Thank you! I cut and crimped all 11 leads, taped and packed back under seat. Very good video. Note: to save time and frustration, you elect to use the un-damaged ground pin on the control module. Also, senates will not test unless car is actually running.
Thanks for sharing this video! I used what I learned from you to investigate and repair my connector in my expedition - and only had to splice one wire. Thank you!!
Nice fix aXe!! I like it factory as much as possible too! easy to trace down the wires. Enjoyed watching! have a good one and glad you got it fixed! Your tushy is glad too! LOL!!
Great explanation of what my problem is and how to fix it! Thanks! Looking forward to the next video you mentioned about the back up camera problem. I'm also having that issue.
I'm about to break down and finally fix it. My temporary fix is to set the park break and put it in reverse with the engine off. And then go around back and thump on the rear door above the camera looking through the rear glass until the monitor works properly again.
One of two things. Either the circuit draws more current than the connector pin was rated for. Or the connector pins have some manufacturing defect and they’re not making good contact when mated together. Either way it’s creates a hot spot there because a connection like that is higher resistance than the wire itself.
You didn’t show what had to happen at the module where you attempted your temporary fix. Could you quickly explain what you had to do there? Loved your video as I have the same problem I’m looking to fixing it. Ford wants $1,100 to fix.
I had a mechanic friend work on this and he said it was done but it still doesnt work. It looks like he swapped the wires like you did but not sure if he put them in the same place. Is there a colored wiring diagram for the connector.
I have a 2010 F150 Platinum. The seat is not bolted down with torx bolts. Instead they are bolted down with 15mm bolts. Have not started the job yet but when I do if there's more different I will leave another comment advising of those differences.
Thanks for the video. I'm in the same boat. Ford told me I need the control module and the pigtail connector for over $1,100. I only have one burnt out wire (one on the connector and one of the tabs on the module.) Just confirming you only worked on the harness and didn't replace the entire module?
Hey Axe, thanks for the video. That is likely my problem too... so what did you do about the messed up pins (that you soldered) on your heated seat module? Did you have to replace that too? Thanks for any info.
Mine lights up but the heat does not seat up. I just spent 45 minutes looking underneath, where the actual module is supposed to be, the memory seat module is. I cannot even find the heated seat module! Any advice?
My driver seat warmer will stay on for about 30-60 seconds then the light turns off. The air still works and the passenger side both work. Would this still possibly be the issuer or would it be something else?
So if the drivers side heated seat isn’t working, the connector under the passenger seat is the one that will typically arc and burn out the connection?
@@SkylarHillShop yes. And recently we lost power to the drivers seat moving forward backward up down etc. I disconnected the negative battery cable and reconnected it and it started working again, but now this.
On my 2015 Ford lariat my driver side heated seat and the back of it starting not to work but the bottom did and now like a month later the back heats reallygood but now bottom of the seat don’t heats would with that be my problem. Thank you
It would be different than the issue I was having. But I would assume it's still a wiring issue. Possibly inside the seat itself? Or maybe the harness underneath of it. I would try moving the harness around and seeing if that changes anything.
Is that module called the “Teds” module? I have a 2003 Expedition Eddie Bauer that has the cooled and heated seats, Ford says it needs a new teds module but Ford doesn’t make them anymore so they couldn’t fix it. I’m wondering if this would be the same issue but the comments are all from newer Expeditions and F150’s.
What if my I'll say "original"even though it's been replaced connector is missing a wire connection. I believe it hold the place for the driver side. Can I just move one of the connectors I to that spot?
You left out the most important part. Excellent video except you didn’t tie the added ground wire to the other one. In other words yours will fail again unless you didn’t show it???? Other than that excellent video
The original only had one ground wire. The new replacement has two to handle the load. You left the second added wire loose. You have to splice the added ground wire in . That is the fix for the defect from the factory. It needs more Ground. Sure it will work like you have it for a while
I replaced both of the wires going to the melted pins. At 13:00 you can see the other one that is stripped. That's where the other wire went. Sorry I didnt film all of it. Did you buy the motorcraft plug of aftermarket?
