Ep. 4: Rear Lift '04 Toyota Sequoia OME 2862 Coil Springs and Bilstein 5100 Shocks 1stGenOffRoad.com
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1. ARB OME 2862 Rear Springs: www.1stgenoffr...
2. Bilstein 5100 Rear Shocks (I've Since Pulled Them): amzn.to/2L4Tkwz
3. Replaced with Old Man Emu 60020L Rear Shocks: www.1stgenoffr...
Previous Upgrades
1. Bilstein 5100 Adjustable Front Shocks: www.1stgenoffr...
Tools Used
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1. Metric Flexible Head Ratcheting Wrench Spanner Combo Tool Set: amzn.to/2Jcqddx
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I appreciate you Josh. You made a first time vehicle lifter confident! Turned a daunting job into a practical one. Thanks man!
I can vouch for this one. Thought the job would be hard and to just get it done at the shop but after this informative video I’m now more confident about doing it myself
Hey Josh. I bought the 3" spings from your site. A good way i got those shocks of is if you go under where your spare use to be..... you can get a pair of vise on the top, wedge it and break the nut loose. Of course with some lube. Then the easy part.... put the 17 wrench on the nut and spin the shock. Nut comes off so easy... great videos. Keep up the good work sir!
Thanks josh for being patient with my decisions.. @ 13:45 you said the shock spins, put the vice on rusty bolt and put plumbers wrench on the shock and dont even go under the truck, wrench will get pinned to the frame and go go with plimbers wrench.. On install nut and bolt will be fresh and easy, i didnt even go inder truck on 2nd shock, gave the bolt the reach around..
Yes. Thats sort of how I do it now.
Just installed my 2865 rear coils and OME shocks from 1stgenoffroad. My rig is now ready for the trails! Love the look, love the ride .
🤘😎🤘
Does it ride softer than stock? How comfortable is the ride because that is what I am going for
After doing the fronts myself I was hesitant to do the rears with the little room, but watching this video boosted my confidence. Thanks man!
Nice man how did it go?
Neccesity is the mother of invention.
Nice job, cool music too.
I have a 4 gen 4runner I removed the xreas shock system some 100k miles ago and put Bilstein 4600 series shocks all around.
Now, I can feel it’s time for new shocks.
I ordered front coil overs completely assembled , I went with KYB this time, I also have rear air suspension that I’m researching how to yank that out and go with coils, possibly from fj cruiser.
Thanks again for taking time to make this video.
I cut 2" holes in the floor directly above the rear shocks, and then removed the top nut with an air impact wrench. Afterwards I sealed the holes with some sheet metal and MIG welder. I wish Toyota had already cut access holes.
Would have helped when changing the fuel pump too!
Oil filter vise grips work great! Easier than the channel locks.
Thanks! Not doing a lift but couldnt find a video about rear springs. My tree looks like its hauling weight when its empty!
Hey Josh, I dig your videos, lots of great information in them. Your camera work is amazing, especially since it looks like you're doing all your own setup work; must take a long time to do and take a lot of extra effort.
Wanted to throw this out there. Don't know if this is true for the OME 2862, but ARB springs are usually marked "A" for the drivers side (North America) and "B" for passenger. "A"s are usually longer by a bit and help compensate for the weight of the fuel tank located on the drivers side. I think you may have mentioned it the other way around in the video.
C clamp on the end of the channel locks… genius!! Gonna go out there day two and try it again. Thanks.
Also, not sure when your tree needs timing belt service. But I think that would be a great opportunity to do an instructional video for your channel. I just got the Aisin kit off Amazon for super cheap
I did the Aisin kit too. There are a few good videos already. I was just wanting to get the job over with LOL.
Keep em coming. It's been fun watching the build.
Thanks! Don't forget to subscribe.
Hi. Just wanted to compliment 1stgenoffroad for the episode 4 video. It's the best done instructional video I've ever seen. Fun to watch and full of great info and camera work and music also great. I may try doing the rear shocks and springs on my 2004 Sequoia with 290K on it. I'd be using OEM stuff, since I'm just a regular road guy. Thanks. Bob T
Glad you like the videos and glad it’s been helpful!
