17:59, to be honest this is the best what could have happened to trolls. Having a dungeon/raid in almost every expansion kept them relevant to the story and give us a lot of lore. If you even think about it trolls and orcs have the most expanded and flash put lore and history. Compare to humans who were relegated to "adventures of Wrynn family and friends," "lol, poison gas" Forsaken and "safe us mighty human" night elves, being turned into loot pinata isnt the worst fate.
The one thing that the bald one and Zuljin have in common is that they never switch their shirts. But atleast its known fact in the lore that Zuljin got the Mailmuncher... unlike the literal mount(-competition-loser-)god.
this channel has quickly turned into my favourite source for WoW lore on the internet. while the writing is clear, funny and super easy to listen to, it's the amount of effort you put into the visuals that really sells everything :D
Totally agree. I enjoy his videos and Madseasonshow's videos. Certainty beats watching someone with a pink-hair style and a overly fake personality, am I right? :P
To add insult to injury even thrall hates them in warcraft 3 one of the first lines is "forest trolls I can't believe they used to be apart of the horde"
"Oh! Come in, come in! Please feel free to look around! I've got all sorts of exotic goods, imported from the islands of Kul'tiras to the flame pits of the Hellfire Peninsula! Zul'jin's rarities are renown throughout the lands of Lordaeron! If you have any questions about the merchandise, just ask me."
One thing I would like to add to your video is that, despite Vol'jin eventually regaining his regeneration at the end of it, in Shadows of the Horde, Vol'jin does in fact not regenerate the huge hole in throat because of his own self doubts. So, perhaps, despite his engagement, maybe Zul'jin had doubts about his ability to squash the high elves even though he continuously rallied against them.
@@cegesh1459 Two days ago I reread the section in Shadows of the Horde where Vol'jin and Tarzan Zhu discuss what is keeping the troll from healing and Vol'jin had this to say: He no longer felt like a troll he thought that part of him had died in the cave, with the dagger in his throat, and was desperately trying to prove to everyone around him that he could still be the troll he was before. It was doubt. One hundred percent.
@@laverathanf2073 No it wasn't. Like it wasn't doupt for Apari either, it was determination. In Vol'jin case we learn word for word that he held on to it as a remindet to himself. And Vol'jin overcame all this bs. You are wrong.
Arathi Humans: OK, convince us to side with either of you. Amani: We be keepin' away from humons since Tyr slew da dark beast in da glades, possibly savin' our loa from corruption, but we need ya support against dese elves who sundered de world. Elves: We'll give you *B I G F I R E* Arathi: LFM ZA, need heals. Amani: Dude.
I'll never forget the first time I encountered Zul'jin playing Warcraft 2 as a kid. The character and his voice effects were so badass. It's a shame that Zul'jin and the Amani were relegated to villains and punching bags throughout the remainder of Warcraft lore. Thanks for setting the record straight Platinum. Now the people know the TRUTH!
"This is OUR land! You wanna stay? You stay here forever! ...we gonna bury you here..." Man, Zul'Jin is such an underrated character. That line still gives me chills.
*90% of the High Elves died in the Scourge Invasion* Then you look up that the population of High Elves in Stormwind is higher than the entire population of Orgrimmar.
@Cegesh Yea those numbers were before the darkspear rebellion which obviously would cause orgimmars population to boom right? The horde was way smaller than the alliance to start with and they have only lost wars and had rebellions since...remember 2 horde cities are now raids and they lost another. The only reason the horde exists at all is due to plot armor because by all rights the alliance should be able to take them out with just the dwarfs at this point.
"2 other elves, whose names are not important." ah yes, including one elf that sold the runes out to the lich king causing over 90% of the high elf population to be decimated and the sunwell destroyed not important
Zul'Jin: "Wow mon, i really am glad that zat dose elves bastards i captured didn't die. They killed all d'er own elves for me! Hahahahaha~" And that was the last happy moment Zul'Jin ever got, as he then realized that this one success of his entire existence was completely accidental because the universe hates the Amani tribe.
Zul'jin was a hero. If there's one character I didn't want to kill, it was him. I rescued him in WC2, and they ask me to murder him ten years later? BTW, Amani allied race or burst.
We have the Zandalari already though... I think there should be a third faction. Because the Amani would never join the Horde or the Alliance due to both factions having the high/blood elves.
Amani should absolutely NOT be an allied race, neither of the factions are worthy of the alliance of the Amani. The Alliance helped brutally repress the Amani and while they may have had a few good guy like Garithos who treated Elves like the vermin they are, that doesn't mean they deserve forgiveness. And the Horde chose to ally with the scumfuck High Elves and still maintain that alliance to this day, absolute no go.
@@Dranwulf Isn't there a green tint for Trolls in SL? So all we need is just a BUFF Troll option (maybe like switching between Up-right and not, Orcs), and BOOM, you got yourself an Amani (in your headcannon). Because we pretty much can make Dark Trolls, Zul'Farakk trolls and other tribes through SL customisation AND Ion did say that ("We don't necessarily have to add allied race, if you have customisation optians and HEADCANNON").
