Team I used a Pre Emergent in Fall for Poa seeds, and was exactly on point with that. I just sprayed my back yard with speedzone it's the Besttttttttttttttt, I don't have any weeds in my front yard just some pesky blue grass last spring so I cut it out and sodded those areas , I see none yet, fingers crossed, but its not that bad anyways it dies off in summer
Good stuff. Even though I didn't overseed this spring, I just used Scott's Starter with Weed Preventer, which uses Meso as its active ingredient. I normally would use Prodiamine, but I had a bunch of Scott's left over from a fall overseed, so figured I'd use what I already had in my garage.
Great summary and comparison of the different pre-emergent agents.👍 I apply it next to my driveway and on the thin areas of my lawn. Hoping to be applying pre emergent to a lot less square footage next year.😆
Great video Jeremy !! I put down Prodiamine a couple of weeks ago....along with Humic12(doesn’t work if you keep it in the bottle 😂) thanks for all you do !
I am using straight soya meal at a high rate on unirragated turf places. Seed meals in general inhibit germination by boosting biologic activity at the soil surface and new sprouts succumb to damping off fungus.
I used Prodiamine this year and I use pre-emergent because I had weed troube a few years back. I'm hoping 2 more seasons of pre-emergent and I can ditch it then. Did u get my email? Sent it Saturday
@@TheGreenerLawn Don't worry about the thumbs down, just a bunch of trolls. What's not to like about a lawn video? And, if you don't like it, just move on or at least make a mean comment about why. :-)
Ready to seed bare spots this spring break skipping prod completely. LOve to try that spreading PR you talked about in another vid.New JG BBU in oct. Taking my chances with tenacity and speedzone as the weeds come. Just want to get roots deep. Also setting timers from 20 min a zone every other day to 2 hrs a zone once a week to drive roots. Also picked up 20 bags of purely organic for 3 bucks a bag along with humic coated urea for the spring break throw down.
I started my lawn project last year, which was soil amendments, core aeration and over seeding. I also had a fair amount of poa annua, so here's what I did this year. My spring preemergent was an application of Prodiamine. My lawn was core aerated and over seeded The first week of September and I applied tenacity. Three weeks later I rolled the dice, and applied tenacity again crossing my fingers it wouldn't kill the young grass seedlings, which it didn't. We received a significant amount of rain so two weeks after that, I applied dithiopyr for my fall preemergent. So far, so good. I knew there was a risk applying tenacity after the over seeding but it worked out well for me. I'm really looking forward to next spring. I know there's a risk applying tenacity to the lawn after germination, and it's possible that maybe I just got lucky.
I have a new lawn to seed in the coming weeks up in South Dakota that is a tilled up prairie field. Would you recommend that I spray with Glysophate and also Mesotrione prior to seeding?
If you have a bunch of weeds glyphosate is a good first step, it kills anything it drys on, and as soon as it is dry it has no residual kill. So glyphosate then meso and seed or glyphosate, seed meso. Either way will work well. If there isn’t anything to spray glyphosate will not kill anything that it doesn’t touch.
How do you get a lawn like this in the video? My lawn gets close to this and shortly after it gets a disease that wipes a lot of it out. Happens every year.
There are two sections of my front yard that have been struggling since we moved in. We live in a garage forward ranch home. The sun rises in our backyard and sets in the front. The garage blocks a lot of the sun in the main front and the house blocks almost all of the sun in the near front. They both have been teeth rattling bumpy and weed / moss infested. The grass was choked with debris as well. So the plan was to improve the worst two spots. removing the debris, killing the moss and weeds, get an aeration done to open up the soil, boosting them with Humichar and fertilizer, and finally get them on some kind of watering program at least until they recover. WHEW!! It’s been a lot of work but I hope it’ll pay of this summer. By the way some of these treatments have been applied to the rest of the lawn as well: pre-emergent, aeration, and fertilizer. I also picked up the last backpack sprayer in the region in preparation for the weed killing with Tenacity in the fall reseed and Speedzone ASAP. The possible is the budget.