I don't know where the springs shipped from because I didn't pay attention to that detail but I ordered on Friday and they arrived at my house Sunday. And to think I was going to order them from amazon thinking they would arrive sooner. NOPE. 1stgenoffroad was way faster as Amazon was predicting delivery on the 19th. Thank you so much. next stop... install
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@@1stgenoffroad all done..looks great #Sequoiasquad
@@scorpiosuave You're quick too! Strong work!
Awesome video. I love the way you interacted with your son.
I’ve heard if u disconnect the sway bar link it drops the rear end down lower so u probably wouldn’t even need a spring compressor tool for the 2 inch springs
That would probably work. I had lots of rust on the rear link. I ended up having to cut them off.
Now that it's warmer during the day in Texas. I can install my lift 😂 springs are so large. Wasnt sure if i could install it with the compressors on. 👍
Yeah, you can compress the springs and install them that way.
Great tip to use the vehicle jack
My wife got me these coils from ur website haha! Installed them today!
Loving these videos. Been binging them all day. Any current specials or discount codes for someone that is late to the party? I'm looking to go a little crazy on my new "to me" 2001 Sequoia! Either way, thanks for all the tutorial videos. They are great!
Everything ships for free. Use promo “FB” to save a little scratch. Thanks!
@@1stgenoffroad Order placed. Thanks!
I got a 2005 Toyota Sequoia limited. Please make for videos it's a great car
Nice Ryan Bingham clip!
He's one of my favorites.
The "1stGen" discount code will expire at the end of Octover (THIS MONTH)! This is a real aggressive deal. It's hard to beat.
Do you have a video showing you taking the air bags off please let me know
Great Video Man, i just subscribed to your channel and we’ve been friends on instagram if you own the 1st gen off road anyway what did you use for the front? Just the shocks bilstein 5100?
Hey buddy, yes. Instagram @1stgenoffroad. When I made this video I was running Bilstein 5100s on the 3rd notch with factory coils. When I added the new bumper, it added about 150lbs to the front end so I upgraded to Icon Coilovers with a 700lbs spring. But if you’re not running a steel bumper or winch, I think the Bilstein 5100s are great.
The day people, and the night people…. How much lift is needed for the 5100 in the rear? Was wondering about trying them with a tricked airbag system.
3rd notch in the front, 1.5" in the rear. 4th notch, 2" in the rear. 5th notch, 2.5" in the rear.
I’ve been eating this up. Great channel
Just ordered rear 5100's and springs!
Thanks Paul! Keep us all updated on your build!
Cool vid, I lost the kit witht with the bushings and washers and lock nuts, do you carry those separately?
Don't carry that. ARB can definitely help you.
Well done. I have a first gen tundra.
Thanks! The front end is the exact same as the Sequoia.
Hi Josh, did the rear settle down a bit after you drove it? Or did it stay at that height?
I'm sure it did. All springs do. Right now, I'm at about 23" in the rear.
new subscriber 🙌 just order those springs 👍🕺
Nice work! Curious where you jacked the vehicle up at?
Did you ever end up putting an adjustable track bar in the rear or did the axle not move over much or at all.
Hey did the front end lift on my 2002 sequoia and love it. The rear I had new shocks and adjustable airbags in the coil springs. Was thinking of changing coils to give 2 inch lift and putting the airbags inside the new springs so I have 1000 pounds extra capacity. What do u think?
Which set of springs were these, he 2" or 3"? Perfect height. Great video. Subscribed!
Thanks, man! It’s the 2”. www.1stgenoffroad.com/store/p25/ARB_OME_2862_Rear_Coil_Springs_%2701-%2707_Sequoia_2%22_Rear_LIft.html
What springs are you running in the front? I'm about to make a purchase
Loving the videos keep it up.
I just got 5100's in the rear of my 02 Sequoia, I wanted to purchase the spring coils but I understand you took them off. Is there a particular reason why I may not want this shock in the rear??