@@max7971 no, there were plenty of them on massive land piece, but they didn't conquer anyone. They simply were first to live on Azeroth from all "humanoid" races and fought aliens and titan creations after they took their lands
Zul'jin never healed his eye or regrew his arm for two reasons: 1: He was pretty old, so his regenerative powers ain't what they used to be. 2: Especially traumatic injuries can hinder their ability to heal. Even in the real world this happens, such as after people taking a blow to the head the hair growing back white or not growing back at all because of the trauma. Whether it be emotional trauma or hatred, Zul'jin's healing was scuppered by his inner turmoil.
No, blizzard are just terrible at their own lore. In BfA there are clear situations where a troll has regenerated massive damage in mere seconds during combat, such as an entirely shattered jaw or disembowlment. It has nothing to do with emotional trauma. In lore it states a troll can regenerate at will, this means they can literally regenerate anything with a thought. Unless a troll suffers a killing blow to the head or heart, they will regenerate should they want to. This even goes for fire, fire damage DOES regenerate, but at a slower pace.
Damn trolls need more love in this world, like they got backstabbed or trashed by every race on azeroth simply because they existed and wanetd to make troll empire great again
Anybody else realise that Trolls are one of two (playable) races, along with Tauren that are actually native to Azeroth? Orcs and Draenei are from Draenor originally, Dwarven, Gnomes and Humans (and therefor also Undead) were originally titan constructs afflicted with the curse of flesh. Technically the Elven races could qualify, but they were originally Trolls that evolved due to their proximity to the Well of Eternity, which was the result of, you guessed it, the battle of Titans and Old Gods, therefor also not a natural native species of Azeroth.
@@CaptainSweatpants90 There also are Pandarens, but we dont really know if they are Celestial's creation just like Titans "made humans, dverfs and gnomes" and Wild gods made their own race minions: Agamaggan -> Quillboar, unknown Bull Ancient (Niuzao???) -> Tanuki -> Tauren, etc.
An interesting fact to take into consideration: the troll language is composed of many short words, often compounded together. This shows in troll names as a short given name (i.e. "Vol") and an honorific tagged on to the front or back (i.e. "'jin": elder or chieftain). Zul'jin isn't a name, it's a title: "zul" meaning the great and "jin" as seen above. Therefore he is "the great chieftain".
I memorized the literal words and can recite it on command for patch 2.3 "Gods of Zul'Aman". Not only do I not believe Zul'jin did anything wrong, I hold him up as one of the shining kings of the Old Horde... and why Trolls are one of my all time favorite races in the game. Yes, every criticism leveled against them (being losers, not having really much in the way of relevance in the current meta)... everything about them is why I first fell in love with the game. In my old Vanilla days, I was named the Loremaster of Lordaeron (specialty: Trolls) and gave tours to the young uns on the lore. I loved the lore and I specifically fell more and more in love with the game over time as these characters showed up. Zul'jin is still one of my top favorite characters in the lore (to the point I still play HoTs so I can play him and get my team to rage quit because I am objectively shit at that game).
R.I.P. my brothers from another mother. You'll all be remembered in Troll History, as the heroes who tried their hardest to fight back and reclaim our home.
Does anybody here know what Shungite is? No not Suge Knight, I think he's locked up in prison. Talking shungite. Anyways, it's like a two billion year old.. like rock... stone... that protect against frequencies and unwanted frequencies that may be traveling in the air. That's my story, I bought a whole bunch of stuff, put them around la casa, little pyramids, stuff like that.
But Blood Elves were High Elves before and High Elves were Nightelves/Elves before and Nightelves/Elves were Dark Trolls before. In that case the Elves are kind of natives too.
@@holobolo454 on the pre-retcon lore, Nigth Elves were creation of Elune, totally separated from Trolls. And if i remember it correctly, it was Illidan who take the vial, and Dathremar escape with it, while Illidan was caught by Malfurion and then imprisoned
It was before I started playing wow but the "Gods of Zul'Aman" trailer is one of the best wow cinematics I've seen and it made me love zul'jin. Great video, I wish Amani could be an allied race or something but I don't think it would make any sense.
They figured out how to cram dark iron dwarves into the Alliance lol I can fly 1 zone over from SW and do gear repairs with dark iron dwarves as a Hordie. It just tool the Dark Iron Dwarves having solid leadership even if the politics of them entering the Alliance wasn't pretty. Besides Hordes made up of desperate dying races, Amani definitely fit the criteria
Imagine being the most sympathetic race in the Horde but Blizzard wants to retcon the other green boys into being the good ones. So they just call you Evil in the War3 manual and replace you with some blue guys instead. I’m still mad.