Wow you have been putting in lots of work! There will be ups and downs during your Reno, but all this hard work will pay off soon! I’d love to see your progress to this point @ JeremyofTheGreenerLawn@gmail.com . Way to do work!
I put down new sod in September. I roto tillled before putting down the sod. I did have some areas that had crabgrass before we put down the sod. Do I need to apply pre emergent in case the crabgrass roots are still in the soil?
It will not do anything for roots, if only blocks an enzyme that triggers the seed to germinate, so if they are at the root stage it will no work. But for any new seed, yes, for sure to not let it establish over there again till the sod gets full and healthy!
I applied tenacity and prodiamine and it’s killing my good cool season grass will my grass eventually bounce back my sprayer’s tip wasn’t working properly and was not spraying correctly
Doing an experiment on my large yard, which is 27,000 square feet. Anderson's Barricade .048 on the front 10,000 square feet. Lesco .068 Stonewall 0-0-7 with Prodiamine on the right side 4,300 SF. And Lesco 19-0-7 with Dimension on the remaining back and left side yards.
I'm going to be throwing down some Tenacity, as I'm seeding a bunch of areas, but then I'm going to do my basic Scott's Weed and Feed, Spring formula in a month or so.. Normally, I do that in the Fall as well, give it good fully tummy full of Nitro and weed killer for better lawn in Spring..
Super smart moves! Are you going to put that weed and feed over the top of your new seed? If it’s a post emergent, a lot of them have a “wait this period” until the seed is established.
@@TheGreenerLawn Very good point! I'm going to take a peak at the bag today. May have to f/up w/ another dose of T @ that point. I'm usually good with minimal weeds and such, but I think I may feed the neighbor's yard for best protection.
yes! it will only block grass seed for roughly 60-90 days depending on the product. tenacity or meso, you can seed at the same time. Yes, you will be fine!
Your vid nailed my situation, I put pre-emergent and fert down in the fall and won’t need to do anything but rake and mow until memorial day. Thanks for the informative vid. 👍😎
Looking for any suggestions as I’m pretty new to lawn care.I inherited a lawn when I moved in & it was horrible.Can’t even list everything that was there it was a menu.I broke it down into 4 quarters so I wouldn’t get overwhelmed & was down on my knees more than a $2 prostitute.I hand weeded everything everyday & became obsessed with it.My neighbor thinks I’m a lunatic because I’m always out there & keep telling them to stay off my lawn.Huge pet peeve I’m sure we all have.Anyway I did the best I could until it got to the point where you just need some help in way of pre & post emergents.I have exhausted RUclips watching & researching all I can.At the tale end of this year I got hit with crabgrass & I have had clover & white clover forever.I managed to keep the dandelions under control from hand weeding though.I just couldn’t keep up.I got some prodiamine,quinclorac & tenacity.I’m on almost 2 weeks of my first round of tenacity & it bleached after 6 days.I’m seeing results but it’s now getting into the single digits so I don’t think it’s wise to do a second or possibly 3rd application because by then the snow might be on the ground where I live.I’m glad I watched this video because I was of the understanding that I can do a pre emergent in the fall & spring but was going to wait until spring.According to what I just watched I should get one down to stop that spring attack.I’m gonna do another regardless in the spring but was worried about my core aeration but you covered that.I failed to say I did do an over-seed that’s why I used the tenacity & the lawn was looking A1 until the bleaching effect.My thought is next year when I do another pre emergent at 55 degrees should I mix a bit of tenacity in seeing that if there’s any bleaching it’s early in the year so it will have time to recover then turn to quinclorac for any spot treatments so I don’t bleach the lawn & from what I see quinclorac besides killing crabgrass works on much more.Any advice would be appreciated.Keep up there good work.This was one of the most informative videos I have watched that answered a few very important questions out there in the lawn world.Thanks!
One - glad it helped, two, I think an email convo will be way more informative for you! Mind emailing me? You are on the right path with quite a bit, but I think clarification will assist you!
