The end of the climb was absolutely hysterical! The failure to get off the bike, the "van der poel", the flipped turtle, the car making sure you weren't dead. Comedy gold
I'm a clydesdale cyclist (I peg the top end of my bike's weight limit), and yea, that's a pretty accurate representation of what it's like. It sucks, but that's also why I ride, to make it suck less.
I’m a bigger guy myself. Was 6:0 225, hired a nutritionist and over 4 months down to 195. Did an 80 mile race last weekend I had done 3 times before. 40 min faster with only a small improvement in power, the rest was weight difference.
I've lost 30 lbs going from 260 to 230 at 6 feet tall myself over the past year. Huge gains at all the local climbs due to an upgrade in bike and the weight loss. I still got to keep all the 250lb+ weight KOMs on Strava! They stay there forever until another 250lb+ guy beats them.
That’s amazing and gives me tons of hope. I’m a bigger guy at 274 and seem to be holding at 12-14mph. Slowly losing weight and my goal is a 100 mile ride. Would love to feel like I’m not dying up a hill.
@@Bigdaddy19714 I spent years trying to lose weight thinking I’ll just workout harder and more and just outwork my bad diet. It was a losing battle. The nutritionist was the game changer. Was shocked, the 1st thing she had me do was eat more and more often but different. I hate salads so she has never once tried to push those on me. She took a few weeks to find out what My tastes are and guided me toward healthy versions of what I like. She even put me on a daily protein shake that I kid you not, taste exactly like chips-ahoy cookies. Turns out I can lose weight, eat what I like and never feel hungry. It’s a win win.
One of the best example of friendship between dudes : constantly talking shit and trolling one another; yet always looking after each other with huge respect. 🤝
Yeah I agree there too. Why is it totally fine to shame someone for being thin or athletic with "you're so skinny, you should eat more", or thinking I'm crazy for wanting to lose fat/weight to be more fit? Then if you say someone is overweight and they should lose some to be healthy, that is a horrible offense? I was shamed plenty for being thin for most of my life, and it's really annoying having that kind of double standard.
from about 2008 to 2014 they used to do some weird and unexplained bike changes just before key moments in races where he would suddenly ride away from the best riders in the world like they were amateurs. You could also see him pressing buttons on the handlebar in a time before electroni shifting. You don't see that happen in bike races after or before that time period. Only one person has ever been caught with a motor in their bike and it was a female semi pro. Who knows ?
@@methylmike In phil's book he mentioned the rumor, Fabian got upset about it and there ended up being a challenge issued and he and phil ultimately went head to head at a fondo they both did, phil has videos about the "drama" and the "race" you can go back and see.
@@kc3718 "You could also see him pressing buttons on the handlebar in a time before electroni shifting." nah, in the most famous "proof" video you see him shifting..
As A fat guy 240 lbs I love this video. I ride 4 hour rides all the time with skinny guy and watch them drop me on the hills. Momentum is your friend when your large. Thanks for the great videos and being willing to see what being large is like. Cheers to you and may the wind be at your back
That might be Phil's most impressive climb, in my book. I've done that one a few times, and the Ridge Park Drive 11%+ section is a serious grind under the best of circumstances. I think I would rip my knees right out of my legs if I tried to get up it with 110 lbs of extra weight on my back. Good stuff, and good fun, Phil and Paul (and Emily, and Creature).
@@charlesborlase2238 - This is in Newport Beach. I think the first (easier) part is San Joaquin Rd. The second, much steeper part, is definitely Ridge Park Rd. www.strava.com/segments/18078476
@@robertwaldren6206 cool. I've done Newport Coast, up from Crystal Cove. that second part looks like it'll make this clydesdale cry. Probably not as bad as the short punch out of Dana Point Harbor (Cove Rd)
@@charlesborlase2238 - It's not quite as steep as Cove Road at Dana Harbor, especially where Cove goes really steep from the turn to the top, but Ridge Park is longer. I'd say that if you can do either, then you can do both, and they're both good challenges in their own way.
I can’t even tell you how long I’ve wanted to see something like this! I’m a TT specialist, former bodybuilder and power lifter. And my wife likes my upper body. Kudos to Phil for even trying!!