This why I play Turtle WoW as a Alliance High Elf and a Goblin Horde .. those 2 races should have been at 2004 Launch.. Blood Elves on the Horde took away the Horde intimidation factor they orginal had , current Retail WoW Horde are more Elf-Centric with a few Panda Bears lol
Random student of International Relations passing by to say, now that the Amani are a client State of the Zandalari Empire, and with their alliance with the horde, this has some massive geopolitical implications, the horde is pretty much a superpower in North of the Eastern Kingdoms, and at the sea, having easy access to Zandalar and Suramar, and don't forget about Highmountain, which would give them across to resources, and land, and the North of the Jade Forrest, which is close to Zandalar giving them a thigh gripe in the region... The horde is a fucking superpower now, and Zandalar, and the old troll empires are key to that.
This part that people don't fully grasp. The Alliance got void elves so what a couple hundred void corrupted Belves lol If QT and ZA were united the Horde would have North Eastern Kingdom sewn up and have easy routes between them all. Theres also the Raventusk Trolls in the Hinterlands that are in the Horde as well. We haven't even seen where the Foresaken will relocate to either
@@CampaignerSC Yes, lets steamroll civilizations with less war power (less war power is not being an inferior civilization), destroy they culture, take their lands and make propaganda saying that they were evil savages just because we do not understand their context. You think that being able to conquer other civilizations makes you better when in reality each civilization is different and good in their own way, everything that you say is from a modern, propagandist point of view that portrays the loosers as inferior when in reality it is just the one with the stronger weapon wins, not the superior
@@willhem5668 "Lets?" I'm not part of your pathetic hivemind mentality; I'm an individual, not some member of an insect group that feels pride or guilt over the actions of other human beings that I hold no control over. I can make fun of any hilariously ironic belief system I wish to make fun of.
I love how everytime a Troll fights a human the human pulls out some kinda last minute nuke to stop the Troll advance. I am beginning to think the lore might not have always been quite as strong as we liked to think.
I always found it fucked up that as horde we didn't allied with the Amani trolls, but with the blood elves, just to play nice with Sylvanas, and lo and behold a solid decade later we all paid the price
the only reason at the time was because a large amount of players from china were asking better looking races or they dont play as horde, and its still the most popular horde race today kinda sad, i just dont feel right playing as a blood elf, they're one of the worst kind of elf in the fantasy
This was a solid video, kudos there, I am heartened to see the Amani getting some respect & sympathy. Though I'll note that if I recall the Amani didn't attack the elves until they'd settled on sacred lands & that the Sunwell originally had no Light magics. Also I am surprised Zanza and his "Arcanum" wasn't mentioned. On the subject of other videos on trolls, I hope the highly advanced magic and sustainability of the Drakkari gets some regard. They got screwed in canon, but if you actually look at their accomplishments they built a city the size of a country as big as Gilnease under incredibly frigid circumstances & yet somehow produced a surplus of food, had epic sized homes, a functional military, & incredible magics. They even brought down a Necropolis when it attacked them and seemed to only start losing to the Scourge thanks to internal betrayal & sabotage from the Argent Dawn & Zandalari, & even then, before the latter got there, they had seemingly been able to drive off the Scourge or stop its advance.
what do you think their push towards "Blizzard's AI/Machine Learning system used to validate player reports around offensive behavior" is all about, anti-troll sentiment
Great video, especially the fitting music choice at 13:46 😊 Did you know that piece, "The Morning", was written for a drama play called "Peer Gynt", in which trolls appear? I personally found it amazing! P.s. Zul'jin is a sweety, why they made him cry? Jeez, I wanna hug him 🤗 but, since I am human, he will kill me😅
How did I just find this channel. I haven't played in a while, vanilla to mists of pandaria. But hands down, one of the most entertaining channels I've come across. Great stuff!
Hey! I'd love to see a lore series on cenarion circle, brood of nozdormu, druids and night elves in general with a focus on how they relate to the events of Vanilla / Classic. Thank you! Great lore vids I subscribed because of them.
High Elves/Blood Elves - "We need allies. I know, let's go ally ourselves with those monsters that nearly destroyed Silvermoon back in the Second War. That makes sense, right? ... riiiiiiiight?"
My all characters are trolls. I've always wanted to join Zul'Gurub, Zul'Aman or any other REAL troll factions. When we finally got Zandalar in BFA... well, we all know.
The High Elves probably enchanted their weapons for fire damage, that's why his eye didn't grow back. Zul'jin might have taken one of their blades to cut off his arm... but honestly, I could believe the dude CHEWED through it to get free.
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All troll empires have great lore....Zul'jin is damn badass
17:59, to be honest this is the best what could have happened to trolls. Having a dungeon/raid in almost every expansion kept them relevant to the story and give us a lot of lore. If you even think about it trolls and orcs have the most expanded and flash put lore and history. Compare to humans who were relegated to "adventures of Wrynn family and friends," "lol, poison gas" Forsaken and "safe us mighty human" night elves, being turned into loot pinata isnt the worst fate.
Zul'jin may have lost an arm and an eye, but at least he still had hair.
Asmonbald?
