People don’t understand the soft bigotry of low expectations. I’m like Boone I keep everyone to the same standards and I get called racist because I’m not “taking into account racial heritage” like that matters when it comes to behaving kindly in public society and not beating people.
@@bullshark3771 Agreed. Especially when they going for a job and work in a multicultural environment. I had sexual harassment brought up again a few weeks back and my junior threw it down quick, abuse of pwr, positioned, status and that they were unaware of the context, were it be the person's shoes, their walk, their talk, their spectacles or perhaps even their body. They judged on initial expectations. And the standards between black n white, men n women.
A lot of people want to be lazy at the cost of stupidity and many other negative side effects. Them or the people taught to show pity will fight you and they don't know any better. Ignorance is not very blissful for the rest of us that aren't.
Same goes for White ,Red,Tan ,Yellow ,Green kids. Treat everyone the same with one exception. Can you legally work here in this country. No free lunch . It is what we had to do.
How is Petey being coddled by being put in a position where he can succeed? It should be pointed out that in real life 1) Coach Boone was fired for physical and verbal abuse towards his players 2) The Titans had an extremely large talent pool due to the Merger of three high schools. This is why they were so dominant in 1971. 3) Coach Boone coached the Titans for 8 years. He only made the playoffs twice.
Always loved how you can see Yoast wanting to say something back but he just leans back and listens, as if he’s agreeing with what Boone is saying. Incredible movie.
That's how they became friends. They started to understand each other and see their motives. Yoast realizes that he's right. Pitying someone based on their race is in a way as bad as bigotry.
@@blademaster9297 He was but they are old enough to understand it now . When they were young that would not have been the time . Nowadays some kids are mean and disrespectful. This is one Great movie 🎉.
Yeah but still if i was Yoast and i see Boone treating the team like that i would be like "You're fired, get out" but i understand the both of them and i ain't blaming none of them.
Both men make excellent points! The world does not owe you a damn thing and you need to be able to take criticism in order to be an adult and take care of yourself. But at the same time you have to be careful about how far to push people. A person under too much strain can snap and if that happens other people almost always get hurt or killed!
So the next time there is a natural disaster, such as Hurricane or an Earthquake, should we tell the victims, "The World does not owe you a damn thing. Nobody donate to help the victims. You need to be "tough"." ?
@The Dude Abides You being too stupid to see the point of this scene makes you the weakest. You're obviously a 12 year-old who shouldn't even be on RUclips.
@@dolphinsneu Not at all. The football players are held to high expectations but they are also given support to meet those expectations. After a natural disaster, you wouldn't do everything for someone who was harmed by it. You find out what they need to return to their way of life and provide it for them, and this looks different for everybody, but you let them regain their independence. Your comparison is flawed.
The only Disney movie that can make me cry…and I say that proudly. “We’re still fighting the same fight that we’re fighting amongst ourselves today. If we don’t come together on this hallowed ground, then we too will be destroyed.”
0:31 Yoast didn't even know that he was overprotective of the black players over the white players. Didn't realize he was doing it. You can see it in his facial ticks and expressions. Will Patton is underrated.
The little lip quiver when he looks like he's about to try to say something really sealed that scene for me. The complete circle of emotion all in the span of two scenes, that he has to take in what Boone is saying, is about to get defensive, then realizes what Boone's telling him, unable to retort to Boone's comments, then slowly sits back realizing that, in hindsight, he was prejudicial in his treatment of the players.
Watch Yost (real coach) in a video saying he never had racist feelings towards Boon rather his pride was hurt when he was not hired as head coach. It took a little getting used to but the two men had a great professional and personal relationship
I don’t think he treated black players more respectable then white. Boones point is he patronizes more sensitive players over less sensitive. While boone treated them all the same.
@@bcm8984 No, Boone's point is that Yoast was only protective of the black players. Hence why he brought up Bertier and Sunshine as examples of who Yoast doesn't do anything for even though they get the same treatment from Boone.
This talk was necessary. Petey abandoned his team in a time of need. Yoast lost all sympathy for Petey after that. Also as the head coach you cant have others coaches undermining you in front of the team.
Man, Denzel has got to be one of the best actors out there, in any era. This guy makes you believe each and every character that he portrays is truly him. Absolutely amazing actor, and this is one of the best scenes in modern movies.
I'm glad when people grow into adults that they can look back on something and actually understood a message that flew over them. What makes me sad is how long it takes for that message to get through to people sometimes, myself included. People have forgotten how to take criticism, how to identify when someone's angry about something and it's not a personal attack but an observation, or how to simply agree to disagree without condescending or insults. Feels like my generation has lost that the most. Born in 89'. Probably the last generation to be told when growing up "sticks and stones may break my bones, but words may NEVER hurt me." Funny how we stopped teaching that particular saying since 2000.
This movie came out 20 years ago how did it take you 30 years to understand this? Unless you heard it before but why would it even take you this long lmao
0:31 - Just watch Will Patton work in this scene. Look at how Yoast reacts to Boone's point that he's babying the black kids on the team. Yoast didn't realize he was doing it. Didn't even know it and it's all in Patton's face, especially his mouth. Great acting.
You’ll never see a scene like this in a Disney movie ever again. Tells you everything you need to know about what has happened to Disney from 2000 to now.
Both coaches have a point. You can be a hardass on them but you gotta know how far to go. Some coaches say the real world is hard and it won’t be kind or nice to you. Thus they feel that them being a hard ass constantly is the best option. But the white coach is right as well. Some players respond better to coming at them with respect and more tolerance. The world maybe dark and cold, but as a teacher, coach, or parent, you need to know how to help a person find some level of peace in order to achieve their goals.