I know how you feel. I was about 300 lbs when I got back into cycling. (I am 6'3") I am down to 225 right now. Hills I had to creep up in the easiest gear I can shoot up in my big ring now.
I've ridden some of the same climbs that Phil has ridden and I have to remind myself that he weighs what I weighed in elementary school, so comparisons on Strava have to be given some context. Thanks for making this video to make that context even more interesting!
my cycle to work used to be up a decently steep hill (120 meters climbing) with a 20 kg rucksack every morning for a year. It helps the climbing legs for sure
@@philclarke7712 by not eating like an out of control fat idiot. And riding my bike. No special diet. No trying to do this or that.... just not being a fat idiot and actually moving my body. Thats it
thanks Phil, that was funny. I enjoyed the video right from the start. It was good to watch the two of you poke fun at yourselves. Understanding the German was cherry on the cake
I enjoy the usual videos, but this was something quite different, and I liked it even more! I've always been a decent climber, because I weigh less than 150, but at the same time knowing some of the guys I beat up hills are making way more power. This really puts what they are doing in perspective.
The bike switch was the real coup de grace. Gotta love both Paul and Phil's attitudes throughout this whole thing. At 78 kgs, I love climbing hills but am not very good at it. This video just goes to show if all else fails, buy an e-bike.
I'm not overweight (but heavy compared to a pro cyclist), but seeing Phil suffer and beg for the top like I do on a tough climb was pretty awesome to see!
Damn, that was funny. Being part German myself, it makes sense I was chuckling in lockstep with Paul while Phil was dying 1000 deaths. The schadenfreude was real.
The last hill leading up to my house is 11 through to 14 degrees and I weighed 210 (96 kg). I remember my first few rides I had to do the walk of shame each time. Happy to say I finally had my Rocky moment !!
Being a larger rider also, 225 lbs, my smaller and lighter friends like to ride passed me on the climbs. I always say if they just weight the same! Upside I can beat them on the flats.
@@abone2pick Yeah, dude, neat. 👍 Reading comprehension is important. We're talking about riding with our friends here, not in the TDF. Don't be so serious.
Maaaaaaaaad props Phil! "Quäl, dich du Sau!" (Make yourself suffer, you pig) is a quote from Udo Bölts trying to motivate Jan Ulrich. You obviously suffered and pushed through. Personally I can't believe you didn't cramp up! Enjoy your next ride up a hill with half the weight :))
"No, you're wearing it the rest of the night." Phil laughs. "No, you are." Pulls gun. "Now walk up those four flights of stairs to the dining room at the winery. Who's laughing now, cookie man?"
Me starting cycling while being a pretty fit bigger guy. "Dude my ftp is going to be great i have super strong legs" *does and ftp test and gets 196* 😑
I love this video Phil I know the struggle I used to weigh 471lbs and now I am 179 lbs and although I was 400 plus pounds I rode my bike all the time and man is it a struggle, I just hope others see this video and think twice about chubby cyclist, you are a great sport Phil ...you Rock sir!
True cycling friends are the ones who mock you while you're suffering up a hill, and then ride circles around you when you're at the top puking your guts out!
Hard to sense how good a good rider is. I know that ride. Amazing how fast/smooth he went up with that weight he’s not used to. I guess with those miles, in your legs, it just gets harder without peddling stroke falling apart.
Ha ha ha!!! That’s got to be the funniest episode! Especially since I’m a 135 Kg cyclist. So add an additional 40 lbs. and we can go up GMR. J/K. Great job sir. Appreciate your videos.
I am so bummed! You guys rode right past my house (intersection of Marguerite and Sandcastle)! If I had known you were going to be doing this I would have rode with you to cheer you on! BTW, that is like the only Cat 3 climb in this area!
Great video and sheds great light on the plight of heavy riders. Would love to see one with an ebike calibrated to make someone 260 feel like 180 or 165. More motivation to lose the extra insulation. Great comedy also and way to make public amends for public comments.
Okay. I'm going to give Gaimon some props here. I've ridden at 330 lbs and currently at 250--with much of that as inert weight. I mean--I'd smoke Gaimon on that hill but I do this every single day. The fact that he could finish at all without stroking out is pretty impressive.