Team I used a Pre Emergent in Fall for Poa seeds, and was exactly on point with that. I just sprayed my back yard with speedzone it's the Besttttttttttttttt, I don't have any weeds in my front yard just some pesky blue grass last spring so I cut it out and sodded those areas , I see none yet, fingers crossed, but its not that bad anyways it dies off in summer
🤞🏻 for sure! Your front is always on point for sure! Speedzone is a good one, I like Tzone and q4 as well.
Excellent explanation. Spot on!
Thx manny!! Much appreciated feedback!
Good stuff. Even though I didn't overseed this spring, I just used Scott's Starter with Weed Preventer, which uses Meso as its active ingredient. I normally would use Prodiamine, but I had a bunch of Scott's left over from a fall overseed, so figured I'd use what I already had in my garage.
Sooooo smart! No need to forget what you currently have! Just keep an eye on it for post, if needed. But it should be great this season!
Great summary and comparison of the different pre-emergent agents.👍 I apply it next to my driveway and on the thin areas of my lawn. Hoping to be applying pre emergent to a lot less square footage next year.😆
Spot treatment is smart honestly! Less sqftage? Moving? Ripping out grass? Or just more healthy?
@@TheGreenerLawn Just hoping to have more healthy grass.🌱😊🙏
BTW your voice is so soothing it can put me to sleep Lol that is a good thing not bad
I like to hear this! Makes my day! Lol but if you need an nap... I’m here to assist lol
@@TheGreenerLawn Lol 🙌
Great video Jeremy !! I put down Prodiamine a couple of weeks ago....along with Humic12(doesn’t work if you keep it in the bottle 😂) thanks for all you do !
No it doesn’t work in any bottle... lol that is correct! Do you use Prodiamine every year?
Great video and explanations Jeremy
Appreciate the feedback papa.
I am using straight soya meal at a high rate on unirragated turf places.
Seed meals in general inhibit germination by boosting biologic activity at the soil surface and new sprouts succumb to damping off fungus.
I love these correlations for Canada! Keep feeing me Wayne! Thank you!
Great content Jeremy!
Thanks sir! Much appreciated!
✅ pre - emergent applied!
Project area protection ready!
Ahh yea! project area, what do you got going on?
First Aussie 😁. Jeremy,good to see our own Aussie Lawn Guru 🇦🇺 make an appearance on your video.
For sure! He had some good things to say, so
I used them when it came to the proper situation.
I used Prodiamine this year and I use pre-emergent because I had weed troube a few years back. I'm hoping 2 more seasons of pre-emergent and I can ditch it then. Did u get my email? Sent it Saturday
Yes email, sorry! I thought I wrote back. My bad. Getting your self full
Is a solid plan to get to the next step in no pre! I like it!
I don’t understand thumbs down 👎🏽....If u don’t like something just move on!!!! Ok I am done 😎
Wifie to the rescue 👌🏻 agree with you here (even if I didn’t I would) 🥰
@@TheGreenerLawn Don't worry about the thumbs down, just a bunch of trolls. What's not to like about a lawn video? And, if you don't like it, just move on or at least make a mean comment about why. :-)
When I want to ear about grass and the voice of angel speaks grass 😆🤣😂 great video brother, again....
Lol this always makes my day hearing this! Lol thank you for real!👌🏻 you’re enjoying my spoken word and I’m digging your written word!
Goosegrass and Florida Pusley is a real good reason to be proactive. I’m newly sodded so no pre E for me this season. 🦩🤘🏼
Good stuff! Smart use of pre, to block those for sure!
I am going after crab grass using a split Prodiamine app.
SmRt! I like it! Do you have quinclorac for any stragglers?
Ready to seed bare spots this spring break skipping prod completely. LOve to try that spreading PR you talked about in another vid.New JG BBU in oct. Taking my chances with tenacity and speedzone as the weeds come. Just want to get roots deep. Also setting timers from 20 min a zone every other day to 2 hrs a zone once a week to drive roots. Also picked up 20 bags of purely organic for 3 bucks a bag along with humic coated urea for the spring break throw down.