@emmy lite you are right in that black men do have to deal with cruelty. But if I gotta deal with it in the outside world, I don’t wanna have to deal with 100 percent from someone when someone can do things differently.
@emmy lite No he isn't. You are misinterpreting his methods and what he is actually saying. I am a black man myself. What he is pointing out and trying to say is that the world is cruel and unforgiving. For everyone. In Amercia it's especially cruel to Black people. This "nice" white coach was taking the black kids and coddling them. Thus making them dependent on a "Nice" White man to save them. Hence why he said "you're crippling them for life" A major problem in the black community. That a nice white man will take care of them. Boone is trying to get them to understand discipline, criticism and pressure. In order to take it and rise above and perform at the best of their ability. Whether it be football or in society. Coach Boone is the complete opposite of cruel. He is a Drill Sergeant teaching soldiers how to go to war and being able to execute under extreme pressure. Black people don't need a nice white man. We need a strong black man to guide us with strength and tough love because that's our reality living in a cruel world.
@emmy lite Right, you offer no counter point and just double down on your opinion without consideration of other points of view. Even say "period/end of story" Ironically that makes you the Authoritarian because you think your own view is the correct one and dismiss all points to the contrary without room for discussion. Congratulations you played yourself and are the very thing you accuse Coach Boon of. You have no clue what Authoritarianism is. Take a study into Nazi Germany and Fascist Mussolini. Rather than trying to attack a fellow black man for trying to teach and coach toughness in a football context. Notice how you neglect his more compassionate elements when Congratulationing his players for making it into college when before hand he asked him to bring him his grades to help him be eligible. Which would yield benefits as they grew into society. In no way is he comparable to actual Authoritarians Fascists like Mussolini. I bet you think Jesus is white too 🤣.
@emmy lite he wasn’t being cruel for cruelty’s sake. It’s about building tough skin. Same goes for people who get bullied. Sometimes you just gotta man up and face it instead of crying every time it happens.
I wish this movie was still shown to kids. The ultimate message of it is that brotherhood knows no race. My high school football team watched it every year during two a days and our coaches would always tell us after the movie was over to look around the room. Look around the room and I don't want you to look at a white kid, a black kid, Asian, Mexican or whatever, you look around the room and you realize that you're looking at your family. Then the O-line coach would tell us that we'd forge bonds in the trenches that will last a life time. Damn if he wasn't right. I'm 27 and my best friends are still my brother's from the field. That was such a good message to nail into the heads of a bunch of teenagers and having that bond with the others guys made us not just a better team, but better people.
Denzel is a man of profound wisdom..he is teaching these young men of every color to be fighters in life not victims..if you dont want people victimized dont teach them how to be victims...if lessons of discipline and wisdom are needed by young white boys, Israeli boys, Greek boys etc... as guided by the bible in the parenting guide, why would young boys of other ethnicities not equally need those same lessons applied by the parents to make sure their kids turn out alright. of course they need the same wisdom, this concept predates America itself and goes all the way back to ancient times in countries all over the planet. children know nothing about how to go through life when they come out of the womb, and that fact is never going to change. they need teacher and parents to show them how to live and that is precisely what Denzel is doing here. Moral young people: don't make excuses and listen to what this man has to say.
I loved this scene. He educated him. They don't live in the same world with the same ability to just be. Their seen as men before they hit puberty. They are seen as a threat by the most ignorant in the society. The most brains washed within the matrix. The conditioning men in their community give them is a buffer against a hard lesson they would otherwise learn.
This is like two ideologies which both mean good for the target group but have different approaches... We often struggle between the two...sometimes 1 is right, sometimes the other and often times a balance between both. Well, we all have to make these choices if we want something good to be done
I honestly never saw what Coach Yoast did wrong. He simply saw a player being yelled at and belittled constantly and realized that he could rebuild the player’s confidence and have him help out on defense. Yeah u can be a hardass to some people but sometimes guys need some one to put their arm around them and provide positive encouragement.
The point was he yelled the same way to white boys and the coach did nothing.. how does he know the white players don’t respond to getting theyre hand held? Because they were a championship team. He was simply telling them treat them the same; nothing more nothing less
@@buckfidencoincidencetheori7200 Besides that, and I really don't think the treating them the same was the main point, he was telling Yoast that the black players do not exist in Yoast's bubble, and they will have to face real "Big, Bad Boones" out there, that he was setting them up for failure...
@@siliziwencanywa1138exactly and the black kids may run into a anti-Yoast. Then what. To me, this was the best scene in the entire movie. It’s clearly what young black males face. Way too much coddling. There there it’s not your fault. It’s his fault or their fault. Victim mentality. Magic Johnson had an anti-Yoast. Total r acist security guard. Told Earvin you black kids are all the same. Will never amount to anything. Magic’s dad always brought his kids up to ignore that stuff and do your best and hard work pays off. When Magic signed his contract with the Lakers as a rookie he returned to his HS with his brand new Mercedes and he smiled at the security guard and said well I guess I didn’t amount to much of anything. Magic said the security guard turned a nice shade of red. Too many black kids lack fathers. They don’t have good examples to follow. Black fathers need to take more responsibility for their kids.
Yoast babied Petey and later on in the film Petey quit on him when it mattered the most. Remember the state semi final game when the refs had been influenced to purposely make bad calls against the Titans?
Man I was a little ass snot-nosed kid when I first saw this movie. Never really grasped the meaning of what Boone was trying to convey here until many years later. Now I see how right he was. Coddling black folk like they're victims does nothing but hold the community back (they learn nothing from it). Yost got the message, which is why he declined to play Petey in the (state) title game, after the latter threw a fit in the game prior. Powerful scene, one that I think many of us that don't pander to leftist ideology can appreciate.