When I first put them on, it was the general consensus that these would accommodate a 2” lift. I realized that they were too short. I took them off and swapped them out for longer shocks.
Thank you! I appreciate everything you do. I'm glad I asked before I got the ball rolling.
Hi, Josh. @ 08:28, are those isolators new or were they on the truck already? I'm planning to convert from air to spring this weekend. I have an '06 Sequoia Limited and don't think it has those isolators and might have to buy them if I can find them.
Those came with the truck. You can get a set on here: www.1stgenoffroad.com/our-favorites.html
Are the rear springs sided? One of my 2862 springs is about a 1/2 inch taller than the other. I'm thinking the taller goes on the drivers side to compensate for the driver and fuel tank???
Hey Josh, what do you recommend in the 1st gen sequoia to reduce body roll? I finished the lift with arb springs in the rear, bilsteins all 4 corners and 33 BFGs. Looks sweet and rides nice but rocks back and forth a bit as you roll down the road.
Consider extended sway bar links. Fronts: www.1stgenoffroad.com/store/p873/Suspension-Maxx-Extended-Sway-Bar-Links.html And rears: www.1stgenoffroad.com/store/p1037/SuspensionMaxxRearExtenededSwayBarEndLinksSequoia.html
Just Foud you after fighting on my way try to do conversión 2005 sequioa with airbags to springcoils its to hard im done just the driver side tomorrow I do the way u do the other side thanks buddy
Hey, did you have or have you every had a problem with axel hitting the bump stops?
@@CoachclishRSF yea depends how hard take the pot hole but no to bad
Land cruiser what year??? And does the land cruiser sharee more parts with the sequoia???
Very enjoyable video. I'm looking to convert my 05 sequoia from the air springs to just regular height coil springs. I saw in your video that you already had coil springs on yours. I was just curious if you knew where i could find the springs to put on. I've looked all over and can't find any for the regular ride height.
I'm here for the same reason. I have an 07 limited, I need to ditch the airbags, but don't want additional lift. Did you ever find anything?
Im just install junkyard ones of 2002 sequioa on my 2005 with air bags I just order kyb shocks and I send then back cause the top thread 1 inch smaller of stock so I cant tigh up all day down
How did you get leverage to unbolt the original shock? would it be easier to take the springs out 1st?
Great Video!
Q. How does this change with the rear air ride suspension?
Yes please!
Has he answered you
I will be installing Bilstein 5100's on both front and back of my 07 Sequoia Limited 4wd. Will also replace stock coils with Eibach 1" inch lift coils since the rear Bilstein's have a 0-1" lift capability. My question what Bilstein 5100 model number should I use if I want to put OME 2862 coils? I don't think my current rear Bilstein's will work since it only has a 0-1" lift.
I would go with the Dobinsons shocks here: www.1stgenoffroad.com/store/p644/DobinsonsGS59687RearShocks.html
what are the lift options for retaining factory rear air bags? I have an '03 limited tree and I am looking to buy a kit from the website but none seem compatible with limited models that have rear air bags.
Anything over a 1" lift, you'll have to switch to traditional coil springs. Give me a call on Monday and we can discuss the options.
What lift kit do I need if I have rear air shocks that are faulty on my 05 Sequioa 2wd
You have video on how to do rear air suspension delete for an 07 limited?
Excuse my ignorance, didn't you install new shocks in the rear already? obviously from this video I don't see that but i'm lost lol
This is an older video. I removed these shocks and added these old man emu shocks: www.1stgenoffroad.com/store/p196/ARB_Old_Man_Emu_60020L_Nitrocharger_Sport_Rear_Shock_-_2001-2007_Sequoia.html
Wow amazing job I love the video. Part of me wants to drive over and pay you to do this job for me. How much is a job like this worth in your opinion? And if it's not too much to ask what would you recommend for a 2005 Toyota Sequoia SR5 4WD If I wanted to put 35" Tires? Thank you in advance.
Thanks. You can totally do this job.
Hello, just did a coil conversion I expecting the banging of my bump stops to the axel to disappear with installing bilstein shocks and the new coil but the still smacking. What do you suggest?
