My Early Impressions On The Most Expensive Speaker Cable I Have Ever Owned!
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- Опубликовано: 1 май 2024
- The Most expensive speaker cable i have ever owned is here. In this video i am sharing my early impressions with you and of course - if this is worth its asking price of $100,000. Don't miss this one!
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The most basic 3 band equalizer does more and will make more difference than this POS box could ever do. Anyone wants to challenge this statement and try it out in a blind listening test?
Nope
@@jaysaudiolab Yup, thought so. The results of the blind listening test will destroy everything you have preached in a blink of an eye, including the business you are trying to establish. Not many people dare to put money on what they claim. This is the definition of snake oil
@@jaysaudiolab I would be interested in this test outcome
@@jaysaudiolab after a month, and still no evidence, however thin it might be. Pfffffft. Keep living in lalaland
If turning knobs changes the sound then even though passive, the circuit is affecting the sound. Passive circuit do so all the time. But the job of the speaker wire is to transmit the energy from the amp to the speaker as accurately as possible.
The function of this speaker table is to create an interface between the amp and the speaker
@@jakeross8533 IOW actively changing the signal.
That's not a cable, that's a passive equaliser similar to your speaker crossover. It should cost a couple of hundred $ in parts even with the most expensive parts in it. It has capacitors, inductors and resistors in it.
100k... now we're just getting stupid. Very fine speakers AND cables could be had for that
One room at Axpona had $180,000 in speaker cables and TBD listed as price for the rest of the cables. Cost for the speakers, amplifiers and other gear was around $380,000. With no verified scientific evidence to show a difference in audio performance from expensive cables versus oxygen free copper cables it seems crazy to spend the money.
Was it the ZenSati room ?
You do know it's just a passive equalizer inside it right? Maximum $200 in parts maximum.
Many theories out there but that’s all they are…
@supercompooper And where do you supposedly derive your supposed knowledge of this from?
I ask because what you state in your comments regarding this product is BLATANTLY FALSE
Where do you derive your supposed knowledge from? You're just making shit up and wouldn't stand up in any court except the ones with kangaroos.
@@davidcross890 Are you aware that "supposed" used twice in the same sentence is awkward, redundant and makes no sense. You can't derive knowledge that is supposed nor can you supposedly derive actual knowledge.
Sorry dude, hifi caps average at $600 each, that box is loaded with premium parts.
The box is heavy because they use a special sand and rocks only found in the desert of Peru
It might actually have something like quartz sand for vibration damping, and/or ferrous minerals like Shunyata cables do.
@@chipsnmydip My silly comment could be actual fact. Amazing
@@chipsnmydip Ferrous materials? Don't tell Danny at GR Research lol
@@RennieAsh Sorry, I mean ferrite, or ferrite-like minerals.
@@chipsnmydip Moon dust 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
They use cheap wire from the instruments to the recorder in the studio so this is crazy. Noone can hear a difference even in a $1m system in a double blind test and the explanations provided by cable companies for why their products work defy the known laws of physics. Decent quality cable and connector is all you need. Anyone paying over $100 a cable for that is out of their mind. I asked for a demo of two cables in a hifi shop once. After the retailer swapped the cable he blocked my view of the preamp and "accidentally"jogged the volume dial up and then said it sounded more dynamic with the new cable. Unfortunately the volume was visible on the led display and so I noticed the increased setting and asked him to restore the volume to the prior level at which point the extra "dynamics" dissapeared and it sounded exactly the same as before. When challenged he couldn't point out any difference at that point. This example plus the huge markup on cables tells you everything you need to know. I once had a hifi shop refuse to even give me a dem when i refused to agree to spend 40% of my budget on cables before I came to the shop. Nuff said. If you have toadd components then it is no longer a cable it is an lcr fil;ter or a zobel network etc.
Have a friend that has the ACC268 + MA Oracle interconnects. These cables were developed with Spectral Audio components in mind due to frequency response with the articulation poles. If you want ultra high definition, check out that pairing. Goodwin's High End in Waltham, MA has an excellent reference setup paired with Wadax level 3
Thanks for sharing your observations so far Jay.