Exactly. I’d like to emphasize your sentence which is what people need to understand. “Coddling black folk like they’re victims does nothing but hold the community back.”
both had some very valid points. If I were Yoast, I probably would have done the same thing and put Petey on defense because he seemed like a better fit there than as a running back. but Boone is right about coddling and sensitivity. As Boone said, coddling will do no good. As Yoast said, don't be too harsh with criticisms and just say what you need to say without being overly critical
He speaking facts, it ain’t gonna be getting any easier emotion wise at that point. Sounds like the right thing to do, but softening a player up won’t do a dam thing later.
i will point out that Coach Berteir is actually right in this scene, even if Denzel Washington is making a good point. Coach Berteir never just insults the player or drags out the point.
Does anyone else find this scene to be all the more relevant today? The treatment of every and all minorities as if they’re victims. “You’re crippling them for life”
To be fair, Yoast ended up being right. He knew that the defense needed extra speed and Alan didn't have that, but Petey did. While Boone saw it as overstepping his bounds, Yoast saw it as adjusting his personnel to fit what was needed at the time. Knock him all you want, but he was right in the end.
Nah, he didn't put Petey in the game out of need; he did it because he felt sorry for him. But Boone was right. For him to do this for a black player when Boone was tough on all of the players, black and white, was patronizing. Yoast even realized this himself and that was why he suspended Petey from playing in the championship game for insubordination.
It served both purposes Jim. Alan couldn't cover his man because the guy was too fast for him. Alan was a good player but that guy was too much for him so Yost needed someone who could cover him and Petey was available so he used him. Now did he feel sorry for him after Boone chewed him out again, obviously he did and you could argue he put him in to rebuild his confidence but he did put him in for a football related reason and not just because he felt sorry for him.
The worst you can ever do is quit. Petey wanted to quit because of how hard Boone was being on him. And then you see towards the end of how Yoast wasn’t the soft nice guy anymore. So Boone really got to him. Teach them how to stand on their own two feet or else stay down forever. And that’s no place you want to be.
They have good reason, and a right to be angry about the world that's been left to them. Their parents and grandparents destroyed the most vibrant economy in history, created the single-greatest instance of income inequality, eliminated vast swaths of the path to enrichment and achievement, and saddled them with debts no one should ever be forced to endure. They literally have no future, because the previous generations decided it was better to give Bezos, Gates, and Sam Walton's heirs so many tax breaks that they can't begin to spend it all, than it was to fix the infrastructure, provide for security, and encourage growth and prosperity for everyone. Damn right they don't want the "hard truth" you think they deserve. They just want the same breaks their parents and grandparents had, and those were taken away.
Love this movie and this scene. Both coaches are right and wrong. Not every kid can be coached the same but at the same time kids should not get special treatment. Some kids need tough love and others need support. It's not wrong to me to coach a kid based on their individual needs. This movie is a classic and both actors did great.
Im posting this on channels as of tofay. Seen this movie front to back like 50 times. Even in high school years ago. You would be suprised at what topics the past covered yesterday that are still relevant today. Remember the Titans everyone needs to watch breath and bleed this movie.
A lesson for a segment of the "tolerant" white community. Tolerance is one thing, but it is JUST to hold black and white to the same standards of moral, intellectual and civic behavior. Anything else is injustice. We are not doing well in this area as a culture. The last bastion of racism in this nation will be the quiet bigotry of soft expectations. Minorities need to be expected to stand on their own merits, to neither be unnecessarily denigrated nor excessively patronized, if the problem of race in this country is ever going to end.
Kindness is one thing. But if you are kind to someone because you think they are inferior to you, then -- as Boone says -- you are patronizing them. It's "soft bigotry" because even though your intentions are good, you're helping that person because you think they are inferior, and feeling that someone from another race is inferior to you is essentially what racism is about. As shown at the end of this scene, Yoast even realizes this, which is why at the end of the movie during the championship game, he disallows Petey's request to play as punishment for Petey's insubordination during the previous game.
@@DaInvisibleNinja 😂😂😂 wow so you are a racist and only play the black kids huh? I say what Coach Boone(RIP) said, "the best players will play, color won't matter". And he did just that.
@TMWSITY Who enslaved the blacks? Democrats. Who represented poor whites and "liberal" policies during the 20th century? Democrats. Which president first sent in the National Guard to help young black kids integrate into a school in Arkansas? Eisenhower, a republican (and the last good one). Who schemed to pass civil rights bill just because they wanted to control the black vote once they allowed black people to be able to vote? Lyndon B. Johnson, a Democrat. Lyndon B. Johnson said, and I quote: "I'll have those n-words voting Democrat for the next 200 years." The democrats knew that civil rights were inevitable. They knew the blacks hated the democrats because all the slave owners and their families were democrats. They knew that once civil rights passed, that southern blacks would vote against them. So, they made one of the smartest moves in political history: they passed the civil rights while they had control of the White House so they could keep control over the southern black vote and not lose a tremendous amount of power. Those racist rich white southerners were brilliant. Guess who else was a rich white southerner? Bill Clinton. Are the republican conservatives racist? Sure. But don't be a naive fool and think for a second that the Democrats are not just as much and more.
I always thought this was an interesting sup plot. Star running back that couldn't handle the pressure. Then gets put in at safety and does great until hes under pressure and gives up. I am not totally against what Boone did and said but I think a middle ground could work too. Yoast put him back on the field and he hadn't changed so in the long run that didn't do anything. Either he needed to sit out the year and come back next season or earn his spot is my opinion is a middle ground and learning experience. Just giving him a position on the team we learned wasn't the right choice.