I started my lawn project last year, which was soil amendments, core aeration and over seeding. I also had a fair amount of poa annua, so here's what I did this year. My spring preemergent was an application of Prodiamine. My lawn was core aerated and over seeded The first week of September and I applied tenacity. Three weeks later I rolled the dice, and applied tenacity again crossing my fingers it wouldn't kill the young grass seedlings, which it didn't. We received a significant amount of rain so two weeks after that, I applied dithiopyr for my fall preemergent. So far, so good. I knew there was a risk applying tenacity after the over seeding but it worked out well for me. I'm really looking forward to next spring. I know there's a risk applying tenacity to the lawn after germination, and it's possible that maybe I just got lucky.
You are good. It’s a pre/during/and post seeding application. You did it correctly.
I have a new lawn to seed in the coming weeks up in South Dakota that is a tilled up prairie field. Would you recommend that I spray with Glysophate and also Mesotrione prior to seeding?
If you have a bunch of weeds glyphosate is a good first step, it kills anything it drys on, and as soon as it is dry it has no residual kill. So glyphosate then meso and seed or glyphosate, seed meso. Either way will work well.
If there isn’t anything to spray glyphosate will not kill anything that it doesn’t touch.
@@TheGreenerLawn thank you
How do you get a lawn like this in the video? My lawn gets close to this and shortly after it gets a disease that wipes a lot of it out. Happens every year.
Email me info@diygrasscare.com let’s talk ober your grass type, where you live, your humidity, watering schedule, how long you water. Ect.
Team no pre e on healthy cool season lawns.
I agree 💯
There are two sections of my front yard that have been struggling since we moved in. We live in a garage forward ranch home. The sun rises in our backyard and sets in the front. The garage blocks a lot of the sun in the main front and the house blocks almost all of the sun in the near front. They both have been teeth rattling bumpy and weed / moss infested. The grass was choked with debris as well.
So the plan was to improve the worst two spots. removing the debris, killing the moss and weeds, get an aeration done to open up the soil, boosting them with Humichar and fertilizer, and finally get them on some kind of watering program at least until they recover.
WHEW!! It’s been a lot of work but I hope it’ll pay of this summer. By the way some of these treatments have been applied to the rest of the lawn as well: pre-emergent, aeration, and fertilizer. I also picked up the last backpack sprayer in the region in preparation for the weed killing with Tenacity in the fall reseed and Speedzone ASAP. The possible is the budget.
Wow you have been putting in lots of work! There will be ups and downs during your Reno, but all this hard work will pay off soon! I’d love to see your progress to this point @ JeremyofTheGreenerLawn@gmail.com . Way to do work!
I put down new sod in September. I roto tillled before putting down the sod. I did have some areas that had crabgrass before we put down the sod. Do I need to apply pre emergent in case the crabgrass roots are still in the soil?
It will not do anything for roots, if only blocks an enzyme that triggers the seed to germinate, so if they are at the root stage it will no work. But for any new seed, yes, for sure to not let it establish over there again till the sod gets full and healthy!
I applied tenacity and prodiamine and it’s killing my good cool season grass will my grass eventually bounce back my sprayer’s tip wasn’t working properly and was not spraying correctly
When you say killing mind sending me pics to JeremyofTheGreenerLawn@gmail.com ?
Doing an experiment on my large yard, which is 27,000 square feet. Anderson's Barricade .048 on the front 10,000 square feet. Lesco .068 Stonewall 0-0-7 with Prodiamine on the right side 4,300 SF. And Lesco 19-0-7 with Dimension on the remaining back and left side yards.
Nice solid test plot right there! Did you give each one of the same months coverage?
@@TheGreenerLawn I just applied the recommended product weight per thousand square feet for each product.
I'm going to be throwing down some Tenacity, as I'm seeding a bunch of areas, but then I'm going to do my basic Scott's Weed and Feed, Spring formula in a month or so.. Normally, I do that in the Fall as well, give it good fully tummy full of Nitro and weed killer for better lawn in Spring..