I really enjoyed this. I too lost over a 100 lbs cycling in a year, it's been amazing. It would be interesting to put that weight on and cycle like I did the first month, wow that would feel crazy. I'm glad you did it, and not me! Even just carrying a bag of dog food I often think, wow, more than two of these is what I lost. Glad to be in much better shape now! Thanks for sharing.
Pandemic last year? I thought we were currently in one.
Thanks for clarifying for me Phil!
There was a brief period in California where it seemed to be over
@@worstretirementever We were so damn close. Group rides started coming back and boom. New variant.
As much as i love science i also hate it.
GROUP RIDES CAUSED IT I’M TELLING THE CDC
@@worstretirementever DON'T DO IT PHIL. It's all got left for therpy :D
That's what they say.
So your telling me, If I lost 100 pounds I could be a retired pro cyclist
Anythings possible!
If I lost 100 lbs, I'd be a toddler.
@@TheCatAteMyShoe 😂
Yes. That’s what we’re telling you Zinski. Now go retire.
If I lost 100 lbs, I would weight the same as my road bike.
The „suffer you pig“ in German made me giggle.
His Ullrich-motivation was spot on😂
how is it, written down?
@@francoisthomas4930 Quäl' dich, du Sau! (Quäle)
Udo Bölts said that to Ulrich on his winning Tour de France
Classic quote from Udo Bölts to Ullrich in the… 2003(?) Tour.
The end of the climb was absolutely hysterical! The failure to get off the bike, the "van der poel", the flipped turtle, the car making sure you weren't dead. Comedy gold
the Van Der Poel was especially funny after watching last night's Olympic road race.
I'm a clydesdale cyclist (I peg the top end of my bike's weight limit), and yea, that's a pretty accurate representation of what it's like. It sucks, but that's also why I ride, to make it suck less.
I’m a bigger guy myself. Was 6:0 225, hired a nutritionist and over 4 months down to 195. Did an 80 mile race last weekend I had done 3 times before. 40 min faster with only a small improvement in power, the rest was weight difference.
Way to go!
I've lost 30 lbs going from 260 to 230 at 6 feet tall myself over the past year. Huge gains at all the local climbs due to an upgrade in bike and the weight loss. I still got to keep all the 250lb+ weight KOMs on Strava! They stay there forever until another 250lb+ guy beats them.
That’s amazing and gives me tons of hope. I’m a bigger guy at 274 and seem to be holding at 12-14mph. Slowly losing weight and my goal is a 100 mile ride. Would love to feel like I’m not dying up a hill.
Great results👍🏽
@@Bigdaddy19714 I spent years trying to lose weight thinking I’ll just workout harder and more and just outwork my bad diet. It was a losing battle. The nutritionist was the game changer. Was shocked, the 1st thing she had me do was eat more and more often but different. I hate salads so she has never once tried to push those on me. She took a few weeks to find out what My tastes are and guided me toward healthy versions of what I like. She even put me on a daily protein shake that I kid you not, taste exactly like chips-ahoy cookies. Turns out I can lose weight, eat what I like and never feel hungry. It’s a win win.
Finally someone show what the actual performance difference of being a larger rider to a smaller one. Respect the effort.
A good ride always includes "I don't like anything about this. I'm questioning our friendship".
One of the best example of friendship between dudes : constantly talking shit and trolling one another; yet always looking after each other with huge respect. 🤝
@Armel > just like the good ol' days !!
Technically he started it with the skinny shamming Phil’s arms.
I was thinking that.
Ya but come on! Those things are SKIIIIIIINNY!! Lol!!
Completely agree.
Yeah I agree there too. Why is it totally fine to shame someone for being thin or athletic with "you're so skinny, you should eat more", or thinking I'm crazy for wanting to lose fat/weight to be more fit? Then if you say someone is overweight and they should lose some to be healthy, that is a horrible offense? I was shamed plenty for being thin for most of my life, and it's really annoying having that kind of double standard.
It’s fine because he took the piss out of Paul being fat first and they’re friends.
Just when he and Fabian Cancellara had buried the hatchet, he makes another mechanical doping joke.
