the Elantra N, and at least for me I find Hyundai's layout and interior to make more sense. The widescreen display alone is light years beyond Honda, I had so much lag and crashing with the Civic infotainment. I have never, ever had an infotainment system so responsive and frankly so gorgeous. Apple Car Play, albeit wired, is amazing as well. I drive 110 miles a day for work, and the only thing I can ding the Elantra N on is the seat comfort, but that was a trade off I was willing to make because you are locked into that seat in turns and you are going nowhere. As far as cheap plastics go...every car I've ever had felt like it had areas with cheap plastics. There's enough alcantara to make up for some of the softer plastics, and to the people with complaints: it's a performance car, not a luxury vehicle. Cannot wait to eventually get this thing on the track.
The newest Honda infotainment systems are much improved, but Hyundai/Kia has always done their systems extremely well. They're still as easy to use as any out there, and a little quicker than what Honda offers. Unlike in the past, I don't consider the infotainment a negative for the Civic anymore, just not the positive the Elantra's is.
The Veloster N was a good drivers car for the money. It also laid down a good lap time in C&D Lightning Lap for its price point. Cant wait to see how much faster the Elantra N is on the Lightning Lap board... I just have no desire or need for a car the size or style of the Elantra. I have to be that guy who loves the i20N that we will never see here.
The front facia black out treatments make the car more appealing IMO - I've never been a fan of the grill styling. I can recall when the Veloster N was released and all the good press it received, its clear a lot of that DNA found its way into this car. Looks like an absolute hoot to drive. Make mine a manual please 😎
Instead of a face with eyes and mouth, this looks like a masked (or maybe bearded lol) villain or ninja. Just wish those sharp triangles on the side wasnt a thing :S
This is one car I’ve been dying to see you review and it was great to hear your thoughts on it. Maybe someday I’ll have one in the ‘rage. Thank you very much, Gooseman.
Had one of these in my run group at a track day (Waterford Hills) and yes, it's dummy fast owner claims it was running mid 1:19's, for perspective a good lap in my 3rd gen MX-5 on Indy 500 tires runs a low 1:21 I was blown away to learn it had 500 miles and had no mods too
Impressive how the car performed. these reviews are awesome. The SI is not the right competition for this car. The SI on both price and power compares better to the N-line
Between this and the Kona N you just reviewed, I am shocked but delighted to see how much you enjoyed the N’s driving experience. I have issues with the styling and odd color, but you peaked my interest.
I had the standard Elantra as a rental car for a few months. It was amazing. Felt like an old 3 Series. I cannot imagine how awesome the N version must be to drive.
1/6th of my current miles are track miles. This car is amazing, and legit needs NOTHING to take to the track and rip at HPDE4+/instructor pace all day long.
I subscribe to my Korea friend who commented below on RUclips and he is a track monster in So Cal with his Elantra N. Thank you for the honest and great review. I agree with everything you said about the N on the track. I replaced my 2015 A4 with my Elantra N and I like it much better as a daily than the Audi. You are the only reviewers who gave the sound a negative comment. Most of us love the exhaust pops/crackles and burbles. I knew the N was going to leave a grin on your face when you tracked it.
Not sure how this video ended up in my recommended feed but it sure makes me happy to see. I’m not remotely a car guy and I drive a 2010 Elantra GLS. I just learned recently that those things had a 8.7 second 0-60 time from the factory. I had a friend who was a huge muscle car bro and he spent an extended period of time trying to convince me to sell my Elantra and get something track-capable despite having no desire to do so. Learning that, theoretically, I could replace it with another more differenter Elantra and have a chance of beating his Mustang put the biggest grin on my face.
I love my Elantra N. I’m always amazed how f’ing fast this thing is and it rides on rails. I love the stiffness for daily driving and the exhaust note just kicks a$$. I had a bmw 330ci and Audi A7 before this and believe it or not I like the N better than both of them. Plus, it’s practical so I can fit the wifey and my two girls in it no problem. High marks for this car.
I was born in 1998 so have no nostalgia bias of a stick shift. This DCT is exactly what I want. I was looking for a small car that is sporty to pair with my 2011 Ford ranger work horse. My family has owned 4 Hyundai's and although my sister abuses her Sonata after crashing her Sante Fe her car runs fine. I had an Accent which I drove for 3 years and sold for 70% of what I paid for it. Mom had a Tucson in the top trim option so I already have love in my heart for this awesome Korean company ❤ As a 23 year old who loves attention the pops on N mode make me Grin 😀 😄
I was born in 1995... it's not about nostalgia, it's about the enjoyment....a sports car without a manual transmission is boring..ide rather eat a bullet than own another automatic or anything besides a real manual.
I watched this video when first posted. Revisited today to refresh just become my Nephew just bought the exact car-color and 6 speed manual yesterday. Looking forward to checking it out in the flesh.
Great video, excellent overview. I really like how Hyundai didn't just slap more power into it but actually addressed the details to make that power accessible with the chassis, thank you for going over all of that. Glad to see Hyundai is now catering to the blind enthusiast market. I mean... I -want- to like this car but it's just so ugly I'd have to drive it in the dark. -sigh- If they get their design language figured out this bodes well for the next generation of N cars.
Hyundai has taken the Front wheel Drive sport car segment by storm. I dont know how they did it but they did. It is a hell of lot of fun and blows Honda, VW out the water.
@@MeltingRubberZ28 what time do you run on the Nurburgring? Numerous reviewers have all said that while yes the CTR is faster on the clock, the VN is more fun. The EN builds on that with an upgraded turbocharger and a new chassis.
Especially on price. If I want luxury I'll buy a used Lexus. I feel like that's my biggest issue with modern BMWs, I love my 328i, but in spite of the moderate attempt at luxury features weighing it down.
@@JacesOwnWorld Mostly what I got. It's an e90 so it was cheaper, but my point being luxury features undercut or work against the driving experience. Luxury = weight
Yess. I have been waiting for this video for a while now.You are guys amazing .I can only say that ;every car you suggested and I bought it become one of the best decisions I have made. Mazda 3 2015 ,now Elantra 2022. Everything you are saying is true. That specific humorous accent is also always nice to hear, a bit of missing Mr Turbowski though.
I have the manual 2021 i30N hatch here in Australia and it’s amazingly fun to drive. I liken it to an MX5/Miata of hot hatches; there may be faster or more serious cars, but the N cars just find a perfect blend of performance and fun for the price point. I’m still surprised I enjoy my N more than other cars I’ve owned that most enthusiasts would put ahead of it such as an Evo X, Focus RS, STi and GR Yaris. It shouldn’t be this good, but it’s more than the sum of its parts.