My pleasure!
100k tone control?
Can i use them with My rotel and topping 90se...😁
Fun review!! I’ve been a critic in the past but keep up the great work Jay !!!
Thanks! Will do!
Is that a mono box or do both channels connect to it.
Yes Jay ! Very good explanations . I like to see that . All in the high end systems it's all abaut what we lose in sound with cables , not what we get .. This is our problems . We enjoy with what is possitive and immediate see negative happens with stage , perfection of sound .. This is never end , i know that . Very good video ! BR
I have not tester these mit cables but other cheaper models and it’s some of the best cables I tried.
The best I’ve heard is from renaissance audio in Bergen Norway.
He makes silver cables in an oil for microphonis excuse my English.
But I love that you are reviewing speaker cables, no one else is doing it and cables are so important so thank you jay🙏🏻👍
The circuit is altering the sound. What's the point?
The circuit alters the sound because no cable by itself will, unless they intentionally add in resistance, capacitance, inductance etc
For 100,000, i could start my own factory and start smelting pure gold cables sprayed with diamond sparkles and stuff.
You should probably do it …
That would give a regal sound.
these so call cables are total BS and robbing
Do it and I'll pay for half that factory.
@@carlosoliveira-rc2xt - lest not forget that "Jay's Audio Labs" exists to push the limits of ultra-high-end audio, and I thoroughly enjoy it.
While I think the price may be a bit over the top - the cable exists, it Is available on the market with the goal to reach levels of transparency and musicality at a different level...or not. With further listening, Jay will let us know.
I don't consider this to be an audio review site. There is hardly any advice given out of any value. Jay seems to be more of a broker of hyper expensive audio gear of perceived top quality. Status and bling is king here. If that's your thing, here you are.
Yeh - his latest is always his best - sales 101
Many years ago I worked at a professional audio company that sold high end recording equipment. Everything from 24 track tape machines, mixing consoles, microphones, amplifiers , speakers, sound processing gear ect. We sold the best of the best audio equipment. Super expensive cables started to come to market. We took them and did double blind testing. Nobody could tell the difference between the oxygen free copper cables and the new silver cables. Professional sound engineers couldn’t tell any difference between $100 and $10,000 cables. Adding rf chokes made a difference but cable materials didn’t matter as long as you used same gauge size. When people knew what cables were used most said the expensive cables sounded better.
Thank for sharing that ., I tried 99% silver cable and oxgen free cable I could not really tell the difference to I went back
to the copper cable, and that sound good.
How can we take what you say seriously when you spell "new" instead of "knew?" My over 45 years of experience with high performance gear tells me otherwise.
It sounds like you sold studio equipment. Studio equipment is seldom audiophile level. I doubt it was anywhere near the level of Jay's system.
@@jakeross8533 It is hard to compare older gear to new equipment. I do not think it is the wire that is improving his system. I am sure that their has been vast improvements made over the years to audio gear. How can you say that the equipment used to record the media that you are listening to is inferior to the equipment it is played on? Have you heard the new pressing of Steely Dan UHQR? I believe it is the box that is altered the sound that is making it more pleasing to him not the composition of the wires.
@@carlosoliveira-rc2xt He asked for opinions I have given mine and supplied the reason why I believe that there is no detectable difference. You offer insults and stated that you have listened to music for 45 years. Have you ever done a blind listening test between same gauge oxygen free copper and expensive wires? If so you have a right to express your research. No need to attack me Jay asked for everyone to respond why so hostile?
Quite hard to trust someone who keeps saying "I have to be honest..." Implies that you can be dishonest quite often
You don’t gotta be here … right ?
@@jaysaudiolab So true, I will unsubscribe
@@tallpaull9367It is also a figure of speech and a habit. Often people mean, “I am being transparent with you concerning something sensitive”
@@philipteater3714 Yeah, it's a funny habit. It's ok, this moment made me realize that I really don't need to be here. I have no idea why I have been watching this content. Not like I'm in the market for this stuff. Unsubscribed and moved on.