There is a measure of nuance in this scene that doesn’t get much attention in a movie filled with so many inspiring parts. And that is the fact that at times our understanding of race and our response to it should not come from our own points of view about it, but from the understanding of the other. The other is more important, the other is the part that is missing from our view of the situation, this is why there is so much frustration between two sides.
Holy hell but that is a good lesson that seems to have been forgotten in our modern, safe spaces are needed, victimhood seeking, social media driven, cancel culture.
This is a conversation that white folks in 2021 STILL don't understand. My son's kindergarten teacher babied him. Let so much slide. My son is sweet (never disrespectful) but he still failed to show that he was ready to pass kindergarten. She passed him (even though he wasn't ready) and he struggled so much in 1st grade. He cried every day. Homework felt like I was trying to teach him calculus. His dad and I decided to move him back to kindergarten and since that day he has been so much more confident. He's going to 3rd grade now and is one of the top two students in his class in reading and math. -----point of my story is, some white folks see black kids and pity/baby them (as if they need to be saved) instead of preparing them for life with tough love like they do white kids.
This is the problem today. parents coddling their kids in the "everybody gets a trophy" generation. These uber-entitled kids will grow up and not know how to take the slightest rejection. let alone the slap in the face the world will deliver them over and over again.
This was a powerful scene of the movie, and one that every bleeding heart liberal white person should see. Yoast's intentions were good, but what Boone makes him realize is that by showing special attention to a black player Yoast was indeed being patronizing. Yoast didn't realize that he was only helping a black player because he thought that Petey wasn't strong enough to endure Boone's harsh treatment. Bottom line: Yoast thought that black kids were inferior to white kids.
This is precisely the problem we're facing today....and why there's so much problems in the black community and the rest of America. We have a whole generation that is used to being coddled, people are being taught to depend on others rather than depending on themselves or seeking self-improvement.
I never understood how a high school could afford full time football coaches? I had over 1,500 in my graduating class and our football coach taught math. How does a small town program employ full time coaches?
My guess is different schools have different budgets and decide how and where to allocate that budget. Some schools might make sports a higher priority whereas one like yours would spend more on other things.
RIP Coach Herman Boone. Died today of cancer at 84.
May he Rest In Peace
No he didn’t.
@@tren380 yes he did you idiot boy.
@@tren380 The Real Herman Boone did died , not the person who played him by Denzel Washington .
Man if people understood how powerful this scene was.. wow..
Especially today
People don’t understand the soft bigotry of low expectations. I’m like Boone I keep everyone to the same standards and I get called racist because I’m not “taking into account racial heritage” like that matters when it comes to behaving kindly in public society and not beating people.
@@bullshark3771 Agreed. Especially when they going for a job and work in a multicultural environment.
I had sexual harassment brought up again a few weeks back and my junior threw it down quick, abuse of pwr, positioned, status and that they were unaware of the context, were it be the person's shoes, their walk, their talk, their spectacles or perhaps even their body. They judged on initial expectations. And the standards between black n white, men n women.
A lot of people want to be lazy at the cost of stupidity and many other negative side effects. Them or the people taught to show pity will fight you and they don't know any better. Ignorance is not very blissful for the rest of us that aren't.
Everyone understood how powerful it was. This movie is recognized as one of the most powerful family films of alll time.
Best scene of the movie in my opinion. It’s truly profound and still relevant today. Us black folk don’t need to be coddled just treated the same.
Same goes for White ,Red,Tan ,Yellow ,Green kids.
Treat everyone the same with one exception.
Can you legally work here in this country. No free lunch . It is what we had to do.
How is Petey being coddled by being put in a position where he can succeed? It should be pointed out that in real life
1) Coach Boone was fired for physical and verbal abuse towards his players
2) The Titans had an extremely large talent pool due to the Merger of three high schools. This is why they were so dominant in 1971.
3) Coach Boone coached the Titans for 8 years. He only made the playoffs twice.
Doesn't matter the color... these days all boys and girls are so thin skin....
@@baltarodriguez6679 Everybody succeeds differently.
Left Side Strong Side was by far the best scene of the movie...and one of the best scenes of any movie ever Imo
The world dont give a damn about how sensitive these kids are.....
Relevant today.
Too bad the kids today are so sensitive.
@@Argumemnon exactly what I was thinking
@@donaldbrady3850 Kids don't respond well to criticism, that is something that they'll need to adapt to.
Especially the young black kids
The world don't give a damn how sensitive these kids are that the power in the scene
Always loved how you can see Yoast wanting to say something back but he just leans back and listens, as if he’s agreeing with what Boone is saying. Incredible movie.
That's how they became friends. They started to understand each other and see their motives. Yoast realizes that he's right. Pitying someone based on their race is in a way as bad as bigotry.
It’s because he knew he was in the wrong. Boone was 100% right, he was preparing these kids for the real world
@@blademaster9297 He was but they are old enough to understand it now . When they were young that would not have been the time . Nowadays some kids are mean and disrespectful. This is one Great movie 🎉.
Yeah but still if i was Yoast and i see Boone treating the team like that i would be like "You're fired, get out" but i understand the both of them and i ain't blaming none of them.
I love this scene because I believe yost was sincere, but realized he wasn’t doing them any favors
Both men make excellent points! The world does not owe you a damn thing and you need to be able to take criticism in order to be an adult and take care of yourself. But at the same time you have to be careful about how far to push people. A person under too much strain can snap and if that happens other people almost always get hurt or killed!
James Poledna great point brother! Man this movie is amazing!
So the next time there is a natural disaster, such as Hurricane or an Earthquake, should we tell the victims, "The World does not owe you a damn thing. Nobody donate to help the victims. You need to be "tough"." ?
@@dolphinsneu We're talking about high school football players.