With a name like that, nothing is cancel-lara
@@methylmike Maybe.
from about 2008 to 2014 they used to do some weird and unexplained bike changes just before key moments in races where he would suddenly ride away from the best riders in the world like they were amateurs. You could also see him pressing buttons on the handlebar in a time before electroni shifting. You don't see that happen in bike races after or before that time period. Only one person has ever been caught with a motor in their bike and it was a female semi pro. Who knows ?
@@methylmike In phil's book he mentioned the rumor, Fabian got upset about it and there ended up being a challenge issued and he and phil ultimately went head to head at a fondo they both did, phil has videos about the "drama" and the "race" you can go back and see.
@@kc3718 "You could also see him pressing buttons on the handlebar in a time before electroni shifting."
nah, in the most famous "proof" video you see him shifting..
As A fat guy 240 lbs I love this video. I ride 4 hour rides all the time with skinny guy and watch them drop me on the hills. Momentum is your friend when your large. Thanks for the great videos and being willing to see what being large is like. Cheers to you and may the wind be at your back
This needs to be a series! Paul and Phil (with added weight) climb mountains! Next up GMR!!!
I think everyone needs a vengeful German screaming at them to "come on!" up every climb
"SHUT UP LEGS AND DO WHAT I TELL YOU"
"Quäl dich, du Sau!" - Fabelhaft!
Also a great book by Udo Bölts. Nice one guys.
I weigh 96kg (about 212lbs). Phil’s face and body aches is me on every hill ever. 👍🥵
Genius Mr Gaimon, absolutely loved that little gem of a story.
That might be Phil's most impressive climb, in my book. I've done that one a few times, and the Ridge Park Drive 11%+ section is a serious grind under the best of circumstances. I think I would rip my knees right out of my legs if I tried to get up it with 110 lbs of extra weight on my back. Good stuff, and good fun, Phil and Paul (and Emily, and Creature).
which climb is this? I'm in Lake Forest....not quite recognizing it. But I wanna climb it.
@@charlesborlase2238 - This is in Newport Beach. I think the first (easier) part is San Joaquin Rd. The second, much steeper part, is definitely Ridge Park Rd. www.strava.com/segments/18078476
@@robertwaldren6206 cool. I've done Newport Coast, up from Crystal Cove.
that second part looks like it'll make this clydesdale cry. Probably not as bad as the short punch out of Dana Point Harbor (Cove Rd)
@@charlesborlase2238 - It's not quite as steep as Cove Road at Dana Harbor, especially where Cove goes really steep from the turn to the top, but Ridge Park is longer. I'd say that if you can do either, then you can do both, and they're both good challenges in their own way.
I can’t even tell you how long I’ve wanted to see something like this! I’m a TT specialist, former bodybuilder and power lifter. And my wife likes my upper body. Kudos to Phil for even trying!!
The person that pulled over must have immediately regretted it once they got a better look
Props on him for being a good samaritan though
lmao this guy is getting his revenge for sure
My cervelo S5 weight limit is 210. I start my rides over the limit and finish underweight lol.
So tall people are always over the limit lol
@@herrar6595 unless you're pro Skinny. Ive been trying to get skinny for 3 years. Why i started biking. I have lost 40lbs so winn.
@@Southerncyclist yeah, I´m 6´3, 180 pounds, but thats cause I have no fat... good luck at 6´5
@@herrar6595 Im 6'3 I used to weigh 185 with peaked out upper body gym muscle. I was lean.
Bro that was the funniest shit ive seen and idk why. U so chill bro, i love it.
I know how you feel. I was about 300 lbs when I got back into cycling. (I am 6'3") I am down to 225 right now. Hills I had to creep up in the easiest gear I can shoot up in my big ring now.
Paul Ripke, who I might remember from Formula1 Mercedes AMG F1 race weekends. Good to see a familiar in my So Cal community!
I'm a 240lb rider, I may be slow up a hill but if you need to move a couch when we get to the top I'm your guy 🤣
I've ridden some of the same climbs that Phil has ridden and I have to remind myself that he weighs what I weighed in elementary school, so comparisons on Strava have to be given some context. Thanks for making this video to make that context even more interesting!
lol the car that backs up to check on him when he's planted firmly to the sidewalk at 16:04
Big calf joke, “Those aren’t calves those are cows.”
Nice Udo Böltz reference at 14:17 😂 "Quäl dich du Sau!!"