@@KW-tx6er More like AsmonMALD
I know of someone with... less hair
The one thing that the bald one and Zuljin have in common is that they never switch their shirts. But atleast its known fact in the lore that Zuljin got the Mailmuncher... unlike the literal mount(-competition-loser-)god.
When he said "Look at you, you monster" and the screen went black I saw my own reflection I almost jumped lmao
Lmfao been there
Dam that Meta lol
8 Dungeons/Raids, if they dont want to be wiped out they shouldnt drop Loot.
"Oof owie, mah bones, mon!"
Poor Zul'jin, you just have to feel bad for him.
"No'buddy sadder den me!!!"
Sadge
I can't believe High Elves mastered the holy spell of Bone Hurting Light and didn't think to share it with anyone
I just heard that part and it was delivered so hilariously
arthus: taking silvermoon
zul'jin: POGGERS
arthas*
this channel has quickly turned into my favourite source for WoW lore on the internet. while the writing is clear, funny and super easy to listen to, it's the amount of effort you put into the visuals that really sells everything :D
Totally agree. I enjoy his videos and Madseasonshow's videos. Certainty beats watching someone with a pink-hair style and a overly fake personality, am I right? :P
+1 thing: no strange accent. I really respect nobbel for example for his work, but the accent and way of speaking just feels off.
@@Ordo1980 I never understood if he did it on purpose because he likes how Draenei talk or something. Maybe he can't control it but I dunno.
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same!!!!!!!! even theres no any video that i dont lough.
"Heres the story of how the trolls were screwed over. Right. Let's start"
*holds breath*
"It begins with the Night Elves"
every time.
Elves are a plague uppon troll kind!
@@manolgeorgiev9664 Elves are a plague among all azeroth mate, they do nothing but destroy and get corrupted
Fun fact, night elves were actually a race of dark trolls who discovered well o eternity....
@@victor-alexandru_popescu well of eternity doomed us for all eternity
Its funny that the Night Elves would also suffer the same effect as the Troll cause there technically Descended to Trolls
My friend: Wait, it's all trolls?
Me and PlatinumWoW: Always has been.
This is now my favorite comment.
Lmfao
What about orcs?
@@TheMetastasia *Draenor Trolls
Noy human s lululu
To add insult to injury even thrall hates them in warcraft 3 one of the first lines is "forest trolls I can't believe they used to be apart of the horde"
He did nothing wrong, and especially in that cancelled Warcraft game we don't talk about
What cancelled warcraft game? There's no such thing...shhhh
Seriously tho what game, that adventure game?
"Oh! Come in, come in! Please feel free to look around! I've got all sorts of exotic goods, imported from the islands of Kul'tiras to the flame pits of the Hellfire Peninsula! Zul'jin's rarities are renown throughout the lands of Lordaeron! If you have any questions about the merchandise, just ask me."
@@archdruidbookwalter951 You forgot to mention that this dialogue was done in the voice of a catty middle aged gay man.
@Cegesh yes it was.
One thing I would like to add to your video is that, despite Vol'jin eventually regaining his regeneration at the end of it, in Shadows of the Horde, Vol'jin does in fact not regenerate the huge hole in throat because of his own self doubts. So, perhaps, despite his engagement, maybe Zul'jin had doubts about his ability to squash the high elves even though he continuously rallied against them.
@Cegesh and by doing so his voice is much deeper.
Not because of self doupts no. Vol'jin chooses to not regenerate to keep it as a reminder.
Apari was the same.
Zul'jin might have chosen the same way.
@@cegesh1459 Two days ago I reread the section in Shadows of the Horde where Vol'jin and Tarzan Zhu discuss what is keeping the troll from healing and Vol'jin had this to say:
He no longer felt like a troll he thought that part of him had died in the cave, with the dagger in his throat, and was desperately trying to prove to everyone around him that he could still be the troll he was before. It was doubt. One hundred percent.
@@laverathanf2073 No it wasn't. Like it wasn't doupt for Apari either, it was determination. In Vol'jin case we learn word for word that he held on to it as a remindet to himself.
And Vol'jin overcame all this bs. You are wrong.
@@cegesh1459 no
Arathi Humans: OK, convince us to side with either of you.
Amani: We be keepin' away from humons since Tyr slew da dark beast in da glades, possibly savin' our loa from corruption, but we need ya support against dese elves who sundered de world.
Elves: We'll give you *B I G F I R E*
Arathi: LFM ZA, need heals.
Amani: Dude.
Amani: you can't just exterminate our intire people, Humans: Haha fire go Woooooosh.
Aaron
More like: Frostmourne goes *ominous whispering*
Amani : please dont fucking kill our people
Humans : so anyway i started murdering
Weren't the Amani warring with the humans to begin with?
@@the_furry_inside_your_walls639 probably in the same way the Maine exploded
I'll never forget the first time I encountered Zul'jin playing Warcraft 2 as a kid. The character and his voice effects were so badass. It's a shame that Zul'jin and the Amani were relegated to villains and punching bags throughout the remainder of Warcraft lore. Thanks for setting the record straight Platinum. Now the people know the TRUTH!