Good job! When I started working on my 2007 & 2005 Sequoias there wasn't much info out there.
My 2007 was straight forward for the rear but the 2005 had rear air and I had to engineer a fix.
For both my ARB springs settled so I reinstalled the RevTek rear Polly spacers.
I'm having lots of body roll on the 2005 that had rear air. The 2007 handles like a sports car (not litterally but compared to the 05) I just installed new Bilstein 5109s all around and it's a bit better. I'm thinking maybe I should upgrade the sway bars? Thoughts? I can't find anything on the web about the 2007 upgrades compared to the 2005 to explain the difference in handling.
Any advice is appreciated.
I can give more information on removing the rear air computer controls and components if anyone needs.
Keep it up!
Nice work with removing the air bags. What did you use for the rear spring insulators when you took out the air bags? Toyota OEM insulators are expensive. And did you throw any dash light codes? Did you have to pull any fuses? I ended up putting ARB 60020L shocks on with the 2862 springs in the rear. Cut the rear sway bar link (too much rust to unbolt). I thought it might corner like a drunk elephant, but honestly, I can't tell the difference.
1stgen and T Hall. It would be great to know how to replace air bags. I have an 06 that I would like to covert. Thanks!
What did you replace the Bilstein shocks with after they pulled apart
I just pick up some Coilsprings from junk yard and New kyb struts im gonna do its like more skinners the New struts but let see of no more bumpy drive
Where is the best place to order new insulators / spring cups ?
The link to the 5100s on Amazon says it does not fit a 2001 sequoia. Is this the correct link or what part # should I look 4
Great video! Thanks!
Great! Hope it's helpful.
Great video. I have a 2001 Sequoia Limited. I need front sticks and shocks in the rear badly. What do you suggest for front and back. I do basic driving and a lot of fishing on bumpy dirt and Sandy roads
Good morning... a few questions???
The link for the rear Bilsteins are to a 2" Fj Cruiser shock. Is that correct?
Also, why did you change to the ARB shock?
Was there a noticeable performance change from Bilstein to ARB?
Performance is way better. The Insteon FJ shock is way too short. Toytec still uses it in their Boss kit. That’s why I thought it might be a good idea in the beginning. But it’s not a good idea. Anyone who truly knows these trucks will ttell you.
I have a 2001 Sequoia. I am ready to purchase shocks and coils. I want to gain 2-3" total. What do you recommend? ARB complete suspension kit on your site or Bilstein 5100 with Dobinson coil on front and ARB with coils in the rear? Once I do it I will not have the money to do it again... My wife won't let me LOL. I want to learn from your expertise and trail and error.
@@maranojames Understood. Dollar for dollar, it's hard to beat this kit and has everything you need: 2InchLiftKitDeluxe20012007ToyotaSequoia.html
Did you change the sway bar link, when you installing new rear shocks and springs?
Not in this video, but in another video, I just removed on of the sway bar links. No problems.
Hi i have a 07 sequoia I want to get rid of the rear air bags is there a conversion kit for the rear like a coil over kit
Don't know if you are still replying to comments but I was wondering what your front and rear heights were after installing 5100 and stock coils in front and 5100 and OME862 in rear. Was the truck level or a bit higher in the rear. I have 5100 in front and rear but I pull a boat trailer and would like a stiffer coil in back but really don't want much more height.
There was a slight nose down rake. Check the next video where I add the tires and wheels. Skip to the end. It gives you a better look at the truck: ruclips.net/video/CtR6HpLV3OA/видео.html
Hi, do you think these coils will fit a 2002 2x4WD Sequioa? Thanks
Yes. Will fit the same way.
shouldve taken the sway bar off wouldve let you droop the axle more
It was too rusty to easily remove. Ended up cutting off the sway bar link ruclips.net/video/Z9btVVVU_QE/видео.html
I think Harrison means remove the four bolts holding the sway bar to the axle. I didn’t see you try those in the video, sorry if I missed it. Or maybe they just looked too rusty to attempt. Great vid Josh
Have 02 sequoia. Been wanting to lift it a bit and improve it. Please let me know what parts to use for front and rear.