@@Vision33r yeah but what’s great about it is that the N doesn’t let the newer tech bog it down and numb the driving experience. Rather, it amplifies it and still manages to make the drive engaging and mechanical.
@@Vision33r it’s only a couple of years newer than most of those cars so other than Apple CarPlay the tech is pretty similar. The reason I find it more fun is that it is fun to drive at normal road speeds, a lot of performance cars at this price point, particularly all wheel drive cars (not the Yaris so much) feel heavy and numb until you’re driving them at 9 or 10/10s, and by that time you’re in jail territory speed wise. They also lack character and sound out of the box with nerfed exhausts that make them sound like sewing machines until you put an aftermarket exhaust on. The N sounds awesome out of the box. Hyundai also include track warranty for non time events, so they believe in their product being used for what it was designed for. Anyway, this is just my experience, I enjoyed all of the cars I mentioned plus others I’ve had, I’d just encourage others who may snub the N because “it’s a Hyundai” to check it out. Albert really worked some magic on these and hopefully they can continue the momentum now he’s retired and I believe now in a consulting/advisory role.
Elephant in the room. they wouldn't dare because it comes down to price point. they still have hard on's for the type r and wouldn't dare put the idea that it's a better option because of price point. This car is literally 9-11k cheaper and does 95% of what a Civic Type R can do both on track and on street and on some courses tracks better.
Final thoughts you forgot to mention overall GTI interior is nicer... but it still doesn't have buttons which the Elantra N has the perfect number of buttons which is super important to me. I would have bought a new GTI but the controls look like a nightmare.
I was cross shopping gti and this and got into fb group for that car. Group was riddled with bugs from infotainment hindering numerous key features for that car for so many folks. So those are not just inconvenient its super buggy. Major cost cutting
@@shrijanaryal4923 I've been hearing that. No excuse for that at all - just bad testing or inadequate development time by VW. It's a silly interior that has no advantages at all.
Yeah they might have been comparing it to Jack’s GTI which is an MK7. The interior of that car is pretty much perfect, it’s sad they just didn’t keep it similar.
It's cool to see Mark actually enjoying driving again. These guys put in a LOT of hours on making content, would hate to see them get burnt out. Don't know where I'd find content made for car nerds, by car nerds.
I'm really glad Mark got to drive something new that finally excited him again. I feel like we may have just seen him gain another 3 years of tolerance for the automotive journalism space just on the hope of another car like this being made.
At first glance this car doesn't look all that well, but once you start looking at it with a detailed eye the Elantra N starts looking way better in my opinion.
One of the guys in our sports car club bought one of these got some stickier rubber and autocross' this thing and it is amazing! This is a great package and Hyundai should get credit for making this car!
Least interesting fact about this video: I never dreamed of appearing in one of the SG videos, but at 6:20, that guy with the pink flower wallpaper - that’s me at work… Thanks for your great channel and for the technical details without forgetting the fun behind cars!
I've never seen a manufacturer growing as fast as Hyundai did in the past 10 years. They make one hell of a statement with their N cars and are very competitive. This brilliant front differential should absolutely make its way in the Sonata N Line and Kia K5 GT. Now i'm wondering when Mazda is going to put their head out of the clouds and bring the Mazdaspeed back.
Don't expect it. They might make some quick cars, but they won't be as raw as the Mazdaspeeds, and definitely road cars, not track cars. They're trying to compete with Acura and Lexus, plus the cheaper European luxury cars.
@@markmiller3279 It shouldn't be hard to compete. Those cars are style over substance and cost an arm and a leg to service. Literally anybody who makes a semi-decent car should be kicking them up and down the street because all they ride on is brand recognition Mazda refuse to put out a fast car with a rear wiper and they're intentionally shooting themselves in the foot. If they want to chase the braindead they're welcome to do so at the cost of their raison d'etre.
From our experience, the Elantra N makes the most sense of any of the competition. The following is a breakdown of what we've found in our search for a small fun family car, for anyone interested: The Kona N is just a tad too small in the rear seat. We're a family of taller people and that extra leg room is paramount. Our local Honda dealer won't let us test drive a Civic Si until we haggle, which is just dumb if I'm not a kid and can legitimately easily afford one. The Civic Type R did not impress us - it felt loose in so many ways, which we did not expect - could have been that example I suppose. Also the new one's not in production until at least next year. The Golf R is unobtainium (dealers cannot get any more 2022 models at this point from what we were told) and has some bad infotainment stuff going on. The Focus RS is no longer a thing (and we already own one which we're keeping). The Chargers are a bit too big and interiors suck. The Germans don't have anything half as fun for twice as much money (with the same interior accommodations). Lexus doesn't contend until you tip over $70k USD. Acura has a less engaging driving experience across the board. The GR Corolla is yet to be released and will likely be plagued by super high demand. Tesla is double the cost for the engaging one and even then it only really competes with raw acceleration, which is kind of a one trick pony. Haven't driven the Stinger GT, but I can't imagine it has more driver engagement (we intend to at some point). The awesome Blackwings are double the cost or more. Subaru discontinued the STi, and even then the last gen did not get us too excited (we have owned 3 Subarus and really like them, so it's not a brand bias - just think the STi lacks a sense of occasion). Alfas are more expensive, less fun (for the somewhat comparable base trims - the quad is insanely good but also insanely expensive), and less reliable. I'm sure I'm missing some of the competition, but I'm all tapped out thinking about it. In the end, if we can get our hands on an Elantra N for any sort of reasonable cost, we will jump at it. I've owned a lot of very fun cars and this one is right up there with the others in fun factor. Gobstoppingly good car. Oh, and as far as the suspension being harsh, we own the aforementioned RS which has redefined what compromised suspension for the street is to us. The Elantra N feels downright comfy in any mode.
Love this description, thanks for taking the time to write down your thoughts across so many options! Very cool that you even considered the Blackwings and other, more luxurious options like Lexus in your description.