Awesome
I listened to these cables in Paris and it's true that they bring everything you said. Reserved for ultimate systems. Otherwise, Oracle shd 120’s are already working very well
Finally! Bring also Spectral system, and you'll be good.
Seriously overpriced
I think they need some quantum stickers on them and some internal high frequency subgenerators to charge maybe an extra $100,000 don't you think?
It’s all relevant - whoever can afford it - will buy it
Imo, I think a person can do as well overall and spend a lot less money.
They sell all they can make, so its convincing someone.
listened to these cables in Paris and it's true that they bring everything you said. Reserved for ultimate systems.
When are you going to run your own power off the grid?
What brand is it?
Does it require 4 cables? 2 in, 2 out?
This is a SNL skit….100K, lol
What????
Jay have you found a specific cable brand that works well with Magico speakers?
My cable line - authentic audio image.
@@jaysaudiolab thanks I will look into your website
Damn, while I get price is relative; just because you can afford something doesn’t mean it’s not ridiculous. I could afford solid gold silverware but it doesn’t mean they’re any better for eating food.
Obviously, we've got to hear it. If for no other reason, then as a reference point for other cables/gear.
Eagerly waiting for some beautiful gem in next video jay😊
Very soon!
Check out the stealth cables you can tune them to your liking and they’re a lot less expensive. From what your describing it Sounds like there’s a power conditioner built into that unit. Check out Puritan audio .
I had Stealth in the past,one of the best!
Hell yeah! Definitely interested in how this will pan out! As I may have previously mentioned comment-wise, I am unlikely to ever be in the game for such mortgage-cost components (I work in the NHS!) and wouldn't know where one could go to hear such high-end kit of the calibre you regularly feature on your channel to just listen (as I definitely can't afford to buy them!). Mind you, if I ever won the Euromillions lottery.....
You and me both!
KJ in London. Tell them you are an Oligarch and they will fall over to give you a demo 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Thank you, Jay 🙏
My pleasure!
This why I subscribed in the first place -- This is THE PLACE for highend audiophile reviews
Keep up the good work Jay!
Wow, thanks!
@@jaysaudiolab yes agreed, and Jay isn't full of himself and entitled like other certain youtubers..
@@TheBodhisattvaWisdomthank you
Agreed.
Jay, one thing for sure, cables do make a difference. It’s been proven in my system and I was shocked, several times, at the difference in sound after swapping out different cables.
Subjective experience is pretty far from "proven" my guy
Proven for himself. Subjective experience doesn't weigh nothing, especially in audio where good sound to one can be unpleasant to another.
@@phetmoz Experience changes minute to minute with stuff like that. Even with speakers and those have real differences you can hear.
With all the massive differences people claim the cables make, why are they not all in audio heaven now?
@@phetmoz
Exactly! Well said.
For most people it's just the fact of a high priced audio item upsets them and it'll be immediately poo, pooed on, and then they proceed to tell you about the same product that does it for 1/25th the price. Like nobody knew the lower priced item existed, lol!
Man I can’t tell the difference between the Ol Radio Shack or Monster cable from the 80’s .
If you have the ears to pick up the difference bless you. .
My ears a semi shot .
Don’t buy cables like this…
It's not really just a cable when it plugs into a box with additional parts. I'm sure it does something, but at $100k there's probably not a lot of people who can test it properly/dismantle
Go for it Jay, let’s hear a comparison between the cables.
Going active would be best solution. Cables like that in passive mode is like making a formula 1 diesel car.
Didn't know MIT was still in business - no kidding - as they don't advertise for years. I stand corrected. Good to see them around. 👍👍
Are you sure? I think I've seen their ads in absolute sound
@@jakeross8533 - I'm sure I haven't seen their ads in years. Sure glad they are still in business. They have been around for decades.
I used to think that expensive/exotic cables were pure snake oil/bull shit until:- one sunny Saturday in September, I was browsing my local ‘high end’? boutique, hi-fi retailer who were having a closing down sale. The 3rd closing down sale they’d had that summer! I noticed a 6 feet long, solid silver power cable reduced from $85000 to $5000. I bought it on a whim. Well actually I bought it on my AMEX platinum card, but that’s another story.