@The Dude Abides You being too stupid to see the point of this scene makes you the weakest. You're obviously a 12 year-old who shouldn't even be on RUclips.
@@dolphinsneu Not at all. The football players are held to high expectations but they are also given support to meet those expectations.
After a natural disaster, you wouldn't do everything for someone who was harmed by it. You find out what they need to return to their way of life and provide it for them, and this looks different for everybody, but you let them regain their independence.
Your comparison is flawed.
The only Disney movie that can make me cry…and I say that proudly.
“We’re still fighting the same fight that we’re fighting amongst ourselves today. If we don’t come together on this hallowed ground, then we too will be destroyed.”
0:31 Yoast didn't even know that he was overprotective of the black players over the white players. Didn't realize he was doing it. You can see it in his facial ticks and expressions.
Will Patton is underrated.
The little lip quiver when he looks like he's about to try to say something really sealed that scene for me. The complete circle of emotion all in the span of two scenes, that he has to take in what Boone is saying, is about to get defensive, then realizes what Boone's telling him, unable to retort to Boone's comments, then slowly sits back realizing that, in hindsight, he was prejudicial in his treatment of the players.
Watch Yost (real coach) in a video saying he never had racist feelings towards Boon rather his pride was hurt when he was not hired as head coach. It took a little getting used to but the two men had a great professional and personal relationship
I don’t think he treated black players more respectable then white. Boones point is he patronizes more sensitive players over less sensitive. While boone treated them all the same.
@@bcm8984 No, Boone's point is that Yoast was only protective of the black players. Hence why he brought up Bertier and Sunshine as examples of who Yoast doesn't do anything for even though they get the same treatment from Boone.
This talk was necessary. Petey abandoned his team in a time of need. Yoast lost all sympathy for Petey after that. Also as the head coach you cant have others coaches undermining you in front of the team.
Man, Denzel has got to be one of the best actors out there, in any era. This guy makes you believe each and every character that he portrays is truly him. Absolutely amazing actor, and this is one of the best scenes in modern movies.
Realist shit ever stated in a Disney movie 😂
Disney stopped giving a fuck the more identity politics became the norm.
Too bad this movie is about as far from the truth as you can get
@@dolphinsneu try harder..
Beyond real..
This movie is in the top 8, ALL TIME,,,, from start to finish.
It took me 30 years to truly understand this. And now that I do, I say he’s damn right.
I'm glad when people grow into adults that they can look back on something and actually understood a message that flew over them. What makes me sad is how long it takes for that message to get through to people sometimes, myself included. People have forgotten how to take criticism, how to identify when someone's angry about something and it's not a personal attack but an observation, or how to simply agree to disagree without condescending or insults. Feels like my generation has lost that the most. Born in 89'. Probably the last generation to be told when growing up "sticks and stones may break my bones, but words may NEVER hurt me." Funny how we stopped teaching that particular saying since 2000.
Stupid huh ? 🤣
Damn if it took 30 years you suck
This movie came out 20 years ago how did it take you 30 years to understand this? Unless you heard it before but why would it even take you this long lmao
@@dododump3144 As in the LESSON he's teaching.
0:31 - Just watch Will Patton work in this scene. Look at how Yoast reacts to Boone's point that he's babying the black kids on the team. Yoast didn't realize he was doing it. Didn't even know it and it's all in Patton's face, especially his mouth. Great acting.
Yes it was very subtle
You’ll never see a scene like this in a Disney movie ever again. Tells you everything you need to know about what has happened to Disney from 2000 to now.
Both coaches have a point. You can be a hardass on them but you gotta know how far to go. Some coaches say the real world is hard and it won’t be kind or nice to you. Thus they feel that them being a hard ass constantly is the best option. But the white coach is right as well. Some players respond better to coming at them with respect and more tolerance. The world maybe dark and cold, but as a teacher, coach, or parent, you need to know how to help a person find some level of peace in order to achieve their goals.
@emmy lite you are right in that black men do have to deal with cruelty. But if I gotta deal with it in the outside world, I don’t wanna have to deal with 100 percent from someone when someone can do things differently.
football coaching has moved from this style of coaching. it's not shouting at the players anymore.
@emmy lite No he isn't. You are misinterpreting his methods and what he is actually saying.
I am a black man myself. What he is pointing out and trying to say is that the world is cruel and unforgiving. For everyone. In Amercia it's especially cruel to Black people. This "nice" white coach was taking the black kids and coddling them. Thus making them dependent on a "Nice" White man to save them. Hence why he said "you're crippling them for life" A major problem in the black community. That a nice white man will take care of them. Boone is trying to get them to understand discipline, criticism and pressure. In order to take it and rise above and perform at the best of their ability. Whether it be football or in society.
Coach Boone is the complete opposite of cruel. He is a Drill Sergeant teaching soldiers how to go to war and being able to execute under extreme pressure.
Black people don't need a nice white man. We need a strong black man to guide us with strength and tough love because that's our reality living in a cruel world.
@emmy lite Right, you offer no counter point and just double down on your opinion without consideration of other points of view. Even say "period/end of story" Ironically that makes you the Authoritarian because you think your own view is the correct one and dismiss all points to the contrary without room for discussion. Congratulations you played yourself and are the very thing you accuse Coach Boon of.
You have no clue what Authoritarianism is. Take a study into Nazi Germany and Fascist Mussolini. Rather than trying to attack a fellow black man for trying to teach and coach toughness in a football context. Notice how you neglect his more compassionate elements when Congratulationing his players for making it into college when before hand he asked him to bring him his grades to help him be eligible. Which would yield benefits as they grew into society. In no way is he comparable to actual Authoritarians Fascists like Mussolini. I bet you think Jesus is white too 🤣.