It's going to need some diagnostic work. I would start by checking to see if you have power and ground in and out of the switch. If so I would check to see if you're getting power and ground to the heating element in the seat
After a shop took seats out to change my carpet, my heated/cooled seats didnt work and ALL of the cig lighters stopped working (the way we charge phnes). Does anyone know if the cig light connections are below the seat as well? It can not be a coincidence.
Were both your driver and passenger seat warmer/coolers not working? My passenger works fine but my driver is doing exactly what yours did.curious if I have the same problem
@@thor777mx not yet but honestly it's my wife's car so I keep forgetting about it so I haven't tried anything yet. But with your comment reminding me of the issue, and now that it's getting damn cold, I think I'm gonna try something soon. I'll try to remember to let you know
@@crwnc1775 ya let me know! it is on my wife’s Explorer, I’ll probably peek under the passenger seat soon and see if the plug is melted, it just stopped working today.
So guess my plug on my 2016 Explorer is in my fuse box, pulled it and the pins weren’t melted. So I’m guessing it the heating element it’s self is the problem. That’s good because I guess you can’t but the plug it’s self for that year, you have to buy the whole wiring harness.
Mine actually already had two ground wires so I just connected them to the corresponding wires. I believe you were supposed to hook them together with the one original ground wire? I don't remember for sure the instruction sheet had details about it. Sorry I forgot exactly what I did.
I would guess the heating element has gone bad. You could unplug it at the driver's seat and check for voltage. I've never done it, but I'm sure a quick Google search would point you in the right direction.
Thanks for the tip to slide off the face plate of the plug and pop out the existing good leads. Saved me time.
Thank you! I cut and crimped all 11 leads, taped and packed back under seat. Very good video. Note: to save time and frustration, you elect to use the un-damaged ground pin on the control module. Also, senates will not test unless car is actually running.
Excellent!! Just got an Expedition today and have this exact problem, glad to know how to fix it so easily!
Thanks for posting the part number and the control module location. Got my dads seats heated and cooling.
Thank you! This was my exact problem with my 2010. Picked up the part from Ford, my mechanic installed for $45, and both heat and cool work again!
You better hang onto that mechanic if he only charged you $45 to install it!
Thank you for this video. You have made my wife’s winter driving enjoyable again.
Thanks for sharing this video! I used what I learned from you to investigate and repair my connector in my expedition - and only had to splice one wire. Thank you!!
Glad I could help!
Great video! Fixed my wife's 2013 Expedition following your instructions in this video! THANKS!
You're welcome I'm sure she's happy. No one likes a cold butt!
Nice work! Just ordered that pigtail, saved me the troubleshooting. I just have the one corner pin melted.
Gotta say one of the best tutorials ive ever watched. Good job bud.
Thanks for the kind words. I'm glad I got mine fixed today's low is -15°.
Nice fix aXe!! I like it factory as much as possible too! easy to trace down the wires. Enjoyed watching! have a good one and glad you got it fixed! Your tushy is glad too! LOL!!
Thanks, I've never had heated seats before this vehicle. They've made me soft.
Genius! Thx very much! I'll be doing this exact procedure on my 2013 Taurus.
I can't wait to fix my seats, I did the drill hack to on the ground but it doesn't hold after moving the seat a bunch, thank you!
Thank you for the video! The heated/cooled seats just went out on my 2014 Expedition with about 82,000 miles on it. Looking forward to warmth again. 😁
Thank you for your video! Easy fix for my 2017 Expedition.
Glad to help!
Wow thank just bought 2006 f150 with leather seats didn’t no what those buttons were for Gonna be nice in the winter 😂😂
Thanks man! Fixed my 2015 explorer. Really liked the idea of unpinning, worked great and fixed it quick!
Thanks very much for the excellent explanation-
Great explanation of what my problem is and how to fix it! Thanks! Looking forward to the next video you mentioned about the back up camera problem. I'm also having that issue.
I'm about to break down and finally fix it. My temporary fix is to set the park break and put it in reverse with the engine off. And then go around back and thump on the rear door above the camera looking through the rear glass until the monitor works properly again.