@@VersanGetryx Truly my pleasure! I love cars and have had a blast driving them. Little update: We drove a VW Golf GTI which was like driving a pretty fun normal car. It was quick, so that's nice. It has the "DSG Farts" (the sales guy called them that) so that was better than nothing, but otherwise it was very basic sounding compared to the Focus RS and Elantra N. The shifts on the GTI were slower to react than the N. I expected it to be impressive to drive and I also expected to hate the infotainment. It was almost the opposite. The drive was OK and somewhat subdued (even in sport mode) and the infotainment was good. That said, the N has a slightly easier infotainment to navigate and has more customization for the drive modes. For $2000 more MSRP it really didn't blow us away like I thought it might. There's a rumor a Mk8 Golf R is on its way here and I can't wait to try that. We've cross shopped a lot of cars from $60k down, and the N is toward the top for fun you can have, especially given the price point. Same with the Focus RS. Most fun you can have south of $45k given minimal mods.
If you have beautiful twisty roads in your area on your daily rides. All the last thoughts do not matter. The Kona N and the EN are absolutely brilliant. And once again it's that excitement and soul like Honda had and now lost from the 80s,90s, early 2000's.
After comparing the rest of the amazing cars in this range, (GTI, WRX, S3, Civic Type R) I will most likely be going with the Elantra N, even though I really wanted the FL5, but the lack of DCT and 20k difference steered me to this as need a car that others can drive if needed, it also has a 5 year track included warranty which just shows how much trust they have in thier product, only drove the i30n dct hatch and was blown away at how good it was, Euros are out or the question as not interested in high servicing costs/ parts and how costly they are to run out of warranty, alot of car for the money imo, only issue Is there are reports that the next elantra n will be the only ice N with the 2.5 from the Sonato and that will probably be an amazing bit of kit and will depreciate the current model by abit
So one of the best "affordable" enthusiast cars you can get in 2022 is a freaking Elantra. Imagine if you told this to someone 10-20 years ago. People really need to stop sleeping on Hyundai.
Let'em sleep on Hyundai for as long as they can. I need a value priced car to buy. The last thing my family and I need is for others to discover them and they get priced to the Japanese rival prices.
I legit went to the dealership and asked for a test drive in Elantra N. Literally on the same day of test driving, I ordered one. I was blown away about how good this car drives.
How do you feel about it after 2 years? Any problems you've encountered? I'm considering it but it's going to be really hard to get past the FWD.
You know, I get the value proposition here and respect that Hyundai hired Albert Biermann from BMW. But at the end of the day, you still have a cheap Korean sedan with low-rent interior that's FWD. It's time for you guys to take off your Beer goggles. 😂
FYI, that rear brace is very easy to remove (I have a video on it). These cars are seriously no joke and the front diff is so smart it can make even the slowest driver fast as hell on track....truly the bee's knees
Removing that brace also cuts 29% of body rigidity. That a huge sacrifice. Other brands have done chassis braces without impeding vehicle usability.
@@savagegeese oh for sure, but I'm just saying that if you knew you needed to fill the car ahead of time, you can take it out in under a couple mins to achieve that.
@@pattyboi Makes sense.
@@savagegeese No one, literally no one, will notice that 29% unless they’re Randy Pobst.
@@applesauce2856 or you at the track. But day to day use the rigidity doesn’t matter
Hearing and seeing Mark's shock and awe and admissions of brand-prejudice is something all of us have felt for a while with Hyundai and N. Its great to see it cemented in this video and the chops on the track. You guys looked great out there.
Bugeye mafia
100%. The look on his face when hammering it is one thing. The fact that he backed off to let it cool down is another: that’s respect for the machine. No higher praise than that.
Modern Hyundai makes great cars and modern BMW makes terrible cars, badge snobs come at me.
@@jeffc1347 I’ve owned 3 BMWs in the past 12 years. You speak facts.
Seems like Albert is the blame for both successes
GT350 and Elantra N owner here. I bought the EN for my “fun” daily without driving or seeing one. The car really blew me away and continues to blow away my car friends that are used to 600hp+ cars. Extremely capable little car out of the box. I’d say my EN is 70% capable of doing what my GT350 can do when it comes to driving dynamics and handling on the corners.
Really good to hear from a muscle car owner that has a en too. I've had a bunch of muscle cars before the kids and then went with focus st, then 2.0 accord(they never satisfied the way muscle does). This car has my eyes all over it and I think it'll check all my boxes being it'll be my only car. Just worried about winter lol. Ty have a great day
@@dhuguenin718 FWD in the snow is fine if you have good tires
That's surprising! It goes to show that the internet's brand hate for the N cars is wildly misplaced.
It's more fun to drive slower car fast! The GT350 has higher limits on almost every performance aspects but you normally don't use them all. The EN, rip all day!
@@raiderfly If he is in canada its kind of shity to drive a RWD especialy if convertible or a luxury car. We have real winters here in canada
I don't remember the last time I saw you guys so impressed by a lower end sporty car, that's impressive to me.
I own an Elantra N and I love ripping by V8's while farting on them.
They must either not be trying or be older models.
@@fortheloveofnoise I think he's saying he just blows by unsuspecting V8s and farts on them. Or it could also be a Dodge where theyre just super heavy and spin the wheels alot.
@Colby Kdm >
@Colby you clearly are delusional
@Colby seems like you're just mad you a brokie
As an N-thusiast (huehuehue) hearing you guys praise this car has made my friday! Really glad hyundai in the end was able to cobble together all their previous attempts at an enthusiast product and create this beast of a car
I love when Mark is legitimately surprised (in a positive) way by a car. The NMan cometh! Great video fellas.
I've already done 5 trackdays since I got my Elantra N in January. This car is super capable even in its stock form and it can hang with some fast cars on the track. I ran 1:58 at Sonoma Raceway just with yokohama a052 tires and I know I can go faster next time. This car is so much fun to drive!
Mad impressive!
Stick or DCT?
@@k2229 Stick. I have some track videos if you wanna check out. :p
Is the traction control fully defeatable? Or does it still kick in even when you turn it off?
@@CaptainTonus Yes it's fully defeatable and you can do that with a touch of a button. :)
Hyundai is one of the coolest brands out there these days, and that’s crazy to say but goddamn they found their groove and make some fucking awesome stuff now
For sure, man, they've come a very very long way...
@@tk9839 a fucking long way
@BronzeXV70 Still? yeah if so they need to find a solution asap!
@BronzeXV70 they still definitely have engine problems
There is no other company in the world that makes the perfect car.
All car brands have problems
Hyundai Motor Company's durability and quality are well-received compared to them.
Nice job Hyundai! It takes a lot to impress Mark and Jack on the track...
The good thing about these guys is that when they say something is good, you can believe it
Exactly.
When the video started, I was like "oh such a beautiful car, nice sound - but now these guys will Roger is right left and center " :-D
But they loved it ... hyundai has done it. CHEERS!!