I would love it if they added "Thick" body type for the Trolls in wow. Similar to the posture option for Orcs. Love the look of the Armani in wow.
yes I agree and afaik we are getting green troll skin color
Ah yes, the Armani trolls.They where known for being the most sharpdressed among the tribes
@@navyblues84 🤣
@@navyblues84 Armani.. Armenian.. ... Oh no it all makes sense now.
"This is OUR land! You wanna stay? You stay here forever!
...we gonna bury you here..."
Man, Zul'Jin is such an underrated character. That line still gives me chills.
Dude me too
now we find him on Revendreth
*Leaves to watch the ZA trailer again and ponders his war crimes against troll kind*
Players: **enter yet another Amani raid**
Amani: Ah shit, here we go Zul'Again.
Sylvanas: "Zul'Jin I wish you'd stop wearing that necklace of elven ears."
Zul'Jin: "Well ya know some things are just tradition bruddah." 😂
Was this a sbf final fantasy reference.
*90% of the High Elves died in the Scourge Invasion*
Then you look up that the population of High Elves in Stormwind is higher than the entire population of Orgrimmar.
Shows you how many elves must've died lol
@@emperortenebrisemeraldwing8578 yeah and that's not considering all the other high/blood elves around the world.
Arthas did nothing wrong
@@krzemo644 up until he went to Northrend chasing Malganis. Garrosh did nothing wrong. >:)
@Cegesh Yea those numbers were before the darkspear rebellion which obviously would cause orgimmars population to boom right?
The horde was way smaller than the alliance to start with and they have only lost wars and had rebellions since...remember 2 horde cities are now raids and they lost another.
The only reason the horde exists at all is due to plot armor because by all rights the alliance should be able to take them out with just the dwarfs at this point.
"Discovering that the trolls were susceptible to fire, the humans and elves pushed them back
And the trolls, were pissed."
barny😂
that video literally made me sad, cant believe how rich lore trolls have
"2 other elves, whose names are not important."
ah yes, including one elf that sold the runes out to the lich king causing over 90% of the high elf population to be decimated and the sunwell destroyed
not important
THAT'S A LOT OF DAMAGE
The hero
Zul'Jin: "Wow mon, i really am glad that zat dose elves bastards i captured didn't die. They killed all d'er own elves for me! Hahahahaha~"
And that was the last happy moment Zul'Jin ever got, as he then realized that this one success of his entire existence was completely accidental because the universe hates the Amani tribe.
No elves are important.
@@TankManHeavy and other hilarious jokes you can tell yourself
"how do you sleep at night?"
Well, i just close my eyes
My eye
@@KaiValencia21 *WARLORD ZUL’JIN WANTS TO KNOW YOUR LOCATION*
@@HHLucifer666:v nyc where tha avengers and spidey are
i like that "superstition" here isn't "aaah! the stones are magic!" but "aaah! the stones are more magic than normal!"
Ancient Amani proverb
"Around Elves, watch yourselves"
Knife ears not welcome here.
Garithos approves.
Ah, so this is why they lost
Trolls have knife ears too lol.
@@emperortenebrisemeraldwing8578 yeah, they relaxed. Rookie mistake.
1:52 I looooove that scene transition to the old Warcraft 2 illustration!
Zul'jin was a hero. If there's one character I didn't want to kill, it was him. I rescued him in WC2, and they ask me to murder him ten years later?
BTW, Amani allied race or burst.
We have the Zandalari already though... I think there should be a third faction. Because the Amani would never join the Horde or the Alliance due to both factions having the high/blood elves.
Amani should absolutely NOT be an allied race, neither of the factions are worthy of the alliance of the Amani.
The Alliance helped brutally repress the Amani and while they may have had a few good guy like Garithos who treated Elves like the vermin they are, that doesn't mean they deserve forgiveness.
And the Horde chose to ally with the scumfuck High Elves and still maintain that alliance to this day, absolute no go.
@@pikemand1410 Exactly, that's why there has to be a third faction to possibly get the Amani onto the table.
@@Dranwulf Isn't there a green tint for Trolls in SL? So all we need is just a BUFF Troll option (maybe like switching between Up-right and not, Orcs), and BOOM, you got yourself an Amani (in your headcannon).
Because we pretty much can make Dark Trolls, Zul'Farakk trolls and other tribes through SL customisation AND Ion did say that ("We don't necessarily have to add allied race, if you have customisation optians and HEADCANNON").
@@ShadowZeroFlame And I guess to be fair there can be Amani mercenaries.... But I see no option for the actual Amani to join either faction.
This is the type of serious/meme content I stay alive for.
“Vol’Jin got stabbed in the throat and lived.”
Excuse me what *eyes Legion angrily*
According to devs, Mueh'zala or however you spell it interfered which caused his death because he needed Sylvanas to be warchief.