Ulle still had a lower cadence by default than Phil with 255 Pounds😂
10:30 I'd literally rather be sitting on it forgetting to unclip, and eating pavement, vs even just seeing it fall over on video! lol
In slow mo! On repeat! Painful viewing
What Phil was Missing in his everesting record. Weight training with a vest. 🤣
True!
my cycle to work used to be up a decently steep hill (120 meters climbing) with a 20 kg rucksack every morning for a year. It helps the climbing legs for sure
Phill was a good sport for doing this, and this is how I feel when I ride with lighter riders; I’m always trying to catch up. 😁
Love that Chopin Waltz. Very fun piece to play.
Really enjoyed that. Have recently expanded, I appreciated the effort.
I'm not volunteering for a repeat of this "experiment" with you.
Great video, Phil. I love Paul. He needs to be in more of your videos!
At my largest I was like 240-245 .... right now I'm like 155 and it feels amazing
thats insane!
WhoA + right on Chad !
Nice to hear that man, keep up the good spirit :)
Wow Chad. Inspirational! How did you do it?
@@philclarke7712 by not eating like an out of control fat idiot. And riding my bike. No special diet. No trying to do this or that.... just not being a fat idiot and actually moving my body. Thats it
thanks Phil, that was funny. I enjoyed the video right from the start. It was good to watch the two of you poke fun at yourselves. Understanding the German was cherry on the cake
As a life long 240ish pound person this is such a fantasy I've always had. Love it!!!!
Phil, you're a good sport for this one.
So was he!
You find that drafting behind the “big guy” is the way to go. I tell folks that I’m breaking wind when I’m in front .. then they back off .. LOL
I enjoy the usual videos, but this was something quite different, and I liked it even more!
I've always been a decent climber, because I weigh less than 150, but at the same time knowing some of the guys I beat up hills are making way more power. This really puts what they are doing in perspective.
The bike switch was the real coup de grace. Gotta love both Paul and Phil's attitudes throughout this whole thing. At 78 kgs, I love climbing hills but am not very good at it. This video just goes to show if all else fails, buy an e-bike.
The Chopin entrance in to the shop - fkn bravo. That was cool.
I’m 210 lbs & as a bigger cyclist this warmed my heart ❤️
“I was praying that car would hit me” 🤣🤣🤣
Such a delight for all the "bigger guyz" out there Thanks for this video!
"I'm getting Cancellara'd over here." Love this whole thing!
I'm not overweight (but heavy compared to a pro cyclist), but seeing Phil suffer and beg for the top like I do on a tough climb was pretty awesome to see!
You two need to do more videos together, I’m in floods of tears laughing!! Especially at the end! 😂😂
This happens to me at the start of every season
lol, „Quäl dich, du sau“ at 14:18 means something like „make yourself suffer, you pig“ in german :D
Might be your best video ever. Honestly.
Damn, that was funny. Being part German myself, it makes sense I was chuckling in lockstep with Paul while Phil was dying 1000 deaths. The schadenfreude was real.
this was your best video yet...more paul content you guys make a solid duo!
I suspect Phil's wedding tackle will be numb until early 2022...
I’d love to try this although on a lesser climb. Props for not actually puking.
As a 230lb mountain biker, I do appreciate this.
The last hill leading up to my house is 11 through to 14 degrees and I weighed 210 (96 kg). I remember my first few rides I had to do the walk of shame each time. Happy to say I finally had my Rocky moment !!
That was awesome! Thanks Phil.
'That's what a big calf feels like." Omg! Lol
Being a larger rider also, 225 lbs, my smaller and lighter friends like to ride passed me on the climbs. I always say if they just weight the same! Upside I can beat them on the flats.
Same and downhill's no competition haha
I call it gravity assist. :-)
@@abone2pick Yeah, dude, neat. 👍 Reading comprehension is important. We're talking about riding with our friends here, not in the TDF. Don't be so serious.
"Everyone should try this".
Ehm, yeah, been "trying" it for a while now and I would rather try your weight instead.
EXACTLY this!
Maaaaaaaaad props Phil!
"Quäl, dich du Sau!"
(Make yourself suffer, you pig)
is a quote from Udo Bölts trying to motivate Jan Ulrich.