I took it home and after being battered by the wife, I used that $85000 solid silver power cable to connect my 1800 spin speed Miele washing machine to the mains outlet. The difference it made were absolutely phenomenal. The machine heated the water up to the desired temperature in a fraction of the time. Yeh, what used to take it 20 minutes now takes 19 minutes and 54 seconds.thats a massive saving of 6 seconds. I’ve calculated that in 1001 years, I will have recouped that $5000 outlay in energy savings.
Now, when that Miele washing machine reaches its maximum spin speed of 1800 rpm, it is 2.5db quieter, is much smoother and no longer dances around my utility room, though I attribute that to the cables binding qualities, not it’s electrical properties.
The caveat, because there is always a caveat:- my teenage daughter used to derive great pleasure from sitting astride that machine as it reached maximum spin speed. That damned exotic cable has denied her that basic, primal pleasure!
I went back to that store and purchased the identical power cable. I used it to connect my Roksan CD trans to the mains outlet. I was bitterly disappointed. My CDs still spun at 1080rpm. My teenage daughter was even more disappointed. We thought that if we could get the CD transport up to 1800rpm it might just vibrate sufficiently to restore her will to live.
The moral of this story:- $85000 invested in exotic cables, will not make a notable improvement to your hi-fi, or your daughter’s goal of primal satisfaction.
You CANNOT tell the difference in a blind ABX test. I’ve used AB switches with systems use ticks with each other. It’s prestige, nothing more nothing less!
MIT have had very expensive cables for a long time.
I have used MIT cables for over 15 years.Started originally with there non networked cables and liked the sound and have upgraded progressively to there mid tier interconnect and speaker cables, which has cost approximately 20% of the value of my audio system.Money well spent.
Could you show us the receipt for the purchase of the cables? We demand transparency in your audio journey. Thank you
u wanna buy my “premium special gasoline “ for your car too? i only charge 1000 dollars a liter
Jay: amazing review! Concise and packed with information. Really clear and informative! I'd love to know more about how these stack up against the Magnum Opus
More to come!
Are the speaker cables extra?
No they are included in these speaker cables
A picture of these should be in the audio dictionary beside the words "complete insanity".
Sorry, that spot is already taken by a picture of Jay
@@justadad2304Agreed!
hey how many times can we CLEAN THE WINDOWS lol it goes on
Jay what happened to the new MSB?
Gone to my client. It wasn’t for the channel because I’ve already owned it before and did many videos with it.
Jay, some good news those giant SF speakers make you look slim.....they were worth the $$$
Must be something like sand in there. Placing my speaker cables on the ground introduces more smearing giving a fuller sound, lifting them off the ground they are more clear and transparent. They say its passive, but I also wonder if there is a long life lithium thionyl chloride battery (15-20 year life) in there that conditions the dielectric relaxation of the cable like Audio Quest or similar that reduces smearing and opening the sound. But come on, that’s too much money.
I still waiting for tube speaker cables
I hate to state the obvious..... That is NOT. a speaker cable and I'm surprised you didn't challenge that. How is that even up for debate. It's a hardware device that you're installing between your amp and your speakers. It could be a filter, a crossover, an EQ or some combination of all of that.
Im only reporting. Nothing else
So why aren't you stating the obvious? There's a difference between saying company X calls this a speaker cable and saying today I'm testing new speaker cables. The lack of objections to a clearly ridiculous characterization of this product as a "cable" is giving it credence. Call it an inline EQ or phase shifting device that ALTERS the signal to your personal taste, that's really what it is.
Question for @Coolesttech...don't you think it would be wiser to genuinely understand and experience a set of unique performance technologies before you mischaracterize them recklessly?
@@Coolesttech凸
Question for @Coolesttech...don't you think it would be wiser to genuinely understand and experience a set of unique performance technologies before you mischaracterize them recklessly?