@@soulessENERGY that plus it was a demon blade that stabbed him so I kinda feel like that sorta wound just wouldn’t heal very easily
Vol’jin got stabbed by a fel corrupted weapon, the Fel killed him
He died from poisoning you dunce, not the blade
Me, playing trolls because in my dub speak my language and dialect : I'm loving this!
Me after learning the lore : DOWN TO IMPERIALISM, AEAB!
Trolls were the OG imperialists tho.
@@max7971 no, there were plenty of them on massive land piece, but they didn't conquer anyone. They simply were first to live on Azeroth from all "humanoid" races and fought aliens and titan creations after they took their lands
Zul'jin never healed his eye or regrew his arm for two reasons:
1: He was pretty old, so his regenerative powers ain't what they used to be.
2: Especially traumatic injuries can hinder their ability to heal. Even in the real world this happens, such as after people taking a blow to the head the hair growing back white or not growing back at all because of the trauma. Whether it be emotional trauma or hatred, Zul'jin's healing was scuppered by his inner turmoil.
if I remember right elves used magic to slow /cancel troll regeneration
I think that somewhere it said, the Trolls think it's because the Loa have abandoned him
@@alihorda Silly, the only right elf is a dead elf.
So the elves bullied zul'jin so bad that they crippled his troll abilities? Elves need to die
No, blizzard are just terrible at their own lore. In BfA there are clear situations where a troll has regenerated massive damage in mere seconds during combat, such as an entirely shattered jaw or disembowlment. It has nothing to do with emotional trauma. In lore it states a troll can regenerate at will, this means they can literally regenerate anything with a thought. Unless a troll suffers a killing blow to the head or heart, they will regenerate should they want to. This even goes for fire, fire damage DOES regenerate, but at a slower pace.
I would just like to appreciate the transition from the models to the concept art at 1:57.
You are on top of your game.
Damn trolls need more love in this world, like they got backstabbed or trashed by every race on azeroth simply because they existed and wanetd to make troll empire great again
Aouch this comment sounds too real for me smh
Ah yes, I too am confused as to why other races react negatively to enslavement and Imperialism.
Gnomes are superior and they get bullied even more :(
Anybody else realise that Trolls are one of two (playable) races, along with Tauren that are actually native to Azeroth?
Orcs and Draenei are from Draenor originally, Dwarven, Gnomes and Humans (and therefor also Undead) were originally titan constructs afflicted with the curse of flesh. Technically the Elven races could qualify, but they were originally Trolls that evolved due to their proximity to the Well of Eternity, which was the result of, you guessed it, the battle of Titans and Old Gods, therefor also not a natural native species of Azeroth.
@@CaptainSweatpants90 There also are Pandarens, but we dont really know if they are Celestial's creation just like Titans "made humans, dverfs and gnomes" and Wild gods made their own race minions: Agamaggan -> Quillboar, unknown Bull Ancient (Niuzao???) -> Tanuki -> Tauren, etc.
An interesting fact to take into consideration: the troll language is composed of many short words, often compounded together. This shows in troll names as a short given name (i.e. "Vol") and an honorific tagged on to the front or back (i.e. "'jin": elder or chieftain). Zul'jin isn't a name, it's a title: "zul" meaning the great and "jin" as seen above. Therefore he is "the great chieftain".
I memorized the literal words and can recite it on command for patch 2.3 "Gods of Zul'Aman". Not only do I not believe Zul'jin did anything wrong, I hold him up as one of the shining kings of the Old Horde... and why Trolls are one of my all time favorite races in the game. Yes, every criticism leveled against them (being losers, not having really much in the way of relevance in the current meta)... everything about them is why I first fell in love with the game. In my old Vanilla days, I was named the Loremaster of Lordaeron (specialty: Trolls) and gave tours to the young uns on the lore. I loved the lore and I specifically fell more and more in love with the game over time as these characters showed up. Zul'jin is still one of my top favorite characters in the lore (to the point I still play HoTs so I can play him and get my team to rage quit because I am objectively shit at that game).
Crying Zul'jin at 18:15 kills my heart!!
R.I.P. my brothers from another mother. You'll all be remembered in Troll History, as the heroes who tried their hardest to fight back and reclaim our home.
Making DrDisrespect a crazy elf who puts rocks around “la casa” and genocides trolls kind of ages pretty well 😅
"It's all the trolls'?" Always has been.
I love when you re create original source material with in game models. It looks so dope.
Does anybody here know what Shungite is? No not Suge Knight, I think he's locked up in prison. Talking shungite. Anyways, it's like a two billion year old.. like rock... stone... that protect against frequencies and unwanted frequencies that may be traveling in the air. That's my story, I bought a whole bunch of stuff, put them around la casa, little pyramids, stuff like that.
Dunno about anyone else but I feel like I have been watching this video for thousands of years!!
Forest Trolls did nothing wrong. They are the Natives of Azeroth.