Also looking to improve front end. Joints snapped when going 50 mph. Mechanic put in cheapie parts. Need help picking heavier duty upper and lower control arms and ball joints. Need assistance for this
Thanks. Dont take videos down its good.
Hi Bill, Use Toyota OEM lower control arms and lower ball joints, tie rods, etc. Here is a great 2.5" lift kit with SPC upper control arms. www.1stgenoffroad.com/store/p227/2.5inchLiftKitDeluxe20012007ToyotaSequoia.html
Can you tell me more about the ARB vs Icon vs Bilstein vs Dobinsons in the rear? What about the springs? ARB vs others? Progressive shock vs linear? Looking for the best setup for my 03 over stock.
2 options for springs, ARB and Dobinsons. Both are great. Both offer progressive and linear options. Dobinsons probably has more
Options. But anything from 1.75” - 4”. For shocks you have many more options. Bilstein, ARB, Dobinsons, Icon, Fox, etc. I think you get what you pay for. Icon and Fox come in full coilovers and range from
0-3” in the fronts. They are rebuildable.
What year of land cruiser are those rear coils from thks
So this is bilstein 5100 adjustable shocks in the front with stock spring.
and bilstein 5100 shocks in the back with OME 2" lift springs?
Yes. Bilstein 5100s, factory springs, set to the 3rd notch in the front. Bilstein 5100s in the rear with OME 2862 rear springs. I took the rear shocks off in a hurry because they are too short.
Does it matter if you put spring by on passenger side?
The taller spring goes on the driver's side.
What about track bar? Sway links exc.?
just subscribed to your channel. I just bought a 2005 SEQUOIA, the year with a little more power on the 4.7 for the 1st gen., 155k miles for 4000 dollars. Its NOT 4wd but I was wondering If its still good for off road? thanks
If had add locker too your rear differential that would help alot so you don't get stuck so easy.
@@mrbmd710 thank you so much for your help
I have a gen 2 sequoia and my rear is sagging what do you recommend I use it to pull a travel trailer that’s about 5600 lbs with a weight distribution hitch and the trailer has tandem axles . Thanks any suggestions would be greatly appreciated 🙏..
If it only sags when you tow, add some air bags to the springs and inflate them when you tow. Or if the springs are worn out and you're sagging all the time, and If you don't mind a little lift, think about Dobinsons 1.75" lift here: www.1stgenoffroad.com/store/p581/DOBINSONSLiftKitToyotaSequoia2008to2018.html#/
How much for this?
What can you say about swapping the factor rear air suspension out for this setup? They way I understand it you just need to add a set of hollow springs and insulator to the top of the new spring.
Iv never done this. But that's my understanding as well.
Does it feel like you have to change out your upper control arms because on my 02 sequoia with the same 5100 lift i have a slight driver's side vibration feel. Ive got new ko2s and switched out lower control arms tie rods both inner and outers and lower ball joints. Along with sway bar links. ???? Im not sure what it could be? Any suggestions
Any time you change the front suspension, you need to align the vehicle. And any off road tire will have a rougher ride than a normal street tire. But so far I haven't experienced anything out of the ordinary. Maybe someone with more knowledge than I can answer.
Thanks for responding but i have had it aligned several times.
I would recommend finding a good mechanic and letting them take a look. So far I haven't experienced anything like that. And without actually seeing, feeling and driving, I can only guess. Keep us posted!
Are you getting a lot of noise from your rear shocks since installing the 5100?
No. They were always quiet.
@@1stgenoffroad huh, mine are loud, dealer wants me to go back to the stock rear shocks, they won't rattle.
Just curious, why did you pull the bilsteins off and swap to ome shocks?
Bilsteins are too short.
Can the old spring be used with this shock? Will it still lift there rear? If so how much? Thanks.
Yes. The rear shocks can be used with the factory springs. The springs give the lift, so you won't get any lift if you don't replace the spring.