@emmy lite he wasn’t being cruel for cruelty’s sake. It’s about building tough skin. Same goes for people who get bullied. Sometimes you just gotta man up and face it instead of crying every time it happens.
I wish this movie was still shown to kids. The ultimate message of it is that brotherhood knows no race. My high school football team watched it every year during two a days and our coaches would always tell us after the movie was over to look around the room. Look around the room and I don't want you to look at a white kid, a black kid, Asian, Mexican or whatever, you look around the room and you realize that you're looking at your family. Then the O-line coach would tell us that we'd forge bonds in the trenches that will last a life time. Damn if he wasn't right. I'm 27 and my best friends are still my brother's from the field. That was such a good message to nail into the heads of a bunch of teenagers and having that bond with the others guys made us not just a better team, but better people.
Equality is what Denzel wanted but also wanted them to be prepped for the world
Denzel is a man of profound wisdom..he is teaching these young men of every color to be fighters in life not victims..if you dont want people victimized dont teach them how to be victims...if lessons of discipline and wisdom are needed by young white boys, Israeli boys, Greek boys etc... as guided by the bible in the parenting guide, why would young boys of other ethnicities not equally need those same lessons applied by the parents to make sure their kids turn out alright. of course they need the same wisdom, this concept predates America itself and goes all the way back to ancient times in countries all over the planet.
children know nothing about how to go through life when they come out of the womb, and that fact is never going to change. they need teacher and parents to show them how to live and that is precisely what Denzel is doing here.
Moral young people: don't make excuses and listen to what this man has to say.
I loved this scene. He educated him. They don't live in the same world with the same ability to just be. Their seen as men before they hit puberty. They are seen as a threat by the most ignorant in the society. The most brains washed within the matrix. The conditioning men in their community give them is a buffer against a hard lesson they would otherwise learn.
This scene has definitely stuck with me my whole life. I swear Denzel so good sometimes I feel like it’s my Dad spitting game to me.
Alot of people NEED to understand this portion of the movie and the world
This scene is powerful because it applies to life in general
Even in just a 1 minute scene you can see how great of an actor Denzel is
1 minute? More like 10 seconds! Denzel is just a phenomenal actor
This is like two ideologies which both mean good for the target group but have different approaches...
We often struggle between the two...sometimes 1 is right, sometimes the other and often times a balance between both.
Well, we all have to make these choices if we want something good to be done
You ain't doin' these kids a favor by patronizing them. You crippling them; You crippling them for life
I honestly never saw what Coach Yoast did wrong. He simply saw a player being yelled at and belittled constantly and realized that he could rebuild the player’s confidence and have him help out on defense. Yeah u can be a hardass to some people but sometimes guys need some one to put their arm around them and provide positive encouragement.
Like he said you cannot baby them sure they're going to get yelled at but they must learn from that experience
The point was he yelled the same way to white boys and the coach did nothing.. how does he know the white players don’t respond to getting theyre hand held? Because they were a championship team. He was simply telling them treat them the same; nothing more nothing less
@@buckfidencoincidencetheori7200 Besides that, and I really don't think the treating them the same was the main point, he was telling Yoast that the black players do not exist in Yoast's bubble, and they will have to face real "Big, Bad Boones" out there, that he was setting them up for failure...
@@siliziwencanywa1138exactly and the black kids may run into a anti-Yoast. Then what.
To me, this was the best scene in the entire movie. It’s clearly what young black males face. Way too much coddling. There there it’s not your fault. It’s his fault or their fault. Victim mentality.
Magic Johnson had an anti-Yoast. Total r acist security guard. Told Earvin you black kids are all the same. Will never amount to anything. Magic’s dad always brought his kids up to ignore that stuff and do your best and hard work pays off.
When Magic signed his contract with the Lakers as a rookie he returned to his HS with his brand new Mercedes and he smiled at the security guard and said well I guess I didn’t amount to much of anything. Magic said the security guard turned a nice shade of red.
Too many black kids lack fathers. They don’t have good examples to follow. Black fathers need to take more responsibility for their kids.
Yoast babied Petey and later on in the film Petey quit on him when it mattered the most. Remember the state semi final game when the refs had been influenced to purposely make bad calls against the Titans?
Man I was a little ass snot-nosed kid when I first saw this movie. Never really grasped the meaning of what Boone was trying to convey here until many years later. Now I see how right he was. Coddling black folk like they're victims does nothing but hold the community back (they learn nothing from it). Yost got the message, which is why he declined to play Petey in the (state) title game, after the latter threw a fit in the game prior. Powerful scene, one that I think many of us that don't pander to leftist ideology can appreciate.
Man, I’m glad somebody “got it”... after reading G Sici’s posts I was starting to wonder.
Exactly. I’d like to emphasize your sentence which is what people need to understand. “Coddling black folk like they’re victims does nothing but hold the community back.”
@@zippyddudah G Sici don’t have a clue what the hell he’s talking about...
@@mareeyo1 The bigotry of low expectations.
They are both right. A great coach treata everyone equally, but they also known everyone is different.
Need this in America today
Every School should Require this Movie to be watched!
The beautiful thing about this scene is the follow on effect it has in Coach Yoast
Man if only this could get played on repeat for the whole country to see it again
I would've had Yoast at least answer, "Boone, a wise man once told me 'When a good opportunity knocks, for God's sakes man, answer the damn door!'"
both had some very valid points. If I were Yoast, I probably would have done the same thing and put Petey on defense because he seemed like a better fit there than as a running back.
but Boone is right about coddling and sensitivity.