Elves with Magic: not anymore bitch
Literally any trolls are natives of azeroth. Similar to orc on draenor with draenei, their downfall was when foreigners intervene their civilization
But Blood Elves were High Elves before and High Elves were Nightelves/Elves before and Nightelves/Elves were Dark Trolls before. In that case the Elves are kind of natives too.
@@holobolo454 on the pre-retcon lore, Nigth Elves were creation of Elune, totally separated from Trolls. And if i remember it correctly, it was Illidan who take the vial, and Dathremar escape with it, while Illidan was caught by Malfurion and then imprisoned
@@youzonk7692 That would be great. I like to "hate" Elves. This Troll thing made it harder for me.
Thank you for using the Doc as a Meme. I literally felt like home :D
“You damn elves, get off my property!”
- The Amani, probably
As someone who play as a blood elf hunter I now feel bad for killing trolls. I now have a new look on the amani trolls.
Your sense of humor and usage of memes are so flavorful
Man.. AWESOME work.
I'm glad we have people like you in the community.
MAKE MORE!
PlatWoW: Knife Eared elves
YT: Demonetized
That transition of the blood elf and forest troll models fighting to the drawing was really cool.
It was before I started playing wow but the "Gods of Zul'Aman" trailer is one of the best wow cinematics I've seen and it made me love zul'jin. Great video, I wish Amani could be an allied race or something but I don't think it would make any sense.
They figured out how to cram dark iron dwarves into the Alliance lol I can fly 1 zone over from SW and do gear repairs with dark iron dwarves as a Hordie. It just tool the Dark Iron Dwarves having solid leadership even if the politics of them entering the Alliance wasn't pretty.
Besides Hordes made up of desperate dying races, Amani definitely fit the criteria
As soon as a I heard the throat singing, I subscribed. Love the editing! You absolute legend!
Zul'jin was deprived of one eye and one arm?
Wow, that's quite the Berserk reference.
Imagine being the most sympathetic race in the Horde but Blizzard wants to retcon the other green boys into being the good ones. So they just call you Evil in the War3 manual and replace you with some blue guys instead.
I’m still mad.
DrDisrespect elf was so perfect lmao
That machinima shot into the page from the rpg was gold. A+
Zul'jin is a true hero of his people and he deserve much more love from Blizzard
Platinum WoW knocking it out of the park with another top tier video. Way to go!
Zul'jin was lucky he didn't mess with Lor'themars hair, he would have his troll guts ripped out by the elfs bare hands.
Vengeance for Zul’Jin!
*Troll and Blood elf party members glare at each other*
This why I play Turtle WoW as a Alliance High Elf and a Goblin Horde .. those 2 races should have been at 2004 Launch.. Blood Elves on the Horde took away the Horde intimidation factor they orginal had , current Retail WoW Horde are more Elf-Centric with a few Panda Bears lol
@@joezar33that's why i love turtle wow too, so annoying to see on Retail all these elves in horde side.
You had my like at "Most poggers moment of history" xD
The ending with zul'jin was very sad. I can barely hold my tears
Man, the quality of your videos is growing super fast! This was like....superb!!
17:11 I was so desperate for you to say "Why are you going my? I'm right". You did it. GOAT.
Random student of International Relations passing by to say, now that the Amani are a client State of the Zandalari Empire, and with their alliance with the horde, this has some massive geopolitical implications, the horde is pretty much a superpower in North of the Eastern Kingdoms, and at the sea, having easy access to Zandalar and Suramar, and don't forget about Highmountain, which would give them across to resources, and land, and the North of the Jade Forrest, which is close to Zandalar giving them a thigh gripe in the region... The horde is a fucking superpower now, and Zandalar, and the old troll empires are key to that.
This part that people don't fully grasp.
The Alliance got void elves so what a couple hundred void corrupted Belves lol
If QT and ZA were united the Horde would have North Eastern Kingdom sewn up and have easy routes between them all.
Theres also the Raventusk Trolls in the Hinterlands that are in the Horde as well.
We haven't even seen where the Foresaken will relocate to either
5:41 This was honestly the only correct option for music to play alongside the Troll Wars Firestorm artpiece
Yes! Finally! Someone said it, the Amani aren't the bad guys.
We are.
Imagine worshiping gods of nature and then losing a natural fight over territory and saying "waaaaaah, we were here first."
@@CampaignerSC lol what?
@@CampaignerSC Yes, lets steamroll civilizations with less war power (less war power is not being an inferior civilization), destroy they culture, take their lands and make propaganda saying that they were evil savages just because we do not understand their context.
You think that being able to conquer other civilizations makes you better when in reality each civilization is different and good in their own way, everything that you say is from a modern, propagandist point of view that portrays the loosers as inferior when in reality it is just the one with the stronger weapon wins, not the superior
@@willhem5668 "Lets?" I'm not part of your pathetic hivemind mentality; I'm an individual, not some member of an insect group that feels pride or guilt over the actions of other human beings that I hold no control over. I can make fun of any hilariously ironic belief system I wish to make fun of.