@@davidcross890 this has nothing to do with experiencing the product, and I am certainly not the one mis-characterising it. The manufacturer, and by their silence, reviewers are trying to tell people that a hot dog is a hamburger, even though we can all plainly see what's right before our eyes. I have no problem with this device per se, but call a spade a spade and not a speaker cable, that's just disingenuous. What's gained by calling this component a speaker cable, maybe it's so that audiophile snobs who want purity of signal path won't be afraid to try it. Who cares, if you like what this component with speaker cables attached does for your sound then by all means go for it. Enough marketing mumbo jumbo and trying to be smart, it just looks dumb.
Still waiting for your system review with Mits interconnects. Let go!
I am an engineer and I do know. its a 25x markup and most of that is the box. It's filtering the treble thats all you can hear.
Maybe but Mit has industrial patents
@@philippec6792 in what? anyone can file a patent
@@philippec6792 You can patent stuff. Doesn't mean it does anything
Since you have lab in the name...could we get any kind of lab test?
$299 schiit lokius can do what this 100k cable could
And do it better.
Interesting point about how a lot of components might work by overblowing things over the point of accuracy. Cause in theory it would make sense and it would make a finanical sense for companies to do it. But in a sense most of things in hifi do this. This is why we dont use flat studio monitors as audiophiles, although they should be the most accurate in terms of frequency response. We all are aiming at our own preferred version of falsehood.
It's almost silly to call them cables no? this is passive EQ.
Yeh, in the olden days we called it a tone control. EQ sounds better 🤣🤣🤣
Some amps do the same thing via pressing the “loudness” button. Simple and cheaper… By the way, they are simple passive crossovers or passive equalisers, that’s all.
Very interesting.
Very!
Improvement on sound:
Use 2 seperate and isolated cables in parallel; one pure copper cable and one silver plated copper cable
So good to see BIG speakers in there, man if i had the money😊
A mind is powerful thing
Be Careful Jay, Lower Bias settings and Relaxed Music is for us Older Guys! 😉💪
Noted!
Ok, good analysis. Especially about when the articulation controls are turned on. Does the Apex sound too warm and less incisive when in High bias on the MIT speaker cable?
Different feel. Too much of a good thing
@@jaysaudiolab Yep. When I was a dealer for MIT back in the day, I thought MIT speaker cables were too warm and sounded better with cooler sounding amps. Which could explain why the Apex in low bias sounded better with the MIT speaker cables.
@@jaysullivan9545 Yeh all those passive components sucking out the power and life - that's why he needs lower bias. It's basic electrical engineering🤣🤣🤣 🤣
Obviously this thing is a passive EQ box that changes the frequency response of the cable. This is bad and will reduce fidelity. It's 50 lbs because there's a block of concrete inside. 🤣 This is audiophool product.
Depends on the frequency response of the speaker and room. It may actually make it better. But you can do the same with $1000 or less
Are those the Sonus Faber Flagships “The Sonus Faber SE17?”
Yes man
I'm ordering the Aliexpress version for $1,000.
Play some songs with those vs some entry level hifi cables
These cables cost $99,970 more than mine 😂. My “budget” (to Jay) salon2 works great but maybe with better cables they might sound better.
Serious, they call their black box articulation center 😀😁😆😅😂🤣.
Yep
well, they couldn't really call it the money absorber , could they?
I never heard somone complain about super expensive cars. Why should there be a limit in hi-end? There's nothing wrong with expensive gear in my opinion.
Tell the others here
Amen Brother as long as the design and performance warrants the exceptional price
@@davidcross890 Which these cables do not - its like painting a trike red and climbing it is a Ferrari 296
Who could look themselves in the mirror spending only $80K on speaker cables? I’d have to hang my head in shame and never have any one over to listen knowing that I could have had the $100K or $120K version if I wasn’t such a pathetic cheapskate.
You're a brave man, Jay, to talk about speaker cables. While my rig is orders of magnitude below yours, I don't have trouble hearing differences in cables. Thanks for keeping it real.
I have plenty of trouble hearing differences. What I have less trouble with is thinking I hear differences.