As Boone said, coddling will do no good. As Yoast said, don't be too harsh with criticisms and just say what you need to say without being overly critical
Rest easy Coach Boone🙌🏽💯
And coach yoast🙌🏾 💯
This should be shown at every public university
they wouldnt understand , so don't bother
Why?
I watched it a number of times when I was in school.
@@dolphinsneu OP is probably referring to the woke shit on college campuses.
Denzel just get's higher and higher in my estimation as time goes on - as an actor and as a man.
As great as Denzel is, Will Patton always delivers.
He speaking facts, it ain’t gonna be getting any easier emotion wise at that point. Sounds like the right thing to do, but softening a player up won’t do a dam thing later.
The relevance of this scene man… this applies to all young men of today
i will point out that Coach Berteir is actually right in this scene, even if Denzel Washington is making a good point. Coach Berteir never just insults the player or drags out the point.
Does anyone else find this scene to be all the more relevant today? The treatment of every and all minorities as if they’re victims. “You’re crippling them for life”
To be fair, Yoast ended up being right. He knew that the defense needed extra speed and Alan didn't have that, but Petey did. While Boone saw it as overstepping his bounds, Yoast saw it as adjusting his personnel to fit what was needed at the time. Knock him all you want, but he was right in the end.
SuperSparrow45 but boone made his point well
Alan was definitely a defensive liability
SuperSparrow45 yeah I agree, I thought I was the only one
Nah, he didn't put Petey in the game out of need; he did it because he felt sorry for him. But Boone was right. For him to do this for a black player when Boone was tough on all of the players, black and white, was patronizing. Yoast even realized this himself and that was why he suspended Petey from playing in the championship game for insubordination.
It served both purposes Jim. Alan couldn't cover his man because the guy was too fast for him. Alan was a good player but that guy was too much for him so Yost needed someone who could cover him and Petey was available so he used him. Now did he feel sorry for him after Boone chewed him out again, obviously he did and you could argue he put him in to rebuild his confidence but he did put him in for a football related reason and not just because he felt sorry for him.
The worst you can ever do is quit. Petey wanted to quit because of how hard Boone was being on him. And then you see towards the end of how Yoast wasn’t the soft nice guy anymore. So Boone really got to him. Teach them how to stand on their own two feet or else stay down forever. And that’s no place you want to be.
Good GOD, is this ever a lesson for TODAY!
Boone predicted something like this.....now its an actual regular problem...lack of discipline....is a serious issue
I don't like football but I love how he is the same mean cuss with everyone alike.
Aight, that's it. I need to re-watch this damn movie.
Never forgot this scene. Alot of people could learn from it
If only we had more teachers and coaches like coach Boone today
Coach Boone might of been a hard ass but he was right today’s kids don’t want the had truth they want a pat on the back and someone to hold their hand
Don't blame the kids, sounds like you want to touch them way more.
That's if they aren't taught to accept the truth. Parents are responsible for raising their kids correctly.
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They have good reason, and a right to be angry about the world that's been left to them. Their parents and grandparents destroyed the most vibrant economy in history, created the single-greatest instance of income inequality, eliminated vast swaths of the path to enrichment and achievement, and saddled them with debts no one should ever be forced to endure. They literally have no future, because the previous generations decided it was better to give Bezos, Gates, and Sam Walton's heirs so many tax breaks that they can't begin to spend it all, than it was to fix the infrastructure, provide for security, and encourage growth and prosperity for everyone. Damn right they don't want the "hard truth" you think they deserve. They just want the same breaks their parents and grandparents had, and those were taken away.
@@lancer525 These idiots are never gonna gain any self-awareness.
I’ve never seen this scene but I’ve seen this movie over a dozen times
Love this movie and this scene. Both coaches are right and wrong. Not every kid can be coached the same but at the same time kids should not get special treatment. Some kids need tough love and others need support. It's not wrong to me to coach a kid based on their individual needs. This movie is a classic and both actors did great.
Love this movie
Im posting this on channels as of tofay. Seen this movie front to back like 50 times. Even in high school years ago. You would be suprised at what topics the past covered yesterday that are still relevant today. Remember the Titans everyone needs to watch breath and bleed this movie.
Top 10 movie of all time
A lesson for a segment of the "tolerant" white community. Tolerance is one thing, but it is JUST to hold black and white to the same standards of moral, intellectual and civic behavior. Anything else is injustice. We are not doing well in this area as a culture. The last bastion of racism in this nation will be the quiet bigotry of soft expectations.
Minorities need to be expected to stand on their own merits, to neither be unnecessarily denigrated nor excessively patronized, if the problem of race in this country is ever going to end.
Kindness is one thing. But if you are kind to someone because you think they are inferior to you, then -- as Boone says -- you are patronizing them. It's "soft bigotry" because even though your intentions are good, you're helping that person because you think they are inferior, and feeling that someone from another race is inferior to you is essentially what racism is about.
As shown at the end of this scene, Yoast even realizes this, which is why at the end of the movie during the championship game, he disallows Petey's request to play as punishment for Petey's insubordination during the previous game.
Malcolm X was talking about the facade of the white liberal over 50 years ago. This is nothing new.
Perfect example of well intentions having a negative affect.
This is my favorite movie ever!!
this movie is amazing, i cry everytime
This movie needs to be shown to kids these days, shit and a lot of adults too.
Boone: black conservative
Yoast: white liberal
Not even close. The conservatives would have put all the white kids in.
wrong again kido. try the democrats would have.
@@macmac3374 It's not the 1800's anymore old man.
@@DaInvisibleNinja 😂😂😂 wow so you are a racist and only play the black kids huh? I say what Coach Boone(RIP) said, "the best players will play, color won't matter". And he did just that.