Super smart moves! Are you going to put that weed and feed over the top of your new seed? If it’s a post emergent, a lot of them have a “wait this period” until the seed is established.
@@TheGreenerLawn Very good point! I'm going to take a peak at the bag today. May have to f/up w/ another dose of T @ that point. I'm usually good with minimal weeds and such, but I think I may feed the neighbor's yard for best protection.
Great video bro
Always appreciated brother! Love the feedback!
If I put this down now can I seed in fall?
yes! it will only block grass seed for roughly 60-90 days depending on the product. tenacity or meso, you can seed at the same time.
Yes, you will be fine!
@@TheGreenerLawn thanks
@@jordantee2383 any time!
Yes applied today, dimension
Solid choice!
First Striperman
Only Striperman from Long Island. 😎
@@trevormuggeridge4560 Only Striperman period lol :)
Seems like a super man to me!
Another thumbs up . No comment at this time.
All I need brother! You rock! Still can’t wait to talk shop on grass!
Couldn't do the fall app last year since I overseeded, but this fall it's going down!
Get it get it
@@TheGreenerLawn
And, I'd be surprised if any weeds survive through today's application... 😂 🙃🤪
Did anybody ever tell you that your voice sounds like Nikki Sixxs’ from Motley Crue???
Too not going to lie going to look it up right now lol
First?
So true!
Winner, winner.....
Hey Jef! How’s it goin?
Your vid nailed my situation, I put pre-emergent and fert down in the fall and won’t need to do anything but rake and mow until memorial day. Thanks for the informative vid. 👍😎
@@jefchaplin6205 💯 Jef! Exactly, and when it’s time, you can go down!
Looking for any suggestions as I’m pretty new to lawn care.I inherited a lawn when I moved in & it was horrible.Can’t even list everything that was there it was a menu.I broke it down into 4 quarters so I wouldn’t get overwhelmed & was down on my knees more than a $2 prostitute.I hand weeded everything everyday & became obsessed with it.My neighbor thinks I’m a lunatic because I’m always out there & keep telling them to stay off my lawn.Huge pet peeve I’m sure we all have.Anyway I did the best I could until it got to the point where you just need some help in way of pre & post emergents.I have exhausted RUclips watching & researching all I can.At the tale end of this year I got hit with crabgrass & I have had clover & white clover forever.I managed to keep the dandelions under control from hand weeding though.I just couldn’t keep up.I got some prodiamine,quinclorac & tenacity.I’m on almost 2 weeks of my first round of tenacity & it bleached after 6 days.I’m seeing results but it’s now getting into the single digits so I don’t think it’s wise to do a second or possibly 3rd application because by then the snow might be on the ground where I live.I’m glad I watched this video because I was of the understanding that I can do a pre emergent in the fall & spring but was going to wait until spring.According to what I just watched I should get one down to stop that spring attack.I’m gonna do another regardless in the spring but was worried about my core aeration but you covered that.I failed to say I did do an over-seed that’s why I used the tenacity & the lawn was looking A1 until the bleaching effect.My thought is next year when I do another pre emergent at 55 degrees should I mix a bit of tenacity in seeing that if there’s any bleaching it’s early in the year so it will have time to recover then turn to quinclorac for any spot treatments so I don’t bleach the lawn & from what I see quinclorac besides killing crabgrass works on much more.Any advice would be appreciated.Keep up there good work.This was one of the most informative videos I have watched that answered a few very important questions out there in the lawn world.Thanks!
One - glad it helped, two, I think an email convo will be way more informative for you! Mind emailing me? You are on the right path with quite a bit, but I think clarification will assist you!
JeremyofTheGreenerLawn@gmail.com
@@TheGreenerLawn Thanks for the quick reply.
@@Dave-ld3dr 💯, waiting for ya to reach out 👌🏻
What up Jeremy
Terrance my man, what’s going on? Not a whole lot here at TGL, waiting for my season to kick into high gear
Someone spray something on my back yard and killed some of it
Killed most of my backyard