Very good instructions and video 😊
Dont you have to merge teh 2 black wore that goes to the 1 ground wire (existing wire) ?
But why does this happen? Great video as my seats just started doing this. Now I know the fix!
I believe it's a simple design flaw from the factory
One of two things. Either the circuit draws more current than the connector pin was rated for. Or the connector pins have some manufacturing defect and they’re not making good contact when mated together. Either way it’s creates a hot spot there because a connection like that is higher resistance than the wire itself.
Doing this now. Wish me luck!
You didn’t show what had to happen at the module where you attempted your temporary fix. Could you quickly explain what you had to do there? Loved your video as I have the same problem I’m looking to fixing it. Ford wants $1,100 to fix.
I had a mechanic friend work on this and he said it was done but it still doesnt work. It looks like he swapped the wires like you did but not sure if he put them in the same place. Is there a colored wiring diagram for the connector.
I have a 2010 F150 Platinum. The seat is not bolted down with torx bolts. Instead they are bolted down with 15mm bolts. Have not started the job yet but when I do if there's more different I will leave another comment advising of those differences.
Thanks for the video. I'm in the same boat. Ford told me I need the control module and the pigtail connector for over $1,100. I only have one burnt out wire (one on the connector and one of the tabs on the module.) Just confirming you only worked on the harness and didn't replace the entire module?
That is correct.
Super helpful !
The second ground wire did you add that one or was that factory?
Hey Axe, thanks for the video. That is likely my problem too... so what did you do about the messed up pins (that you soldered) on your heated seat module? Did you have to replace that too? Thanks for any info.
They ended up being ok. I was able to remove all the solder from them. You shouldn't have any issues with that side of the connector.
Mine lights up but the heat does not seat up. I just spent 45 minutes looking underneath, where the actual module is supposed to be, the memory seat module is. I cannot even find the heated seat module! Any advice?
Did your heated seat switches light up thanks
My driver seat warmer will stay on for about 30-60 seconds then the light turns off. The air still works and the passenger side both work. Would this still possibly be the issuer or would it be something else?
I would assume it's something else. Sorry not sure which direction to point you in.
What if only the driver side heater/ac light kicks off immediately? Could it be the same connector possibly?
I have the same question, anyone know of there is just one module under passenger seat or if there is another under the drivers? Thanks
Did you have to replace the T.E.D module?
nice saw
So if the drivers side heated seat isn’t working, the connector under the passenger seat is the one that will typically arc and burn out the connection?
Is the passenger seat still working?
@@SkylarHillShop yes. And recently we lost power to the drivers seat moving forward backward up down etc. I disconnected the negative battery cable and reconnected it and it started working again, but now this.
On my 2015 Ford lariat my driver side heated seat and the back of it starting not to work but the bottom did and now like a month later the back heats reallygood but now bottom of the seat don’t heats would with that be my problem. Thank you
It would be different than the issue I was having. But I would assume it's still a wiring issue. Possibly inside the seat itself? Or maybe the harness underneath of it. I would try moving the harness around and seeing if that changes anything.
I had the blower fan seat replaced worked for like a year. Now both front seats don’t heat but the switches light up.
Is that module called the “Teds” module? I have a 2003 Expedition Eddie Bauer that has the cooled and heated seats, Ford says it needs a new teds module but Ford doesn’t make them anymore so they couldn’t fix it. I’m wondering if this would be the same issue but the comments are all from newer Expeditions and F150’s.
Not sure what it's called
What if my I'll say "original"even though it's been replaced connector is missing a wire connection. I believe it hold the place for the driver side. Can I just move one of the connectors I to that spot?
You shouldn't have to move pins around in the connector.
Hi, where did you get that tool from and what’s it called? Thank you
Are you referring to the depending tool? I'm not sure where I got it.