I personally love Kia, Hyundai and Genesys for what they are doing with design and performance. Making the Germans sit up and think.
BTW I personally drive a Jag, because I couldn't find a Stinger in my budget 🙃
I owned three Hyundai products and will never buy another. The 2004 Santa Fe was flawless but the 2010 was a total lemon and the 2012 Elantra I decided to give them a second chance with started actively falling apart by 90,000 miles.
@@dark6c159 you owned the wrong products... Nowadays is different from everything you did before the 2015
@@dark6c159 I had an 07 V6 Sonata, original owner and drove it 485,000 KMS on original everything incl starter and alternator before I got rid of it. Only basic maintenance items ever changed.
My current 08 Elantra beater has 300+ k KMS on it and still driving like a champ.
Hyundai had big problems with their 2L engines from 2010- pretty recent due to some oil passage problems of some sort because of their engine manufacturer. But I mean, they have that 10 yr 100k mile warranty in the U.S still if anything happens so it's not like they aren't owning up to it.
Clicked on this video so fast. I already know it's gonna be a masterpiece of a video
Can't agree more
Same
One thing to note while you guys were under the car was the front lower control arms. They now have bracing on them compared to the Veloster N that has none. Us VN guys have an aftermarket option to buy a set of braces to bolt on to our cars. Crazy because it feels like the engineers do follow what we're doing with our cars and seeing if they can improve upon it.
Another thing VN guys complained about was the Pirelli PZ4 tires as the more driving enthusiasts guys bought PS4S and it was a much better tire. They legitimately listened to our complaints and now, Elantra N comes with PS4S!
It's honestly crazy how they are observing and listening to the community on making the next gen product better. That's why the Elantra N is a much more impressive car than the Veloster N for Mark to drive on track.
I enjoyed hearing the enthusiasm you have for the car, guys! You don’t often seem excited in your content. This was a nice change!
🎯
its quite impressive how far these N cars have come, its great to see how competitive they are for their price, well done Hyundai
And that’s EXACTLY what Hyundai aimed for: FUN! Props to Hyundai for creating fun cars at the price point they’re selling them for‼️‼️‼️
One thing I'll say, I wanted to get a civic si (new), but my local dealer had so many hidden fees the car ended up being $42,000. Down here in Texas I have yet to find a single dealership selling any of these hot economy cars anywhere close to MSRP. It's a joke. For a couple thousand more I bought an ss 1le, which you CAN get at msrp. I'd like to see this being brought to attention
You made the right choice lol
ive heard of a lot of people going to oklahoma to buy cars for this reason.
42??? holy shit
@@ShotByDale I looked into it, the ones I saw were better, but still 2 to 5k over sticker
Saw an Si for sale on autotrader for 48k and laughed. Ordered my Performance Blue DCT Elantra N for 29.5k had to wait 2 months but at that price point its unbeatable.
It looks like it lost a knife fight, but fuck me I want one now.
That's me with the new M3 manual. Grey and black look pretty cool with the butt print grill, hmmmm
Yep, Black or Grey are your only options.
Same. Got the 18 Sport which looks so much better to me, but that N seems so good that it's worth overlooking the worse design...
Been waiting to hear Mark and Jack's take on this car because they were practically the only reviewers who didn't fall all over themselves anointing the Veloster N the King of the Hot Hatches. So if they say the Elantra N is legit, I believe them.
I've been waiting for this one. I have 1,500 miles on my DCT and love it. Incredibly fun and surprisingly very practical. I'm coming from a Fiesta ST so from my perspective it's... much better as a daily driver in terms of comfort and refinement. And unlike the GTI it has physical buttons for everything important (though it can't compete with the Civic interior, although I ruled out the new Si just based on it not having heated seats). I just wish it was a wagon or hatch.
Also came from a Fiesta ST. Been having a blast with my MT EN. Obviously not as raw as the FiST but just as raucous and with a higher performance envelope. The refinement is a welcome change after 7 wonderful years and 115,000 smile filled miles with the ST.
More estates, hatches and lift backs is what the states need.
@@Acs2046 that's no joke. An n/a car from another brand would be a better buy, imo.
@@Acs2046 all you do is comment on Hyundai and Kia videos. Which competitor do you work for?
Tbh, the issues with the theta engines were really bad. On the flip side however, that’s really the only engine in the last 20+ years that’s needed a big recall for catastrophic engine failure. All of the other engines are solid provided you maintain them well.
I will get Elantra N in maybe a year when im done with joy fusion sport cant wait
It was fun to see Mark so happy driving this car. I bet it reminded him of why he does this in the first place.
It was great. I've only rarely seen him fling a car through the corners like he does this one. It's obvious he can place it precisely, with both ends doing what he expects.
It's so refreshing to see a car like this with a manual
Thinking of trading my 2018 accord manual!
I will get the auto cause its 2022 not 1992
@@gorgonismztruth1551 boooooooorrrrrrriiinnngggggg
@@gregblack4581 That's what I traded in for my 2019 Bullitt. Gotta keep the manuals alive! Plus that peppy 2.0t made me even more power hungry. :)
@@richardnavratil9661 yes all my cars are Manuel and I’m in my 60s. Not planning any autos in my future . Funny folks think it’s outdated . It adds pleasure and interaction.
Hearing their shock at the driving characteristics reminds me of my dad's reaction to my 8th gen civic Si, he never understood the small 4 popper till he revved one out. Kind of feel like Hyundai is what Honda was.
The 8th gen Si ruined me for other cars. It set the bar so high in all regards that I struggled to find another car that felt so good. In my heart it is an exotic car.
@@hammychan1 I had a 2007 Civic Si that I traded for a 240Z and currently have a 91 MR2 turbo and an Elantra N. The Si was SO MUCH FUN to drive compared to those cars. The endless increasing torque curve to 8400rpm was just fantastic. The Elantra N doesn't rev as high but holy shit is it still more fun to drive than the Si. I still miss my Si, though. :)
For real
I miss my 8th gen Si so darn much. Hoping the Elantra N will bring back some of those great feelings when I'm in the market again for a new car.
8th gen si was definitely one of my better memories of highschool 😂
I purchased my Elantra N in February and have zero regrets. Stiff suspension doesn't bother me. Everything about the car has been fantastic. I have the DCT and test drove the manual. I truly feel like the DCT takes this car to the next level. (Don't kill me. I love manuals, drove them most of my life, but this is really what I experienced)
You are allowed to choose whatever transmission you want. It's time I think to stop apologising going with an auto.
Safe travels.