@TMWSITY Who enslaved the blacks? Democrats. Who represented poor whites and "liberal" policies during the 20th century? Democrats. Which president first sent in the National Guard to help young black kids integrate into a school in Arkansas? Eisenhower, a republican (and the last good one). Who schemed to pass civil rights bill just because they wanted to control the black vote once they allowed black people to be able to vote? Lyndon B. Johnson, a Democrat. Lyndon B. Johnson said, and I quote: "I'll have those n-words voting Democrat for the next 200 years." The democrats knew that civil rights were inevitable. They knew the blacks hated the democrats because all the slave owners and their families were democrats. They knew that once civil rights passed, that southern blacks would vote against them. So, they made one of the smartest moves in political history: they passed the civil rights while they had control of the White House so they could keep control over the southern black vote and not lose a tremendous amount of power. Those racist rich white southerners were brilliant. Guess who else was a rich white southerner? Bill Clinton. Are the republican conservatives racist? Sure. But don't be a naive fool and think for a second that the Democrats are not just as much and more.
Love the lesson that this scene is teaching, EVERYONE on the team needs to benefit from the experience, not just the caucsian kids.
Say it loader!!! They don't need to be treated extra special to know they're equally important!!
you think a cow from brazil and a cow from boston have the same price
These words are more relevant today then ever before…
Classic scene.
Head coach is 100% accurate the world doesn’t how sensitive you are .
This scene has so many applications.
That's football. No special treatment on the field. you gotta pay your dues, as is life.
How can I clip this? The last 47 seconds for education purposes?
love that he refers to the QB as Sunshine. It was a name that was an insult, but even the coach calls him that now.
Why didn’t he win an oscar for this role ?
two different schools of thought. which is why they were so great.
Easily the best scene in this movie & he called him straight out & he knew it
So profound in touch black men and women understand this scene.
And this folks is why so many people today are sensitive af.
Wow this was incredible
I always thought this was an interesting sup plot. Star running back that couldn't handle the pressure. Then gets put in at safety and does great until hes under pressure and gives up. I am not totally against what Boone did and said but I think a middle ground could work too. Yoast put him back on the field and he hadn't changed so in the long run that didn't do anything. Either he needed to sit out the year and come back next season or earn his spot is my opinion is a middle ground and learning experience. Just giving him a position on the team we learned wasn't the right choice.
There is a measure of nuance in this scene that doesn’t get much attention in a movie filled with so many inspiring parts. And that is the fact that at times our understanding of race and our response to it should not come from our own points of view about it, but from the understanding of the other. The other is more important, the other is the part that is missing from our view of the situation, this is why there is so much frustration between two sides.
FYI, Boone got fired a few years later because he was too much of a hard ass on his players. That approach doesn't work forever.
Holy hell but that is a good lesson that seems to have been forgotten in our modern, safe spaces are needed, victimhood seeking, social media driven, cancel culture.
The Black Conservative vs. The White liberal. Open your eyes and learn from this scene.
This is a conversation that white folks in 2021 STILL don't understand. My son's kindergarten teacher babied him. Let so much slide. My son is sweet (never disrespectful) but he still failed to show that he was ready to pass kindergarten. She passed him (even though he wasn't ready) and he struggled so much in 1st grade. He cried every day. Homework felt like I was trying to teach him calculus. His dad and I decided to move him back to kindergarten and since that day he has been so much more confident. He's going to 3rd grade now and is one of the top two students in his class in reading and math. -----point of my story is, some white folks see black kids and pity/baby them (as if they need to be saved) instead of preparing them for life with tough love like they do white kids.
Wasn't moving him bac to kindergarten codding him? Why didn't you scream at him and tell him to eave the house if he wasn't successful?
You over cooking my grits coach
This is the problem today. parents coddling their kids in the "everybody gets a trophy" generation. These uber-entitled kids will grow up and not know how to take the slightest rejection. let alone the slap in the face the world will deliver them over and over again.
Bullshit.
Amen
@@tommytimp It is the truth. Cuddle them and they will suffer for life
True because you can’t run to mom and dad forever one day they’re not gonna be there so you gotta stand on your own
Completely agree,you win some you lose some but you live to play another day
This was a powerful scene of the movie, and one that every bleeding heart liberal white person should see. Yoast's intentions were good, but what Boone makes him realize is that by showing special attention to a black player Yoast was indeed being patronizing. Yoast didn't realize that he was only helping a black player because he thought that Petey wasn't strong enough to endure Boone's harsh treatment. Bottom line: Yoast thought that black kids were inferior to white kids.
I thought Yoast just figured that black people endure enough public criticism & humiliation as it were & just wanted to give them a little boost
This is precisely the problem we're facing today....and why there's so much problems in the black community and the rest of America. We have a whole generation that is used to being coddled, people are being taught to depend on others rather than depending on themselves or seeking self-improvement.
So powerful 👍✝️
Denzel just summed up the problem with welfare.
SO profound!!!
We don't need to be pampered or victimized but we want to be.
Speak for yourself 😂. Boone also makes the point of rewarding and punishing people equally
I never understood how a high school could afford full time football coaches? I had over 1,500 in my graduating class and our football coach taught math. How does a small town program employ full time coaches?
My guess is different schools have different budgets and decide how and where to allocate that budget. Some schools might make sports a higher priority whereas one like yours would spend more on other things.
I love this seen man‼️
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No he doesn't
Attitude reflect leadership...Cap'n
Acting level was all time high in this movie. How can a american football movie make so much people cry.
Boone was fired a few years after this season for basically being mean
This should be said now. They wouldn't put this into a movie now.
Yost was RIGHT on this one
Where the hell does 10 years go so damn quick
I love the scene because he really didn't notice it
And that's what happens to this day
I need this movie