You left out the most important part. Excellent video except you didn’t tie the added ground wire to the other one. In other words yours will fail again unless you didn’t show it???? Other than that excellent video
The original only had one ground wire. The new replacement has two to handle the load. You left the second added wire loose. You have to splice the added ground wire in . That is the fix for the defect from the factory. It needs more Ground. Sure it will work like you have it for a while
I don't see how the additional wire will help. If I remember correctly both wires shared the same pin in the connector.
@@jdcontracting1805 is Y'ing the ground wire from the harness to the 2 pins on the module the fix?
@@SkylarHillShop
It actually has two pins both grounded to circuit board. One is unused from factory
@@SkylarHillShop it spreads the ground over 2 legs instead of 1 that's why it over heats, you have to splice it together
I followed your video exactly.
Heated and cool seat still not working.
Suggestions.
To clarify the lights flash and go off when you press the button?
@@SkylarHillShop Correct. I've checked fuses and I've also rewired a few times.
I wonder if the module itself is bad. I hate just guessing. But if you have power and ground at the module I'm not sure what else it could be.
If both seats are out do I need to do it under both seats or is the moduale only under the passenger side?
Its only under the passenger seat.
@@SkylarHillShop thank you!!
Excellent video. On my 07 expedition my red lights work but I get very little heat and it takes a long time to warm. Know what THAT problem might be?
My best guess would be the heating element itself is probably bad.
what did u do with the second wire? just dangling
I replaced both of the wires going to the melted pins. At 13:00 you can see the other one that is stripped. That's where the other wire went. Sorry I didnt film all of it. Did you buy the motorcraft plug of aftermarket?
Only passenger seat is not heating or cooling on my 2016 explorer limited. What do I do for that?
It's going to need some diagnostic work. I would start by checking to see if you have power and ground in and out of the switch. If so I would check to see if you're getting power and ground to the heating element in the seat
After a shop took seats out to change my carpet, my heated/cooled seats didnt work and ALL of the cig lighters stopped working (the way we charge phnes). Does anyone know if the cig light connections are below the seat as well? It can not be a coincidence.
Definitely not a coincidence, something was left disconnected
@@SkylarHillShop i went to.oreillys today and bought the t55 torx thingy..so will see
Were both your driver and passenger seat warmer/coolers not working? My passenger works fine but my driver is doing exactly what yours did.curious if I have the same problem
Neither one of mine were working
Mine just started doing the same thing, did you find a fix?
@@thor777mx not yet but honestly it's my wife's car so I keep forgetting about it so I haven't tried anything yet. But with your comment reminding me of the issue, and now that it's getting damn cold, I think I'm gonna try something soon. I'll try to remember to let you know
@@crwnc1775 ya let me know! it is on my wife’s Explorer, I’ll probably peek under the passenger seat soon and see if the plug is melted, it just stopped working today.
So guess my plug on my 2016 Explorer is in my fuse box, pulled it and the pins weren’t melted. So I’m guessing it the heating element it’s self is the problem. That’s good because I guess you can’t but the plug it’s self for that year, you have to buy the whole wiring harness.
Sorry, I know this is an old thread, but what do you hook the new 2nd ground wire to?
Mine actually already had two ground wires so I just connected them to the corresponding wires. I believe you were supposed to hook them together with the one original ground wire? I don't remember for sure the instruction sheet had details about it. Sorry I forgot exactly what I did.
Thank you!
When is the class action lawsuit against Ford going to pay for all this?
It worked but only for about 2 weeks. Smelled burnt plastic after a few uses and now it doesn’t work again. Wasted $50.
This too bad, mines just fine. You must have another underlying issue causing the heating elements to pull too much load.
What’s the part number
FOMOCO part # WPT 928
Someone told me it has to also be program
15326110 Aptiv (formerly Delphi) | Mouser
So heated seat doesnt work - But my botton stays on...?
Do either of the seats work?
@@SkylarHillShop yes the pass side works. And when pushing the button on driver side the lights will stay on however no heat
I would guess the heating element has gone bad. You could unplug it at the driver's seat and check for voltage. I've never done it, but I'm sure a quick Google search would point you in the right direction.
@@SkylarHillShop thanks!
Do you have both heated and cooled seats on our vehicle, or heat only?