Same! Traded in my Focus ST for a CW EN DCT. The transmission is absolutely fantastic.
I traded my Elantra sport manual for a dct N and the DCT is a huge part of what makes the car so great. I don’t regret it one bit.
I’m a manual guy but I’d definitely go DCT. Seems to step it up a notch for sure!! I’m so interested in this car.
Makes sense, a year into ownership of my E92 M3 6mt i basically came to the same conclusion; that the DCT was the move. Between the lightning fast shifts, shorter gearing + extra 7th gear it really put the car on another level the 6mt couldn’t compete on. Plus it wasnt like the manual transmission was super special or anything so not like it made it up with amazing feeling and engagement, it had really long gearing and long notchy throws just like a regular non M BMW, and was not well matched to the low torque peaky high rpm nature of the 4L V8 that needed to live in the top end to really make power.
I don’t understand the hate of it being a daily driver. I got mine two weeks ago and had to drive it home seven hours. The interior is so clean and nice to me and it’s just amazing! It’s a track car but put it into eco mode and I feels like a normal car. I have wanted this car since day one and I’m only two weeks in to owning it and my face has a big ass dumb smile every time I see it or get in and drive. Good on gas when I want it and quick as hell when I want it. Hyundai nailed it!
By default FWD cars are going to be hated by some car enthusiasts
I really appreciate how much time and effort into these videos. They are exactly what I'm looking for in a car review. Especially all the technical details you provide.
It's so comical to behold Mark baptized into Albert Biermann witness, a proper N man!
Been waiting for this one (car), hope you'll get a DCT as well and compare the two, because it is an insanely good package for the price!
This is one of those cars you MUST go see and test drive. It’s an absolute blast to drive, and incredibly fun for a daily driver. Love my Elantra N! Great review!
Glad to see you here :)
cant wait to get one
I find it more comfortable than stated though.
@@IzzyEG6 this 100%
@@IzzyEG6 is there a comfort mode that makes it super soft?
One of the TCR drivers took me for a couple laps around Road Atlanta in this back in January. Stock car in the wet and it was unbelievably good. I knew y'all would get there eventually 😁
1. 2016. Wanted R. Settled for FIST.
2. Spent R type $ on FIST parts. Doh. Fast FIST. Still not R.
2. Hunted R for five years waiting for hype to die down. Did not die down.
3. N Veloster. N or R? R.
4. N Elantra.
5. This video.
5. Searched inventory after video. Found one gray manual in range.
6. Drove immediatly there and purchased.
7. Miss my FIST, the N is two feet and 500 lbs. larger, but two-three generations ahead of the mk. 7 Fiesta in every way.
8. N win.
Wow my story as well! But I am looking for that power the FiST had with FBO+Hybrid turbo.
Currently daily a ‘22 Si, it’s a super nice daily but that it. It’s not sports car, I think the EN may be the par for the course:-)
As a happy MK8 GTI owner, I really respect and tip my hat to the good things that Hyundai is doing, Elantra N included. Great vid.
53 year old sport compact enthusiast since 1983, Gti,WRX,ST,RS,Si, this is the most entertaining daily I have ever owned. Performance Blue 6-spd, figuring it could likely be the last new manual trans I may ever buy-- just couldn't let that go. It's notable that when you have previously put nearly 200k miles on two Fiesta ST dailies, this thing feels like a massive upgrade, with a relatively plush ride in "normal" modes...........Curiously the response to the appearance, especially the color has been overwhelmingly positive- I am sure I am not hearing from any haters, but it is undeniably a car the looks quite different in person. Personally I think it looks striking and performance focused, with sure, more than a little bit of juvenile "because racecar" theater--- that's ok- all this shit keeps me young-- I will take bold styling over some homogenized safe "german sports sedan knock-off" look anytime.........
Also It's curious to see here how much "Ford's automotive or lack thereof business plan" paid off.😂One former Fist owner after another gone to the N....
How do you like it compared to the Fiesta ST in terms of fun? It's obviously much nicer inside, quieter, more comfortable, better tech etc. The Fiesta ST is an absolute riot to drive on a tight twisty back road though. How does the extra 400lbs of weight and longer wheelbase effect the fun to drive nature?
@@jjchockey All of the relatively "nice stuff" in the N does nothing to diminish any fun. Sure, the pure light, tossable nature of the Fist was fantastic, and its size makes me think about how fun an i20 N must be. That said, I think the Elantra strikes a good balance in having all the pure rowdiness I want, along with an unexpected but welcome level of refinement. So think of it as all of the fun of the ST, along with heaping levels more of both livability AND speed.
Great review! My wife told me I needed a car with back seats for the baby that's coming. So I told her I'm buying a Korean economy car. Picked up my black EN DCT last week and it's such a fun car. Can't wait for a track day!
I have an Elantra N and its the most fun ive ever had in a car. I love Hyundai
In typical Hyundai fashion, the styling makes me feel like I need an airline sick bag. However you can’t argue the performance, looks fun to drive
Didn't always used to be that way. Take a look at the 2018 Elantra sport. That car's body in this car's drivetrain would be perfection for me for an economy fwd sport sedan. But somewhere after that they went triangle crazy.
@@dammyo6010 to each their own, style is subjective. Hard pass from me on that one.
I’m kinda old and no stranger when it comes to sport compacts. My very first was a used, beat-to-shit 1991 Nissan Sentra SE-R. I’ve owned an Mk5 and MK7 VW GTI, as well an 8th-gen and 10th-gen Civic Si. Now the proud papa of an Elantra N with a stick, mercifully sold to me at sticker price by some good folks in Omaha. My God, this thing does everything in italics. From the fantastic seats to the quickness to the unbelievably fun and raucous exhaust while blasting down the road in N mode, it’s an all-around blast. The only time I’ve had more fun in a car was when I drove a Ferrari F430 on that track outside of Las Vegas. If I had to nitpick, I’d say some of the interior plastics are crap and the front end resembles a catfish. But really, all is forgotten when you get behind the wheel. I’ll be holding on to this car for dear life as we brace for our inevitable and silent electric future.
The Elantra N might be one of the last few performance budget ICE sedans/hatchbacks..
Awesome review!!!! Awesome car!!! Hats off to Hyundai for giving the car enthusiast what they are looking for. To help with the stiffness I'd just change the wheel and tire combo...but at this price point it comes with everything and lacks nothing.
I was waiting for you all to do this!
The review I was waiting for. Thank you Mark and Jack.
Finally, have been waiting for this review. So happy that you guys got around to this one.