You obviously suffered and pushed through.
Personally I can't believe you didn't cramp up! Enjoy your next ride up a hill with half the weight :))
Amazing, you dug deep… hope you do that segment again without said weights 👊🏻
Probably the best video you've put out IMO Phil, the upside down turtle comment had me rolling on the floor... Need more of vids like these!
"He's just fat" Lol @Phil Gaimon
The funniest Video on RUclips i saw in a looooong time. ‚Quäl Dich du Sau‘ was just the right term! Awesome!😂😁👍
best yet Phil, enough to bring me back.... more for the every day man thx
"No, you're wearing it the rest of the night."
Phil laughs.
"No, you are." Pulls gun. "Now walk up those four flights of stairs to the dining room at the winery. Who's laughing now, cookie man?"
Nice that you know how we 200 lb plus guys feel on hills.... Oh and when you are pushing 6'4" like me, you are also a big sail when it is windy....
He is a tough coach... funny stuff. Thanks for sharing. Peace
Thank you for doing this, hopefully it shows a lot of people what heavier riders deal with.
"He's OK, he's just fat!"
Phil 'Lactigo: You put it after, I like to put it before' Gaimon
Me starting cycling while being a pretty fit bigger guy. "Dude my ftp is going to be great i have super strong legs"
*does and ftp test and gets 196*
😑
I love this video Phil I know the struggle I used to weigh 471lbs and now I am 179 lbs and although I was 400 plus pounds I rode my bike all the time and man is it a struggle, I just hope others see this video and think twice about chubby cyclist, you are a great sport Phil ...you Rock sir!
15:19 that sweat drop lol
Yo Phil you should really use a blinking tail light on busy roads like that so you have more visibility.
@12:21. nice weather up here right. Just what you don’t want to hear😂. Brilliant timing
True cycling friends are the ones who mock you while you're suffering up a hill, and then ride circles around you when you're at the top puking your guts out!
Vibes of getting viciously heckled by your friends during a cross race. 😀
Paul, you're the man!
This might be the best video ever! Welcome to the world of us regular humans. I love Paul, would love to slog up a hill with him!!!
Hard to sense how good a good rider is. I know that ride. Amazing how fast/smooth he went up with that weight he’s not used to. I guess with those miles, in your legs, it just gets harder without peddling stroke falling apart.
Ha ha ha!!! That’s got to be the funniest episode! Especially since I’m a 135 Kg cyclist. So add an additional 40 lbs. and we can go up GMR. J/K. Great job sir. Appreciate your videos.
Best episode ever. Paul is fantastic, I hope to see him again.
Revenge is dish best served heavy on a steep hill - laugh my f*ucking ass off - SOLID GOLD.
That was awesome to watch!
This is just too funny 😂 thanks for making this. It really made me laugh.
Phil had to be Houdini at the end. What a great sport.
This is entertaining as hell. Chapeaux to Paul on that one.
Oh man the fire hydrant. I've hurt myself to get there so many times.
I am so bummed! You guys rode right past my house (intersection of Marguerite and Sandcastle)! If I had known you were going to be doing this I would have rode with you to cheer you on! BTW, that is like the only Cat 3 climb in this area!
Great video and sheds great light on the plight of heavy riders. Would love to see one with an ebike calibrated to make someone 260 feel like 180 or 165. More motivation to lose the extra insulation. Great comedy also and way to make public amends for public comments.
Super video! Thanks...made me chuckle 🇬🇧
this was a fun idea at first then later i felt so bad for Phil
Gold! One of your best episodes.
When the car stops, “He’s just fat!” 😂
Okay. I'm going to give Gaimon some props here. I've ridden at 330 lbs and currently at 250--with much of that as inert weight. I mean--I'd smoke Gaimon on that hill but I do this every single day. The fact that he could finish at all without stroking out is pretty impressive.
I really enjoyed this. I too lost over a 100 lbs cycling in a year, it's been amazing. It would be interesting to put that weight on and cycle like I did the first month, wow that would feel crazy. I'm glad you did it, and not me! Even just carrying a bag of dog food I often think, wow, more than two of these is what I lost. Glad to be in much better shape now! Thanks for sharing.