I love how everytime a Troll fights a human the human pulls out some kinda last minute nuke to stop the Troll advance. I am beginning to think the lore might not have always been quite as strong as we liked to think.
I always found it fucked up that as horde we didn't allied with the Amani trolls, but with the blood elves, just to play nice with Sylvanas, and lo and behold a solid decade later we all paid the price
the only reason at the time was because a large amount of players from china were asking better looking races or they dont play as horde, and its still the most popular horde race today
kinda sad, i just dont feel right playing as a blood elf, they're one of the worst kind of elf in the fantasy
Coming back here after watching the trailer you made for thew WoW youtube channel, really glad to see how far you've come man!
wow, just wow. Great vid Platinum. Im going to go create a troll character in classic now just from this.
"Truly, this was the most poggers moment in Amani history"
Like a modern age David Attenborough
Yay, I'm included! :D
Your work is so good
Can't wait for your next video
Can't wait to see Baldlord react to this, great video mate!
"Look. You made Zul'jin cry. How do you sleep at night?"
“Why are you booing me, I’m right” is it a reference from the Eric Andre show? 😂
Anyways, great content as usual!!!
Platinum pleaseeee make more lore videos in the future. You are so entertaining and informative
You are such a good content creator. Cheers mate!
Platinum WoW the best source for Warcraft History
This was a solid video, kudos there, I am heartened to see the Amani getting some respect & sympathy.
Though I'll note that if I recall the Amani didn't attack the elves until they'd settled on sacred lands & that the Sunwell originally had no Light magics. Also I am surprised Zanza and his "Arcanum" wasn't mentioned.
On the subject of other videos on trolls, I hope the highly advanced magic and sustainability of the Drakkari gets some regard. They got screwed in canon, but if you actually look at their accomplishments they built a city the size of a country as big as Gilnease under incredibly frigid circumstances & yet somehow produced a surplus of food, had epic sized homes, a functional military, & incredible magics. They even brought down a Necropolis when it attacked them and seemed to only start losing to the Scourge thanks to internal betrayal & sabotage from the Argent Dawn & Zandalari, & even then, before the latter got there, they had seemingly been able to drive off the Scourge or stop its advance.
Zul drak was one of the most fun areas in WOTLK
I just learned that blizzard is racist to trolls
I mean, you're not wrong...
what do you think their push towards "Blizzard's AI/Machine Learning system used to validate player reports around offensive behavior" is all about, anti-troll sentiment
@Anessen Still better than smug elves
*#TrollLivesMatter*
Blizzard is racist against his own characters and lore since wow
Great video, especially the fitting music choice at 13:46 😊 Did you know that piece, "The Morning", was written for a drama play called "Peer Gynt", in which trolls appear? I personally found it amazing!
P.s. Zul'jin is a sweety, why they made him cry? Jeez, I wanna hug him 🤗 but, since I am human, he will kill me😅
How did I just find this channel. I haven't played in a while, vanilla to mists of pandaria. But hands down, one of the most entertaining channels I've come across. Great stuff!
Here before that one guy who doesn't have that one mount reacts to it.
i have been waiting for the amani video for far too long
VENGEANCE FOR ZUL'JIN
"How do you sleep at night!?!"
Imagine, needing to sleep.
-This message message brought to you by the Undead Gang.
Zul'jin's design is super cool.
Hey! I'd love to see a lore series on cenarion circle, brood of nozdormu, druids and night elves in general with a focus on how they relate to the events of Vanilla / Classic. Thank you! Great lore vids I subscribed because of them.
High Elves/Blood Elves - "We need allies. I know, let's go ally ourselves with those monsters that nearly destroyed Silvermoon back in the Second War. That makes sense, right? ... riiiiiiiight?"
Good lord that DrDisrespect part was perfect! Well done! x)
The Dr Disrespect bits are gold. I fucking love you, man.
My all characters are trolls. I've always wanted to join Zul'Gurub, Zul'Aman or any other REAL troll factions. When we finally got Zandalar in BFA... well, we all know.
you're amazing, great work, never stop!
Trolls: Bringing everyone together, against them.
The High Elves probably enchanted their weapons for fire damage, that's why his eye didn't grow back. Zul'jin might have taken one of their blades to cut off his arm... but honestly, I could believe the dude CHEWED through it to get free.
I really need a TV show featuring troll lands being invaded, this plot line is such a great one honestly
Damn these lore videos are cool, subscribed
yassss dood you used the perfect title for this 👌🏼👌🏼
ZUL'JIN DID NOTHING WRONG!
The sound effects animation are epically funny man. Well done 👏!
I thought the "dark power" the hexlord offered was consuming their loa to obtain those demi-god animal forms you fight as bosses in ZA?
The Drakkari are the only trolls to have ever consumed their loa in order to survive the Scourge.
@@someguy9970 Zul gurub? hello?
@Cegesh Aren't they enslaved at some point? Or it's in the second version of Zul Aman maybe.
@@Inayaeza They're not enslaved, they were just called upon. The Hex Lord learned it from the Zandalar tribe.