This is a huge win. There are gimmicks and gizmos for the poseurs but there is actual real content for those interested in driving. Kudos Hyundai .. now .. if this was brought as a hatchback (i30/Elantra GT N) I would seriously consider it.
Well there is the Veloster N
@@Stax62
Was. Gonna be discontinued.
Yeah the i30 is much better looking and a hatch. That would seriously make me second guess my gr86 order.
It is definitely a win. Though one my ask how big is the market for a hardcore front wheel drive at this price point. Obviously the GTI is most likely less sharp but I would be curious to know how many buyers of a hot hatch (I would put the N in this category) are really tracking their car.
@@2010ngojo Hyundai only discontinued the base veloster N, now you can only buy the performance trim
"I can't believe how good this car is, dude" (twice said) is high praise, indeed.
That is the kindest review I've seen on this channel!
Thanks for reviewing this ! I have an EN and love it ! Most fun car I've ever owned !
Had an AWD 2017 Fusion Sport loved the suprising speed and the way that drove, but I drove the Elantra N once and now the Fusion is gone… I definitely sacrificed some speed but the N just hugs corners so well and to me even being the smaller car I find the back seat and cockpit to be more roomy with less pressure points for my knees… plus the 6-spd … driving the N makes me smile.
Just ordered one! Can’t wait
Had my i30 N for just over 4 years. The pops and bangs never get old.
Geez finally!!!!! Thanks guys for the excellent effort.
I think the perspective on the interior is all subjective. I went from a 10th generation Civic to the Elantra N, and at least for me I find Hyundai's layout and interior to make more sense. The widescreen display alone is light years beyond Honda, I had so much lag and crashing with the Civic infotainment. I have never, ever had an infotainment system so responsive and frankly so gorgeous. Apple Car Play, albeit wired, is amazing as well.
I drive 110 miles a day for work, and the only thing I can ding the Elantra N on is the seat comfort, but that was a trade off I was willing to make because you are locked into that seat in turns and you are going nowhere. As far as cheap plastics go...every car I've ever had felt like it had areas with cheap plastics. There's enough alcantara to make up for some of the softer plastics, and to the people with complaints: it's a performance car, not a luxury vehicle. Cannot wait to eventually get this thing on the track.
The newest Honda infotainment systems are much improved, but Hyundai/Kia has always done their systems extremely well. They're still as easy to use as any out there, and a little quicker than what Honda offers. Unlike in the past, I don't consider the infotainment a negative for the Civic anymore, just not the positive the Elantra's is.
I gotta ding the center digital gauges/display. I have the Digital cockpit pro in my VW Tiguan, and you can tell that screen/gauges has Audi roots.
@@Albus_Rex And how much is the Tiguan similarly spec’d?
The Veloster N was a good drivers car for the money.
It also laid down a good lap time in C&D Lightning Lap for its price point.
Cant wait to see how much faster the Elantra N is on the Lightning Lap board...
I just have no desire or need for a car the size or style of the Elantra.
I have to be that guy who loves the i20N that we will never see here.
The Dr. Brundle reference was a DEEP cut. Love this channel.
I love the video! The background music from the intro sounds like a Knight Rider sequence in a GOOD WAY! 💖
This thing is very aesthetically pleasing , love the bucket seats as well 😍
The front facia black out treatments make the car more appealing IMO - I've never been a fan of the grill styling. I can recall when the Veloster N was released and all the good press it received, its clear a lot of that DNA found its way into this car. Looks like an absolute hoot to drive. Make mine a manual please 😎
The car looks pretty good in black or grey
Instead of a face with eyes and mouth, this looks like a masked (or maybe bearded lol) villain or ninja.
Just wish those sharp triangles on the side wasnt a thing :S
This is one car I’ve been dying to see you review and it was great to hear your thoughts on it. Maybe someday I’ll have one in the ‘rage.
Thank you very much, Gooseman.
Had one of these in my run group at a track day (Waterford Hills) and yes, it's dummy fast
owner claims it was running mid 1:19's, for perspective a good lap in my 3rd gen MX-5 on Indy 500 tires runs a low 1:21
I was blown away to learn it had 500 miles and had no mods too
Hyundai N is underrated
Impressive how the car performed. these reviews are awesome. The SI is not the right competition for this car. The SI on both price and power compares better to the N-line
Yes, but this will likely be cheaper than the Type R. The Hyundais don't line up with the Honda pricing very closely.
I have been waiting for this video for so long
Between this and the Kona N you just reviewed, I am shocked but delighted to see how much you enjoyed the N’s driving experience. I have issues with the styling and odd color, but you peaked my interest.
I had the standard Elantra as a rental car for a few months. It was amazing. Felt like an old 3 Series. I cannot imagine how awesome the N version must be to drive.
i'm old and it's too stiff for me. but if I was in late 20s or 30s i would've had a blast with this car.
The last fwd car I've enjoyed driving was the fiestive ST. This is going on the list of cars I'd like to try.
1100 miles on my manual transmission Elantra N. Love this car. So much fun
Traded my jeep wrangler in for an EN, get it in a few weeks. Picked the white in M/T. Can't wait.
1/6th of my current miles are track miles. This car is amazing, and legit needs NOTHING to take to the track and rip at HPDE4+/instructor pace all day long.
What kind of mpg does it get just driving around town etc…
@@pssita I averaged 33mpg today on the way to work, about an hour drive. i wasnt really feathering it either, but in N mode I get 20mpg ish lol
I subscribe to my Korea friend who commented below on RUclips and he is a track monster in So Cal with his Elantra N. Thank you for the honest and great review. I agree with everything you said about the N on the track. I replaced my 2015 A4 with my Elantra N and I like it much better as a daily than the Audi. You are the only reviewers who gave the sound a negative comment. Most of us love the exhaust pops/crackles and burbles. I knew the N was going to leave a grin on your face when you tracked it.
Lol sweet. I also sold my 2016 S3 for my Hyundai EN. My friends and family looked at me like I was crazy.
UNTIL they heard me speed away 😏😏
Ultimate Track Machine!! I have done 9 track days since day one, and it's so reliable!!! I'm seriously thinking of selling my Civic Type R
Not sure how this video ended up in my recommended feed but it sure makes me happy to see. I’m not remotely a car guy and I drive a 2010 Elantra GLS. I just learned recently that those things had a 8.7 second 0-60 time from the factory. I had a friend who was a huge muscle car bro and he spent an extended period of time trying to convince me to sell my Elantra and get something track-capable despite having no desire to do so. Learning that, theoretically, I could replace it with another more differenter Elantra and have a chance of beating his Mustang put the biggest grin on my face.