I appreciate that!
How about an A-B video with the Authentic Imaging cables. Let everyone decide for themselves.
If I have the time, I will
That is a great idea !!
Hey Jay, you got a speakers that cost 300000 $ cables 100000 $ and rest of is i dont know, can you show us yours records and cd collection.
Send the speaker cables to the real lab for review at ASR.
I could if you pay for them first ?
Is there 2 boxes. One for each channel? Yes, let's hear this special system.
Two boxes
Interesting to note: many years ago a cable company significantly raised its prices to attract the high end buyer, the idea being the higher price translated to better sound. They saw their sales skyrocket as a result. Was the cable that much better, made with better materials, such as silver? Nope. This started the trend of high price cables and when you boil it down, it is all wire and insulation with terminations many share from WBT or Furutech.....of all things in audio that could be suspect cables are it.
All you have to do is look at the ICs and circuit boards in even top end gear like Jay's APEX. Tiny copper tracks 🤣🤣🤣
Right..............
Preamp and amplifier is just for the purposes of amplification of signals from your media source” and your speaker cables only purpose is to transport that signal to your speaker without signal loss, it’s job is not to add or take away anything from the signal” so why these cables with such a simple requirement cost as much as some peoples house 🏡 I don’t get it 😮
Whatever your opinion, that fact this exists makes it interesting
If you say you heard a difference in sound , I can only take your word for it because cables of this price point are way above my head.
I don't know Jay, my whole system cost slightly more, than those cables and I have pure silver cables ,not nearly in the same league as you're gear, but at 125k it's good enough , anyway have fun with your system 👍
Box full of quartz?
lets hear some stuff bro, great stuff many thanks ,not everyone has the balls to do what you do 🙏
I appreciate that!
They could have spent more on the design of the passive hub, for that money.
Ok
Yeah, it doesn't scream $100k
Well that would mean lower profits 😊. Let’s keep it real here. Pretty much everything on this channel is very expensive and way beyond our budget so it doesn’t really matter either way.
Yeah it looks like some plastic glitter storage tub thing or engineered stone lamp base
I’m not sure if I want these or a used Porsche more… actually I am pretty sure lol
And the Porsche will have more cable inside of it too ;p
OMG Jay has discovered tone controls 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Beyond myopic minded comment
@@davidcross890 spoken by a non-engineer and hifi gear snob. Seen your previous comments - if it's expensive, it must be good. Dumb or what 😂😂😂😂
A non degreed engineer who through my designs and products and companies generated 100's of BILLIONS of dollars in sales to most every country worldwide and have patents and IP in over 85 countries. So at least one of us can easily acquire the world's finest or design it and build it if it's not already made. Gear Snob....no I just don't have to live with or accept substandard gear...
@@davidcross890 Yeh yeh. 100's of billions? Who were you? Sony? BS radar blinking RED.
@@daveuk1324are you either so Napoleonic or too myopic and incapable of doing your own due diligence?
Yes can't wait
Good review so far mymate..
Thanks 👍
I don't doubt the cable works but why is it so expensive? Sure there's probably a long research and development time. Plus the market is kinda small.. but still?!
100 k on speaker cables where the Sun don't shin
You have a lot of adjustments to coordinate between amp, spkrs & cables. I’d make sure speakers are optimized. I read they throw a huge sound stage. Essentially you have 4 speakers to dial in. Hard to figure all that can be discerned in a few weeks.
Indeed
I prefer my cheaper blue heaven cables, over my more expensive robin hood cables. With my system anyway.
It's not a speaker cable, it's a component. Lol. Good idea though, as it may fix mismatched components for dealers and help them sell whatever is on hand. ;-) too sharp, just EQ it out using the speaker cable filter.. lol. Gotta love this stuff.. it's complete entertainment.
I find it funny that there are lots of people with money to spend on this stuff; surely you have to be somewhat smart to earn that much money?
@@RennieAshyep
@@RennieAsh yes but combine that with OCD 🤣🤣🤣🤣
SIGH !!. no comment.
thanks for making this video.