What Lexus did you get the springs from
I got them here: www.1stgenoffroad.com/store/p25/2862Spring.html
I'm thinking about replacing my airbags with coils on my 05 Toyota sequoia. Do you have any recommendations for kits?
Im trying to find out the same thing let me know if you found a solution!
How do I know if I should replace my front springs when adding new shocks? I have an 02 I think they're original, also, why don't you use bilstein 5100 fronts anymore?
The 02 is 19 years old now. I would go ahead and replace the springs. Bilsteins aren't too bad. I took them off when I put the heavy bumper on. Then I put them on my Tundra. Then I took them off the Tundra and they're going on the 3rg gen 4Runner. They're not bad for the money, but there are better things out there.
@@1stgenoffroad Thanks. For someone who doesn't off road and only hits dirt roads 5% of the time they should be ok right? I just want to level off the front and replace the leaking struts.
@@jayinla228 Absolutely.
Hey did the spring seat properly at the top or do I need to buy a top seat or whatever its called
the top spring insulator? Use my same one and it fits fine.
I guess I should've asked first was this a airbag conversion first?Wondering if I just pull the bags out and itll seat properly.
Did you use Land Cruiser or Sequoia 5100's?
These: www.1stgenoffroad.com/store/p32/Bilstein_5100_Series_REAR_Shock_-_Sequoia_%282001-2007%29.html
Yes, I understand now Thank You!. I got confused because I have rear airbags and Bilstein doesnt make 5100's for Sequoia's w/ AHC uggg. Great videos!!! How's your SR5 ride with the new lift?
email me. Josh@1stgenoffroad.com. I'll talk you through the conversion.
1stgenoffroad Hey, thanks for the reply. Enjoying the vids. I had an 04 Limited heavily moded, sold for new Tundra, sold that and got my new 05 Limited Sequoia but this one has rear airbags...anyway, If I Had standard suspension Id use your method. I will be going Rancho 9000's in back w/ the airbags and a sensor relocation to keep bags aired up higher
What year land cruiser rear coils are you using thks
What about the side to side bar do we need to get an adjustable one bar?
For a mild lift like this be do not need a panhard relocation bracket.
I currently have a level kit on my 1st gen, can i add the 5100s along with the level kit?
It's okay to do that. Just keep the Bilsteins on the bottom notch.
Do you run extended brake lines?
I had to remove the E-brake retaining bracket, but no need for extended brake lines.
You guys sell the whole set? Need to lift my sequoia 4 inches front and back? Thx!!
Lots of good options. Use the link. Click on a rig you like and it will tell you how they built it. www.1stgenoffroad.com/rigpics.html#/
Can i sue these 2.5 lift springs with my factory shocks in the rear
You wouldn't like it. they're too short. Go with the ARB 60020L shocks. www.1stgenoffroad.com/store/p196/OME60020LRearShock.html#/
You can sue anyone over anything nowadays. This is America!
Could i change the rear shocks without having to buy new coils as well?
Yeah I did but the springs start to sag and the vehicles squats. I changed them later on and it was worth it.
@@sandrosilva2515 what do you mean squat?
Hi bud, how Drive after installation?
The springs ride great! Looks great! I ended up getting rid of the rear Bilsteins. They were too short. I swapped them out for the OME shocks. They are about 3" longer and accommodated the lift better. I still have the springs and they're great.
Can i use the 5100's whit the OEM rear springs?
Sure can.
Whats the name of the song
Do i need to alignment when lifting?
Front for sure.
Can you install this spring on 4600 bilsteing?
Yes, the 4600s are long enough.
@@1stgenoffroad 2001-2007 Sequoia Suspension>ARB Old Man Emu 2860 Rear Spring Rear Lift 3"+ Heavy Load/Overlanding-2001-2007 Sequoia will this be compatible to the bilstein 4600? I want to lift the rear pretty soon have to see what I can use with the 4600 besides the ones featured in the video thank you very much for your help and your informative videos they've helped me out alot. Thank you @1stgenoffroad !
Will this fit on 2wd?
Will fit the same way.
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