I love my Elantra N. I’m always amazed how f’ing fast this thing is and it rides on rails. I love the stiffness for daily driving and the exhaust note just kicks a$$. I had a bmw 330ci and Audi A7 before this and believe it or not I like the N better than both of them. Plus, it’s practical so I can fit the wifey and my two girls in it no problem. High marks for this car.
Good to hear. Well I’m going to try and get a 2024 when they come out. I like the facelift they did
I was born in 1998 so have no nostalgia bias of a stick shift. This DCT is exactly what I want. I was looking for a small car that is sporty to pair with my 2011 Ford ranger work horse. My family has owned 4 Hyundai's and although my sister abuses her Sonata after crashing her Sante Fe her car runs fine. I had an Accent which I drove for 3 years and sold for 70% of what I paid for it. Mom had a Tucson in the top trim option so I already have love in my heart for this awesome Korean company ❤ As a 23 year old who loves attention the pops on N mode make me Grin 😀 😄
I was born in 1995... it's not about nostalgia, it's about the enjoyment....a sports car without a manual transmission is boring..ide rather eat a bullet than own another automatic or anything besides a real manual.
I watched this video when first posted. Revisited today to refresh just become my Nephew just bought the exact car-color and 6 speed manual yesterday. Looking forward to checking it out in the flesh.
Honest review....as always. Thanks lads.👍
Great video, excellent overview. I really like how Hyundai didn't just slap more power into it but actually addressed the details to make that power accessible with the chassis, thank you for going over all of that. Glad to see Hyundai is now catering to the blind enthusiast market. I mean... I -want- to like this car but it's just so ugly I'd have to drive it in the dark.
-sigh-
If they get their design language figured out this bodes well for the next generation of N cars.
Hyundai has taken the Front wheel Drive sport car segment by storm. I dont know how they did it but they did. It is a hell of lot of fun and blows Honda, VW out the water.
What time does it run on the nurburgring?
@@MeltingRubberZ28 what time do you run on the Nurburgring? Numerous reviewers have all said that while yes the CTR is faster on the clock, the VN is more fun. The EN builds on that with an upgraded turbocharger and a new chassis.
Especially on price. If I want luxury I'll buy a used Lexus. I feel like that's my biggest issue with modern BMWs, I love my 328i, but in spite of the moderate attempt at luxury features weighing it down.
@@tamegaming1768 bro, what did you expect buying a bottom of the line BMW?
@@JacesOwnWorld Mostly what I got. It's an e90 so it was cheaper, but my point being luxury features undercut or work against the driving experience. Luxury = weight
Yess.
I have been waiting for this video for a while now.You are guys amazing .I can only say that ;every car you suggested and I bought it become one of the best decisions I have made. Mazda 3 2015 ,now Elantra 2022. Everything you are saying is true. That specific humorous accent is also always nice to hear, a bit of missing Mr Turbowski though.
Many people seem to hate the design but I for one love the design. I get compliments all the time as well.
I have the manual 2021 i30N hatch here in Australia and it’s amazingly fun to drive. I liken it to an MX5/Miata of hot hatches; there may be faster or more serious cars, but the N cars just find a perfect blend of performance and fun for the price point. I’m still surprised I enjoy my N more than other cars I’ve owned that most enthusiasts would put ahead of it such as an Evo X, Focus RS, STi and GR Yaris. It shouldn’t be this good, but it’s more than the sum of its parts.
It's more fun than your older cars because it's a newer car with all the newer tech that makes those older gen cars feel old.
@@Vision33r yeah but what’s great about it is that the N doesn’t let the newer tech bog it down and numb the driving experience. Rather, it amplifies it and still manages to make the drive engaging and mechanical.
@@Vision33r it’s only a couple of years newer than most of those cars so other than Apple CarPlay the tech is pretty similar.
The reason I find it more fun is that it is fun to drive at normal road speeds, a lot of performance cars at this price point, particularly all wheel drive cars (not the Yaris so much) feel heavy and numb until you’re driving them at 9 or 10/10s, and by that time you’re in jail territory speed wise. They also lack character and sound out of the box with nerfed exhausts that make them sound like sewing machines until you put an aftermarket exhaust on. The N sounds awesome out of the box. Hyundai also include track warranty for non time events, so they believe in their product being used for what it was designed for.
Anyway, this is just my experience, I enjoyed all of the cars I mentioned plus others I’ve had, I’d just encourage others who may snub the N because “it’s a Hyundai” to check it out. Albert really worked some magic on these and hopefully they can continue the momentum now he’s retired and I believe now in a consulting/advisory role.
I don’t even care about this car but I’m addicted to your reviews 😌
I appreciate the integration of the infotainment into the dash
You guys missed the comparison here: Golf R and Type R (and GR Corolla). Not the Si or GTI. It’s literally on Hyundai’s website now lol
Elephant in the room. they wouldn't dare because it comes down to price point. they still have hard on's for the type r and wouldn't dare put the idea that it's a better option because of price point. This car is literally 9-11k cheaper and does 95% of what a Civic Type R can do both on track and on street and on some courses tracks better.
Final thoughts you forgot to mention overall GTI interior is nicer... but it still doesn't have buttons which the Elantra N has the perfect number of buttons which is super important to me. I would have bought a new GTI but the controls look like a nightmare.
GTi better be nice for that damn silly price lol
I was cross shopping gti and this and got into fb group for that car. Group was riddled with bugs from infotainment hindering numerous key features for that car for so many folks. So those are not just inconvenient its super buggy. Major cost cutting
@@shrijanaryal4923 I've been hearing that. No excuse for that at all - just bad testing or inadequate development time by VW. It's a silly interior that has no advantages at all.
Yeah they might have been comparing it to Jack’s GTI which is an MK7. The interior of that car is pretty much perfect, it’s sad they just didn’t keep it similar.
Comparing this to a Type R is a win in itself. Hyundai's improvement is excellent and continues to change minds.
It's cool to see Mark actually enjoying driving again. These guys put in a LOT of hours on making content, would hate to see them get burnt out. Don't know where I'd find content made for car nerds, by car nerds.
Love these SG reviews! Give credit where credit is due.
I'm really glad Mark got to drive something new that finally excited him again. I feel like we may have just seen him gain another 3 years of tolerance for the automotive journalism space just on the hope of another car like this being made.
At first glance this car doesn't look all that well, but once you start looking at it with a detailed eye the Elantra N starts looking way better in my opinion.
One of the guys in our sports car club bought one of these got some stickier rubber and autocross' this thing and it is amazing! This is a great package and Hyundai should get credit for making this car!
Least interesting fact about this video: I never dreamed of appearing in one of the SG videos, but at 6:20, that guy with the pink flower wallpaper - that’s me at work… Thanks for your great channel and for the technical details without forgetting the fun behind cars!
Im sorry I only had your back but you looked strong.
I've never seen a manufacturer growing as fast as Hyundai did in the past 10 years. They make one hell of a statement with their N cars and are very competitive. This brilliant front differential should absolutely make its way in the Sonata N Line and Kia K5 GT. Now i'm wondering when Mazda is going to put their head out of the clouds and bring the Mazdaspeed back.
doubt it, mazda is more towards luxury now.
Don't expect it. They might make some quick cars, but they won't be as raw as the Mazdaspeeds, and definitely road cars, not track cars. They're trying to compete with Acura and Lexus, plus the cheaper European luxury cars.
@@markmiller3279 It shouldn't be hard to compete. Those cars are style over substance and cost an arm and a leg to service. Literally anybody who makes a semi-decent car should be kicking them up and down the street because all they ride on is brand recognition
Mazda refuse to put out a fast car with a rear wiper and they're intentionally shooting themselves in the foot. If they want to chase the braindead they're welcome to do so at the cost of their raison d'etre.
From our experience, the Elantra N makes the most sense of any of the competition. The following is a breakdown of what we've found in our search for a small fun family car, for anyone interested:
The Kona N is just a tad too small in the rear seat. We're a family of taller people and that extra leg room is paramount. Our local Honda dealer won't let us test drive a Civic Si until we haggle, which is just dumb if I'm not a kid and can legitimately easily afford one. The Civic Type R did not impress us - it felt loose in so many ways, which we did not expect - could have been that example I suppose. Also the new one's not in production until at least next year. The Golf R is unobtainium (dealers cannot get any more 2022 models at this point from what we were told) and has some bad infotainment stuff going on. The Focus RS is no longer a thing (and we already own one which we're keeping). The Chargers are a bit too big and interiors suck. The Germans don't have anything half as fun for twice as much money (with the same interior accommodations). Lexus doesn't contend until you tip over $70k USD. Acura has a less engaging driving experience across the board. The GR Corolla is yet to be released and will likely be plagued by super high demand. Tesla is double the cost for the engaging one and even then it only really competes with raw acceleration, which is kind of a one trick pony. Haven't driven the Stinger GT, but I can't imagine it has more driver engagement (we intend to at some point). The awesome Blackwings are double the cost or more. Subaru discontinued the STi, and even then the last gen did not get us too excited (we have owned 3 Subarus and really like them, so it's not a brand bias - just think the STi lacks a sense of occasion). Alfas are more expensive, less fun (for the somewhat comparable base trims - the quad is insanely good but also insanely expensive), and less reliable.
I'm sure I'm missing some of the competition, but I'm all tapped out thinking about it. In the end, if we can get our hands on an Elantra N for any sort of reasonable cost, we will jump at it. I've owned a lot of very fun cars and this one is right up there with the others in fun factor. Gobstoppingly good car.
Oh, and as far as the suspension being harsh, we own the aforementioned RS which has redefined what compromised suspension for the street is to us. The Elantra N feels downright comfy in any mode.
The Elantra N’s backroom is a bit more roomier than the Kona N.
Love this description, thanks for taking the time to write down your thoughts across so many options! Very cool that you even considered the Blackwings and other, more luxurious options like Lexus in your description.
@@VersanGetryx Truly my pleasure! I love cars and have had a blast driving them. Little update: We drove a VW Golf GTI which was like driving a pretty fun normal car. It was quick, so that's nice. It has the "DSG Farts" (the sales guy called them that) so that was better than nothing, but otherwise it was very basic sounding compared to the Focus RS and Elantra N. The shifts on the GTI were slower to react than the N. I expected it to be impressive to drive and I also expected to hate the infotainment. It was almost the opposite. The drive was OK and somewhat subdued (even in sport mode) and the infotainment was good. That said, the N has a slightly easier infotainment to navigate and has more customization for the drive modes. For $2000 more MSRP it really didn't blow us away like I thought it might. There's a rumor a Mk8 Golf R is on its way here and I can't wait to try that. We've cross shopped a lot of cars from $60k down, and the N is toward the top for fun you can have, especially given the price point. Same with the Focus RS. Most fun you can have south of $45k given minimal mods.
@@afterburn2600 Did you ever get to test drive a Kia K5 GT with the 2.5 liter turbo engine?
GOTTA LOVE THE JEREMY CLARKSON VIBE IN THIS DUDE. kudos!
Ive been waiting for this review
Sounds like you guys need to get the DCT on this. It would be sick
Sounds spectacular in today's age of nerf-mobiles.
Been waiting for the SavageGeese review of this car - Its the only one that counts.
Well Done, men!
You're doing God's work with these reviews, guys. Keep it up.
If you have beautiful twisty roads in your area on your daily rides. All the last thoughts do not matter. The Kona N and the EN are absolutely brilliant. And once again it's that excitement and soul like Honda had and now lost from the 80s,90s, early 2000's.
After comparing the rest of the amazing cars in this range, (GTI, WRX, S3, Civic Type R) I will most likely be going with the Elantra N, even though I really wanted the FL5, but the lack of DCT and 20k difference steered me to this as need a car that others can drive if needed, it also has a 5 year track included warranty which just shows how much trust they have in thier product, only drove the i30n dct hatch and was blown away at how good it was, Euros are out or the question as not interested in high servicing costs/ parts and how costly they are to run out of warranty, alot of car for the money imo, only issue Is there are reports that the next elantra n will be the only ice N with the 2.5 from the Sonato and that will probably be an amazing bit of kit and will depreciate the current model by abit
U end up getting the EN?
So one of the best "affordable" enthusiast cars you can get in 2022 is a freaking Elantra.
Imagine if you told this to someone 10-20 years ago.
People really need to stop sleeping on Hyundai.
Let'em sleep on Hyundai for as long as they can. I need a value priced car to buy. The last thing my family and I need is for others to discover them and they get priced to the Japanese rival prices.
👏 👏 👏 im sooooo happy that this car has proven you wrong. I’m excited for the future with N. they need to be taken serious!!!
Bought one because of this video - Thank you for all you do!